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Speaker 1: by Wingstop. Where Flavor gets its wings. Thank you, Um, fellas,
Speaker 1: you can join us name, Yeah, glad, you can join
Speaker 1: us name. You were outside holding court, you had ever
Speaker 1: saying Bill Jones, And you know, I said some things
Speaker 1: and I don't think them fellas agree with me. You
Speaker 1: know about our quarterback. And that's all funny, that's all great.
Speaker 1: And I believe that everybody has their opinion. And you
Speaker 1: know I got and I asked over and over and over,
Speaker 1: how do we fix that. We have to fix that.
Speaker 1: That is our quarterback. And they say, get better players
Speaker 1: around him. Yeah, okay, you're you're You're not. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna always be situated with the best players you I
Speaker 1: don't care. In this world of athletic sports that's been
Speaker 1: played on the highest level, you're not as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You're not as the star guard of a basketball team.
Speaker 1: You're not as a scorer or assist man in soccer.
Speaker 1: Gonna always have the best talent. But through coaching, through
Speaker 1: your organization, through put in players in place to understand
Speaker 1: who they are and what they're supposed to do, you
Speaker 1: can go far. I've seen it happen time and time again.
Speaker 1: Now when you say go far, because this is an
Speaker 1: interesting conversation, and I like this conversation. This is a
Speaker 1: really good conversation because when you say go far, what
Speaker 1: is that? What does the ending destination look like? Because
Speaker 1: coming into this season, your not say your prediction, but
Speaker 1: your level of what this season would be for success,
Speaker 1: I am always will I will die on this hill
Speaker 1: by myself, and I have no problem doing it. The
Speaker 1: season is always a failure. The season is always a failure.
Speaker 1: If you don't bring home the trophy. I will live
Speaker 1: on that. I will die on that hill by myself. Now,
Speaker 1: there are lessons that are learned in failure, so you
Speaker 1: can extract some good things from failure. But failure, nonetheless,
Speaker 1: that is the goal that you set out for this season.
Speaker 1: Now only did you set out for that to be
Speaker 1: your goal? Relatively speaking, you were well within your reach
Speaker 1: of getting to that goal. It wasn't as if you
Speaker 1: were outmatched, you were out like. It wasn't you. There
Speaker 1: was not some large level of discrepancy or some long
Speaker 1: some large level of talent gap between you and the
Speaker 1: team that you were actually facing to get to the goal.
Speaker 1: So I asked you again, Nate, when you talk about
Speaker 1: can go far with what you have in your mind,
Speaker 1: because I have a different I haven't thinking that. I
Speaker 1: want to ask you that in your mind, where does
Speaker 1: that location end? See? First of all, depending on what
Speaker 1: team you're talking about, we're talking about the Dallas Cowboys. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: If you're talking about the Dallas Cowboys, yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: show Dallas cow you're talking about the Dallas Cowboys. You
Speaker 1: first of all, And I'm saying talking to fans on
Speaker 1: a realistic basis. If you're talking super Bowl, well you seven.
Speaker 1: I guess you can make of anything as you go,
Speaker 1: because I did not see this team as a super
Speaker 1: Bowl team. But I saw it as a team that
Speaker 1: they can get to the second round and if the
Speaker 1: chips fall right, they can get maybe to the championship game,
Speaker 1: but no farther. Because number one, we still have a
Speaker 1: few pieces missing on the offense, and that was the
Speaker 1: continuity of the offensive line, which showed up in the
Speaker 1: second half of this game. Where was our quarterback? Where
Speaker 1: he was gonna be at this at this point in time,
Speaker 1: was cdee Lamb once we actually knew that he was
Speaker 1: the guy that they were gonna be trying? How was
Speaker 1: his growth period? Now? The tight end I was never
Speaker 1: happy of it never happy with I was never happy
Speaker 1: with the tight end, but I liked it. Our running
Speaker 1: back situation. You asked me at getting of the year,
Speaker 1: is just a Super Bowl winning defense where they played
Speaker 1: lights out. They in the biggest of games. They kind
Speaker 1: of they kind of showed up and this was a
Speaker 1: big game that just passed. But if if Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: and that's why not, next year, my expectations will be different.
Speaker 1: You got a better offensive line by maturity, you gotta see.
Speaker 1: You got Michael Gallop back. Uh Ferguson would have been
Speaker 1: a grown another year. Then you got the other kid
Speaker 1: that pulled a hamstring behind him and the shot. So
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a different deal. I'm looking at I'm
Speaker 1: looking at a different set of athletes. And them said, now,
Speaker 1: the only thing that scares me is the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: gonna gonna leave. But if if you telling me that
Speaker 1: the reason we didn't get far as because we didn't
Speaker 1: have enough offensive talent, that don't add up to me.
Speaker 1: So that that don't add up to me, because you
Speaker 1: can't talk Super Bowl, you can't talk NFC Championship game
Speaker 1: if you if you don't if you don't have a talent,
Speaker 1: let me let me interject, I'm gonna get We're gonna
Speaker 1: get you into the conversation, Kurt. When I look at
Speaker 1: just the four teams that are in the game right now, Philly,
Speaker 1: since Kansas City and the nine Ers, and this is
Speaker 1: this is not me disagreeing with you. It's not me
Speaker 1: agreeing with you. This is us having an open discussion
Speaker 1: about the situation. That's that is. Philadelphia said, we saw
Speaker 1: what Jalen Hurstborg would last year. Cool, no problem, Hey,
Speaker 1: uh go get a J. Brown. Let's let's go get us.
Speaker 1: Let's go trade for see, because we drafted a bunch
Speaker 1: of these guys and it didn't it didn't quite work. Okay,
Speaker 1: w got a J. Brown, went got guys defensively in
Speaker 1: the draft. Said we're gonna, We're gon We're gonna put
Speaker 1: this thing together. We see what we need to fix,
Speaker 1: see what we need to fix the sevens forty nine
Speaker 1: us right, They said, Okay, well we got Deebo, we
Speaker 1: got Brendon and I yuk. We got some things happening
Speaker 1: to defensively, but there's a go get Christian McCaffrey. We're
Speaker 1: gonna trade to go get Christian McCaffrey. We need that
Speaker 1: dynamic player. We drafted George Kiltle, and we drafted Deebo Samuels,
Speaker 1: and we got some things there, but we're gonna go
Speaker 1: get I need that piece. They went and got another piece,
Speaker 1: right Kansas City says, well, we're gonna let Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: go see you. But we believe in our dynamics so
Speaker 1: good in our quarterback in the play calling. They just said,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll get you Smith Schuster, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a bunch of company four three guys. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get Cadarius Tony. We're gonna get a bunch of four
Speaker 1: three running guys. And we feel like what we do
Speaker 1: we can plug and play a lot of these guys.
Speaker 1: So they went got some talented pieces. They went and
Speaker 1: drafted Procheco out a Rutger. They went and got some
Speaker 1: other running back, Ronald Jones. I mean they went and
Speaker 1: got pieces to go around Travis Kelsey in company. And then,
Speaker 1: last but not least, the Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati Bengals spent
Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars on the restructure. In their
Speaker 1: offer to line, say what you want about how that
Speaker 1: happens and how that stuff goes but most people Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: they went and got Tom Brady when they wanted to
Speaker 1: upgrade their town. We saw what the RAM did. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I am not on the defense of
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, but I do think there is something to
Speaker 1: be said in today's NFL where if you're going to
Speaker 1: truly compete, And this goes back to was kind of
Speaker 1: almost an indictment on Jerry Jones Coop who came on
Speaker 1: our Flactive station probably a year ago in the office
Speaker 1: and it said I would pay you would be embarrassed
Speaker 1: and mint I would pay for to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And all he did with this team was make this
Speaker 1: team less than by letting Themari Cooper go and not
Speaker 1: signing any free agents of significance when you had guys
Speaker 1: who you could have signed, Jarvis Landry and not Ti.
Speaker 1: I'm times saying those guys would have been a huge impact.
Speaker 1: But there were players that were out there before we
Speaker 1: got to the nitty gritty of the season that we
Speaker 1: could have signed that could have helped us. But we
Speaker 1: pitched all in on this Odell Beckham thing that I
Speaker 1: knew what never happened, and then we settled for a
Speaker 1: guy like t Y Hilton. You gambled on Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: coming back off of ACL injury when history says, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to your boy yesterday moves Johnston. History says, unless
Speaker 1: you're Adrian Peterson, you need about a full year to
Speaker 1: come back from an ACL injury. You dropped the jail
Speaker 1: Toba in the third round. Who did not pan out
Speaker 1: for you? Dennis Houston, who everybody rapped about in training camp,
Speaker 1: did not work out for you. James Washington, who you
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna bring in was gonna be a case,
Speaker 1: did not work out for you. So I'm saying, yes,
Speaker 1: you bring some pieces in, but you didn't bring any
Speaker 1: pieces in of significance, and you gambled on your quarterback
Speaker 1: being able to get you over the case when he's
Speaker 1: not the guy that we talked about, saying, I hear
Speaker 1: what you're saying. So and my question I opposed to everybody,
Speaker 1: and I posed it to those two guys on the
Speaker 1: last show mix shots. So what you're saying is you
Speaker 1: gotta go out without a doubt, expecially if you're saying
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you gotta go out without a doubt. And
Speaker 1: you gotta either in free agency are through the draft,
Speaker 1: get a ready yes, sure file, Yes, wide receiver, Yes
Speaker 1: are tight end yes, Okay, because one thing, one thing
Speaker 1: that's gonna be even more is he got forty nine
Speaker 1: million dollars coming next year. So if you don't go
Speaker 1: out and get this sure fight deal, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: more of the same. Absolutely, if I'm reading you right,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that a lot of people, and I'm
Speaker 1: probably following this too, it are saying that Dak is
Speaker 1: what he is and they got to raise up the
Speaker 1: team around him. But it sounds like you're saying Dak
Speaker 1: can still improve. Yes you can. You think so he
Speaker 1: can want him too, or you think he can't still
Speaker 1: reach that level. No, I've always said this right here
Speaker 1: from day one, and I'll walk you through it. When
Speaker 1: he first got here and he was throwing the ball
Speaker 1: on the field, I heard a lot of players say,
Speaker 1: it's something to this kid. So when Tony got hurt,
Speaker 1: the first guy was saying, hey, you knew Ddy just
Speaker 1: played this young guy, and let's see what happened. Then
Speaker 1: he came out and he protected the ball. Now, whether
Speaker 1: that was through scheme or whether he was just had
Speaker 1: a natural ability to protect the ball, he did that
Speaker 1: for us first two years. Then they came with this
Speaker 1: wide receiver by committee. And the first thing I said
Speaker 1: was two things I said was you know what, they
Speaker 1: gotta get this kids some talent, because if you give
Speaker 1: him talent, he's gonna do what's necessary. And I saw
Speaker 1: right he digested. But with that, how long will it
Speaker 1: be before he can put us in the best play?
Speaker 1: So I asked that for a couple of years. Now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden will I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: in these last and a half years where now? Uh,
Speaker 1: the aggressive the aggressive passive whatever, whatever it is, the
Speaker 1: arrogant passing. Okay, this is what you better understand. And
Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, this is what it is.
Speaker 1: When your quarterback counts for more than a third of
Speaker 1: your salary cap he better be that. He better not,
Speaker 1: you guess, and you hope he better be that, because
Speaker 1: who can you sig? And And this is this is
Speaker 1: why having success in those early windows, the Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: window right uh, the the I mean the Niners are
Speaker 1: having success right now Mahome's windows. I mean they had
Speaker 1: in those windows because window, because you're going to jo
Speaker 1: Jayla Hurst window. Ye, you're able to spend no dollars
Speaker 1: because your star quarterback is not eating up so much
Speaker 1: of your salary cap. The problem is, and this is
Speaker 1: why I talk about and people about windows closing, because
Speaker 1: when you get to that point, yes, when you gotta
Speaker 1: pay the guy's money, and if he's going to be
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback, forty million is no longer even that,
Speaker 1: ain't You ain't knocking on forty million dollars no more
Speaker 1: the numbers about yesterday's price. It's not today's price. It's
Speaker 1: going up. You lose the ability to now have that,
Speaker 1: to have the flexibility of signing so many different guys
Speaker 1: in talent. So yes to your point, when your quarterback
Speaker 1: begins to have that type of uh, eating up that
Speaker 1: type of salary, you you better hope he is who
Speaker 1: you hope he is. You can. If not, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be facing this situation that we're sitting in right now.
Speaker 1: Because let let no bones about it, no bones about it.
Speaker 1: That is not in the conversation. And I and I've
Speaker 1: I've still on that for many years. This is this
Speaker 1: and like I tell people, if you're not gonna gonna
Speaker 1: help him by number one, going out getting these players
Speaker 1: y'all talking about are having a ear. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's Kellen Mark with a stronger r. I don't
Speaker 1: care if it's a quarterback coach with a stronger earror
Speaker 1: to help him through this right here, because six games
Speaker 1: where you have double double interceptions, you have eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten games where you have at least one interception. No,
Speaker 1: you have to help this kid now. You either help
Speaker 1: him about sitting him down, breaking this down, going through it,
Speaker 1: and making sure that all of these lesser talented people
Speaker 1: all of a sudden that and and if we're all here, please,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about how good and wide
Speaker 1: receiver is, how this guy is, and how that guy is.
Speaker 1: Like we talked that coming into not you, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking to majority of the people, how good this guy
Speaker 1: is and how good that guy is, and how good
Speaker 1: Now we get to the end of the year and
Speaker 1: this thing explode on us and now as we need talent. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going for that, right. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me that, bro, You can't. I know, I know
Speaker 1: sports is fluent, but I ain't a fool there. Then
Speaker 1: there are certain reasons why I personally don't listen to
Speaker 1: what everyone has to say about sometimes wow, because I
Speaker 1: just know people just don't all the time know how
Speaker 1: to evaluate players or what they're even actually looking for.
Speaker 1: But until Dak Prescott's point, when you get to that
Speaker 1: level year seven, you get the big money, and I
Speaker 1: don't care what anyone says. They listen, they hear that
Speaker 1: hears that listens, he hears what the show says, he's
Speaker 1: hears what how he's not in that category? Got enough
Speaker 1: ears to hear. Yeah, And if and if he ain't
Speaker 1: hearing it, it's enough folks in this circle that's bringing
Speaker 1: it back to him, bringing it right back to the
Speaker 1: dinner table, right, and he hears you're not in that category.
Speaker 1: You're not in the category of the Boroughs, the Mahomes,
Speaker 1: the Allens, that category. You're not in that Aaron Rodgers category.
Speaker 1: And so what sometimes happens, sometimes consciously sometimes unconscious sleep,
Speaker 1: you beginning to say to yourself, in order to be
Speaker 1: in that conversation, I have to play a certain way.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a lot of it led to that,
Speaker 1: And he said it to himself like sometimes I was
Speaker 1: just getting a little bit too aggress to trying to
Speaker 1: get everything back in throwing the ball because you started
Speaker 1: wanting to be in the conversation of those other guys.
Speaker 1: This is a great conversation. This is a great conversation.
Speaker 1: This is a fantastic conversation. Let's go to break, Let's
Speaker 1: get a let's get a drinking water. Stop, let's regroup.
Speaker 1: You're not getting food. This is not the food. No,
Speaker 1: this is hanging with the boys. Yeah, this ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get the real So let's take us go to break,
Speaker 1: let's come back, Let's continue this conversation. Kurt, we want
Speaker 1: you in this conversation. We want you, We want your
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Speaker 1: we continue to have a very very amazing discussion that
Speaker 1: started out in the hallway with Naton and a couple
Speaker 1: of others, and I'm glad that he opened up and
Speaker 1: brought it in here to us because the conversation is
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys on if this
Speaker 1: quarterback needs more talent? Is it coaching? Is it talent?
Speaker 1: Or is he not living up to being the franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: Is being one of the top ten twelve quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the National Football League, Kurt, I want to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts in here on this is the quarterback that is
Speaker 1: thekla Raine Prescott. Is this one of the guys who said,
Speaker 1: you know what he does need more talent, or even
Speaker 1: when he had talent on the football team, when he
Speaker 1: had you know, an all Pro receiver and a'm Aar
Speaker 1: Cooper and an upcoming guy a Cede Lamb and a
Speaker 1: good offensive line in the running game and all these
Speaker 1: other things that he's had before, and it still kind
Speaker 1: of came up a little bit short in the end goal.
Speaker 1: I think Dak is a top ten quarterback in this league.
Speaker 1: I mean, he may even be outside of the top
Speaker 1: five among quarterbacks, but he just has he not reached
Speaker 1: that level yet. The Mahomes, the Bradies, the Rogers, he
Speaker 1: hasn't reached that level yet where he can carry the
Speaker 1: talent around him, I don't think. And so to Nate's point, Well,
Speaker 1: my belief then is you've got to find a way
Speaker 1: like we saw San Francisco do. Like you mentioned, we
Speaker 1: saw the Eagles. Dude, like he said, Cowboys haven't really
Speaker 1: done that for him. They talked about making it DAC friendly,
Speaker 1: but how much have they really sold out to do that?
Speaker 1: And so how are you going to You can restructure
Speaker 1: his trying contract, you can finagle things around him, maybe
Speaker 1: bring some more talent in. But to Nate's point, you're
Speaker 1: saying Dak himself has to get better. How do you
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, he's twenty thirty, gonna be thirty
Speaker 1: years old, he's played seven seasons. How do you change
Speaker 1: him and make him? Help him reach that next level
Speaker 1: with the talent he has? Now, I guess this is
Speaker 1: what I ask people. This is what I ask people.
Speaker 1: You know we this is this is why. Now you see,
Speaker 1: this is what I tell people. The homernd I can
Speaker 1: come up here and raw ra folks to death. I
Speaker 1: can give you a million reasons of fantasy. But when
Speaker 1: I'm talking real people, I'm talking from a super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning standpoint. Hold hold hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on.
Speaker 1: I love when they get sassy. Hold on, let me go,
Speaker 1: Broyeah No no, no, no, I need I need to go. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is this is what's so amazing. All you're coming
Speaker 1: from from a from a super Bowl. I've seen how
Speaker 1: three I've seen how I've seen how a team has
Speaker 1: been built. Okay, Troy Aikman would have decent years, but
Speaker 1: go back and check your records. When we got in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Troy played well. He understood his importance and
Speaker 1: how to raise up. Now you know they don't have
Speaker 1: the talent we had, and so I'm not going there
Speaker 1: with you. But I would go to a young Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: I would go to a young and now now we
Speaker 1: ain't talking about seven super Bowls, lady, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: a young Tom Brady when his coaches coached him, when
Speaker 1: he threw an interception when he came to the sideline
Speaker 1: and they talked about it. Back then, we had polar rois.
Speaker 1: When you're in there, slide them all the way down
Speaker 1: from the box on a wire, and then you look
Speaker 1: at the polar rois and the snapshots and you would
Speaker 1: see and you would learn, and you would be coached.
Speaker 1: As the game go on, you you would understand the
Speaker 1: magnitude of what just happened when you threw that first interception,
Speaker 1: and we can't have the second one. See this, This
Speaker 1: is what you cannot do. You cannot begin every year
Speaker 1: with high hopes and high expectations only to end and say, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't have the talent. Who are you talking to?
Speaker 1: Who you said? I don't understand though. What I mean,
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is this right here, You're
Speaker 1: either gonna help this kid and continue to coach him
Speaker 1: because it's Sarah cap HiT's too big for you to
Speaker 1: go out and for them to go out and get
Speaker 1: a star player. Can they afford it? Yes, I'm not
Speaker 1: spending your money, so you don't if you don't have
Speaker 1: the talent at the beginning of the year, don't we
Speaker 1: need to talk about that? Hey, don't we need like
Speaker 1: we did for defense? Like it's hand is enough? I mean, on,
Speaker 1: wasn't that big kid uh Sue out there? And won't
Speaker 1: this guy you know what I'm saying, We didn't talk
Speaker 1: about that. So because I remember you were saying that.
Speaker 1: He was saying it. We're playing for next year. He
Speaker 1: was saying it, And I've already stated it wasn't Jesse.
Speaker 1: There's people on other shows you say, don't listen to
Speaker 1: the shows, but we are only one show. Yes we
Speaker 1: leave the league and and and and and in YouTube,
Speaker 1: but you can't continue as a quarterback. As a quarterback,
Speaker 1: what you try to do during the year is you
Speaker 1: try to play well and you try to play consistent
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. When the playoffs come, you have to
Speaker 1: raise your game. Your game has to be raised by
Speaker 1: number one, by better preparation, by number two. You looking
Speaker 1: at the film and decide, Okay, when I get this, look,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do. When I get that. Look,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do. You tell your receivers,
Speaker 1: Hey man, you need to be here. I don't care
Speaker 1: how you get there. This is where you need to be.
Speaker 1: But you cannot tell me that CD Lamb was wrong
Speaker 1: for running this route and it had a dude underneath
Speaker 1: and a dude over top and you threw it to him.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me that with cdee Lamb fault. I
Speaker 1: want you to explain that, and see I will ask
Speaker 1: any man, woman, our child. Okay, if you're not gonna
Speaker 1: get the talent, don't you think you need to have
Speaker 1: somebody in here to help this kid. That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 1: So you need you're you're you gotta have one or
Speaker 1: the other. You want a new coach? I want to
Speaker 1: say somebody, yeah that can help him, because you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't have six games where you throw multiple multiple interceptions,
Speaker 1: and especially if you don't have a talent, you can't
Speaker 1: throw no interceptions. You got to almost play perfect, like
Speaker 1: like like we say, were asking our defense. We asked
Speaker 1: our defense to play perfect against the All Star teams Sunday,
Speaker 1: that's not fair. We asked our defense and they almost
Speaker 1: pitched a shout out against the team. Yeah. So my
Speaker 1: question is, and the great Randy Galloway said all the time,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to your quarterback. The four quarterbacks that are left are
Speaker 1: not making grave errors. Fellas. Now, y'all can take it
Speaker 1: how you want. And I'm talking about winning football. I
Speaker 1: think this last weekend, every team that had an interception
Speaker 1: loss and every team that didn't want so again, but
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, and a coach, those are like,
Speaker 1: how do you coach dak to not throw it to
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and he's clearly covered or you know some
Speaker 1: of these? I mean, it's you can coach. I mean
Speaker 1: you can heaven can't you. You can coach players out
Speaker 1: of becoming turnover pro And the example, Yeah, I go
Speaker 1: to it. I go to Brian day Ball. I look
Speaker 1: at what Brian day Ball did with Josh Allen and Buffalo,
Speaker 1: where he was all the talent in the world. Was
Speaker 1: just so erratic. He was just so erratic. He just
Speaker 1: it was all over the place. Right then he comes
Speaker 1: in and all of a sudden, Now there got Buffalo going.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones led the National Football League in turnovers, not interceptions,
Speaker 1: in turnovers, between interceptions and fumbling football. He was Numero
Speaker 1: uno in the National Football League. Do you know how
Speaker 1: many interceptions he had this year? Five? Nice? And he
Speaker 1: played the entire season and got a team with no talent.
Speaker 1: I mean, rich blowed this up this year, gonna blow
Speaker 1: this up. Richie James and Slayton. This was the number
Speaker 1: one guy, you know, Kenny Gallady, who's making seventy it
Speaker 1: was seventy million dollars contract. Dude didn't play. They benched him.
Speaker 1: It was Richie James, it was Slayton there with some
Speaker 1: guys we didn't know, right, Five interceptions, five from a
Speaker 1: guy who led. The only thing that changed Brian day Ball.
Speaker 1: That was the only thing to change. The team got
Speaker 1: less talent the Friday day Ball stepped in and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that that that changed. I look at
Speaker 1: guys like Mike McDaniels, who when when when when? When
Speaker 1: Tua was in Miami, he wasn't the saying people were saying,
Speaker 1: Didue gonna out in the league in the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And unfortunately the concussions came. But before that you were
Speaker 1: talking about him being in the MVP conversation. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the last year have been the bus but this year
Speaker 1: being an NBP Cup, Sir, what changed? Yeah? Yes, he
Speaker 1: got Tyreek Hill, but got Mike m Daniels, got a
Speaker 1: coach in there that was able to take him from
Speaker 1: a place of hey, this is this is you know,
Speaker 1: I look at Matthew Stafford, all the years he had
Speaker 1: Detroit could never get in. He has some talent to teach,
Speaker 1: that has some talent the players around him, gets with
Speaker 1: a coach to understand how to utilize his talent and
Speaker 1: the talent around him. Where's the ring? What do you
Speaker 1: think about? David Moore had a story today's tell Us
Speaker 1: Morning News about maybe it's time that Dak was uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: He's been too comfortable now Kellen Moore, like, we've you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's basically saying, now, I didn't, but you
Speaker 1: know what, we came, came a former teammate. You know,
Speaker 1: they're almost peered. I think they're only like three or
Speaker 1: four years difference in age, that sort of thing. They
Speaker 1: will they won't call me and ask me either. But
Speaker 1: he almost put it, like is it McCarthy that needs
Speaker 1: to bring make him uncomfortable, whether that's him taking over
Speaker 1: and putting more pressure on him like Dab Dab or
Speaker 1: blow his name Dabel did in New York, or do
Speaker 1: they need an offensive coordinator where somebody can come in
Speaker 1: and stir the pot a little bit there. Well, what
Speaker 1: we'll do, We'll let this simmer. We'll let it simmer.
Speaker 1: Great question. When we come back from the break, we'll
Speaker 1: answer the question. Does Dak Prescott need more pressure put
Speaker 1: on him or more attention to detail from his coaching,
Speaker 1: more something to push him from his comfort zone um
Speaker 1: from the either the head coach of the office supporting
Speaker 1: that he's currently has. We'll think about that. With a break,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll have an answer for you. This
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Speaker 1: Back Hanging with the Boys. Welcome back to hanging with
Speaker 1: the How about say hanging with the show? Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Hanging with the boy. This is a tough show.
Speaker 1: It's a good show. It's a good show. This is
Speaker 1: this is one of those you gotta have those tough conversations.
Speaker 1: This is one of those shows when the tough conversations
Speaker 1: come out and you have to act to tough questions.
Speaker 1: You got to be critical. We're at that junction of
Speaker 1: the season where now we could take a step back,
Speaker 1: there's no other games that we're looking at, and you
Speaker 1: go back and you recap the season, and you have
Speaker 1: to be critical of a football team who you know
Speaker 1: lost in the division around by doing some of the
Speaker 1: same things that we've seen them do year in and
Speaker 1: year out, season in and season out, and there has
Speaker 1: been no adjustment to it, a bunch of promises, a
Speaker 1: bunch of I'll never do it again, we got another one,
Speaker 1: and a bunch of next year we'll correct it, and
Speaker 1: we find ourselves for the twenty seventh year in a
Speaker 1: row telling ourselves And that's and that's finding well with me.
Speaker 1: But the issue is the issue is, uh, you have
Speaker 1: to reach this kid somehow. Number one option, go out
Speaker 1: and over go out and spin a draft number two option.
Speaker 1: You can't. You got a coach him. And that's the
Speaker 1: question at on the table right now for Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: is this is this a kid who after finishing year seven,
Speaker 1: this is year seven for Dak Prescott, We're pasted the
Speaker 1: whole He's learned year seven you're you're, you're in, you're
Speaker 1: you are who you are, right, And so now we
Speaker 1: begin to ask the questions that ain't from necessary to true.
Speaker 1: The kid from the Seahawks is better. Okay, okay, Gino Smith,
Speaker 1: We'll go Geno Smith. Just no. It's a perfect segue.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect set because now we ask the question
Speaker 1: when you see guys like Geno Smith leave a situation
Speaker 1: that he was drafted with the New York Jets and
Speaker 1: bounced around for a little while, and then he finally
Speaker 1: got with a coach who understood his strengths, his weaknesses,
Speaker 1: his talents, and then they begin to work within the
Speaker 1: realms of that. And that is the question on the
Speaker 1: table right now in this segment of Dak Prescott. Does
Speaker 1: there need to be a different voice, a stronger voice.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a stronger voice, because because
Speaker 1: sometimes it's the voice that just hits home greater than you.
Speaker 1: It's I go back to the theory of when you
Speaker 1: would tell Trey right man, dude, no no no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, and he wouldn't listen, and then there was
Speaker 1: another voice who would come in and tell try to
Speaker 1: do the same exact thing. Yeah, and it hit So
Speaker 1: is this the so who is going to be the
Speaker 1: proverbial switch that we go out and pick off the
Speaker 1: tree outside in front of the off the off the tree,
Speaker 1: off the bush, and bring back in the house. That's
Speaker 1: going to correct the wrongs that's become of Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Does he need a new offensive coordinator? Can a I
Speaker 1: mean Doug Nestmeyer's contract is up and quarterbacks coach? Can
Speaker 1: he Can a new quarterbacks coach make a difference? Or
Speaker 1: does it need to come from higher up? Does it
Speaker 1: need to come from the offensive coordinator, a new offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator or McCarthy getting more easy or something? I mean,
Speaker 1: this this the group that Jerry has created. And I
Speaker 1: say Jerry because Mike McCarthy wasn't able to come in
Speaker 1: and either be the offensive coordinator or choosing offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: He had one in waiting for him. It was kind
Speaker 1: of almost, hey, this comes with the house. Okay, this
Speaker 1: this puppy comes along with this house. You want this house,
Speaker 1: You're taking this puppy. And so he's had to kind
Speaker 1: of almost deal in that of this has never been
Speaker 1: my pick. I'm really on the outside looking in because
Speaker 1: I can say what I want all week but during
Speaker 1: the games and stuff worth happening. I'm not over there
Speaker 1: with Dak. Kellen Moore's over there with Dak. No smart
Speaker 1: is over there with Dak. So there needs to be
Speaker 1: a voice that is strong enough and that, um what
Speaker 1: is it? Perverberates how you said, reverberates. Reverberates through the
Speaker 1: mind of Dak Prescott. We don't need that here, right,
Speaker 1: reverberates through the mind, body, and soul of Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: to get him to understand what it is he needs
Speaker 1: to be seen, yea, and clearly that that's whatever's being
Speaker 1: taught has fallen on deaf ears because see weekend and
Speaker 1: week out we turn things about. I'm glad we all
Speaker 1: hill understand and we're smart enough. At the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year, I think four or five games in where
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb a Dak thought Cede Lamb was gonna cross
Speaker 1: the face of the safety. Okay, we saw that, and
Speaker 1: all normal normal football heads. Okay, all right, look confusion. Now,
Speaker 1: then we saw where the ball popped up on on
Speaker 1: on eighty five. Okay, all right, mistakes happened, what's happened?
Speaker 1: But now now let me let me get this the receiver.
Speaker 1: This is why receiver. You got me, Christ you got me.
Speaker 1: Chris is on me. This is the receiver right here.
Speaker 1: Segot standing right here, segot standing right here, and you
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. He's not covered? Is he not? Is
Speaker 1: he covered? I'm asking you, quarterback? Yeah, okay, why would
Speaker 1: you through it? That's the question, isn't it? So I'm wrong?
Speaker 1: This guy he ain't good enough to get open. No,
Speaker 1: he's Cede Lamb and he ain't open. But you got
Speaker 1: Hilton over there running wide open. Now, don't don't don't
Speaker 1: do this. Let's don't make this hard. Get somebody in
Speaker 1: here to help this kid. Offensive coordinator. I don't know
Speaker 1: whether the offensive coordinator, whether it's a quarterbacks coach, whether
Speaker 1: it's a new head coach. I'm saying, if you got
Speaker 1: forty nine million dollars, you're gonna get his kid next year.
Speaker 1: Don't you think you ought to help him? Now? In
Speaker 1: the other option, it could be one A or one B.
Speaker 1: Are you go out and get that great talent. So
Speaker 1: now everybody has to do cannot cover Ceedee Lamb, double
Speaker 1: cover him. You get a better tight end where he
Speaker 1: can take up that slack. So now you do it.
Speaker 1: Either how you either way you want to do it,
Speaker 1: but we can't go through another year and at the
Speaker 1: end of the year saying we need a new coach,
Speaker 1: we need a new voice. We didn't have enough talent.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, what if come on now that that
Speaker 1: that ain't fair? What if you're forty million dollars quarterback,
Speaker 1: the guy you put all this investment in, who is
Speaker 1: you know you're building the team around, says I want
Speaker 1: the same people here I want you don't get a
Speaker 1: say you don't think you don't got to say you
Speaker 1: don't do What if you didn't have a disgruntled quarterback? Okay,
Speaker 1: well you got Denver and you got the Cardinals. But
Speaker 1: do you think he's gonna have a say in this
Speaker 1: or should he? You got why would you pay Will
Speaker 1: McClay what? See? This is the problem. You know some
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get that say because they have earned that. Say.
Speaker 1: You got to earn the right to for somebody to
Speaker 1: come say, hey, man, how do you like this guy?
Speaker 1: How do you like that guy? You know, because the
Speaker 1: money is too tight in today's sara, too tight for
Speaker 1: for a guy you like. That's that'd be my concern,
Speaker 1: though it is again and that maybe hasn't earned that
Speaker 1: right on the field, but he's gonna say, I have
Speaker 1: forty million dollars worth of rights here, and if I
Speaker 1: want Kellen Moore than you know you're gonna ask me
Speaker 1: who I want? What I think of this guy? What
Speaker 1: I think of that guy? I want Kellen Moore? What if?
Speaker 1: What if that's this case? Now? I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna ask. I think they're gonna go out if they
Speaker 1: go out and get someone. If they go out, well,
Speaker 1: but what if that fixes problems? I'm not counting the
Speaker 1: kid out. What if he fix this problem in itself?
Speaker 1: What if he go and really get into his film work,
Speaker 1: like you said, you're gonna do. What if he do
Speaker 1: fix his own problem? You know, I think, like you
Speaker 1: said earlier, that's hard to do or but yeah, the
Speaker 1: thing is, I think even that's gonna require a coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's gonna work. Like because you know, news flash,
Speaker 1: fans as as great and as talented and as amazing
Speaker 1: that we see these athletes are that we are um
Speaker 1: that Nate was and as like that was, we live
Speaker 1: to be told what to do, to be critiqued. I think,
Speaker 1: great player that you're able to take that. But everybody
Speaker 1: has a trainer, everybody has a like there's like there's
Speaker 1: not one person's out there by himself putting his workouts together.
Speaker 1: So even if that is going to sit in the
Speaker 1: film room and correct itself, there's gonna be still gonna
Speaker 1: be the need. It's still gonna be the need of someone.
Speaker 1: And I don't even like because it's human nature and
Speaker 1: we can all be critical of ourselves, even the harshes
Speaker 1: of personal critics, but there's still this thing that's in
Speaker 1: your mind that you can watch film. You can go, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a bad throw. But if I get a
Speaker 1: little bit better protection, I could probably squeeze one in there,
Speaker 1: Like you need that person sitting next to you to go, No,
Speaker 1: that's a bad throw, and you should not do that again.
Speaker 1: That's a bad throw and you shouldn't. I don't care
Speaker 1: what you think it is. It's a bad throw and
Speaker 1: you should not do it again. That's the part that
Speaker 1: you need, you you, because we're always going to find
Speaker 1: a way, you figure out a way for ourselves, even
Speaker 1: in the evaluation process of justifying some things. But again,
Speaker 1: that that is going to be needed. It's all the
Speaker 1: great ones have it, all the great ones are able
Speaker 1: to sit down with their trainers and their coaches and
Speaker 1: someone to help evaluate them from a from an unbiased perspective.
Speaker 1: And those who take on that coaching and take that
Speaker 1: that critique, that criticism are the ones who are able
Speaker 1: to evolve and be better. Those who shy away from
Speaker 1: it and don't want any parts of it, continue to
Speaker 1: do the same things over and over and over again
Speaker 1: expect any different results. They are crazy fools and it
Speaker 1: will eventually cost you a job. Yeah. So yeah, all right, fellas,
Speaker 1: who that was good fixed? Yeah? Yeah, But one thing
Speaker 1: they gonna know from this show here today, fellas, is
Speaker 1: don't play both ends of the stick. Yeah. One thing
Speaker 1: about all of our parents, the ones that stuck with
Speaker 1: us to thick and thin. Not my dad, Yeah, our parents,
Speaker 1: you have, you have grandmother, mother, somebody stuck somebody ever
Speaker 1: stuck with you, whatever, somebody stuck with you, whoever you
Speaker 1: want to make give that credit. Yeah, it came up.
Speaker 1: It comes a point where they ain't gonna let you
Speaker 1: ride in the middle. They're gonna make you make a decision.
Speaker 1: Dak Is at that point, that is, at that point
Speaker 1: you either go out and sell the house to get
Speaker 1: this kid better talent around him so they can spread
Speaker 1: everything out and keep it spread out, and pray to
Speaker 1: Gods you don't run into a dan Quinn, you know,
Speaker 1: like dfour the Niners did. And are you get somebody
Speaker 1: to help him? That the voice, whatever, whoever voice it is,
Speaker 1: that he will listen to voice, because do you want
Speaker 1: to go through another year like this? Do you want
Speaker 1: to go through another year like this? And I suggest
Speaker 1: every other show start looking at the talent in the
Speaker 1: summertime and don't give it and don't give it god
Speaker 1: like talent and to the end of the season. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, that'll do it for us. Before I want
Speaker 1: to say Happy birthday to my baby brother Joe. What's
Speaker 1: his name? Joe? What? Joe Holli? Joe Holli? How they
Speaker 1: come up with Joe? Joseph Holly? Okay, Joe's Joe. Joseph
Speaker 1: Holly is my younger brother. Today is his birthday. Hello Joseph,
Speaker 1: as well as his youngest daughter. They share the same birthday,
Speaker 1: so her name is not the same name, right, her
Speaker 1: name is Jersey. Oh Man, not gonna do that, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. Happy birthday to my niece Jersey
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to my brother Joe Joseph, Joe Joseph Joe
Speaker 1: Joe's Holly. Is that's the mayor? Is that the center? No,
Speaker 1: that's my younger brother molder brothers is a politician. Happy brother,
Speaker 1: little Happy birthday, little Bro, Happy birthday brother, Republican hang
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Speaker 1: that's your boy walk my dog usfl Yeah, Happy birthday, Bro,
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