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Speaker 2: Let's give this.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio over this song.

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Speaker 4: Jesus, really I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's just such out of the draw. It should start

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Speaker 2: right here at the punch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's probably true. But it gets there eventually,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: Just like var it's gonna get here eventually.

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Speaker 4: Today's Tuesday, right, the game was on Saturday. That doesn't

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Speaker 4: make any sense. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, it's listen, man, you know it's

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Speaker 2: it's stay called.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's difficult to get in and out of there. You

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Speaker 4: know again, I've been there. I understand the difficulties of it.

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Speaker 4: Never had a problem get to fight, never like granted

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Speaker 4: we had earlier games, but like that day that that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh so we by the way. Uh, in

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Speaker 2: case you're wondering, yes, LeVar is not here. Uh he's

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Speaker 2: still traveling back from Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: So he's on a horse and uh horse and buggy.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's Omnish out there with one of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he was like, yeah, forget this, let me

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Speaker 4: just uh, let me grab one of your wagons. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cheaper in an uber, you know, and and eventually

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Speaker 2: and by the way ESPN, you could stop showing the

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Speaker 2: Tyreek kill injury at any point, like you could just

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Speaker 2: go ahead and skip past that, like we can. We

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Speaker 2: all understand what happened. It was gruesome.

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Speaker 4: It was gross, like little eggs and bacon and let's

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Speaker 4: completely dislocated knee. No, that's not going down well with

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Speaker 4: your morning CONFA.

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Speaker 2: Also, Lurana told me during the break she had a question.

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Speaker 2: She thought that A that the injury was better than

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Speaker 2: if he had broken his leg, and I told her that, no,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot more going on.

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Speaker 3: I just thought it would take longer to actually fuse

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Speaker 3: the bone back together than it would be to put

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Speaker 3: your knee back into place and let your you know,

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, so a couple of things here. One ligaments,

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Speaker 4: not tendons, and those don't reattach on their own, so

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Speaker 4: you have to have someone surgically go in and reattach

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Speaker 4: the ligaments. So that's not like a bone where they

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Speaker 4: fuse or grow back together. I believe it takes bones,

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Speaker 4: what six weeks something like that to be able to

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Speaker 4: kind of fuse or heal back together. Uh, it will

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Speaker 4: take him easily a year to recover from this. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is a like September of twenty twenty five, maybe

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Speaker 4: the end of next season. Wow, and look, and he'll

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Speaker 4: come back before then. I'm just saying he's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be one hundred percent. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Probably it's gonna take him a while, probably ever again,

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean that's that's a given. But I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 3: You think he's played his last game as a Dolphin?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's an interesting question. He talked about retiring

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Speaker 4: you look like coming back. But I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: mean it it's hard to think that they'll be able

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Speaker 4: why would you take on that contract. He's still in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a long roadback for Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: And again, now, if you're just tuning in the news earlier,

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Speaker 2: Adam Schefter reporting not only did he dislocate his knee

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill after the gruesome injury last night, but also

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Speaker 2: could be next year done. We'll see what happens career wise.

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Speaker 2: But that's the that's the latest on the Tyreek killing ten.

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Speaker 4: He's free in twenty twenty seven, so that's that's what

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Speaker 4: But man, that is that is a tough deal. It

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Speaker 4: really is, especially considering you know, they were I felt

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins. They looked good last night. Now that I

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Speaker 4: could have been just how bad the Jets look.

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Speaker 2: But they look good yeah, and now they're going to

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Speaker 2: And and now we see whether or not they can

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Speaker 2: go on a heat or without him. But and look, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they were as you mentioned earlier, Mike McDaniel was getting

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Speaker 2: flashy night. It's like he's got the uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: You look like you could have gone directly to the club,

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Speaker 4: like from the game, went right to the club.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so you know, good for Mike McDaniel. It's

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Speaker 2: a feel good moment. He's probably thinking to himself, you

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Speaker 2: know what, if I'm gonna get canned, I'm going out

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Speaker 2: the way I want to go out. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna look good and I'm gonna have some razzle dazzle

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna do it in prime time for the

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Speaker 2: you know, for as long as I'm head coach in Miami.

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Speaker 2: The Crown is yours speaking to wide receivers. AJ Brown

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Speaker 2: took the passive aggressive approach on social media following his

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Speaker 2: lack of involvement in the Eagles win over the Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers on Sunday, and so, of course Nick Sirianni,

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Speaker 2: the head coach, was asked about it by the media yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. Is it your understanding that that

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Speaker 2: Aj still wants to be here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously Aj is very important to this football team.

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Speaker 5: I know he wants to contribute and uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: do the things that he's capable of doing. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean so it again, he wants to contribute into

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Speaker 5: games where he hasn't been able to for different reasons

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Speaker 5: of why we haven't in these games. So I question

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Speaker 5: nothing about his desire to play great football, his desire

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Speaker 2: Uh So that was Nick Sirianni talking about a J.

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Speaker 4: Who Yeah, a lot there on that one. That was

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Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of coach speak.

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Speaker 2: It's like when does the when does the passive aggressive

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Speaker 2: social media stuff ever work? Like? When does it when

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Speaker 2: does it ever, I don't that's part I don't understand

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Speaker 4: It never it's more of a way of venting or frustration.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's about trying to get a message

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Speaker 4: like that, there's enough people out there who will agree, right,

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Speaker 4: Guys who have them on the fantasy team, Guys who

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Speaker 4: just say like, yeah, I'm with you, man, Like you know,

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Speaker 4: then you gets you the ball they need to do better.

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Speaker 4: It's like all right, Like the Eagles are a team

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Speaker 4: that's trying to repeat and they'll need him at certain moments.

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Speaker 4: This past week's game, they didn't need him, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's just kind of how it worked out. They didn't

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Speaker 4: even him more Devonte Smith. But there will be times

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Speaker 4: when they need it and Jalen hurts in this passing.

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Speaker 4: This offense is showcase that it can do that. Now,

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Speaker 4: you know, with Patula taking over as their offense coordinator,

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Speaker 4: maybe that's the concern is they feel like there's a

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Speaker 4: because you know, he's an offensive mine. He's probably a

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Speaker 4: part of the game planning that might play a Porsche

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Speaker 4: or role in all of this. But that's that's how

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Speaker 4: it works with receivers in the NFL. Just you know,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a roller coaster ride. You know, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to keep him happy, man, it really is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how did you deal with it? Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how do you like if you got some guy in

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Speaker 2: your ear the entire time? Hey man, why can I

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Speaker 2: get the ball?

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Speaker 3: Hey man? Why can it?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: And you know I didn't have kids then, but it's

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Speaker 4: very similar. It's very similar to how you handle kids,

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Speaker 4: in my opinion. You know, you try to to build

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Speaker 4: them up. You're trying to make sure they still stay engaged,

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Speaker 4: make sure they still stay as part of it, and

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Speaker 4: understanding how important their job is, their role is. But

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Speaker 4: you're you're really kind of like trying to just constantly

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Speaker 4: kind of reaffirm how good they are, reaffirm that you know,

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Speaker 4: we need you and all that kind of stuff. You know, hey,

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Speaker 4: with something and whatever else and you're kind of just

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Speaker 4: pushing it to like the next week, because there's some

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Speaker 4: game plans where you know a guy's not gonna get

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Speaker 4: sure you throw a bunch to so and so in

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Speaker 4: the walk through. Like in the walkthrough, we throw to

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Speaker 4: a guy that not a part, not a part of

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Speaker 2: You've never judged people and how they handle their kids.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about right there. See, that's a

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Speaker 2: had yesterday was mostly about it was so Lebar could

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Speaker 2: mourn the Penn State loss. I feel like we spent

434
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Speaker 2: a lot of.

435
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Speaker 3: Time on that.

436
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Speaker 2: No need to go any further into that, but all

437
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: in all, that was a tremendous weekend of college football.

438
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Speaker 2: And I know that you were in Champagne for the

439
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Speaker 2: Illinois USC game.

440
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Speaker 3: Which, by the way, I got to.

441
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Speaker 2: Ask Dean Blandino about that fumble before halftime. I don't

442
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Speaker 2: get it. I don't know what they saw on the

443
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 2: replay that would lead them to not overturn a call.

444
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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, here's well, we'll talk to him in

445
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Speaker 4: a bit. But here's part of my issue with it.

446
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Speaker 4: I don't think Dean, we'll admit this, but some of

447
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 4: those plays where it looks like it could have been

448
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 4: a turnover, because of the ability to use replay, they

449
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 4: will let it stand and then they can rely on

450
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Speaker 4: replay to then overturn it. But the problem with that

451
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 4: is and and they're using their language this year saying

452
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Speaker 4: that it has to be upheld, I meaning that's that's

453
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Speaker 4: that's just saying they had enough video evidence to either

454
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Speaker 4: uphold the call or overturn the call. So that's the

455
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Speaker 4: new new vernacular they're using for that. And the issue

456
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Speaker 4: with that is, you know, you're relying on basically and

457
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Speaker 4: hoping that there's enough angle so you can see it.

458
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Speaker 4: And in that particular case, I thought it was pretty

459
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Speaker 4: definitive that he was down. Like I thought they had

460
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Speaker 4: one good angle of it where you're like, all right,

461
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Speaker 4: he's down. I think that was somewhat clearer to me.

462
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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, man, Like whatever you get. It's

463
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,479
Speaker 2: like somebody's lying right to your face. You and them

464
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: both know they're lying, and they're still just going to

465
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Speaker 2: go through with it. It's like, okay, all right, whatever,

466
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: this is your thing, that's fine, go ahead, you take it.

467
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: But I looked at that game and if there's that fumble,

468
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Speaker 2: there was the other Illinois fumble trying you know, when

469
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: it looked like they were about to score.

470
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Speaker 3: That was critical.

471
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Speaker 2: Other than that, I feel like Illinois kind of controlled

472
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Speaker 2: that game, Like I.

473
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Speaker 4: Feel it should have been by fourteen more points.

474
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that.

475
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Speaker 4: And by the way, USC I believe got uh scores

476
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Speaker 4: off of both definitely the second one. I can't remember

477
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Speaker 4: the first one or not. Yeah, obviously because they ended

478
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Speaker 4: up going in halftime, right, No.

479
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Speaker 2: They kicked a field goal though, that's why they did

480
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: kick a field goal, So it's ten turnovers. Yeah, and

481
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: then and then they scored the go ahead touchdown off

482
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Speaker 2: that other fumble, and then right and then Old Illinois

483
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: got the ball back and kicked the field goal to

484
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Speaker 2: win it. But the scene was crazy there, like that's

485
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Speaker 2: that's a couple of times. I don't know how often

486
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: you guys have been to Champagne, but that's a couple

487
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: of times, like those first time visits to those places.

488
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Speaker 4: Look like they're incredible.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they they and that fan base looks like it's

490
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Speaker 2: like ready to go every but he's you know, ripping

491
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: beers having a good time. The barstool guys are out there,

492
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: so that was a fun watch. The other thing as well, too,

493
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: the Alabama dominance over Kirby Smart is really fascinating because

494
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart's been on a heater over the past few

495
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: years in college football to where they've they've put together

496
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: one of the great runs we've seen in a long time.

497
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: What is it about Alabama that just seemingly has his number?

498
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Speaker 3: Like, what what is that?

499
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Speaker 2: I know, Alabama's got great players, and for all the

500
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Speaker 2: people that said Kaylin de Bor should be fired after

501
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: the first week, that conversation feels a little different now,

502
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Speaker 2: But what is it about Alabama's dominance over Kirby Smart.

503
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Speaker 4: It's it's strange. I would have said in the past,

504
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 4: it was you know Saban and and really his you know,

505
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: one of his understudies who struggled to kind of figure

506
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 4: that out. Like I think during the Saban era for

507
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 4: the most part, now now towards the end, Kirby got

508
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 4: the better of save or at least it was more

509
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: at the top than you'd say Alabama was. But I

510
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: think there was a period of time where Alabama just

511
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 4: had more talent. They're better in the trenches, and it

512
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 4: was a saving coach team, you know, so they weren't

513
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 4: going to beat themselves. But this is a completely different

514
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 4: different story. Georgia's struggled to me offensively, And I'm not

515
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 4: sure what went into the Carson Beck decision to go

516
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: to Miami, if it was purely about money or they

517
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: liked Gunner stocked in better. Gunner's just not the same

518
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 4: caliber of thrower as Carson Beck, and so whoever made

519
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: that decision, whoever thought that was in the best interests

520
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 4: of Georgia, they legitimately put their national champ hopes kind

521
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 4: of threw it up in the air, and really, really,

522
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Speaker 4: I think it hurts them because they can't compete against

523
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Speaker 4: a team like Alabama that has some of that offensive

524
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Speaker 4: creativity saw from Debor but also more than that, a

525
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: guy who is gonna throw it around like Ty Simpson.

526
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what you're seeing is when you've got

527
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 4: a court back who can attack the field vertically, you're

528
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: a dangerous team if you can combine that with a

529
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Speaker 4: running game. And I thought Alabama's offensive line was the

530
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Speaker 4: more physical of the two. That they kind of had

531
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Speaker 4: their way with George up front. Georgia struggled to get

532
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: pressure too. That's been another odd thing for for all

533
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: that you know, we talked about Kirby Smart and their defense,

534
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: and you know how talented their defenders are, They're struggling

535
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 4: to be able to get pressure without bringing pressure and

536
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: that's a bad spot to be in. So I don't

537
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 4: know that i'd say it's like an Alabama thing with

538
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: Kirby Smart. This this felt different. This felt like more

539
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: of a proving moment and more about Kidlyn to Bourne,

540
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 4: him trying to put a stamp on You know what

541
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 4: this is going to look like for Alabama moving forward,

542
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: It's not going to look like what it looked like

543
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 4: with Nick Saban, where they went through years where there

544
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: was very little offense, great defense, a running game and

545
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: that's how they won. And then it had started to

546
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 4: evolve when you got some other quarterbacks through there and

547
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 4: more talented wide receiver. But you know, for the most part,

548
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: it was, I want to say, a boring style of play,

549
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: but it was just different, and I think Kirby started

550
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: to eventually, you know, build up to get teams talented

551
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: enough to be able to compete with that, But you know,

552
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: Stockton struggling that wide receiver group last year struggling drops.

553
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: This year they're struggling with drops. It is just a

554
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: it's frustrating if you're a Georgia Van because you do

555
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: have a ton of talent. You are one of the

556
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: top teams in college football. Yet for a game like that,

557
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: especially versus Bama, they struggle to be able to consistently

558
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: show up.

559
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: By the way, I think ty Simpson is second in

560
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: the Heisman odds. Now, if I'm not mistaken.

561
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 4: Well, I know Dante Moore's leading. Ty Simson might be

562
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 4: up there. I thought there was someone else I know,

563
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 4: I know saying Jeremiah Smith is still up there. There's

564
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 4: one of the name that's escaping me right now. But

565
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 4: there's he's a part of the conversation. He's done well.

566
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Speaker 2: He's second at Dante Moore, which, by the way, and

567
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, take a victory lap

568
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: on the show, but I did say last week that

569
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Speaker 2: my prediction going into the Penn State Oregon game was

570
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: that Dante Moore would be the Heisman favorite after that game. Now,

571
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: most of that was just me trying to get a

572
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: rise on LeVar, which we try to do every single

573
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: day on this show, but as it turns out, it

574
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: actually did did come true. He's the current favorite Undraftkings,

575
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: followed by Ty Simpson, Jeremiah Smith, and then Carson back

576
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: with Fernando Man.

577
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at twelve.

578
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 4: To one, which which he's the other one who I

579
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 4: thought was actually in second. He's been phenomenal this year.

580
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: And by the way, going back to the Illinois conversation,

581
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, it's so hard to predict things in college

582
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: football because you could have a week where I look

583
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 4: at what Illinois looked like on film versus Indiana, and

584
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: it was shocking how dominant Indiana was upfront, how dominant

585
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: their scheme was versus Illinois, just the way I mean,

586
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: Illinois made it seem as if they didn't have any

587
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: ability to throw the football down the field. And then

588
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: you you know, you go play the USC team at

589
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: home a week later, and Illinois number physical team. They're

590
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: able to run the football, They're able to create big

591
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 4: players in the passing game. It's like they can do

592
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: kind of whatever they wanted. Now, maybe that's more of

593
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: an indictment on where Southern Calas and Lincoln rather with

594
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 4: us program. Everyone keeps trying to sell us that they're improved,

595
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 4: they're this, they're that, all right. I mean, they really

596
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: hadn't played anyone up until that point, and that was

597
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 4: kind of that first kind of proven moment versus at

598
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: least a ranked team. The Michigan State game I think

599
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: was a good win for them, but I think Jonathan

600
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 4: Smith would even tell you they're not where they would

601
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 4: like to be yet. So that was like their first

602
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: true test. And again the scoreboard and how that game

603
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: finished was not indicative of where that game was. Illinois

604
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 4: dominated that game. They issued one of my two touchdowns,

605
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: and that's just how drastic things can change from one

606
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: week to the next.

607
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: The other game of note, that was really good. I mean,

608
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: you know, they tried their hardest at the end to

609
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: maybe give LSU a chance, but ole miss winning that

610
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 2: game in that environment. To see Lane kiffen with the

611
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: troll job afterwards, uh, you know, looking looking for his

612
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: daughter's boyfriend, h saying you know, I'm gonna ask him

613
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 2: at the over, Just that that whole Lane Kiffin is

614
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: the perfect present day college football coach, somebody who is

615
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 2: a good coach but gets the whole entertainment aspect of it,

616
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: the social media aspect of it. He posted a quote

617
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: from Brian Kelly talking about basically, you know, almost guaranteeing

618
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: that they were going to win that game on Saturday.

619
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Speaker 2: So just to see him and the way that that

620
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: program performed to beat Brian Kelly on that stage, that

621
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: was awesome. And I don't know what Ole missus outlook

622
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: is long term. I don't know if this is a

623
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: legitimate national title contender, but Lane Kiffin, that guy's found

624
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: a home and it's it's gone of the days when

625
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: Al Davis basically you know, threw him under the bus

626
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: and kicked him to the curb and then he went

627
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: to USC he got fired on the.

628
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: Target, didn't fire the tarmac like I mean. That story

629
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: was wild. By the way, if you for anyone who

630
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: hasn't seen the Lane Kiffin, I think it's an E

631
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: sixty story, right, and it's great, it's fantastic, and it

632
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: just goes to show you how inept Southern cal has

633
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: been as far as their administration. And I have no

634
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: problem saying that that's not a bias take because I

635
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: went to Notre Dame. You go ask people from Southern

636
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: Cal through Lynn Swan to Pat you know, Pat Hayden,

637
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: and just looking at that, even Mike Bone like like

638
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: the whole thing, it's it's it's been awful, and it's

639
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: it's one of the reasons why they are where they

640
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: are right now. But I digress that win for Lane

641
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: Kiff and even though it was a statement win for them,

642
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that like it's as big as

643
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: we think it is. I think we look at the

644
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: ranking of LSU and then that's what makes us feel

645
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: like this is a statement game, such a big win.

646
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: Some of the storylines, like the whole you know, weeks

647
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: dating Lane Kiffin's daughter, that adds to it. The reality

648
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: is is I think this LSU team has been over sold.

649
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Speaker 4: I just I don't think they're that good. You look

650
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Speaker 4: at the win versus clubs, and after we one, we

651
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 4: all thought, oh wow, like this LSU team can win

652
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Speaker 4: a national championship. You know, now you're looking at that win,

653
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Speaker 4: going well, Clemson's not very good. LSU's still struggling somewhat

654
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Speaker 4: defensively but offensively. Garon Nussmeyer's not having this year where

655
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: he's taking off like people thought he would, and people

656
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 4: are blaming an injury because he doesn't have as much

657
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: zip or pop on his on the football. Maybe that's

658
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 4: the case. I don't know. Aga in only they know

659
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: if he's dealing with something. But he's out there and

660
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: it doesn't look as good as last year. You know,

661
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: he's not being able to hit some of those windows

662
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Speaker 4: and make some of those big time throws that had

663
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Speaker 4: some of these, you know, draft and talent evaluators looking

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Speaker 4: at him as potentially the quarterback to be taken first

665
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Speaker 4: in next year's draft. They can't run the football. And again,

666
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Speaker 4: even though they invested heavily in the transfer portal on defense,

667
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 4: they were the number one transfer portal class. It's improved,

668
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Speaker 4: but too only to a certain degree where they can't

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Speaker 4: beat a team like Ole Miss. So again, good win

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Speaker 4: for Lane Kiffin, win for Old Miss. I think the

671
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Speaker 4: reality of the SEC this year is this, they're just

672
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 4: not that good. They're just they're just not that good.

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Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot of people who are

674
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Speaker 4: afraid to say it because there's been a changing of

675
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Speaker 4: the tides, like the Big Ten has overtaken college football

676
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: right now. Look at the rankings, three of the top

677
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: four teams are Big Ten teams and they should be

678
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Speaker 4: like those are those are Ohio State and Oregon are

679
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Speaker 4: the two best teams in the country in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: You know, Miami can can throw into that mix. I'm

681
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Speaker 4: curious to how you know they play Florida State this week.

682
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Speaker 4: But Penn State is a damn good team too, and

683
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Speaker 4: I think Michigan's more on the rise. But the Big

684
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 4: Ten is it's overtaken the SEC, and I think that

685
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: is something that people will find. You know, they might

686
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Speaker 4: say it's biased because I cover it. I watch tape

687
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 4: on and film on everyone. I'm just telling you right now,

688
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: Bama's a great football team. They you know, they're up

689
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Speaker 4: there with Old Miss and a few others. But I

690
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: don't know that you'll find as many complete teams as

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Speaker 4: Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Organ By the way, speaking of the Big Ten, why

693
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Speaker 2: was Portnoy not with you guys in the stadium again?

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Speaker 3: What happened there?

695
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Speaker 2: Well, that's is that not for I don't know.

696
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Speaker 4: Well, look, there's been obviously frustration from one particular school

697
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Speaker 4: in the Big Ten, and that has then spread to

698
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Speaker 4: you know, some others within the conference trying to, you know,

699
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Speaker 4: be more unifying in their approach as to how they

700
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Speaker 4: entertain But look, Barstools there, they did their show there.

701
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Speaker 4: Ye that was different than another school allowed. You know,

702
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Speaker 4: we're at Michigan this week. This is going to be

703
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Speaker 4: the week that gets really interesting because you know, he

704
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Speaker 4: is an alum. I think it'd be a terrible look

705
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Speaker 4: now that Barstool College Football show is not going to

706
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Speaker 4: an arbor this week, but Dave will be there, and

707
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Speaker 4: so whether or not they let him in the stadium,

708
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Speaker 4: we'll have to wait and see. But it'd be pretty

709
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Speaker 4: tough to sit there and say you're not allowing an

710
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Speaker 4: alum to come into the stadium. And also, I don't

711
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Speaker 4: I don't feel like Michigan has any issues with going

712
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Speaker 4: against the grain for what some of the other Big

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Speaker 4: ten schools maybe are doing.

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Speaker 2: I would be shocked if they didn't. I would be

715
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Speaker 2: I would be surprised that they didn't based on that.

716
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Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: Guy.

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Speaker 2: It's gotten to that point to where you know one

719
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Speaker 2: guy and I guess, you know, you know, flying a

720
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Speaker 2: banner over you know somebody who's you know, somebody's school

721
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Speaker 2: or all that. He's probably not the greatest move in

722
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Speaker 2: the world. But I'm just surprised that there's the banning

723
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Speaker 2: of him, because I just thought it was part of

724
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Speaker 2: the part. I thought it was a bit like he

725
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Speaker 2: was standing, you know, on a scaffold outside the stadium,

726
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Speaker 2: like I didn't I didn't realize that that was.

727
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Speaker 4: No actually, no, no, it wasn't. And look for all

728
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Speaker 4: the people out there, I don't want Dave to be

729
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Speaker 4: struck by lightning. I do think, though, you shouldn't ask

730
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Speaker 4: for other people to take the risk of sitting in

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Speaker 4: the area where you could be struck by lightning if

732
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Speaker 4: you've never experienced being struck by lightning before. So I

733
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Speaker 4: just think like if you're like, oh, yeah, you should

734
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Speaker 4: put yourself in harm's way, but you're someone who's never

735
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: actually like done that, like, hey, yeah, go get surgery.

736
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Speaker 4: Have you had it surgery before? The Well no I

737
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Speaker 4: have not. Well, okay, it's it's kind of hard to

738
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Speaker 4: take advice from someone who says that. So that was

739
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Speaker 4: the general point, by the way, and talking to Dave

740
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Speaker 4: about his rant on lightning delays, and.

741
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Speaker 2: By the way, if you have been struck by lightning,

742
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Speaker 2: you're not here to listen to this anyway.

743
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Speaker 4: So that's not true. That's one hundred percent not true.

744
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Speaker 4: He actually looked at the stats because this went down

745
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 4: this winding road of like what percentage of people get

746
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: struck by lightning end up dying? I think it's like

747
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 4: ten percent. Really, yeah, it's not as much as you think,

748
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: like a.

749
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Speaker 2: Direct hit, like a lightning bolt direct hit. I was

750
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: always under the impression, how.

751
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Speaker 4: Else would you describe getting struck by lightning? Well, because

752
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: if you don't get hit, you're not. It's not being

753
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: struck by lighting.

754
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Speaker 3: It hits something else. And you know, the current can hit.

755
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Speaker 4: You can jump.

756
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like there is there is that possibility.

757
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: But I would yeah, well, even if that's the case,

758
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 4: it's still potentially a ten percent chance.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how about like what is the what are

760
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Speaker 2: the percentages? All right, so you've got an update on

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Speaker 2: the lightning strike.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so in the US, roughly twenty people die each

763
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Speaker 6: year from the lightning strike out of two hundred and

764
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Speaker 6: forty thousand injuries worldwide, So twenty people dyeing each year.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's not that's also, I would be willing to guess.

766
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Speaker 4: We also have this debate it's mostly men. It's mostly

767
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Speaker 4: men who died. I mean all seriousness, I think about that.

768
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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to make this like a divisive conversation,

769
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Speaker 4: but we're like, well, like, like, how are people getting

770
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Speaker 4: struck by lane? We're like, oh, yeah, it's probably just

771
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Speaker 4: mostly men. It's either like they're working in an area

772
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Speaker 4: that's dangerous, like yeah, something like that, or they're on

773
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Speaker 4: a boat in the water. It's it's it's something along

774
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Speaker 4: those lines. I would imagine a very very high percentage

775
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Speaker 4: are men.

776
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, who is the golfer who got

777
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: struck by lightning a couple of times back in the day.

778
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Speaker 4: And Natief Goosen we looked that up. They call him

779
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Speaker 4: the Iceman.

780
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Speaker 3: I think there was somebody else too, there is.

781
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Speaker 4: Retief Goosen's got like the best story behind it, and

782
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: he's actually been struck multiple times.

783
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah what yeah, you're swinging the clubs.

784
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: He's South African. Yeah, he's he's he's been struck actually

785
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: multiple times. I've heard the story from his caddy because

786
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: I asked the caddy. I said, hey, I was like,

787
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 4: how often does he get people asking about being struck

788
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: by lightning? He goes all the time. I go, well,

789
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna ask him about to ask you. So

790
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: it's like when we walk up this next fairway, tell

791
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: me the whole story. Then, so the caddy kind of

792
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: like share the whole thing. It's like he's actually been

793
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: struck like two or three times. It's like, not just once.

794
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Speaker 2: Tell me there's no way. There's no way a lightning

795
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: bolt hits your body. There's no way you're just okay

796
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: after that. There's got to be some long term damage

797
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Speaker 2: in there somewhere. I just can't imagine.

798
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I watched that guy, but he had

799
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: zero fear, like, doesn't get shaky over anything. I think

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Speaker 4: I think it enhanced him.

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Speaker 2: take a look at some Super Bowl odds, just trying

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Speaker 2: to see how far down the list, the Ravens have

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Speaker 2: at ten to one with the Bills the favorite. Bring

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Speaker 2: up the Ravens because more bad news for them. We

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Speaker 2: still aren't totally clear on Lamar Jackson's status, whether or

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Speaker 2: not he's going to be able to go. We do

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Speaker 2: know that Namdi Matabique is out for the season with

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Speaker 2: the neck issue, and maybe even longer than that. There's

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Speaker 2: some thought that that might be career threatening. Roquan Smith

839
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Speaker 2: is going to miss some time. It's just not great

840
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Speaker 2: all the way around for Baltimore. And so for those

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Speaker 2: of you that did have the Ravens going to the

842
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl before the year, that's that's looking like.

843
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Speaker 3: Not a not a great pack.

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Speaker 4: Are you one of them?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct.

846
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: And the tough part is like people have to you know,

847
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: injuries play a huge, huge role in all this, and

848
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Speaker 4: you feel lucky, like if you your team to win

849
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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl has to get lucky. And that's not

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Speaker 4: taking anything away from what the accomplished or what Philly

851
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Speaker 4: accomplished last year, for example, it's just the reality of it.

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Speaker 4: Most rosters aren't built to withstand so many injuries to

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Speaker 4: be able to overcome that. Philly might be the exception,

854
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Speaker 4: but still, you know, staying healthy and being able to

855
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Speaker 4: avoid any of that is a huge piece of being

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Speaker 4: able to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so not great for the Ravens, but what's great

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Speaker 2: for you is that we got another hour to play

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Speaker 2: with here on FSR.