WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Countdown - Ep. 3 with Daniel Jeremiah & Dane Brugler (4/6) 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.720 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, powered 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.799 by Amazon Web Services. It is Monday, April six, one 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.280 thirty pm. On today's episode, double Draft Duty, here, E 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.599 and I caught up with Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.840 He does a great job there, and we talked, of course, 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.279 all things draft, and then later on in the show 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.400 we'll hear from Dane Brugler of The Athletic and Dane 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.120 and I go through different Jets scenarios rounds one through three, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.120 so you don't want to miss that as the draft 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.120 just a couple of weeks away here. But first things first, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.199 e A, how you holding up over there in Flora Park. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.960 Green's beautiful day. Uh Son is out gonna make sure 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.960 I get my solitary exercise in. But hey, listen, the 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.680 draft is only two and a half weeks away, Greens. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.960 It is happening. It is going to provide a great 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:55.280 diversion in an outlet for sports fans, specifically NFL fans 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.320 and Jets fans. So I'm getting pumped for this virtual 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.760 draft off. That's not what we thought it would be, 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.840 but we're gonna make do and and make this the 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:11.399 best thing possible. Alright, First things first, NFL draft analyst 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.679 Daniel Jeremiah. Here's the interview and E and I will 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.160 break down right after it goes without saying, but first 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.720 things first, how has this pandemic been affecting your day 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.120 to day basis and then really affecting the draft and 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.679 how to evaluate these prospects? Well, you know what, first 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.480 of all, our you know, our family, our thoughts and 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.840 prayers everybody in your area there, because I know what 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.319 we have in California is one thing. What you guys 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.959 have been dealing with work is tolferent. So we're thinking 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.959 about you guys, praying for for your community. But um, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.640 for me personally maybe one of the only people, it 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.240 hasn't really been that different. Um, I didn't get a 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.160 chance to go out to money produce, which I would 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:51.880 have been gone out to the six or seven prod. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.120 But other than that, I mean, I'm home, I'm watching tape, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.920 I'm preparing for the draft. Uh, you know, looking at 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.600 different teams on the phone, which has been It's been 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.600 interesting because with the general managers all at home right now, Um, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.720 there's not as many people popping in their offices, so 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.600 I've actually had more conversations with gms around the league 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.440 in the last few weeks, and I have prior to 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.440 any of the draft, So it's been good for me 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.960 from a communication standpoint. Obviously, the kids are home, uh, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:19.680 you know, doing school from home. But my kids are 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.760 a little bit older. My youngest is twelve, so uh, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.160 they're they're self sufficient and everybody's doing quite well. Great 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.639 to hear that everybody is doing well. DJ, you were 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:34.440 a former Area Scout yourself before you took the job 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.760 at NFL Network in two thousand and twelve. How do 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:42.320 you think it's impact in those guys, specifically Area Scouts, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.920 National Scouts, the guys who were on the ground throughout 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.480 the year, and now the elimination of pro days, the 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.920 elimination of the prospect visits to the facility, How have 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:57.320 things changed in how are guys relying on the computers now? 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.720 As far as getting to know the prospect at the 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.440 end of the process, Well, first of all, I think 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.960 you're gonna find out who was diligent during the fall 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.680 and who were the guys that weren't procrastinating saying oh, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.840 I've got time, I can talk to this person on 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.040 campus when I'm there for the pro day. I can 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.080 catch up with this player at another point in time 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.040 down the road. If you were diligent and really doing 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.160 your homework on these kids through the fall as an 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.680 area scout or a cross checker National scout. UM, it's 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.360 gonna really benefit you during this time because again, we 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.320 can all figure out the players. You can watch the 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.119 tape and figure out who can play and who can't 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.760 play the challenge. And a lot of times you miss 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.360 on these players because you don't get to know the person. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.160 And you've had chances now with a with a good 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.000 number of these guys to to be around a little 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.160 bit in the fall out of practices, talking with coaches 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.040 and seeing them practice live in person, go to games, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.640 see him at All Star Games, see him at the Combine. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.640 To me, I think there's enough there to really get 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.320 a good handle on these guys if you've been doing 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.640 your work now. Uh, in terms of some of the 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.640 scheme stuff, as the coaches come into the process, how 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.400 do these guys retain your information that you want to see? Uh? 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.080 You know, teams are trying to be creative with that 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.360 was was skype and phase time doing something like we're 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.320 doing right here. Um, get a chance to email the 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.440 kid a you know, a playbook, a really you know, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.200 tiny playbook, and then say, hey, we're gonna skype you 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.640 get in touch with you tomorrow and we'll go over 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.400 these things. And you're you're really it's it's almost like 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.920 recruiting because you're allowed a couple of contacts with these 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.919 kids per week. So I know some prospects and talking 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.640 to them. You know, some teams, you know multiple times 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.800 a week. They're having basically these sessions with them to 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.680 really get to know them. So look, you find a way. Um, 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.080 don't be the guy that that uh is sitting in 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.640 your in your house as a general manager saying well, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.080 we're screwed this year. You know what am I supposed 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.240 to do? Now? Figure it out? Find a way and 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.080 figure it out. And I think most people are doing that. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.000 So the Jets have four picks in the top seventy nine, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.200 and if you were to look at their needs per 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:56.440 se and entering this offseason, you probably say receiver, tackle, edge, 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.400 and corner. So if you're Joe Douglas, like, what's your 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.600 ideals Mario here in those top seventy picks the four 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.200 selections there, well, I would look at it and just 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.040 say a couple of those positions being filled. I think 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.080 you pretty much hit on all of them. Um, in 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.200 a perfect world, you get one of your top tackles 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.800 to fall to eleven, and you know, is that guy 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.239 gonna be there? I mean there could be you know, three, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.520 or potentially even the top four guys go. If the 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.640 top four guys are gone, I don't see them taking 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.400 the fifth player at that spot. And to be honest 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.800 with you, I don't know the order that they have them, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.440 but I would imagine it might even be a case 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.240 where it's the top three. You know, if one of 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.479 your top three tackles is there, you pick them. You've 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.719 got to address that. You know, even with what you've done. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.719 I like Fan and you know it's a high upside 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.240 signing there in free agency. Chuma Dogas got a lot 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.480 of ability, but he's not there yet. I still think 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.560 there's a need at the tackle positions. So that's the 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.760 perfect world where that's there for you eleven. Now with 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.680 these picks, with the two and the two threes, now 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.200 you get a combination of a receiver or corner, an 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.839 edge rusher. You know what, whoever the best available player is. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.080 And I have a feeling that if they don't go 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.600 receiver at eleven, man, they're gonna have some really intriguing 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.599 options there in the second round. You've been doing some 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.839 great things on your Twitter account at Move the Sticks. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.159 I watched you every day. Very recently. You were looking 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:19.479 at Jets wide receiver coach Sean Jefferson son Ban Jefferson, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.560 and you have a lot of good thoughts. Starred sam Um. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.599 Let me ask you something, though. The wide receiver group 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.840 this year tremendous depth, and everybody like yourself has been 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.920 talking about that. Give me a couple other position groups 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:38.000 that really you really like down the line, maybe beyond 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.640 the first round in terms of depth. Yeah, well, look, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.800 you've got the receiver position. I think the running back 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.520 position is a really solid deep group. I think that's 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.320 gonna kind of go into the third, fourth round. You're 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.880 gonna see good backs there. Another one when you look 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.839 at the linebacker position before the combine, you know, I 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.080 kind of done a once over on this linebacker class. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.400 I wasn't super excited about it. And then man, you 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.839 watch all these guys run and work out, go back, 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.200 you watch more tape. I think there's more depth there, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.840 uh than maybe we initially thought, now that's an area 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.040 the Jets are in good position. I don't see them 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.480 go on linebacker anytime early in the draft, but there 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.040 is some depth there. Corner is solid. Um, it's a 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.040 solid group. Maybe a little bit disappointed with where we 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.360 ended up in that position, but I think there is 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.120 some depth in that second third round. Guys like Damon Arnett, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.240 guys like Jeff Gladney from TCU. I think those are 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.040 good second round type players. They're gonna be there when 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.560 the Jets are picking if they wanted to go with 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.040 the corner. But really, you know, to me, I would 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.760 say that the position that really stood out the most 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.680 outside receiver, probably running back. So in terms of receiver 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.120 for somebody like e A and you talked about it 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.640 on your Twitter, like Van Jefferson, even somebody like Brian 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.920 Edwards out of South Carolina who didn't have an opportunity 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.640 to participate in the Senior Bowl of the Combine, Like, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.760 how much is their stock affected by not being able 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.320 to show these teams that won they're healthy and to 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.720 just not having the athletic testing that they could have 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.200 proved at the Combine. I think the athletic testing is 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.400 not as big a deal. Um, the medical is that's 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.600 the whole thing, you know, So where are they health wise? 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.000 And this is the challenge for for these players and 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.080 for these teams. It's really the biggest hurdled have to 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.200 overcome is trying to get updated medical information on these players. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.080 So you know, in free agency they were very proactive 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.160 in terms of sharing information and uh, and be interesting 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:28.960 to see how this thing all comes together with these 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.360 combine rechecked players that aren't going to be available to 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.000 be rechecked. So it's gonna be kind of on those 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.960 agents to to get updated information to these clubs so 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.319 they can be comfortable with where these guys are at 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.760 health wise. But I do think there's probably around penalty, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.560 which means, you know, Van Jefferson probably there's a chance 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:48.880 he could have gotten the second round. I think it's 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.640 a phenomenal player, but because of this a little uncertainty there, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.040 maybe that he drifts into the third maybe potentially even 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.440 to the fourth round. But I would say the third 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.959 round is probably his sweet spot. Um. And it's it's 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.000 like that for a whole host players. There was another one, Um, 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.640 you know, there's a little bit of a concern with 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.760 his top speed, but his game is all about physicality 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.600 and toughness and uh contested catches, So I don't think 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.000 that will cause him to drop. Just trying to get 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.600 again the updated medical information is going to be the challenge. DJ. 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.000 Do you like the way Joe Douglas did approach free agency? 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:24.679 He targeted needs, He set ceilings in terms of his targets. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.480 He also said, we're gonna wrap a bowl around Sam Donald. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:33.360 We gotta protect our franchise quarterback. And also he talked 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.679 about flexibility in terms of, hey, listen, I don't want 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:42.839 to go into the draft and have this glaring need. So, um, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.760 what did you think about how he kind of maneuvered 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.360 throughout the first couple of weeks of free agency. Well, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.000 I thought he had a good job. You know, Joe 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.280 had a plan and talking with him prior to free agency, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.040 he had had it mapped out of kind of what 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.000 he wanted to do and what he wanted to get accomplished. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.160 He wasn't gonna come out there, you know, fire, and 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.880 in that first wave they were gonna have numbers and 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.640 stay within that budget. And you know, the good thing, 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.959 the exciting thing if you're a Jets fan, out there 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.560 is you know, this team right now, they filled holes. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.800 They can take the best available player at pick number eleven. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.080 That's the first thing. And the second thing is when 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.000 you forecast into the future and uh, you know, let's 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.120 we got this year coming up. But once you get 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.880 to one and get to that free agent class, there 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.400 is tremendous flexibility and opportunity for the Jets to make 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:32.559 a big push, uh in the next offseason with free agency. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.480 The way this is set up, with the one year contracts, 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.040 with some other contracts, are gonna be able to get 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.880 out from under. There's gonna be a lot of freedom 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.679 and a lot of liberty there to make a big push. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.160 So this is exciting. It's kind of like, you know, 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.360 I feel like with Joe, if you to a pool, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.559 you kind of go down to the bottom, and then 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.120 you can really you can spring up. And and I 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.559 think right now you're getting a chance to see them 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.480 kind of come up off the bottom. And I think 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.920 next year you're gonna see this thing really take off 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.640 with some of the people they're gonna be able to 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.240 add to this mix. But to me, this this offseason 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.880 was gonna be about the draft first and foremost, and 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.560 free agency was gonna supplement what they do in the draft. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.960 But to me, the the key additions for the Jets 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.040 in the off season have yet to come. They're coming 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.720 here in a couple of weeks. DJ so E and 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.120 I have talked about this too. Joe Douglas is the 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.240 first time as general manager, so you can't really get 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.880 a feel for how he wants to operate outside of 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.640 seeing who we learned from and you think of guys 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.800 like Azi knew So and Howie Roseman, and when talking 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.680 about trading up, not at eleven, but the Jets have 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.360 capital in the third round to potentially make a move 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.920 up into the second round or even to the back 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.640 end of the first round. Can you just kind of 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.439 talk about philosophically why that could benefit Joe Douglas and 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.040 the Jets. Well, I think you can make a you 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.960 can make an argument for that. I don't see that happening. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.840 I think if you see the Jets move around in 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.760 this draft, they're gonna move back. Joe is very confident 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.559 his evaluating ability. He's confident in the group that he's 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.560 assembled around him, you know, led by guys like Phil Savage, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.600 Rex Hogan. He's as you're outstanding. So to have confidence 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.960 there in a draft it's this good in those middle rounds, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.760 I think you're trying to add to that number, not 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.840 subtract from it. So you know, short of potentially their 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.920 number one tackle being on the board at number nine, um, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.160 you know, maybe they could go up just two spots 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.480 and wouldn't be quite as costly. I think that would 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.880 be you know, potential opportunity there, But again I would 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.520 say more than likely. You're talking about if you're gonna move, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.520 you're moving back to get extra picks. There's still a 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.120 lot of holes on this roster, and uh this year, 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.040 the second third round picks, those are too valuable to 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.680 part with, in my opinion, do you think there would 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.280 be a group of players there at eleven if there 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:45.480 is a run on quarterbacks early where maybe a team 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:50.560 calls Joe and says, okay, we'll give you an extra 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.560 two or an extra three to move back two or 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.000 three slots in that first round, where you might potentially 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.920 do you think there's a situation where you could have 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.320 a group of players together at that tackle position and 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.800 potentially wide receiver and say, hey, maybe it's our best 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.320 bet to go back because I do have a stack 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:16.240 here that have similar ratings on our board. Yeah, I think, 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.240 especially if the top tackles go UM. To me, there's 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.920 a case you can make to trade back because there's 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.960 you know, if you're gonna go receiver, there are so 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.360 many good options there. So if somebody else is one 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.880 that they're particularly in love with, UH and they want 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.559 to give you a nice price, a team like Denver 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.160 that's picking fifteen, where you wouldn't have to slide back 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.200 too far. Um, the Raiders picking right behind him, a 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.360 team that looks to be in the wide receiver market 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:40.800 could be one of those deals where you get a 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.600 little something just to slide back one spot. So UM, 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.000 I think those those opportunities would present themselves. I just 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.280 don't see if there's a tackle that they really like. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.960 I can't envision a way they would trade off of 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.520 that pick instead of sitting there right then filling a 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.880 need on this football team, and goes back to the 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.880 theme that you guys mentioned. You know, Joe uh knows 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.679 he's got to protect Sam Donald. It's gonna go as 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.920 far as Sam Donald can take this team. So that 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.319 to me is number one priority. And if you've got 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.240 to tackle that you feel good about. You don't trade 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.120 that pick. All right, DJ, we appreciate you coming on 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.760 New York Jets dot Com. And stay safe out there 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.920 in California. You guys, be safe, man. It's great to 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.000 catch up with you guys. All the best, Okay. So 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.840 obviously a great interview with Daniel Jeremiah, who's, like he said, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.200 one of the only people who's not affected by the 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.440 stay at home effect here and the quarantine rules because 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.680 this is basically his time to self quarantine preparing for 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.000 the NFL Draft. But what I thought was interesting in 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.800 terms of Daniel Jeremiah's interview was that he basically said, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.680 the way that the Jets have gone about their free 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.720 agency so far it allows them so much flexibility in 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.840 one and same thing for the draft. And it seems 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:59.240 like the emphasis that DJ place was really on next season. Well, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.120 he's the first guy who actually has spoken about one 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.440 with the Jets, saying that the free agency class next 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:12.240 year looks very good on paper. And the one thing 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.880 that I got out of Joe Douglas last week that 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.360 struck with me, well, I guess a ton of things, 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.680 but what struck with me was depth. He wanted to 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.160 build the depth of this roster, and he certainly did 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.040 that so far in free agency. Now, if you're looking 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.080 for the Jets to make a splash, maybe they make 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.080 a splash in the draft, maybe they make a splash 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.000 or two in one in free agency, but that was 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.200 definitely not the plan here this spring and free agency. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.280 All right, and looking ahead, Now, let's hear from Dame 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.640 Brusler of the Athletic who, like I said, we do 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.800 a weekly segment on New York Jets dot com, so 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.840 you can also check it out there in video form. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.240 But Dan and I break down different scenarios for the Jets. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.280 So this week we talked about potential defensive players for 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.640 the Jets at eleven, offensive tackle options in round two, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.880 and then of course capped off by wide receiver prospects 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.400 in round three. Dane, let's take a look at some 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.760 scenarios here for the Jets as the draft just a 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.080 couple of weeks away, and an unpopular opinion, I'll say, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.720 in terms of mock drafts, as if the Jets in 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.200 fact take an offensive player at eleven and so, do 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.840 you see that more as a trade back scenario or 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.040 are there in fact players not named Jeff Kuda not 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.400 named Chase Young, that are worthy enough of that eleventh pick. Yeah, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.040 I think so, and a trade back is always an option. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.480 But if they stay put at eleven, um, you know, 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.040 I think most of us, uh, both fans and analysts, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.400 we would agree that offensive tackle wide receiver. That looks 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.040 like the two biggest needs and probably the two most 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.360 realistic options in the first round. But you know, if 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.080 the draft played out exactly like we expected every year, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.640 this wouldn't be any fun. So let's keep it open mind, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.960 and let's talk about, you know, players on the defensive 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.000 side who could be there at eleven and would be 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.840 worthy of consideration. And I think it starts at edge 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.120 rusher with Clavian Chason Uh. After Chase Young, there's a 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.680 little bit of a drop off at pass rusher, but 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.119 good chance that Chase on from l s U is 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.080 that next pass rusher off the board somewhere in the 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.440 top fifteen or sixteen picks. He has that twitchy athleticism, 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.080 the body bend where you can capture the corner, he 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:19.600 can drop playing space. Is still maturing physically and technically, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.360 but you know, I think you'd like to see him 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.000 a little more advanced with his counters, how he uses 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.520 his hands, but he's a high ceiling edge defender. And 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.439 you know, you look at the Jets and you know, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.720 bringing back Jordan Jenkins on one year deal, that looks 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.280 like a smart move. But I think that no one 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.440 would look at that depth chart and say, Okay, they're 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.840 done building at pass rusher. They could use more some 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.840 more help, and I think Chason would certainly give them that. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.639 Now if they want to go in the secondary, I 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.040 think that's also an option that would make sense. And 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.439 it's similar to pass rusher, where you know there's an 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.160 Ohio State defender at the top. You look at cornerback 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:58.119 jeff A. Kuda, the almost near consensus top corner in 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.959 this draft, but there's a little bit of a dry 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.440 up off after him, and then Florida's C. J. Henderson. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.280 I think he's, like chas On, projected to go somewhere 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.800 in the top fifteen sixteen picks, and he would make 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.840 a lot of sense right there at eleven. He's over 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.240 six one, he's a fourth three athlete, plays sticky coverage. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.440 I wish you were a little bit better of a tackler. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.960 I wish he was more of a playmaker when you 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.199 watch him on film, but he's gonna be a starting 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.600 corner in the NFL for a long time and the 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.840 Jets could certainly use a guy like that. So the 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:30.000 Jets and Joe Douglas clearly want to build this offensive line. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.520 And the draft is predicated on unpredictability. So let's say 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.520 that the Jets don't go offensive tackle and round one, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.760 and to your point, do take an offensive player if 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.320 they were to go offensive tackle and round two? Who 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.720 are some names that makes sense there? The one that 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.240 really stands out is Isaiah Wilson from Georgia. A massive 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.200 human being six six and a half three fifty pounds, 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.400 thirty five and a half inch arm length, and he's 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.520 not a bad athlete for a guy that size. He 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.879 makes it tough on rushers to run the arc to 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.399 win inside so and then in the run game he 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.480 creates movement with that that brute strength and meanstreak that 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.880 he has. Uh, you do wish he was a little 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.360 more technical, technically refined with his hands. Uh. He's only 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.880 read shirt sophomore, so the fundamentals I think are still 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.959 catching up with the natural skill, and that leaves him 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.240 leaning in space laboring a little bit, so a little 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.840 bit of a work in progress as a technician, and 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.600 his personality might not be for everybody, but that's what 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.480 we're talking about. Him in a second round, not the 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.520 first round. So he has NFL starting potential. He just 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.680 might need a little bit of time. And I tell 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.200