WEBVTT - Friday Flight - Dumb Debit, Asinine Arbitration, & Eccentric Economic Expectations #891

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Out of Money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Joel and I am Matt, and today we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about dumb debit, asinine arbitration, and eccentric economic expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Joe, let's make sure everyone heard you correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>You said dumb debit. Everyone knows that debt is dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>But where pronunciation skills are not the best always.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually that's normally where I shine my quince and speaking

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't often shine through.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like my alliteration was especially strong today and

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<v Speaker 2>potentially over the centric economic expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>That one was really strong. Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean that in a good way, like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I ever did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we haven't talked about the Brays recently. You bummed

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<v Speaker 3>that the Braves are out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the playoffs, some massive collapse, but we knew was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. My hopes were low.

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<v Speaker 3>But the cool thing, I'm surprised that we that the

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<v Speaker 3>Braves made it as far as they did, given given

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<v Speaker 3>the injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, star players who were out agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>But one I think thing that needs to be talked about,

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<v Speaker 2>and we won't talk about sports long. Don't worry, but

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<v Speaker 2>the when you talk. My mom always told me growing

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<v Speaker 2>up Matt, you can't buy a team, and sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the big spending teams, they always try, like to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get the star players who are incredibly expensive, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was always fun to watch them collapse or

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<v Speaker 2>not performed merely as well as they were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if anybody out there is like

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<v Speaker 2>laughing when other people get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Point and I giggle. It's really fun to see what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening with the Detroit Tigers right now. Yeah. Their entire

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<v Speaker 2>payroll is half less than half of what one player

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<v Speaker 2>on the Yankees gets paid, and so their entire payroll

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<v Speaker 2>is eighteen million, eighteen million. Yeah, and I think crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>think about when the Dodgers paid Shoheo Tani seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars, right, And so it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the course of how many years, like a decade, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>over the.

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<v Speaker 2>Course of it's still still though, yeah, insane. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pulling for the Detroit Tigers at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hey, yeah, Like who doesn't want to root for

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<v Speaker 3>an underdog? And especially given Detroit, I feel like that

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<v Speaker 3>city has experienced so much hardship, right like over the

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<v Speaker 3>like you look at history, like the past fifty years

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<v Speaker 3>with the collapse of the auto industry and unions and

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<v Speaker 3>all that, and like it makes me think about like

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<v Speaker 3>during the housing crisis during the Great Recession, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>had to get myself off of Instagram, Like I followed

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<v Speaker 3>this account that was called Cheap Old Houses and they

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<v Speaker 3>would feature so many beautiful turn of the century homes

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<v Speaker 3>in Detroit, and I would always show them to Kate

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<v Speaker 3>and be like, hey, babe, you want to move to

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<v Speaker 3>this place because they're basically giving these houses like twelve

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars. Yes, and it just needs a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of work. And this doesn't mean that Detroit's like all

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<v Speaker 3>the problems are now fixed because housing was affordable there

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<v Speaker 3>and now the Tigers might make it to the World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am happy for Detroit. Yeah, as a city.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to see when they've been crapped on for so long.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like a some silver linings.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps it seems like Detroit is a rad place to hang.

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<v Speaker 2>I have never been. I would love to go, And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll go see a Tigers game next year and

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<v Speaker 2>check out this awesome team that they've got. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to the Friday flight, Matt. Let's get to the

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<v Speaker 2>sampling of stories we found interesting this week. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about debit cards. We don't really like them for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part. And the good folks over at Experience, Matt

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<v Speaker 2>the Credit Bureau Experience, And I say that with my

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<v Speaker 2>tongue firmly in my cheek. They're not great folks necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure there's some good people who worked there,

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<v Speaker 2>but the organization as a whole not one that we

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<v Speaker 2>really dig or have much fondness for. They launched a

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<v Speaker 2>debit card last year, and friend of the show, Ron Lieber,

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<v Speaker 2>he writes for The New York Times, he put out

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<v Speaker 2>this great article warning people to be wary of this

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<v Speaker 2>debit card product that Experience has.

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<v Speaker 1>He can always count on, mister Lieber.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he's holding people's feet to the fire. And

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<v Speaker 2>why did he hate this thing? Why is he telling

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<v Speaker 2>us that we should avoid it. He's basically saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the perks are really lackluster, and they're going to make

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<v Speaker 2>it sound like it's this awesome thing, but it's really not.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of the promises that the long that they're

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<v Speaker 2>saying is is basically, this account can help you raise

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<v Speaker 2>your credit score. That's one of the major selling points

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<v Speaker 2>for Experience to say, instead of just relying on us

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<v Speaker 2>for your credit needs, you should also rely on us

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<v Speaker 2>for your banking needs because guess what if you bank

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<v Speaker 2>with us, which they're not really a bank, they're one

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<v Speaker 2>of those they've got one of those pass through banks

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<v Speaker 2>that they're working with. If you bank with us, well,

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<v Speaker 2>mate will help you raise your credit score. Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>can enroll in their Experience Boost program, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>their free credit building product without opening a bank account

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<v Speaker 2>with them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know why folks would actually trust this

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<v Speaker 3>company that has done such a poor job yeah at

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<v Speaker 3>protecting your personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Data, not just Experience, all the credit bureaus, but oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, Like why would I want to bank with

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<v Speaker 2>a company with this kind of reputation? And you and

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<v Speaker 2>I were not fans of debit cards in general, but

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<v Speaker 2>getting one from a credit bureau would be like a

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<v Speaker 2>double dose of dumb, I think. So it's called the

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<v Speaker 2>Experience Smart Money debit card, not so smart avoided people.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to think of a parallel, like what

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<v Speaker 3>do we see in life, or like what's an example,

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<v Speaker 3>and it makes me think of Ticketmaster because everybody hates Ticketmaster, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but it would be as if I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just had to hold my nose and buy tickets from

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<v Speaker 2>them recently, Yeah, all.

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<v Speaker 3>This fees man, it would be as if you chose

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<v Speaker 3>to wear a Ticketmaster's shirt, because it's like, well, Ticketmaster

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<v Speaker 3>they are music industry adjacent, like they kind of are

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<v Speaker 3>involved with the bands that you love, and you love

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<v Speaker 3>wearing band t shirts stool of your favorite bands. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, but no, I actually hate Ticketmaster. I just

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<v Speaker 3>like the bands that they tend to showcase. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like experience is doing here. It's like they're

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like the thirty rock how do you do

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<v Speaker 3>fellow kids, Like they're trying to swoop in and get

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<v Speaker 3>a part of the action, when in reality they're not

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<v Speaker 3>able to provide anything of actual substance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now you're making you want to get a Ticketmaster

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<v Speaker 2>and an experience lower back tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do tattoos cost?

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<v Speaker 3>I've never I don't have a tattoo, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>pay for that for you to get given of this. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>we got a tap experience because they would probably they

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<v Speaker 3>probably would sponsor you. Yeah, we like credit cards a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot more obviously, because well they have better protections.

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<v Speaker 3>They can be far more rewarding. But that being said,

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<v Speaker 3>there are new credit card fees that are coming down

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<v Speaker 3>the pike, largely in response to the CFPB's attempt to

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<v Speaker 3>cap late fees at eight dollars, which is by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>this is hung up in court. The outcome is unsure.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like a student loan thing. It's like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen here?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't exactly know. Yeah, but the big credit card issuers,

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<v Speaker 3>the big banks, they're planning for the hammer to fall.

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<v Speaker 3>And like we said back when that announcement was made,

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<v Speaker 3>their credit card companies, they will find another way.

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<v Speaker 1>To keep their profits elevated. They're crafty.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna find a way to charge you some Some

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<v Speaker 3>of them are considering instituting new fees for let's say,

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<v Speaker 3>paper statements. Others are just raising their interest rates, even

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<v Speaker 3>as the FED is actually lowering the overnight lending rate.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, well, I thought my credit card interest rate

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna go down. Matt and Joel said that it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this other thing happening over here, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So big bank, so they got to find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to make a bug.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually going up. But bottom line, what this means though,

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<v Speaker 3>is that you should never run a balance regardless. That's

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<v Speaker 3>regardless of whether or not interest rates are going up

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<v Speaker 3>or not. Never carry a balance. If you have one,

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<v Speaker 3>pay it off as quickly as possible, of course, but

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<v Speaker 3>then just create a written plan, stick to it when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to eliminating some of that credit card debt,

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<v Speaker 3>and then just make sure to pay attention to some

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<v Speaker 3>of the different hoops that the banks are going to

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<v Speaker 3>require us to jump through, and we'll make sure to

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<v Speaker 3>keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 1>That as well. Yeah, if there are any egregious examples

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, if there really is. If you get hit with

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<v Speaker 2>a paper statement fee, stop getting paper statements and the

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<v Speaker 2>need to offer the digital ones. And if you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you need to keep the records of all your

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<v Speaker 2>credit card statements, do that. But you can save the

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<v Speaker 2>PDF of those and keep them on hand digitally. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>do people actually save their credit card statements anyway if

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<v Speaker 2>they keep the paper ones. Yeah, so find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to reduce those fees. It's you're right, Matt. The credit

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<v Speaker 2>card companies, we knew this. If you tamp them down

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<v Speaker 2>in one area, they're going to find another way to

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<v Speaker 2>keep their profits up. Let's make the case for a

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<v Speaker 2>second for technology though, and against checks. We've done this before.

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<v Speaker 2>We hate checks, but it's not because even in this instance,

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<v Speaker 2>retailers aren't accepting them anymore. We talked about how Target

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<v Speaker 2>has basically said, no, we're not taking checks at checkout anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because scammers can actually easily use checks to commit

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<v Speaker 2>fraud or theft. And there was a recent example of

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<v Speaker 2>this map. They can steal the check right out of

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<v Speaker 2>your mailbox and take your money. And so this is

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<v Speaker 2>happening to people who have opted to get their tax

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<v Speaker 2>refund by mail instead of getting their refund via direct deposit.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you're one of those people, you are

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<v Speaker 2>a target to have your tax refunds stolen. Fortunately, ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of folks have opted for direct deposit these days,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's to lease a lot of people. Think about

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent of Americans Matt, getting their tax refundsent to

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<v Speaker 2>their mailbox. That's a sizeable number of folks who are

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<v Speaker 2>taking the old school route. And then if the check

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<v Speaker 2>gets stolen, it's a massive pain of the button, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>There are examples of people who have said, hey, my

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<v Speaker 2>checkout stolen. I didn't come in the mail, and a

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<v Speaker 2>thief stole the funds, and then the IRS sends another

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<v Speaker 2>check it also gets stolen. This is a significant problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You're out, Yeah, and eventually the IRS is going to

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<v Speaker 2>send you the money that you're owed, but you're out

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<v Speaker 2>the refund for even longer. For a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>met the refund can be you know, multiple thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of folks are counting on that refund. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think most Town of Money listeners know this,

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<v Speaker 2>especially given the demographics of the people who listen. But

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<v Speaker 2>direct deposit offer that it's easier, it has fewer pitfalls,

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<v Speaker 2>And so in the spring when you file your taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure to elect for a direct deposit because if

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<v Speaker 2>you opt for a check to come, one it could

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<v Speaker 2>get stolen. And two, even when you're asking for a replacement,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't switch to direct deposit. They have to. The

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<v Speaker 2>IRS basically says no, we're going to send you another check,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't change the method of payment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the very least, maybe you know somebody so,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, Jill, I think a lot of our

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<v Speaker 3>listeners probably aren't opting for the paper check, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>there might be somebody in your family, for instance, who

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<v Speaker 3>is opting for that, and make sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That this is a discussion that you have with them. Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about entrepreneurship. There's a spike in small business

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<v Speaker 3>formation back when COVID hit, But the thing is is

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<v Speaker 3>that is continuing strong and many of the companies that

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<v Speaker 3>were formed during that COVID induced economic downturn, they have

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<v Speaker 3>been crushing it. And it turns out it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, stemy check phenomenon that we're causing folks

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<v Speaker 3>to reconsider their you know how, it is that they

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<v Speaker 3>spend their time they're nine to five, and that's good news.

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<v Speaker 3>It's happening all across the country and in big cities

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<v Speaker 3>and small cities, in metropolitan areas as well as rural

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<v Speaker 3>locations as well. And the rise of remote work, which

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<v Speaker 3>it is I will admit it is seeing a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a pullback in corporate America, but it is allowing,

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<v Speaker 3>it is aiding the ability of individuals to start their

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<v Speaker 3>own thing when they have a little more time, They

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<v Speaker 3>got a little more flexibility to take on some of

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<v Speaker 3>that additional works.

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<v Speaker 2>You're connected. It's so much easier to connect, and you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned rural America, Matt, think about something like starlink and

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<v Speaker 2>how it's easier to get good internet service in almost

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<v Speaker 2>any part of the country guardless of.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you're off grid somewhere else, you can still

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<v Speaker 3>have internet access. It's easier than ever to start working

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<v Speaker 3>for yourself, even if it's like only part time for

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<v Speaker 3>a while. Something like eighty percent of businesses are solopreneur businesses,

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<v Speaker 3>and we are personally big fans of starting your own thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and so if you are considering hanging your own shingle,

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<v Speaker 3>we would recommend for you to listen back to episode

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<v Speaker 3>eight eight four week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we tied some of the benefits.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked with guests Laura Adams about maybe why it

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<v Speaker 3>is that you should consider.

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<v Speaker 1>Working for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she gave a lot of great insights for

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<v Speaker 2>how to go about launching that business and then specifically

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<v Speaker 2>as a small business owner too as this wholopreneur kind

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<v Speaker 2>of some of the things you need to know. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's definitely worth listening to, Matt. One of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>people often choose to not go work for themselves is

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<v Speaker 2>because their healthcare is tied to their job. Right, A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people continue working for the man because they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>how am I going to pay this twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars healthcare premium annual premium for my family if I

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<v Speaker 2>go out and work for myself, and it is that

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<v Speaker 2>is I will admit, one of the toughest hurdles to

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<v Speaker 2>jump when we're talking about going out and starting your

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<v Speaker 2>own thing. It's a terrible economic reality in this country

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<v Speaker 2>that reduces entrepreneurship and it inhibits economic dynamism, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons I think that health care costs

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<v Speaker 2>are rising much faster than almost everything else, the employer

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<v Speaker 2>involvement in individual and family health care in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>and as everyone knows, buying healthcare as a self employed

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<v Speaker 2>person is tough. Is so much of how much it

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<v Speaker 2>costs depends on your income because of subsidies on the

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare exchange. A lot of people, including you and I Maatt,

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<v Speaker 2>have opted for health sharing companies because they're not traditional insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of that they can save you a bundle

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<v Speaker 2>with some pitfalls as well that you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>aware of. But some employers have actually started taking a

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<v Speaker 2>different approach and so instead of providing actual healthcare and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the plan that we offer once you sign up,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're an open enrollment season right now for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, well, they're offering you money instead to

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<v Speaker 2>get your own plan on the private market. I like

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<v Speaker 2>this so much more. You know, more employees are interested

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<v Speaker 2>essentially in lessening their own financial burden because how much

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<v Speaker 2>premiums have gone up, And it does give employees more

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<v Speaker 2>choice over the type of coverage and the type of

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<v Speaker 2>plan that they choose to have. But I will say

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<v Speaker 2>this too, where it's happening, it could be end up

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<v Speaker 2>being a financial loser for some folks. Depending on how

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<v Speaker 2>generous the healthcare stipend is, you might find that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not able to buy as nice of a health care

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<v Speaker 2>policy that maybe doesn't cover quite as much with the

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<v Speaker 2>new stipend. It's good for employers. I think it can

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<v Speaker 2>help you make wise decisions when you're shopping for insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>but you also might find that there's a gap there

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<v Speaker 2>between the coverage you used to get and the coverage

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<v Speaker 2>you can now afford. So ultimately, wouldn't it be nice

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<v Speaker 2>if we were able to disentangle healthcare from employment altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be good for our country. It'd be

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<v Speaker 2>good for small businesses, but good for the dynasism. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's dynamism.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like combining cynicism and I guess a dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>labor market perhaps. But something else that is at least

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<v Speaker 3>partially connected to your job is your retirement account. We're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about four to one ks here. Well, changing jobs

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<v Speaker 3>can also have adverse effects on your retirement and the

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<v Speaker 3>reason for that is because there is some new research

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<v Speaker 3>from Vanguard and they find that when people switch jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>and even if it's to snack a bigger paycheck, they

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<v Speaker 3>often end up forgetting to sign up for the new.

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<v Speaker 1>Four to one K plan rookie fail or. A lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Employers are auto enrolling their newer employees, but sometimes the

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<v Speaker 3>default rate is only three percent. And let's say you're

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<v Speaker 3>at your previous employeer, maybe you're up to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>six seven, eight percent perhaps maybe more, maybe even more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And because of that, Vanguard says that this could be

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<v Speaker 3>easily this could be a six figure mistake, costing folks

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<v Speaker 3>massive money and compounding over the coming decades because of

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<v Speaker 3>that reduced contribution amount, because of subsequent inertia bias as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You just kind of stick with what it is that

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<v Speaker 3>was the default option, and you're missing out. Future you

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<v Speaker 3>is missing out. And so if you're changing jobs, just

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you pay close attention to what your

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<v Speaker 3>prior contribution percentage was. And what we would suggest is

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<v Speaker 3>just try to mirror that at your new employer, right,

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<v Speaker 3>just carry over some of those good habits or even

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<v Speaker 3>consider raising it, especially if you are making more money,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a perfect time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a perfect time for you to sort of trick

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<v Speaker 3>yourself into thinking that, oh, well, it's not actually painful

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<v Speaker 3>at all for me to increase how much I'm saving

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<v Speaker 3>because my paycheck it's staying the same, and so you're

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<v Speaker 3>able to save more or you know what, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of folks with the raise, they're able to do both.

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<v Speaker 3>You experience a slightly fatter paycheck but not over the top, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>while at the same time experiencing higher amounts of saving

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<v Speaker 3>as it's going towards your Form one K.

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<v Speaker 1>This was something I like, the both and approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny, this is something I hadn't really thought about, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, you've been increasing your four one K

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<v Speaker 2>contribution percentage. You started out at five. Let's say by

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<v Speaker 2>the time you left that job, you got it up

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve or thirteen percent. Amazing. But then you get

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<v Speaker 2>the new job, you're auto enrolled at three and you

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<v Speaker 2>just let it be. I just never thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. Vanguard points out that it's a meaningful problem.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're switching jobs, definitely pay attention to this, because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're reducing your contribution amount by that much, we

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about a potential six figure deficit when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to your future retirement.

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<v Speaker 1>But Joe, we got more to get to. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the types of landlords who are the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that more right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Matt, we're back. We've got more to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>We will talk about preming landlords and no, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a self owned Okay, we're decent landlords people.

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<v Speaker 2>But now let's get to the ludacrous headline of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>This one comes from CNN and the headline reads, couple

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<v Speaker 2>in severe uber crash can't sue because of an uber

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<v Speaker 2>eats order, And that sounds really frustrating, Matt, and basically

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<v Speaker 2>My takeaway from this article is Uber sucks, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>also not alone and sucking. They're acting like most other companies.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do most other companies do. They stick arbitration

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<v Speaker 2>agreements in the terms of service that we all sign

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<v Speaker 2>but that none of us actually read. And the couple

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<v Speaker 2>in this attempted lawsuit was severely injured, including spinal fractures,

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<v Speaker 2>which sounds terrible, after the uber they were riding in

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<v Speaker 2>was in an accident. And then Uber's response essentially is

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<v Speaker 2>tough luck. You got to go through the system we've

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<v Speaker 2>set up that's essentially designed to screw you. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>so bad about arbitration, you might be wondering, Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>deck is stacked against the individual in the case of arbitration,

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<v Speaker 2>the arbitrator. This is The New York Times did this

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<v Speaker 2>investigation a few years back, Matt. The New York Times

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<v Speaker 2>essentially found that arbitration finds in favor of the company

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<v Speaker 2>eighty plus percent of the time. So you, as an individual,

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<v Speaker 2>you could be spending a lot of money in arbitration

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not getting a fair shake here. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting a fair hearing. Companies avoid paying out billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to consumers by using the arbitration system to their advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is one of those clauses that's in the

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<v Speaker 2>fine print of every terms of service that we all

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<v Speaker 2>automatically ascribe to. I think it's important to point that out,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's also important for us to highlight

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<v Speaker 2>when companies are using it in a way that's improper.

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<v Speaker 2>And part of this was the couple said that what

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<v Speaker 2>was their daughter who signed up and made that order

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<v Speaker 2>through Uber eys It wasn't even them, and Uber saying nope, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>it was under the household or whatever. We're holding you

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<v Speaker 2>to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the terms of service agreements that we have to

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<v Speaker 3>accept in order to use certain software and different apps

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<v Speaker 3>and different services, it's kind of ridiculous, get out of control,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think someone who is following more of the

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<v Speaker 3>letter of the law would say, well, you shouldn't agree

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<v Speaker 3>to those terms.

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<v Speaker 1>Of service, but like, it would truly take a part time.

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<v Speaker 3>Job to be able to read through all of the

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<v Speaker 3>different agreements that you scroll down and clickach so you

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<v Speaker 3>don't even have to scroll down anymore, because it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's hyperlinked.

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<v Speaker 2>Rumpel Stiltskin ask man, I feel like I probably owe

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<v Speaker 2>my firstborn children to one of these companies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reason we're pointing this out is because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a certain amount of hassle that we expect to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with when it comes to being able to use some

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<v Speaker 3>of these different services. But when there is a company

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<v Speaker 3>that isn't doing the right thing, I mean technically, Joe, well,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're media and so our ability to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>shine a light on this and hopefully to encourage companies

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<v Speaker 3>out there to do a better job we were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we the mainstream corporate media mat or are we

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<v Speaker 2>the independent media?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we're a little more alternative, independent type

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<v Speaker 3>of guys. But it makes me think back to Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when they there's a lady that died because of

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<v Speaker 3>that severe allergic reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was just not longer.

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<v Speaker 3>At least they back down when they realized that they were,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, treating their customers in a way that was

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<v Speaker 3>just beyond the pale. But Uber they're not budging. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we want folks to know that these arbitration agreements they're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of par for the course and they do limit

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<v Speaker 3>your legal recourse and hopefully, yeah, hopefully Uber ends up

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<v Speaker 3>doing the right thing. I will say it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 3>an accident that the car was involved with the driver

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<v Speaker 3>did run a red light, and so part of me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just advocating slightly on behalf of Uber, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to play devil's advocate here and say, maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have all the facts, because typically you would sue

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<v Speaker 3>the driver because they have auto insurance. But I'm curious

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<v Speaker 3>us if the couple is looking for a bigger potential

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<v Speaker 3>payoff from a giant company as opposed to just the

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<v Speaker 3>meager offerings that they might receive from somebody who has

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<v Speaker 3>auto insurance. Of course, but that having said, if that's

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<v Speaker 3>the case, then Uber needs to communicate that clearly, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this is a pr issue. If that's the case,

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<v Speaker 3>then they need to make it clear that like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>like they're going to be taken care of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just this is the mean. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So either way, it doesn't seem like that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot of clarity or transparency in how it is

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<v Speaker 3>that they're handling this.

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<v Speaker 2>But speaking of the companies being unkind, how that's not

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<v Speaker 2>rare at all, isn't that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>On that note, we would recommend to maybe don't rent

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<v Speaker 3>a home from Invitation Homes. The FTC they actually issued

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<v Speaker 3>a warning about unnecessary fees that Invitation Homes has been

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<v Speaker 3>charging tenants. They've got this worry free way of renting

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<v Speaker 3>a home, and the worry free marketing it didn't quite

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<v Speaker 3>line up with the real life tenant treatment that folks

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<v Speaker 3>were receiving.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been some horror stories, yeah, they've come out over

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<v Speaker 2>the years about Invitation Home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they're going to be forced to refund forty

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<v Speaker 3>eight million dollars to folks who have rented with them,

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<v Speaker 3>and these two stories with it, you know, with invitation

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<v Speaker 3>Homes and Uber, I think the takeaway is just to

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<v Speaker 3>know your rights, and in this case, I would say

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<v Speaker 3>do your best to avoid Wall Street landlords or phase

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<v Speaker 3>of the mama pop style landlords.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like all mom and pop landlords are great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's a lot that is true. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>number of them that are bad. But the number of

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<v Speaker 2>stories that have come out about invitation Homes across a

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<v Speaker 2>number of years are so harrowing. The lack of response

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<v Speaker 2>to issues that tenants are having. And then this lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>from the FTC about the excessive fees that are being charged,

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<v Speaker 2>the non refunding of security deposits when they were clearly

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<v Speaker 2>gidden fees.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't like that either. Yeah, the ability for

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<v Speaker 3>a company to be transparent in this way as to

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<v Speaker 3>what it is you're actually going to charge your customer.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, oh, it's going to be worried for your renting,

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.880
<v Speaker 2>it turns out it's it's not worry free and it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to cost you. And I think this is also

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<v Speaker 2>really important to mention, Matt to whether you're renting from

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<v Speaker 2>a corporate land or whether you're running from an individual.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always important to take photos and videos when you

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<v Speaker 2>move in to note the condition of the home. Typically

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 2>there's like a walk through inspection with the landlord, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't always do that, and so what I would

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<v Speaker 2>do is I would document thoroughly, Hey, this is what

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.199
<v Speaker 2>the home looks like. If there are little issues, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you can point them out to the landlord and say, hey,

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>these things could be fixed. If they're minor things, you

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.040
<v Speaker 2>don't need to necessarily push it, but at least you

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<v Speaker 2>have that in your back pocket for when you're moving out,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can document take photos and videos then too,

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<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, it looks pretty much the same, or

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<v Speaker 2>actually there is this gouge in the paint here or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you have photos and videos, that can be

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<v Speaker 2>your protection if there is some sort of legal recourse

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 2>that you have to see totally, Matt, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>insurance for a second, and specifically insurance in the light

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<v Speaker 2>of what's been happening recently. As far as the weather,

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it's probably an understatement, just horrific weather events essentially happening

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 2>in the southeast. The destruction from Hurricane Helene was rampant,

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 2>specifically in western North Caro Line. We talked about that,

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 2>and then Hurricane Milton pummeled Florida earlier this week too.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like it wasn't as bad as it could

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<v Speaker 2>have been, fortunately, but it's been an awful couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks on the natural disaster front. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>my neighbor who's got a place in Florida, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>basically saying, I don't know, man, I think I might

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>be ready to get out, like this is just too

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>much to bear. And I totally understand that. Like, if

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 2>you live in Florida, it's been your life has been

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<v Speaker 2>caught up in horrific hurricanes. So our hearts go out

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.880
<v Speaker 2>to everyone who's lost family or friends who's had to

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<v Speaker 2>evacuate and met their estimates. Property damage could cost owners

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven billion dollars. It's kind of hard to fathom.

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 2>That's a big number. And it also has highlighted issues

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>that FEMA has been dealing with perpetually and continues to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with, in how they respond to disasters and how

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.120
<v Speaker 2>people are how quickly people are helped, and how quickly

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 2>money gets into their hands. It's also highlighted the gap

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<v Speaker 2>between what people think they're coverages and then the lack

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<v Speaker 2>thereof when it comes down to it. A lot of

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>folks thought, hey, my homeowner's insurance it's going to cover

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the damage that I've sustained, and they're often sorely mistaken.

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 2>That's because these policies don't typically cover damage from flooding.

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 2>That's right, you need a separate policy for that. And Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in North Carolina, fewer than one percent of folks

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<v Speaker 2>in the places they get like the worst flooding damage

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 2>have that kind of coverage, which adds insult to injury.

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, if damage you are a loved one

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 2>sustained is called flood damage, but you think it isn't.

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 2>It's important to fight back because that's happening too, because

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>some insurance companies are saying, hey, listen, no, this damage

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:33.719
<v Speaker 2>was due to flooding, and you're saying, no, wait, this

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. There was a hole in the roof, that's

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.399
<v Speaker 2>how the water got it, like a tree smashed through

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the There was no flooding that happened. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>be willing and able to document and push back on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're standing there pointing fingers at each other right

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 3>where the Hormeter's insurance is saying no, no, this is

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 3>due to flooding, and then the spider man means is

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 3>exactly it's pointing, be like, no, that's actually when damage

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 3>that's not covered under flood insurance. And so there's Yeah,

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 3>there's a whole lot of advocating for yourself that's going

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 3>to have to take place here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple of things too. Won't file a claim

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<v Speaker 2>if the damage you sustained was minor, if it's something

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you can fix fairly easily. And there

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people in that situation too, where

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just minor damage. Fortunately, you probably don't want

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.479
<v Speaker 2>to get insurance involved because you could see your rate

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 2>skyrocket and it wouldn't be worth it. The other thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>if you feel like you are being treated unfairly by

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<v Speaker 2>an insurance company, you know, I want to contact a

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<v Speaker 2>public adjuster. My parents are literally in this process right

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<v Speaker 2>now because they sustained some roof damage and oh yeah,

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and the insurance company basically said, hey, listen, we don't

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>think you need a whole roof replacement. And they're saying,

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 2>we're pretty sure there's enough damage that the whole roof

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 2>needs to be replaced, and so they're an impass and

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>so what you do then on your own dime, but

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you got to hire a public adjuster who can help

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<v Speaker 2>mediate that. But oftentimes public adjusters can help you get

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<v Speaker 2>paid in a way that you advocating for yourself cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I like what you said too about considering

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<v Speaker 3>not even going through insurance if it's a minor enough incident.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I actually have a neighbor who this is actually before

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 3>all the storms, but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Local storm and a tree went down damage like they're siding,

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<v Speaker 3>took out part of the fence, and I talked to

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 3>him like the very next day, and I was just like, hey,

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 3>actually doesn't look all that bad, huh. But he had

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 3>already reached out and already filed a claim. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at this as someone who schedules work at homes

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<v Speaker 3>fairly often, and I'm thinking, man, you could probably take

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<v Speaker 3>care of all of this for a few thousand dollars.

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 3>And he's already got the insurance company involved, which could

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<v Speaker 3>have a negative impact on his premiums.

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Sit down on the road, my deductibles one thousand bucks.

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>This is going to cost three. I'm coming out two

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<v Speaker 2>grand in the green. Ultimately, that's that's not what happened.

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 3>You are perpetually and definitely even sometimes paying more in

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>premiums every single year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to go on your clue report when you

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<v Speaker 2>trying to switch insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 3>So that it happened, y'all. So it might be worth

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 3>crunching some numbers in that case. Also for the future,

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 3>for folks who have been impacted by these major storms,

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<v Speaker 3>check out floodsmart dot gov and that's where you can

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<v Speaker 3>determine your risk level, where you can shop for a

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<v Speaker 3>flood insurance policy if it turns out that you are

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<v Speaker 3>in need of one, and if you are, like the

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 3>vast majority of folks without coverage for flood damage, you're

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<v Speaker 3>probably need to get help from FEMA. So make sure

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<v Speaker 3>to apply for assistance over at FEMA dot gov or

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>link to where there is where you can apply for

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 3>housing assistance essentially, but then just document everything along the way,

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 3>because a lot of folks aren't going to necessarily want

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 3>to wait to get their life back on track to

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 3>hear like a lot of folk aren't gonna wait to

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 3>hear from a government organization who is probably completely up

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 3>to their neck in trying to help folks. But take pictures,

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 3>take video to highlight the extent of the damage, and

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>keep all your receipts. But we wish everyone out there

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 3>the best of luck, and we you know, last week

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 3>we talked about ways to donate if you are so inclined,

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 3>and we'll make sure to include those links to some

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.959
<v Speaker 3>of those different vetted organizations again, but especially too when

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 3>it comes to FEMA. I think I saw only something

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 3>like three percent of folks who are denied, So folks

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 3>who apply for FEMA only something like three percent of

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 3>folks who get denied and are told no, actually appeal

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>And man, I know that there's a whole lot going on,

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 3>but when we're talking about a big ticket item like this,

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 3>like your home, this is something that's worth appealing. So

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 3>don't be like ninety seven percent of folks. We want

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 3>you to be a part of that three percent.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this squeaky wheel gets the grease. And if you

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>get turned down or something, it could be just because

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you didn't feel something out properly on the application. Like

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 2>there's all sorts of potential explanations. So if you're first,

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the first word you get from FEMA is no, go,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 2>don't go, like keep barking barking at that door.

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>That's right, all right.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>In another sign, Matt, that money is still a taboo

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>topic in this country, Americans, as it turns out, a

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>recent survey shows would rather talk about politics than money.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>They would rather talk about who they're voting for from

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the heart of belief with their fellow human There's I

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>don't want to talk about that with almost anybody right now,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>exactly close trusted friends who get me. But this is

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 2>according to a new US Bank survey. I wish we'd

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>talked about politics less and talk about money more. And

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>if we're able to accomplish one thing with this show,

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>it would hopefully be to prod people to not only

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 2>handle their own money better, but to feel like they

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>can talk about money more freely in their lives with

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 2>their friends and their family, not in some sort of

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>braggedocious way. Look at how I'm croshing it. I'm doing awesome.

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm on money Gear seven, whatever it is. But it's

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 2>certainly not to be able to do that to make

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 2>yourself look awesome. But money, confusion, money shame are just

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 2>these powerful things. They hold people back, oftentimes from making progress,

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and I think so much of that. The reason that

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>is the case is because we have made it a

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>topic that people are essentially not allowed to discuss. And

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you know who better to start some of those combos

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>than people who listen to the show How to Money.

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>You don't need to know it all, You just need

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>to be willing to start a conversation and to allow

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>for a little bit of awkwardness in the beginning. Matter

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>You might start that conversation start feeling a little weird

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and self conscious that you're doing it. But I think

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 2>there are ways to go about being a little more

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 2>open about this topic without freaking your friends out. And

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I think the more we talk about it, the more

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 2>we normalize this as a topic of conversation, the better

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>off we're all going to be, because then I guarantee

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>your friends and your family have questions they don't know

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing with their money, or if they do,

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 2>they love to talk about it too. They just feel

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable as well. So starts slow, starts small, But I

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>think having those conversations it's going to be way better

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>than talk about politics, talk about money instead of Thanksgiving

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 2>table this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Really agree?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So on the note of conversations, something that economists

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 3>have essentially stopped talking about. It's the possibility of a recession.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Goldman sacks they just reduced their projected likelihood of a

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 3>recession in the next year to fifteen percent. And Jully,

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 3>remember it wasn't all that long ago that I think

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg said that we had a one hundred percent chance

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 3>of experiencing a recession.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>This was almost exactly two years ago, Matt. It was

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<v Speaker 2>October twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the end of twenty two, and even early into

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of twenty three. It was like, oh, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. It's going to happen. When's it going to hit?

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<v Speaker 2>So much humility coming from Bloomberg, the one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>call that didn't come to pass.

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<v Speaker 1>It never hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Economists are now saying that everything's going to be fine

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<v Speaker 3>and dandy, there's no clouds on the horizon. And we

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<v Speaker 3>say that, like, I'm not poking fun at economists, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not mad at them, but I do tend not to

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<v Speaker 3>trust these sorts of predictions because, like a one hand,

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<v Speaker 3>the economy, it certainly looks solid right now, markets at

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<v Speaker 3>all time highs is great. But I also wouldn't assume

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<v Speaker 3>that events out of our control couldn't negatively.

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<v Speaker 1>Impact the status quo. We would always.

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<v Speaker 3>Recommend for folks like basically, anytime there's good news, we

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<v Speaker 3>want you to think, hey, something bad could happen. And

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<v Speaker 3>when everyone is like freaking out and running for the

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<v Speaker 3>hills and saying that like the world's about to end,

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<v Speaker 3>look for opportunity because the herd mentality, I think oftentimes

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<v Speaker 3>works against our own ability to get ahead with our

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<v Speaker 3>personal finances. And so what that means for right now

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<v Speaker 3>for you practically speaking, is just to not get too

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<v Speaker 3>far over your skis. When it comes to your spending,

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<v Speaker 3>it means living on less than you make. It means

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<v Speaker 3>living within your means having a solid emergency fund in place,

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<v Speaker 3>having life insurance, all the things that we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>day in and day out here on the show. I

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned the stock market a second ago. It means not

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<v Speaker 3>getting overly excited that, oh my gosh, I'm wealthier than

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever been in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for most people.

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<v Speaker 3>That's for like retired you, and it shouldn't have an

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<v Speaker 3>impact on how it is that you're spending money today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And so if you're tempted to check your balances, don't

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<v Speaker 3>do that. Just keep investing like you always have them.

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<v Speaker 3>And these predictors might be right. There might not be

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<v Speaker 3>a recession over the next incoming over the next year.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know. And just like the Bloomberg people didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know two years ago because they were dead wrong. They

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<v Speaker 2>were almost the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was dead right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So just yeah, don't believe the talking heads economists

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<v Speaker 2>have correctly predicted predicted like nine out of the last

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<v Speaker 2>two recessions. Matt, that is a common thing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>also want to say this too, that despite whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not we have a macro recession that kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>impacts our country as a whole, there's always the possibility

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<v Speaker 2>for a micro recession, like a personal recession in your

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<v Speaker 2>own way, whether it's just your specific industry, your employer,

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<v Speaker 2>something that happens in your own family. So like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what you're talking to about, personal preparedness that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you might see, oh, things are rosy with

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<v Speaker 2>the economy, but actually things aren't great in my life

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<v Speaker 2>right now. We want you to be prepared for that eventuality,

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<v Speaker 2>despite what the goons at Golden Sacks or Bloomberger are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, we hope everyone has a great weekend, Hug

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<v Speaker 3>the ones you love, and we will see everyone back

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<v Speaker 3>here on Monday. You can find links up on our

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<v Speaker 3>website at howtomoney dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got all the different resources for you and your personal

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<v Speaker 3>finance journeys, so many resources. Man, But Joe, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be it for this episode. So until next time,

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<v Speaker 3>best Friends Out and best Friends Out