1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase that Lee. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: This is the Philly Show. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Everybody rubin tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury Todds The Lucky. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Territory Network. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Monday, January twentieth, twenty twenty five, less than twenty four 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: hours after a big Eagles win. Guys, you watch the game, 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: I assume where'd you guys watch it? What'd you guys eat? 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: What did you guys think? 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: That's what everybody's talking about today. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: No, the Philly Show, but everybody's talking Eagles. 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: Good. Jim Oh, I watched it right here at home, 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 3: me and my dog. My family was out of town, 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: and it was an exciting game. I fact, I like 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: watched the whole second half standing up in front of 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 3: the TV. And that last drive, that big sack they 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: had was great, but that last drive was scary because 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: of those two missed extra points. And I know, kicking 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: is just very difficult. I once heard kicking described like 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: in a cold weather game, like a you know, single 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: digit temperature with snow. Somebody said it was like kicking 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: a frozen pumpkin. So I have had great you know, empathy, respect, 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it for those kickers and 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: what they have to go through in that weather. But 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is those two and he 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 3: did kick some big field goals, but those two missed 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: extra points, you know, opened it up for the Rams 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: to come down and win that ball game. So that 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: was very very nervous, anxious moments coming down the stretch. 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: I mean, missing those extra points is the baseball equivalent 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: of run around third with no outs and not getting 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: the run home, and it comes back to bite you 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: later in the game. So but you know, the Eagles 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: rose up and won that ball game, very very exciting. 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: I can't imagine what it was like getting out of 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: that parking lot no and all those people, and I'm 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: glad it wasn't doing it. But you know, great game 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: by sake on Barkley, the offensive line, the quarterback, just 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: you know, heck of a game. Really looking forward to 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: the championship game next week. I'll start Washington Commanders. Scary 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: a lot of athleticism on that team, but I think 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: it'll be a really fun game. 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: You mentioned Sequon Barkley. 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 5: That may go down as one of the greatest offseason 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: acquisitions of any or free agent signings in the history 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 5: of Philly sports. 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 4: I mean just based on what he did. 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 5: I know, Pete Rose was a big one, and we 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 5: you know, we did you know, we did a couple 50 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: of things over the years, but as far as just 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: impact median impact, he may very well be the greatest 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 5: signing of in the history of Philly sports. And he's 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 5: just an amazing athlete and a great person. 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,279 Speaker 4: I mean anything. Anytime you hear him talk about. 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: You know, his you know what he what is important 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 5: to him, winning and that sort of thing, and it's 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: pretty special. 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: I had my heart in my throat higher game. 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: I saw your tweet. 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what. 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: I got tickets for my kids and I went to 62 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 5: I actually went to the tailgate, got tickets for my kids. 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: And they went to the game. 64 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: Uh they they h bared the you know, the weather 65 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 5: and all that stuff, but uh, they had a great time. 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: But I scooted to my brother's house. 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 5: I went to Taco's house and watched in the calumn 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 5: but in Ben Salem, just chilling out there and uh 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 5: and and actually not chilling up and enjoying the game. 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: I got fired up on the big plays. Obviously with 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: Saquan and and some others. But that sack you said, 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 5: Jim that that's sort of helped seal things. That was 73 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: huge because Strafford was Stafford was just unbelievable. I mean, 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 5: he had an unbelievable game, great veteran presence under center 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: for UH for l A. And you know, all I 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 5: could think about was like the karma thing with what's 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: going on in l A. And these guys are destined 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: to win and all this other kind of stuff. But 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: they made the big plays when they had to got 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 5: it done. And you know, I feel bad for Jake 81 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: Elliott just because you never noticed that kicker until he 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 5: blows one and he blew two and and. 83 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 4: It makes it. 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: You said, the equivalent of not getting a runner in 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 5: from third. I view it as like a ground ball 86 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: to a second base, and you're not being able to 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: throw a baseball a little Steve Saxon from which took 88 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: me out of the infield. That was one of the 89 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: reasons why I didn't play in the infield. But it's 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 5: a it's a bad feeling for a kicker, there's no doubt. 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 5: But he did kick a couple of pretty big field goals, 92 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 5: so it's a. It's a it's a strange game, but 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 5: it was a fun game and it will be a 94 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: tough one against Daniels next week. 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: This kid is a great, great quarterback. 96 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 5: He's going to be a pain in the ass for 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: a long time for the Eagles playing for the Commanders 98 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: or Redskins or whatever team whatever they call themselves. 99 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Later on, Yeah, you guys mentioned like what the what 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: those miss pats were? 101 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: Like? 102 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: I remember Caleb Cotham last week and mentioned I've heard 103 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: some actual affiliate Matt Strom has mentioned this as well. 104 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: It's the kickers man, or we're the relief We're the 105 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: kickers of the of Major League Baseball relief pitchers man. 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: Nobody ever comes over. 107 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: And talks to us until we blow it. 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: And then also, and everybody's at my locker after the game, 109 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: although Jim and I know that you and I both 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: make a point to go talk to these guys during 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: good and bad times. 112 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: So it's not we're not doctor death when we. 113 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 4: Go over there. But because you're professionals, boys, you're pros. 114 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: That's why when they're throwing well, and when they so, 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: then when then when they blow a couple of games, 116 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: they don't they don't want to punch a hole through 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: our chest. But yeah, fantastic game. It's when the Eagles 118 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: are playing well, just like when the Phillies are playing well. 119 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: It's fun to see everybody in the city, everybody wearing 120 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: their Eagles gear and and all that. 121 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: So you went down to that, But what what about 122 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: the food? Yeah? I went down. 123 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: I went down to so then you just so the 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: traffic players out and then you get me and drive off. 125 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: Party. 126 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: Party for about an hour and a half of my 127 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: man Gian Marco martins Chelli and then uh off with 128 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 5: the Ray Pinaccia and then uh there there I was 129 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: eating some food on my man Luis's. Uh he had 130 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: some great food there. It was spectacular. And then I 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 5: went to my brother's house and ate some more food. 132 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: That's fantastic. 133 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 5: There is not wings eats wings. He had a nice 134 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: little charcootery board. 135 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: It was oh man, I like that. 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: There's nothing like a playoff run in Philadelphia. And I 137 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: really don't even care what the sport is. That's all exciting. Uh. 138 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: The whole town just you know, invests in it emotionally and. 139 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: On many levels. 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, people can't wait for next weekend with the Eagles 141 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: and the same thing in Red October, and it'll be 142 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: the same thing when the winter teams get their stuff together. 143 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: It's very exciting to be part of. 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it is. It is awesome. 145 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: And but we got to talk some baseball, right guys. 146 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: We have to talk a little bit of baseball. And 147 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: there there was some news over the weekend. I want 148 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: to get I was I've been dying to ask you 149 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: guys about this, so that the rich get richer. The 150 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Dodgers get Roki Sasaki, which is not really much of 151 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: a surprise, and then they yesterday get they get Tanner 152 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Scott to a four year it was a four year, 153 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: seventy two dollar deal. So for Phillies fans sitting at 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: home over the weekend really from Friday through Sunday. 155 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: How should they feel about this? 156 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: How should they feel about the Dodgers Just continuing, Well. 157 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: You know, Dodgers are National League team in the Phillies, 158 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: you know, are in when the World Series motor bust. 159 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: And that's a big roadblock in front of it. Because 160 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: they have created a capital s capital U Capitol pe 161 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: capital er super team out there in LA and you 162 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: know they've added Snell. This winter. They've added Sasaki and 163 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: Snell on the mound. Last year they got Yamamoto on 164 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: the mound, and oh, by the way, they're also adding 165 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: Otani back on the mound this year coming up in 166 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: twenty five. And you know they're gonna go with a 167 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: six man rotation, which is interesting. But you have all 168 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: that talent. They had so many pitching breakdowns last year 169 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: that they're very deep in pitching and they're dangerous. They 170 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: you know, signed resigned Tasker Hernandez, they resigned Tommy Edmund, 171 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: they extended Will Smith, they have Freddie Freeman, they have 172 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: Mookie Betts. They are great. So they are you know, 173 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: you stand up and you take notice of them, especially 174 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: when you're in the National League. But you know, the 175 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: Phillies offseason doesn't really compare to the Mets. But I 176 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: still like the pick up of Lozarta, and I still 177 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: think the Phillies have a good nucleus and if they 178 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: if they play good, they will be they will be 179 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: dangerous and if they healthy, they will be dangerous. 180 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we will be right back. 181 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 6: How's that New Year's resolution going for you? 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Additional taxes, fees, 199 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 6: and restrictions apply to Mint Mobile for details. 200 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: Hey, I gotta tell you, man, I love having super 201 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 5: teams in Major League Baseball. 202 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: I love it. 203 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: I mean you know, they become like public enemy number 204 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 5: one and everybody sort of focuses on them. Was a 205 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: little bit like the Yankees for many many years when 206 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 5: they were just you know, buying their championships and or 207 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: at least people were saying about there, buy it. Even 208 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 5: though they had great they had a great core there 209 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 5: for a long time that was built from their own organization, 210 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 5: which I think is also pretty important. So listen, I 211 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: got no problem with it. I like, you know, the 212 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 5: juice that it creates. You know, obviously you love to 213 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 5: spread the wealth. But I had no problem with these 214 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: guys getting after it. And I remember being on MLB 215 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 5: Network and talking with Andrew Freeman, and I think that 216 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: either the Padres or the Giants, I can't remember which 217 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: executive was that we had on he basically told Andrew 218 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: Freeman before he got he came on, he goes, would 219 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: you guys just stop spending money? 220 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: And andrews. 221 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 5: And then when we asked Andrew after, he goes, no, 222 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: we're not gonna stop spending. 223 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: We're gonna do what we can to make our team 224 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: the best team we possibly can. And they have, and 225 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: you got to give him credit for that. 226 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: That they continue to try to improve as they you know, 227 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: even after winning the World Series, is something that I 228 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 5: thought was important when we won the World Series in eight, 229 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 5: to try to improve an nine and move forward because 230 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 5: it's so hard to win, to win, I mean, the 231 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 5: Dodgers are only one what one one real? I mean 232 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 5: World Series and what a zillion years. I don't even 233 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 5: know how many years it is. I mean twenty twenty, 234 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 5: I think that. 235 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 4: Was a farce. 236 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 5: But the one in uh, you know that this past one, 237 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: it's been the first one real one in a long 238 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: long time. So he knows how difficult it is to win. 239 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 5: And listen, I know people want to spread the wealth, 240 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: but hey, it's going to be a great challenge. They 241 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 5: got to play the games on the field, and they 242 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 5: have to stay on the field. And now I know 243 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 5: that they have a lot of injury issues and have 244 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 5: and especially in their pitching staff. I will say this, 245 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 5: the one thing that has impressed me is that the 246 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 5: what kind of staff they put together. 247 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 4: You talked about the six. 248 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 5: Man rotation, and I've been talking about our Phillies rotation. 249 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 5: With the way it's set up right now, with the 250 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 5: Zarto adding to the to the I still think that 251 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 5: the Phillies have, if not number one one A maybe 252 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: not quite as deep as as La, but LA's put 253 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: themselves in a position at one of the best, if 254 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: not the best, starting rotations down the game. 255 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: I was gonna say. 256 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: The thing about the Phillies rotation, though, is you'd probably 257 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: if you had to put money on who is going 258 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: to which rotation is going to hold up the best, 259 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: you would probably maybe put some You'd probably give the 260 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: edge towards the Phillies with with Wheeler and Noe at 261 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: the top of No, Rangers had a lot of injuries 262 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: over the years. 263 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: But but Sanchez has you. 264 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: Know, been pretty durable last couple of years of lazarda 265 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: coming off an injury. That said, but you know Snells 266 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: gets banged up. Glass knows he always hurt. Yeah, Yamamoto 267 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: was hurt last year. Otani coming off Tommy John surgery. 268 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: I think you tell you assume he's going to be 269 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: healthy and pitch well. But yeah, one one A. However 270 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: you want to slice it, you know, I don't think 271 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: it's doom and gloom for Phillies fans. You know, once 272 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: you get in the postseason, anything, any anything can happen, 273 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: So it's not. 274 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: People kind of want to like, well, Dodgers, that's it. 275 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: It's over Phillies are gonna if they if they're lucky, 276 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: you'll get the NLCS, and then they're definitely going to 277 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: lose to the Dodgers. 278 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Not not necessarily. 279 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 5: The case, winning winning the off season is not winning 280 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: the championship. You go, you got to do it all. 281 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 5: You can win the off season. It can mean nothing. Honestly, 282 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 5: I mean means something, but it doesn't necessarily. You got 283 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 5: to play the games. It's one hundred and sixty two games. 284 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: That's the beauty of our sport is that anything can happen. 285 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 5: There's a lot of stuff that can happen over the 286 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 5: course of one hundred and sixty two games, and then beyond. 287 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: Two things of relevance. The Phillies have had this, you know, 288 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: was out excellent pick up, but in terms of you know, 289 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: free agent outlay, free agent spending compared to previous years, 290 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: it's been modest. That said, in terms of Competitive Balance 291 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: Tax payroll, there's still number two in baseball, ye though, 292 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: like seventy million behind the Dodgers, but the Phillies are 293 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: still number two in that CBT payroll. And then the 294 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: six man rotation thing with the Dodgers, you know, it 295 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: fascinates me a little bit because you know you're gonna 296 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: have Andrew Painter arriving July ish, as Dave Dombrowski says, 297 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I would toy with the 298 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: idea of going six man. I'd at least explore it, 299 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: have some meetings about it, because that Wheeler is going 300 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: to turn thirty five in May. Aaron Nola's north of 301 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: thirty since twenty twenty one. They're like number one and 302 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: number three in the major leagues and innings, and the 303 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: team's going to be defined in October. They're going to 304 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: get to October and that's what's going to define them. 305 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: And I want them, and I want Ranger dealing, and 306 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: I want I want a fresh, healthy It's not you know, 307 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: kind have a fresh rotation going and talk to him, 308 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: but I want to I want to sound healthy, effective, 309 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: full strength rotation going into October. If they stay healthy 310 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: in that five man, you know, right down through Lozardo 311 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: and Sanchez, do you guys toy with the idea of 312 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: and when Painter arrives, if he's ready and he's good 313 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: and if all things go well, do you toy with 314 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: the idea of a six man so that you're nice 315 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: and and so you're quote unquote that cliche the best 316 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: version of yourself in October. 317 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: I like the idea. 318 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: It immediately popped into my head when I keep reading 319 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: about the Dodgers six man. Dodgers six man, we'll paint 320 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: you had painter, there's a six man to me. 321 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: I guess if they get that far enough. 322 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: Down that road, and I mean Dave Dombrowski, Rob Thompson, 323 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Caleb Coffam, the pitching staff and whatnot, I guess the 324 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: first conversation you have is with Zach Wheeler, right, I mean, 325 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Zach has made it known that, yes, I don't like 326 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: the extra rest. There's a I can't remember when it 327 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: was during the season, but oh, you know what it 328 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: was that the Phillies were in Anaheim. I think early 329 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: in the season he had some extra rest and he's 330 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: I think he struggled in Anaheim. And afterwards he was 331 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: pretty surly talking about how I don't like I like 332 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: to stay on my turn. But I think maybe you 333 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: frame it that way like you did Jimmy. You know, 334 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: he's turning thirty five. We're trying to win a World Series. 335 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: If what if, what if we could? We don't know 336 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: for sure, but zach Man, what if you could be 337 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: just a little bit sharper, have a little bit more 338 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: life in that arm in October. We can't guarantee that'll 339 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: be the case, but what if we could make that happen. 340 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: And we think we can make that happen by having 341 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: a six man rotation man when you want to give 342 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: that a shot, maybe maybe he comes around on it, 343 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: but that's that's the guy you have to sell it on. 344 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: It sounds funny because he's been great October and we're 345 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: not trying to change anything with him in October. Want 346 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: him to be the same guy, lightning bolts coming out 347 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: of his fingertips. I just want to ensure that the 348 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: lead up and that everything's in place going into October 349 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: so they can continue to shine. It might be, you know, 350 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: like because of his desire to not pitch on six 351 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: days and keep it to every fifth day, maybe it 352 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: wouldn't work. But I think it's an interesting talking point 353 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: here on the old toddpod. 354 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: So I think there's a couple of things here to unpack. 355 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 5: I like the idea, especially during that time I talked 356 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 5: to Jeff Cooper all the time. He used to talk 357 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 5: to Jeff Cooper the man, meanest man, pound for pound 358 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: and all of baseball. He was the old planner for 359 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 5: the Phillies, and Coop always talked about, you know, having 360 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: that dead arm period, right, that dead arm period sometime 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 5: between for the starters, between sometime late June all the 362 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 5: way through August, where guys sort of just don't have it. 363 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 5: Whether they could just shelf them for a little bit 364 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: and putting them into a six or man rotation. Perhaps 365 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: you can do two things. And I know it's complicated, 366 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 5: but it can be done where maybe you skip other 367 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 5: guys Wheeler doesn't want to be skipped. Maybe a skip 368 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 5: Nola for a start, skip less Arto for a start, 369 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: you know, and then slide that sixth man in there 370 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 5: and sort of rotate. 371 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 4: And I mean you can. 372 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: You can be really creative and do something like that 373 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: and help them through that dead arm period and also, 374 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: like you said, keep them from having less life when 375 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 5: it comes to September and October. I think it's a 376 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 5: great idea. I wouldn't put it past them at all. 377 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: One of the reasons why it took us a while 378 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: to get Nola to the major leagues, because we were 379 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 5: getting him acclimated to pitching every fifth day instead of 380 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 5: every seventh day like he was doing basically in college, 381 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: and preserving that and making that adjustment. Perhaps that's what 382 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: they need to do with Painter because he is He's 383 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 5: that valuable and maybe even more valuable than than Aaron 384 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 5: Nola was to us at that time. And so I 385 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: don't have any problem at all with them toying with 386 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: that idea. And I got to believe that it's something 387 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: in the back of their mind. Who wouldn't want to 388 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 5: have that that healthy arm pitching for you every fifth 389 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: or sixth day come July, August, September, and hopefully in October. 390 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: And in October. It's not going to solve the swing 391 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: and miss and the offense and the you know, the 392 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: periods of famine that we see in the offense when 393 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: the when the runs you know, are tough to come by. 394 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: I mean last year the bullpen struggled. It's not going 395 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: to address those two issues. But I still think starting 396 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: pitching is so important. It could really fortify that going 397 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: into October. So you know, we'll see if I could 398 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: double back and Ruben you kind of alluded to this, 399 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: and so I guess I know your answer. But is 400 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: all this deferred money with the Dodgers? 401 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: Uh? 402 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: Is it? Is it something that? 403 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: Is it fair? 404 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: Is it? Yeah? It is? It? Is it? Is it 405 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: a good thing? And is it something MLB might look 406 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: in the next CBA after after twenty six because you know, look, 407 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: you look at all these extensions, they have significant deferrals 408 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: in them. 409 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it's something that Rob Mafford is going 410 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 5: to have to look at and listen, Rob Mafford has 411 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: to basically approve every single deal, every deal that comes 412 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: down the pike that has to be sort of approved 413 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: by the Major League Baseball Commissioner. And so so far 414 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 5: these things have gone through and there's no real rules 415 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 5: set up such that, you know, you can't do this. 416 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: I think it's something that that some of the financial 417 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 5: people are likely going to start really bearing down on. 418 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 5: I don't think that the MLBPA is going to be 419 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 5: very happy about it, because they want it wide open. 420 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 5: They want you know, they want the players to be 421 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 5: able to get whatever they can possibly get at their 422 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 5: at their leisure. But it is something that it's going 423 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: to be addressed, I think. And there's you know, you 424 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 5: talk about the salary cap. Is that going to be 425 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 5: part of this next CBA. I mean, I mean, I 426 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: think this CBA is really good to find Rob Manfred's 427 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 5: in a lot of ways to find you know, his 428 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: his place in baseball history, because this next one is 429 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 5: going to be a tough one. The money's gotten crazy, 430 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: and the deferrals are part of it. Until that happens, Man, 431 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: do what you got to do as a player, as 432 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: a as a ownership. If you have put yourself in 433 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: a position to be able to do that, then go 434 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 5: ahead and do what you gotta do. 435 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: And the Dodgers have built something great talent. I mean 436 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: the ballpark they're renovating, and again, their facilities are going 437 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: to be awesome, are always are awesome from spring training 438 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: right through the regular season. They're winning culture. They are 439 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 3: very smart in terms of conditioning, nutrition, analytics. Maybe you know, 440 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: they are sort of the gold standard of you know, 441 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: or one of them in major league teams. A lot 442 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: of Major League teams want to be just like the Dodgers. 443 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: And now they're just expanding into a whole nother market 444 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: in Japan. 445 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 5: And I gotta give I got to give Andrew Freeman 446 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: some love because there's a lot of question about whether 447 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 5: Andrew Freeman could go go from Tampa Bay, which is 448 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: a small market team, how he would adjust, how he 449 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 5: would think, how he would work in a large market 450 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 5: like Los Angeles, and he's taken it to another level 451 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 5: over there. 452 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 4: You got to give him. You got to give him 453 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: a lot of credit. 454 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 5: Stan Kasten and all the people that are involved there, 455 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: Googenheim and all the people that have all the money. 456 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 5: But I just think that Andrew Freeman deserves a lot 457 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: of love because they're doing it at both ends. They 458 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: have good players coming through their system, and they're and 459 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: and they're also you know, buying good quality players and 460 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 5: putting themselves in a position to have a lot of success. 461 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: And players want to be there. Players want to be 462 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 3: part of that culture, that winning culture, top to bottom. 463 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: It's a great place to play. 464 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Dodgers Stadium is one of my favorite places 465 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: to go to, no doubt. So, Jim, you mentioned the 466 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: Dodgers going into the Asian you know, really hammering that 467 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Asian market. The Phillies on Friday Night make a move 468 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: that might not have great short term implications, but it 469 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: might have greater long term implications. I think they hope 470 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: both happened they signed a right hander from Japan, Cooyo 471 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: a O Yagi. 472 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 4: I think pretty good. 473 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: Yagiu he is. 474 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: He is a nine year pro from Japan. He's a 475 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: side armed arrighty. They signed him to a minor league 476 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: contract with an invitation of big league camp. He's a 477 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: non roster invitee coming to big league camp. He's the first, really, 478 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's the first Japanese, you know, major leaguer 479 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: that they've signed in franchise history. And if he if 480 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: he makes the team this year at some point, it's 481 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: not guarantee he'll make the team coming out of camp, 482 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: but if he makes a team at some point, he'll 483 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: only be the third player Japanese player in Phillies history, 484 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: along with Tadahito Guchi and Sotaguchi. They were on that 485 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: those seven eight teams. And this is something that the 486 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: Phillies have been trying to get into. They years ago 487 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: they tried to convince Sho hey Otani to meet. They 488 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: made a big presentation crickets and then they finally heard 489 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: that he wasn't interested. They had a meeting with Yoshinobu 490 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Yamamoto last year, last offseason, but they came out of 491 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: that going this guy does not want to play for us, 492 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: you know, but they made a strong offer anyway, and 493 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: then Roki Sasaki, they made a presentation, they made a pitch, 494 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: and he basically said, you know, I'm not interested in 495 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: meeting with you guys. So those big top stars have 496 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: not been interested in Philadelphia or the Phillies. But maybe 497 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: this is if Aoyagi comes in, maybe at some point 498 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: down the road they start signing a few more of 499 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: these Japanese players. 500 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: That's the hope anyway. 501 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: So what they hope short term is is that this 502 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: guy comes in. He's a side armor, where they thought 503 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: that was really attractive. You don't see a lot of 504 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: side armors in the big leagues. Maybe that different look 505 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: could provide some benefit in the bullpen. He could be 506 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: he's started, he's relieved. He maybe he could be a 507 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: swingman this year. What was your guys reaction to this signing? 508 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: Ah oh e Yagi. 509 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's a minor league deal. You take a 510 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: look see if maybe he can contribute. Obviously he got 511 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: some experience, but I think they're probably looking at it 512 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: further down the road in terms of building relationships over there, 513 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: maybe spreading their their brands a little bit over there 514 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 3: and trying to become a player eventually if in the 515 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: Japanese market. So I look at them trying to build 516 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 3: a little bit of a foothold, and if they can 517 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: get some contribution from him maybe in the bullpen here 518 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, then it's a good thing. 519 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: Hey. So here's a couple of things unpack. 520 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: I know Sal Agustinelli who has was a long time 521 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: scouting international Scouting director, he's now a supervisor now it's 522 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 5: Derek Chung and he has you know, he and you 523 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 5: know guys like Jorge Bolandia. They've been working hard to 524 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 5: try to get into that international mark, get and to 525 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 5: and to get a placehold, a placeholder there in some 526 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: way shape or form and have a presence. And I 527 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: think this is one one way to start that ball 528 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 5: rolling we tried, you know, we did years ago. I 529 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: went over there and saw Tony Uh pitch and Uh 530 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: and play, saw some other guys there during the course 531 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: of that visit with went with Sal and and also 532 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: Charlie Manual is an icon there. Couldn't really make the 533 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 5: inroads that were necessary, and I think this is a 534 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 5: one way to try to do that hopefully for the organization. 535 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 5: The other part of that is I like the fact 536 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 5: that you have a little bit of variety. It's a 537 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: side armor as he talked about Todd, and I think 538 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 5: different looks in the bullpen are important. You got to 539 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: get people out. But that said, if there's a specialty 540 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 5: that he can do, if he's really really tough on 541 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: right handers, it looks from the site, you know, having 542 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 5: watched some of the film on him, I don't know 543 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 5: all the numbers that are ASSOCIATIOND associated with it, but 544 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: it gives them just a different looking pen that they 545 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 5: have not had really consistently. He's not quite like camp 546 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 5: Ta Kolby all the way down there or Quizenberry, but 547 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 5: he does give him a little bit of a different 548 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 5: look from the side, and uh, you know, who knows, 549 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 5: maybe maybe he can give them a little bit more 550 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 5: depth in that in that bullpen, which is something that 551 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 5: they need. 552 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. 553 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: I think the Phillies analytics team like the fact that 554 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: that armslot was way down low and might provide, like 555 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: you said, rubin a different look. You know, But you 556 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: guys mentioned the long term aspect. The Japanese manager of 557 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic team was in camp last spring 558 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: Hedeki Kurayama, and I had I had like one question 559 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: ask him. He was he was kind of on the move, 560 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, how are the Phillies viewed 561 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: over there? And he said, obviously, the Yankees and Dodgers 562 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: are the best known teams in Japan, but the Phillies 563 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: are also a well known team at this time. And 564 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask a follow up in his his 565 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: introputes like he's got to go. But point being that 566 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: that's the challenge the Phillies face right now is the 567 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Dodgers and the Yankees. Everybody in Japan knows that Dodgers 568 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: and the Yankees, and people kind of know the Phillies 569 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, but they don't know them enough to 570 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: go like that's the place I want to go. 571 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: I want to go to Philadelphia. 572 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: If you're a Japanese player, you want to go to 573 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: la you want to go to San Diego, you want 574 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: to go to Seattle, or you want to go to 575 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: New York. 576 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 3: So you know, how you get you get more well 577 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: known in Japan. It's it's a three letter word. 578 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 9: When not when baby, just win, you win, and that 579 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 9: that's how you grow your brand and get recognizable all 580 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 9: over the globe. 581 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: You rattle off, you know a lot of winds in October, 582 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: that stadium shaken, have a parade. That's what Ultimately, that's 583 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: ultimately the reason why these guys want to be Dodgers 584 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: because they you know, because these deferrals are tell me this, 585 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: these deferrals are not with interest, right, So the player 586 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: is I want to win, Okay, you can defer some 587 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: of my money, and that's what attracts players. And I 588 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: just wanted to point out with that this is not 589 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: the first time the Phillies have signed a Japanese picture 590 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: minor league contract. 591 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Well, that's you're what, You're right, You're right, Okay, I. 592 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: Was Actually I think Ruben, you were still playing or 593 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: you may have just gone Actually you might have just 594 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: gone into the front office. So you were probably part 595 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: of the signing. But do you remember in the late 596 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: nineties or maybe two thousand, you guys signed a right hander. 597 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: He was a minor league pitcher in Japan. His name 598 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: was Tomo Uchiyama. 599 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I do remember that. 600 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: Actually he was I just remember that he's still at 601 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: Jack Russell Stadium and he showed up and he was 602 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: so excited to be there. He used to wear his 603 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: jacket back to the hotel Philly. And then so Francona 604 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: was the manager, and there's Tomo Uchiyama, and there was 605 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: you know, there was a few Japanese writers in camp 606 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: following him around. I think they came over from Tampa 607 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: because that's where a lot of the Japanese writers hung 608 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: out with the Yankees. So Tomo Uchiyama is going to 609 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 3: pitch against the Twins down in Fort Myers and uh, 610 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: these Japanese, a couple of Japanese writers go down to 611 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: the game and Uchiyama gets kind of knocked around a 612 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: little bit. And after the game, we're in the cumpbouse, 613 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: you know, that little cinder block office in that stadium, 614 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: and uh in Fort Myers. Todd, Yeah, we're in that 615 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: little cinder block office talking to Frankcona, and one of 616 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: the Japanese writers goes, what did you think of Tom's 617 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: lousy performance? And goes, wow, I thought these guys were tough, 618 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: pointing to us. The kid ended up pitching at reading 619 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: that year. 620 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 5: So that was actually my last year in Major League 621 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 5: Baseball before I went into the front office. Uh, look 622 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 5: back on some of the numbers and it was a ninety. 623 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: I get picture. 624 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 5: I think you're right pitching in reading, but I think 625 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: he only pitched for that year and it was Jim. 626 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 627 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: I remember, I think I remember talking to you last 628 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: fall when the Phillies were pursuing Yamamoto and you said 629 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned that guy. 630 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: So I misspoke for sure that if he. 631 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Makes it, well, if he makes the team, that he 632 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: would be the third Japanese player. 633 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 3: But this guy never pitched in the big league, right, right, 634 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: And I think that signing was the exact, you know, 635 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: kind of similar in some regards. They were trying to 636 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: get a foothold over there, right and just trying to 637 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 3: break the ice. And I'm sure this guy, because he 638 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: pitched in the big leagues, is he has a chance 639 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: to break more ice than I do. 640 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 5: Want to say one thing about the about you know, 641 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: setting that the Phillies do have star power. I mean 642 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: you start to start thinking about some of the superstars 643 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 5: on their team. They got Bryce Harper, you got Trey Turner, 644 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 5: and you got probably the best starting pitcher in baseball, 645 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 5: and Zach Wheeler. 646 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: And the world knows it. 647 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you got great, great, players kylesh Warber also 648 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 5: obviously prodigious run numbers. 649 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: You know that that makes makes them very popular. There's 650 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: some star power, and I think that the that the. 651 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 5: Japanese folks, I guarantee you that they know who the 652 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 5: Phillies are because they come close and they've been in 653 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 5: the playoffs and they probably should have won a couple 654 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: of World Series in the last couple of years, have 655 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 5: not done that. But you're right, Jim, they do have 656 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 5: to continue to win to create that, to create that 657 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 5: footprint there. 658 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: I agree with you on the star power. I mean, 659 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: there was that young right fielder from Japan. I think 660 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: he went to the Red Sox, right Todd, and he 661 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: was his favorite player was Bryce Harper. 662 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 663 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: Well Bryce Harper wanted to meet Bryce Harper. So no 664 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: question they resonate over there. But the big attraction for 665 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: players is still a win. 666 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: Baby. 667 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: They want to be part of a winner. Tell you, yeah. 668 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: The Phillies played the Dodgers, meet the Dodgers in the 669 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: postseason this year and just run rough shot over the 670 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: mighty powerhouse Dodgers. You people know the Phillies a little 671 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: bit a little bit better as well, that's right. 672 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: If the Phillies going to Dodgers Stadium and take down 673 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: the Dodgers in the NLCS, I fully expect Otani to 674 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: demand a trade the. 675 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 5: Philadelphia I lost my headphones on that one. 676 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: I love it. 677 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: That is great. 678 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: So let's wrap it up with this. 679 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: The great Bob Yucker passed away on Thursday at the 680 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: age of ninety. For me, of course, a kid that 681 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: grew up in Milwaukee, that was a huge loss. I 682 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: spent all day Thursday and Friday just watching highlights of. 683 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: His some of his calls with the Brewers. Growing up. 684 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: I can still recite some of his most famous calls 685 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Back when I was a kid, 686 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: I would like take I would like record the postgame 687 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: show after some big games, and I would just play those. 688 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: Calls over and over and over again. 689 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: When Dale Swam hit a walk off home run to 690 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: beat the Rangers on Easter Sunday in nineteen eighty seven 691 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: to give them a twelve game winning streak to start 692 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: the season, when Paul Malder got the thirty ninth hit 693 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: of his thirty nine game hitting streak, I was at 694 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: that game and that went, you know tape that call, 695 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: and I would just listen to it over and over 696 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: and over again because it just gave me goosebumps. Got 697 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: to meet him a couple of times, got to interview 698 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: him once. 699 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: It was a great excuse. 700 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: I wrote a book on the Phillies in two thousand 701 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: and eight, and it was kind of like, you know, 702 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: a little greatest worst moments in Philly's history, random stories. 703 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: I said, oh my gosh, I am going to try 704 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: to get an interview with Bob Yucher. And it was 705 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: literally the only reason was so I could talk with 706 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Bob Yuker, and he told some fantastic Philly stories. 707 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: His recall was great. 708 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: In fact, Rubin, he was talking about the teams he 709 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: played on, and I found the transcript the other day 710 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: and I wrote about it in my Phillies Beat newsletter. 711 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: But one of the quotes I didn't use that he 712 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: mentioned was he's like going through all the players that 713 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: he played with, and he mentioned your dad as one 714 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: of the guys, Like we had everywhere, we cook it 715 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: Ross on that game. We had Ruben Tomorrow on that team, 716 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, So that was that was pretty cool. So 717 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: rip Bob Yucher one of the all time greatest. I mean, 718 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to some of the calls. 719 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Go back and watch some of the Miller like commercials. 720 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I must be in the front row. 721 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: Just legendary commercial. Go back and watch. Go find some 722 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: Norm McDonald clips of him with David Letterman and whatnot. 723 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 3: You will. 724 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: Die from laughter. So great. So one of my all 725 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: time favor is huge loss for me in for baseball. 726 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: He was a legend. 727 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: The Miller Like commercial of the All Star Softball Game 728 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: is the greatest commercial ever. You have to find that. 729 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: It was like a minute long. It was a long commercial. 730 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: But you know they're gonna pinch hit with Uker and 731 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: they decided no, no, no. It's such a great the 732 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: people in that commercial. It just makes you belly laugh. 733 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 3: The light being All Star Softball Game. Dick Williams and 734 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: Billy Martin. 735 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: And John Madden is in it, right, not in. 736 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: Frank Robertson from the Hockey World Boom boom, Jeffreon, Nicky Splaine, 737 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: Rodney Dangerfield is the closer lit up. 738 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 2: That's right. Rodney did get lit up in that game. 739 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 4: That was great. 740 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: You should tell the story Todd about the book you 741 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 3: were reading in grade school. 742 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so in seventh grade. 743 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: It was such a huge Bob I mean, Bob Bucker 744 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: was He was Harry Callous of Milwaukee. Just to kind 745 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: of put that into perspective, So Bob wrote a book, 746 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: uh when I was in grade school, and it was 747 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: called The Catcher in the Rye w r Y. And 748 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: so I'm in class in seventh grade. I'm reading this 749 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: book and my teacher, missus Joyce, comes up and goes, oh, Dodd, 750 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: are you reading Ketcher in the Rye? Thinking it's the JD. 751 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: Salinger classic? You know what seventh grader is reading Catcher 752 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: in the Rye. 753 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 4: R Ye my JD. 754 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: Salinger? 755 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: And I go, yes, I am, and she then she 756 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: kind of looks. 757 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: She goes, who's that on the what's that on the cover? 758 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: And it's Bob Buker wearing this gaudy plaid you know, 759 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: early eighties jacket in a bar. 760 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 2: With a baseball bat, and I go, I go, it's 761 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: Bob Yucker. 762 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: And then she read the cover more closely and saw 763 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: I was Catcher in the Rye wry and she. 764 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 4: Just looked away. 765 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: She was so bummed and disappointed. She thought she had 766 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: really connected with this student. Hit on the student who 767 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: was reading J. D. 768 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: Salader as seventh grader, but I was reading something much better, 769 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: and I was reading Bob Yucker as a seventh grader. 770 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 5: I mean, it's to think about Bob Yucker. And you 771 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: talked about this comparison to Harry Callus. Yes, and regionally 772 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 5: that's what Harry meant to hear in Philadelphia. 773 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 4: But in a lot of ways he made it. It 774 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: became a national international star. 775 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 5: You know, all those times on Johnny Carson, what was 776 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 5: over one hundred times one of his favorite guests, you know, 777 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 5: mister Belvidere. I mean, the man like parlaid his ineptitude 778 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: as a player into being one of the more entertaining 779 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 5: casters of all time, and just a fun guy to 780 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 5: be around. 781 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 4: I mean, just a really really cool person to be around. 782 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 5: And and uh it's he was a tremendous ambassador to 783 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 5: the game. So sad to see him go, but so 784 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 5: grateful to be able to have had him because he 785 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 5: made our game more fun for everybody. 786 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 4: In a lot of ways. 787 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 5: I mean that call when he was in Major League 788 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: just the outside, I mean, come on, I mean, it's 789 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 5: it's just so many of them. 790 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 4: There's so many. 791 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 5: Sayings that that that sometimes I'll use them the broadcast, 792 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 5: just that it comes into my mind. I mean, you know, 793 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 5: every once in a while, you know, you think about 794 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: some of the things that he said, and they just 795 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 5: popping into your head when the game goes on. But uh, 796 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: just not just a national or you know, not just 797 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 5: a regional uh star and reporter and broadcaster, but a 798 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 5: but but internationally he was famous. 799 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. 800 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: He was the best man. He will be he will definitely. Yeah, 801 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: the Philly Show, guys, we'll be back later this week. 802 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: We'll have more Phillies talk. So try to squeeze us 803 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: in between all the Eagles talk. You gotta you gotta 804 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: break it up a little bit, right. 805 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 4: Fellas, Yeah, no doubt. 806 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 5: We got some guests coming, man, I guarantee you we've 807 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 5: got some good ones coming too. 808 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 9: We got Jalen Hurts right Friday, we got Yeah, we're 809 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 9: not limiting ourselves to just Jayleen. 810 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 7: We're gonna we had Charles. 811 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 4: Now, we're gonna have these you. 812 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: Knowles, Eagles pr hooked us up. 813 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna bring them on before the biggest, one of 814 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: the biggest games of their lives. 815 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'll way, I'll smell you guys later. 816 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 3: Smell of MoES. 817 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: Smell It Jim. 818 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 819 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: Territory Network. 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