WEBVTT - #682 Packers Unscripted: Breakdowns in Buffalo 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:10.440 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.920 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.439 by my trusted colleague Weston had Kowitz. We're coming to 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.800 you here from our studios at lambeau Field West, Unfortunately, 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.760 here to talk about another loss for the Green Bay Packers, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.920 fourth in a row. The final was seventeen in Buffalo 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.280 on Sunday Night Football and a different pattern to this 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.879 game from previous weeks. The Packers got off to a 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.240 terrible start, fell behind fourteen nothing seven at the half, 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.199 and that was just way too big a hole to 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.800 try to climb out of against a team that I 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.040 believe is going to represent the a f C in 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.159 the Super Bowl. Whether they do or not, they are 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.840 a bona fide Super Bowl contender in the Buffalo Bills. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.640 You can't play from behind against that bunch. No, And 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.280 it was the big comment that a lot of guys 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.280 in locker room, including Rasul Douglas, talked about afterwards, is 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.440 that you can't spot a team like that points. I 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.040 mean in the way that it went for Green Bay. 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.880 Two was probably the most frustrating because once again the 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.400 defense got a three and out right off the bat. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.920 I mean, but you know, even the Packers were able 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.040 to move the ball a little bit, but then they 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.440 hit those dull drums. In those dull drums last a 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.520 quarter and a half and second half started, they were 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.480 able to turn the tide a little bit, but offensively. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.600 In Matt Lafleur touched on Monday, this was a game 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.800 where Green Bay ran the ball really well, They controlled 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.479 the time of possession, they actually won the turnover battle. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.440 But what was the biggest issue. Too many explosive plays 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.080 allowed and the Bills being able to generate points basically 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.200 off all those explosives. Yeah, I think for me, you know, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.360 you always look at these games, and it really is 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.920 true that games in the NFL come down to a 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.280 handful of place all the time, right, And there's certainly 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.559 that that handful for me, off the top of my head. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.640 The Packers have two fourth downs, two four and shorts 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.040 that are in Buffalo territory where they get stopped come 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.160 up short. That was potentially taking points off the board 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.640 early in the game. You get Buffalo in a third 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.880 and fourteen when the Bills are in scoring territory and 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.639 Josh Allen's able to get out of the pocket, scrambled 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.080 for twenty yards, puts them in uh, you know, first 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.560 and goal, and then they ultimately score touchdown. That's a 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.200 four point play because it's a touchdown ends up being 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.440 a touchdown instead of a field goal. And then the 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.600 Packers getting a touchdown wiped out on the offensive past 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:31.480 interference call on Robert Tunyan. That's another four point play 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.680 because the Packers end up settling for a field goal 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.280 on that drive instead of getting a touchdown. Those are 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.040 the types of things that that add up. It's it's 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.640 always it's those handful of plays that you look that 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.200 you look back at with regrets, where yes, even though 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.200 the Packers were down seventeen and they were down multiple 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.680 scores as they were trying to come back the entire 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.080 second half, it's those key plays that happened along the 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.280 way that that just make that hill so much harder 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.560 to climb. Yeah, and and for the Green Bay Packers, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.880 I mean, when you fall behind to seven and the 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.639 second half starts and they're able to you know, you're 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.240 gonna get the ball, You're gonna have some opportunities. But 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.359 the problem is when you are in a position where 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.880 you are playing from behind against a defensive again of 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.200 that caliber, against an offense of that caliber, it makes 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.919 you make difficult decisions. Case in point, Buffalo is really 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.320 prodigious for being able to defend the run out of 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.880 their nickel defense. Well, why does that matter? It matters 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.560 because it makes it so that you're not able to 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.960 run as much, maybe two minutes, as you would being 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.120 down three scores going into the second half. You know, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.080 the Packers ran the ball really well, but they kind 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.800 of had to make an unaccustomed, uh difficult sort of 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.680 change a pace comeback where you're running the ball a lot. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.280 You're emphasizing that because again you're giving what the defense is. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.560 You know, you're taking what they're giving you, but it 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.520 puts you in a position where the clock is your 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.880 enemy for the entire second half. There were a lot 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.000 of good things that happened in this game for green Bay. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.360 I look at it, you know, and then being eleven 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.640 point dogs or whatever it was, green Bay looked feisty. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.720 They they you know, played to the whistle. You saw 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.320 how competitive this was, how much you know, it got 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.400 a little chippy between the two teams. This was not 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.839 a team that was lying down by any means. But 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.599 the problem is, Mike, because I illustrated our inbox inside 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.880 your inbox column, Packers could have been six and one, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.839 seven and oh going into this game. They might still 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.320 have been the dogs going into this just based on 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.640 the way that Buffalo has been playing and how they've 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.919 won these games, especially at home. But when you lose 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.320 to Washington, when you fall in the second half in 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.000 London and dropped that game against the Giants, you have 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.280 to find a way to get these games back. And 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.719 for the Packers, as far as consistency was concerned being 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.040 able to move the ball through the air, there were 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.680 not enough of those little things that happened in this 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.920 game to be able to pull off that upset. Yeah. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.200 I like what you said though about the Packers sort 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.599 of the fight and the dog, so to speak. That 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.159 the Packers showed and and I think that I think 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.280 that showed up because the Packers were running the ball 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.880 and they were taking it to the number one rushing 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.240 defense in the league. Yes, Buffalo was playing both of 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.880 its safety's back, but that's what they've done all season, 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.120 and they've still stopped the run. They've been the best 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.200 run defense in the league, and the Packers piled up 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.719 two hundred and eight yards on the ground, a hundred 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.400 and ninety seven of them from Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon, 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.200 with Jones leading the way with a hundred and forty 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.640 three yards. The number of seven eight nine yard runs 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.680 coupled with you know, I believe it was a twenty 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.960 seven yard run by Dill in, a thirty two yard 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.920 run by Jones. You had some other eleven and thirteen 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.679 yard runs sprinkled in there the Packers. The Packers showed 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.240 their fight by lining up and really trying to just 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.400 run it right at them. And I think if there's, if, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.440 if there's a silver lining that you take out of 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.760 this game, that's what it is. Because the Packers showed 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.960 they can run the ball against a really good run defense. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.440 They can build they can build their offense around that. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.320 But as both Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers said after 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.440 the game, you also you still have to be able 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.640 to push the ball down the field through the air 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.040 at the crucial moments, and that's what the Packers need 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.440 to find. As Romeo Dobbs continues to play, as Samari 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.760 tour A, who got his first NFL touchdown, and Dobbs 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.400 made a couple of spectacular catches in this game. Dobbs 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.159 looked like the Dobbs that we saw in training camp. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.039 Every day. He was making plays like that in training camp, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.560 and I know the fans don't get to see that 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.520 unless you're there at practice. We were seeing him making 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.640 those kind of plays every day in camp, which is 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.800 why we were talking about him so much. And he 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.240 made two of those um against Buffalo on Sunday night. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.279 So there are some of those signs moving forward. But 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.600 the Packers are also still dealing with the injuries that 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.320 receiver Lizard missed the game, Cobb is still on I R. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.920 And Christian Watson, who was going to be a big 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.960 part of this game plan, um ends up taking a 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.000 helmet to helmet shot on the opening possession of the game, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.880 and uh and he exits with a cushion, And fortunately 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.880 it sounds like Watson is okay. But that was a 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.320 big blow for this offense with what they had built 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.919 into the game plan for the rookie Watson well, first 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.400 and foremost, looking at from a humanistic standpoint, so relieving 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.680 to hear that Christian Watson is doing fine, because anytime 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.160 you see a guy go down in the middle of 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.320 the field, and unfortunately you and I've seen it too 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.320 many times over the last ten years. Um, your your 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.560 heart kind of gets up in your throat a little bit. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.680 And you know, they had the backboard out there for 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.920 a second. I mean, obviously they're trying to diagnose what's 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.040 going on here and making sure his neck is fine. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.600 To see him pop up and then to get that 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.400 report from Matt Laflora. As disappointed as Dobbs was out, 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.720 or excuse me, Watson was afterwards, it was great to 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.240 hear that he's doing okay. You said, Dobbs looked like 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.840 he did during training camp. I'm gonna go even one 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.840 step further. I felt like all those receivers at the 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.080 end of the game started looking like themselves in training 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.680 camp again. Samory to point Dobbs was the star from 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.040 the off season program on Samori to ray made some 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.200 incredible plays in training camp to be able to work 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.840 off schedule with Rogers there and get down field open 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.760 for that touchdown. Even Rogers said a week earlier he 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.040 had one catch for four yards. But Rodgers in this offense, 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.560 they liked the things he was doing with the opportunities 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.480 he got. You know, Jason v Abel, the Packers receivers coach, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.840 even said, you know after his first play where he 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.320 went out there and just executed his assignment, was involved 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.920 in a past play, but executed his assignment. How excited 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.280 that young man was about it. And then also a 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.840 Marie Rogers, I know things have been kind of rough 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.280 here at times for him as a punt returner. I 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.040 think the last two weeks he's shown you what he 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.880 can offer and what we've seen at times from him 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.640 as a receiver. He's a confident young receiver and being 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.400 able to make that play down the sideline, pretty simple 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:39.960 go route, you know, just trying to get up on 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.040 top of the defense. He made the catch when it 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.440 was put right on him. He showed he He is 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.040 also showing he's a reliable blocker as absolutely running game 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.679 as well. That's another thing that is going to regardless 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.880 of where things are on special teams. Right now with 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.040 a Marie Rogers, he's starting to earn himself more playing time. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:02.080 Obviously tour a too off schedule play as on you 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.040 know late in the fourth quarter there with Rogers, the 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:05.960 one the throw was a little short and you know, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.720 he was almost able to get it on the dive 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.000 coming back to the ball um, but that one was incomplete. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.800 But he makes essentially a route adjustment UM and uh, 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.920 you know, sees it the same way Aaron Rodgers does 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.959 and boom thirty seven yard touchdown because he adjusted his 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.000 route into the void in the coverage and he was 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.040 wide open and Rodgers was totally comfortable just letting it 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.960 rip right. So those are the kinds of things, Those 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.560 are the kinds of things that you like to see. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.960 And we'll see, we'll see what happens moving forward. Unfortunately, 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.760 the Packers are three and five and starting to get 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.640 behind the eight ball here a little bit. Two games 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.160 under five UM for the first time under Matt Lafleur, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.600 which I think in some respects we we we need 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.040 to tip a cap of respect to that that Matt 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.880 Lafleurs in his fourth year as head coach, the middle 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.720 of his fourth year as head coach, and it's the 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.360 first time we're talking about the Green May Packers being 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:04.880 two games under five. But that said, Packers also dealing 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:09.319 with UM or dealt with in the game some other injuries. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.679 Elton Jenkins sort of a last minute decision was unable 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.800 to go, got his foot stepped on in practice late 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.320 last week, ended up being questionable on the injury report, 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.120 and then when inactives were announced ninety minutes before kickoff, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.320 that foot was just not good enough to go. So 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.760 rookie Zach tom who made his first NFL start at 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.680 left tackle in Washington the previous week, Um steps in 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.520 and starts at left guard for Jenkins, and on the 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.840 defensive side, Davandre Campbell exits with a knee injury, and 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.600 then the Packers also lose uh fellow inside linebacker Quay 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.920 Walker to an ejection a lack of discipline there on 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.240 the sideline, which which was very upsetting for Matt Lafleur 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.600 and and certainly put this defense in a bind. I 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.839 give credit to Isaiah McDuffie and Eric Wilson. They went 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.280 in there as the two inside linebackers. It wasn't as 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.760 though there were some you know, glaring weakness or gaping 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.320 holes or anything like that in terms of how they played. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.000 But losing Deveandre Campbell sounds like it's not a long 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.160 term injury, which is good news, But losing Deveandre Campbell 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.160 is uh, you know what was a big blow to 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.520 this defense because we saw in Washington and Quay Walker 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.079 to that extent to those two guys played really really 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.520 well in Washington, and then now when you really needed 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.920 him against against an offense like the Buffalo Bills, you 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.520 didn't have either guy. Yeah, and and unfortunate for for 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.720 Campbell where he makes such a big game breaking play, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.560 you feel like that could really be the ascent for 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.199 him on the season. And then and then he gets 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.160 knocked out by that injury. I don't want to say, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.280 you know you You mentioned Isaam McDuffie, the performance he had, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.000 and Eric Wilson, who has been here for less than 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.760 a month, certainly played a lot of football in this 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.040 league and alot of defense. Was a sixteen game starter 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.679 from Minnesota number of years ago. But uh, going in 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.600 there and only giving up three points in the second half, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.680 it sounded like there was maybe one call that was 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.360 he was a little late getting in, but for the 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.839 most part, being able to relay that defense and then 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.280 play the positions um critical for what Green Bay was 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.600 able to do in the second half. Another another young 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.000 guy that started to prove himself in training camp in 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.439 in the preseason this year and Isaiah McDuffie had to 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.920 step in there in a tough situation. Credit to him, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.240 he handled it well. Yeah, And you know, you look 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.640 at the situation with Walker and I was in the 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.320 locker room and was one of the first ones to 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.440 kind of to get into the breach so to speak, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.840 when we get in there, and quite to his you know, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.719 I give a lot of respect for the young man 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.600 and how he handled it. It was very emotional. But 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.839 sat in his locker and waited for the media to 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.760 get in there, you know, talk to the media for 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.360 about two and a half minutes and then kind of 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:41.880 was overcome by emotion and I couldn't continue, so to speak. Um, 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.000 But his big thing was, and you can read the stories, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.560 you can see all that stuff, but the understanding of 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.120 how he fits into this puzzle and that it's not 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.920 just him, it's his football team. And this was the 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.000 perfect example of why you can't put yourself in that 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:00.679 situation because the worst case scenario is realized when deve 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.720 Andre Campbell has to go out of the game. Isaiah 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.840 McDuffie originally goes in as the will next to Campbell, 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.560 and then suddenly he's in the micro role when when 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.720 Walker is unavailable. So those are the type of things 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.960 that you have to do because the thing that's underrated 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.640 Mike is you know, Quays had to take a couple 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.360 of shots on the chin this year. It's a rookie 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.079 getting used to it. But when he's moving and he's 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.440 playing instinctually, he gets sidelined to sideline fast and he 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.880 can collapse and fill u There's been a lot to 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.880 like about his rookie season so far, and the Packers 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.800 need him on the field. Gyr Alexander said it after 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.240 the game he talked to him about He's like, you know, 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:33.720 you just gotta you gotta be able to keep your 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.840 emotions in check because we need you out there. We 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.320 need you. You're one of the best players on this 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.440 defense and we're not the same without you. Yeah, here's 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.000 the question I want to ask you with regard to 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.760 the defense, because we talked about obviously with the running game, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.800 what that showed offensively, hopefully something to look forward to. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.040 We're seeing the rookie receivers continue to develop despite a 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.040 four game losing streak, which is not fun for anybody. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.640 But here's my question with regard to the defense. Last 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.480 week in Washington. We saw the pick six by Campbell. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.160 We saw a fumble six that was unfortunately overturned by 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.679 a penalty. Other interception opportunities they didn't quite come up with. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.880 Against Buffalo, Josh Allen got a little careless with the ball. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.240 In the second half, the Packers got two interceptions. There 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.440 was actually another I think it was on the very 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.600 first drive, that opening three and out. Alexander had a 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.200 shot at an interception there in the first quarter. I'm wondering, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.600 is is the worm starting to turn, so to speak, 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.840 with regard to turnovers with this Packers defense? Is it something? 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.800 Is it something that's potentially pointing in the right direction 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.040 that can help to uh, that can help this defense 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.720 start to generate some momentum and play the way it 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.880 wants to. The reversal of fortune started on the Douglas 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.680 pick because for whatever reason, Greenby has not had those 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.360 opportunities this year. Now, Aaron Rodgers, you and I get 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.000 spoiled watching him play the position. He doesn't make a 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.360 lot of you know, dumb decisions with the football in 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.960 terms of basically throwing it to the opposition. For whatever reason, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.400 Greenby has faced us lou of backups of slow of 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.600 unproven guys, but they haven't really gotten those opportunities despite 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.480 the fact there's been a decent amount of pressure on 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.720 the opposing quarterback. Finally, Alan scrambles out of the pocket 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.080 and just makes a completely ill advised pass to Resul Douglas. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.520 The difficult thing about defensive back position because everybody likes 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.640 to rip on oh well, that's they play cornerback for 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.000 a reason. Well, they're also not the intended target. It 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.560 is difficult when the opponent is not trying to get 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.600 you the football and you have an opportunity in that 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.120 moment to be able to grab it. You need to 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.840 do it the best do it, but it's not a given. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.840 But for whatever reason, Green Bay just is really those opportunities, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.880 the ones where you're just playing your position and you 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.160 get the ball. Those haven't happened this year for the 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.760 most part, so that was good to see from douglass case. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.000 Of course, the ball gets turned back over to Buffalo 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.840 on the very next play and then Alexander makes a 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.200 play on a ball. They start getting that stuff figured 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.120 out a little bit. That was good to see because 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.560 you're not going to play Josh Allen every week. You're 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.680 going to see guys that aren't of that m v 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.520 P type ILK that are in that kind versation with 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.400 a legitimate Super Bowl contender. That's where you want to 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.480 see these turnovers and takeaways start to happen, because if 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.000 you're able to generate big plays off of them, I've 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.080 said for a while, Mike, I felt like this defense, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.600 that's the only thing that's been missing. They got to 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.840 defend the run better. They need to be able to 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.000 get out of those four minute offensive situations better. But 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.120 if they're able to take away the football, I still 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.040 feel like the talent is there that they're going to 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.200 be able to let that snowball a little bit. Yeah, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.120 I mean, those are the types of things we want 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.000 to watch here moving forward as as the Packers try 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.720 to Now, you know, the goal is to is to 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.320 climb yourself back to five hundred at some point here 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.400 right and then and then see where things stand and 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.280 see if you can make a run late in the season. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.000 Still nine games left to go, So two games below 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:47.160 five hundred doesn't put you out of anything, but it does, uh, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.640 it does put you behind, you know, the eight ball 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.520 a little bit because because you just can't let you 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.800 can't let any more losses keep piling up here, four 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.840 in a row, first time in six years the Packers 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.200 of have have been in this position. Yeah, and got 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.560 to get to work. I mean, we'll we'll preview Detroit 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.199 on Thursday a little bit. But you know, people are 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.199 gonna look at that as a one win team. And 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.520 then you look at the way they've played at Ford Field. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.560 I mean they came within three points of being the 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.480 only team that you know has beaten the Philadelphia Eagles 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.320 this year. I mean that's that's the level of which 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.400 they've played at home. Now, they've had some injuries, they've 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.000 had some setbacks, but it is like that there is 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.320 something about that environment that they've been able to carry 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.280 over that has not been there for them on the road. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.720 Now that being said, green Bay's perspective, and I think 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.919 this is the hardest thing right for the Packers, is 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.560 that you played Buffalo so tough. You you did things 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.359 well in that game. You ran the ball well, you 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.480 dedicate yourself to the run a little bit more, and 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.000 it helped open up some passing place. Well. Now on 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.239 Sunday at noon Central time, you got to go back 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.439 from scratch again. You have to go back out there 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.879 and earn it. Over those four quarters. Nothing that you 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.280 did in that game that went well is going to 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.360 carry over, so to speak. You have to be able 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.840 to reset the Packers if there was ever a time 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.680 for them to play as close to four quarter football 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.840 as you can. This is the one you need, because 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:01.920 it doesn't get any easier. Mike when you look at 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.679 the schedule over the next month. Yeah, I think you 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.560 make a good point there, because we're going to talk 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.640 all week about how well the Packers ran the ball 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.719 two eight rushing yards against the number one rushing defense 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.760 in the league. But when that ball is kicked off 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.280 in Detroit on Sunday, the Packers have zero rushing yards 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.080 and you have to earn every single one of them 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.280 and re establish that and prove that the way Aaron 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.560 Jones and a J. Dillon and all those blockers and 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.199 the way they ran the ball in Buffalo was not 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.080 was not just some sort of one off or some 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.040 sort of flute, that this is something that can be 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.720 the foundation of this offense moving forward. As this receiving 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.680 corps continues to be in so much flux in terms 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.800 of the injuries and availability and and UH and young 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.240 players finding their way. So this defense Mike and Detroit 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.960 has been gashed routinely this year, thirty second in the 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.560 league right now in total yards their past defense. They 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.920