1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston had Kowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field West, Unfortunately, 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: here to talk about another loss for the Green Bay Packers, 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: fourth in a row. The final was seventeen in Buffalo 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football and a different pattern to this 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: game from previous weeks. The Packers got off to a 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: terrible start, fell behind fourteen nothing seven at the half, 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: and that was just way too big a hole to 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: try to climb out of against a team that I 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: believe is going to represent the a f C in 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Whether they do or not, they are 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: a bona fide Super Bowl contender in the Buffalo Bills. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: You can't play from behind against that bunch. No, And 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: it was the big comment that a lot of guys 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: in locker room, including Rasul Douglas, talked about afterwards, is 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: that you can't spot a team like that points. I 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: mean in the way that it went for Green Bay. 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Two was probably the most frustrating because once again the 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: defense got a three and out right off the bat. 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, even the Packers were able 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: to move the ball a little bit, but then they 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: hit those dull drums. In those dull drums last a 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: quarter and a half and second half started, they were 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: able to turn the tide a little bit, but offensively. 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: In Matt Lafleur touched on Monday, this was a game 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: where Green Bay ran the ball really well, They controlled 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: the time of possession, they actually won the turnover battle. 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: But what was the biggest issue. Too many explosive plays 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: allowed and the Bills being able to generate points basically 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: off all those explosives. Yeah, I think for me, you know, 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: you always look at these games, and it really is 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: true that games in the NFL come down to a 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: handful of place all the time, right, And there's certainly 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: that that handful for me, off the top of my head. 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: The Packers have two fourth downs, two four and shorts 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: that are in Buffalo territory where they get stopped come 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: up short. That was potentially taking points off the board 40 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: early in the game. You get Buffalo in a third 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: and fourteen when the Bills are in scoring territory and 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's able to get out of the pocket, scrambled 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: for twenty yards, puts them in uh, you know, first 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: and goal, and then they ultimately score touchdown. That's a 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: four point play because it's a touchdown ends up being 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown instead of a field goal. And then the 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: Packers getting a touchdown wiped out on the offensive past 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: interference call on Robert Tunyan. That's another four point play 49 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: because the Packers end up settling for a field goal 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: on that drive instead of getting a touchdown. Those are 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: the types of things that that add up. It's it's 52 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: always it's those handful of plays that you look that 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: you look back at with regrets, where yes, even though 54 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the Packers were down seventeen and they were down multiple 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: scores as they were trying to come back the entire 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: second half, it's those key plays that happened along the 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: way that that just make that hill so much harder 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: to climb. Yeah, and and for the Green Bay Packers, 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean, when you fall behind to seven and the 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: second half starts and they're able to you know, you're 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna get the ball, You're gonna have some opportunities. But 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: the problem is when you are in a position where 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: you are playing from behind against a defensive again of 64 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that caliber, against an offense of that caliber, it makes 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: you make difficult decisions. Case in point, Buffalo is really 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: prodigious for being able to defend the run out of 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: their nickel defense. Well, why does that matter? It matters 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: because it makes it so that you're not able to 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: run as much, maybe two minutes, as you would being 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: down three scores going into the second half. You know, 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: the Packers ran the ball really well, but they kind 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: of had to make an unaccustomed, uh difficult sort of 73 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: change a pace comeback where you're running the ball a lot. 74 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: You're emphasizing that because again you're giving what the defense is. 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: You know, you're taking what they're giving you, but it 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: puts you in a position where the clock is your 77 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: enemy for the entire second half. There were a lot 78 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: of good things that happened in this game for green Bay. 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: I look at it, you know, and then being eleven 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: point dogs or whatever it was, green Bay looked feisty. 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: They they you know, played to the whistle. You saw 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: how competitive this was, how much you know, it got 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: a little chippy between the two teams. This was not 84 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: a team that was lying down by any means. But 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: the problem is, Mike, because I illustrated our inbox inside 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: your inbox column, Packers could have been six and one, 87 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: seven and oh going into this game. They might still 88 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: have been the dogs going into this just based on 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the way that Buffalo has been playing and how they've 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: won these games, especially at home. But when you lose 91 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: to Washington, when you fall in the second half in 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: London and dropped that game against the Giants, you have 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: to find a way to get these games back. And 94 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: for the Packers, as far as consistency was concerned being 95 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: able to move the ball through the air, there were 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: not enough of those little things that happened in this 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: game to be able to pull off that upset. Yeah. 98 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: I like what you said though about the Packers sort 99 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: of the fight and the dog, so to speak. That 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: the Packers showed and and I think that I think 101 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: that showed up because the Packers were running the ball 102 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and they were taking it to the number one rushing 103 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: defense in the league. Yes, Buffalo was playing both of 104 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: its safety's back, but that's what they've done all season, 105 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: and they've still stopped the run. They've been the best 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: run defense in the league, and the Packers piled up 107 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: two hundred and eight yards on the ground, a hundred 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and ninety seven of them from Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon, 109 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: with Jones leading the way with a hundred and forty 110 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: three yards. The number of seven eight nine yard runs 111 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: coupled with you know, I believe it was a twenty 112 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: seven yard run by Dill in, a thirty two yard 113 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: run by Jones. You had some other eleven and thirteen 114 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: yard runs sprinkled in there the Packers. The Packers showed 115 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: their fight by lining up and really trying to just 116 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: run it right at them. And I think if there's, if, 117 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: if there's a silver lining that you take out of 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: this game, that's what it is. Because the Packers showed 119 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: they can run the ball against a really good run defense. 120 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: They can build they can build their offense around that. 121 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: But as both Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers said after 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: the game, you also you still have to be able 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field through the air 124 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: at the crucial moments, and that's what the Packers need 125 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: to find. As Romeo Dobbs continues to play, as Samari 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: tour A, who got his first NFL touchdown, and Dobbs 127 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: made a couple of spectacular catches in this game. Dobbs 128 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: looked like the Dobbs that we saw in training camp. 129 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: Every day. He was making plays like that in training camp, 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: and I know the fans don't get to see that 131 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: unless you're there at practice. We were seeing him making 132 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: those kind of plays every day in camp, which is 133 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: why we were talking about him so much. And he 134 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: made two of those um against Buffalo on Sunday night. 135 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: So there are some of those signs moving forward. But 136 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: the Packers are also still dealing with the injuries that 137 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: receiver Lizard missed the game, Cobb is still on I R. 138 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: And Christian Watson, who was going to be a big 139 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: part of this game plan, um ends up taking a 140 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: helmet to helmet shot on the opening possession of the game, 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: and uh and he exits with a cushion, And fortunately 142 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like Watson is okay. But that was a 143 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: big blow for this offense with what they had built 144 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: into the game plan for the rookie Watson well, first 145 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: and foremost, looking at from a humanistic standpoint, so relieving 146 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: to hear that Christian Watson is doing fine, because anytime 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: you see a guy go down in the middle of 148 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: the field, and unfortunately you and I've seen it too 149 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: many times over the last ten years. Um, your your 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: heart kind of gets up in your throat a little bit. 151 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: And you know, they had the backboard out there for 152 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: a second. I mean, obviously they're trying to diagnose what's 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: going on here and making sure his neck is fine. 154 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: To see him pop up and then to get that 155 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: report from Matt Laflora. As disappointed as Dobbs was out, 156 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: or excuse me, Watson was afterwards, it was great to 157 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: hear that he's doing okay. You said, Dobbs looked like 158 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: he did during training camp. I'm gonna go even one 159 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: step further. I felt like all those receivers at the 160 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: end of the game started looking like themselves in training 161 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: camp again. Samory to point Dobbs was the star from 162 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the off season program on Samori to ray made some 163 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: incredible plays in training camp to be able to work 164 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: off schedule with Rogers there and get down field open 165 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: for that touchdown. Even Rogers said a week earlier he 166 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: had one catch for four yards. But Rodgers in this offense, 167 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: they liked the things he was doing with the opportunities 168 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: he got. You know, Jason v Abel, the Packers receivers coach, 169 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: even said, you know after his first play where he 170 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: went out there and just executed his assignment, was involved 171 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: in a past play, but executed his assignment. How excited 172 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: that young man was about it. And then also a 173 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Marie Rogers, I know things have been kind of rough 174 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: here at times for him as a punt returner. I 175 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: think the last two weeks he's shown you what he 176 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: can offer and what we've seen at times from him 177 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: as a receiver. He's a confident young receiver and being 178 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: able to make that play down the sideline, pretty simple 179 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: go route, you know, just trying to get up on 180 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: top of the defense. He made the catch when it 181 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: was put right on him. He showed he He is 182 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: also showing he's a reliable blocker as absolutely running game 183 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: as well. That's another thing that is going to regardless 184 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: of where things are on special teams. Right now with 185 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: a Marie Rogers, he's starting to earn himself more playing time. 186 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: Obviously tour a too off schedule play as on you 187 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: know late in the fourth quarter there with Rogers, the 188 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: one the throw was a little short and you know, 189 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: he was almost able to get it on the dive 190 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: coming back to the ball um, but that one was incomplete. 191 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: But he makes essentially a route adjustment UM and uh, 192 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, sees it the same way Aaron Rodgers does 193 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: and boom thirty seven yard touchdown because he adjusted his 194 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: route into the void in the coverage and he was 195 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: wide open and Rodgers was totally comfortable just letting it 196 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: rip right. So those are the kinds of things, Those 197 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: are the kinds of things that you like to see. 198 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: And we'll see, we'll see what happens moving forward. Unfortunately, 199 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: the Packers are three and five and starting to get 200 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: behind the eight ball here a little bit. Two games 201 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: under five UM for the first time under Matt Lafleur, 202 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: which I think in some respects we we we need 203 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: to tip a cap of respect to that that Matt 204 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Lafleurs in his fourth year as head coach, the middle 205 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: of his fourth year as head coach, and it's the 206 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: first time we're talking about the Green May Packers being 207 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: two games under five. But that said, Packers also dealing 208 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: with UM or dealt with in the game some other injuries. 209 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins sort of a last minute decision was unable 210 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: to go, got his foot stepped on in practice late 211 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: last week, ended up being questionable on the injury report, 212 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: and then when inactives were announced ninety minutes before kickoff, 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: that foot was just not good enough to go. So 214 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: rookie Zach tom who made his first NFL start at 215 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: left tackle in Washington the previous week, Um steps in 216 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: and starts at left guard for Jenkins, and on the 217 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: defensive side, Davandre Campbell exits with a knee injury, and 218 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: then the Packers also lose uh fellow inside linebacker Quay 219 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Walker to an ejection a lack of discipline there on 220 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: the sideline, which which was very upsetting for Matt Lafleur 221 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: and and certainly put this defense in a bind. I 222 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: give credit to Isaiah McDuffie and Eric Wilson. They went 223 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: in there as the two inside linebackers. It wasn't as 224 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: though there were some you know, glaring weakness or gaping 225 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: holes or anything like that in terms of how they played. 226 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: But losing Deveandre Campbell sounds like it's not a long 227 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: term injury, which is good news, But losing Deveandre Campbell 228 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: is uh, you know what was a big blow to 229 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: this defense because we saw in Washington and Quay Walker 230 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: to that extent to those two guys played really really 231 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: well in Washington, and then now when you really needed 232 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: him against against an offense like the Buffalo Bills, you 233 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't have either guy. Yeah, and and unfortunate for for 234 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: Campbell where he makes such a big game breaking play, 235 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: you feel like that could really be the ascent for 236 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: him on the season. And then and then he gets 237 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: knocked out by that injury. I don't want to say, 238 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you know you You mentioned Isaam McDuffie, the performance he had, 239 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: and Eric Wilson, who has been here for less than 240 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: a month, certainly played a lot of football in this 241 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: league and alot of defense. Was a sixteen game starter 242 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: from Minnesota number of years ago. But uh, going in 243 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: there and only giving up three points in the second half, 244 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: it sounded like there was maybe one call that was 245 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: he was a little late getting in, but for the 246 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: most part, being able to relay that defense and then 247 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: play the positions um critical for what Green Bay was 248 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: able to do in the second half. Another another young 249 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: guy that started to prove himself in training camp in 250 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: in the preseason this year and Isaiah McDuffie had to 251 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: step in there in a tough situation. Credit to him, 252 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: he handled it well. Yeah, And you know, you look 253 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: at the situation with Walker and I was in the 254 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: locker room and was one of the first ones to 255 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: kind of to get into the breach so to speak, 256 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: when we get in there, and quite to his you know, 257 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: I give a lot of respect for the young man 258 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: and how he handled it. It was very emotional. But 259 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: sat in his locker and waited for the media to 260 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: get in there, you know, talk to the media for 261 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: about two and a half minutes and then kind of 262 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: was overcome by emotion and I couldn't continue, so to speak. Um, 263 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: But his big thing was, and you can read the stories, 264 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: you can see all that stuff, but the understanding of 265 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: how he fits into this puzzle and that it's not 266 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: just him, it's his football team. And this was the 267 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: perfect example of why you can't put yourself in that 268 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: situation because the worst case scenario is realized when deve 269 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Andre Campbell has to go out of the game. Isaiah 270 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: McDuffie originally goes in as the will next to Campbell, 271 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: and then suddenly he's in the micro role when when 272 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: Walker is unavailable. So those are the type of things 273 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: that you have to do because the thing that's underrated 274 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: Mike is you know, Quays had to take a couple 275 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: of shots on the chin this year. It's a rookie 276 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: getting used to it. But when he's moving and he's 277 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: playing instinctually, he gets sidelined to sideline fast and he 278 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: can collapse and fill u There's been a lot to 279 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: like about his rookie season so far, and the Packers 280 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: need him on the field. Gyr Alexander said it after 281 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: the game he talked to him about He's like, you know, 282 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: you just gotta you gotta be able to keep your 283 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: emotions in check because we need you out there. We 284 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: need you. You're one of the best players on this 285 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: defense and we're not the same without you. Yeah, here's 286 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: the question I want to ask you with regard to 287 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: the defense, because we talked about obviously with the running game, 288 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: what that showed offensively, hopefully something to look forward to. 289 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: We're seeing the rookie receivers continue to develop despite a 290 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: four game losing streak, which is not fun for anybody. 291 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: But here's my question with regard to the defense. Last 292 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: week in Washington. We saw the pick six by Campbell. 293 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: We saw a fumble six that was unfortunately overturned by 294 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: a penalty. Other interception opportunities they didn't quite come up with. 295 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: Against Buffalo, Josh Allen got a little careless with the ball. 296 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: In the second half, the Packers got two interceptions. There 297 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: was actually another I think it was on the very 298 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: first drive, that opening three and out. Alexander had a 299 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: shot at an interception there in the first quarter. I'm wondering, 300 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: is is the worm starting to turn, so to speak, 301 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: with regard to turnovers with this Packers defense? Is it something? 302 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Is it something that's potentially pointing in the right direction 303 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: that can help to uh, that can help this defense 304 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: start to generate some momentum and play the way it 305 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: wants to. The reversal of fortune started on the Douglas 306 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: pick because for whatever reason, Greenby has not had those 307 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: opportunities this year. Now, Aaron Rodgers, you and I get 308 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: spoiled watching him play the position. He doesn't make a 309 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: lot of you know, dumb decisions with the football in 310 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: terms of basically throwing it to the opposition. For whatever reason, 311 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Greenby has faced us lou of backups of slow of 312 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: unproven guys, but they haven't really gotten those opportunities despite 313 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: the fact there's been a decent amount of pressure on 314 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback. Finally, Alan scrambles out of the pocket 315 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: and just makes a completely ill advised pass to Resul Douglas. 316 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: The difficult thing about defensive back position because everybody likes 317 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: to rip on oh well, that's they play cornerback for 318 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: a reason. Well, they're also not the intended target. It 319 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: is difficult when the opponent is not trying to get 320 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: you the football and you have an opportunity in that 321 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: moment to be able to grab it. You need to 322 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: do it the best do it, but it's not a given. 323 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, Green Bay just is really those opportunities, 324 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the ones where you're just playing your position and you 325 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: get the ball. Those haven't happened this year for the 326 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: most part, so that was good to see from douglass case. 327 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: Of course, the ball gets turned back over to Buffalo 328 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: on the very next play and then Alexander makes a 329 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: play on a ball. They start getting that stuff figured 330 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: out a little bit. That was good to see because 331 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: you're not going to play Josh Allen every week. You're 332 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: going to see guys that aren't of that m v 333 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: P type ILK that are in that kind versation with 334 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: a legitimate Super Bowl contender. That's where you want to 335 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: see these turnovers and takeaways start to happen, because if 336 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: you're able to generate big plays off of them, I've 337 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: said for a while, Mike, I felt like this defense, 338 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: that's the only thing that's been missing. They got to 339 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: defend the run better. They need to be able to 340 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: get out of those four minute offensive situations better. But 341 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: if they're able to take away the football, I still 342 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: feel like the talent is there that they're going to 343 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: be able to let that snowball a little bit. Yeah, 344 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, those are the types of things we want 345 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: to watch here moving forward as as the Packers try 346 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: to Now, you know, the goal is to is to 347 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: climb yourself back to five hundred at some point here 348 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: right and then and then see where things stand and 349 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: see if you can make a run late in the season. 350 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: Still nine games left to go, So two games below 351 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: five hundred doesn't put you out of anything, but it does, uh, 352 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: it does put you behind, you know, the eight ball 353 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: a little bit because because you just can't let you 354 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: can't let any more losses keep piling up here, four 355 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: in a row, first time in six years the Packers 356 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: of have have been in this position. Yeah, and got 357 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: to get to work. I mean, we'll we'll preview Detroit 358 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: on Thursday a little bit. But you know, people are 359 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: gonna look at that as a one win team. And 360 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: then you look at the way they've played at Ford Field. 361 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: I mean they came within three points of being the 362 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: only team that you know has beaten the Philadelphia Eagles 363 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: this year. I mean that's that's the level of which 364 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: they've played at home. Now, they've had some injuries, they've 365 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: had some setbacks, but it is like that there is 366 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: something about that environment that they've been able to carry 367 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: over that has not been there for them on the road. 368 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Now that being said, green Bay's perspective, and I think 369 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: this is the hardest thing right for the Packers, is 370 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: that you played Buffalo so tough. You you did things 371 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: well in that game. You ran the ball well, you 372 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: dedicate yourself to the run a little bit more, and 373 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: it helped open up some passing place. Well. Now on 374 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: Sunday at noon Central time, you got to go back 375 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: from scratch again. You have to go back out there 376 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: and earn it. Over those four quarters. Nothing that you 377 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: did in that game that went well is going to 378 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: carry over, so to speak. You have to be able 379 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: to reset the Packers if there was ever a time 380 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: for them to play as close to four quarter football 381 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: as you can. This is the one you need, because 382 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't get any easier. Mike when you look at 383 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: the schedule over the next month. Yeah, I think you 384 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: make a good point there, because we're going to talk 385 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: all week about how well the Packers ran the ball 386 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: two eight rushing yards against the number one rushing defense 387 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: in the league. But when that ball is kicked off 388 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: in Detroit on Sunday, the Packers have zero rushing yards 389 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: and you have to earn every single one of them 390 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: and re establish that and prove that the way Aaron 391 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: Jones and a J. Dillon and all those blockers and 392 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: the way they ran the ball in Buffalo was not 393 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: was not just some sort of one off or some 394 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: sort of flute, that this is something that can be 395 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: the foundation of this offense moving forward. As this receiving 396 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: corps continues to be in so much flux in terms 397 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: of the injuries and availability and and UH and young 398 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: players finding their way. So this defense Mike and Detroit 399 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: has been gashed routinely this year, thirty second in the 400 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: league right now in total yards their past defense. They 401 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: just made some changes with their I think their cornerbacks coach. 402 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: This is also a weak. We don't know who the 403 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: receivers are going to be at this point in time, 404 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: but this is also weak. You feel like that area 405 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: of the game has to come together to Yeah, and 406 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: we'll definitely talk more about that on on Thursday show 407 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: a little bit of sponsored business here West Serious x 408 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 409 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need two seven, 410 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: three six and at Cousin Subs, we have something for 411 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: everyone like our Wisconsin Cheese Kurds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, 412 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or 413 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs fifty years of better 414 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: all right. Elsewhere in the NFC, just the quick rundown 415 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: on where the top teams are. The Philadelphia Eagles with 416 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: another impressive victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Kind of a 417 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: blowout there in the state of Pennsylvania. Eagles are seven 418 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: and oh, remaining the only undefeated team in the NFL. 419 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: The Cowboys, Um, we're blowing out the Bears. Then it 420 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: got close, then they blew them out again. Um and 421 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: uh So the Cowboys are six and two. The Minnesota 422 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Vikings are six and one, sitting atop the NFC North 423 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: with a very comfortable lead. They beat the Arizona Cardinals 424 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: in in a very back and forth game, but one 425 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: in which the Vikings for the most part, um had 426 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: the lead in the second half. And the uh It's 427 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: interesting because as much as you know, people look at 428 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, surprise, the Packers are three and five, you're surprised. 429 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are three and five. The defending 430 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion l A Rams are below five hundred. 431 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Now the surprise on the other side has got to 432 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: be the Seattle Seahawks. They are five and three with 433 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: Geno Smith at quarterback, and they just handed the New 434 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: York Giants their giants second loss of the season. The 435 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Giants still six and two, sitting in great shape, but 436 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: they went out to Seattle and lost the Seahawks team 437 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: by two touchdowns. The Seattle Seahawks and Pete Carroll Man, 438 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: they are. They are in a position nobody thought they 439 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: would be in as we approached the midway point of 440 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: the seasons. Certainly everybody that was kind of condemned them 441 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: after the Wills and trade, right, I mean, you see 442 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: how those two directions have gone so far. It was 443 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: really fun listening to Pete Carroll uh at his press 444 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: conference this week and was asked about it. This is 445 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: the most fun he's had. You remember that this is 446 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: a seventy year old man, oldest coach in the National 447 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: Football League, and he sounds like a kid. I mean, 448 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, this what's happening with 449 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Gino Smith and even to some extent, what's happening with 450 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: that land On Marcus Mariota right now? That's what makes 451 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: this game fun because as much as it is about 452 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: the guys that you put on the billboard for Sunday 453 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Night Football, it's those type of stories that I think 454 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: are at the real heart of the National Football League. Now. 455 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Are the Seattle Seahawks a Super Bowl contender right now? 456 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't think people would say that, but and you 457 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: don't even know if they're going to be able to 458 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: sustain it with with nine games left to go. I 459 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: mean five and three, that's a great start for them, 460 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: but with nine games left to go, their season could 461 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: go in a gazillion different directions, just like the Pack. 462 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: But with what that division was supposed to be this season, 463 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: that they're even at the top of it right now 464 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: absolutely a strange little victory in and of itself. The 465 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: other surprise I just want to touch on it really 466 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: quickly is the Minnesota Vikings, because I know that the 467 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: quote came out this past week. I believe it was 468 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: from Justin Jefferson talking about how the league is kind 469 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: of sleeping on them so far. I would still say rightfully. So. 470 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: The reason why I say that is not to disrespect 471 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: the Vikings, but they had a slew of changes this offseason. 472 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: They haven't blown out anybody. I mean they're the biggest 473 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: victory was that Week one win over Green Bay. They 474 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: haven't won any other games by two scores yet. I 475 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: don't believe they've beaten anybody with a winning record. Obviously, 476 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: if they're beating teams, they're handing losses to those teams 477 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: are gonna have a harder time getting a winning record. 478 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: That being said, that is a fact they have not 479 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: beaten a team that has a winning record in the 480 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: NFL right now, Detroit, New Orleans, Chicago, and then obviously 481 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Miami with the quarterback issues they had at that point 482 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: in time. It is what it is now. That being said, 483 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: you can only play the teams that are on your schedule. 484 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: As things have been so difficult for the Packers. Things 485 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: have lined up a little bit easier for the Vikings, 486 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: but over the next few weeks, maybe not this Sunday, 487 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: but we will learn something about them. Buffalo, Dallas, Patriots 488 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: and Jets coming up after that. So what does that 489 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: tell you? It tells you the Green Packers if he 490 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: gets some wins, three and a half games back or 491 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: whatever it is in the division right now, that has 492 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: to start this Sunday. It absolutely has to start Sunday 493 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: in Detroit. And we'll talk more about that game on Thursday. 494 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: For now, we'll call it a wrap on this edition 495 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 496 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: coverage of the team all week long. We'll have it 497 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: for you on Packers dot Com. For West, I'm Mike. 498 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in, everybody. See you next time.