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Speaker 1: week our twenty twenty two NFL preseason special. We're getting

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Speaker 1: you ready for Week one with the Vikings rookie head

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Speaker 1: coach Kevin O'Connell. You know he comes from the Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay ram staff, former NFL player. Meanwhile, nobody knows the

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Speaker 1: Browns like Mary kay Cabot messy transition Baker to Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: She's got the inside, plus the volumes. Mike Silver broke

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Speaker 1: a story on Jimmy G. Is there a dark horse

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Speaker 1: looking that makes sense in Jimmy G's future? And how

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Speaker 1: close was Brady from becoming a Raider? Also, Dave wantsed

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Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh Guy nos Chicago too. What do the Bears

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Speaker 1: do with unhappy linebacker Roquan Smith and Steelers Kenny Pick

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Speaker 1: a week one? Should they start him? God? I love football,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kevin. One of the reasons I've picked the

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Speaker 1: Vikings is the most improved team in the league. And

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Speaker 1: I said, listen, this is nothing against Mike Tomlin, Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Mike Zimmer. These are really good coaches, but

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Speaker 1: there is something about offensive coaches and the sensibility and

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Speaker 1: the fridge of quarterbacks. They make a lot of money

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Speaker 1: and they get a lot of criticism. And I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Kirk ever had a guy that

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Speaker 1: it's okay to complain. You've quarterbacked you know this kind

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Speaker 1: of the the ups and downs of it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's you have a bad Sunday, it lives with you.

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Speaker 1: It is hard to get that out of your system.

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Speaker 1: And I said I've said, I think I think he

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Speaker 1: needed an offensive coach. It's no criticism to anybody in

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Speaker 1: this league. Russell, Wilson and Pete struggled at the end,

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady struggled. There is something So when you

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Speaker 1: have your relationship with Kirk, when you sat down the

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Speaker 1: first time, like what did you guys address? What did

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Speaker 1: you How did you connect with him? That's the word

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Speaker 1: you just said at the very end, It's about connecting.

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Speaker 1: I think this. I think offensive football um in our league.

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Speaker 1: I think it always has, but maybe more so than ever,

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Speaker 1: runs through the quarterback position, and runs through the comfort

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback position, not the play caller. You can

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of stuff drawn up on the board

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Speaker 1: that looks really great and try to put it in

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Speaker 1: a game plan, but I think the quarterback ownership of

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Speaker 1: not only the week end and week out plan, but

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Speaker 1: the comfort of being able to be themselves. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not a prerequisite to being successful at this position

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Speaker 1: in this league. But I think, just like as a

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Speaker 1: head coach, just like what I try to do any

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Speaker 1: the most well read stories on the site every single day.

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Speaker 1: So people still have an appetite for Baker Mayfield. Part

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Speaker 1: of that might be because the Browns are playing him

431
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Speaker 1: in the opener, like how can you how can you

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Speaker 1: have a better storyline than that from the from the

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield saga. It's it's really kind of uncanny. But

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Speaker 1: but yeah, so that's part of it. But yes, there

435
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Speaker 1: are people here that really still feel for Baker making well.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, listen two time walk on underdog quality. Cleveland's

437
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: felt beat up. I think for decades in sports by

438
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: the national media, the reputation, there's a certain symmetry. I

439
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: thought with Baker in Cleveland, I just thought I said

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Speaker 1: this early. He was just too snarky. I always feel

441
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Speaker 1: like you can't win the press conference as a quarterback.

442
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: You just have to sometimes fall on the sword. Baker

443
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: always felt like he had to win the press conference.

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Speaker 1: And some of that's just he's a young, twenty five

445
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Speaker 1: year old guy. He's a kid, and so a part

446
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Speaker 1: of me I do think he'll win that job in Carolina,

447
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Speaker 1: and I think it's a bad oldline. So you know

448
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Speaker 1: what I feel bad about Baker, Mary Kay is a

449
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: lot of times in life you get a great opportunity

450
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Speaker 1: and you're not ready for it, and you never get

451
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Speaker 1: a second great one. Lane Kiffen, he just wasn't ready

452
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Speaker 1: for the Raiders in USC. But he's a really smart coach.

453
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Speaker 1: He got a second opportunity in the SEC and he's crushing.

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Speaker 1: He's a great coach. Steve Sarkisian wasn't ready for the

455
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Speaker 1: USC job, personal issues. He got a second opportunity. Where

456
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for Baker is I'm not sure he's

457
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Speaker 1: ever going to get that offensive line or he's ever

458
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Speaker 1: going to get Nick Chubb. I mean, it was really

459
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Speaker 1: mary kay. It was really built for a quarterback. It

460
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: was almost the Niners offense. It was quarterback friendly, not

461
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Speaker 1: quarterback centric. And part of me thinks, oh, Baker, you

462
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Speaker 1: had it those kind of offensive lines because he didn't

463
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Speaker 1: make any money. They don't exist. You can't go buy

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Speaker 1: a right tackle right right. And the ironic part about

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Speaker 1: this whole thing, and I think about this sometimes, what

466
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Speaker 1: would have happened if Baker Mayfield had not asked to

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Speaker 1: be traded the day after or the day the Cleveland

468
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: Browns went down to try to court Deshaun Watson. What

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Speaker 1: if he would not have asked to be traded would

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Speaker 1: he be still the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns

471
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Speaker 1: right now? You know? I mean there's a world in

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Speaker 1: which that's possible. And you know, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just weird the way that the whole thing worked out,

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Speaker 1: because at that point, you know, negotiations opened back up,

475
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Speaker 1: and they opened up those purse strings and they threw

476
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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed at Deshaun Watson,

477
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the team that he had

478
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Speaker 1: supposedly ruled out was his first choice and here he was.

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Speaker 1: So I just have to wonder what would have happened.

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Speaker 1: Mike Silver now a member of the Volume, host of

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Speaker 1: Open Mike Podcast, and I want to start with a

482
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Speaker 1: story that you wrote San Francisco Chronicle, breaking news story

483
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: that I didn't know. So when the Niners signed Jimmy

484
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Speaker 1: Garoppolo to a contract, he disappeared for several weeks, if

485
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Speaker 1: not several months. This was news to me. Did did

486
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Speaker 1: the Niners? Because I always thought Jimmy was kind of

487
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: a team guy. But did they have buyer's remorse after

488
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: they couldn't get a hold of him for six weeks? Well,

489
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, you and I both have kids who are

490
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Speaker 1: you know, running with the cool crowd, So I think

491
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Speaker 1: the term is ghosted. He ghosted them. If I don't

492
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Speaker 1: have to check with my kids to make sure I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that right. But yeah, Colins. So let's go back

494
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Speaker 1: to twenty seventeen. They make the trade for Jimmy at

495
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Speaker 1: the deadline, which surprised a lot of people, and they

496
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Speaker 1: hadn't done a lot of thought beforehand. And you know,

497
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Speaker 1: Belichick called Kyle. They did the deal for a two

498
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Speaker 1: and then he came in and won those last five

499
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Speaker 1: games after they were already eliminated, and they were calling

500
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Speaker 1: him Jimmy Jesus and chatting MVP at Levi's and so

501
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: they paid him and he was for a minute, the

502
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Speaker 1: highest paid player in football. And I covered that press

503
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Speaker 1: conference thread of all network, We carried it live. It

504
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: was a ray of sunshine for a franchise that had

505
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: had a rough few years, you know, with the Harve

506
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Speaker 1: Off firing and then Tom Sula and Chip Kelly and

507
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: they were all fired up. And then, yeah, the way

508
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: it was told to be by several members of that

509
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: coaching staff, then he just kind of stopped communicating for

510
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks, And that is not normal behavior for

511
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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, let alone one that you just made

512
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Speaker 1: the highest paid guy in football. So that kind of

513
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: capped the buff Guard. So I don't want to say

514
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Speaker 1: Jimmy's not a team guy. He's very, very well liked

515
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. He's a very likable guy. He's

516
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: a tough player, and he you know, played through injuries

517
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Speaker 1: last year and almost got them to a super Bowl.

518
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: But it definitely frustrated his bosses. And it happened again

519
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: that next off season after you know, he had suffered

520
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Speaker 1: the knee injury that wiped out most of twenty eighteen.

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00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: It happened again after twenty nineteen when he had a

522
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Speaker 1: ten point lead been way through the fourth quarter of

523
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And the only time that it didn't

524
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Speaker 1: happen was twenty twenty when they drafted Trey Lads after

525
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Speaker 1: making the trade. Then Jimmy I kept tearing what a

526
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Speaker 1: great offseason he was having. That was code for he's

527
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Speaker 1: here and he's engaged, and you know, and he did

528
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Speaker 1: have a really impressive season last year, given the injuries

529
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: he fought through. But then, somewhat predictably, after last season

530
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Speaker 1: ended with the NFC Championship gave defeat, he not only

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Speaker 1: stopped communicating, but he went and got his shoulder taken

532
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Speaker 1: care of on his throwing arm, which they were not

533
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Speaker 1: in the loop about that decision, and then their efforts

534
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: to trade him were short circuited, largely because of that,

535
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: not that he didn't need the surgery, but just the

536
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Speaker 1: frustration returned. But at this point they had already kind

537
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Speaker 1: of psyched eally moved on to Trey Lance anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I can see people listening to this and saying,

539
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: so what you get it. It's like, no, you're not

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, right, you have a regular job, like

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. You'd prefer not being ghosted for seven to

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Speaker 1: eight to nine weeks. I mean that's yeah, and it's

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Speaker 1: and you know, these are voluntary activities, but the job

544
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: of quarterback is considered very different in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: that's one reason why they're paid what they're you know,

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Speaker 1: what they're paid. And you know, we saw with Kyler Murray,

547
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: right there was the infamous closet his contract that seemed

548
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: to indicate that his employers don't believe he can be

549
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: counted on, for sure to do outside studying. And you

550
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: and I talked about that. We talked about Ben Roethlisberger

551
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Speaker 1: and how he wasn't a big study or earlier in

552
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: his career, so it could be a very sensitive issue.

553
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: These guys can care deeply, they can prepare intensely. That

554
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: can be very tough. But there are different degrees of session.

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Speaker 1: And you know Peyton Manning, uh, you know, probably trying

556
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Speaker 1: to use every free second he could to figure out

557
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: a way to get an edge. Aaron Rodgers this offseason

558
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: had all these new receivers, so there was a very

559
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Speaker 1: valid reason for him to want to get with them

560
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: timing wise and start establishing that connection. And he chose

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Speaker 1: to um, you know, by his own account trip and

562
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Speaker 1: I'm joking around, I would you know, I went to

563
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Speaker 1: cal I'm not judging, but you know, Aaron Rodgers decided

564
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Speaker 1: not to spend a bunch of time doing that in

565
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Speaker 1: the off season, and he may be good enough to

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Speaker 1: get away with that. Tom Brady, you know, hit a

567
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Speaker 1: point in New England where he wanted to be in

568
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Speaker 1: LA in the offseason and he wasn't around much. So

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Speaker 1: you can, you know, you can overcome it. But usually

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00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: the stories of it being overcome usually have to do

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Speaker 1: with guys who are first ballot Hall of Fame level

572
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Speaker 1: talents and not guys like Jimmy, who are in that?

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Speaker 1: You know that next here or the one below. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, I said, Garoppolo and Tampa makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. I don't think Tom wants to be in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: This year. Offensive line has all beat up. He's worked

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Speaker 1: with Garoppolo before. There's no longer a threat. He's leaving

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: the second the season's over. Garoppolo is an accurate distributor

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Speaker 1: on a team with lots of really nice receiving weapons

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Speaker 1: that now you've got to look at the salary cap.

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Speaker 1: But you start looking around the league, teams either have

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Speaker 1: their guy, are going to be drafting their guy Seattle, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: or are giving a young guy one more year. Jets,

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Speaker 1: you know, Giants, Tampa, Mike Tampa feels right to me.

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00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I mean, I think the Giants won them,

586
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: and their cap is so leveraged, at least in their perception,

587
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: because I think the cap can always be manipulated. But

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00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: I think the Giants perspective is, yeah, we think he's

589
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Speaker 1: better than Daniel Jones. Were rather have him now. But

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00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: you know it costs, even even if you reduce the

591
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Speaker 1: twenty four million, which I think you would have to,

592
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: it would be tough for US cap plants. And then

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing with some of these teams

594
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Speaker 1: is you think, yeah, we could maybe prop it up

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Speaker 1: with Jimmy and go seven and ten, eight nine this year,

596
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Speaker 1: and you know, I think we're better than we really are.

597
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: We could just take our lumps now and as you said,

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Speaker 1: draft the next guy a year for now. Although that

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Speaker 1: logic is always tough because the NFL is so ephemeral

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Speaker 1: that you think you have more time usually than you

601
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Speaker 1: actually do when you, you know, go through rough patches,

602
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Speaker 1: unless you work for Mike Brown. And I don't even

603
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Speaker 1: say that pejoratively good for Mike Brown for sticking with

604
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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor longer than many owners would have given him

605
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Speaker 1: that third year and getting rewarded with the Super Bowl.

606
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I Tampa, that's interesting. I mean, I think

607
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Speaker 1: about Jimmy. I'd be all ears on that one, you know.

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Speaker 1: And listen, you know, Tom's a medical marvel that at

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Speaker 1: this age he is doing what he's done. And I've

610
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Speaker 1: been expecting for years and years and years for a

611
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: drop off to happen and for it to be pretty precipitous,

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Speaker 1: the way it was with Peyton and the way we've

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Speaker 1: seen it be with others, and he freakishly defies it

614
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Speaker 1: year after year. But I also don't subscribe to the

615
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: weird logic out there that people seem to have. He

616
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Speaker 1: will play forever. Next year, watch where're he going? Forty six?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, if you're three in Miami at age

618
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Speaker 1: forty eight, like, at some point it's you know, he's

619
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Speaker 1: gonna either get hurt or it's gonna fall off quickly.

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Speaker 1: And I also believe, as I think you know you've

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Speaker 1: certainly heard this in the past, where people say, once

622
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Speaker 1: a guy starts thinking about retiring, mention again, you're in football,

623
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Speaker 1: you're kind of like already retired. Well he did it

624
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: and came back and now he you know, we don't

625
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: know why he missed trading camp, but uh, you know,

626
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: maybe as you said, he's already mentally kind of half

627
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: out the door and working for Fox for lots and

628
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Speaker 1: lots of body. Yeah, I don't know why he's gone.

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Speaker 1: My guest, as he retired, he promised his family ten

630
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Speaker 1: days and you know Costa Rico or Big Sky Montana,

631
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Speaker 1: and you know your wife and the kids. You don't

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Speaker 1: break promises that that ends up being a longer season

633
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Speaker 1: than you anticipate. I was shocked because when the story

634
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Speaker 1: came out that Tom Brady was shopping for a mansion

635
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, I said on the air, it doesn't

636
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Speaker 1: fit his brand. Why would you want to go play

637
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: mahomes twice a year. I didn't buy it at all.

638
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: Dana White has instructed us it happened and it was close.

639
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Speaker 1: Were you surprised by that? No? I mean I knew

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Speaker 1: that they had thought about it. And my perception, or

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Speaker 1: by reported perception, of what was going on with the

642
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: Raiders in each of those two off seasons, the one

643
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: before Brady went to Tampa and then the next one

644
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: when Russell Wilson had put them on his list of

645
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: potential trade suitors. Is that ownership was driving the let's

646
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: get a star, you know push that Mark Davis had

647
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: kind of reached a point with Derek Carr that he

648
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: wasn't feeling it. He had this new stadium in Vegas

649
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: that was getting set to open, though it turned out

650
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: there would be no fans that first year, but he

651
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: was all fired up, like, we can have Tom Brady

652
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: at this new stadium and then the next year we

653
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: can have Russell Wilson at this new stadium, and that

654
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: Gruden and his assistance were. Though Gruden certainly wasn't a card,

655
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, cheerleader, he had come to realize, like, look,

656
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: this guy's really smart. He's pretty good, and you know,

657
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: we think we can get better if we could just

658
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: get you know, functional on defense and get him another weapon.

659
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: So I think it does check out to me that

660
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: I had heard the thing about Brady looking for houses

661
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: in Vegas kind of secondhand. I don't know if that

662
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: was true. And by the way, Brady could have been

663
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: looking for a house in Vegas as his Vegas house,

664
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Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, who knows. I do know that it

665
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: was talked about by the Raiders. I do know that

666
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: Ownership was into the idea of having a star. I

667
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: believe that Gruden, who it's kind of known for telling

668
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: everyone you're my guy, you're my guy, you're my guy

669
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: until they're not. I believe it's possible Gruden kind of

670
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: at least let it get back to Brady's camp. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

671
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: you're my guy. And then one Push Championship, I decided,

672
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to keep Derek Carr, and in fairness,

673
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine Ers did the same thing

674
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: in a less celebrated way, and that may well have

675
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: been his first choice. That the forty nine ers thought

676
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: about it and said, look, we just went to the

677
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: super Bowl with Jimmy. We've got this team we think

678
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: can win. Now Brady is very, very old. Again, he's

679
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: defying medical science and knowing what we don't know. You

680
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: would have taken that, but I think they thought, what

681
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: if we do this and then the whole chemistry collapses

682
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: and Brady turns out to be too old or too hurt,

683
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: and we short circuited our super Bowl window, or we

684
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: closed our super Bowl window prematurely. So in the end,

685
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers made that same decision. The Chargers

686
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: were all in by the way they were, they were

687
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: totally all in. But one common thing I heard from

688
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Raider people during that time and

689
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: since is that when they looked at the tape of

690
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: Brady in twenty nineteen, they thought he was descending. They

691
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: thought the arms streak wasn't quite what it was. And

692
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: in retrospects, some of the same people have said to me, well,

693
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: maybe we should have paid more attention to who his

694
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: receivers were because he definitely wasn't descending, but it looked

695
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: like they've launched at the former Bears and Dolphins head coach.

696
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: This is an interesting week. So I said this the

697
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: other day on Kenny pick At, you're a Pittsburgh guy,

698
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: I said, he's twenty four, four year starter, enters a

699
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: stable organization that may have found the steel in the

700
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: draft at wide receiver with George Pickens. Those are big

701
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: advantages that most rookie quarterbacks don't get. They usually have

702
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: a new coach Kayler Murray did. They don't get Mike Tomlin.

703
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: They don't get the rooneys. They don't get that stability,

704
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: they don't get that roster. Twenty four played his college

705
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: games in that stadium four years starting Dave. Those are

706
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: huge advantages other college quarterbacks don't have. So my takeaways listen,

707
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: let's find out if he can play. Just put him

708
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: out there. By the way, you get a break because

709
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: Deshaun's not going to play until Week thirteen. So I

710
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: want to know by the end of this year because

711
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: next year there's going to be six quarterbacks in the

712
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: first round. They're calling it one of the biggest quarterback

713
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: years ever. I want to know by January can the

714
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: kid play or not. But this is not a Kayler

715
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: Murray situation where he was a one year college starter

716
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: entering complete dysfunction. Same with Burrow. To me, you gotta

717
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: start him. I want to see live bullet. I this

718
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: kid's twenty four, Dave. You can't. You can't babysit him.

719
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: To me, well, you know what I like. I agree

720
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: with what the Steelers doing now, and I kind of

721
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: disagree with you a little bit for two reasons. Number one,

722
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: the age does not bother me. Uh the Steelers. You know,

723
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: he's in a situation where they expect to win in

724
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: a playoff game or Super Bowl this year. That's the goals.

725
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: Different than Kyler Murray obviously going to Arizona, new coach, franchise,

726
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: all the things you mentioned. Here's what happens if you

727
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: start a rookie quarterback, in my opinion, and he struggles,

728
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: you have a real chance to I don't want to

729
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: say lose the locker room, but have the locker room

730
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: question you as a head coach, as a general manager,

731
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: as an owner. So the best situation for Kenny right now,

732
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: and I talk to people back there every week is.

733
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: You know, mister Trubisky, They're not gonna have to change

734
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: one thing. When Kenny Pickett becomes the quarterback. Him and

735
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: Trubisky are very similar or athletes. They can both make

736
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: plays on the move. You know, they're about the same size,

737
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: same strength. So the offensive package that Matt Canada puts

738
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: in Kenny fits that mold perfectly. So I think that's

739
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: a big advance. You put Picket in there. He struggles early.

740
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: He struggles early as rookie quarterbacks do. Now you put

741
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: him on the bench, you may ruin that kid, and

742
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: particularly in that time in Pittsburgh. I mean they so Mitch,

743
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: let Mitch get in there. I think Mitch will win

744
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: for him and Kenny is going to get his opportunity.

745
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph is the guy that's out in my opinion.

746
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's in that city. He's had his opportunity.

747
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: It hasn't worked out for whatever reasons. That's the guy

748
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: that they'll play something. And they got to get him

749
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: on tape and try to move him on. But it's

750
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna be Trubisky, I have no questions. And then Picket's

751
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the guy, no question. You know, that's gonna happen,

752
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: but I think it'll work itself out. And the way

753
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: the stewers work, they do nothing by knee jerk reaction.

754
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: So one good preseason game, you know, and I know

755
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: the crowd I was. I think I shot a little

756
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: messy John to Kenny after the game when he came

757
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: in at Pittsburgh Stadium. You know, upper it was humble.

758
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: It was like a playoff mentality. The fans love him,

759
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: but the Rooneys know that they're gonna take it one

760
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: step at a time. It's gonna be Trubisky and then

761
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Pikett will give his opportunities soon enough. They are not

762
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: concerned about the age because a guy's never been hurt.

763
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: He's healthy, he's tough, no problem. So you've had connections

764
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: to Tampa for years. I don't think it's a big deal.

765
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 1: But Brady decided I'm just taking I'm taking fourteen days

766
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: off here in the middle of the camp. Now, I

767
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: said this today, Mike Evans has hurt, Chris Godwin is hurt,

768
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Russell Gage is hurt. They lost their center for the year.

769
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: Tristan Worf's got hurt, Tyler Johnson got hurt. So I'm

770
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: saying to myself, well, shit, the receivers are all hurt.

771
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: I have Brady come in and work with guys he's

772
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: not going to work with in the regular season. But

773
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: there are people that say this is odd. It's a

774
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: two week break and Dave, I look at it. He retired,

775
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: and I think he made promises to his family. I

776
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: think he told Giselle and the kids, guys, we're gonna

777
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: take your kids are getting older, you're not gonna want

778
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: to go on vacations with dad. We're gonna go on

779
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: a three week vacation. And I think when he unretired,

780
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: my guess is Giselle said, timeout, Timeout, you promised us.

781
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: Do you think that's my guess? Do you think it

782
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: would be disruptive if your star quarterback said, guys, I'm

783
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna be gone for fourteen days in camp? Yes, I do,

784
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: except it's Tom Brady. I've never had Tom Brady. I

785
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: agree with you call, and I think this was all

786
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: set up during retirement. You know, Todd Bowles is a

787
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: very honest person. He came out right from the get

788
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: go and said, we have known about this for weeks

789
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: or months. This is all part of the plan. So

790
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, Tampa duck concern. They're not really changing anything.

791
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: In fact, if they change anything on offense, to be

792
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: honest with you, it's gonna be because of Tom's influence.

793
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to go show up back

794
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: there and all of a sudden Byron Leftridge, the offensive

795
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: coordinator or the head coach top Bowls is going to say,

796
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't I don't really like these four

797
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: or five plays these are out. Then that's not going

798
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: to happen where Bruce, you know, was an offensive guy.

799
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: Tob Bows is staying away from it. So if anything changes,

800
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: it's going to be because Tom Brady wants it to

801
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 1: change for the offense. So I don't see that being

802
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: a problem with whatsoever. And you know he's staying in shape,

803
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and doing all those things. It's poor kids.

804
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: He's probably wearing them catching footballs. Can you imagine how

805
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: many balls they're catching a day. That's listen. I know

806
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: you love your linebackers and Roquan Smith is really good,

807
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: but I said this the other day. Years ago, the

808
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors had a player named Monte Ellis. He

809
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: was very, very good. He was their best player, but

810
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't a great and the league was pivoting to

811
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: shooting three point shooting, and so they decided to let

812
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Monte Ellis go. He had a market and he was

813
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: their best athlete, but he'd been there a few years

814
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: and he wasn't generating enough wins, and so they went

815
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: with Curry because he was the next He's what was

816
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: happening to basketball. Ellis was an All Star. Elis was

817
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: their best player. He was not a shooter. The game

818
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: is changing. Roquan Smith is not getting wins for you.

819
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Outside of Moody. They don't have a dependable number two receiver.

820
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: Their offensive line with the Bears isn't very good, and

821
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: Justin Fields has to work. This can't fail again. And

822
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: I look at Chicago's history, I can't name their top

823
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: five receivers. I can name their top five linebackers. But

824
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: the world's changing. I've had general managers tell me you

825
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: simply can't pay big money for a linebacker unless it's

826
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis or maybe Darius Leonard because he gets the

827
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: ball back. And in Chicago right now, I look at

828
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: Rokuan Smith and he wants big money, and I'm like,

829
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: I like him a lot, and he may be the

830
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: second best player first, best player on the team. But

831
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: if you could get a star receiver for him or

832
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: a left tackle with justin fields, wouldn't you have to

833
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: consider it. You would have to consider it. And I'm

834
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: not sure where the numbers are at, but a couple

835
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: points in defense of what the Bears are doing. I

836
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: was up there and I had a long talk with

837
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: Matt ever Flus, the defensive coordinator or the head coach now,

838
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: and they are going from a three four to a

839
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: four to three, and it's a four three. There's different

840
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: types of four three defenses. They are in the mold

841
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: of what we did at Dallas, I did at Miami Chicago.

842
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: They are in the mold of what Tony Dungee and

843
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith did. And when you when I go back

844
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: and I say, okay, Derek Brooks in that defense, they

845
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: are not a blitz team. This is the team that's

846
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: going to play a lot of different coverages, rush four

847
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: and you're linebacker, better make a lot of tackles and

848
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: you Derek Brooks was invaluable for Tampa Bay. Zach Thomas

849
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: was invaluable for US at Miami. Lance Briggs Brian Erlacker

850
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: were invaluable to the Bears, all the same scheme. So

851
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Speaker 1: I think you got to look at the scheme. And

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00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: you mentioned Darius Leonard. I mean, take a look at

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Speaker 1: the Maury Davis, take a look at Fred Warner, take

854
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: a look at some of the top linebackers right now,

855
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: and you compare Roquan Smith to these guys, and he's

856
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: got he's got more tackles at m I mean, the guy, ever,

857
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Speaker 1: he's over one hundred tackles, is old. He's twenty five

858
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Speaker 1: years old. The Bears have a they will have a

859
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in cap space next year. So if

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Speaker 1: it's bizarre, I'm on board with your calling. If you

861
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: came in and said, this guy's asking for more money

862
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: than any linebacker in the league, bob on and on

863
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: and on, then then they okay, what can we get

864
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: for the guy, Let's investigate it. But if we're trying,

865
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Speaker 1: if he's being reasonable with us, he was in a

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Speaker 1: charity event last week here in Chicago. You know, he's

867
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Speaker 1: what do they call the term in household on or

868
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: whatever the terms I you know, whatever that means. Uh.

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00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: So he's he's in all the meetings, he's working on

870
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: he's in shape, he knows the defense. You know, none

871
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: of those things bother me and even guys attending charity

872
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: events around the city. In my opinion, I would do everything.

873
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Speaker 1: I couldn't get this thing done unless the numbers were

874
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: out of observed. If they're not. This guy in this

875
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: scheme of defense makes a huge difference because he can

876
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: he never comes off the field. He plays the run,

877
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: he plays the pass, he can blitz. He's he's got

878
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: numbers to support everything, and to compare them with those

879
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: top guys, in my opinion, he's he's right there talent

880
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: wise and production wise with all of them. So I

881
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: would take it to the last strong, is what I'm saying. Yeah,

882
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 1: I have my concerns with fields. They have one receiver

883
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: I like Moody, nice tight end, decent backs, but an

884
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: offensive line that's ranked in the bottom six or seven

885
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: in the league. I think Detroit's gonna be better. Minnesota

886
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: is going to be better because Kirk Cousins will feel supported.

887
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: Green Bay is probably not as good. I don't see

888
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: light at the end of this. Hunneld for Chicago, sell

889
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: me on what you see, well, I'll tell you. I

890
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: had a long talk with Ryan Pooles, a general manager,

891
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the cap space that they're

892
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: gonna have, all the draft picks that they're gonna have,

893
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: we will know and this is this is gonna be

894
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback friendly offense. I mean they're gonna dive Justin Fields.

895
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: You know, it may not be the hind scores offense.

896
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna have to play great defense, but

897
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball and they're gonna move him

898
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: in the pocket misdirection plays. I mean, they're gonna have

899
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: enough stuff to give him chance to make plays, which

900
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: he didn't do last year. And they're gonna protect him.

901
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: If they got to keep seven guys in the block,

902
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: gonna do everything they can to protect them. By week eight,

903
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: if we have a conversation, we'll both be in agreeance.

904
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of those things where fifty guys

905
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: in a bar see something. It's probably that way, regardless

906
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: of what anybody else thinks, you know. And so I

907
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: think by mid season, you know, fifty people down here

908
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: on this street, Michigan Avenue with a bar, they're gonna

909
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: we're all gonna be on the same page if Justin

910
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: Fields is the future or not. Yeah, I don't think,

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00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, Dave, I used to be one of these

912
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: give a guy three years, but now with all the

913
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: seven on seven camps, these kids come out, they're ready

914
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: to play. Like I'll give you two years the timeline

915
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Speaker 1: I use, I'll give you a year of starting in

916
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: the second year. By Thanksgiving, I'm gonna have private conversations

917
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Speaker 1: with my GM and my owner, and I'm gonna know.

918
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: I really feel like I'm not going to give you.

919
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: I used to be a believer in forty eight starts.

920
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a believer in twenty four like I'll

921
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: know at twenty four, like I Daniel Jones, listen, he's

922
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: not accurate enough. He's just not accurate enough. And you know,

923
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Gettleman didn't surround him with much. But I always contend

924
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: that teams no sooner than they let on. I was

925
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: told this year to go buy an agent. A company

926
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: decides to fire you a year before they tell you

927
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: is what would you have to see with justin fields

928
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Speaker 1: that concerned you, Like, what was something you go to

929
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Speaker 1: the GM at Thanksgiving and go, shit, we got a

930
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: problem here. The only thing I saw coming back from

931
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. And I've said this on the air here.

932
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Speaker 1: You know, the guy in two years starting Ohio State,

933
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Speaker 1: he was sacked fifty two times, you know, twenty six

934
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Speaker 1: sacks a game or whatever it was. You know when

935
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: it was over fifty, it was fifty two. And I

936
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Speaker 1: want to see the biggest thing. I want to see

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00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: any word about his actress here or speed or I

938
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: want to see him make the decision and throw the

939
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: get the ball out quick, you know, and and help

940
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: protect yourself. That's what I see. I got to see

941
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: a quick decision in the ball coming out. And the

942
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: style of offense can help that, there's no question about that.

943
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: And uh but that's the one thing that bothered me

944
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: a little bit because you know, the guys that they

945
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: got blocking at Ohio State there as big as this

946
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: door and some of the people that are blocking. So

947
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: that's a lot of sacks for whatever reason. When you

948
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: when you're a balanced offense, they were running the ball.

949
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: So I want we got to eliminate those sacks. And

950
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback has as much to do with getting sacked

951
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: and as the offensive line. I mean you you've got

952
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: to get rid of that thing and make a quick decision.

953
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:53,279
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