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Speaker 1: This is Gavin Newsom. So when I started the podcast,

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Speaker 1: I made the point that I wanted to reach out

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Speaker 1: to people I disagree with and do so in a

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Speaker 1: civil way to have a dialogue people I agree with.

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Speaker 1: But I also made a commitment to all of you

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Speaker 1: that I wanted to break news. After all, I'm the

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Speaker 1: current governor of California. I make decisions on a daily basis,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was important on some critical decisions

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Speaker 1: to bring people in to the decision making process. And

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Speaker 1: of course a lot of attention has been given as

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Speaker 1: of late, particularly with the Los Angeles County District Attorney's

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Speaker 1: announcement earlier in this week about the Menandez brothers and

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Speaker 1: the Menandez brothers case. There's been a lot of inquiries.

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks like you have reached out and

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Speaker 1: have asked, is that influencing a determination for clemency? Does

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Speaker 1: what the DA just said, Does that influence the process

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Speaker 1: that's being conducted by our Board of Parole hearings. It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It may influence the court. The court resentencing will continue

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Speaker 1: to go forward. The DA now the new DA is

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Speaker 1: pulling back recommending from the Menendez brothers to be re sentenced,

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't impact the processes underway that review for

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Speaker 1: clemency in my office or the independent risk assessment that

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Speaker 1: will be concluded on June thirteenth by the Board of

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Speaker 1: Parole Hearings. And I'll repeat that, on June thirteenth, both

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Speaker 1: Lyle and Eric Menendez independently will have their final hearing.

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Speaker 1: A report then will be submitted to me on the

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Speaker 1: thirteenth of June for consideration. We will submit that report

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Speaker 1: to the judge for the resentencing, and that will weigh

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Speaker 1: into our independent analysis of whether or not to move

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Speaker 1: forward with the clemency application to support a commutation of

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Speaker 1: this case. So this was a very significant announcement from

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Speaker 1: the DA this week, but it doesn't fundamentally change the

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Speaker 1: facts as it relates to the independent investigation in my

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Speaker 1: office the Board of prole Hearings, or fundamentally change or

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Speaker 1: alter the process that's underway with the resentencing. It just

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Speaker 1: changes the recommendation from one supporting with the previous DA

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Speaker 1: in la resentencing and one now with the current DA

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Speaker 1: opposing it. I get to question a lot about celebrity

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Speaker 1: and whether that has an impact on decisions decisions for

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Speaker 1: the court, decisions that we make as it relates to

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Speaker 1: applications for clemency, this commutation. And it's a great question

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Speaker 1: because I think it cuts both ways. Yes, celebrity ways.

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Speaker 1: It has an impact, but in what direction does it weigh?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's used actually against people because they're so high profile,

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Speaker 1: they're actually held to a higher level of scrutiny and standard.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, you don't want that celebrity also

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Speaker 1: to influence on the other side. So it's a balancing act.

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Speaker 1: But I'm deeply mindful of it, and that's why it's

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Speaker 1: critical that our team independently stress tests the nature of celebrity,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I move forward with the Board of

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Speaker 1: Parole hearings to independently review with a group of experts

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Speaker 1: for psychologists and others. The facts of this case not

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Speaker 1: born by any bias because of celebrity. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have asked me if you watched any of

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Speaker 1: these Netflix series, if you see any of the dramatizations

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Speaker 1: around the Menendez brothers, including more recently Ryan Murphy's dramatization.

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Speaker 1: The answer is no, I've not seen one. I've seen

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Speaker 1: a few clips here and there on social media, and

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Speaker 1: I don't intend to watch these series because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be influenced by them. I just want to

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Speaker 1: be influenced by the facts. I'm obviously familiar with the

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Speaker 1: Menendez brothers just through the news over the course of

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Speaker 1: many decades, but not to the degree that many others

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Speaker 1: are because of all of these documentaries and all of

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Speaker 1: the attention they've received. So that won't bias my independent

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Speaker 1: and objective review of the facts. And again, it's not

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Speaker 1: just my independent objective review of the facts. It will

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Speaker 1: also be made by my staff, my team that does

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Speaker 1: this kind of work on a consistent basis. So on

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Speaker 1: June thirteenth, we will have the Parole Hearing Board recommendation

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Speaker 1: as it relates to the risk assessment as it relates

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Speaker 1: to the forensic psychologist, and that recommendation, that assessment, that

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Speaker 1: independent analysis will help guide the decision making that my

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Speaker 1: office is independently reviewing as it relates to the clemency application.