1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class A production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly Fry and 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We had a cozy week of 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: embroidery talk we did so I kind of need right now. 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: I love embroidery. I have a very I have very 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: distinct memories of various embroidery points in my life. I 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: remember the first time I tried it and why. It 8 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: harkens back to that thing that I've talked about with 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: the Koalas where I saw a project in one of 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: my mom's sewing magazines and I was like, I want 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: to do that. And it was a quilt that was 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: made that had it used Gingham fabric in it, and 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: the gingham was used as the grid basis for kind 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: of a very loose style of cross stitch, and I 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: was like, I want to do that. And I did 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: some of those and they were very fun. You've done 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: beat it embroidery before, right, you did a costume piece. Yeah, 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: most of what I've done has been cross ditch, but 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: then I did do some costumes that had like I 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: wasn't using the gritted embroidery fabric, But like I did 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of beadwork with embroidery onto ribbon as part 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: of UH costume, and pretty much that was just like 23 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: me copying as best as I could something that had 24 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: been in a movie. Yeah. So I did not learn 25 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: any like actual stitch techniques beyond what I learned as 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: part of cross stitching. Like I learned to crosstitch. There 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: are some other embroidery stitches that are sometimes used as 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: part of a cross stitch pattern. Yeah, Like I remember 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: doing across dich pattern that had a border around the 30 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: edge that was a different non cross embroidery stitch, right, 31 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: like a satin stitch or something. Yeah. Yeah, And so 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: that like that's what I am most familiar with than 33 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: my kind of free form attempts to copy something that 34 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: was on screen. I have, Oh I guess it is too. 35 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: I have two embroidery projects that are attempts to copy 36 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: things that appeared on screen, one of which I devoted 37 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: so much time and energy to and even traveled for, 38 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: which is the best costume of all time in my heart, 39 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: Princess Leah's best been outfit like the rust and and 40 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm so in love with that thing, and when it appeared, gosh, 41 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: that would have been twenty four years ago. I think 42 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: it was on tour as part of the Smithsonian's costume 43 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: they'll do like the Star Wars they did for a while, 44 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the Magic of myth one that toured around. I feel 45 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: like right now the Bestpin dress is touring only in 46 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Europe and not here. I'm not sure where, or maybe 47 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: it's not on tour at all right now, but I 48 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: love it and I literally we went when it was 49 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: in Houston because that was as close as it was coming, 50 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: and we drove over to Houston because we were too 51 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: poor for plane tickets then, and we literally I sat 52 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: in front of that dress in the museum display for 53 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: two solid days, about eight hours a day, trying to 54 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: recreate the pattern and take notes on all of the stitching. 55 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: And then I did a version of that costume. Incidentally, 56 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: if you've ever downloaded a hand drawn copy of that 57 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: pattern from the Internet, it was probably mine. It got 58 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: passed around a lot of costume siting after that because 59 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: I uploaded it and I did that one, and then 60 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: I did some for an Amidala gown in the nineties 61 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: and early two thousands. But where I really fell in 62 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: love with embroidery. I remember very distinctly, like at a 63 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: level I had not ever before in my life. Was 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: in I think it was two thousand and eight in Chicago, 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: there was an exhibit of dragon robes other Chinese embroidery, 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: and I lost my mind. Yeah, Like it just was like, 67 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I've certainly grown up around crafty people, and 68 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: I had seen lots of embroidery, but that was like 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: a level and a style of design I had never 70 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: really seen up close before. Yeah, pictures never do it justice. 71 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: Even beautiful pictures like are not the same as when 72 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: you were standing there and you can see the light 73 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: glinting off the silk threads in a very specific way. 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. And it made me absolutely crazy for embroidery. 75 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: When I worked as a library acquisition specialist for about 76 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: a decade, at the end of the year, when you 77 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: have budget left, use it on things that are not 78 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: necessarily like curriculum development stuff. It's just collection development. And 79 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: I would always try to sneak some good Chinese embroidery 80 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: history books. That school that I used to work for 81 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: has a really good resource, yeah, which is funny to me, 82 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: but I love it so much. Yeah. I when I 83 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: learned to Cross Ditch, I was a kid, and I 84 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: had seen beautiful embroidery pieces, and I was not a 85 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: patient child in any way, and the idea of what 86 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: I saw in like the embroidery pieces that were not 87 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Cross Ditch that I saw just absolutely overwhelmed me in 88 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: terms of even thinking about what would be involved to 89 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: create something like that. Yeah, So it was like Cross 90 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: Ditch was as far as I Yeah, I don't know 91 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: that I would describe myself as a patient person, but 92 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: I am certainly capable of hyper focus. Yeah. Yeah. Well, 93 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: by the way, when I was making those costly I 94 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on them. I also spent 95 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: a lot of time on them watching every commentary that 96 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: was released for the Lord of the Rings movies. Yeah, 97 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: and at that point, like I had seen the movies 98 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: so many times, I knew them basically by heart, so 99 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: it was more like I was listening to the commentary 100 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: while I was doing it. Yeah. I also at that 101 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: time had a cat named Anastasia, and Anastasia wanted to 102 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: get into my lap while I was trying to do this, 103 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: and I would be like, no, baby, can't get on 104 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: my b I have this on, you cannot also, And 105 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: she would get on the couch and she would like 106 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of crouch down, and she would slowly inch one 107 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: paw forward and then the other paw, Like if I 108 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: do this slow enough, she won't notice that I'm getting 109 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: on her lap. She won't realize I am just on 110 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: the lap. Yeah, yeah, kitty smarts. I have great memories 111 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: of and I did that best man leya embroidery for 112 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: a couple of different reasons. One is that I was 113 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: I started a little too late for the thing that 114 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to have it ready for h which meant 115 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: that I was spending long hours, like I would embroider 116 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: until like three in the morning, and I watched so 117 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: much Dragonball Z because that's what was running on Cartoon 118 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Network at those hours. I got all my super sayan 119 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: time in. But also my boss at the time, who 120 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: was a very cool and kind boss, started doing like 121 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: embroidery blockouts for my time to make sure I had 122 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: time to work on it. So it would be like 123 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: after three, if nobody has anything pressing, just sit at 124 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: your desk into embroidery. Yeah, which was the coolest everybody 125 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: needs it. I have such great memories of that. I 126 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: also will say that while I was researching this, since then, 127 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I have gotten served all of the ads for every 128 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: embroidery everything on the internet, and I don't mind that 129 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: at all. It's fine to me. Yeah. One of the 130 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: things that we did not talk about much in this 131 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: episode is the rise in various parts of Europe, but 132 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: especially in England. I think Spain had some as well 133 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: of embroidery schools, I want to say in the seventeen sixties, 134 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: because there was all of a sudden, this huge rash 135 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: of schools that popped up with the intent that they 136 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: would set up these schools in areas that had a 137 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: lot of blue collar families so that their daughters could 138 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: learn a trade. Okay, and most of them, some of 139 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: them still exist. They have evolved over time in their 140 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: mission where they're now like a more generalized education resource. 141 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: But it was kind of fascinating, But there's not much 142 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: to say of it other than that, like, yeah, yes, 143 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: this gave some girls a skill that they might not 144 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: have otherwise learned, you know, like an early vocation school. 145 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: And now embroidery is sometimes taught in schools as part 146 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: of other things like homec but not a lot. But no, 147 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: I know there is a lot of concern that a 148 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: lot of embroidery is embroidery education has gone away, so 149 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: there are people that really love it as an art 150 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: that are concerned about its future, which is why the 151 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: embroiderers guilds are so important. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I 152 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: had things that my mom taught me, but some of 153 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: it was either through the four H Club or the 154 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: Agricultural Extension Service, and the place where I grew up 155 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: would have classes that cost some small amount of money 156 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: that basically covered your supplies and stuff, and that's where 157 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: I learned to do a lot of different craft type things. Yeah. Yeah, 158 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: my mom did not teach me embroidery. She was a 159 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: really skilled stitcher, yeah, but she did not get into 160 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: the needlework. Yeah, so mom taught me mostly sewing. And 161 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: now that I'm really thinking about it, I'm like, did 162 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: anyone actually teach me to cross stitch or did I 163 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: just each myself that I am not sure. My dad's 164 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: sister crossed ditched a lot. She may have given me 165 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: some tips, but man, I don't really remember. Now. I 166 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: had a very funny moment once where I was working 167 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: for a company and it was such a lovely reference 168 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: to it that was unexpected. But we were in like 169 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: a company meeting where a variety of people were being 170 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: recognized for their contributions, and one of the vps that 171 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: was giving these out started talking about embroidery as a 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: way to talk about this one person's work, and it 173 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: was such a beautiful way to use discussion of it. 174 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Where she was saying, one of the things you learn 175 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: about if you study embroidery, if you know an embroiderer, 176 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: is that the true mark of quality is that the 177 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: backside of it is as pretty as the front side. 178 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: And she was saying, and this person's work on the 179 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: back end of our technical stuff is just as good 180 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: and perfect as anything that would be forward facing to users, 181 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, that's a beautiful analogy to 182 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: bring embroidery in. To close out, I have what I 183 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: find to be embroidery comedy, okay, which is once again, 184 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: we gotta talk about the Buyo tapestry some more. Yeah, 185 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's been very frequent in our discussions lately, 186 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: and I am still figuring out when I'm gonna get 187 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: to see them see it while it's in London. But 188 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: the great thing is that if you listen, if anybody 189 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: listened to the episode that Sarah and Deblina did about 190 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: the Buyo Tapestry, you know that there is a copy 191 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: of it that was made that's in Kensington mm hmm, 192 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: which is interesting in and of itself because you can't 193 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: really like one to one duplicate something like that, especially 194 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: because a lot of it does look like it was 195 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: freehand embroidered. But it's a very good copy, but with 196 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: one of the funniest pieces of editing to me ever. Yeah, 197 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: if you've ever looked closely at the Bayou Tapestry, there 198 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: are some people on it that have no pants on. 199 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: We talked about that a little bit in an unearthed 200 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: one time, right, but on the Kensington copy they made 201 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: the editorial decision to add pants to those people. Funny 202 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, Because this is a couple of 203 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: uneartheds ago we talked about a paper where someone had 204 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: researched the penises that are depicted. Yeah, and a lot 205 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: of those were on horses. But it also looked like 206 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: over the years there had been some like scaling back 207 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: of them in like repair and restoration work. Yeah, that 208 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: big eighteenth century restoration might have included some of that. Yeah, 209 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: which is also interesting because that is the stuff that 210 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: faded the most, So it would make that kind of 211 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: study a little bit tricky and something. Yeah. Yeah, like 212 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: is this an editing or is this a repair that 213 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: just didn't go quite right in terms of having longevity? 214 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: And I haven't read that paper, so I don't know. 215 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: But it's very funny. Yeah, we gotta put pants on 216 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: these people. Yeah. I love the Bye Tapestry pants off 217 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: dance off. I think it's the best part. Is funny 218 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: some guys with no pants carrying dogs. Yeah, I don't 219 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: know why. I think that's great. I'm very excited to 220 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: hopefully see it in person in the coming year. I'll 221 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: get all weird about it and it'll be great. And 222 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: it's a great excuse if it is in London, which 223 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: is the city I also love. Yeah, I have never 224 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: been there. You haven't knowed man. I love it. I 225 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, it's just a beautiful, fun place and 226 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: there's lots of yummy food. I know. There's a big 227 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: thing going on right now in terms of pubs and 228 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: some new regulations that they're worried are going to endanger 229 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: the way that pubs operate. So I'll be curious how 230 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: that all goes, and hopefully it all pubs will endure 231 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: because I love a good pub meal, delicious. Look out, London, 232 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm coming and I'm going to eat all the bangers 233 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: in mash because favorite meal in the world. If I'm 234 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: ever on death row, That's what I'm picking and I 235 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: will do it. I'll eat it while I do embroidery 236 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,479 Speaker 1: of people who may or may not be wearing pants. Yeah. 237 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: I just think it's funny. If you have time coming 238 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: up this weekend that you are off, free time to yourself, 239 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: the dream, and you like to do embroidery, maybe it's 240 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: a great time. I'm definitely going to be doing more 241 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: embroidery this year because of this. It like reignated some things. 242 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: I also one of the reasons that I was able 243 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: to do this episode, I mentioned that we had some 244 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: time off, but also I have been very slowly. It's 245 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: taking me more than a year to reorger my sewing room. 246 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: And at one point I had several books that I 247 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: had opened and stuck on a shelf that had fabric 248 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: on it, and without even realizing it, I had stacked 249 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: fabric on top of the books, and I've been like, 250 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: where are those books? I don't know? And when I 251 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: cleared everything off of those shelves, I was like, here 252 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: are those books, dang dong. So I rediscovered them, which 253 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: made it great and easier for me to work on this. 254 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: And now I'm like, I need to get back to 255 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: this this year. Yeah, that's a fun way to make 256 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: delight in my life. Listen, there's going to be some 257 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: rodians embroidered at my house, maybe some kiddies. I'm still 258 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: thinking about that Egyptian cat tattoo. That's a little, very 259 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: simple embroidery piece. I'm into all of it. It's going 260 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: to be an embroidery year. I'll be doing that my 261 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: free time some of the time. But to go back, 262 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: if this isn't time that you have off this weekend, 263 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: I still hope that you get some time to do 264 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: whatever it is that nurtures your soul and makes you 265 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: feel good about yourself, even if that's sitting on your couch. 266 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: That's a perfectly acceptable way to spend quiet time or 267 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: not quiet time. If you're watching TV, cranked. I don't care. 268 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: Just whatever makes you happy. We need it. We will 269 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: be right back here tomorrow with a classic episode, and 270 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: then on Monday we'll have something brand new. 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