Speaker 1: Julie. Hi, Julie, this is the Gecko guy.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Hello, Please to meet you, Julie.
Speaker 1: Please to meet you too. How's life just fine?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Although you know it's always interesting.
Speaker 1: What's been interesting about it lately?
Speaker 2: Well, last night I had an experience, as I traditionally
Speaker 2: have from time to time through my life, of what
Speaker 2: I guess I would call maybe not an alien abduction
Speaker 2: as much as an alien encounter. I've had these through
Speaker 2: my life, as have the other women in my family
Speaker 2: through generations. We have had from time to time constant
Speaker 2: miscarriages and things of that sort. And as I have
Speaker 2: aged in my life, I used to have difficulty accepting it.
Speaker 2: But now that I'm old, I'm fifty eight years old,
Speaker 2: I've come to accept it. And last night's experience, I
Speaker 2: think was perhaps the culmination of my awareness and spiritual
Speaker 2: acceptance of this phenomenon. And it has come full circle
Speaker 2: and has been very difficult in my life to deal
Speaker 2: with this. But what has happened through my life is,
Speaker 2: and it started when I was quite young, when I
Speaker 2: was about thirteen years old, was what would appear to
Speaker 2: be very vivid dreams of being abducted in what is
Speaker 2: sort of the traditional way of being abducted, where oh,
Speaker 2: you're laying on something, you can't move, you're helpless, you
Speaker 2: know something's happening, maybe you get some messages telepathically. Things
Speaker 2: of that sort used to cause me fear. But last
Speaker 2: night was the first night that I had whatether you
Speaker 2: want to call this a dream or a visit to
Speaker 2: a parallel dimension, I don't know what it is. This
Speaker 2: was the first time I was able to on my
Speaker 2: own willingly walk and enter. And the significance of that
Speaker 2: is this is that I believe, now that I analyze
Speaker 2: what has happened to me through my life, that they
Speaker 2: have in essence befriended me and have helped me through
Speaker 2: my health a journey. And I've had some very odd
Speaker 2: medical things that have happened in my life. I have
Speaker 2: had cancer that turns on and off, and I have
Speaker 2: been at the mail and they couldn't figure out why
Speaker 2: it would turn on and off. But come to find
Speaker 2: out I had some special genetics. They figured it out,
Speaker 2: and somehow now they know a gene that can turn
Speaker 2: cancer on and off. During the time that I was
Speaker 2: having this cancer coming on and off, I would be
Speaker 2: having these vivid experiences, and then when I would go
Speaker 2: and have my blood test after that experience, my tea
Speaker 2: cells and neutrophils and so forth would be reduced and
Speaker 2: they would be mystified why that would happen. Also, during
Speaker 2: this time in my life, I would have a series
Speaker 2: of miscarriages. I've had eight documented miscarriages. I always wanted
Speaker 2: to have lots of children. I had only two children.
Speaker 2: One of them is a girl. She's an adult. Now
Speaker 2: I'm kind of concerned about her journey that she will
Speaker 2: have because I am aware that this has been multi generational.
Speaker 2: How I know it's multigenerational is an experience that I
Speaker 2: had with my aunt's, my grandma and my mom and
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. But basically, I was explaining, I
Speaker 2: have this issue, it happens, and my mom and grandma
Speaker 2: looked at each other and the aunce said, you gotta
Speaker 2: tell her, and they said, no, she doesn't need to
Speaker 2: be told, and they said, yes, it's her body, she
Speaker 2: needs to know. That's how I found out. But I
Speaker 2: guess that's kind of just basic of my story. And
Speaker 2: here's where I kind of am going with this. And
Speaker 2: when I'm sort of wondering, am I having this experience
Speaker 2: and realization because I'm supposed to do something about it.
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to tell somebody about it? If so,
Speaker 2: by the way, you're the first I have told about this.
Speaker 2: But maybe this should be something that I should let
Speaker 2: others know. Maybe this is something bigger than myself. And
Speaker 2: this is the reason why I have this ability to
Speaker 2: recall this, feel this way and know it. I will
Speaker 2: say this from my experience last night, I feel one
Speaker 2: hundred times better. I had some back problems and so forth,
Speaker 2: and they're fine when.
Speaker 1: I woke up.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what do I do with this?
Speaker 2: Where do I go?
Speaker 1: So you had an experience last night where you are
Speaker 1: So you've been having these like, uh visions of being
Speaker 1: abducted by aliens throughout your entire life. Correct, yes, and
Speaker 1: last night and normally when you have these visions, you're
Speaker 1: it's like sleep paralysis in a sense.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but yesterday you were having one of these
Speaker 1: visions and you were able to actually walk walk around
Speaker 1: and uh interact with these creatures and Okay, and this
Speaker 1: is just this is just me trying to recap and
Speaker 1: understand what you've told me thus far. Is that you
Speaker 1: believe that you've had a recurring relationship with these creatures
Speaker 1: throughout your entire life. These creatures are here to help you,
Speaker 1: and they've done things such as put your cancer into
Speaker 1: remission and fixed your back and helped you with health problems.
Speaker 1: Is that my understanding what you're telling me correctly? Yes?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So here's the thing. So I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you very honestly where I come from on
Speaker 1: things like this. And it's for me a bit of
Speaker 1: a dichotomy where it's like, look, I'm not a big,
Speaker 1: like what you know, spiritual, I mean, I I am
Speaker 1: spiritual in a sense, but uh, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a bit skeptical when in matters such
Speaker 1: as these, and so I approach them with skepticism, however,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure you're you're familiar with telling other people
Speaker 1: about this stuff if you have. But on another hand,
Speaker 1: I am kind of like, well, what the fuck do
Speaker 1: I know about anything? You know? Because like what you know?
Speaker 1: If if you're telling me that you've you know, had
Speaker 1: these these these health issues change, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say for sure that they changed because aliens change them.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to say that. I know I
Speaker 1: have an alternative explanation for any of this stuff. And
Speaker 1: so well, okay, let me ask you this. So you
Speaker 1: told me that I'm you said, did you say just
Speaker 1: now that you haven't really talked to a lot of
Speaker 1: people about this stuff?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't because of what I do for a
Speaker 2: living is very high powerfile and profile in public, and
Speaker 2: I can't probably afford the scrutiny unless I have animinity
Speaker 2: to speak. Okay, I don't mind calling you because nobody's
Speaker 2: seeing me, okay and can identify me.
Speaker 1: Nobody can identify you like your voice, You're not high
Speaker 1: profile enough that nobody can hear your voice.
Speaker 2: Some people would, but they probably be watching or listening.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to your show.
Speaker 1: That's okay, there's not a lot of I'm gonna assume
Speaker 1: that you're uh, I don't know, maybe you're like the
Speaker 1: That wouldn't that be crazy if you were like the
Speaker 1: governor of Alaska or some shit, and it was like
Speaker 1: because I would have nobody listening. I don't think a
Speaker 1: single person listening to this show would know what the
Speaker 1: anonymous voice of the Governor of Alaska sounds like, but anyway,
Speaker 1: who gives a shit about any of that? Okay, So,
Speaker 1: but in your personal life, you haven't talked to anybody
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I've talked to my husband, and I have been with
Speaker 2: him since I was sixteen years old, and I always
Speaker 2: told him about this phenomenon, and he has now seen
Speaker 2: and witnessed enough to where he believes it is probably true.
Speaker 1: Interesting Okay, So I was going to ask what he
Speaker 1: thought of it.
Speaker 2: He believes that it's probably true that my miscarriages have
Speaker 2: been fetuses that are grown so that they can use
Speaker 2: genetic material to form a hybrid race. And its yes, okay, yes,
Speaker 2: and that is based on what I have seen and
Speaker 2: what they have shown me in some of these experiences.
Speaker 1: M Have you ever looked into this on the internet
Speaker 1: and seeing if there's any other people who've seen similar things.
Speaker 2: I have been reluctant because I don't know if I
Speaker 2: want to have my computers have that information stored as
Speaker 2: a search.
Speaker 1: Okay. Have you ever talked to a therapist or a
Speaker 1: doctor about this?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: It like just because you haven't gotten around to it,
Speaker 1: or because you're afraid to.
Speaker 2: Well at the mail when they were looking at my
Speaker 2: DNA and they had found this gene that they can
Speaker 2: trigger on and off. I said, well, it's my alien DNA,
Speaker 2: kind of in a joking way, and they didn't laugh,
Speaker 2: looked at me, and then he made this interesting comment, well,
Speaker 2: you are own negative, but that has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with this gene that would turn on or off. However,
Speaker 2: I have heard, just from seeing like ancient aliens on
Speaker 2: TV watching that program, that people with own negative blood
Speaker 2: have special blood characteristics. Okay, and that's the closest I've
Speaker 2: come to talking to a doctor.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you have a daughter, you have two two children?
Speaker 1: You said, yes, and have you talked to them about this?
Speaker 2: My daughter knows generally, but I have not explained in
Speaker 2: depth all of the experiences that I have had because
Speaker 2: I am worried that it would cause her unnecessary concern
Speaker 2: and fear as she sleeps. But now I've at least
Speaker 2: come to understand that there is nothing to fear, and
Speaker 2: maybe my journey has taken me to the point where
Speaker 2: last night I have had that experience, so I can
Speaker 2: share that with her.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I guess that brings us to
Speaker 1: what you're asking is, like, what do I do with
Speaker 1: any of this information, that's what you're trying to figure out? Yes, okay, yes, well,
Speaker 1: well I have my own personal suggestions. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you'll like them, but I'll save them because I
Speaker 1: want to hear what you're thinking first, and then i'll
Speaker 1: tell you what are you thinking you're going to do
Speaker 1: with this information.
Speaker 2: I think that this is beyond myself. It's probably something
Speaker 2: that maybe other people have experienced or can relate to,
Speaker 2: or or at least would make them think. For instance,
Speaker 2: women who have many miscarriages their own negative perhaps there
Speaker 2: could be some linkage. Maybe there is a camaraderie that
Speaker 2: is necessary to occur here on earth so that people
Speaker 2: can understand that, yes, this is happening, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: At least whatever group I'm involved with seems to be okay,
Speaker 2: all right, Who knows if there's multiple groups out there
Speaker 2: that could be. But I also don't want to be
Speaker 2: subject to public ridicule, humility, things of that sort. I
Speaker 2: am a very logical, well educated individual, and this is
Speaker 2: a subject matter that, for the most part, at least historically,
Speaker 2: has not been accepted, although there is a more recent acceptance,
Speaker 2: especially now here we're in disclosure or so it appears
Speaker 2: for the government to disclose that we're not alone. Maybe
Speaker 2: this is my time, I don't know, or maybe this
Speaker 2: is just something you keep to yourself on your journey
Speaker 2: and it is what it is, and there's no reason
Speaker 2: you need to share.
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I was going to say, is I
Speaker 1: know that you have apprehension about talking to a doctor
Speaker 1: or a therapist about this, but and I'm not here
Speaker 1: to invalidate any experiences. I told you, you know the
Speaker 1: way that I'm kind of coming at this from. But
Speaker 1: you know, there exist, as you know, people who spend
Speaker 1: their whole lives studying the brain. I'm sure people even
Speaker 1: who have spent their whole lives studying the brain as
Speaker 1: it relates to these kinds of experiences, you know. And
Speaker 1: so if I were you, this sounds like something that's
Speaker 1: like kind of bothering you, and I think it might
Speaker 1: continue to bother you until you are able to talk
Speaker 1: through it with somebody who understands that, whether that's people
Speaker 1: who've experienced the same thing as you that you find
Speaker 1: some way, or whether that's you know, with a therapist,
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist, a doctor who kind of specializes in helping
Speaker 1: people who've you know, experienced these kinds of things. And
Speaker 1: I know you're afraid of of you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know who you are what's going on, but I don't
Speaker 1: think you should be afraid of getting help with this
Speaker 1: big thing that's going on in your brain, you know,
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's I'm not you, I don't
Speaker 1: have your central nervous system. I don't know what's exactly
Speaker 1: stopping you from doing that, But that is what I
Speaker 1: would do if I were you, is to to find
Speaker 1: some assistance from somebody who knows what the hell they're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: But just seeking those individuals, doesn't that in a way
Speaker 2: commit me to not being mentally stable by the fact
Speaker 2: that I share that information? Isn't that how it is
Speaker 2: viewed from a therapist or psychological point Who gives?
Speaker 1: Who gives?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: First of all, who gives a ship? How it's viewed?
Speaker 1: You know? That's that's a that's a like, you know,
Speaker 1: who cares? Who cares how it's viewed? And also you
Speaker 1: know what look like whether you're mentally unstable or not.
Speaker 1: Who it's It's like, why the the real I guess
Speaker 1: the reasons that you're giving me to not do this
Speaker 1: are founded upon like fear of what other people might think,
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's a good reason to not
Speaker 1: get help.
Speaker 2: I agree that makes logical sense.
Speaker 1: And if there's like if there's like a fear of
Speaker 1: like even to yours not even okay, And even if
Speaker 1: we were gonna say, like, okay, you know what, this
Speaker 1: isn't about what other people think. This is about my
Speaker 1: understanding of myself. And if I go further down this
Speaker 1: route and I start to now have this understanding of
Speaker 1: myself where like I'm not mentally stable, it's like, one,
Speaker 1: we don't know that, you know, we're jumping ahead to
Speaker 1: conclusions that we don't even know. And then two, even
Speaker 1: if that is the case, so fucking what everyone in
Speaker 1: this fucking country is mentally unstable? You know, it's not
Speaker 1: the worst thing to be. So I don't. I I
Speaker 1: understand where your fears are coming from, both in how
Speaker 1: leading down this route might make you feel about yourself
Speaker 1: and how going down this route might make other people
Speaker 1: feel about you. But I don't think that either of
Speaker 1: those are good reasons to not go down the road
Speaker 1: of getting some help with this thing that's bottling in
Speaker 1: your brain. If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: It does. Can I share one other fear?
Speaker 1: I have, go ahead.
Speaker 2: The other fear is, what if by sharing this that
Speaker 2: somehow it gets shared to whatever group within the government,
Speaker 2: if it is within the government or elsewhere, that may
Speaker 2: want to know this and exploit it. I'm not a
Speaker 2: conspiracist theory theorist. I try to be logical, impartial, view
Speaker 2: things openly.
Speaker 4: But in the.
Speaker 2: Event that that could put my self in danger or
Speaker 2: my bloodline, I don't know if that's a reasonable fear.
Speaker 1: So you're afraid that, and I'm just let me. I
Speaker 1: just want to understand. You're afraid that if you go
Speaker 1: seek help or assistance with this, that the government will
Speaker 1: take notice and people within the government will put you
Speaker 1: or your family in danger as a result.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it may not be with the government, it
Speaker 2: may be you know, some other group or entity. But correct.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I look, I'm I'm an optimistic guy. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. I like to trust when I can,
Speaker 1: and uh, I I do not think that that will happen.
Speaker 1: I still don't think that's a compelling reason to not
Speaker 1: get help with this issue. You know, I just think
Speaker 1: the likelihood if we were to just like be logical
Speaker 1: about this. The likelihood of that is significantly lower than not,
Speaker 1: I think so. Again, I understand these fears, but I
Speaker 1: hope you're able to overcome them and get help with
Speaker 1: this issue for your sake and for your family's sake.
Speaker 2: Thank you if it can be. But yes, I don't
Speaker 2: know how they can help me get over a fear.
Speaker 2: I think I've come to acceptance that I shouldn't be afraid,
Speaker 2: and that just recently happened. But I'm just wondering if
Speaker 2: maybe it's not a therapist I should speak to, but
Speaker 2: somebody who does research in this area, that I could
Speaker 2: share this story that they might be able to learn
Speaker 2: from or share or find commonalities with under other stories
Speaker 2: and therefore help progress mankind and their relationship if we
Speaker 2: have any with those that aren't from here?
Speaker 1: Do you know anyone like that? And also also, god
Speaker 1: damn it, Jules, I'm gonna say something crazy. Why not both?
Speaker 1: You have those twenty four hours in a day. You
Speaker 1: could go to therapy on Wednesday, and you know the
Speaker 1: alien scientists on Thursday? Why not? Why not both?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: There's just so much much time, though, and I have
Speaker 2: quite a commitment of work obligations, and so I have
Speaker 2: to decide where to spend my time. But I'd love
Speaker 2: to if this is something that is important enough share
Speaker 2: it because I can share it unclouded based on what
Speaker 2: it is that I do for a living. I'm very objective,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Lord puts you places for a
Speaker 2: certain reason at certain times, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is my time to do something, and so I
Speaker 2: kind of look for guidance. When I saw that you're
Speaker 2: on I thought, okay, I will just text and say
Speaker 2: and if you call me up, then it was meant
Speaker 2: to be. And you've helped me explore this, help me
Speaker 2: feel more comfortable with talking about it, understanding I shouldn't
Speaker 2: be afraid. The fact that you didn't laugh at me
Speaker 2: or scoff or criticize or ridicule provides me some hope
Speaker 2: that others wouldn't as well, and gives me greater confidence
Speaker 2: dealing with and exploring and talking about this.
Speaker 1: Good. Good Jules. Your friends and family and they want
Speaker 1: you to live happily and peacefully, you know, and I
Speaker 1: think you would be happier and more peaceful if you
Speaker 1: expressed these things, and particularly express them to the people
Speaker 1: out there who could help you. So I'll say that
Speaker 1: much and I hope that you glean that from this conversation.
Speaker 2: I have, and I thank you very much. I appreciate
Speaker 2: you and everything you do and the advice that you
Speaker 2: give gave me and as well as others.
Speaker 3: Pluss you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jules. There anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go, Hey.
Speaker 2: Y'all rock We're all in this together. I'm glad that
Speaker 2: we're all here watching and learning and expanding what it
Speaker 2: is that we know, and uh, in doing so, finding
Speaker 2: out that the world is smaller and more relatable. That
Speaker 2: would be all I'd have to say.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, having.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you you too, you too. Yep, bye bye.
Speaker 1: So this is interesting. We had a there's another caller
Speaker 1: on this show with something kind of similar. I got
Speaker 1: maybe these are maybe this is similar, Maybe this is similar,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. There's a because there was this guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any remembers this from a few
Speaker 1: podcasts to go, but there was this guy who was
Speaker 1: afraid that time travelers from the future were out to
Speaker 1: get him, and he was convinced that there were like
Speaker 1: time travelers from the future that were at to get
Speaker 1: him and I. After that call, I like, I went,
Speaker 1: I looked around on the computer about it, and there
Speaker 1: it's like a thing for people too. It's called like
Speaker 1: gang stalking or some shiit like that. And I was
Speaker 1: like looking on Wikipedia and it was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a thing that people experience. And I'm not a
Speaker 1: conspiracy guy. I'm a pretty strong face value guy, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure there the truth is somewhere in between
Speaker 1: the conspiracies and the people who take things at face value.
Speaker 1: But uh, anyway, I don't know, I would think if
Speaker 1: Jewels were to go talk to I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I like to always think there's
Speaker 1: like someone who, like, you know, has worked with people
Speaker 1: who've had visions like this or or more specifically, people
Speaker 1: who had like uncomfortable paranoia and and uh fear based
Speaker 1: off of this. You know, She's obviously not the only
Speaker 1: person ever in the world to you know, have have
Speaker 1: these kinds of uh fears and paranoise and experiences and
Speaker 1: and and there are people out there who've helped other
Speaker 1: people who've experienced this stuff. So I hope she finds
Speaker 1: those people. Whole I I have of sneeze. Yeah. Ough,
Speaker 1: the government acted. This activated the sneeze chip in my
Speaker 1: brain just now. I hope she finds those people, and
Speaker 1: I hope everything works out. And yeah, I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a gecko. I don't know. That's the thing. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There could be aliens. There's probably aliens. I mean, there's shit,
Speaker 1: it's a huge world we live in. There's probably aliens.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're hanging out here on Earth.
Speaker 1: I certainly don't know if they're like little green guys
Speaker 1: who are visiting us some fucking more. I here's the
Speaker 1: boring answer. I think there are aliens, but I think
Speaker 1: that the aliens are like single celled organisms. Like it's
Speaker 1: not anything cool. I don't know if there's other like
Speaker 1: intelligent life. I think there's mainly just like fucking like
Speaker 1: bacteria and stuff. It's very it's kind of lame. It's
Speaker 1: not like a science fiction thing. But anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling Juels. Hello, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no fucking way, what's up. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a name, Todd. Okay, that's up, Well, Todd,
Speaker 1: how's life? How's how's sounding like? Rgie Plaza?
Speaker 3: How's sounding like?
Speaker 1: Who never minds? Todd? What's up? How can I get
Speaker 1: you today?
Speaker 3: Well, it's fucking two thirty in the morning. I'm like
Speaker 3: really anxious about going to work tomorrow.
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 3: I'm a teacher?
Speaker 1: Oh? What a what? What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Level? What like? Age group?
Speaker 3: I teach kinder through fifth grade?
Speaker 1: You teach kindergarten through fifth grade?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: I teach art?
Speaker 1: What like? So you teach multiple different grade levels?
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah. When there's an art teacher in a school,
Speaker 3: usually they teach like a whole group of kids, so
Speaker 3: like either K or five or K th eight or
Speaker 3: you know, all of high school.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound offensive when I say this,
Speaker 1: and you can tell me if I do. But I
Speaker 1: would think, like the fact that you're gonna have like
Speaker 1: less brain power tomorrow because you stayed up until three
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning would actually be helpful for your
Speaker 1: job because it would like dumb you down to the
Speaker 1: level of a fifth grader and you would be able
Speaker 1: to like understand their artistic visions a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Does that Is that fair?
Speaker 3: To say honestly, maybe it's it's tough, but it's just
Speaker 3: like I feel like, as an art teacher, I shouldn't
Speaker 3: have to have this stress that I'm having because you know,
Speaker 3: I chose to be an art teacher because I was like,
Speaker 3: I want to be chill, I want to be I
Speaker 3: want to make my kids, but like this has been horrible.
Speaker 1: Why like it's it's been hor How long has it
Speaker 1: been horrible?
Speaker 3: This year? So I teach like in an inner city
Speaker 3: school and the kids are just insanely disrespectful, and it's
Speaker 3: just like it's crazy and I've been, I've been. I
Speaker 3: fucked up. I talked shit about my school to perhaps
Speaker 3: the wrong people, and the vice principal came up to
Speaker 3: me and she was like, I heard that you've been
Speaker 3: talking to shit and should we look for a new teacher.
Speaker 1: I heard basically talking and you didn't think that I
Speaker 1: would hear it.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I keep going I love that, but no that
Speaker 3: now I'm just like anxious to go in tomorrow. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what am I going to walk into?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were let's get a handle on this.
Speaker 1: Who were you talking shit to that? You shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been talking shit to and what did you say in
Speaker 1: your shit talk?
Speaker 3: You know what, I can't even answer that because I
Speaker 3: fucking hate it there so much. I don't even have
Speaker 3: a classroop.
Speaker 1: You hate it there so much that there was so
Speaker 1: many different things you could have been talking shit about
Speaker 1: that you can't remember which one it was. Is that
Speaker 1: what you're saying?
Speaker 3: I no, I mean, I never truly said that I
Speaker 3: hate it, except like to my friends, but I have
Speaker 3: said like, you know, I'm tired of it, or like
Speaker 3: it's been noted that I'm calling out often even though look, listen,
Speaker 3: listen to this. I got ten days off in the
Speaker 3: beginning of the year to take ten days off. There
Speaker 3: like this either your ten days off, and then they
Speaker 3: reprimanded me for taking seven of the ten days off.
Speaker 3: They're like, we haven't even been in school for seven months,
Speaker 3: so why give me the days off.
Speaker 1: I was gonna look, I here's the thing. If a teacher,
Speaker 1: I think, like, all right, so the vice principle was like,
Speaker 1: maybe we should look for a new teacher. But wouldn't
Speaker 1: somebody who hates their job and yet continues to stay.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be isn't that like a sign of perseverance.
Speaker 1: Isn't that good thing? I mean not, it's not a
Speaker 1: good thing for the person staying. But like you could
Speaker 1: flip it, oh yeah, like that you could.
Speaker 3: Be like, I hate the school ship job.
Speaker 1: I hate these kids, but here I am all right,
Speaker 1: good luck getting a new fucking teacher.
Speaker 3: That's the worst. I'm constantly like, suck these kids. But
Speaker 3: also at an individual level, they're so great, they're so sweet,
Speaker 3: but like as a whole, they really do suck.
Speaker 1: Why do they suck?
Speaker 3: Do you think there's no type of parenting going on?
Speaker 1: Why do they suck? Why do you hate them?
Speaker 3: They're just I like, for example, I have like this
Speaker 3: one class that and it's it's art. It should be fun,
Speaker 3: it should be easy, it's elementary art. It should not
Speaker 3: be stressful, like I said, but like it took one
Speaker 3: of my grades like two months to complete one art
Speaker 3: project because they wouldn't just shut up and let me
Speaker 3: talk or get materials out, or like I'm bringing materials
Speaker 3: out and then their brick coming back broken and then
Speaker 3: I'm can't I'm unable to get new materials.
Speaker 1: Do people ever like throw shit at you, because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things to throw. There's like paint. Is
Speaker 1: there ever like pain throw paint at you or anything?
Speaker 3: No, I think that would be it for me. I'm
Speaker 3: like on such a laugh line that I'm like, I
Speaker 3: feel like it's one kid just strokes beIN brush at me.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: I'm walking out.
Speaker 1: I when I was in high school, there was a
Speaker 1: kid in one of my art classes who like, she
Speaker 1: made the teacher cry once because he was like acting
Speaker 1: out in class, and so the teacher sent him to
Speaker 1: the principal and he was like leaving and he yelled
Speaker 1: at her and he was like, yeah, I'm not a
Speaker 1: fucking art teacher, and we left and she cried. It's
Speaker 1: kind of sad.
Speaker 3: That's awful. I mean, I felt like crying. Not anymore
Speaker 3: now I'm like, okay, passed like the wine to cry stage.
Speaker 3: But it's like I've also I'm realizing maybe I'm not
Speaker 3: meant to work full time. So something else that I
Speaker 3: texted you about is like I was I used to
Speaker 3: be an airbnb host, maybe not like in a completely
Speaker 3: legal way.
Speaker 1: Oh did you do? Did you do that airbnb arbitrage
Speaker 1: shit where you like rented a place and then airbn
Speaker 1: beat it?
Speaker 3: Kind of I lived in the apartment and then we
Speaker 3: like rented the second room in that apartment.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you you did the Airbnb arbitrage shit where
Speaker 1: you rented a place and then airbn beat it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we didn't like fully airbnb the place, like
Speaker 3: we lived there at the same time, so it was
Speaker 3: like half illegal. Maybe it definitely said in our leaset
Speaker 3: to not airbnb it, and we still airbnb to room.
Speaker 1: Now totally illegal, totally. You did the Airbnb arbitrage thing
Speaker 1: where you rent the place and then airbnb it out
Speaker 1: when you're not supposed to. Yeah, I know that because
Speaker 1: I before I started doing this, I I like, I
Speaker 1: had a solid few months of time, like right before
Speaker 1: I graduated college where I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what am I going to do for money when I
Speaker 1: graduate college? And so I I schemed a lot. I
Speaker 1: looked into a lot of different schemes, and this was
Speaker 1: a scheme I got pretty close to doing.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's not scheming if you're surviving. I
Speaker 3: feel like it's nothing happened. But the whole point of it,
Speaker 3: the whole survival aspect. It allowed me not to have
Speaker 3: a full time job for like yeah six.
Speaker 1: Years, yeah, six years. Yeah, Oh, so you were chilling
Speaker 1: doing Airbnb arbitrage for six years and your landlord didn't
Speaker 1: find out for six years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah we were really lucky.
Speaker 4: Did that?
Speaker 3: My waitress like to like support myself, but like I
Speaker 3: wasn't fully chilling.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you did the Airbnb. So you did the
Speaker 1: Airbnb thing to like, all right, this will pay for
Speaker 1: my rent, and then the waitress thing, yeah, this will
Speaker 1: pay for like other random bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was still our teaching. I really enjoyed
Speaker 3: what I do.
Speaker 1: And you were doing this for six years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How how old are you know?
Speaker 3: COVID hit?
Speaker 1: I'm thirty man, So do you why did you quit?
Speaker 1: Did the landlord find out?
Speaker 3: No, COVID happened. And actually we when COVID hit, we
Speaker 3: had a an Arabian geek. She was from Greece and
Speaker 3: she was like eight months pregnant.
Speaker 2: About to pop geez.
Speaker 3: I think she did some like conducting and our fear
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, we're going to go through
Speaker 3: this pandemic with a fucking baby, that this Greek lady's
Speaker 3: is going to happen our apartment, Holy shit.
Speaker 1: But she left, so that was good that wasn't A
Speaker 1: baby was not part a Greek little baby was not
Speaker 1: part of the scheme.
Speaker 3: It was not.
Speaker 1: So why did you quit? Like the pandemic just kind
Speaker 1: of fucked up the scheme.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like pretty delicate, like healthwise. So my boyfriend
Speaker 3: was like, hey, let's not have random people in here.
Speaker 3: Don't get sick and don't die.
Speaker 1: Okay, But but the pandemic is over in some states.
Speaker 1: It kind of never even happened, So what would you
Speaker 1: go back to doing it? Now?
Speaker 3: I no longer live in that apartment, so we can, okay.
Speaker 3: So I had to, Like after the pandemic happened, I
Speaker 3: was like, shit, graduated college and it was to find
Speaker 3: a real job. So there's only like my third year
Speaker 3: working full time, and tonight I actually had the realization.
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I'm not meant to work full time.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: There's a same place for five days a week.
Speaker 1: There's lots of schemes out there if you want to
Speaker 1: keep scheming. There's I looked into several schemes, and who
Speaker 1: knows what the future looks like for me. I might
Speaker 1: have to go back to fucking scheming at some point,
Speaker 1: But like there's if you don't want to work a
Speaker 1: real job, you can scheme. I know, no scheme, I
Speaker 1: mean you can ski. You can. Like, by the way,
Speaker 1: when I about when I say a scheme, I don't
Speaker 1: mean something illegal. I just mean, like, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm relating scheme to scams.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no, I'm not a scam.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, like, okay, I'm talking like ed
Speaker 1: ed the shit where they're like, let's build a water
Speaker 1: park out of cardboard to make twenty five cents for
Speaker 1: a job breaking Like that's a scheme. Like I'm talking,
Speaker 1: you know, a little little rascally shit like buy a
Speaker 1: fucking you know, jet ski and rented out kind of shit,
Speaker 1: just like schemes.
Speaker 3: It's cool. I like that jetski idea.
Speaker 1: Do it? God? You know what, it's easier than ever
Speaker 1: to not work a full time job. You just got
Speaker 1: to scheme a little bit. Do you have money saved up?
Speaker 1: Do you have a little scheme capital I'm trying.
Speaker 3: I'm like working like four jobs right now and I'm
Speaker 3: going to school. It's I'm working myself like a fucking horse.
Speaker 1: I mean landlording. You could do that. That's a scheme.
Speaker 3: I mean, we want to have like a little Airbnb business.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that takes money. Yeah, I take down the
Speaker 3: road money.
Speaker 1: Well, well let's see. I mean I'm kind of doing
Speaker 1: a scheme right now. Again. Scheme is not a scam,
Speaker 1: the scheme, but it is like a scheme. Like to me,
Speaker 1: a scheme is like just let any kind of wacky
Speaker 1: thing that one may do to avoid getting a real job.
Speaker 4: Hmm.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I have really weird part time gigs,
Speaker 3: or I've had weird part time gigs, like I write
Speaker 3: a bunch of envelopes for this person to enter some
Speaker 3: sort of sweepstakes, and I write like a thousand of them.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you worked for somebody entering sweepstakes for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: That's such a fucking scheme, dude, somebody you could literally
Speaker 1: hold on. How much did they?
Speaker 3: Can?
Speaker 1: I you don't have to talk, I want to be
Speaker 1: can ask how much they paid you?
Speaker 3: Shit? If you did the math, it was like maybe
Speaker 3: like ten dollars an hour. I no longer do that.
Speaker 1: Did they? Did they ever win the sweep stake?
Speaker 3: If you do the math? Because you, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: So I think he like hires writers to do it
Speaker 3: for different people, so you're doing it for the third person.
Speaker 3: I think he's doing the scheme, and.
Speaker 1: I know he's scheming hard. He's like, absolutely, he's scheming
Speaker 1: because he's dude. The idea of like, all right, let
Speaker 1: me pay, let me spend fifty dollars to have somebody
Speaker 1: spend five hours submitting one thousand entries into a sweepstakes,
Speaker 1: so that my fifty dollars, you know, flips into like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, ten thousand dollars or whatever, the sweep
Speaker 1: stakes is work. I mean, that's you know, you could
Speaker 1: do that scheme.
Speaker 3: I literally felt like I was getting carple tunnel, and
Speaker 3: I cannot get carple tunnel because I'm a painter. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not happening.
Speaker 1: But you could do that. You could be the person
Speaker 1: paying somebody fifty dollars to enter the fucking Nickelodeon Hotel sweepstakes.
Speaker 4: For you.
Speaker 3: That feels fucked up because he paid me. Shit, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What what would be what would be an ethical scheme
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I never thought about scheming.
Speaker 1: Schemes for six years.
Speaker 3: You schemed, well, it kind of just happened. We just
Speaker 3: had the room and we're like, why don't we just
Speaker 3: do this? And it just happened. I know, it was great,
Speaker 3: it was beautiful. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved people go on. You just go on YouTube
Speaker 1: and search like a hundred ways to make money.
Speaker 3: I just deleted YouTube.
Speaker 1: Just deleted YouTube. By the way, those guys are scheming,
Speaker 1: the guys who because here's the thing. You go on
Speaker 1: the YouTube fucking channel of the guy who made the
Speaker 1: video of one hundred ways to make money, and that
Speaker 1: video is a scheme. He's fucking making money.
Speaker 3: It's like a yeah.
Speaker 1: He makes a video with chat GBT on how to
Speaker 1: make money, and then you watch it and he gets
Speaker 1: ad sense for everything, like everyone's it's a fucking giant
Speaker 1: fucking it's the circle of scheme.
Speaker 3: Scheme.
Speaker 1: It's just a scheme, universe.
Speaker 3: I think this is an excuse for me not to
Speaker 3: go to work tomorrow. Just pondering the scheme of it all.
Speaker 1: Dude, just yeah, call out of work and uh here,
Speaker 1: okay do this what no, I mean, don't do this.
Speaker 1: Don't do whatever you want. But you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you could call out a work and then just spend
Speaker 1: you know, five hours, uh looking on the internet. For
Speaker 1: various scheme ideas. Don't buy anyone's course. Get You're gonna
Speaker 1: run into a lot of people selling courses on how
Speaker 1: to do their schemes. But the course is the.
Speaker 3: Scheme my friends told me to. That's so funny. My
Speaker 3: my my friends told me I should I should start
Speaker 3: streaming myself painting. But I'm painting with my feet?
Speaker 1: Can you do that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was you have? Oh no, I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you and you do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Well? No, I was gonna do you have the skill
Speaker 1: to paint with your feet?
Speaker 3: I don't think I do. Oh well, I've never tried.
Speaker 3: I don't want to try.
Speaker 1: Well shit, uh no.
Speaker 3: I know what I can do for money, But I
Speaker 3: was just like, I don't want to. I think I
Speaker 3: want to quit teaching after this year.
Speaker 1: Do you like any of the kids? Like any of them? Cool?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When it comes down to it, and I'm like really
Speaker 3: looking at them at an individual level, they're all really
Speaker 3: great kids. But like, you can't stuff thirty something kids
Speaker 3: into a classroom and have it be like a valid environment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a you're not gonna win a thirty v
Speaker 1: one that I'm.
Speaker 3: Fighting his I'm like, I literally asked him, I'm like,
Speaker 3: why are we arguing right now?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you got to like appeal to him,
Speaker 1: like what like I you know, I remember like when
Speaker 1: I was in high school or even in college even
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just in the educational system. Like
Speaker 1: here here's the thing. I guess nobody ever and maybe
Speaker 1: this won't work, but I'm just saying what I remember
Speaker 1: from my time in the educational system is I just
Speaker 1: wish like before, you know, you got up there and
Speaker 1: started talking about the Civil War or you know, chemistry
Speaker 1: or the quadratic formula. I just wish like every class
Speaker 1: started with a little bit of like, hey, just before
Speaker 1: we this no textbooks, we're not going to do anything.
Speaker 1: Just does everyone, Just if I could just talk to
Speaker 1: you guys, this is people right now, just real quick.
Speaker 1: Here's why you should give a shit about what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, just give me that first so
Speaker 1: that I can go, Okay, here's why I should learn Spanish,
Speaker 1: Here's why I should learn about American history. They don't
Speaker 1: do that. They just go right into it. They just
Speaker 1: were supposed to do shit. Go ahead, what were you
Speaker 1: gonna say yeah, no, no.
Speaker 3: That might have worked when you were a kid or
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, but I feel like now
Speaker 3: the kids are so like on the shorts on the
Speaker 3: TikTok on like the high dopamine thing that like when
Speaker 3: they go into the real world, that dopamine is not
Speaker 3: there anymore. Oh yeah, and they're struggling. Yeah, terrifying, Like
Speaker 3: that's the true issue there.
Speaker 1: Terrifying, terrifying.
Speaker 3: Oh that's why I just quit YouTube and like I quit,
Speaker 3: I'm off all social media right now, and that like withdrawal.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, I mean, especially the fact that I mean
Speaker 1: you're talking about like I mean you are you running
Speaker 1: into like first graders who are addicted to TikTok.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So I walk into my classroom, it's
Speaker 3: all just like TikTok sounds.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's horrible.
Speaker 3: Like they'll just run through it all, damn.
Speaker 1: And it's so depressing because it's not gonna get better.
Speaker 3: It's not and it's not even their faults, like right,
Speaker 3: I know, it's just like I just feel like this
Speaker 3: is now no longer my issue, and it's like I
Speaker 3: don't want to.
Speaker 1: Deal with this, isn't it crazy?
Speaker 3: I love what I do, but like, not here is Isn't.
Speaker 1: It crazy that all this shit is so like like
Speaker 1: kids being like TikTok's only four years old, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: widespread smartphone usage by every person on the earth is
Speaker 1: like only really like you know, fifteen years old maybe,
Speaker 1: and yet we're we're yeah, we're little guinea pigs for it.
Speaker 1: It's fucking fucked up. It's really crazy.
Speaker 3: It is fucked up, pandemic it. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know, like like yeah, actually, when I was texting,
Speaker 3: I was like, am I going to get myself into
Speaker 3: deeper shit for wine and texting and call in? I
Speaker 3: was like, there's no fucking chance it's going to call me,
Speaker 3: and now here I am spat up on my bed
Speaker 3: in the middle of the dark.
Speaker 1: I might regret this, Well, are you going to go
Speaker 1: to your job tomorrow? Are you going to call out?
Speaker 1: And are you going to call out?
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I have run out of my days, so I
Speaker 3: just have to do it. Well, they gave me ten
Speaker 3: days in the beginning of the year, and unfortunately I
Speaker 3: used up all of them. I didn't even mean to
Speaker 3: use one of them, like I had them all carefully
Speaker 3: planned out, but then that earthquake happened, and I was
Speaker 3: a pussy and I ran home.
Speaker 1: Well, Todd, was this conversation helpful for you in any
Speaker 1: way shape or for him?
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 3: I'm going to scheme.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go scheme. I'm really like, let me know what
Speaker 1: you came up with, because if you're just like like,
Speaker 1: I would love to get a like an Instagram DM
Speaker 1: from you a year from now, being like, hey, I
Speaker 1: sell chess pieces on Amazon now.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do a whole lot of shit like
Speaker 3: I can instagram DM you right now, and I just
Speaker 3: like I have my own paint business, like I do
Speaker 3: like paintent tips for like his and adults. I sell
Speaker 3: my paintings. Well, I'll try to sell my paintings.
Speaker 1: You're an intermediate schemer already, so you you'll be fine
Speaker 1: if you decide you want to schemer.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was born and raised in New York,
Speaker 3: like born and raised schemer, well born and raised trying
Speaker 3: to do what I can for money and survive.
Speaker 1: Todd, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I've always thought about the delete your TikTok that doblvine
Speaker 3: like downward spiral. That's bad. That's not something we should
Speaker 3: be feeling. Take care of social media, thank you, Jack.
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Speaker 4: Job? So, yeah, that's not going pretty well. I'm unemployed
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