Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Tuesday, June tenth. Testimony underway
Speaker 1: as we speak on what is now officially the fifth week,
Speaker 1: day twenty in the Ditty trial. Welcome to this episode
Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. We continue to be your one
Speaker 1: stop every day to get you all caught up. Today,
Speaker 1: Robes is one of the most anticipated days in the
Speaker 1: trial with one of the most anticipated witnesses who will
Speaker 1: undergo a highly anticipated cross examination. So all that's going
Speaker 1: on supposed to in court today, but rose before we
Speaker 1: even got to some testimony. We've seen this a couple
Speaker 1: of times. There was some housekeeping and some pretty important
Speaker 1: and even entertaining at times housekeeping they had to do
Speaker 1: in court this morning.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think many of you who've been listening to
Speaker 2: us will recall that Diddy's lawyers asked for a second
Speaker 2: time for a miss trial, and the judge gave the
Speaker 2: prosecution and yesterday to come back with its response to
Speaker 2: this mistrial quickly. To sum up, the defense says that
Speaker 2: because the prosecution put Brianna Bunglin on the stand and
Speaker 2: she claimed that did he dangled her off that seventeenth
Speaker 2: floor balcony on a day that he was actually in
Speaker 2: New York and not in la and had been in
Speaker 2: New York days before and days after that. The prosecution
Speaker 2: should have known that it was impossible and should never
Speaker 2: have put her on the stand, and therefore should the
Speaker 2: trial should be over. The judge disagreed, but it was
Speaker 2: awesome what the judge said when he denied the defense's
Speaker 2: request for a miss trial. He did give them a nod.
Speaker 1: And he should have. Look, this was a look they
Speaker 1: have been. They've done a decent job in the crossing.
Speaker 1: They're doing their job in cross examinations of all the
Speaker 1: witnesses so far. This was a moment that all of
Speaker 1: us said, Holy hell, how did you miss? That? This
Speaker 1: had been the centerpiece. So much of her testimony is
Speaker 1: the fact that she said, this guy, this bad guy,
Speaker 1: this monster, on this terrible night, beating down the door,
Speaker 1: he comes in and he grabs me, lifts me up,
Speaker 1: he tosses me on furniture, he lifts me over the balcony.
Speaker 1: She was specific September the twenty six, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: You'll probably never forget that date. You've said it so
Speaker 2: many times.
Speaker 1: But that was the one she's DoPT with. How can
Speaker 1: you put this important witness on the stand and then yes,
Speaker 1: did the attorneys presented an actual, real, physical, literal receipt
Speaker 1: showing he wasn't just in New York that day, but
Speaker 1: almost a whole week the days surrounding. How can they
Speaker 1: make that mistake?
Speaker 2: He was on tour, so it wasn't really that hard
Speaker 2: to figure out. Yes, that's the other thing. I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: he was on tour, Yes, so those dates would have
Speaker 2: been readily available. So anyway, what the judge said to
Speaker 2: the defense was, well, it was a real Perry Mason
Speaker 2: moment for you guys, but not grounds to toss the case.
Speaker 2: But he did give the defense team a compliment.
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of cool. He said, look here,
Speaker 1: you got them. You got them on this one. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna give a mistrial, but yeah, you won that
Speaker 1: round exactly.
Speaker 2: And the other thing, Alexandra Shapiro, one of Diddy's attorneys,
Speaker 2: asked the judge if she could go on record to
Speaker 2: state that the government should never have called Brianna Bunglein
Speaker 2: to testify to that specific event. And she did that
Speaker 2: because she's, as most people would point out, legal experts
Speaker 2: who are much smarter than me on these types of moments,
Speaker 2: was doing that potentially to set up grounds for an appeal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was I mean, what a moment in
Speaker 1: this trial. And again another mistrial. This is twice within
Speaker 1: the three weeks. Has it been that they asked for
Speaker 1: another mistrial? You think, what's going on? What's going on? Look,
Speaker 1: a case this complicated, certainly won this high profile. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised we haven't had more emotions for mistrial. This is
Speaker 1: just what they do. You take your chance, why not?
Speaker 1: Why not? And see what happened. So we probably haven't
Speaker 1: seen the last. But he had to handle that this morning.
Speaker 1: There's something that else going on this morning that at
Speaker 1: least the folks who are in the room, the reporters
Speaker 1: are in the room kind of scratching their heads about.
Speaker 1: Can't figure out. There was a big powow yesterday between
Speaker 1: the attorneys and the judge and the judges chambers. Nobody
Speaker 1: exactly knew what that was about. They've come out today
Speaker 1: now ropes and they're talking about apparently a juror in
Speaker 1: particular is being talked about or discussed. The defense wants
Speaker 1: to keep the juror. The prosecution doesn't know is what
Speaker 1: we know at this point. But this is a mystery
Speaker 1: juror and what's the issue.
Speaker 2: I know we will hopefully find out at some point,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Diddy's legal team wants to keep the juror
Speaker 2: in the trial. Prosecutors say they want more time to
Speaker 2: investigate the juror. So we're not exactly sure what that
Speaker 2: means for now the juror is going to stay in place,
Speaker 2: but certainly there could be another announcement about that and whoever. Well,
Speaker 2: we are listening to reporters who are in the courtroom
Speaker 2: and they say the whole courtroom was buzzing with conversation
Speaker 2: trying to figure out which sure what it could be about,
Speaker 2: but nobody knows. And they said that Diddy himself seemed
Speaker 2: very engrossed in the conversation with his defense attorneys after
Speaker 2: they were huddling.
Speaker 1: How many alternates do they have? They usually do about six,
Speaker 1: don't they?
Speaker 2: They get me somewhere around that they have plenty to Yeah,
Speaker 2: if they need to get rid of this juror for
Speaker 2: whatever fairness, they have plenty who've been sitting in and
Speaker 2: listening to everything.
Speaker 1: You could step in, step right in, and that's the
Speaker 1: point of having alternates. Folks, you know, wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: go through this whole process, then you lose one jur
Speaker 1: and then have to start this thing over again. So
Speaker 1: they got some standbys, but we don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with this juror, in particular now to the actual testimony.
Speaker 1: There was some fresh testimony this morning that's going on again. Jane.
Speaker 1: She is a Jane Does testifying under that pseudonym robe.
Speaker 1: She's one of four alleged victims that the government is
Speaker 1: really building their case on. She got on the stand
Speaker 1: last Thursday, and she has been under direct examination up
Speaker 1: until now, so the cross examination is starting. We'll get
Speaker 1: into her full day of testimony, which wrapped up yesterday.
Speaker 1: We want to give folks now the highlights kind of
Speaker 1: what we've heard so far this morning, which once again
Speaker 1: continues to.
Speaker 2: Amaze yes, because it has me torn. We'll go over
Speaker 2: all of the unbelievable details that she testified to on Monday.
Speaker 2: But today, with the defense having their opportunity to show
Speaker 2: a softer, kinder side of Diddy and their relationship, it's
Speaker 2: making you have mixed feelings, which is exactly what they're
Speaker 2: hoping the jurors will feel like. But she talked about
Speaker 2: how Diddy was her baby, how she liked to give
Speaker 2: him foot rubs. I mean some of that is intimate,
Speaker 2: but also interesting that there mostly was good times.
Speaker 1: It was sweet. Yes, we don't hear any every day,
Speaker 1: so we do this podcast every day. I don't remember
Speaker 1: describing anything about him that someone would deem sweet. Yes,
Speaker 1: he liked foot rubs. His favorite show. Are they gonna Dateline?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if they want to, but yes,
Speaker 2: apparently Diddy's favorite show was Dateline.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to work in a promo.
Speaker 2: Dateline Diddy loves us, Dateline will be doing a story
Speaker 2: about Ditty when all but it was okay, he's just
Speaker 2: like us, That's what.
Speaker 1: They want us to think. He's just like us.
Speaker 2: He likes to watch murder in the evenings. We like
Speaker 2: murder in the mornings. How different are we? A lot?
Speaker 2: A lot, a lot please after everything we've heard.
Speaker 1: But yes, that's what.
Speaker 2: They're trying to do. They're humanizing him, they're normalizing their relationship.
Speaker 2: They're trying to give jurors a fuller picture of what
Speaker 2: their relationship was actually like.
Speaker 1: Again, folks, that we as we're talking to you here,
Speaker 1: you have heard so much and read so much about
Speaker 1: this Ditty trial. Now listen to this. The woman on
Speaker 1: the stand right now testifying at the behest of the prosecution,
Speaker 1: so essentially testifying against Ditty is on the stand and
Speaker 1: this morning talked about this is the man that reintroduced
Speaker 1: her to religion.
Speaker 2: That was another thing.
Speaker 1: This is the man who got her back into religion
Speaker 1: connected with God. This is the guy, she says, would
Speaker 1: watch sermons on TV. They would do this together and
Speaker 1: have robes insightful conversations about life, love, and religion. Wow.
Speaker 2: She also talked about the fact that I believe they
Speaker 2: did have the receipts, and she said that sounded about right.
Speaker 2: That over the course of their relationship, he's given her
Speaker 2: around one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. He encouraged her
Speaker 2: business ambitions. She apparently had a clothing venture. He invested
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars into that. He put forty thousand dollars
Speaker 2: onto her apartment, first and last month's rent and a
Speaker 2: security deposit. And he also was paying for her legal
Speaker 2: fees throughout all of this. So they're showing him being
Speaker 2: this generous provider and that.
Speaker 1: Was in his best interest. The legal fees, I mean
Speaker 1: because a lot of the lawyers and what she needed
Speaker 1: was essentially to protect her. She was essentially right robes
Speaker 1: on his side up until last when that video came out,
Speaker 1: and when and Cassie's lawsuit came out. This woman, which
Speaker 1: we should not, has not sued him in civil court
Speaker 1: and says she does not plan to. But when all
Speaker 1: of that stuff was going on, she was still fully
Speaker 1: in a relationship.
Speaker 2: It sounds as though they weren't out of a relationship
Speaker 2: until after he was arrested.
Speaker 1: Yes, until last September, and she didn't get she was
Speaker 1: not cooperating with the government. The government didn't have her
Speaker 1: as a part of their case until after the raids
Speaker 1: and Cassie's stuff took place, so she wasn't a part
Speaker 1: of them building a case against them until after the fact.
Speaker 1: She essentially sitting up there as a woman, as horrific
Speaker 1: as it is, is someone who seems to be in
Speaker 1: his camp.
Speaker 2: What's interesting, though, is that to me makes all of
Speaker 2: her damning testimony that much more credible and believable, because.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be here. I love and
Speaker 1: she said that today I love him. She was asked
Speaker 1: how she felt about does she still love him today
Speaker 1: on the stand this morning, folks, this woman who went
Speaker 1: through all that horror that's been described says she loves
Speaker 1: this man.
Speaker 2: And that makes her so credible to me and I
Speaker 2: think to the jury. So I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: going to work. It seems like that would actually work
Speaker 2: against Ditty because what she testified to was horrific, which
Speaker 2: we're going to get into in just a second, but
Speaker 2: to know that she still loves him, and this was
Speaker 2: one thing that was a little bit troubling for me
Speaker 2: listening to this morning. So Jane talked about the love
Speaker 2: contract that she had with Ditty, and that's where she
Speaker 2: was being paid I believe ten thousand dollars a month
Speaker 2: for doing freak offs in exchange for freak offs. So
Speaker 2: they actually have audio exchanges back and forth from Ditty
Speaker 2: and Jane where Ditty says, got your contract, find yourself
Speaker 2: a nice little spot, meaning an apartment, and then he
Speaker 2: said that he was addicted to Jane. He said to her,
Speaker 2: you are the crack pipe. That's my new name for you,
Speaker 2: crackpipe or should I call you CP. But what Jane
Speaker 2: responded to in her own voice in this audio message
Speaker 2: in real time was this yay to your contract, I
Speaker 2: am dying at your voicemail crackpipe is so real for
Speaker 2: the both of us. It's definitely mutual. And her voice
Speaker 2: was described as giddy by those who heard the audio message.
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like coercion.
Speaker 1: So in your last breath almost you said that it
Speaker 1: sounds more credible because she is talking about how much
Speaker 1: she loves them and doesn't want to be there so right, So,
Speaker 1: on one hand, that makes all of her stories more credible.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have any reason to come up here and lie.
Speaker 1: But then on the other hand, when you hear that
Speaker 1: she was happy and excited, it sounds like a woman
Speaker 1: who wanted to be there experiencing all of those things.
Speaker 1: What does a juror do with that?
Speaker 2: I am my head is spinning right now, because let's
Speaker 2: go over some of what Jane testified to on Monday.
Speaker 2: This was the really hard to even listen to and
Speaker 2: get your head around to stimony that is in complete
Speaker 2: contrast to this loving sweet foot rub nights, watching Dayline,
Speaker 2: listening to your pastor in the morning. I can't put
Speaker 2: those two things together.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, Monday was a that was a rough
Speaker 1: day of testimony. I mean, we've heard a lot throughout
Speaker 1: from Mia who's the pseudonym as well, but then Cassiventurifine
Speaker 1: for several days and all of their stories. Would you
Speaker 1: not agree this way? Jane testify to reading Cassie Venturafines lawsuit.
Speaker 1: She says she was reading her own story. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: couldn't believe the details in this.
Speaker 2: She said, she almost painted it's her life.
Speaker 1: Right there, somebody else experienced and she had no idea.
Speaker 2: She thought she was the only one. She thought she
Speaker 2: was the only one who was enduring this to try
Speaker 2: and hope for a relationship with him, for all loving
Speaker 2: life with him, and realized, oh my god, this is
Speaker 2: just on repeat. I'm just the next person, the next
Speaker 2: girl to go through this. But she you know, you
Speaker 2: pointed this out we were talking. It doesn't sound like
Speaker 2: in their three and a half year relationship Jane and
Speaker 2: Ditty's that he ever physically assaulted her until this past summer.
Speaker 1: Correct, she hasn't testified about assaults. She hasn't about him
Speaker 1: forcing himself on her at any point either. It's just
Speaker 1: been a matter of the free costs and corrosion.
Speaker 2: Yes, But the assault she described on Monday was horrific.
Speaker 2: That she was at her place and she was hoping
Speaker 2: for a romantic night with him. She had candles everywhere
Speaker 2: all over the house. She brought up a younger woman
Speaker 2: who she heard rumors about that Diddy might be seeing
Speaker 2: on the side, and they got into a fight.
Speaker 1: And it's important the date is important. This was in
Speaker 1: June of last year, folks, So June of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: she was still dating this guy.
Speaker 2: Almost exactly a year ago, with a week to spare
Speaker 2: June eighteenth, twenty twenty four, she said. When they got
Speaker 2: into the fight because this woman, I guess was twenty
Speaker 2: five years younger, she called Diddy a pedophile because she
Speaker 2: was angry. Through a candle, she pushed his head on
Speaker 2: a marble countertop. So she admits that she started the physical.
Speaker 1: Oh, this was They spent a lot of time talking
Speaker 1: about this incident on the stand, and it's a unbelievable, horrific.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a horror movie night where someone is
Speaker 1: literally running from somebody trying to kill.
Speaker 2: That they turned into a dateline episode, like actually.
Speaker 1: She did this was absolutely this is nuts. The thing
Speaker 1: about now, to your point, she said, she unloaded on
Speaker 1: him she got the worst of it, but she admitted
Speaker 1: to being violent, which included, like you said, set him
Speaker 1: off by calling him that name. She says, all this
Speaker 1: been pent up anger of hers came out. She's throwing candles.
Speaker 1: There's wax all over the place. But yes, at one point,
Speaker 1: he was kind of leaning on a marble countertop, and
Speaker 1: she took his head and pushed it and slammed it
Speaker 1: down on that marble countertop. She admitted to all this. Yep,
Speaker 1: but this sounded like full on fisticuffs between two grown,
Speaker 1: equal sized folks, not a man woman fighting like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because as she's telling him, I hate you, I
Speaker 2: hate you, I hate you, she said, she was repeatedly
Speaker 2: saying that to him. She ran to the master bedroom
Speaker 2: and hid in a closet. He broke down the doors
Speaker 2: of the bedroom. She tried to run out of the bedroom.
Speaker 2: She said he kicked her in the back of the leg.
Speaker 2: She fell, and then he said he put her in
Speaker 2: a chokehold. She punched. He punched her back. She had bruises.
Speaker 2: She said she had a black eye. She said, he
Speaker 2: started punching my head. He started kicking me. He started
Speaker 2: saying all types of things, and she said, he told
Speaker 2: her to Well, this is when she ran out of
Speaker 2: the house, right, So.
Speaker 1: This fight is going on. She goes to a closet,
Speaker 1: gets away from him. Eventually, like you described, she says,
Speaker 1: she got out of the choke hold. She gets runs outside.
Speaker 1: This is where she lives now, and she's hiding somewhere.
Speaker 1: She's hiding outside for two hours, she said, two hours,
Speaker 1: hoping he would leave, assuming he would be gone when
Speaker 1: she got back. But she got back, he was still
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: He was still in there, and you know what he
Speaker 2: said to her, put some ice on those bruises and
Speaker 2: put on an outfit, meaning some lingerie because he had
Speaker 2: already called a male escort to show up, and he said,
Speaker 2: now you're going to perform for me after that horrific beating?
Speaker 1: Was this Anton? I think they even have the male essay.
Speaker 1: It was Anton.
Speaker 2: It was Anton.
Speaker 1: But she said when she came back, as she was
Speaker 1: trying to get cleaned up, he was still assaulting her
Speaker 1: while she was in the shower. He was smacking her
Speaker 1: while she was in the shower. Now, it's one thing.
Speaker 1: Do you hear this story, the fight, How horrific that is.
Speaker 1: This is the first time, right, We've heard a story
Speaker 1: where it combined two of the horrors until one night
Speaker 1: like back to back, allegedly beat somebody and then allegedly
Speaker 1: put somebody through a free cough back to back same night.
Speaker 2: I and I know with all of those horrible details,
Speaker 2: one stood out to me that maybe doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: that big of a deeal to you, but as a woman,
Speaker 2: I just thought, Oh, that's so painful. She's upset. The
Speaker 2: whole thing starts because she's she thinks that he might
Speaker 2: be seeing a younger girl on the side while he's
Speaker 2: got her pinned down. This is what she testifies to.
Speaker 2: He gets that girl, she's in her twenties, on the
Speaker 2: phone and starts having the girl hurl insults at Jane, like,
Speaker 2: so you're so upset that the guy you love you
Speaker 2: think is seeing someone, and now that girl is on
Speaker 2: the phone throwing shade on you. Talk about just inflaming
Speaker 2: your emotions.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that. I didn't understand why that was Wow, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't what are people on? I mean, I suggest
Speaker 1: that's extra met Yeah, I didn't understand. Again, the guy
Speaker 1: who did that is the same guy who got her
Speaker 1: into religion and watched sermons with her on television.
Speaker 2: I can't get my head around that when he's.
Speaker 1: Supposed to do that. And this is the date here
Speaker 1: is very important again, June eighteenth of last year, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four is when this happened. A month earlier, Diddy
Speaker 1: had gotten on social media and made an apology video
Speaker 1: about the Cassie Ventura Fine surveillance video that had come out.
Speaker 1: Promised to be a better person, promised to be a
Speaker 1: better man. I'm gonna do the work. I'm gonna do better.
Speaker 1: He said that to the world. A month later, he
Speaker 1: was beating the hell out of this woman, according to
Speaker 1: her testimony.
Speaker 2: Wow. And that is when she this was in a
Speaker 2: text she sent him. Correct when she said I am
Speaker 2: not an animal. Oh yeah, she sent this text. Again.
Speaker 2: These are real time texts. So again we were talking
Speaker 2: about this in yesterday's episode. How much more effective they
Speaker 2: are in the sense that you're not recalling something, you're
Speaker 2: not misremembering something or adding something to it that didn't
Speaker 2: really happen. This is exactly where she was in that time.
Speaker 1: She writes to Ditty, I don't have the date on
Speaker 1: this one because it is important, but just know this
Speaker 1: was until you. You made this very good point. This
Speaker 1: is better than testimony because this is stuff she wrote
Speaker 1: while she had no idea this was going to go public,
Speaker 1: no idea that she was going to be called to testify.
Speaker 1: There was one you read from her yesterday. I was
Speaker 1: really powerful. But if anybody's listening to the sounds of
Speaker 1: our voices, now stop for a moment and listen to
Speaker 1: this quote that Robot's about to give you, and it
Speaker 1: just guts you. Sometimes even worse than hearing some of
Speaker 1: the details of a freak off of details of a beat.
Speaker 1: This is so that's just this is a tough one
Speaker 1: the stomach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is from Jane writing this to Ditty. I'm
Speaker 2: not an animal. I'm not a porn star. These experiences
Speaker 2: are desensitizing sex for me. My spirit and my soul
Speaker 2: is tired. I need a break. I can't be used
Speaker 2: like this anymore. I wanted to make you happy, but
Speaker 2: it's creating a war inside me.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you almost feel your heart crying when
Speaker 1: you hear that. No woman was pleading with this man.
Speaker 1: Just please te like she's just saying I need a break, right,
Speaker 1: didn't want to break up?
Speaker 2: Oh no, she doesn't want to break up a break
Speaker 2: She does not want to break up. She wants more
Speaker 2: foot rubs and Dateline Friday nights, you know, that's what
Speaker 2: she wanted. And candles and champagne maybe, and not ecstasy
Speaker 2: and multiple male escorts. That's a very different experience. And
Speaker 2: she was even with him as late as August correct
Speaker 2: last year in Miami. That's what she testified to and
Speaker 2: she said, yes, she once again had sex with another
Speaker 2: guy in front of ditty. She said he only wanted
Speaker 2: to have sex with her after she had sex with
Speaker 2: these men.
Speaker 1: Everybody has their kink, everybody has their thing, everybody has
Speaker 1: whatever it is they're into. Not here to judge any
Speaker 1: of that, but it is different to hear. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just some stuff I don't used to hearing now.
Speaker 1: I used to hearing on a day in, day out.
Speaker 2: I've never heard anything like this before. And we watch
Speaker 2: horror movies, and we watched Dateline, and we watch a
Speaker 2: lot of these true crime shows. I haven't heard heard
Speaker 2: anything like this before in my life.
Speaker 1: We are going to all that appears, be hearing more
Speaker 1: about it for the next couple of days. She's expected again.
Speaker 1: You remind me she's the one that's supposed to have
Speaker 1: a trip on Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, so they are trying
Speaker 1: to get done with her in all this testimony. By
Speaker 1: certainly she has to take a flight. Is it really
Speaker 1: just are they saying it's a vacation. They say they
Speaker 1: haven't said an international flight.
Speaker 2: But I know that the defense said I read this
Speaker 2: that they believe they had two days of cross examination.
Speaker 1: So it's got to be redirect, doesn't I I mean,
Speaker 1: how long will that take? A half? It seems like.
Speaker 2: Maybe she could move her flight twenty four hours. It's
Speaker 2: kind of important, but we'll see what happens. How much
Speaker 2: that plays into her availability? And do you have the
Speaker 2: option to say you're not available.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just trying to accommodate her, you know, it's
Speaker 1: trying to be nice. This is difficult enough. Probably maybe,
Speaker 1: and we should notice. Well I didn't think of it
Speaker 1: until now. There was an expert that testified on the
Speaker 1: mindset the behavior of abuse victims. I can't remember her name.
Speaker 1: I think was Hughes. Testified a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: for the prosecution. But she was up there to kind
Speaker 1: of explain how and why a victim might not leave
Speaker 1: their abuser. The prosecution has asked to bring her back.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: They want her to testify again after Jane Judd said no,
Speaker 1: that actually makes.
Speaker 2: The judge said no, just said no, Oh wow, I
Speaker 2: can see why they would want to.
Speaker 1: But they would want to come back and try to
Speaker 1: get her to explained Nope, you don't get that option
Speaker 1: to do that again. So yeah, I thought that was
Speaker 1: to your point. I saw you react on your faith. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean what that's interesting. So they feel like there's
Speaker 1: some point they need to make that they're missing after
Speaker 1: Jane's testament, we'll just have to remind.
Speaker 2: Yours of what she testified to in their closing statements. Well,
Speaker 2: we want to thank all of you for listening and
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to put out these podcasts every
Speaker 2: day as long as there is a juicy update, and
Speaker 2: my goodness, there have been no shortage of those so far,
Speaker 2: So thank you for listening to us on this rainy Tuesday,
Speaker 2: but we will be back with more, so stay tuned
Speaker 2: for that. Have a wonderful day, everybody,