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Speaker 2: Spokes Hey, you do that. You know, I wish understand.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to lead on their bread fall.
Speaker 3: Two fifty, fall that two fifty. I'm just trying to understand.
Speaker 3: When didn't put you in the hall? They did so
Speaker 3: there was a ceremony. You went up there, so you
Speaker 3: went back, had a little.
Speaker 2: Speech and everything.
Speaker 3: What man gave a little speech, you know, no thank
Speaker 3: a couple of people here and there.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's a good time, good time. I'll
Speaker 4: be right up in there. Nice picture had hair in
Speaker 4: the picture.
Speaker 2: It was cool.
Speaker 3: So so at that point where you still remember the
Speaker 3: team here, oh yeah, I I think it was twenty fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: I believe they celebrated you right away. Wait wait, wait later.
Speaker 4: He's in love it varsity team, right, so this.
Speaker 3: Is a beautiful honor right there. They proud of him.
Speaker 3: A man is you know, he's actually claiming the university
Speaker 3: on the you know, Sunday night football intro.
Speaker 2: You said to university. It's aldo.
Speaker 4: You said he didn't he didn't do the scandrid school hard.
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 3: Something centralized, stayed on the back, right, he refused. He
Speaker 3: was so so, he claimed, and my man, could you
Speaker 3: couldn't even leave it?
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't say, like do a Bury church endowed scholarship?
Speaker 3: Happened because you get five years to endow one. By
Speaker 3: the way, you didn't do that. You just said, my
Speaker 3: man didn't even leave a check for the booster.
Speaker 2: It's coming.
Speaker 4: It's coming. It's coming. It's coming, man, it's coming. It's
Speaker 4: got to figure out who to who to get it.
Speaker 4: So that's what I gotta go.
Speaker 3: We've been doing the show.
Speaker 2: How many years?
Speaker 3: Half decades?
Speaker 2: What kind of what? What?
Speaker 5: What did Trump say about his playing? It's a what
Speaker 5: that an outline of a player?
Speaker 3: What is it the concept concept. You know, I gotta
Speaker 3: figure out Jason Garrett was coaching, we.
Speaker 2: Were doing.
Speaker 3: I gotta figure out, you know, who gets what?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So you know, Mike McCarthy's on year five, so we've
Speaker 3: been doing this show since Garrett was his six years.
Speaker 5: It's almost he's gonna get you.
Speaker 3: I mean, you could you do the Sally Struggles? You know,
Speaker 3: just thirty cents a month? I got what you did
Speaker 3: that over time? You catch y'all, cat, y'all, Okay, got y'all, Okay.
Speaker 4: I gotta figure it out. The concepts almost their concepts
Speaker 4: almost there.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna throw a curve ball. I just
Speaker 3: watched I don't watch first take, but it's all behind us.
Speaker 3: And then stephen A in the headline says, is it
Speaker 3: a mistake for the Cowboys not to pursue Adams? This
Speaker 3: is why I don't watch these shows.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: I mean, right here on the players lounge, brought you
Speaker 3: by Aristocrat Game, we're smart enough to understand there's no
Speaker 3: way in the world that you can pay C. D.
Speaker 3: Lamb over thirty million, and you go bringing Dawnta Adams
Speaker 3: and you're paying over thirty million dollars and you got
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons on deck, and you know he's gonna want
Speaker 3: thirty million at least, Where does it make any sense
Speaker 3: at all? And I'd like to think, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say think I know. Stephen A is a smart guy. Okay,
Speaker 3: forget all the theatrics that he puts in the He's
Speaker 3: a smart individual. He has access to the salary cap,
Speaker 3: he's got access to go to spoke track anything. And
Speaker 3: just see that it doesn't work. Math ain't math, The math,
Speaker 3: ain't man, ain't math. Nobody's paying sixty million dollars to
Speaker 3: two wide receivers.
Speaker 4: Can't do it.
Speaker 3: You can't do it with a with a superstar defensive
Speaker 3: player that's coming up? Why in this whole? And then, oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, is going to cost you a draft pick,
Speaker 3: a high one, either a first day or second day pick.
Speaker 3: So you're either giving up a one or they get
Speaker 3: asking for too maybe a couple threes. So you do that. Now,
Speaker 3: the ability to bring in cheap talent and have it
Speaker 3: under contract for first round pick five hears like a
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith who's a rookie contract or second round pick
Speaker 3: like a Duran Blair, You're you're you're eliminating this kind
Speaker 3: of thing because the second round pick is gonna be
Speaker 3: four years. That's why I just I just see they're
Speaker 3: dedicating time. And it's like you people out there are
Speaker 3: being fooled by this analysis, and it's like you want
Speaker 3: you want player. You're not one player away.
Speaker 4: You're just not I mean, I can keep you a
Speaker 4: being which you're not just one guy away from. If
Speaker 4: we get this guy, we're going to the next level
Speaker 4: where it's all year.
Speaker 3: If that's just not going, it's not reality. So why
Speaker 3: would you hamstring your team like that? Future picks all
Speaker 3: that out the window for you know, got ah year,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna have next year. So it clicks right,
Speaker 3: and you saw the headline said missing piece, Come on.
Speaker 5: No, it's well it's for real, man, it's the futility
Speaker 5: and the and that whole argument. Nobody's gonna they gotta
Speaker 5: come up with topics every day, you know, and that's
Speaker 5: one of the ones that that people have been talking about.
Speaker 5: Davante Adams is obviously a steal very good wide receiver.
Speaker 5: And if let's just say, if Ceedee Lamb was I
Speaker 5: don't know, year two of his career. Maybe you could
Speaker 5: entertain that the way that you would.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Look, I just think that in the position that the
Speaker 5: Cowboys are in right now, paying DAK and also paying CD,
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 2: If I'm CD, I don't want.
Speaker 3: To hear that.
Speaker 5: Exactly, I don't want to hear I don't want to
Speaker 5: hear that if I'm cdee Lamb, I don't want to
Speaker 5: hear you talking about Devonte Adams. I work my butt
Speaker 5: off all these years to be the number one wide
Speaker 5: receiver in the league, to be considered the top echelon.
Speaker 5: No find me, Tito, find me, Randy, you know, bring
Speaker 5: me some backup singers, give me some guys in here that. Look, man,
Speaker 5: when y'all already targeted me fifteen times and it's the
Speaker 5: second and longer guy that can move a change with me,
Speaker 5: A guy that can help me get this double team
Speaker 5: off me. Oh, by the way, why don't we get
Speaker 5: a running back that can also take the ball on
Speaker 5: first down and do more with it than pick up
Speaker 5: two yards at a time.
Speaker 2: I got a better idea.
Speaker 5: Why don't you give me a three technique that can
Speaker 5: get some stops at the defensive line, so that the
Speaker 5: office isn't taking up at the time off the time
Speaker 5: of possession away from us. That's what we opened up
Speaker 5: talking about as teams having time of possession on the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: So there's so many different things, and I think as
Speaker 5: Cowboy fans, you're just you're two and two right now,
Speaker 5: and you just won against the Giants. I don't care
Speaker 5: if it wasn't the aesthetics of the win. A win
Speaker 5: is a win, and you're two and two. There are
Speaker 5: a lot of teams that wish that they were two
Speaker 5: and two at this point. But this guy is falling.
Speaker 5: Get the Cowboys need this guy or that guy. No,
Speaker 5: you need more than that that one guy, and you
Speaker 5: need your stars to actually not just get the props
Speaker 5: on the outside, like go out there on the field
Speaker 5: and show everybody who you are. I mean, you got
Speaker 5: some first round draft picks that ain't short mazi, you
Speaker 5: got got third round draft picks, Oh so you got
Speaker 5: the second round. You got some guys out here that
Speaker 5: need to prove why they were picked where they were.
Speaker 3: And so this is really it's a public service announcement
Speaker 3: from from from the boys here at the players clubs
Speaker 3: that don't watch this stuff, or if you do watch
Speaker 3: it or consume it, know that it's just not realistic.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: The I mean, honestly, these are lies that they're putting
Speaker 3: out here. They're not pursuing it. The team's out there,
Speaker 3: are coming, but it doesn't make any sense. That's the
Speaker 3: thing that I don't understand is you put out something
Speaker 3: that financially doesn't make any sense. And all you do
Speaker 3: if you follow the team and you realize what they're
Speaker 3: trying to do, the biggest thing they are doing is
Speaker 3: we know Michael Parsons has to be paid and they
Speaker 3: want to retain Michael Parsons. Comes down to that. That
Speaker 3: is that is the focus of this team.
Speaker 5: And but you know what, nobody would love a disaster
Speaker 5: more than Steven A. It is hypothetically that absolutely did
Speaker 5: happen and he came in here and the Cowboys still
Speaker 5: like that didn't fix the run and then you went
Speaker 5: on a losing skid and all I mean like literally
Speaker 5: all went to hell in the hand basket. Oh man,
Speaker 5: he be he would love every minute of that.
Speaker 3: Soss clickbait TV, because you know what they don't want
Speaker 3: to do. They don't want to do a segment on
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins and how that thing is off all
Speaker 3: he okay, I mean what was going on? Or do
Speaker 3: a segment on what happened to the Cincinnati Bengals. Here's
Speaker 3: a team that was what had had the ball, could
Speaker 3: have gone down the field and won a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. And now you're looking at
Speaker 3: here's here's Jamar Chase unsigned, unhappy, Joe Burrow. You didn't
Speaker 3: invested a whole lot of money in Joe, he's not
Speaker 3: living up to it. Or your boy's daddy Duat what
Speaker 3: what somebody talking about Sunshine? That's the game yet? No, no, brother,
Speaker 3: no Sunshine got fifty five million dollars.
Speaker 2: Nobody said nothing.
Speaker 3: Right You you questioning Dak every week? Can we look
Speaker 3: at Trevor Lawrence. Have you seen a guy that's taking
Speaker 3: a bag that much? Who is delivering so little? So little?
Speaker 3: My stupid self picked Jacksonville make the Foot Bowl last year.
Speaker 3: I thought they were on the ride. Hate to see it.
Speaker 2: Man, you talk about hot seat. Peterson is on the
Speaker 2: hot seat too.
Speaker 5: And then I mean you bring up Miami, which would
Speaker 5: be a perfect example of a team that overpaid wide
Speaker 5: receivers and really don't have anywhere else to go. And
Speaker 5: also out by the way, paid their quarterback too, so
Speaker 5: that's a disaster.
Speaker 3: Heck, stay right there. Not only paid your quarterback? Is
Speaker 3: your quarterback going to play again? And do you so
Speaker 3: you're talking about off season? Is they going to the
Speaker 3: off season? What do they do in terms of that position?
Speaker 2: You know what they do?
Speaker 7: Is this?
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 3: Coach is coach Soloka? You know you still? I mean,
Speaker 3: but but I'm just thinking, where are there more legitimate,
Speaker 3: real storylines where there's real stuff going on.
Speaker 2: It's not sexy, that's what.
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right. One of my one of my buddies,
Speaker 3: Mike Hill, when he worked up there, I called him
Speaker 3: one day and it was it was way back when
Speaker 3: t O was here. It's like three days later, after
Speaker 3: something had been squashed about Tarrell. They were talking to
Speaker 3: I said, Mike, why, He's like, oh, we go to
Speaker 3: show me. He's at every meeting it's cowboys and every
Speaker 3: I said, really, even when it's something that's you know, mate,
Speaker 3: He's like, hey man, they want it, so heck it's there.
Speaker 3: That's why I said, this is this is false television.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure, you get it, and you get it.
Speaker 3: Where your friends, your cowboy friends that called you and
Speaker 3: ask you about you really.
Speaker 5: Again, we gotta get it because I can. I can't
Speaker 5: come in here with you. Yeah, let's get Davante that
Speaker 5: with this man. I am not that, not today, not on.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna put that in my mind, not gonna
Speaker 5: have it. What I can't do it, I can't do it.
Speaker 2: I gave it in to take.
Speaker 5: I don't even want to hear that perspective because I
Speaker 5: know in a general football sense that makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 5: You can't do it. And I don't care what the
Speaker 5: salary cap is going to be raised to. I can't
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 3: I God, God, God knows that. Hanging around Clarence too long,
Speaker 3: got Claires got the evil laugh. Clarience Hill of all
Speaker 3: City Dallas, He's got the evil laugh. But all right,
Speaker 3: let's hit our first break up here. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: some of these matchups as the Cowboys and Steelers get
Speaker 3: ready to get down here. I'm sorry I got distracted
Speaker 3: because I'm just just see it. I say, it's just
Speaker 3: it's so frustrating, and it's so frustrating because I keep
Speaker 3: the calls and the stop it. How many times I
Speaker 3: got to tell you this is not believable television.
Speaker 4: Look, Oh, it's not possible, right, It's not possible.
Speaker 3: But that's where I'm just check. Kyle, Yeah, who who
Speaker 3: has two sixty million dollars, I mean two thirty million.
Speaker 4: Dollars quarterback getting safety? You have, Hey, squad, we don't have.
Speaker 5: Not only do we not have the money, we got
Speaker 5: two players that we making one. We just call them
Speaker 5: the Jalens.
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Speaker 3: deep into conversation about some of the matchups here in
Speaker 3: the Stealer Cowboys rivalry JJ Watt t J TJJ. I
Speaker 3: was gonna ask a question, is who's the better one?
Speaker 3: It was JJ or t J in your opinion and therime.
Speaker 3: I mean, just just as a player right now, just
Speaker 3: when you're looking at the crew, he's two. Got who's
Speaker 3: the better player. That's TOUGHJ. You going with TJ.
Speaker 2: I'm going TJ.
Speaker 5: You going with TJ is the the boy, the master
Speaker 5: of disaster, his his and look, I've seen JJ completely
Speaker 5: take over games in his prime also, But t J
Speaker 5: Watt is like he's put like a man possessed. He
Speaker 5: is as he goes, Pittsburgh goes, and it ain't even
Speaker 5: close when he's on his thing.
Speaker 2: Even with the other guys out there. I mean, t J.
Speaker 5: And it's hard for me to see. You know how
Speaker 5: much I love the bazooka. You know how much I
Speaker 5: love the bazooka. But when I sit down because I
Speaker 5: watched still the football because of my family members dog
Speaker 5: this this this guy is different.
Speaker 2: He's got a different speed, it's a different motor. He
Speaker 2: plays big.
Speaker 5: He I mean, they design things for him that I
Speaker 5: think it works because of his size, in the in
Speaker 5: the scheme that they play.
Speaker 2: I just that's my opinion.
Speaker 3: Nothing against TJ.
Speaker 2: Because TJ is a doult Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, but we're talking about a three time Defensive
Speaker 4: Player of the Year short winner in JJ Watt, someone
Speaker 4: who not only did it on the outside, you move
Speaker 4: him inside he was just as effective. I mean, this
Speaker 4: dude was unbelievable, not at just sacking the quarterback, stopping
Speaker 4: the run, forcing fumbles, and oh.
Speaker 3: By the way, he did it on both sides of
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 4: Offensively, he has multiple touchdowns as a tight end, not
Speaker 4: only that defensive player of the year three times a
Speaker 4: point we're sitting there. TJ is great. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: TJ is an unbelievable player. I should have been you know,
Speaker 4: here's at the taco But.
Speaker 3: Anyways, is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Let him know.
Speaker 3: But you're talking about a generational player.
Speaker 2: JJ Way.
Speaker 5: Some of that also is recncy bias too. It is,
Speaker 5: and that's the that's the argument that you have in basketball. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that argument in boxing is recentcy bias. I just saw
Speaker 5: him last year. You know, I just saw it last year.
Speaker 5: So you I mean, as you remind me of how
Speaker 5: bad this man is. And also a oh by the way,
Speaker 5: he got multiple touchdowns as a tight end. That's a
Speaker 5: conversations to limit Aaron Donald. The family reunions be lit.
Speaker 4: Yo, what I'm Derek Watt though, that's wrong. Brothers over here,
Speaker 4: you playing food.
Speaker 3: Sick, ain't gonna.
Speaker 2: Lie's probably their favorite baby too. That's that's fact. You
Speaker 2: gotta make up for it.
Speaker 3: He's done a little better than Cooper Man made to
Speaker 3: leave league, Maydey to the league. We gotta give him that.
Speaker 3: You know, might have hung around. I don't know if
Speaker 3: he hung around and got a pension or not, but
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So TJ's got how many
Speaker 3: DEFENSI Player of the Years always got at least one
Speaker 3: one or two.
Speaker 7: One?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought only one one.
Speaker 3: It's at least one. We had at least one in
Speaker 3: the bad. So when you said you know JJ's three times,
Speaker 3: I mean TJ's he's He's got at least one if
Speaker 3: not to And that's that division is also what's that
Speaker 3: of a division? I don't want to say that JJ
Speaker 3: was in a weaker division, but we darned sure know
Speaker 3: that that AFC North is something, man. And you out
Speaker 3: here playing with Lamar Jackson in your division. Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: and the Bengals made a super Bowl during TJ's time
Speaker 3: with the Steels. This is this division and no, no,
Speaker 3: no punk division.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: That's and you're playing outside when it's all said in Dune,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be I think it's gonna be a pretty
Speaker 3: interesting argument about how to stack these resumes because JJ's
Speaker 3: got he's got a resume that he's going to be
Speaker 3: in the discussion for the Hall of Fame. Okay, you win,
Speaker 3: and I'm not. I don't know the exact number, but
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure since they named that award, everybody who
Speaker 3: has won it has gotten into the pro football. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Stephan Gilmore is going to be in the conversation.
Speaker 2: I'm still going yeah.
Speaker 3: So so I would say, I would venture to say
Speaker 3: JJ is going to be in the conversation, and I
Speaker 3: expect him to get in. Little brother is putting up
Speaker 3: kind kind of thing this so uh ultimately back this. Heck,
Speaker 3: what do they do?
Speaker 5: You have to You have to make sure we talked
Speaker 5: about it yesterday with Nate. You can't relegate all your
Speaker 5: attention over there. But as much as you can get
Speaker 5: guiding some help, get him some help, get him some help,
Speaker 5: and get him some help early. Try and run at
Speaker 5: them as much as you possibly can try. You know,
Speaker 5: this is this is one of those defenses that when
Speaker 5: they got you in the hip pocket, they keep you
Speaker 5: in the hip pocket. And if you're not scoring any
Speaker 5: points against that defense, and that's when they get an
Speaker 5: opportunity to put you in their fun house and run
Speaker 5: a bunch of extra men that you, blitzers, whatever you
Speaker 5: want to call them. But they they have the tendency
Speaker 5: to do a good job with covering, scheming and hiding
Speaker 5: their disguises. I think Dak is gonna have to play flawless.
Speaker 5: I've said it before. He's gonna have to have a
Speaker 5: really great game against them. And undoubtedly you have to
Speaker 5: get help from somebody else not named you know, CD
Speaker 5: or Ferguson with with you know, with Cooks even being hurt.
Speaker 5: You you have to get some extra production. And on
Speaker 5: top of that, you have to make them respect the
Speaker 5: D ball. If they don't respect the D ball at all,
Speaker 5: then obviously they can bring up a lot of their
Speaker 5: coverages and play shallow on you and take away some
Speaker 5: of that quick game that Dak likes to play with. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I played with a lot of you know,
Speaker 5: great pass rushers in my time the Market Square, you know,
Speaker 5: clay As Campbell, all those guys, and from talking to
Speaker 5: them what they said.
Speaker 4: You know, how to not neutralize them, but to make them,
Speaker 4: you know, think a little bit more. Was like you
Speaker 4: just said, run at them. But also the screen game.
Speaker 4: You know, when you kind of let those guys in
Speaker 4: and they think, all they got a free Western, you
Speaker 4: pop it right behind them a couple of times for
Speaker 4: a screenplay, that kind of slows down the process because
Speaker 4: they might be the guy and they're thinking in the
Speaker 4: back of the head, wait a second, is this just.
Speaker 2: A screen Is this fool's goal once again?
Speaker 3: So that'll slow them down just a little bit.
Speaker 4: And I think you have the guys on the office
Speaker 4: side of the football for the Dallas cow Wis to
Speaker 4: do just that. We talked about turping earlier. You know,
Speaker 4: I feel like Davonte or not Davante, Rico Dado. And
Speaker 4: then you also got a guy by the name of
Speaker 4: Deuce Vaughan who can go out there and be the
Speaker 4: screen type of guys. But when you talk we talked
Speaker 4: to Nate yesterday getting the ball out of his hands quick,
Speaker 4: the screen game and running directly at those type of guys.
Speaker 4: They make some plays because TJ. Watt is a you know,
Speaker 4: like he will be a Hall of Famer eventually, He's
Speaker 4: gonna make some plays. But if you run at him
Speaker 4: and have that screen game, I think that'll slow his
Speaker 4: game down just a little bit.
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy talking about rookie cornerback Kaalen Carson said quote,
Speaker 3: he needs to make a big step today. He's getting better.
Speaker 3: I don't have a strong feeling either way. He was
Speaker 3: limited in yesterday's practice.
Speaker 4: He was full go today. Like I seen him out
Speaker 4: there to day I practice. He had pads on twenty one,
Speaker 4: was out there rolling in the team sessions. You know,
Speaker 4: I saw him getting that release work with Harris out there.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's, you know, a bona fide.
Speaker 4: He showed what he needs to go to get to
Speaker 4: get in that next level because there was no big
Speaker 4: time thud up that I saw from him, and that's
Speaker 4: the shoulder injury. So to me, I saw him out
Speaker 4: there full go practice. He didn't have like a red
Speaker 4: don't touch me, you know, jersey on. He had the
Speaker 4: twenty one out there, So I think that's a good
Speaker 4: sign going into the Stillers game for Carson to get
Speaker 4: out there and play boy.
Speaker 5: You need something, You need something out of this corner
Speaker 5: back room. We had a guy last week. We didn't
Speaker 5: neither one of us knew the name of the guy.
Speaker 5: Is he you know, twenty seven. Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 5: it's cool because he came in. He got an interception
Speaker 5: in Booth.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. But right boot my man Booth. Yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 5: That's different. That's different. I mean he got burnt burned
Speaker 5: on that on that one route. And you know, I
Speaker 5: want Kayla, Kayla Carson. We need you for another game man,
Speaker 5: until we can we can get our guy back, because
Speaker 5: right now he has been We've missed him like that
Speaker 5: is a big That is a big absence in that secondary.
Speaker 2: You know, when you have an all pro that's missing.
Speaker 2: This has such an impact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you're saying, we're in the locker room
Speaker 3: before people approted him. Can hear people? How do you pronounce?
Speaker 2: How do you pronounce it?
Speaker 3: And you know what I said, young man, you got
Speaker 3: that interception young man talked about. I was always thought
Speaker 3: the people to go, I all know you're not playing
Speaker 3: golf A big dog, big.
Speaker 5: Right, big dog, young man, my man, Chris Chris Pine,
Speaker 5: help us out, Christy pronounce his name, young young bull,
Speaker 5: young boy.
Speaker 2: You there to seven go with that? On the show,
Speaker 2: who said Harry up playing get back?
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's that's you. Don't know, man, man,
Speaker 3: you got it done. That pick Dix was just raving
Speaker 3: about it. You don't even use the name. It starts
Speaker 3: referencing Mike Michael was was was was talking on out there.
Speaker 5: Had Now we need him man, especially we start yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: we need playing back. You know, we we need playing
Speaker 5: back to to to kind of settle what we We
Speaker 5: hadn't been able to see blading digs together in so long.
Speaker 5: I mean, we don't even know how effective these two
Speaker 5: guys could be. You just know that there's two all
Speaker 5: pros playing together. You know, I can't wait to get
Speaker 5: that combination back. But you talk about this game and
Speaker 5: Stillers have a wide receiver that could truly victimize your secondary.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a he's a big guy. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: call him a burner, but he definitely is one of
Speaker 5: those guys. Even if you try and double team him,
Speaker 5: he has such a catch radius that he can.
Speaker 4: Hog you talking about pickings, right, yes, Well, let me
Speaker 4: ask you all this question. There is the better match
Speaker 4: for this game. I know we're going against fields, but
Speaker 4: would you rather see fields in this situation than a
Speaker 4: danger russ out there?
Speaker 3: Russell, let's right, because.
Speaker 4: I mean Russe for you know, he could throw the
Speaker 4: deep ball, that's one thing he can expose the secondary,
Speaker 4: but he ain't gonna do much other than that.
Speaker 3: So would y'all rather see Rust in this situation?
Speaker 2: Or Fields?
Speaker 5: I know we're gonna play Fields, But yeah, I think
Speaker 5: the only thing that worries me about Phields is the
Speaker 5: design runs that Smith puts him in. And we know
Speaker 5: that this defense is gonna struggle against the run anyway,
Speaker 5: and especially when you can load up on those Reid
Speaker 5: option plays on those boots and he's one on one
Speaker 5: with the guy, you know, I think those those are
Speaker 5: things that we've seen early in the season where our
Speaker 5: defense has struggled. And I don't want to compare him
Speaker 5: to Lamar Jackson because Lamar Jackson is special and you
Speaker 5: know it when you see it, but Justin Fields ain't
Speaker 5: but that far off from that kind of speed, and
Speaker 5: so those are the things that I worry about. We
Speaker 5: have been able to keep contained on this defense. And
Speaker 5: when you can't do that and you allow guys like
Speaker 5: Justin Fields will let his athletic ability flourish, that's where
Speaker 5: you get into some deep water.
Speaker 2: But hell yeah, I would have much rather rush.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, justin Fields gives me the thought process of
Speaker 3: Joshua Dobbs when the Cowboys had to deal with him
Speaker 3: in Tennessee one year, the next year Arizona, and he
Speaker 3: ended up beating them last year. Just hey, you take
Speaker 3: a little sleep and next thing you know, man, he's
Speaker 3: got you. Russ is not going to do that anymore,
Speaker 3: and not to be just be keeping it real. Russ
Speaker 3: is like Zeke twenty sixteen, Russ twenty sixteen, Zeke is,
Speaker 3: They're not the same. Father time is caught up with them.
Speaker 3: And that's that's just the nature of football. The best
Speaker 3: football is gone. And if you really think about it,
Speaker 3: there's a reason that not only did they get Russ,
Speaker 3: but they went out and got Fields too. They had
Speaker 3: question marks about you in Pittsburgh. And it's not like
Speaker 3: Russ came out there just took this job. They were
Speaker 3: in competition and he got injured and so you know,
Speaker 3: and nobody's sitting right here, man, we're about to get
Speaker 3: Russ back.
Speaker 2: No, no, you don't hear that.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're not hearing that at all. So
Speaker 3: it's kind of, oh, yeah, you're on the team, let's right, right.
Speaker 5: But that's in another wordy with with Phiels is third down.
Speaker 5: Third down is a concern of mine because if this
Speaker 5: defense is out there for longer than they need to
Speaker 5: and they can't get off the field. We've seen some
Speaker 5: third and loans get converted against this defense, and that's
Speaker 5: what I think the danger is with a guy like Feels.
Speaker 5: They like to line up in that pistol formation, and
Speaker 5: you know the defense is going to be reading off
Speaker 5: what every everything that nag he does. You lose contain,
Speaker 5: you lose a guy like that, he's able to keep
Speaker 5: third down going. And we've seen, man something when these
Speaker 5: defense have been there at their worst, it's when they
Speaker 5: can't get off the field on third down.
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Speaker 3: Heckmharrison appreciate thereen We are in the players line, watch
Speaker 3: you by Aristocratic game and got Barry Church here form
Speaker 3: a Cowboy safety I have knew he scrugs, all right,
Speaker 3: So Cowboys Steelers Sunday Night Football on NBC. The ratings
Speaker 3: are going to be off the chain to historic franchises,
Speaker 3: to teams that are you know, right in the mix
Speaker 3: of people love watching these clubs. Okay, they got they
Speaker 3: got massive fans, not just here in America, across the world.
Speaker 3: These are two legendary franchises. Heckmharrison's uncle is Joe Green,
Speaker 3: the greatest Pittsburgh Steeler of all time. I'll bite you
Speaker 3: if you want to tell me anything different Terry Brastaw's nights,
Speaker 3: but go look it up here. Terry was good in
Speaker 3: Super Bowl thirteen and fourteen, but the defense set up
Speaker 3: the Steelers and definitely won super Bowls nine and ten.
Speaker 3: I mean, Terry got knocked out of Super Bowl ten.
Speaker 2: Terry will even tell you that exactly I was out.
Speaker 2: That was out.
Speaker 3: So heckma, what will the viewing be like in your home.
Speaker 2: For this game?
Speaker 5: So anybody knows me know that anytime the Cowboys are away,
Speaker 5: I have my watching traditions. I watched the game in
Speaker 5: a different room from the rest of the family because
Speaker 5: I have the remote. I'm always rewinding plays. They hate that,
Speaker 5: but this is how I'm wired. Okay, But somehow my
Speaker 5: family decided that they're gonna throw a watch party for
Speaker 5: everybody to come to. And all of my family is
Speaker 5: Super Bowl are still a fans. They are still a
Speaker 5: fan one hundred percent. It's just me and my family
Speaker 5: that are Cowboy fans. So they're inviting us to roast us.
Speaker 5: That's what That's gotta how I feel.
Speaker 3: But that's all right.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna step outside of my comfort zone. I
Speaker 5: don't feel comfortable about it, but I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go be behind enemy lines with my
Speaker 5: own family is gonna be in there still little themed
Speaker 5: everything black and gold, everything and so.
Speaker 3: So twenty sixteen, did you have the gathering of the
Speaker 3: family then or not?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
Speaker 2: I did not. I did not. We watched that separate.
Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't want to watch that, but I.
Speaker 5: Made calls though, Yeah, you don't want to see the
Speaker 5: thing is like, you know, my my Unagnes, bless her
Speaker 5: soul man, I'll never forget. When we open at and
Speaker 5: T Stadium, she called me. She's and this is my
Speaker 5: uncle Joe's late wife. Uh she she calls me and says, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm walking around at and T Stadium. It's gonna be
Speaker 5: a nice place for us to go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: And then they came and played in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: When they lost, though, thank you, Mike.
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh native Mike McCarthy. Yeah, it is only victory against
Speaker 3: the Steelers going for in the regular season, but the
Speaker 3: guy got the Super Bowl win. All right, Church, you
Speaker 3: were a Pittsburgh native.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed he born and and everybody outside of my
Speaker 4: immediate family, so I'm more growing up, everybody was a
Speaker 4: slip fan.
Speaker 2: But this just once I came here and became a cowboy.
Speaker 4: My mom's dad, sisters, and my grandparents converted the cowboys
Speaker 4: and they were like, my grandson's there and my sons,
Speaker 4: and that's what we're gonna rep But every single individual
Speaker 4: outside of that steal a fan friends everybody what they
Speaker 4: let me hear it each and every time I played
Speaker 4: the Steelers or you know the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Are doing well? What them boys doing Jackson? Oh they
Speaker 2: went crazy bumble.
Speaker 4: But when I did go up there in twenty seventeen
Speaker 4: and put the brakes on Ben Rothisberg and all, I
Speaker 4: took a pick six to the crib everything like that,
Speaker 4: I let everybody know. I had everybody come down after,
Speaker 4: you know, after the game's over, you see your family
Speaker 4: and all that. I'm talking some big noise. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm putting posters and pictures up on Instagram. But what
Speaker 4: I did to those boys and you couldn't tell me.
Speaker 4: Then we went back to Pittsburgh that saying you're and
Speaker 4: beat them in the playhouse I got.
Speaker 3: They couldn't tell me that. You say, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: want this, you don't want this anyway?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's it's everybody in my family is just
Speaker 4: They bleed black and black and gold for show, except
Speaker 4: for the immediate family.
Speaker 3: Shout out to my grandma. Thanks for letting me throw
Speaker 3: the curve ball at you thought. That's all good.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you already knew what it was
Speaker 2: gonna be. That's I did.
Speaker 3: I didn't know, I thought. But it's like you know,
Speaker 3: and then and then for the people who follow the show,
Speaker 3: you know that there's this is not a regular game
Speaker 3: for you know, this is this is right, This is
Speaker 3: a deep thing.
Speaker 2: This is a family.
Speaker 3: This is a this is a family thing.
Speaker 5: It's separated right right, Young had two cowboys fan. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: he got born in sworn in. He don't know what
Speaker 5: are you talking about? I wish he would, I wish.
Speaker 5: But but we got a problem though. We got a
Speaker 5: problem with my daughter. My daughter she believes because she's
Speaker 5: a girl, she can have two teams, and so her
Speaker 5: other her other boys, what's her other boys?
Speaker 3: Still was the other boys?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But I told I said, come Sunday night, you better
Speaker 5: you better pick a side as you staying you staying
Speaker 5: over there, you better pick out a room.
Speaker 3: You better be pulling with the Cowboys and you want
Speaker 3: to come back home. Barry you too young for this question,
Speaker 3: libe out for heckming here as a Cowboy fan, which
Speaker 3: loss hurt you more? Super Bowl thirteen to the Steelers
Speaker 3: or the eighty one NFC Championship Game lost to the forty.
Speaker 5: Nine Ers to catch, I'm gonna go with the eighty
Speaker 5: one catch. I'm gonna go with the eighty one up
Speaker 5: on a seventy four, So you know that that lows out. Hey,
Speaker 5: I was still google God got on the blanket, So
Speaker 5: eighty one. It was one that I definitely remember, just
Speaker 5: how heart broke. Everybody else was about it. So that's
Speaker 5: that's why I'm picking that. But I mean, when I
Speaker 5: hear people talk about the loss, just you know, historically
Speaker 5: as it was, it was obviously one of those times
Speaker 5: where when you know the series, but you also know
Speaker 5: how successful the Cowboys were in the early seventies and
Speaker 5: then the emergence of the dynasty there in the seventies,
Speaker 5: is like nobody really believed It's one thing to win
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl's another one to repeat, but then there's
Speaker 5: another one to take down America's team.
Speaker 2: And it just did seem likely that, you.
Speaker 5: Know, them brothers out of Pittsburgh would be able to
Speaker 5: take all that down, and they did.
Speaker 2: They did just that, and they did just that more.
Speaker 3: The most heartbreaking loss, the most damaging loss, I would
Speaker 3: say it's Super Bowl thirteen because of the opportunity to
Speaker 3: be a back to back champion, the first three time
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion in league history. That's to be the
Speaker 3: team of the seventies. All that was lost, that was heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: But the biggest game where I tears cowboy was the
Speaker 3: eighty one NFC Championship game. When the catch happened. That was,
Speaker 3: oh dude, that was for for those folks around. I
Speaker 3: remember meeting Dennis Thurman and he was a defensive back
Speaker 3: coach at USC and I was working in LA at
Speaker 3: the time and and just talked him. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: that game, bro, I had to go to school. I cried,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go. I talked so much Cash
Speaker 3: I just do for sure this was this was gonna happen,
Speaker 3: because this was they lost in nineteen eighty they lost
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game. To the Steelers twenty I mean
Speaker 3: to the Eagles twenty to seven. And then the Eagles
Speaker 3: went on and lost Super Bowl fifteen, and the next
Speaker 3: year like, okay, this is it, this is it. They're
Speaker 3: gonna get this done, go to Super Bowl six and
Speaker 3: they were gonna face the Bengals. I was about about
Speaker 3: to get these dudes, and I just knew it.
Speaker 2: And I remember telling this. He said, oh, you cried
Speaker 2: you you Yeah, I was hard on you.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hard for you to go to school. Huh yeah, yeah, thanks,
Speaker 5: my bad, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm sorry. And that that developed a friendship that
Speaker 3: continues to this day. So so Cowboys, Steelers, Cowboys, Niners.
Speaker 3: These are these games mean something. And by the way,
Speaker 3: they faced the Niners this year, going back to.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Like, it's always surprising to me,
Speaker 5: you know, in the history of the NFL, how many
Speaker 5: of those teams have met at the top continuously, over
Speaker 5: and over and over again. Like the stories right themselves
Speaker 5: this week. You don't have to put in a lot
Speaker 5: of work. You just not even google it. It's just
Speaker 5: like it's just there for you to just tap into.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the amount of the Hall of famers
Speaker 3: that you've seen in those those games. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's like, there's there's there have been legends that have
Speaker 3: played in these games. They're just just rival. Man. You
Speaker 3: so great players go at it. We do Thursday night football.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of great players here and between Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay and Atlanta.
Speaker 2: That not on gold jackets, don't you don't do you
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 3: Like, ain't a lot of gold jackets in this game.
Speaker 2: It's only one.
Speaker 4: Who Mike Mike Evans probably gonna sla. Yes, absolutely, that's
Speaker 4: one that's fres some respect on that, man. Yes, you're right,
Speaker 4: that's it. Okay, ring in Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Is it in Atlanta? In Tampa's in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Tampa thrashed the Eagles last week. So let's go ahead,
Speaker 3: and let's go ahead. By the Atlanta is favored by
Speaker 3: two and a half.
Speaker 2: Land Seeds, Land Seeds.
Speaker 5: I'm just just lan Seed, Chris, Atlanta being taking Tampa.
Speaker 2: Shaking back.
Speaker 3: That's where you're going, Hack, you're going.
Speaker 5: Shake man, I'm having a hard time. You did, y'all
Speaker 5: see the Atlanta New Orleans game last week, that last
Speaker 5: minute drive my cousins to get I'm sorry, that's too.
Speaker 5: That kicker from Atlanta has the best name in football,
Speaker 5: cool Young Way Cool. It ain't spelled that way, but
Speaker 5: I'll let you check it out. I'm not gonna get
Speaker 5: in trouble today, dere, but either way, young Cool, that's cool.
Speaker 2: That's the best name in football, bro period.
Speaker 3: My producer looks just like him, my man young Way.
Speaker 2: He's that bad bad victory. You know I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go because it's Division two and it's at home.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with whos the home team. I'm going
Speaker 5: with Atlanta. I'm gonna go. This is I'm going thirty
Speaker 5: twenty four's gotta BC.
Speaker 3: You know what I like him for, Kirk, I do
Speaker 3: but shake and bakeman balling.
Speaker 2: He has a couple of games man defense over there too. Now, damn,
Speaker 2: I need to make for it.
Speaker 4: I need give me, give me they give me Atlanta,
Speaker 4: Give me Atlanta, Give me Atlanta twenty eight twenty four Many.
Speaker 3: That's a man shake and baked be balling to Thursday Night,
Speaker 3: Thursday Night. Sorry, I'm not I'm not looking for a
Speaker 3: lot of scoring in this game. Here give me a
Speaker 3: nineteen to sixteen Tampa Bay victory to Todd's defense comes
Speaker 3: through and they put a little something on there. But
Speaker 3: I'm just not looking for another.
Speaker 2: You had a bad week last week. You got to
Speaker 2: come back, Yes he did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying I just want to put that
Speaker 5: in your back of your mind. You may want to
Speaker 5: stay with the pack.
Speaker 3: You know what, man, I was, I was gearing up
Speaker 3: from my email trip.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's good Man, Justice, Mercy, well the other
Speaker 2: one game.
Speaker 3: So it's not like it's a big spread hair Oh
Speaker 3: good good.
Speaker 2: I just shout up about no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you reminded me. I really hadn't looked. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: so you know what this is. Baking Mayfield, shake a
Speaker 3: Bay bowl. Guys, go ahead and believe in the Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousins on Prime in Folk. I'm gonna let you ki Folk, Kurt.
Speaker 2: Let's go young, way cool winner.
Speaker 3: I got sixteen, so you're gonna kick a feuder now,
Speaker 3: way coolkay, day the game. Heck, we're gonna eat a
Speaker 3: bowl of full while he's sitting here watching this, sir,
Speaker 3: get cool man. Heck, ma Harrison will do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We'll just all yettie cool customer of Yeah tomorrow so
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