Speaker 1: How you feeling though, I feel great, brother.
Speaker 2: You know, it's been a while since I've gone into
Speaker 2: basketball games. Like with that feeling, I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go just win. And it's been two games.
Speaker 2: Even nobody's getting ahead of themselves. But I can only
Speaker 2: tell you how these two games will felt.
Speaker 1: I don't let them know.
Speaker 3: It's just how.
Speaker 2: They feel great, bro, Like you know, and stuff gonna
Speaker 2: get harder. We don't have to figure stuff out, you know,
Speaker 2: But I know when it's right.
Speaker 1: I could see it. I could see it. I could
Speaker 1: feel it. In the Bucks game, you got up for
Speaker 1: the big time block against Gary Trent Junior. You know
Speaker 1: they talking about defensive player of the year conversations is
Speaker 1: back up, Steph got to Stephan got the chefind Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler got to serve it. Will and mcbilling post games,
Speaker 1: Steph's Steph said, Jimmy Butler's impact on him. Every possession
Speaker 1: doesn't feel as hard. What is the biggest takeaway from
Speaker 1: these two games since Jimmy is joining.
Speaker 2: The team, that's fact, bro, And that's on everybody though, bro, Like,
Speaker 2: that's that's on everybody offensively and defensively, Like he need
Speaker 2: draw it's crazy because in a weird way, he draws
Speaker 2: so much attention. Yeah, but obviously I've played with Steph
Speaker 2: for thirteen years, so drawing attention to me looks a
Speaker 2: certain way. You know. He played for twelve years drawing attention,
Speaker 2: and obviously with Kad for three years. But Jimmy draw
Speaker 2: attention differently than in a different once, but draw a
Speaker 2: lot of attention. And it's crazy because Jimmy, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Again, playing with Steph.
Speaker 2: One of the one of the most incredible things that
Speaker 2: Steph does is play without the ball. Jimmy has that
Speaker 2: same thing when Steph said, Yo, you have like opposite
Speaker 2: games Like it's it's on so many different levels.
Speaker 3: Like when step is.
Speaker 2: Running around like to find an opener to get the ball,
Speaker 2: Jimmy is like just working on the backside, like nudging it.
Speaker 3: Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: They break the defense down the same way but different
Speaker 2: like and man, and so yeah, I understand what Steph
Speaker 2: is saying. I agree uh with what Steph is saying,
Speaker 2: Like Steph, just look more free.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you, yeah.
Speaker 3: He looked he got he looked like he got belief.
Speaker 3: That's all. Like, that's that's all.
Speaker 1: It is, he energized.
Speaker 3: Steph.
Speaker 4: He he looked like he got believed, he said to
Speaker 4: me in Utah after the trade, he looked at me
Speaker 4: and he said, man, it's crazy because it just dawned
Speaker 4: on me that like this is it.
Speaker 2: This is the last run, right, like and I said,
Speaker 2: let's do it.
Speaker 1: Right, let's right to the hills ball us.
Speaker 2: It was an emotional moment. But yeah, like Jimmy, man,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. Brother, Wait, it's crazy because people draw, as
Speaker 2: you know, in this league, people has learned how to
Speaker 2: draw bullshit files. This dude, Jimmy, he really like he
Speaker 2: really make people file him like they are actually real files.
Speaker 3: And he got a not for it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It's it's brought this this balance of like we can
Speaker 2: really slow our offense down because you got somebody that's like,
Speaker 2: like Steph said, step dominates from the perimeter. Like we
Speaker 2: all in the world knows that you got somebody now
Speaker 2: that's dominating inside the three point line, which naturally slows
Speaker 2: the offense down. Which I think we need to slow
Speaker 2: the offense down something anyway, because we don't have the
Speaker 2: same talent. And I accused that Andre Sean Livingston, David West.
Speaker 1: It's not the same weapons.
Speaker 2: And so it's a little different and allow and Jimmy
Speaker 2: allows us to slow down.
Speaker 3: So long will you go run?
Speaker 2: Great, but it's cool to slow down and man, and
Speaker 2: then defensively, it's in incredible. Jimmy, Jimmy we call Jimmy
Speaker 2: did already earned his name Megatron. Jimmy told her he
Speaker 2: came to me before the first game. He said, he man,
Speaker 2: throw me the ball high. He said, if you throw
Speaker 2: me to the ball high, I may not finish it,
Speaker 2: but I would get it and bring it down. He said,
Speaker 2: but nobody, if you just throw the ball, Bro, I
Speaker 2: just throw the ball up.
Speaker 3: He gonna grab every one of them for sure.
Speaker 2: That's his play. That's his play. And man, he literally
Speaker 2: he made good. He's just throw it up. I will
Speaker 2: go get it. Man, it's been so fun compete with Jimmy.
Speaker 2: And I must tell you to be deep. He'd been
Speaker 2: kicking my eyes and down the nose, bro, for real,
Speaker 2: he's been kicking my eyes.
Speaker 1: You trashing, that's not true.
Speaker 3: That's not very competitive game. Very competitive games.
Speaker 1: But then he but away.
Speaker 2: He got a little luck on this side too, Like
Speaker 2: he I'm up twenty points. He pulled five fives, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he got a little luck on this side too, but
Speaker 2: he been I gotta give him his credit.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Jimmy, Okay, you know, I don't really be
Speaker 1: speaking on Jimmy. I'll try not to speak on him
Speaker 1: in his situation. But now that he with the Doves,
Speaker 1: I can tell you what my observation is. And it
Speaker 1: hit me before he got to the like before he
Speaker 1: played his first game, because you're sitting there, You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: how is this gonna work? And then they were showing highlights,
Speaker 1: and then they showed a couple of games that he
Speaker 1: played in the finals, and I realized something. Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: is the superstar that's always open.
Speaker 2: He's always always open, right, He's always open.
Speaker 1: Also, he always has a he never gets double t
Speaker 1: he's always in the scoring position. He's always one or
Speaker 1: two dribbles away. And all the little little bullshit shenanigans
Speaker 1: that come with defense, deflections, steals, turn it like like,
Speaker 1: that's Jimmy's magic. You feel what I'm saying, that's his magic.
Speaker 1: And then when you take that to what the Warriors
Speaker 1: haven't had free throw y'all never went to the free
Speaker 1: throw line. Broy y'all was winning championships, not going to
Speaker 1: the free throw line, which was like crazy. Now you
Speaker 1: add free throws. This dude gets filed all the time
Speaker 1: and they really be following. Right. He a bully, right,
Speaker 1: not just on offense for USO, on defense, right, He's
Speaker 1: an incredible health defense. And on top of that, he
Speaker 1: got a new life. And so him being a villain,
Speaker 1: right with Dremond who's already a villain, who is just
Speaker 1: waiting for another villain to come into the room to
Speaker 1: wake up, and Steph who's a super villain, and people
Speaker 1: don't understand that Steph is in his best mode when
Speaker 1: the odds are stacked against Steph. And so now you
Speaker 1: got this kind of uh, this villain mentality, this hungry mentality,
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna punk you, guys. Nobody's gonna IQ out
Speaker 1: iq you. And you can't just chase Steph around because
Speaker 1: Jimmy gets two's, dude, he gets two's and ones put backs, right,
Speaker 1: he don't need the ball for a long amount of
Speaker 1: time to go get thirty you know, thirty forty. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm watching this, I'm like, oh my god, hey, when y'all,
Speaker 1: what was it? What was it the Bulls game Steph
Speaker 1: went crazy? Right, just him catching fire like that? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you got Jimmy on the back end getting
Speaker 1: tools and man ones getting put backs. I'm excited. He
Speaker 1: brings a lot. He brings a lot that all the intangible,
Speaker 1: all the intangible, all that.
Speaker 2: Shit is what people don't value. But what makes superstar superstar.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mike donley man because I'm so happy
Speaker 2: Jimmy didn't end up in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that would have been awful.
Speaker 2: And what Jimmy has brought here when you talk about
Speaker 2: like two bullies, it's crazy because he just he's brought
Speaker 2: that sense of back of a week, we can win,
Speaker 2: and everybody feel that. And so the bar has been raised,
Speaker 2: and we know what that bar needs to be raised to,
Speaker 2: like we know what it and so the bar has
Speaker 2: been raised so much so that you talk about Steph
Speaker 2: these last four games, we all feel that excited.
Speaker 1: I got I warned.
Speaker 2: Apparently from the league the other day that the last
Speaker 2: few games I've been playing too aggressive and that they're
Speaker 2: warning me.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know what does that mean. I don't see
Speaker 1: nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: Exactly, but apparently me being there go win mode is
Speaker 2: a problem. So another thing we've never seen in a
Speaker 2: long time. We haven't seen it. Steph went out the game,
Speaker 2: it was a two point leader, four point lead. When
Speaker 2: he checks back into the game, it was seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he checks back into the game like seven to eight
Speaker 2: minutes to go in the fourth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the league, the team, that's the impact of jenity,
Speaker 1: that's the relief. Yeah, Steph gets to really look at
Speaker 1: the game. Right, Steph Curry has had the biggest responsibility
Speaker 1: of having to make endgame decisions and change his pattern.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I would say this year has been you know, trying
Speaker 1: because all lies on Steph. If Steph don't Steph, then
Speaker 1: nobody else is really open. Or if people not open,
Speaker 1: then Steph don't get the shots. And so you see
Speaker 1: him making a lot of in game adjustments. And you
Speaker 1: brought this to my attention, how people prepare game plans
Speaker 1: for stuff, and so that's you know, to switch your
Speaker 1: style up in the middle of the game to be effective. Right,
Speaker 1: A lot of great like only the greats can do it.
Speaker 1: But it's hard to how that relief to be able
Speaker 1: to sit on the bench and say, oh, okay, now
Speaker 1: I know when I get in, all I gotta do
Speaker 1: is a little bit more mid raise to the whole,
Speaker 1: like seeing Steph play not just three point basketball, but
Speaker 1: mid range, getting to the whole, rebounding, he playing, He
Speaker 1: playing like he playing in his Jordan there. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: these last few games he did in his jordanaire where
Speaker 1: it's like, I want to play winning basketball, and I
Speaker 1: can see that, I can feel, I can feel that
Speaker 1: watching you guys.
Speaker 2: Everybody on the same type of time falling in line.
Speaker 2: I told the guys after the Laker game, I say, yoh,
Speaker 2: listen that second half. We don't do more victors around here,
Speaker 2: but this is about to look different now with Jimmy
Speaker 2: coming here. I told the guys, I said, this is
Speaker 2: about about to look different him and Steph. Jimmy's locker
Speaker 2: was right. Jimmy wasn't there, but then Steph was right.
Speaker 2: I was like, so listen, this is what we're on.
Speaker 2: We're gonna follow these two guys. I promise you, if
Speaker 2: we follow these two guys, we're gonna get there proper.
Speaker 3: Yep. And from that point the bar has been raised
Speaker 3: and you can feel it.
Speaker 2: Everyone around feels it, right, and it's what we needed Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Like I said, Jimmy on that same type of time.
Speaker 3: It's good. I like it.
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Speaker 2: Jimmy first game with us was the one year anniversary
Speaker 2: of the passion of his father, which be in Chicago
Speaker 2: where he started his career.
Speaker 1: I imagine I'd have.
Speaker 2: Had that game that he has, so put an emphasis
Speaker 2: on the third saying goodbye to Wigs, you know, winning
Speaker 2: a championship with Wiggs.
Speaker 3: I think Wiggs has been here for six years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six years, man, and you know to see him
Speaker 2: go all that always sucks. That is the business DS,
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Speaker 1: I mean huge announcements, right. Steve Kurry talked about Jimmy's
Speaker 1: passing and how he was tendue you with some nice
Speaker 1: passes in the Bucks game. Are you surprised with that
Speaker 1: part of his game?
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not surprised because Jimmy is a
Speaker 2: guy who, you know, all his career has gotten triple doubles,
Speaker 2: has always been a willing passer and all always passed
Speaker 2: the hell out of the ball, and so I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3: At all.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you another thing that Jimmy does is
Speaker 2: teams going to that zone.
Speaker 3: Jimmy go to.
Speaker 1: The middle of the zone.
Speaker 2: Now he got right in the middle of the zone,
Speaker 2: sit right there. He hit me with some back door passes,
Speaker 2: working the darker. He hitting guys for threes. But most
Speaker 2: importantly he turned around and shoot the little minion fight
Speaker 2: away right and so you every option with that was
Speaker 2: my role. Yeah, that was my role with Nelly in
Speaker 2: the zone. Get get in the middle of the zone
Speaker 2: right by that right underneath the elbow.
Speaker 1: They can't do nothing about it. You one dribble away
Speaker 1: from Malayum, fade away, dunk, ghost person outlet. I like
Speaker 1: the l his his basketball IQ is, like y'all just
Speaker 1: automatically saying.
Speaker 3: His basketball IQ is Tom Tigger here.
Speaker 2: I've been learning from him these just these past few
Speaker 2: day in a couple of games playing like you just
Speaker 2: hear different things. He's saying he's so locked in, bro,
Speaker 2: like he locked out there and then he's smart. So
Speaker 2: I'm I'm happy to have the opportunity to learn from
Speaker 2: a guy like Jimmy, But I'm not surprised at all
Speaker 2: about the pass. And I know he's a great pastor,
Speaker 2: but I tell you what I did. He came, he
Speaker 2: came to the Sighine yesterday and he had passed up
Speaker 2: a shot and he was like, I should have shot that.
Speaker 2: I said, brother, let me tell you something. This team
Speaker 2: don't need your passing that hall with this tick. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's you to score, Like, we need you to go
Speaker 2: score twenty five to thirty points. You're a great passor
Speaker 2: like Steph, so you're naturally going to see the path
Speaker 2: is there, but we need you to think shoot first,
Speaker 2: score first, twenty five thirty points.
Speaker 3: Like, that's what we need you to be.
Speaker 2: He was like, all right, he went back off their file,
Speaker 2: get filed, bucket and one.
Speaker 3: That's what we need, bro, we need.
Speaker 2: To be like, yeah, you need you need Miami Jimmy
Speaker 2: and shout out the heat for that type of basketball
Speaker 2: and the way he played that basketball fits directly into
Speaker 2: what you guys.
Speaker 1: Need because he can be the playmaker for him being
Speaker 1: aggressive on the offensive. N it's all one on one matchups. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gets more one on one matchups than any dude
Speaker 1: I know, any superstar I know in the league. Right,
Speaker 1: and his is always fifteen feet away from the basket,
Speaker 1: catch two dubbles, getting the paint. You know, he's he
Speaker 1: is tough.
Speaker 2: To god one on one when he is below the
Speaker 2: free throw line. Something I want to throw out there
Speaker 2: about Jimmy also, and just what you just said about
Speaker 2: Miami Jimmy, the dopest thing about that to me is
Speaker 2: we actually do need Miami Jimmy. And I think every
Speaker 2: day he's figuring that out more and more, which is
Speaker 2: father because we here at this place, we encourage you
Speaker 2: be exactly who you are, bro, like dope and try
Speaker 2: to like, oh like, be exactly who you are. And
Speaker 2: I think he's figuring that out each day everybody like no,
Speaker 2: just go, like y, no, just go, And he's figuring out.
Speaker 3: More and more.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you the dopest thing about that
Speaker 2: whole dynamic, like he is about to be here and
Speaker 2: be the Miami he Jimmy for sure. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you the dopest thing about that to me is the
Speaker 2: lack of insecurity of Steph Curry, right, just like oh yeah,
Speaker 2: come on bro, like yeah, Stephan, the party open on, right.
Speaker 2: So many people will lack the self confidence in themselves
Speaker 2: in that position that Steph Curry in and have another
Speaker 2: alpha like number one option, like Jimmy come in and
Speaker 2: be like oh yeah, Bro, like go do your thing
Speaker 2: like it's cool.
Speaker 3: Like that is the power of Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I look at it like this. Steph is the DJ.
Speaker 3: He want to party.
Speaker 1: Right now, you got Draymon, Draymond's security making sure nobody messages.
Speaker 2: To DJ and nobody get out a lot. Now you
Speaker 2: got Jimmy and there Steph play the music. Jimmy can
Speaker 2: dance to any rhythm.
Speaker 1: Of soult absolutely. So now you got you got the
Speaker 1: party promoter, you got your security, and you got your DJ.
Speaker 3: And like, man, and.
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Speaker 1: meaning you know he he encourages success, right, he encourages happiness.
Speaker 1: He needs that. He needs everyone else to do their
Speaker 1: job and someone else to do extra work to take
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Speaker 2: Let's move around this league, ah man. Start with what
Speaker 2: everybody been talking about, and I mean everybody reacting to
Speaker 2: the Luca trade, Luca ad trade. I saw a meme
Speaker 2: by the way that it's such a shocking trade. I
Speaker 2: saw a mean that said, everybody's so shocked that Luca
Speaker 2: got traded, that we.
Speaker 1: Acting like Anthony Davis's Hassan White's.
Speaker 2: And that couldn't be more accurate. No disrespect to the son,
Speaker 2: because I think, you know, for a sign to go
Speaker 2: from second round pick too. You know, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: I think he was an all star. If not, he
Speaker 2: got really close, but I think he was one time
Speaker 2: All star. But signing one hundred million dollar contract second
Speaker 2: round pick out the league, g league whole thing workers
Speaker 2: way back and do that A lot of respect for
Speaker 2: us signed and what he did in this league. So
Speaker 2: no disrespecting him. But I thought that meme was hilarious
Speaker 2: because everyone act like they didn't get Anthony Davis back,
Speaker 2: like you and everybody like, oh they got they should
Speaker 2: have got so many picks, bro, they got they Yeah,
Speaker 2: they got Anthony Davis thirty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah you got ad he.
Speaker 1: Damn there in every county, like he top five right
Speaker 1: now in every category.
Speaker 2: And no disrespect to Luca, but Anthony Davis is a
Speaker 2: top seventy five player in the NBA history.
Speaker 3: Luca's not that yet.
Speaker 2: Now he has the potential to be that, and he
Speaker 2: would be one hundred by the time, you know, top
Speaker 2: one hundred by the time the next one come out.
Speaker 2: But Anthony Davis is a perennial offset, a top seventy
Speaker 2: and everyone acting like.
Speaker 3: Like he's nobody, you know. But nonetheless, I think it
Speaker 3: was very shocking.
Speaker 2: I personally was at the Warriors Pokers charity night when
Speaker 2: the trade went down, and I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm steps two tables, you know, me and Steph going
Speaker 3: Draymond you see this. I'm like, you know, I had
Speaker 3: heard of a I heard like the Warriors are looking
Speaker 3: at making some trays and all of that.
Speaker 2: So he goes, you see this, and I'm like, see
Speaker 2: what he liked the trade? I said, they did it
Speaker 2: I'm thinking he talking about it something that just came
Speaker 2: up with us.
Speaker 3: He like, look.
Speaker 2: Luca and a D. I said, huh. I walk around
Speaker 2: his table. He showed me the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 2: The question that everyone had, is this real? I look closer,
Speaker 2: like it's from shops.
Speaker 3: It's real. It's real. They come from shops. You could
Speaker 3: meats a bottom dollar. It's real.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I was at a loss. I'm still at a lost words.
Speaker 1: I'm still like AI generated or like for real, like
Speaker 1: it still has a hit. I think now it's starting
Speaker 1: to hit. You know, everybody's saying they farewells. But when
Speaker 1: you heard about the trade, Like, why do you think
Speaker 1: the Mavericks would do a trade like this?
Speaker 3: I think a couple of reasons. Number one, where were you?
Speaker 2: I feel like this is one of those things that
Speaker 2: you it's such a big deal that you always remember
Speaker 2: where you were when to happen. Where were you when
Speaker 2: when this trade went? Now, I felt like I was
Speaker 2: at I was chilling with my girls. She shoved me.
Speaker 2: It's called bullshit. I called bullshit. I was like, man,
Speaker 2: that's some bullshit. And then I looked and I was like,
Speaker 2: charms real, it's real. So when I look at this trade.
Speaker 2: I think it happens for a couple of reasons. Number one,
Speaker 2: as great as Luka Doncic is, he was not drafted
Speaker 2: by the general manager of the Dallas Mavericks, the current
Speaker 2: general manager, and.
Speaker 3: So as great as he is, general.
Speaker 2: Managers have in their mind how they see fit for
Speaker 2: a team that they construct and how they want it
Speaker 2: to work, how they see it working, how they see
Speaker 2: themselves getting to it and winning a championship. Now, the
Speaker 2: first thing people will say is Luca just went to
Speaker 2: the finals last year, so they close.
Speaker 3: And I'll say, I agree, Luca did go to the
Speaker 3: finals last year.
Speaker 2: But what I'll also say is sometimes making it that
Speaker 2: far to the Western Conference finals, sometimes that can be
Speaker 2: a little Foods goal. Look at the Atlanta Hawks, was
Speaker 2: it three years ago, three four years ago? Going to
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference finals barely has sniffed the playoffs since?
Speaker 3: Sometimes it can be a little Foods.
Speaker 2: Goal when you make it that far. Now, I don't
Speaker 2: think Dallas was Food's goal. I think they made great trades.
Speaker 2: May your last year acquired PJ. Washington Danie Gofford, who
Speaker 2: helped boost their lineup and put them in contention to
Speaker 2: compete for a championship, and they got there, they got close,
Speaker 2: I weren't quite able.
Speaker 3: To close it.
Speaker 2: So now when you look at that as that general manager,
Speaker 2: you're going back to the drawing board and you're saying,
Speaker 2: what do we need to do in order to get
Speaker 2: over the hunt. Quite honestly, I don't think anyone in
Speaker 2: the world would think the thing to do is trade
Speaker 2: Luca Doncas. I don't think anyone does that. But when
Speaker 2: I saw the trade, my first thought was, Dallas must
Speaker 2: know something that we don't know. That's man, I've been
Speaker 2: saying that they must know something. They must have some
Speaker 2: intel or something. You know, Luca's been dealing with a
Speaker 2: caf right Like, I'm like, they must have some intel
Speaker 2: or something that we don't quite know that, and so
Speaker 2: that's that's one of my first thoughts. Yeah, second thought
Speaker 2: is naturally, like superstar players don't get traded in their
Speaker 2: prime at twenty five and I'm not even sure if
Speaker 2: he's considered in his prime yet, right, but at twenty five,
Speaker 2: and you're right at the trade deadline, Like big trades
Speaker 2: like that that's don't normally happen at the trade deadline.
Speaker 3: And so when I look at it. I'd say Nico Harrison, who's.
Speaker 2: The general manager of the Dallas Marius for those that
Speaker 2: don't know, has like when I look at the makeup
Speaker 2: of his team, he go get to Kyrie Irvin that
Speaker 2: everybody's afraid of. Everybody think Kyrie's off his rocker. Everybody
Speaker 2: think he won't be able to be talked to. However,
Speaker 2: due to being the guy at Nike for so many years,
Speaker 2: Nico already had a relationship with Kyrie and he thought
Speaker 2: to himself, I can deal with Kyrie. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to go get Kyrie. And guess what. It's been stellar.
Speaker 2: Kyrie's been steller, he's been locked in so operation successful.
Speaker 2: So there's that you didn't give up a ton to
Speaker 2: get them right, like, so operation successful super.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Now when I look at that, and then I take
Speaker 2: a step back and look at this trade, my first
Speaker 2: thought is, or second thought, here's a guy who you
Speaker 2: see the Lakers say, ah, they're worried a little bit
Speaker 2: about AD's durability. They don't think he's a one a guy, X, Y,
Speaker 2: and Z. And then you got Nico Harrison who's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: y'all may not think he's a one a guy. But
Speaker 2: what I know for sure is he's a one A talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so with my relationship with Jay Kidds relationship because
Speaker 2: he played you know, j Kidd was on the coaching
Speaker 2: staff when they won a championship in twenty twenty, nuts
Speaker 2: Jared Dully's relationship with Ade, I think we can get
Speaker 2: Ad to play at that one A level consistently, consistently,
Speaker 2: And I think that's the bet that they're making. But
Speaker 2: more importantly, the bet that they're making is if this
Speaker 2: ship is going to go down, if I'm going to
Speaker 2: go down, if I'm Nico Harrison, what I see is
Speaker 2: him saying I'm gonna go down with someone I trust,
Speaker 2: not necessarily someone that the GM before me trust. And yes,
Speaker 2: lucas a superstar, Yes Luca's great, but Luca was never
Speaker 2: Nico's guy Nikos. Yeah, and now Nico is bringing in
Speaker 2: his guy and saying, I'm a swing for the fences
Speaker 2: and if I failed, I fail. But I felt doing
Speaker 2: it my way, and you got to respect someone who's
Speaker 2: willing to take that stand.
Speaker 1: A right I man, I agree, dude, he is doing
Speaker 1: it the way he want to do it. Right. Something
Speaker 1: about the Luca thing, even though they went to the finals.
Speaker 1: I think for him it was there needs to be
Speaker 1: a final piece, right. I think they also experienced like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, Dallas got Dallas got cracking, Dallas got hot
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Luca got hot in the playoffs. But
Speaker 1: it was really the team that played so well right
Speaker 1: that allowed Luca to beat Luca in Luca moments, and
Speaker 1: then also when Luca was dialed into, you know, the
Speaker 1: success of the team right, trying to play defense, trying
Speaker 1: to do the different things on the defensive end, that's
Speaker 1: when they want. Those are the games that they want.
Speaker 1: And you get to the finals and you look and
Speaker 1: you say, hey, man, my superstar is being put on
Speaker 1: an island by this entire roster. We are vulnerable if
Speaker 1: he does not defend right, if he does not take
Speaker 1: up on this leadership responsibility in the finals, we don't
Speaker 1: have a chance. And I think Nico saw that. And
Speaker 1: when you see some like ad, you're looking at if
Speaker 1: I had a D in that game with the squad
Speaker 1: we had, with the way we play, we got a
Speaker 1: better chance of winning that series on the defensive end
Speaker 1: with somebody like a D. And then stacking the deck.
Speaker 1: Now you're the biggest team in the West. You got
Speaker 1: the most size you athletic in the front court. You
Speaker 1: know it unlocks Kyrie to go be Kyrie again. Right,
Speaker 1: You got Clay over there that can be a great
Speaker 1: compliment to Kyrie. So I think the eighty, the eighty
Speaker 1: for Dallas is their upgrade. Now, yes, we need to
Speaker 1: go now everything, We're putting all our chips on the table.
Speaker 1: We need to go now. This twenty five year old kid, right,
Speaker 1: we don't know if this is if we built this
Speaker 1: team for him. This team is not necessar constructed and
Speaker 1: built for Luca right and for the future of Lucas.
Speaker 1: So you would have had to continue to make iterations
Speaker 1: and keep moving pieces to figure out, Okay, is this
Speaker 1: the right fit? Because you got not that you got lucky.
Speaker 1: Last year you earned and deserved everything, But there was
Speaker 1: some teams that were tired, teams that were hurt, right,
Speaker 1: and this year is way different.
Speaker 2: You see the fatigue, right, you see the coming back
Speaker 2: from the Olympics.
Speaker 1: You gotta know something. It's too much wear and tear.
Speaker 1: Whereas he gonna be at thirty versus ad at thirty five,
Speaker 1: Like who's gonna have you know, over the next three
Speaker 1: or four years. Who's going to have that window of
Speaker 1: longevity and we're gonna see where these dudes kind of
Speaker 1: measure out.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's the fact.
Speaker 2: And I think when you look at Nico's fresh conference
Speaker 2: and stuff, the one thing I respect the most is
Speaker 2: he's standing on it.
Speaker 3: He gave us.
Speaker 1: Reason no, he's standing on it.
Speaker 2: And he said, listen, what I thought was a very
Speaker 2: very bold statement, and like I said, I respect it.
Speaker 3: He said, listen, we would see if I was right
Speaker 3: or wrong, pretty much saying, I know that this move is.
Speaker 2: Either gonna get me make me a long tenure, Jim,
Speaker 2: or it's gonna get me fired. And we'll see if
Speaker 2: I'm right or wrong. And I respect that. I will say, listen,
Speaker 2: anybody that make a move like that and they stand
Speaker 2: on it, Hey dude, Jason Kidd was not. He was
Speaker 2: in the meeting like I going, hey dude, Jason Kidd.
Speaker 1: I never seen Jason.
Speaker 3: Kidd like that. Jake Jake k looked like he has
Speaker 3: a ghost. I was like, man, I gotta be here,
Speaker 3: I gotta be here.
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to say. He was a shock
Speaker 1: that That is the face of a coaching shock. What
Speaker 1: do you think, somebody, what do you think is going
Speaker 1: on on? And Jake Kid mind just based off that
Speaker 1: press conference? You know, what is he thinking? What is
Speaker 1: he contemplate?
Speaker 2: What he's thinking is he has to change his entire
Speaker 2: offense That a guy you could just get a ball
Speaker 2: to and let him go figure it out of school. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to sit there. He's sitting there
Speaker 2: trying to process what it is like that's in front
Speaker 2: of him, what it is that just happened. Like I
Speaker 2: think Jay Kidd. I think I think Jay Kidd was
Speaker 2: all over the place sitting there because again also like
Speaker 2: Nico said it, like Jake Kid didn't know right, So
Speaker 2: like even being in the dark, like you start thinking
Speaker 2: about I think Jay can't sit thinking about all of that.
Speaker 2: It was like you just see the look on his face,
Speaker 2: which crazy.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you tell me? Just tell me? Men, don't
Speaker 1: let me like this.
Speaker 2: I respect it though, because they all right, like you
Speaker 2: see shams get stories and like a lot of people
Speaker 2: that be leaking stuff these days, Like it's not like
Speaker 2: you just got four coaches anymore. Like I think our
Speaker 2: coaching staff may be twenty guys, and so all of
Speaker 2: a sudden you tell your coach and he tell his
Speaker 2: guy on the coaching staff, He go tell his young
Speaker 2: guy on the coaching staff, right, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they get back to Shams and then it don't
Speaker 2: go through. Now, if you're Dallas and you're secretly trying
Speaker 2: to trade Luke and it don't go through, now, you
Speaker 2: gotta be a real issue, you know.
Speaker 3: And so I think I understood it right.
Speaker 2: Like everybody's like, oh, man, like, how could you not
Speaker 2: say this to Jak, how could you not?
Speaker 3: But like in a situation like that.
Speaker 2: Where you can't tell nobody, I can't tell anybody. And
Speaker 2: we live in this world where people tell everything. People
Speaker 2: show you their location exactly where they at when it
Speaker 2: at right.
Speaker 3: We live in this world where everything is leaked to
Speaker 3: the media.
Speaker 2: So the one time that something don't get leaked, people
Speaker 2: trying to say that's crazy, you know, That's how actually
Speaker 2: things probably should be. Like yeah, you know, like if
Speaker 2: you're doing something to better your team and you're trying
Speaker 2: to make a straight it's probably best that you don't
Speaker 2: say that to anyone. And so I think in looking
Speaker 2: at that, I think I would hope that one of
Speaker 2: the main takeaways for people is keep your mouth shut,
Speaker 2: like that deal got Luka Donci's got traded and it
Speaker 2: was quiet, which means everybody else can shut the hell up,
Speaker 2: like and stop sharing every little secret you have to
Speaker 2: like try to get a leg up or gain a friend. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't understand it, so I respect the way they
Speaker 2: did it. Did they get the most value that they
Speaker 2: could get for Luca? People are like, oh, they could
Speaker 2: have got three picks, so they could have got four.
Speaker 2: They got Anthony Davis and a first round pick that
Speaker 2: you know, we'll see how it goes. Nonetheless, like if
Speaker 2: they wanted to flip Anthony Davis right now, they could
Speaker 2: flip Anthony Davis for four first round picks. Yeah, for sure, right,
Speaker 2: So it's not like they can't get the first round
Speaker 2: picks if they wanted the picks. But they trying to
Speaker 2: win now, and they got a guy who helps them
Speaker 2: win now. Not to mention, they just put him next
Speaker 2: to a center, which he loves. He lost playing next
Speaker 2: to a center, and they just put him next to
Speaker 2: a big ass center and Dave Gofferd and a big
Speaker 2: ass center and Derek Lively, right, so that kills those
Speaker 2: problems for Ade.
Speaker 3: Listen man.
Speaker 2: I think in a situation like that where you traded Luca,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's many guys that they could have
Speaker 2: got back that you're that you you go from wherever
Speaker 2: they were in the West to like people saying, oh,
Speaker 2: that's the best team in the West, Like they traded
Speaker 2: Luca Dungeons and people are saying it's the best team
Speaker 2: in the webbing. But then on the flip side, like
Speaker 2: you got people like, oh, that's still dumbons right, well,
Speaker 2: how are they the best team in the West. But
Speaker 2: it's the demonstrade. Ever, like I don't I don't quite
Speaker 2: understand that. Nonetheless, I feel for Luca because you've poured
Speaker 2: into that community, you have, taking that city on, made
Speaker 2: it home, and like out of nowhere blindly get traded.
Speaker 2: I do feel back him. That's the shitty side of
Speaker 2: the NBA. Like if Luca came out and was like, yo,
Speaker 2: I want to be traded, There'll be this huge uproar
Speaker 2: of like, ah, you know what I'm saying, another star
Speaker 2: player I want to leave the team, and like we
Speaker 2: need to stop this. But this man gets traded in
Speaker 2: the dark, in the middle of the night. He literally
Speaker 2: got traded after midnight after midnight, right in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night, Luca Donta's got traded and then Luca.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, like I saw. I feel for Luca, you know.
Speaker 2: I think Luca, if I'm not mistaken, I think he
Speaker 2: just had a kid, you know, so like just a
Speaker 2: bout the house. I heard he just bought a new
Speaker 2: crib like and that makes sense because his home had
Speaker 2: just got broken into. So I'm sure he was probably
Speaker 2: moving somewhere with more security or whatever. But man, I
Speaker 2: do feel bad for him, you know. And Luca is
Speaker 2: not a guy that's going to come out to say something.
Speaker 2: He know, I saw his dad saying something, but Luca
Speaker 2: not a guy that's gonna come out and say something.
Speaker 1: I do feel a little bad. I feel bad for
Speaker 1: Luca for sure. Okay, I don't feel bad for Luca.
Speaker 1: Why you going to the Lakers? Oh that's you're coming
Speaker 1: to the land. Come on, you an international superstar, a megastar.
Speaker 1: Now it's rock and rolls on a lot of them
Speaker 1: games that we was hearing about or didn't see. We
Speaker 1: get to see that. And you know how Laker fans are,
Speaker 1: they gonna they gonna take it up times team now
Speaker 1: with Luca, you got you have time. Yes, the Lakers
Speaker 1: have bought themselves a great opportunity to build now, to
Speaker 1: compete now and start to mobilize how they want to
Speaker 1: be in the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, that's around the superstar at twenty five. So I
Speaker 1: think at twenty five years old. Okay, who do you
Speaker 1: think won the trade.
Speaker 3: In the interro? In the interro in the interim?
Speaker 2: Right now today, I think that's out of Dallas because
Speaker 2: and the reason I say that that's a main team.
Speaker 2: You got Luca, if you're the Lakers now, but now
Speaker 2: you don't have a big you know, you don't have
Speaker 2: a starting caliber center. And so I think for them
Speaker 2: now they have to figure out how to make how
Speaker 2: to build the team right Like you got bron you
Speaker 2: got Luca, you got Austin Reeves, you know, but now
Speaker 2: you got to like figure out how to build a
Speaker 2: team out. So now they'll they'll need to at some
Speaker 2: point get a big right. And so I think as
Speaker 2: of right now, currently, as it stands today, you lace
Speaker 2: them up, you go out there and play tomorrow it's Dallas.
Speaker 2: But I don't think this was a move that the
Speaker 2: Lakers was making to say we're betting right now for today,
Speaker 2: I think what the Lakers thought was, this team ain't great,
Speaker 2: We're not winning the championship.
Speaker 3: We got a chance to get Luka Doncics.
Speaker 2: This gives us a chance to possibly sign a couple
Speaker 2: guys and compete right now with Luca and Lebron. It
Speaker 2: also gives us a chance to compete to where with Luca.
Speaker 2: Now that twenty twenty seven draft pick ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: as high as people thought it was. Twenty twenty nine
Speaker 2: probably won't be high as people thought it was either
Speaker 2: a Luca to this roster. So I think, you know,
Speaker 2: currently as it stands the Max, but this is a
Speaker 2: this is a right now and long term play for
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and so I think as they build the
Speaker 2: team out then that can change.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna need to build a team out now.
Speaker 3: And also, before we say something else, shout at to
Speaker 3: my young fellow Max Christie, that's right, you know how
Speaker 3: hisself into the starting lineup. I think now for Max,
Speaker 3: Max is going to a team that's more loaded in
Speaker 3: that position now, you know, so he gotta go figure
Speaker 3: his way out.
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, he is spartan dog. He gonna do things out there.
Speaker 2: That a lot of those other guys ain't gonna do
Speaker 2: because they ain't coach. My time is so I believe
Speaker 2: he'll figure it out either way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that was kind of like the the
Speaker 1: caveat in the deal. Watching Max Christie his evolution, you know,
Speaker 1: JJ playing him. I saw something. I saw why they
Speaker 1: drafted him. I saw his potential. And now moving that
Speaker 1: piece over to Dallas, complimenting of Klay Thompson, right, being
Speaker 1: over there complimenting Klay Thompson because Max gonna play some defense,
Speaker 1: Maxican score, he can cut, he cut to the basket,
Speaker 1: he athletic. Right, So Dallas is now getting not only
Speaker 1: a d but they getting a young dog. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: they got another young dog that that can fit into
Speaker 1: that that ecosystem in what they building.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing like when you look at the NBA
Speaker 2: and a lot of things that I think fans don't understand.
Speaker 3: It's like contracts. Your contract matters.
Speaker 2: And so for instance, Max just signed a four year,
Speaker 2: thirty two million dollar deal. He's going to get an
Speaker 2: opportunity and he'll probably get the opportunity over Quinton Grimes
Speaker 2: because he.
Speaker 3: Has a meaningful contract.
Speaker 2: And that's where I don't think of that, I said,
Speaker 2: And I don't think people understand how much that matters.
Speaker 2: When you're like, oh, that guy should have signed for less, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you signed for less, you're also setting yourself up to
Speaker 2: get screwed because you signed for less. Their value is
Speaker 2: no longer as high as it was, you know, So
Speaker 2: if you're not in a certain position and you signed
Speaker 2: for less, you can screw yourself. So, Harri's why I think,
Speaker 2: like Max soign In, that deal actually gives him more
Speaker 2: security than just financial security.
Speaker 3: It gives him more security to get.
Speaker 2: An opportunity or two or three because he got the contract,
Speaker 2: and so I think, and I think with an opportunity,
Speaker 2: he figures it out.
Speaker 3: Spartan dog, that's what we do. I agree.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to dial in the Utah Jazz. Right,
Speaker 1: they didn't even know that Luca was being traded. Can
Speaker 1: you explain how is that possible for them to be
Speaker 1: involved in the trade and then not know somebody being traded?
Speaker 1: The Utah Jazz, Right, they didn't even know that Luca
Speaker 1: was being traded. Can you explain how is that possible
Speaker 1: for them to be involved in the trade and then
Speaker 1: not know somebody being traded. At that point, do you
Speaker 1: just wake up and be like, man, the Lakers in
Speaker 1: the Dallas, who can we call to get some picks?
Speaker 1: Call Utah, Mom, call Utah, you want some draft picks.
Speaker 1: Gotta take it.
Speaker 2: Listen, here's what I will say about that bed, Rob Polinka.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It is a little on the lines of morally.
Speaker 2: Fucked up for what he did, but I understand why
Speaker 2: he did it.
Speaker 3: It's a little along the line.
Speaker 2: You know how someone do something and you're like, well,
Speaker 2: they didn't break a law, so they can't go to jail.
Speaker 2: And I think Rob Pelinka is right there, Teeter in
Speaker 2: that line. You didn't quite do anything wrong. But Marley,
Speaker 2: I don't think Danny ain't gonna ever work with him again,
Speaker 2: because sure, like, who knows if Danny would have did
Speaker 2: the deal or not, but you didn't give me the choice,
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to just put a strain
Speaker 2: on their working relationship because how many times you tell
Speaker 2: me this, BD, how many times have you seen the wool.
Speaker 3: Get pulled over Danny Ainge's head? Danny Ainge do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, very very seldom, very seldom. In his tenure,
Speaker 2: Rob Polka and Nico Harrison pulled the wool over his head.
Speaker 1: So and then and then and then it's the Lakers too,
Speaker 1: So you know, Danny Ainge and the Lakers don't get along,
Speaker 1: So he ain't trying to help no Lakers.
Speaker 3: He's a Boston Celtic. It's a Boston Celtic. He's not
Speaker 3: trying to help those down his side.
Speaker 1: That a man.
Speaker 2: So for those people out there, I'm not a general manager,
Speaker 2: but how I would imagine that happen is if you
Speaker 2: call and you're just like, yo, we're trying to get
Speaker 2: off with Chapino. Young guy will give up two second
Speaker 2: round picks, and Danny Ainge is just going to take
Speaker 2: him because he's taking all those drive picks right now.
Speaker 3: Then they don't tell wait time out?
Speaker 1: Are you saying?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 1: I think I know what you're saying. Did Rob Palenka
Speaker 1: called Danny Ainge and make the trade and didn't tell
Speaker 1: him nothing about this?
Speaker 3: One thousand percent? One percent?
Speaker 1: Oh that is?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: But hey, dude.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, though, b d here's why. Here's
Speaker 2: how he can get away with it. Though I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you how he got it. He can get away
Speaker 2: with it because in that deal The only thing that
Speaker 2: went to Utah was Usino in two second round picks
Speaker 2: from the Lakers and picks and the Lakers like it
Speaker 2: wasn't like it was Dallas pick or you know Dallas
Speaker 2: has to give up. Now the picks came from the Lakers,
Speaker 2: so you didn't have to let him know that there
Speaker 2: was a third team involved because everything that Utah received
Speaker 2: came from the Lakers.
Speaker 3: But man, that's a little man.
Speaker 1: He got fleas heydd Ah, that is that is border line. Ah,
Speaker 1: that is oh way I got said, bd. That's what
Speaker 1: you gotta. That's what you gotta come knocker daddy age.
Speaker 1: Man have to see rob be like, hey, bro, I
Speaker 1: gotta come knock on your door on me. You owe
Speaker 1: me one. That's that's one of them. You owe me
Speaker 1: one like you owe me one for sure?
Speaker 3: This is you man. This ain't like they made a trade.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine they ain't make a trade work for
Speaker 2: like you know they had traded for last year. It
Speaker 2: ain't like they made the trade work for Rui. This
Speaker 2: is Luca dungeis man like dude. They went over there
Speaker 2: fleece and you say, wow, he.
Speaker 3: For show for sure. You don't see that happened to
Speaker 3: Danny often.
Speaker 2: You don't see that happen to so impress the often right, like, wow,
Speaker 2: imagine breaking up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible. Good job, Rob Polinka. He got
Speaker 1: that off, and he really got that off. Hey, Danny Age,
Speaker 1: I got these two picks and and hood Shavino. Hey
Speaker 1: what you's thinking? Oh man, what man? Let me just
Speaker 1: get let me let me let me give you those.
Speaker 1: He's like, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: Let me let me go, let me call, let me
Speaker 3: call Nico. Niko is done. Niko has done it. It's done.
Speaker 1: I got Utah invall they gonna tell you, Oh man.
Speaker 2: Thirty minutes right, Lincoln had come across danny Ahe taking
Speaker 2: Luca Donta has traded to the lost.
Speaker 1: You know, Danny Age is hot. Look at he even
Speaker 1: said it. He basically said he was enough. He had
Speaker 1: no idea that he was helping the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Crazy Luca. He had no idea.
Speaker 2: Then some time, by the time he found out, it
Speaker 2: was too late. That is crazy, crazy, bro.
Speaker 1: You can never you can never do another deal with
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz. If you the Lakers unless you go
Speaker 1: give them something, you gotta go. You gotta go get
Speaker 1: that man. Something back later in a couple of years.
Speaker 3: And be like, no hard villains, and you have to
Speaker 3: absolutely it's crazy.
Speaker 1: The Warriors begin a six game road trip on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I want to do something a little different. I want
Speaker 1: to talk storylines for each team instead of you know,
Speaker 1: usually how we talk matchups. Yep, that's cool, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: all right, let's start. Let's start. Let's start with Utah first,
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz. This team is looking to keep drafting
Speaker 1: picks right. They want the number one pick, Cooper Flag.
Speaker 1: Everybody is saying, how important is it for a franchise
Speaker 1: to get the number one pick coming in this draft?
Speaker 1: And what does that do for Utah with what they're doing.
Speaker 2: It's very important for Utah to get the number one
Speaker 2: pick in this draft. Not to be racist, but Utah
Speaker 2: is very white. It's like a very white place. And
Speaker 2: so Cooper Flag like, I'm sure they're looking at us
Speaker 2: like their next great hope, you know, and that he
Speaker 2: fit in there. You know, it's from Maine, you know,
Speaker 2: and so I think that's kind of a match made
Speaker 2: in heaven. And I'm sure they're doing all that they
Speaker 2: can to try to get it, to make that match happen.
Speaker 2: I think for us, you know, they have good NB
Speaker 2: some good NBA players on that team, and for us,
Speaker 2: we just got to make sure that we stay locked in.
Speaker 2: But you know, going because you can easily go lose
Speaker 2: that game. We don't have any space to do that.
Speaker 2: But this is Danny Ainge. Like Danny Ainge rebuilt the
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics that we know as we know today off
Speaker 2: of this same exact strategy, and.
Speaker 3: He's proven that he can do it. I think he'll
Speaker 3: do it again.
Speaker 2: But it's very important for them to get the number
Speaker 2: one draft because they can't pay anybody to come to Utah.
Speaker 2: So you got to get the number one pick because
Speaker 2: they can't pay a number one pick talent to come
Speaker 2: to Utah. I can't pay him enough. They not getting
Speaker 2: one of them superstars Atlant zero percent chance. They can't
Speaker 2: get Jimmy Butler though.
Speaker 1: He could wind up in Utah as the last resort
Speaker 1: you don't want to go whatever.
Speaker 2: You know what I saying, Bernie and Pat Off is like
Speaker 2: Jimmy and I sign in extension with Utah.
Speaker 1: He don't really have that emo hair Emo bangs in Utah.
Speaker 1: Here's a bowl take. If this is not working, Trey Luca,
Speaker 1: Luca play you make the playoffs? Who knows next year?
Speaker 1: If this shit don't work with Lebron, what happens? Does
Speaker 1: Lebron leave or do the Lakers say, hey, this is
Speaker 1: the final piece to move to figure out this roster.
Speaker 2: For look, I think if anything's going to happen with
Speaker 2: Brin as far as leaving the Laker, I think it
Speaker 2: happens this summer.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the next year.
Speaker 2: Thing because I also don't think I don't I don't
Speaker 2: think you're gonna he don't have time. But I also
Speaker 2: don't think you're going to see a Lebron James trading
Speaker 2: mid season. We were shocked by this one, but I
Speaker 2: just can't foresee that. Like we made a go at
Speaker 2: it last year, and the one reason it didn't happen
Speaker 2: is because you just weren't.
Speaker 3: Going to get a Lebron James moving man.
Speaker 1: See that, you know?
Speaker 2: And so I think if anything happens, it happens this
Speaker 2: coming summer. I don't think it's wait till next deadline
Speaker 2: and see it ain't working. I don't foresee that. I
Speaker 2: don't foresee what what? But what is the okay? So
Speaker 2: what is the domino effect right of this trade to
Speaker 2: the n B A nobody's safe U and every and
Speaker 2: if you're a general manager, you calling you calling you
Speaker 2: calling on Guy Win, be you calling on we don't
Speaker 2: even think you have a chance second. Now, if you're
Speaker 2: a GM, I think the way that this plays out
Speaker 2: moving forward is you're going to have You're going to
Speaker 2: now start seeing more young promising talent get traded because
Speaker 2: you're going to just get more calls and as opposed
Speaker 2: to before, like nobody's calling it like yo y'all trying
Speaker 2: to trade Steph or yo y'all trying to trade with
Speaker 2: nobody's calling us center. You're going to get those calls
Speaker 2: now all the time. If people just throwing ship out
Speaker 2: the wall and seeing if it's thick man, that's kind
Speaker 2: of the way. That's that's the I think one of
Speaker 2: the biggest impacts on the NBA. And then let's face it,
Speaker 2: you got Luka, Doncic and Laker purple and gold. That's crazy,
Speaker 2: that's massive, Like mister Lakers is the Lakers brand. And
Speaker 2: now with Luka done, and you're talking about globally like
Speaker 2: it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a there's a real community here, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's a real diverse community for him. That Europe
Speaker 1: it's a European vibe here for him, it's a more
Speaker 1: welcoming vibe for him.
Speaker 3: So man, damn yeah, I think it's changing.
Speaker 1: It's a good Yeah, it's a huge domino effect. I
Speaker 1: also wanted to pinpoint Dallas was smart because they got
Speaker 1: off that Supermax, because that Supermax is gonna kill a
Speaker 1: lot of teams. Like you were saying, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot of young dudes get traded. Because now it's
Speaker 1: like they coming up on that Supermax and it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: in five years, is this dude gonna be worth one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars a year?
Speaker 3: You know what? This goes back to bed on the
Speaker 3: Draymond Green Show before.
Speaker 1: I was blessed.
Speaker 2: To have you come on and partner on this show
Speaker 2: and bring a whole different life and take to this
Speaker 2: show when I just used to be sitting here by
Speaker 2: myself talking.
Speaker 1: To a Draymond domas Draymond Doma.
Speaker 3: Absolutely I spoke about and I went on a tweet.
Speaker 2: Storm about how fucking dumb, stupid the CBA that we
Speaker 2: were going to sign as players when it when it
Speaker 2: first leaked that we were going to agree to a
Speaker 2: deal and they leaked the terms, I went on this
Speaker 2: whole tweet store and I spoke on the pod about
Speaker 2: how dumb that CBA was. And you know, you see
Speaker 2: Luca Doncis getting traded. Don't for not for one second
Speaker 2: thing that that's also not a byproduct of that dumb
Speaker 2: ass CBA we signed.
Speaker 3: You put in a hard cap. The second apron is
Speaker 3: a hard cap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And every time somebody get up that second April,
Speaker 2: you can bet your bottom dollar they're going to be
Speaker 2: trying to trade out of that second April. And so
Speaker 2: you just saw Luca Dontis get traded at twenty five.
Speaker 2: That is a by product of the second April of Dallas. Like, man,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to pay him eighty five million dollars
Speaker 2: a year, all right.
Speaker 3: He good?
Speaker 1: He great, But ain't no money for nobody else.
Speaker 3: We like, were you about to go into the second April?
Speaker 2: No, we ain't trying to go into the second April, right,
Speaker 2: And so Luca duntons getting traded. And what I have
Speaker 2: not seen anyone talk about is one million percent a
Speaker 2: by product of the cap situation in the second April,
Speaker 2: it is one thousand percent, and I don't think people
Speaker 2: notice or realize that, but you're going to see more
Speaker 2: and more trades like that because that second apron, Man,
Speaker 2: that's just a it's just a nice way of saying
Speaker 2: a hard cap.
Speaker 1: It's just a crazy threshold. It puts It puts the
Speaker 1: team in a back document. Obviously, it's incredible for the player.
Speaker 1: But if you're trying to build and you're trying to win,
Speaker 1: and your top two dudes is taking all the bread,
Speaker 1: you're not, and then and and you're paying them off potential, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know you're paying them off of Hey, over these
Speaker 1: next five yeah, we're paying you off of potential. I
Speaker 1: just think that you know that hard cap and like
Speaker 1: you're saying that that that second apron, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are gonna start falling in that second apron, and
Speaker 1: the it's gonna give the team, Like, it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be so much player movement because people are gonna try
Speaker 1: to avoid that, and you're gonna lose loyalty from your
Speaker 1: young superstars.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Next is the Los Angeles Lakers. Obviously, the new look
Speaker 1: Lakers being here in La uh Luca won't be playing.
Speaker 1: Most likely he won't return until February A. Talk about
Speaker 1: the Lakers as a threat. Talk about the Lakers right
Speaker 1: now without Luca, you know, they won I think four
Speaker 1: they went four and one without a d. How danger
Speaker 1: signed the Lakers? You know, from now and then the
Speaker 1: next five to ten years.
Speaker 2: I mean, now you have Lebron James and Luca douneons,
Speaker 2: you're dangerous. Can you figure it out? Can you figure
Speaker 2: everything out around on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 2: losing a rin protector, like a d all of those
Speaker 2: things you have to figure those things out.
Speaker 3: But they got Lebron James and Luca Doneons.
Speaker 2: They always have a chance to win the game for
Speaker 2: the next five to ten years. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: they're in a great spot as far as getting the
Speaker 2: Luca in opposite complete opposite of what the problem that
Speaker 2: Utah has is the Lakers can get people to sign there.
Speaker 2: You know, you can get people to come signed in
Speaker 2: LA and so they have the opposite issue of the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz when it comes to that. But then saying
Speaker 2: that the next file is ten years looks great, but
Speaker 2: it all depends on Luca's health. You know, Luca's health
Speaker 2: will be the driver of what the Lakers look like
Speaker 2: in the next five to ten years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need Luca to have one of them Venice
Speaker 1: Beach bodies. He gotta go out there, you know, and
Speaker 1: get on Venice Beach. We need we need Luca with
Speaker 1: his muscle beach body.
Speaker 2: Bron posted a picture of the new Big Three in
Speaker 2: La Luca Bron Reeves.
Speaker 3: What is your first impression on the new Lakers when Luca.
Speaker 1: It is cracking out here because you got two Lebron's
Speaker 1: Luca Luca rebound. He passed the ball right obviously you
Speaker 1: know the game, the game, it was a blowout, but
Speaker 1: just to know that Luca got all the little Luca
Speaker 1: magic thing and it's cracky like he was missing some
Speaker 1: of them shots, some of them air ones, you know,
Speaker 1: missing some passes. Oh man, Once this dude lock in,
Speaker 1: you think about same thing with Steph and Jimmy. Lebron
Speaker 1: goes out the game, Now you gotta worry about Luca
Speaker 1: and Luca paced is much slower than Lebron's and so
Speaker 1: when you match their paced together, and then you include
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, who've been playing stellar at the point guard position, right,
Speaker 1: he just he been doing whatever he wants score, get
Speaker 1: to the hole, shoot the three. And now he's starting
Speaker 1: to really find reason and make the right plays. The
Speaker 1: right assistant J. J. Reddick got him rolling. They got
Speaker 1: they they got some potency. You know, they got a
Speaker 1: three headed monster in La and they all are creative.
Speaker 1: And so you powered up in the back court. You
Speaker 1: powered up, and like your backcourt in the front court,
Speaker 1: it's really about the other guys that's on the floor
Speaker 1: front the Lakers who're gonna do the hustling, the scrapping,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Getting.
Speaker 1: Getting deflections, getting offensive rebound put backs. But you ain't
Speaker 1: got to worry about too much the way I'm looking
Speaker 1: at how this Laker thing gonna shake out, Because with Luca,
Speaker 1: you ain't got to ask for too much for too
Speaker 1: many people. Give me five, give me seven. I need
Speaker 1: you know, I need, I need more, I need eleven
Speaker 1: from you, like you ain't asking for much and you're
Speaker 1: gonna be wide out there.
Speaker 3: That's what more with you know, what more.
Speaker 1: Could you say about Luca? And they gave him a
Speaker 1: name out here in LA they call him Luca, Luca
Speaker 1: the Cribs Son already pocked.
Speaker 2: All right, Luca over the weekend involved in the Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers, who they were trying to fill eights glaring
Speaker 2: hole that he left behind with Mark Williams the physical
Speaker 2: and they said not because of his back that's sideline
Speaker 2: of the most last season, but because of multiple other
Speaker 2: issues of concern sources it Hornets are protesting the trade
Speaker 2: being rescinded. They are the Hornets are protesting the trade
Speaker 2: being rescinded.
Speaker 3: Right, what is your reaction to this whole debacle?
Speaker 1: This is like Watergate. It's like old school Watergate. This
Speaker 1: is like when they was messing up the voting polls.
Speaker 1: Something is not right. This is tricky. Okay, I just
Speaker 1: dealt you a player knowing, damn well, he don't pass
Speaker 1: the physical, but he just played two games ago. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so that's tricky, meaning, hey, Charlotte, you may be prone
Speaker 1: to some type of investigation on your damn oh right,
Speaker 1: depending on what Mark Williams said. Now the Lakers, how
Speaker 1: do you not pass a physical in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season when you're already playing What are the Lakers qualifications?
Speaker 1: And so the Lakers may have had cold feet and
Speaker 1: knowing that ah, he didn't pass like it could be anything.
Speaker 1: It could be anything, bro, It could be anything. It
Speaker 1: could be a spraying finger, it could be a ozgen slaughter.
Speaker 1: Remember that, Oh you got osen slaughterer. No, you don't
Speaker 1: pass the physical, So who knows what type of injury
Speaker 1: or back injury or whatever it is. But you know,
Speaker 1: we all play. I played with herniated disc my whole career,
Speaker 1: and you know it is a problem. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tricky to see how this all on fold. But
Speaker 1: it's definitely an unsolved mystery. And the cole part about
Speaker 1: it is the players got to go back to the
Speaker 1: teams that it's traded and now you're gonna have them
Speaker 1: to perform for you for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do, especially if you don't connect, Like,
Speaker 1: if you don't connect, what do you how do you feel?
Speaker 3: If you don't connect?
Speaker 2: You have to be your best job, to be the
Speaker 2: best professional you can Ye, don't connect, lawyer, you have
Speaker 2: excuse me if you're a dog connects Asian.
Speaker 3: You have to have your client's best interests at heart.
Speaker 2: Come to son like I don't know how he walks
Speaker 2: back into that locker room as a shooter and be like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, now you're gonna put me in this game.
Speaker 2: I'm about to go shoot that day, like I mean,
Speaker 2: hopefully he can, because this can, like going through something
Speaker 2: like this can really like derail this kid's career. It
Speaker 2: could do that because it could kill his confidence. Like
Speaker 2: and when you was confidence in this league, you don't
Speaker 2: get it back, and so this could really this could
Speaker 2: really derail Dalton's Connects career.
Speaker 3: It's tough.
Speaker 2: I got Mark Williams is one thing, but Dawn connect
Speaker 2: he was hooping like they just like go ahead, bro,
Speaker 2: like yeah, and apparently he was gonna be an a
Speaker 2: d trade so they kind of was just awful anyway
Speaker 2: from what it sound like though his And then now
Speaker 2: you gotta go back there.
Speaker 1: That's tough. He gotta go back. He gotta go back
Speaker 1: and keep it.
Speaker 3: That's tough.
Speaker 1: You gotta go back.
Speaker 3: And he gonna be open.
Speaker 1: He gonna be open.
Speaker 3: He definitely don't.
Speaker 1: He gonna be He gonna be wide open.
Speaker 3: That's for Luca out there.
Speaker 1: So you know, make a name for yourself, take advantage
Speaker 1: of the opportunity. If you're gonna hoop hoop, but like
Speaker 1: d say, he's not. Make sure now that you know
Speaker 1: that you are the you are a disposable piece to
Speaker 1: the Lakers, and you should be. You gotta look out
Speaker 1: for your own best sentence.
Speaker 3: Let's go around the league a little bit. We're gonna
Speaker 3: move around the association a bit.
Speaker 2: Russ is playing great in Denver Man He's fifteen and
Speaker 2: five as a starter. Two of those losses can versus
Speaker 2: elite teams without Joker. What do you think about Russ's
Speaker 2: your brewing resurgence this year? And really just what the
Speaker 2: opportunity he's been given, because the reality is he's always
Speaker 2: played this great when he's had that.
Speaker 3: I've been in that position with that opportunity. But what
Speaker 3: do you think about just the way he's bouncing back
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 1: One resiliency When you think of Russ, you're just thinking
Speaker 1: resiliency all the way. He will figure it out. Once
Speaker 1: he figures it out. He once he's able to play
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook basketball within the confines of the team. He's
Speaker 1: always positive. It's always a positive outcome. And so having
Speaker 1: somebody like Joker is.
Speaker 2: The perfect match for him, right because he loves.
Speaker 1: Dishing and rewarding the big guy, and he's never had
Speaker 1: a center that place point guard that allows him to
Speaker 1: do what he's great at backdoor cuts, get on the
Speaker 1: offensive glass, right, all those little things from a point
Speaker 1: guard perspective, puts so much pressure on the defense, right
Speaker 1: because like imagine you playing Joker out on the five shot,
Speaker 1: he shooting three, He can just shoot a three just
Speaker 1: to shoot one. It is Russ down there, right. He
Speaker 1: is a bona fiing rebounder, right, and he's a force
Speaker 1: in the inside. So when you look at back door layups,
Speaker 1: pass and cutting, coming off a pick and roll, getting
Speaker 1: in the middle of the la, even if Russ is missing,
Speaker 1: you got Joker there tipping it. And so you know,
Speaker 1: uh and plant above, plant about of glass. So I
Speaker 1: think that for Russ perfect fit. Right for Denver, they
Speaker 1: found their elevated version of Bruce Brown, right, And that's
Speaker 1: what and and that's what they missed. I said that.
Speaker 2: I said, that's what they missed last year. They don't
Speaker 2: have that dog that can just go and you know,
Speaker 2: make some make some ship happen, you know, outside the Joker,
Speaker 2: outside of Jamal Murray, they don't have They don't have
Speaker 2: that idle person.
Speaker 1: They don't have that idle person and playmaker. Now you
Speaker 1: got that with Russ, and he connected with Joker man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna be serious in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I know that, Yeah, they are, for sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody going to want to see them
Speaker 2: during the playoffs with the way.
Speaker 1: With the way, the difference in the coach, right, Mike,
Speaker 1: excellent guy, great coach. But in time, usually in times
Speaker 1: like these, you see teams respawn. Yes, right, two new coaches.
Speaker 1: Just talk about being in the league and seeing that,
Speaker 1: you know, also not having that right, having that stability
Speaker 1: what that means as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now for sure, it's crazy because I always tell
Speaker 2: people like I am I've been very fortunate in my
Speaker 2: career to be here for thirteen years because I am like,
Speaker 2: I am not.
Speaker 3: One that's keen to change. Like I do not like change.
Speaker 2: I don't I keep my stuff the same, right, And
Speaker 2: so to not have to go through that throughout the
Speaker 2: course of my career where guys you got some guys
Speaker 2: that got to.
Speaker 3: Coach every other year or two, I feel like I
Speaker 3: would struggle with that.
Speaker 2: A lot, you know, even if it's team the team
Speaker 2: every other year, Like I struggle with that because I
Speaker 2: just don't adjust to change.
Speaker 3: Well, So to have like this is the thing that
Speaker 3: you do the most.
Speaker 2: This is the thing in your life that you end
Speaker 2: up having to put spend so much energy and focus
Speaker 2: on that to have to make that adjustment every year
Speaker 2: drive me crazy. And so I'm very fortunate that I
Speaker 2: haven't had to deal with that. But when you look
Speaker 2: around the league, the teams that have the consistency are
Speaker 2: usually teams that do best. And the bad organizations that
Speaker 2: switching coaches every year every other year that the usually
Speaker 2: don't work, you know, and the proof and of putting
Speaker 2: this right there in your face, and so you know,
Speaker 2: if you even look at teams around the NFL that'signed
Speaker 2: success stillers coach saying for many years, Andy Reid and
Speaker 2: Kansas City been there for many years. Bill Belichick is
Speaker 2: with the Patriots for many years. You know, when you
Speaker 2: look at the coaches that ive done well, they've been
Speaker 2: there for many of years. And so as players, we
Speaker 2: need that consistency, Like you don't want to be adjusted
Speaker 2: to a different playbook, a different set of coaches, a
Speaker 2: different philosophy every other year or two.
Speaker 3: And so I think you know, when for the guys
Speaker 3: in Sack is kind of like.
Speaker 2: The happy medium, whereas you got a different coach, but
Speaker 2: Doug has been there, and if I'm not mistaken, Doug
Speaker 2: was there even before Mike Brown got there on the
Speaker 2: coaching staff. That was there prior to Mike Brown getting there,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, And so you know, that is
Speaker 2: still a level of consistency for them. It's a consistent
Speaker 2: voice that those guys have heard for years and it's
Speaker 2: not like it's just some huge change, foreign change. That
Speaker 2: a voice that they haven't been hearing for many years.
Speaker 2: And so it makes a huge difference man having that consistency.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I speak about that from experience.
Speaker 2: I haven't had to deal with much change. I've changed
Speaker 2: coaches one time in my thirteen years. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And then talk about like those minor adjustments because in
Speaker 1: that change it was a couple adjustments. And now you know,
Speaker 1: people give credit to Mike Mark Jackson about the foundation
Speaker 1: lay when the coaching change over happened, that's when the
Speaker 1: Warriors took off. And you know, talk about minor tweaks, right,
Speaker 1: How that how you can fix that Rubik's Q and
Speaker 1: get all the colors working and the patterns right, you
Speaker 1: have something special and I think you know, I want
Speaker 1: you to talk about that as far as coaching, because
Speaker 1: you know, being with current winning championships, you know your loyalty,
Speaker 1: right and just having that brain trust with that do
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: So even if you look at like some of the
Speaker 2: minor changes that have happened, and we've been speaking about
Speaker 2: the king so in there, in there in their space,
Speaker 2: like I said, starting Malik Monk, getting Kean Ellis more minutes,
Speaker 2: putting more trust in here, giving him more confidence, more
Speaker 2: consistent minutes that he's getting right. Like, that's one of
Speaker 2: the big changes for them moving month into the start lineup.
Speaker 3: That's one of the big changes for them.
Speaker 2: For us when we switched coaches, we were you know,
Speaker 2: we had went to the playoffs two years in a row,
Speaker 2: and some of the tweaks that Steve brought in, like
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson did do a great job of laying the foundation.
Speaker 2: But just when Steve came in, the offensive changes that
Speaker 2: he made was everything for us. Like our defense was
Speaker 2: really really great and they had got that to an
Speaker 2: incredible place, but the offensive changes that Steve brought in,
Speaker 2: the ball movement and player movement, and you know, our
Speaker 2: offense was a lot more stagnant before Steve came in.
Speaker 3: So I think it's just.
Speaker 2: Him making those changes that changed everything because it unlocked
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff for us.
Speaker 3: It unlocked the floor for us.
Speaker 2: And so you know, you have philosophical changes like that,
Speaker 2: you know, where Steve come in with some some principles
Speaker 2: of the triangle, but not quite running the triangle, you know,
Speaker 2: And I think you know, so that was kind of
Speaker 2: our changes. And then obviously when Steve came in, I
Speaker 2: also became a starter.
Speaker 3: You know, that was a huge change.
Speaker 1: It unlocked your potential.
Speaker 2: It unlocked my potential, and it also unlocked just different
Speaker 2: things about our offense. Like I played direct in d Lee,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it just unlocks some
Speaker 2: different things in our offense.
Speaker 3: That really allowed us to take off.
Speaker 1: Recently, Scottie Pippen says he wins six rings without Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: This is water. You know. That's when you tell your friends, man,
Speaker 1: take a shot.
Speaker 3: What's wrong with Scotty?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Somebody got to check on Scotty. Man.
Speaker 2: I'm a I grew up watching them teams.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm a I'm a big Scotti fan. Scotty.
Speaker 2: I don't know what Scotty going through, man, But I
Speaker 2: send my love because I'm Dad, asked man, because you
Speaker 2: start making comments like Scotty been making lately, and people
Speaker 2: start to remember you for those comments and not necessarily
Speaker 2: for being Scotty clipping, and I don't like that, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like people try to downplay who
Speaker 2: you are and what you've done because in the comments
Speaker 2: you made latey, and I just don't want to see
Speaker 2: people doing that to Scotti because Scotty is for damn
Speaker 2: sure Scotty. And that's why I say, man, like, I
Speaker 2: just want like to make sure Scotty good man because
Speaker 2: saying stuff like that like he said, him and Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan they never sat down for dinner, Like to me,
Speaker 2: it sounds like it's coming from a place of pain,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that, Like MJ. He feeling
Speaker 2: like MJ kind of never maybe showing him the love
Speaker 2: that he ultimately think MJ should show, and he's like
Speaker 2: outwardly looking for that and saying things to like downplay
Speaker 2: it as opposed to just saying like like I feel
Speaker 2: like he kind of said it like man, man, Michael
Speaker 2: Jordany never had sat down, sit down and had dinner
Speaker 2: to one on one like I feel like he crying
Speaker 2: out and saying what he's really crying out for and about,
Speaker 2: and like make that happen, man, Like, like somebody get
Speaker 2: MJ and Scottie together, because if he feels like he
Speaker 2: need that.
Speaker 1: Like it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: He no, Dad as though, check it, check it about
Speaker 2: he bro Chexa's gonna checks this out. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 2: Scottie Pippen. But what I am saying is, if somewhere
Speaker 2: down the line, twenty years from now, I want to
Speaker 2: have dinner with Steph Curry, I would hope that I
Speaker 2: can have dinner with Steph Kurry.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: With all that you've been through with somebody like you
Speaker 2: go through these journeys and winning championships them, ship's not
Speaker 2: easy and yeah, to go on those journeys and not
Speaker 2: even be able to sit down and have dinner, like
Speaker 2: I feel like that Scotty's outcry and.
Speaker 1: So but Michael Jordan don't need dinner. Michael Jordan do
Speaker 1: eat dinner.
Speaker 2: Man the black Cat, I hain't never heard about Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan's having dinner with nobody.
Speaker 3: And that's fine.
Speaker 2: But he also like, it's Mike and Scotti man like,
Speaker 2: and it don't matter if anybody else.
Speaker 3: I got gott need that.
Speaker 2: I know, No, he needs that, man, Scott for that.
Speaker 1: He is crying out for that. But you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to Michael Jordan's right, of course, Michael and Jordan's
Speaker 1: don't kid he fly.
Speaker 2: He ain't tripping at all. Of course you feel me, Hey,
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan is not tripping. Okay, huh, who what.
Speaker 3: Dinner?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Are you kidding? I wonder why
Speaker 2: he didn't go to dinner with Scottie. It's all making
Speaker 2: sense now when you look at the whole picture.
Speaker 3: It's all making sense now. Though.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm here to who Michael Jordan was, Like, I
Speaker 1: am here to who.
Speaker 2: I do my job. I'm here to do my job.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to be friends with you. I'm not
Speaker 2: here to be.
Speaker 3: On this court.
Speaker 1: Oh man, we family. I love y'all. Until Michael Jordan's defense,
Speaker 1: every time he speaks in an interview, he always say Scotti.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan will never say, Michael Jordan, what I say,
Speaker 1: Scottie pippun. Michael Jordan's always says Scottie bro Scott always
Speaker 1: say Okay, I get it. He should Michael Jordan, if
Speaker 1: you hear me, if you can hear me, now, please
Speaker 1: bro go sit down with your dumb You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all, chop it up. We need to see
Speaker 1: a Michael Jordan. Maybe we can do a Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen interview, right, because.
Speaker 3: Right here on Draymond Green the Bad Day, right.
Speaker 2: Come on, Michael, come on, Michael Jordan. I look, I
Speaker 2: got my.
Speaker 1: Ball head just like my I know, hey, I know
Speaker 1: how Mike feel because when I cut my hair off. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to have been. These are ballhead thogs.
Speaker 3: These are Mike Dude, black.
Speaker 1: Cat Mike Scotty Scottie Pippen is. He's a legend man.
Speaker 1: But we we gotta do a better I say this,
Speaker 1: We gotta do a better job of talking about how
Speaker 1: great Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 3: Was, for sure, but he ain't gonna get it doing
Speaker 3: this dumb ship.
Speaker 1: No, he got it. Chill. Let us do the talking, Scott,
Speaker 1: let us do the compare Scotty Pipping and different people and.
Speaker 3: Lebron jam Man.
Speaker 2: That Lebron James Chase his ring I got like, Bro,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna say you better, Lebron, Come on, Scotty
Speaker 2: like you.
Speaker 3: That's not the way to get this is what I say.
Speaker 3: You're better.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. This is what I do say. Lebron is
Speaker 2: more of a combination of Magic Johnson and Scottie Pipping
Speaker 2: than he is compared to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: And that's fine.
Speaker 2: But he's a combination of Scotty and Magic, which means
Speaker 2: he Scotty stopped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Scotty's stop.
Speaker 1: That's how.
Speaker 2: Scotty got six rings man for sure. Nobody taking out
Speaker 2: away pot he can pop that. No, you can, but
Speaker 2: like some ship at a certain point, like for instance.
Speaker 2: All right, so so pretty much what you're saying is this,
Speaker 2: You're pretty much saying I canna walk around.
Speaker 3: I'm just like you.
Speaker 1: Don't do don't do like I got exactly, don't do
Speaker 1: it exactly. Don't do that better than now take that, mom, dude,
Speaker 1: that's not even I'm better than kaw Noo. What you're saying,
Speaker 1: that's you and Kawhi don't even play the same position.
Speaker 2: I agree, but like it's not that's like like no
Speaker 2: close stop is.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is yes, youripp I'm saying Scottie Pippen is
Speaker 1: a three. Lebron is a mode of Scottie Pipping and
Speaker 1: Me's magic.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Lebron is a mode Lebron right, He's the one on
Speaker 1: one for sure. But when you look at Lebron's game, Magic, Johnson,
Speaker 1: Scottie Pipping right, and all of them that make Lebron
Speaker 1: Lebron right. And so Scottie Pippen is looking at it like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm a three here, three, you know. And Scottie Pippen
Speaker 1: puts himself as he should in the upper echelon of three.
Speaker 2: Bron ain't never really even been in three. He really
Speaker 2: like a point guard. He came in as a point guard.
Speaker 2: But even if you want to say Bron's the three great,
Speaker 2: say a three, say a four, I really don't give
Speaker 2: a damn Brin and Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 3: Is not in the same category.
Speaker 2: They are not the category.
Speaker 1: And I said, I said, Scottie Pippen, he as a three,
Speaker 1: has won six championship. He's standing on his six championships
Speaker 1: and he's standing on I killed in the finals. Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year All Stars he's standing on all that.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when he compare himself to Broun,
Speaker 1: that's just having confidence in himself.
Speaker 2: Bron has had Scottish career, Scotty's career minus the rings twice.
Speaker 1: For sure, Like.
Speaker 2: Minus the sixth rings. He's had Scotty's career twice.
Speaker 1: Scotty messed up.
Speaker 3: If not three times, He's he's.
Speaker 1: Had Scott Scott, Scotty messed up with this. Come on, Scotty,
Speaker 1: you feel I'm on Scott decided by the way. I
Speaker 1: got nothing but love for Scotty.
Speaker 2: But come on, Scotty, you're not winning those six rings
Speaker 2: without and that's if.
Speaker 3: That's the case, then j left. You would have kept
Speaker 3: winning the rings.
Speaker 1: Scotty, like you would have went back in the game.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, come on, Scotty.
Speaker 1: You would have went back in again, and to justify.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you just tried to testify.
Speaker 1: I didn't try to justify nothing.
Speaker 3: I was speaking from his point of view.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fishing you off today.
Speaker 3: Very accurate magic, Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 1: Right. That is, when you look at Lebron's game, he
Speaker 1: embodies both of those players. A roll very very not
Speaker 1: like m J. No, not even close. Yeah, they're not
Speaker 1: saying not even close to totally Toby m J. Lebron
Speaker 1: Magic and Scottie Pippen as I don't.
Speaker 3: Stop that magic again. I'm a Scottie Pippen fan.
Speaker 2: Scottie Pippen does not belong in the category with Magic
Speaker 2: Johnson and Lebron James. I'm sorry, Scotty is is the legend.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Scotty is just going that got.
Speaker 3: That category, Bro, Scottie pipp going category with Lebron jameson.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting them in the category. Come on though,
Speaker 1: just like greatness Magic Johnson, the greatness of Scottie Pippen,
Speaker 1: mixed that all together, you get Lebron James.
Speaker 3: I don't know that's that's that's too simple.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying like like that was, but I'm
Speaker 2: saying like that ain't gonna get it done.
Speaker 1: Everything think about it, Bro, and then and then it's
Speaker 1: it's somebody, and then it's and then it's Lebron is right,
Speaker 1: it's his it's his approach and his swag. And if
Speaker 1: you think about magic and you think about how Pippin
Speaker 1: play right like that is the cornerstone of the greatness
Speaker 1: of Lebron James. What I'm saying, I'm moving equally as
Speaker 1: great right, like Scottie Pippen's greatness defense all the things
Speaker 1: he did. Then you got magic with the ooh and
Speaker 1: just the magic. Then you add what Lebron got with
Speaker 1: the hops, the athleticism and strength. That's like Bro. He
Speaker 1: the perfect combination of them two in Karl alone.
Speaker 2: That's I'll tell you what. So I had to just
Speaker 2: move my mind past category and what I had to
Speaker 2: allow my mind to do was combine the two players
Speaker 2: and combine in those two players.
Speaker 3: It's like, that's insane.
Speaker 1: That's insane. That's what Lebron James. That's what I'm so.
Speaker 2: I can follow you a little bit. Then you add
Speaker 2: Karl Malone and they're like I said, a lot, all right,
Speaker 2: I rest.
Speaker 1: He built like Karl Malone. Lebron James is built like
Speaker 1: Carl Malone. He the same He the same size as Carl.
Speaker 2: Alone, which is crazy. That's crappy, no sense, man, that's
Speaker 2: just crazy. I had to guard him. I have to
Speaker 2: guarden Lebron. Yeah, he like Garden, car Malone and Magic
Speaker 2: Johnson all in the same one to be for Broun
Speaker 2: to be the same size as Karl Malone, for those
Speaker 2: of y'all that's never seen Carl Malone, the person, that man.
Speaker 3: Man, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: God and bron him and Broun actually is the same size,
Speaker 2: which makes nose.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro, I'm telling you. The volume