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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into episode number eleven of the

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Speaker 1: Best podcast available. We are officially one week away from

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Speaker 1: what it seemed like an eternity away, and now just

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Speaker 1: one week until the two thousand twenty one NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: here in Cleveland, Ohio, Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble, This

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Speaker 1: is the best podcast available. Coming up on the program today,

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Speaker 1: we will be talking with Charlie Look. He is the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network Vice President of Production. He is running the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft coverage for NFL Network starting next week. A

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Speaker 1: Miami University graduate of Ohio, that is so a fellow

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Speaker 1: Maction member. He will join us coming up in just

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Speaker 1: a few minutes right now, though he is joining us

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Speaker 1: right on the screen below. His name is Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: and he is the draft Guru, and he is the

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Speaker 1: author of this this to honor it in sixty seven pages. Bosses,

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Speaker 1: they might have a problem with me printing it, Dame,

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Speaker 1: but no big deal. The draft analyst from the Athletic

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Speaker 1: and a big time contributor to the Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 1: our draft coverage once again this year, Dane Bruegler joins

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Speaker 1: us and Dan appreciate the time congratulations of that, especially

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Speaker 1: with the fact that I believe you have a wife

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Speaker 1: So uh no, I appreciate it. It's it's awesome to

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Speaker 1: be on with you guys. This is uh, it's been

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Speaker 1: a challenging process. You know, it's just been everything's been

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Speaker 1: But I'm very, very proud that we've made it up

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Speaker 1: to this point where we're a week out at tubost

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Speaker 1: get to talk about what could be Yeah, exactly, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot that could be happening, and in the

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Speaker 1: next week a lot still to be determined. We think

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on how this draft is shaping up one

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Speaker 1: week to go here before the draft, well, I think

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Speaker 1: just a case of the forty Niners doing their due

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Speaker 1: in sacks and he has a nineteam. Uh, there's just

432
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Speaker 1: a lot you can do with a guy like Joe

433
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Speaker 1: try On and once you get to that later portion

434
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Speaker 1: of the the first round, you know, you get different.

435
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Speaker 1: You talk to people around the league and it's not

436
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Speaker 1: it's it's nothing close to a set rankings of how

437
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Speaker 1: these pass rushers reviewed. Some you know, Jalen Phillips out

438
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Speaker 1: of Miami not on some boards because of the injury history. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, Gregor was so out of Miami, really liked

440
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Speaker 1: by some teams, and then not even in consideration in

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Speaker 1: the first round for some other teams. Jason Away at

442
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Speaker 1: a Penn State who uh is the freakiest of the freaks. Uh.

443
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Speaker 1: When you talk about the natural athleticism for a guy

444
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Speaker 1: that's six five to sixty but zero sax, that's that's

445
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Speaker 1: a number that stands out more than any other for

446
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Speaker 1: some teams, and you know, they question, Okay, he's not

447
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Speaker 1: the most instinctive player. Can we coach that? Or is

448
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Speaker 1: that more of he just is what he is. There's

449
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Speaker 1: debate about Jason noway. So no consensus on the order

450
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Speaker 1: to these pass rushers. Uh, you know how early they

451
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Speaker 1: should go? Uh? You know what? How many should go

452
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Speaker 1: in the first round. It's a really interesting group of

453
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Speaker 1: flawed but skilled pass rushers this year at the corner position.

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Speaker 1: We all we know about Greg Newsoon, but is there

455
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Speaker 1: a guy that you could see that would be worth

456
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Speaker 1: it to make the move up for a few spots

457
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Speaker 1: And how much would you even have to move up

458
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Speaker 1: to get some of those guys? Yeah, Patrick Surtan and j. C.

459
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Speaker 1: Horne we expect to be the first two corners drafted him.

460
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Speaker 1: There's a good chance, uh that certain could be the

461
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Speaker 1: first defensive player drafted period. Uh. You know, looking at

462
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Speaker 1: ten and Cowboys, you know, maybe eleven and the Giants

463
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Speaker 1: um thirteen to the Chargers twelve, the Eagles UM Horn,

464
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Speaker 1: j C. Horne, if you were to fall a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to but if you were

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Speaker 1: to fall say past uh you know, the Cardinals at sixteen,

467
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Speaker 1: because I think you look at uh, you know ten

468
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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, twelve, uh, thirteen and then uh sixteen

469
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Speaker 1: all logical landing spots for J. C. Horne. If you

470
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Speaker 1: were to get past those those spots and so, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, then maybe you start to think about it, uh,

472
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Speaker 1: with what he could bring your team six one two

473
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Speaker 1: five pounds, thirty three in arms, really really aggressive, almost

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Speaker 1: to a fault. And then that's kind of a double

475
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Speaker 1: edged sword with him, is just how aggressive is But

476
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Speaker 1: at the same time, you'd rather your corner be super

477
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Speaker 1: aggressive and you kind of reel them back a little

478
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Speaker 1: bit as opposed to the opposite where he's maybe a

479
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Speaker 1: little too passive and you're trying to get him to

480
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Speaker 1: be uh you know, a little more fiery with how

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Speaker 1: he plays. So with J. C. Horne, the other thing

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Speaker 1: I really like about him is, you know, talk to

483
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Speaker 1: South Carolina coaches and they tell you the moment he

484
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Speaker 1: stopped on the campus as a true freshman, he was

485
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Speaker 1: part of the culture change, not even part of it.

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Speaker 1: He was leading the culture change as just a natural leader. UM,

487
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Speaker 1: a guy that is not as brash as his dad.

488
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna pull a cell phone out of a

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Speaker 1: sock anytime soon. Uh. Talking about Joe Horne, the Pro

490
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Speaker 1: Bowl wide receiver, but he is a guy that is

491
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Speaker 1: not afraid to speak up and not afraid to lead

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Speaker 1: by examples. So uh j C. Horn is an easy

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Speaker 1: player to like. Uh. It just there will be some penalties,

494
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Speaker 1: there will be some discipline issues just talking about on

495
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Speaker 1: the field. But you know, as he works through that,

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Speaker 1: works through those hiccups, he's gonna be a really quality

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Speaker 1: corner in this league. And I'll shift the focus. You

498
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Speaker 1: mentioned wide receivers, and this has become maybe lightly more

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Speaker 1: possible in the last couple of weeks. But is there

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Speaker 1: an offensive player you could see the Browns using a

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Speaker 1: first round pick on? And is there someone you would

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Speaker 1: jump at if they got to that point? Yeah, I

503
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Speaker 1: think it just it probably defends Let's let's just say

504
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Speaker 1: none of those top three receivers, Jamaar Chase, the two

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Speaker 1: Alabama receivers with Jalen Waddle and Davante Smith. Let's say

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Speaker 1: none of those three were to fall, which you know

507
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Speaker 1: seems far fetched that they would. So none of those

508
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Speaker 1: three receivers fall is there another receiver that is at

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Speaker 1: least in the conversation for the Browns if maybe they're

510
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Speaker 1: defensive board gets wiped out. Um, you know, I'm sure

511
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Speaker 1: that there's a six. They've got a list of five

512
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Speaker 1: to seven names of guys they really want to see

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Speaker 1: there at twenty six. Let's say, you know, Greg Newsome

514
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Speaker 1: and whichever pass rushers they value highly off the board

515
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Speaker 1: at that point. But is there a wide receiver that

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Speaker 1: they view as a first round player that fourth receiver

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Speaker 1: off the board, who could be worth it to him? Uh?

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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of the question. And that's where you know,

519
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Speaker 1: similar the pass rushers, you talk to different teams, you

520
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Speaker 1: get different opinion ends on who's four or five, six, seven.

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Speaker 1: The rankings of the wide receivers this year, ka Darius

522
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Speaker 1: Tony had a Florida six ft hundred nineties three pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's just he's like a magician out there with some

524
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Speaker 1: of these plays that he's making guys miss, uh, creating

525
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Speaker 1: after the catch. Just a fun player. Uh, more gadget

526
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Speaker 1: than polish as a route runner, but still a guy

527
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Speaker 1: that you can, you know, work into your offense and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna create big plays for you. Another guy that's

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Speaker 1: kind of similar but a little more, a little more

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Speaker 1: polished is Elijah More out of all miss five nine

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Speaker 1: and a half hundred eighty pounds. Speed is the big

532
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Speaker 1: thing with him, legit fourth three athlete. UH. In Lane

533
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Speaker 1: Kiffin's offense, they force fed him the ball and he

534
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Speaker 1: responded in a big way. Ten point eight catches per

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Speaker 1: game led the FBS last year. UH. There's a lot

536
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Speaker 1: to like about him as a quick hitting underneath player.

537
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Speaker 1: But he also showed that he can win deep track

538
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Speaker 1: the ball, slugos, vertical routes. He can do those things

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Speaker 1: as well. So Elijah More would be awfully enticing UH.

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Speaker 1: And then Rosaud Bateman a different type of receiver. He's

541
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Speaker 1: more of your savvy UH, you know, be able to

542
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Speaker 1: use footwork at the stem, UH, leverage coverage with you know,

543
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Speaker 1: the way he uses a body, the route manipulation. So

544
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Speaker 1: but Bateman, it's just a different style of receiver who

545
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Speaker 1: could come in and compete for playing time pretty early

546
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Speaker 1: in his career because he is an NFL ready player.

547
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Speaker 1: But I think the arguments of that is you look

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Speaker 1: at the wide receiver group and it stretches second, third,

549
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Speaker 1: fourth round. It's a deep group. So if they were

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Speaker 1: to go wide receiver, I think it would be a

551
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Speaker 1: surprise if it happened in round one, just because of

552
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Speaker 1: some of the defensive players that should be there, but

553
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Speaker 1: also because it's a position that they can get really

554
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Speaker 1: good value. Uh, you know in a in the second, third,

555
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Speaker 1: and fourth, even in the day three. I think there's

556
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Speaker 1: good value at that point. Talking with Dane Bruegler, NFL

557
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Speaker 1: draft analysts for The Athletic, make sure you subscribe today

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Speaker 1: to the Athletic. Go to the Athletic dot com get

559
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Speaker 1: his Draft guide two sixty seven and pages the Beast

560
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Speaker 1: that is out now one week from now the two

561
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Speaker 1: thousand one NFL Draft. I want to double back real

562
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Speaker 1: quick on the defensive side, Uh, linebackers, Daven Collins, a

563
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: guy that all of a sudden is rocketing up the

564
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Speaker 1: boards in Jimmin Davis from Kentucky. Uh, those two players.

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Speaker 1: I know. Zavian Collins is mocked at the Browns by

566
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Speaker 1: a number of people for a few months, and that's

567
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: kind of cooled off a little bit. But still some

568
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Speaker 1: talented linebackers here. Yeah, And I mean I'll be honest,

569
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Speaker 1: I kind of like what they have going at linebacker

570
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: right now on the current depth chart, I don't know

571
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Speaker 1: that they need to add another body uh to that

572
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Speaker 1: linebacker room at least in the first first round or

573
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Speaker 1: first few rounds. But there will be talent there. Uh it.

574
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Speaker 1: We'll have to see which linebackers followed a twenty six. Uh.

575
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a good chance we see Michael Parsons,

576
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Speaker 1: Avin Collins, Jeremiah Lucy Cormoa off the board at that point.

577
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Speaker 1: Jamon Davis is an interesting name at a Kentucky six

578
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Speaker 1: three and a half two or thirty five pounds one

579
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Speaker 1: year starter, but he was really good in that one

580
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Speaker 1: year for Kentucky just past season average over ten tackles

581
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Speaker 1: per game, had three interceptions, one he returned back for

582
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Speaker 1: a pick six against Tennessee, which really showed off his athleticism. Uh.

583
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Speaker 1: And then he reminded people of that at his pro

584
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Speaker 1: day running a four four seven and a forty year

585
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Speaker 1: DASHT eleven a broad just really explosive, especially for a

586
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Speaker 1: guy at that size thirty three inch arms. Can he

587
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Speaker 1: be that Darius Leonard, that Zack Cunningham. I he's got

588
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Speaker 1: the potential to be that guy. UM So it's the

589
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Speaker 1: guy you think about it's a guy that should be

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Speaker 1: in the conversation. But like I said, I don't I

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00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: don't know that when you look at, uh, the linebackers

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Speaker 1: they have on the roster, if they're now, if they're

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Speaker 1: looking at that and say, you know we're we're in Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know our base defense is. You know, we're a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of nickel, a lot of dime.

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Speaker 1: You know how many linebackers we're gonna have on the field. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: we only need, you know, maybe two that we feel

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Speaker 1: great about. So I don't know that they need to

599
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Speaker 1: go lineback or early, even though there will be some

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Speaker 1: talent there for them to can better. All Right, two

601
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Speaker 1: real quick questions for you, rapid fire Mr Chase or

602
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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pits the two different positions. Uh, cow

603
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Speaker 1: Pits is a tight end. I wholeheartedly believe that. But

604
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: he's just different. He's a unicorn that he's a special player. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get The Falcons a tough decision to make

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Speaker 1: a number four if they take the quarterbacks for the

607
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Speaker 1: long term or they take the best non quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the draft, which is Kyle Pitts in my opinion, at

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Speaker 1: number four. Is there a Dame Brugler bold prediction for

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Speaker 1: this draft one week out? Um, well, okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see court. I mean, this draft is gonna be about

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, right So, uh, we're gonna there's a chance

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see quarterbacks one to three, four, which has

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Speaker 1: never had before. There's a quarter a chance we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see five quarterbacks going to the top ten, which has

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Speaker 1: never happened before. Um, but I'm also gonna say that

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Speaker 1: that's gonna keep going. We're not done there. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: see seven quarters, at least seven quarterbacks drafted in the

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Speaker 1: first two rounds, which has never happened before. So with

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Speaker 1: those five quarterbacks likely in the top two, and and

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Speaker 1: then you factor in uh Davis Mills, a Kellen Mond,

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Speaker 1: maybe a cold trash, that would be eight right there.

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Speaker 1: And we've never had more than six quarterbacks go in

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Speaker 1: the first two rounds. So quarterback, it's gonna break all

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Speaker 1: all types of records this year. Just that's fine, we

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback. Just keep pushing that talent back to us.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna letty keep hopping on the quarterback train? In? Bruegler,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time, the best, and we look forward to

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Speaker 1: talking with you a lot more here in the coming days.

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Speaker 1: Look forward to your draft coverage on the Athletic. I

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna be doing pick by pick analysis as

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Speaker 1: things come down, and doing a few more things on

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Speaker 1: the Athletic all draft weekend, in addition to hopping on

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Speaker 1: a few of our shows here and there and doing

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Speaker 1: some stuff with us as well. Appreciate the time. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you get the copy of his Draft guide, The Beast.

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Speaker 1: Go on to the Athletic dot com and subscribe today. Dan,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time for more on n ILL Draft. Earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week, Gribble and I had a chance to

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Speaker 1: sit down with NFL Network Vice President of Production Charlie

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Speaker 1: yok a Ohio and via college at least, but getting

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Speaker 1: ready for his seventh NFL Draft and being in the

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Speaker 1: lead chair of the NFL networks draft coverage. Have a

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Speaker 1: watch and have a listen, and here on the best

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Speaker 1: podcast available Jason Gibbs Andrew Gribble, Bowling green alum, Ohio

646
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: University alum, and now we're joined by a Miami Redhawk.

647
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: We're willing to look the other way. It's pretty big

648
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Speaker 1: time at the NFL Network, Charlie Yok, vice president of

649
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: production for NFL Network, and the man that will be

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Speaker 1: bringing you the two thousand one NFL Draft from the

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Speaker 1: c l E in just days from now. Joins us

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Speaker 1: and Charlie. Appreciate a few minutes of your time and

653
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Speaker 1: glad to have a I know you weren't born and

654
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: raised in Ohio, but you went to school here, so

655
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Speaker 1: that does make you an honorary Ohio and we're happy

656
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Speaker 1: to have you on board here today. Appreciate, appreciate it, guys.

657
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Speaker 1: Looking forward to the draft in Cleveland, uh here shortly

658
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: in fourteen days. Yeah, definitely looking forward to it. What

659
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Speaker 1: have you discovered from a year ago and all the

660
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: trials and tribulations to get a network draft show up

661
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Speaker 1: and running that can carry over to this year and beyond.

662
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Speaker 1: What What is the last year been like for you

663
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Speaker 1: guys in terms of doing draft? Yeah, No, that's a

664
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Speaker 1: good that's a good starting point. Jason, Look, we're we're hungry, right.

665
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: We worked in conjunction with eastnn ABC last year to

666
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Speaker 1: put the draft on together. This will be NFL networks

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Speaker 1: first draft since the Nationville Draft in twenty nineteen. We're

668
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Speaker 1: lucky and honored to be doing it in Cleveland, a

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Speaker 1: passionate sports town, as you guys know, where Browns fans

670
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: are gonna be rabbit and they're gonna show up, uh

671
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: two weeks from today. We learned a lot of things

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Speaker 1: in the last year, I think, both on and off

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Speaker 1: the field, right. And one of the most important things

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Speaker 1: I think we learned from the draft that will carry

675
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Speaker 1: over this year that you and your fans will see, um,

676
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: is that human element. Um. We're gonna have over sixty

677
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: cameras right in players homes to see those moments with

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Speaker 1: their families when they get selected. All thirty two teams

679
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: will be represented with cameras at their locations. There's gonna

680
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: be a good number of prospects in Cleveland. We're at

681
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: ten right now, hoping to get that numbered about fifteen

682
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Speaker 1: or seventeen. Um. But I think that's family is something

683
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Speaker 1: that we always use, right, Football is family as a

684
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: phrase we use for the NFL, and I think of

685
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Speaker 1: this last year, we all realize how important family is

686
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Speaker 1: in general. And I think once we joined, you know,

687
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Speaker 1: once these players joined their football families and share the

688
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Speaker 1: moment with their actual families, those are the things I

689
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: think people you know, UH can resonate with and take

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Speaker 1: home with. And those are the moments, and I think

691
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Speaker 1: those emotions that we see on screen that that kind

692
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Speaker 1: of go a long way. In addition to what we

693
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Speaker 1: you know, talk about them on the football field, it's

694
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Speaker 1: the off the field stuff that kind of matters as well.

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Speaker 1: In the year that you've been preparing for for this moment,

696
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Speaker 1: like did you kind of have two parallel plans going

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Speaker 1: into this if you had to go virtual again? Or when?

698
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Speaker 1: How did you map out your plans for this? Yeah?

699
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: We actually it's a good question too anyway, Like we

700
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: started mapping this out in May, um, not knowing what

701
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Speaker 1: April was gonna look like. Um, And they were just

702
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Speaker 1: thoughts ideas. I think we, like I said, we learned

703
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: a lot from that draft being virtual. UM, so a

704
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: lot of those things that you see, like what do

705
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: people talk about. They talked about Belichick, dog, they talked

706
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: about Clansbury's house, Um, these are things we want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that we keep uh this year. Um. But

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00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: the ideas themselves, we just wanted to get better. So

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Speaker 1: when you know your fans, tune in at eight o'clock

710
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: Eastern on NFL Network on April nine. You know, they

711
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: see the tapes that are going to be great. They

712
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: see the analysis they know they expect from Daniel Jeremiah,

713
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: from Charles Davis, from coach David Schaw Stanford. They see

714
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: our host Rich Eyes and with this renewed passion again

715
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Speaker 1: doing his seventeenth draft when he couldn't do last year

716
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: or so, these are the things that we've been in

717
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: the lab kind of working on. Um. You know it,

718
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: I'd be remiss if I didn't say Joe Thomas is

719
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge part of what we're doing for

720
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Speaker 1: pregame on Thursday and Friday night. Joe's fired up, ready

721
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Speaker 1: to come back home. UM one as one of cleveland

722
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Speaker 1: favorite sons. Chris Rose, Cleveland native also in Miami, Ohio

723
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: graduate like he's gonna be there doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff for the Browns, uh, in the community, for us

725
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Speaker 1: on NFL network. UM So we've we're just ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, it's it's it's such an honor and

727
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: a blessing to be in a sports town like Cleveland. Um,

728
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing like it. That passion it's gonna be. You know,

729
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: I think they're all week. We just gotta hope for

730
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Speaker 1: really good weather boys. Um, but I don't even think

731
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Speaker 1: that's gonna keep anybody away in the enthusiasm we have.

732
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: But we're ready to go. We could do this thing

733
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Speaker 1: tomorrow if we needed to. But we're ready and excited

734
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Speaker 1: to put on a great show for everybody. So at

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Speaker 1: what point as you get ready for this draft and

736
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Speaker 1: you've you've been putting these together since two thousand and

737
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Speaker 1: fourteen and even earlier than that. I know that you've

738
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Speaker 1: had a role in it, but in your current role

739
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Speaker 1: really since two thousand and fourteen, when do things really

740
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Speaker 1: start getting serious in terms of putting together everything that

741
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: you're going to need for I don't know, countless hundreds

742
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: of players bios, and yet keeping it informative and entertaining.

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Speaker 1: So when the calendar flips the one one is when

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Speaker 1: we start getting serious. Because as you know, you guys know,

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Speaker 1: we put on you know, unfortunately this year we don't

746
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: get to do these Shrine game, but that's an important

747
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: game for us to these college All Star games. Uh,

748
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl combine didn't happen this year, but the Pro

749
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: the Pro Days were massive emphasis for us. So as

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00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: soon as we flipped the one one is when we

751
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: start getting serious, we're gonna try to have every you know,

752
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: player analysis tape available. We've got over six hundred kids

753
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: that we've got, uh you know, we've identified it's probably

754
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: close to two thousand individual video tapes. Now they're all digital,

755
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: but we still call the videotapes um. So we like,

756
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: like I said, the staff we have has been so

757
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: ready to do this that I think it's it's more like,

758
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: let's let's show people what we can do again because

759
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: we haven't done it in two years. So the exo

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00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: tapes as we call them, that you know that do

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Speaker 1: the full analysis of the players on the field. I've

762
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: seen some of these things, guys, and like the graphics

763
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: are pop, the sound effects pop, the the angles pop.

764
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Speaker 1: We really can't wait to showcase all this stuff to

765
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Speaker 1: the to the viewing audience because I think it's gonna

766
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Speaker 1: do a lot of things. And one of the two

767
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: main things, it's going to tell you who the player

768
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Speaker 1: is on the field, and it will translate to what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna bring to your team, whether it's the Browns,

770
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: whether it's the Ravens, whether it's a Steelers, whether you

771
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: know it's the Broncos, whomever it is. We want to educate,

772
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: but we also want to entertain to because it's a

773
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: night that's full of hope, right when everyone hopes that

774
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: this next player is the next you know, X, Y

775
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: or Z. So that's what we want to do, and

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00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: I think we're ready to do it. What's the biggest

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00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: thing that changed for you personally when they started taking

778
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: the draft on the road to these different locations and

779
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: maybe what's the what's the biggest challenge that goes into

780
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: these kind of broadcasts. I think the first thing is

781
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: identifying where do you want to be, So we take

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00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: the lead from the league. Um, you know, as far

783
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: as where the main set location is this year, it's

784
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: right in between the stadium and the Science Center, which

785
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little windy, but they

786
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: and then understand that. But you know, we identify that's

787
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: going to be the main stead area. We call that

788
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: the theater set. And then we we need to know

789
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: where we want to have a secondary set, an alternate set.

790
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: We can do a bunch of other stuff. So this

791
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: year we're gonna be um, we're calling at the garage set.

792
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: It's the outdoor set. It's above the parking lot that

793
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: kind of faces towards the lake. Um So that's where

794
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: like Joe Thomas and Chris Rose will be on Thursday

795
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: and Friday. UM and then identifying other places where we

796
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: can showcase stuff. So whether it's Rock and Roll Hall

797
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: of Fame for Red Carpet arrivals on Thursday, whether we're

798
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Speaker 1: using the stadium like we are for Ian Rappaport or

799
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Speaker 1: Insider on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. We just want to

800
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: make sure we could showcase the city itself because that's

801
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: one of the most important things. Once we've gotten the

802
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: model of hey, we're gonna go to different towns and

803
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: different cities, make the draft really a traveling circus. How

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Speaker 1: do we make sure that that that home city is

805
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: a character and what we're doing. So it started in Chicago.

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00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: I think we've learned a lot since then. Um So

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00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: now as we look at one Cleveland, it's it's not

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00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: just one of those things where you just assume it's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Cleveland is a huge part of what we

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00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: want to do. That's why we shot so much stuff already.

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Speaker 1: But one thing we missed so I couldn't believe we missed.

812
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: We gotta shoot you. You gotta tell me if it's

813
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: gonna be good. It is the Christmas story House. We

814
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: didn't shoot that yet, so we got to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think everything else we've kind of got banked and

816
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: we're ready to go as long as weather holes. Like

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00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: I said, um, the Cleveland's gonna be a super important

818
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: character and it's identifying those things, um, those places we

819
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: need to be and want to be when we had

820
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: when we get to a new city, I gotta ask

821
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Speaker 1: when you look back at last year, imagine you were

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Speaker 1: pretty close to done in the planning process for Vegas.

823
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: When when the planning had to go on, is that

824
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: something you can pick up again when you guys go

825
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: to when the Lee goes to Vegas and a couple

826
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Speaker 1: of years or you start fresh when you do know

827
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Speaker 1: that we're the good thing is a lot of our

828
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: plans should remain the same. So um, but as you

829
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: guys know that that's just the framework everything internally, that's

830
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna separate what we do and what anyone

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Speaker 1: else does. And that's what we take great pride. And

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Speaker 1: then that our analysts, our host our producers are researchers,

833
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: everybody from top to bottom. Um, this is a passion

834
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: project for them. You know, you only get so many

835
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: moments right in general to showcase what you can do

836
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: and opportunity when this comes like this, we want to

837
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Speaker 1: take advantage of it. So with Vegas, once Cleveland's done

838
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Speaker 1: by by no means are we looking past Cleveland right now,

839
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Speaker 1: but at least it will be a little easier knowing

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00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: where we're gonna be in Vegas. Open invitation for you

841
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: guys to come out to Vegas two, but um, yeah,

842
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: those plans will be a little easier as we move ahead.

843
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: You know, Kansas Cities site is open right now, but

844
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Speaker 1: Kansas City's gonna get a little more probably eyeballs on it,

845
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Speaker 1: just because we haven't looked at it yet. But Vegas

846
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: we're in a pretty comfortable spot knowing that there are

847
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Speaker 1: certain locations identified. You'll see it on the strip and

848
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Speaker 1: everything else for those of that that are fully in Vegas.

849
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Speaker 1: So but you know, our focus solely remains right now

850
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Speaker 1: on Cleveland. We want to make sure we bring the

851
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Speaker 1: best show not just on site, but for for the

852
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Speaker 1: viewers as well. NFL Network Vice President of Production Charlie

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Speaker 1: York joins us here on the best podcast available with

854
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Speaker 1: Gibbs and Gribbs Night to Night three, Day three. I

855
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: should say, you know some it's made of Day one

856
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: and everything that goes into that, and you know, most

857
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: fans they'll know those names. Night to Day three a

858
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: little bit different. How do you go about figuring out

859
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: and again making it entertaining and just for the casual

860
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: fan to want to watch those two days of the draft,

861
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: which for Browns fans, night two is gonna be pretty important,

862
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: I think this year. Yeah, Look, it's what we gotta

863
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: do is be able to tell stories and we gotta

864
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: draw on motion and how do you do that? And

865
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: the way we think about that first is it's the

866
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: cropp of players will always decide how the narrative goes.

867
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: If the players aren't resonating, we can't help that. But

868
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: where we can't help that is with our announcers. So

869
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: on Friday night, when the ball tips at seven o'clock

870
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: Eastern on that April NFL network, you're gonna see Rich Eyes,

871
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: you need see Daniel Jeremiah, you see Charles Davis, you

872
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: see Joel Clapp, you'll see Chris Rose, You'll see Peter Schreeger,

873
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: You'll see Ian Rappaport, You'll see Melissa's stark. I mean,

874
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: it's an army of people that have been preparing since,

875
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: like I said, last May, that are ready to put

876
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: on a great show. Um, and we've got every angle covered,

877
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, which is the utmost host. Daniel is as

878
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: prepared as any draft analysts there's out there. Charles Davis

879
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: does NFL games all year long, and Joel is the

880
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: lead college football guy for Fox. So we've got that

881
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: perfect harmony. I think of every base cover I you

882
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: know is gonna break news at some point, we're gonna

883
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: go to him. Melissa will handle the interviews on stage

884
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: and for a little bit, you know, of of a

885
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: different kind of view of it. We've got Chris Rose

886
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: with Peter Schrieger from everyone's familiar with Good Morning Football.

887
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: You know, he's clued into all thirty two teams as well.

888
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: So we think we got a bite of every apple

889
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: here to make Friday interesting and then Saturday and May

890
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: one when it goes from twelve to seven on NFL Network. Yeah. Look,

891
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: it's it's easy for the casual fan to be like,

892
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of boring, what's going on. But you guys know,

893
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: everyone points to Tom Brady on on pick, everyone points

894
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: to all these guys. You're gonna find Hall of famers

895
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: and players who make it, you know, a contribution on

896
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: this day. So it's incumbent upon us to tell the

897
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: viewer why just pick important, frame those things with research

898
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: analysis tapes, UM, and present the best announcers that we can.

899
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: And that day again, we've got Rich Eyes and Daniel Jeremiah,

900
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: Charles Davis, Peter Schreeger. Um, I'll take that group to

901
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: war anywhere. UM. And we've got a lot of good

902
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: things planned for Saturday specifically as well, you know, Run

903
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: Rich Run, which has been a huge initiative for St. Jude,

904
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: which is a great cause that typically runs during Combine

905
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: Battle air UH. Day three on NFL Network, UM, there

906
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: is a special Hall of Fame show. I know that's

907
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, Hall of Fame near and dear to the

908
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: state of Ohio that we're gonna be pushing through. That

909
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: airs later that night as well, immediately following the draft.

910
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: UM In America's favorite segment on Day three on NFL

911
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Network is back, which is Stumped the Truck where we

912
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: have our guys kind of asked the wonderful tape team

913
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: we got, do you have this video of this random player?

914
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: It's either yes or no, and for some reason it's

915
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: always kind of trended on Twitter. That's our goal again,

916
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: and it provides a little bit of break of just

917
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: like pick pick pick pick pick, which again, those are important,

918
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: those recaps, but we want to have a little fun too.

919
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: What's the one or a couple of aspects of the

920
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: draft coverage that may go unnoticed that by the casual

921
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: fan that is for your source of pride, like something

922
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: you guys put so much work into to just even

923
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: make happen for the broadcast. Yeah, I think it's the

924
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: work the men and women do behind the scenes, right

925
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: that the announcers are the famous people. But we've got,

926
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: like I said, there's a there's it's a small army

927
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: of people that are making all these tapes. It's five

928
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: folks in l A. It's two folks in NFL Films

929
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: that are putting everything together. And it's not like this

930
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: this assembly line of people like dozens and dozens of people. Honestly,

931
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: it's like a handful of folks that put everything together.

932
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: And those are the ones you know, they're the ones

933
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: who are putting in the effort here. And I would

934
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: say this to our announcers. The people don't see that.

935
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: They just assume they roll the ball out right rolling

936
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: there at seven o'clock when they're on there. That's not

937
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: the case either. Like we've got guys grind and tape watching,

938
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, every night, making their notes, working on the

939
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: talking to each other, talking to the clubs. Those guys

940
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: are all as connected to all thirty two teams as

941
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: anyone Else's um that. But the fact of the matter

942
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: is they're putting in the time and the effort to

943
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: do this. So that's what I think that I think

944
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: people may take for granted when they just turn on

945
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: the remote, they just assume things just happened. This is

946
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: not a hyperbole. This has been happening since May. And

947
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: and you're like you kind of said like we had

948
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: to be ready for variables, but we're prepared for those variables.

949
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: And and I'm shocked right now. And that's rare for

950
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: me to say that some of the high production value

951
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: we have of this stuff not because I didn't think

952
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: we can do it, but just because the expectations for

953
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: greatness have been over Like they're completely over the top

954
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: now and I just can't wait to share all this

955
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: stuff everyone. How have you seen Daniel Jeremiah grow? I

956
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: mean he he was essentially the number two to Maya

957
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: and then and then Mike goes and becomes the GM

958
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: out and at the time l I now of Las Vegas.

959
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: But here's a guy that really has found his niche

960
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: and on our end, I know, we love to talk

961
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: to him. Uh, he breaks it down as well as anybody.

962
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: How have you seen how fun is it to see

963
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: some of these guys really kind of developed as you go. Yeah,

964
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: I think it's I'm never gonna be a head football coach,

965
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: but it's kind of identifying knowing that, hey, your quarterback

966
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: here is going to be the starter at some point.

967
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: And he handled it with professionalism, He handled it with

968
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: work ethic. Um. I think there were always rumors right

969
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: that at some point Mike could get a job. Listen,

970
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: they're always rumors right now with Daniel, like he's been

971
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Pegg sometime, but we've we we identified it pretty early on.

972
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: So we made sure, hey, let's give him the opportunity

973
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: to showcase his skill set on a stage that's worth it.

974
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: And when when we made the decision to kind of

975
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: move into that main set in Philadelphia twenty seventeen, that

976
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: kind of shipped in the narrative. So by the time

977
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: that Mike did leave, when he was ready to take

978
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: the number one reps, it wasn't gonna be foreign to him.

979
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: And look that it sounds crazy, but it's like, I'm

980
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: so proud of the work that he's put in and

981
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: all the accolade he's getting because he worked hard at it,

982
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: and like, like it's hard. It's easy to say, like, yeah,

983
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: he works hard whatever, he's good at it. But he's

984
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: also a good person. And you guys know this, You've

985
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: you've talked to him. He's so fluid into every single club,

986
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: whether it's at the ownership GM level, Um, you know,

987
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: he's he's as a good a person there is. And

988
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: that's why every any source of success he's gotten is

989
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: it makes me happy just because he's earned it. He's

990
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: earned every every bit of it. And uh now he's

991
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: he's pretty fired up to I talked to him every

992
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: day and he's we're ready, not only to be in Cleveland,

993
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: but like I said, he's he's like, let's rehearse let's rehearse.

994
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're two weeks away. This last night, Like

995
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: we're two weeks away. We can hear. No, he's putting

996
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: a lot of work. He works. Activity is an achievement,

997
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: per se. But I've seen some of the stuff he's doing,

998
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: and like I said, we're gonna be this is, this

999
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: is these are I know these are vague teasers, but

1000
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: we we are going to wow se player, I hope.

1001
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: And can you kind of explain the process that goes

1002
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: into getting the footage and inside these prospects home and

1003
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: how how that works and how that's kind of advanced

1004
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: now after what you guys went through last year. Yeah,

1005
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: the good news there is that the league kind of

1006
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: took over that last year and it's made it easier

1007
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: on all the broadcast partners. So once we realized we

1008
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: had to be socially distant and you know, adhere to

1009
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: all this health and safety rules, uh, from an operation

1010
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: player level, um, you know, management council, they reached out

1011
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: to the players the reps and just be like, hey,

1012
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: we always want to have an always on camera and

1013
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: an ability to talk back. So a lot of this

1014
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: stuff has already been worked out, Like I will probably

1015
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: get upwards of sixty about player remote homes. Um, they

1016
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: know that it's gonna be there, It's gonna be good

1017
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: for them. We're not trying to you know, supersede any moment.

1018
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: We're not gonna tip any pick. We're not there to

1019
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: try to you know, damage anyone's credibility or reputation if

1020
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: they for some reason they slide. Were there really to

1021
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: show a celebratory moment of a huge moment. How many

1022
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: people get drafted in the NFL. We want to share

1023
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: that moment with that only that player, their family, that

1024
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: fan base. Um, So it's worked out pretty well. The

1025
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: technical part of it, man, there's so many more people

1026
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: sparter than me that know how to figure that stuff

1027
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: out from like two different iPhones or two different smaller cameras.

1028
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: But it works. And I think, unless you guys are

1029
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: telling me, I think that's a very enjoyable part of

1030
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: the broadcast for a lot of viewers, just seeing those

1031
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: emotional moments with their families going to you know the

1032
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: Browns again. NFL Network First Round coverage comes away Thursday night,

1033
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: April nine, at eight pm. Rich Eyes and Daniel Jeremiah,

1034
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: Charles Davis David Shaw, Kurt Warnered, Joel Klatt, rap Sheet,

1035
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: Melissa Stark and then UH Friday and Friday Night, UH

1036
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: Eyes and Jeremiah Davis and Clatt and then Chris Rose,

1037
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: Peter Schregor rap sheet, Melissa Stark. I know, Uh, I know,

1038
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: our guy Joe Thomas will be part of the pre

1039
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: show and then Saturday Eyes in Jeremiah Charles Davis and

1040
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: of course p Shreg's will join us as well. Before

1041
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: we let you go, Charlie Yuk, is there a moment

1042
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: that staying out to you? Is there? Is there a

1043
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: favorite moment in terms of doing this for the last

1044
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: however many years you've been doing it that stands out

1045
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: to you. I think it's the most recent one we did, uh,

1046
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: that we were able to do in Nashville, just in

1047
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I think the fairest way to say it,

1048
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: when things were normal and seeing a half a million

1049
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: people up and down Broadway on that strip and having

1050
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: that long camera shot UM hopefully want of them. You

1051
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: know we're gonna get back to one of those days,

1052
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: which I think we will, um, but that moment still

1053
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: sticks out just because of the massive humanity and the

1054
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: celebrations we had that night. Um, I think it's not

1055
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: going to be as crowded for obvious reasons in two weeks.

1056
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: But I think all of us here, no Cleveland's gonna

1057
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: show up. They're gonna be ready to go, and I

1058
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have some of those kind of type

1059
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: the same moments as well, and I honestly we can't wait. Well,

1060
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: the pride of Miami. I know that everybody's proud of

1061
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: all you've accomplished down there, and from two other maction guys,

1062
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: we love it and I look forward to having some

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Speaker 1: action all weekend. Yeah, it's gonna be a great show. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Vice President Production, Charlie, you look spending a few minutes

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Speaker 1: with us. Charlie, best wishes in NFL Networks coverage. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to NFL Network Vice President of Production, Charlie you look

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Speaker 1: for a few minutes of his time, Gribbs, It's gonna

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Speaker 1: and uh, quite the undertaking that NFL Networks doing. After

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Speaker 1: a year of all virtual, it's gonna be a little virtual.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot in person though the commissioner

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Speaker 1: will be here. In one week from now, he will

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Speaker 1: be on the stage announcing draft picks for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be what Cleveland could bring to its

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Speaker 1: full potential, but it's going to be something, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's that's gonna be kind of a tent pole

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Speaker 1: event as we get as close to normal as we

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Speaker 1: that's loved the draft for years and thankfully you get

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Speaker 1: as much as you did in the past. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not a bad thing to be picking. And if we're

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Speaker 1: come to you on Tuesday in advance of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: It's our final look at the draft before it all

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