Speaker 1: Sometimes in life you make an impulsive decision for all
Speaker 1: the right reasons justice, dignity, reckless, abandon etc. That immediately
Speaker 1: plunges you into the deep end in way over your head.
Speaker 1: And when that happens, you tend to examine your life choices.
Speaker 2: There I was inside the closet.
Speaker 1: We last left Anne Walsh, trapped to two in the
Speaker 1: morning in a roasting utility closet after the raid on
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia draft board had gone horrendously wrong.
Speaker 3: Before I knew it, I heard those barking dogs with
Speaker 3: a canine squad.
Speaker 1: Anne wasn't even supposed to be part of this raid,
Speaker 1: but she had filled in at the last minute.
Speaker 3: Policeman came was with a drawing gun.
Speaker 1: Everyone else had known the escape plan. If they got caught,
Speaker 1: they scurried down a certain staircase into the Philadelphia night.
Speaker 1: Now she was all alone in the dark in a
Speaker 1: city she didn't know. It must have felt like the
Speaker 1: ass not Michael Collins floating around the dark side of
Speaker 1: the moon, no contact with humanity, while Neil Armstrong traps
Speaker 1: across the lunar surface. Anne Walsh was a woman desperately
Speaker 1: in need of a lifeline.
Speaker 2: I was taken down to the ground floor, my hands
Speaker 2: behind my back, handcuffed to a chair.
Speaker 3: But it was these dogs, like you know, circling me.
Speaker 3: So I'm praying, like to Saint Francis of a sissy,
Speaker 3: Oh please love you don't do that.
Speaker 1: Now Anne would be arrested, her one fear of disgracing
Speaker 1: her war hero father realized.
Speaker 2: And one policeman said, frankly, I'd like to piss all
Speaker 2: over you.
Speaker 1: Police forces are kind of like hockey teams. You got
Speaker 1: your finesse players, and you got your goons tonight and
Speaker 1: got all the goons.
Speaker 2: And that was like so horrified to me that someone
Speaker 2: would speak to me in that way.
Speaker 1: She's been just over a year away from the convent,
Speaker 1: and now she'd likely face years in prison.
Speaker 2: And I thought I was done for. I thought I
Speaker 2: was done for.
Speaker 3: Remember four draft boards now had been discovered ravaged, and
Speaker 3: I was the only suspect.
Speaker 1: She was about to have the legal weight of this
Speaker 1: entire action and the broader actions of the whole movement
Speaker 1: rained down on her.
Speaker 3: I thought I would never see the light of day
Speaker 3: because of all these crimes that had been committed and
Speaker 3: me caught red handed.
Speaker 1: Ann was in way over her head, but then Paul
Speaker 1: Cooming rushed onto the scene.
Speaker 4: I was the only carle that went.
Speaker 3: Actually, this is like a snowy winter night and this
Speaker 3: is the heart of the man of Paul coombing from
Speaker 3: Dorchester from Saint Leo's. He was maybe nineteen or twenty
Speaker 3: at the time, but he looked twelve. He planted himself
Speaker 3: outside to be found.
Speaker 4: I just sat there by the exit door so I
Speaker 4: would not be alone.
Speaker 1: In her darkest hour. Paul staged himself to be arrested
Speaker 1: along with Anne Walsh.
Speaker 5: They police came up and asked me what I was
Speaker 5: doing there, and I said I was waiting for somebody
Speaker 5: to come out of the train terminal. Then they took
Speaker 5: me out of the car and put me in handcuffs
Speaker 5: and put me in a Patti wagon.
Speaker 1: They stuck Paul in the back of a police fan
Speaker 1: and then one of the Feds climbed in with him.
Speaker 4: He came in and started asking me questions and started
Speaker 4: slapping me around on the face and telling me to
Speaker 4: answer his questions and tell me who else was involved
Speaker 4: and all this, and I just kept saying, please don't
Speaker 4: hit me, Please don't hit me. That's all I had
Speaker 4: ever answered, but I had my head been down like
Speaker 4: this to try to protect myself a little bit, and.
Speaker 1: Slapping like an Paul was an idealist, and like many idealists,
Speaker 1: he was finding out, to the tune of the Little
Speaker 1: Chin music, what happens when he took a stand for
Speaker 1: justice in an unjust world.
Speaker 4: I've memorized the whole patent on his shoes. He had
Speaker 4: wingtips shoes.
Speaker 1: On wingtips, you'll remember where the trademark dress code of
Speaker 1: FBI agents, as insisted upon by Jay Edgar Hoover.
Speaker 4: So I ended up in the cell and I see
Speaker 4: Anne Walls being brought in right next to her the
Speaker 4: cell I was going to be put in. He was
Speaker 4: just so thrilled to see that I was there, that
Speaker 4: somebody else was with her, and he was totally absolutely aloft.
Speaker 1: Paul was taking a massive risk. He had already by
Speaker 1: this point, as you may remember from episode one, mailed
Speaker 1: his draft card back to the government, and now he
Speaker 1: had just put his head in the lion's mouth. I'm
Speaker 1: Brendan Patrick Hughes, and this is Divine Intervention, Chapter five.
Speaker 1: The red double doors on Park Street. While outside agitators
Speaker 1: Anne and Paul were awaiting arraignment in the Philadelphia Slammer. Inside, incrementalists,
Speaker 1: Patrick and Floyd were starting to build a bona fide movement.
Speaker 1: Young people from all over town were flocking to their
Speaker 1: subterranean headquarters to serve restaurant meals to the poor, to
Speaker 1: study books on liberation theology, and to raucously celebrate their
Speaker 1: wild Sunday liturgies. The basement walls were festooned with colorful
Speaker 1: felt banners covered in birds and hearts and forceful phrases
Speaker 1: on love. From the confines of their basement purgatory, Patrick
Speaker 1: and Floyd felt they were finally fulfilling John the twenty
Speaker 1: Third's promise of Vatican two and dragging the most powerful
Speaker 1: religious organization in the world into the twentieth century. They
Speaker 1: wanted desperately to change this old institution into an example
Speaker 1: of what a world changing twentieth century Catholic Church could be.
Speaker 1: But the problem was the priests upstairs were having none
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 6: Everything was an argument. This is Floyd, it becomes wearing,
Speaker 6: it wears on you, let war on me. Over time, he.
Speaker 1: And Patrick quickly discovered how uncomfortable change truly is.
Speaker 6: You know, when you go into the common room where
Speaker 6: people would go perhaps just shortly before supper, maybe you
Speaker 6: have a cocktail, and maybe stop afterwards to watch the
Speaker 6: news or something like that, or chat a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I would say that if one or both of us
Speaker 6: came in there, it sort of emptied out.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They were incredibly popular. Hundreds of
Speaker 1: young people were stuffing themselves into their basement on Sundays,
Speaker 1: and it was becoming increasingly clear that things were headed
Speaker 1: for a showdown. The boys had clearly outgrown their basement,
Speaker 1: but with the Cardigan Brigade upstairs blocking their every move,
Speaker 1: they had absolutely no idea what to do. But then
Speaker 1: crazy thing, one of those old fellas started wandering downstairs
Speaker 1: to hang out with them. He saw what those crazy
Speaker 1: kids were up to, and he liked it. I won't
Speaker 1: tell you his name because his name was Bob, and
Speaker 1: there are about nineteen other people in this show also
Speaker 1: named Bob because Catholics. So this unnamed man from upstairs
Speaker 1: at the Poula Center asked if he could defect from
Speaker 1: the upstairs meanis and join in on their basement shenanigans.
Speaker 6: And that was the foothold Jim Carroll that Floyd.
Speaker 7: And Patrick were able to stand on as they quickly
Speaker 7: began to change the way things were done into Paula Center.
Speaker 1: Patrick and Floyd had made their first alliance, their first
Speaker 1: bona fide work friend, a single casino chip on which
Speaker 1: to build an empire. As noted in Father X's Mysterious.
Speaker 8: Notebook, concept of the teen Ministry emerges out of the
Speaker 8: needs of the community.
Speaker 1: So they named themselves the Team, and together the three
Speaker 1: of them came up with a plan to take over
Speaker 1: the chapel upstairs. They started off, according to Father X,
Speaker 1: by attempting to go through the proper.
Speaker 8: Channels a petition with seven hundred signatures from barishioners to
Speaker 8: be allowed to use the chapel.
Speaker 6: As ignored, we tried to appeal within the house first
Speaker 6: and couldn't get it.
Speaker 1: Pre steupstairs were not about to let these young turks
Speaker 1: have the keys to the company Cadillac, so their only
Speaker 1: recourse was to start punching below the belt.
Speaker 8: Patrick and Floyd refused to take collections at the four
Speaker 8: pm and six pm liturgies, the loss of four hundred
Speaker 8: and fifty dollars a week for the center.
Speaker 1: The Paula Center was in serious debt and Patrick and
Speaker 1: Floyd knew it. When they stopped taking collections at their
Speaker 1: controversial basement liturgies, the place started losing in today money
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars a week. But despite Patrick and Floyd
Speaker 1: turning off this money faucet, the brass still wouldn't budge.
Speaker 8: The crisis point. March eighth, nineteen seventy, the team decided
Speaker 8: that on the following Sunday they will take over chapel
Speaker 8: by imminent domain.
Speaker 1: So the boys prepared the community to march up stairs
Speaker 1: and occupy the chapel.
Speaker 6: We're told that if we did, they were going to
Speaker 6: call it the lade The resident priests.
Speaker 8: Why are the New York hierarchy saying that if the
Speaker 8: team is allowed upstairs? They were refused to say any
Speaker 8: further mess.
Speaker 1: Now the whole place is in an uproar.
Speaker 6: So then we had to appeal to Scarsdale.
Speaker 1: Scarsdale is where the Policies have their national headquarters, where
Speaker 1: the Superior General has his office.
Speaker 8: Paulists throughout the country are in a state of turmoils
Speaker 8: in regards to the goings on at Park Street.
Speaker 1: Now, polists all over the country were gnashing their teeth.
Speaker 1: So the heads of the National Order came to Boston
Speaker 1: to sort things out.
Speaker 8: The council meets with the whole Policy Center.
Speaker 9: I can still kind of picture him in that room.
Speaker 1: That's Christine Truffant. She was there. She was a local
Speaker 1: college kid who had discovered Patrick and Floyd's basement liturgies
Speaker 1: and volunteered in many of their programs.
Speaker 9: He talked to us in the basement of the church,
Speaker 9: and it was a very crowded meeting.
Speaker 3: As I remember, I.
Speaker 9: Was horrified and so surprised to realize he was really
Speaker 9: wet his finger and telling us we better get in line.
Speaker 3: I just think it was a matter of control.
Speaker 1: Never before had the policed hierarchy had to reprimand its
Speaker 1: parishioners for their enthusiasm.
Speaker 3: The hierarchy was so scared.
Speaker 2: What were they afraid of?
Speaker 1: After a presidential tongue lashing for the youngs downstairs, it
Speaker 1: was time for a showdown with the Cardigan brigade upstairs.
Speaker 1: That meeting was intense.
Speaker 8: All anger and hostility is out in the open for
Speaker 8: the first time. The regulars want the team kicked out.
Speaker 8: The house is now in two armed.
Speaker 1: Camps, sitting in this deeply uncomfortable face to face confrontation
Speaker 1: with the men upstairs. Patrick and Floyd said fuck it
Speaker 1: and gave the Order president the hard sell.
Speaker 8: They wanted. First control of the whole apostolic operation, second
Speaker 8: financial autonomy, third, two more members for the team, and
Speaker 8: fourth reassignment of residence priests to other centers.
Speaker 1: A stunned silence at their unmitigated gall filled the room.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing the President of the Order could
Speaker 1: not deny. Patrick and Floyd were the ones that had
Speaker 1: the box office to make the center financially solvent. He
Speaker 1: had no choice but to grant the chapel to the team.
Speaker 1: Their gamble worked. Patrick and Floyd, the young turks, the
Speaker 1: fucking new guys who had only arrived the year prior,
Speaker 1: suddenly found themselves in charge of the entire goddamn Paulas Center.
Speaker 8: May of nineteen seventy and Tobin joined the team. That
Speaker 8: is a revolutionary act.
Speaker 1: Tobin was appointed to be a female lay minister, which
Speaker 1: sent shockwaves.
Speaker 9: This is really advanced stuff for the time, and I
Speaker 9: know now it probably doesn't seem like a big deal,
Speaker 9: but to introduce a woman into the mex It's great.
Speaker 1: Patrick and Floyd had huge plans. Patrick and Floyd were
Speaker 1: coming down the mountain. Patrick and Floyd were going to
Speaker 1: drag this dusty institution into the twentieth century, whether it
Speaker 1: liked it or not. But that, you guys, that is
Speaker 1: the exact moment Marianne walked through the front doors and
Speaker 1: into our story.
Speaker 10: He had on a blue button down shirt and a
Speaker 10: pair of jeans and loafers and his incredible, fantastic smile,
Speaker 10: and he walked in and gave me the hugest grin,
Speaker 10: a huge Patrick grin, and.
Speaker 11: It was this incredible moment of absolutely love at first sight,
Speaker 11: just was boom and then gone, you know, and then of.
Speaker 10: Course, I mean, my god, he's a priest.
Speaker 1: You've heard from Marianne a lot already, but this is
Speaker 1: where she first enters our story, walking through the Paula
Speaker 1: Center's iconic pair of red double doors, meeting Patrick and
Speaker 1: falling in love on the spot with a Roman Catholic priest.
Speaker 1: But if you knew anything about Marianne's life up until
Speaker 1: this point, you would know this was basically the exact
Speaker 1: opposite of what was likely to happen in this scenario.
Speaker 1: Marianne had been to Hell and back and didn't have
Speaker 1: room in her life for some infatuation with an unavailable man.
Speaker 1: Marianne grew up in Milton, which is next to Dorchester.
Speaker 1: Her mother died of stomach cancer when she was ten
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 12: My father comes in one morning, it was about five
Speaker 12: o'clock or something, and wakes me up to say, mummy's
Speaker 12: very sick, but did you have to get up? And
Speaker 12: I'm sitting there, and father Carlin opens the front door, like.
Speaker 13: With this huge swish.
Speaker 10: The door just slams open, and he takes.
Speaker 12: The stairs two at a time or three at a time,
Speaker 12: and races upstairs.
Speaker 1: A Catholic priest was the harbinger of her mother's death.
Speaker 12: Like I was in absolute denial about what was going
Speaker 12: on until I saw him do that.
Speaker 1: After that, Marianne entered a period of deep loneliness. Her father,
Speaker 1: a traveling salesman, then hastily married his manicurist, who was
Speaker 1: vindictive and strange and permanently inebriated. This made Marianne a
Speaker 1: bit of a Cinderella, and when she graduated high school,
Speaker 1: she was determined to escape the cruelty of her neglectful
Speaker 1: father and wicked stepmother and get the living hell out
Speaker 1: of Milton, Massachusetts, and lucky for her. The US go
Speaker 1: government was in the middle of a program it called
Speaker 1: the War on Poverty.
Speaker 10: JFK founded the Peace Corps and Vista. He created these vehicles,
Speaker 10: and then he called this whole generation forward to serve
Speaker 10: that how you could be fully human and fully alive
Speaker 10: is by serving.
Speaker 1: Vista was to the domestic United States what the Peace
Speaker 1: Corps was to struggling nations around the world. So Vista
Speaker 1: volunteers were deployed to help alleviate poverty and small struggling
Speaker 1: communities throughout the US.
Speaker 10: I'd gone into Vista mainly because I had to get
Speaker 10: out of town. I was like a goody two shoes.
Speaker 10: I mean, I could have gone in the convent or
Speaker 10: joined Vista, but I liked to party too much for
Speaker 10: the convent, so better to go to Vista.
Speaker 1: Marianne was stationed just about as far from Milton as
Speaker 1: she could be in Laredo, Texas.
Speaker 10: Oh my god, I learned so much being with other
Speaker 10: young people, and we were all being educated about the
Speaker 10: world and how it worked and our role in it,
Speaker 10: our potential around impacting it and really making a difference.
Speaker 10: And we believed that we could and we saw that
Speaker 10: we did. I met Caesar Chavez. I stood on a bridge.
Speaker 1: With him, and she experienced a fairly massive political awakening.
Speaker 10: I was just so influenced by those times, and it
Speaker 10: grounded me. It sort of took me. That experience took
Speaker 10: me and just planted my feet firmly in a foundation
Speaker 10: that I've never veered from in terms of my work,
Speaker 10: the work I want to do in the world.
Speaker 1: Marianne stayed in Laredo for two years, organizing, fighting for
Speaker 1: justice and learning what kind of difference you could make
Speaker 1: in the world. But when her tour was over, she
Speaker 1: faced the terrifying specter of returning to Boston, the loneliness
Speaker 1: of her life there, and the cruelty of her stepmother.
Speaker 1: So she looked around and hooked up with the only
Speaker 1: other twenty something in Laredo, Texas, a local kid named
Speaker 1: Mike Woodward.
Speaker 10: Mike I think had enormous potential, handsome. He lived on
Speaker 10: the border, which is a culture that makes your head spin.
Speaker 1: And quite confoundingly, like so many people of Marianne's generation,
Speaker 1: despite being twenty zero, they immediately planned to get married.
Speaker 10: Why in the name of God we thought we should
Speaker 10: get married. We didn't know each other. The chemistry was
Speaker 10: so overwhelming that we thought let's just do it. It
Speaker 10: wasn't like I knew him. Well, we couldn't have sex.
Speaker 10: Otherwise you married the first person you had sex with.
Speaker 10: It's so prehistoric. Yeah, And the first person I had
Speaker 10: sex with was Mike Woodward. Therefore I married him.
Speaker 14: It all makes sense now.
Speaker 1: He knew just the place for a shotgun wedding. So
Speaker 1: Mary Ann, Mike and their Vista pals caravans deep into Mexico.
Speaker 10: How we get to this place in Mexico is by
Speaker 10: following the electric wires. Are no roads. It took us
Speaker 10: till midnight to get to the place. We knock on
Speaker 10: the Justice of the Piece's door and she comes down
Speaker 10: in her nightgown. We're in a garage and she marries
Speaker 10: us in Spanish, which of course I didn't understand, but
Speaker 10: I did say see.
Speaker 1: Marianne and Mike then tried to settle down. They got
Speaker 1: a little place, and Mike got a job.
Speaker 10: Mike had been raised in a really macho culture, and
Speaker 10: I have a vivid memory we had been demonstrating for
Speaker 10: higher wages for restaurant workers, and we'd been demonstrating in
Speaker 10: front of this restaurant and hadn't told him I was going,
Speaker 10: so I was on TV footage that night. Mike came
Speaker 10: home like enraged and actually pushed me that night, and
Speaker 10: I was pregnant with Chrissy.
Speaker 1: The mic she had dated was not showing up in
Speaker 1: her marriage. Mary Anne started to get a sinking feeling
Speaker 1: that perhaps she was in way over her head. The
Speaker 1: loneliness that had chased her since her mother's death caught
Speaker 1: back up to her.
Speaker 10: That was the patriarchal culture. You know that you had
Speaker 10: a right to tell your quote unquote wife what she
Speaker 10: could do.
Speaker 15: I asked my mom, like, why didn't you guys decide
Speaker 15: to have kids so young?
Speaker 1: Crazy Marianne's daughter Chrissy, and she said.
Speaker 10: I think because I was so lonely. Chrissy was born
Speaker 10: in August, and then Jojo was born a year and
Speaker 10: a half later.
Speaker 1: Mike Woodward was one part dreamer and two parts banned
Speaker 1: it with a twist of instability. He moved them around
Speaker 1: every few months in search of a purpose.
Speaker 8: He was just a.
Speaker 10: Lost soul and was desperately trying to find himself or
Speaker 10: his place in the world or anything, any kind of
Speaker 10: meaning or purpose or whatever. And it wasn't being a
Speaker 10: young husband with a wife and children building a little
Speaker 10: life together.
Speaker 1: By the time Joe Joe was born, Mike was spending
Speaker 1: weeks at a time away from the family.
Speaker 10: I don't even know if maybe he'd been maybe doing
Speaker 10: some drugs at that point, but when he came back,
Speaker 10: he was just convinced that we all needed to go
Speaker 10: like a bunch of homesteaders to Taos, New Mexico.
Speaker 15: The last place we lived with him was in a
Speaker 15: thing called that Kiva and Taos.
Speaker 1: Akiva is an ancient Pueblo meeting space dug into the
Speaker 1: ground with earthen walls and floors. Mike had found an
Speaker 1: abandoned one, and, being a committed hippie, decided to start
Speaker 1: over with Marianne and the kids as homesteaders.
Speaker 10: It's not really a place that you could have two
Speaker 10: infants because it was so traumatic and shocking to be
Speaker 10: living in a mud hut.
Speaker 16: Like.
Speaker 10: She couldn't put us down having two babies. She could
Speaker 10: put Joe down on the ground. You had to get
Speaker 10: wood to boil water that kind of stove. Awful, awful, awful.
Speaker 10: The next crisis is Jojo got sick.
Speaker 1: Jojo suffered from horrible asthma and had quickly developed pneumonia.
Speaker 10: I'm walking down the highway with these two kids from
Speaker 10: the hospital, carrying Joe on my backpack and Chrissy in
Speaker 10: the carriage. I was so clear I'm done.
Speaker 1: Then two nights before Christmas.
Speaker 10: So Christmas came. You can imagine how pleasant that was.
Speaker 1: Mike showed up all hepped up on goofballs.
Speaker 10: Christy was in a crib and Jojo was in another crib.
Speaker 10: I was asleep. He came in in the middle of
Speaker 10: the night and I think was on drugs. Joe woke
Speaker 10: up and was crying. I went to pick up Jokes.
Speaker 10: I know, I had Joe in my arms. Then Chrisy
Speaker 10: woke up and just screamed at the top of her lungs.
Speaker 10: He goes over to Chrissy's crib, and I felt like
Speaker 10: Mike was going almost like after her, and I grabbed
Speaker 10: his arm to not allow that, and I had Joe
Speaker 10: in my arms, and he started to hit me.
Speaker 15: I remember being under them or between them, and Mike
Speaker 15: like hitting my mom.
Speaker 10: So I'm sort of holding Jojo. I'm bent over to
Speaker 10: protect him, and he's hitting me from the back, and.
Speaker 15: She was crouching over Joe. I had Joe in her
Speaker 15: arms and I was beneath them somehow, and he took off.
Speaker 1: After Mike left, Marianne was alone with two children who
Speaker 1: needed something better than this. The next day, there was
Speaker 1: a knock at the door.
Speaker 10: And it's four of Mike's friends from Austin. I was like,
Speaker 10: what are you doing here? They found us because they
Speaker 10: had some sort of intuition something was wrong.
Speaker 1: What gave them the intuition, I don't know.
Speaker 10: They didn't know. They were just really worried and thought
Speaker 10: something might be really wrong.
Speaker 1: Austin to Taos is a twelve hour drive. These old
Speaker 1: friends had all felt their Spidey sense tingling, and driven
Speaker 1: all night on Christmas Eve, I.
Speaker 10: Looked at those guys and, honest to God, it was
Speaker 10: like it was like the Three Kings arrived with their
Speaker 10: incense and Mrror and you know whatever. Really it was Christmas. Honestly,
Speaker 10: it was a Christmas miracle. I couldn't believe it. They said,
Speaker 10: we were just really worried about you, and I said,
Speaker 10: the minute they said I have to get out of here,
Speaker 10: that was it, Brendan, it was divine intervention.
Speaker 1: Marianne grabbed a bag of diapers and threw a few
Speaker 1: shirts in a backpack. She loaded the kids into the
Speaker 1: car and left her husband.
Speaker 10: We fled in the middle of the night. It took
Speaker 10: everything for me to get to where it was I
Speaker 10: needed to be to be able to leave, but I
Speaker 10: didn't have anywhere to go.
Speaker 1: Her friends brought her back to Austin, where she and
Speaker 1: the kids crashed on their couch for a few weeks,
Speaker 1: listening to Buffalo Springfield's Yellow album and wondering what the
Speaker 1: hell she was going to do. Mike found out, of course,
Speaker 1: and followed her to Austin, where she told him their
Speaker 1: marriage was over.
Speaker 10: First he's pleading with me to come back together again.
Speaker 10: Then he's threatening me. He's going to take the kids.
Speaker 10: He's taking out all the stops. He was basically saying,
Speaker 10: I was really wrong and I really want a do over,
Speaker 10: and I couldn't do I just couldn't do it. Couldn't
Speaker 10: do it. No, the answer is no.
Speaker 1: He came back to the apartment repeatedly, and eventually she
Speaker 1: wouldn't even open the screen door for him.
Speaker 10: There was a night he came to the apartment again,
Speaker 10: pleading again, and I was again saying I can't do
Speaker 10: it and he ran out of the apartment. Just desperate.
Speaker 1: Mike was running down Guadalupe Street along the UT Austin campus,
Speaker 1: known to locals as the Drag. He felt his life
Speaker 1: falling apart, and he ran up to the first person
Speaker 1: he saw.
Speaker 10: He literally ran up to a man in a trench coat, saying,
Speaker 10: I need help. He had no idea who the guy was,
Speaker 10: he just looked official.
Speaker 1: Mike had randomly run up to a Paulish priest named
Speaker 1: Jack Campbell who worked at UT Austin.
Speaker 10: So Jack brought him in to the rectory and learned
Speaker 10: about the whole story, and he could see the trouble
Speaker 10: Mike was in mentally.
Speaker 1: So Jack agreed to go talk to Mary.
Speaker 10: And there's Jack Campbell again in a trench coat. He
Speaker 10: looks completely official, and he said, are you Marianne Woodward?
Speaker 10: And I said yes, And he said, my name's Jack Campbell.
Speaker 10: I'm a priest and I have Mike down at the rectory.
Speaker 10: Can I come in? And I said sure.
Speaker 1: Turns out father Jack was from Boston, just like Marianne.
Speaker 1: It only took one conversation for him to see that
Speaker 1: Marianne did not belong in a marriage with Mike. And
Speaker 1: she needed to leave Texas. So over the next few weeks,
Speaker 1: Jack worked with Mike and mary Anne. They reached an
Speaker 1: agreement that Mike would seek medical treatment and mari Anne
Speaker 1: could return home to Boston. Then, in January of nineteen seventy,
Speaker 1: Jack drove mary Anne and the two kids to the airport,
Speaker 1: and while they stood there at the gate, Jack gave
Speaker 1: Marianne something he'd brought for her.
Speaker 10: He had written on his ordination card, which was I remember,
Speaker 10: I say, I might must still have the Ordination card.
Speaker 10: I'm sure I do. I'm sure I do. In a box.
Speaker 10: The ordination card was a quote from Tayar de Chardanne
Speaker 10: on the front.
Speaker 1: Tahar de Chardin was a Catholic mystic and let me
Speaker 1: tell you, and I say, this is basically an atheist.
Speaker 1: His writing is the shit.
Speaker 10: He handed me the card and he said, as he's
Speaker 10: handing me the card, I want you to look up
Speaker 10: this guy. He's my best friend in the world. You're
Speaker 10: really gonna love him. He's terrific. His name's on the
Speaker 10: back of the card.
Speaker 1: Father Jack had given mary Anne Patrick's number at the
Speaker 1: Paula Center.
Speaker 10: And then he said, and don't ever be afraid to
Speaker 10: fall in love again, And that was the last thing
Speaker 10: he said to me before I got on the plane.
Speaker 1: Mary Anne, at twenty three, flew home to Boston with
Speaker 1: her two tiny children. Jojo was nine months Chrissy was two,
Speaker 1: and she moved into an apartment on flo Florida Street
Speaker 1: in Dorchester.
Speaker 15: I was convinced that there was quicksand on Florida Street
Speaker 15: because Florida.
Speaker 10: I had two kids and not a nickel, nothing, and
Speaker 10: it was obvious I would have to go on welfare.
Speaker 10: I had no other option at that point.
Speaker 1: She met a caseworker, barely got her expenses covered, and
Speaker 1: settled into her new life in Dorchester. While she was unpacking,
Speaker 1: she came across the card father Jack had given her
Speaker 1: in Texas.
Speaker 10: I decided I would call Jack's friend Patrick. I don't
Speaker 10: know why exactly, but I decided I would call.
Speaker 1: But when she reached for the phone, something strange happened.
Speaker 10: When I sat down, I will never forget it. I
Speaker 10: put my hand on the receiver and I thought, this
Speaker 10: is one of the most important phone calls I'll ever
Speaker 10: make in my life. And then I proceeded to dial the.
Speaker 1: Number, brushing off that strange premonition. She diediled seven digits,
Speaker 1: and she and Patrick had a brief chat where he
Speaker 1: invited her to come down to the Paula Center sometime, and.
Speaker 10: I hung up. And I also then remember thinking I'm
Speaker 10: not going to go to the Pall Center. I mean,
Speaker 10: you know, I made the call because in some ways
Speaker 10: I felt almost obligated to Jack to make the call,
Speaker 10: and because I just made the call. But it wasn't
Speaker 10: as if I wanted to talk to a priest for
Speaker 10: sure about I don't know what God has put together,
Speaker 10: Let no man put us under.
Speaker 1: Say that box checked. With a new chapter of life
Speaker 1: to begin, she forgot all about the Paula Center and
Speaker 1: began to meet other tenants in the building.
Speaker 10: We all had kids about the same age, and everybody
Speaker 10: used to babysit for everybody else.
Speaker 1: She was determined to continue the political work she started
Speaker 1: in Vista.
Speaker 10: So I started doing welfare rights and we did some
Speaker 10: prison stuff.
Speaker 1: But then something horrifying happened on a campus in Ohio
Speaker 1: that would indirectly change the entire course of her life.
Speaker 10: The first week of May of nineteen seventy was the
Speaker 10: invasion of Cambodia, and it was the murders at Kent State.
Speaker 7: You earlier asked what was the pivotal moment, Jim Carroll,
Speaker 7: when young people began to understand that they were standing
Speaker 7: against something broad in the culture. And I've always thought
Speaker 7: that the pivotal moment was Kent State.
Speaker 17: Mixon, violating the promise he had made not to extend
Speaker 17: the Vietnam War, extended it by bombing Cambodia.
Speaker 1: Howard Zinn At Kent.
Speaker 17: State University, huge number of students got it on the
Speaker 17: campus lawn. The governor called out the National Guard.
Speaker 10: And the National Guard shot and killed four students.
Speaker 7: By then, it was well known that the government was
Speaker 7: capable of waging any immoral war ten thousand miles away.
Speaker 7: But at Kent stated began to feel like the government
Speaker 7: would turn its guns against young people.
Speaker 10: It was and there were so many moments during that
Speaker 10: time that were so chilling and so devastating about what
Speaker 10: was what, my god, what is going on in this world?
Speaker 10: How can this be happening?
Speaker 1: Despite the horrifying fact that the government was now deliberately
Speaker 1: killing protesters, Marianne felt she had a duty to voice
Speaker 1: her dissent.
Speaker 10: I had heard or read in the Globe that there
Speaker 10: was going to be a demonstration on the Boston Common,
Speaker 10: and so I packed up the kids, Joe on the
Speaker 10: backpack and Christian a carriage, and we walked to Ashmun
Speaker 10: station and go to Park Street and go to the demonstration.
Speaker 1: She and the kids marched and sang with protesters all afternoon,
Speaker 1: and when the demonstration was over, they were walking down
Speaker 1: Park Street back to the T station when she saw
Speaker 1: two sets of red double doors across the street.
Speaker 18: So I I said, oh my god, there's the pausitor.
Speaker 18: I should go say hello to Jack's friend. I should
Speaker 18: go over and say hello to Patrick. And I walk
Speaker 18: into the building. Just walking into the building, there was.
Speaker 10: A reception area and you could feel the aliveness of
Speaker 10: the place the minute you walked into it. And Pat Downing,
Speaker 10: who later became a good friend of mine, was sitting
Speaker 10: at the reception area, and she yells into the intercom system, Patrick,
Speaker 10: someone's here to see you. I waited a few minutes
Speaker 10: and I'm just sort of standing around with the two kids,
Speaker 10: and Patrick walked in. And I was anticipating that a
Speaker 10: priest would.
Speaker 1: Walk in, but Patrick, always in a city's was not
Speaker 1: at all what one picture is when one thinks of
Speaker 1: a Catholic priest.
Speaker 11: And it was this incredible moment of absolutely love at
Speaker 11: first sight.
Speaker 1: They each quickly tried to brush off what happen and
Speaker 1: when they locked eyes and said a friendly hello. He
Speaker 1: had moved his office upstairs from the basement, and he
Speaker 1: took Marianne and the kids into one of the conference
Speaker 1: rooms where a bunch of volunteers were working on big projects.
Speaker 10: And it was like a war room. It was like
Speaker 10: a campaign office. And in the campaign office, everybody they
Speaker 10: were on phones and mimiograph machines and doing press releases.
Speaker 10: And everybody looks up and Patrick says, hey, how's everybody doing.
Speaker 10: I just want to introduce you to someone. You know.
Speaker 10: I don't think I ever told you guys that I
Speaker 10: was married with two kids.
Speaker 1: Right as a joke, paging doctor Freud.
Speaker 10: He was so charismatic and magnetic and fun, just fun, light,
Speaker 10: lighthearted and fun, but really deep at the same time.
Speaker 10: That's why he was so acharged, That's why he was
Speaker 10: so magnetic. He didn't take himself seriously. He wasn't egocentric
Speaker 10: and dopey, you know. So he knew who.
Speaker 16: He was and he knew what his life was committed
Speaker 16: to love and joy and mission and passion and being
Speaker 16: fully alive in service.
Speaker 1: They went up to his new office and she told
Speaker 1: him all about her ordeal with Mike. In Texas. Patrick
Speaker 1: had just taken over the chapel for his liturgy extravaganzas,
Speaker 1: and the first one would be this Sunday.
Speaker 10: And he said, why don't you come in to Mass
Speaker 10: on Sunday night? Why don't you come into the liturgy.
Speaker 10: I think you'd really enjoy it. And again I'm thinking
Speaker 10: to myself, really, I was still stuck with this idea
Speaker 10: of more of the old church. I had not been
Speaker 10: introduced to the new Church.
Speaker 1: Like most adults who grew up Catholic, Mary Anne had
Speaker 1: long since lapsed and felt perfectly fine being church free,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Yet the following Sunday night, she
Speaker 1: found herself putting Christy and Jojo down to sleep, getting
Speaker 1: her neighbor to watch them, and slipping down to the
Speaker 1: Red Line. She got off the train at Park Street
Speaker 1: and walked up the hill towards the illuminated gold dome
Speaker 1: of the State House, approaching the Poula Center's iconic pair
Speaker 1: of red double doors.
Speaker 10: So I get to the Paula Center and it is
Speaker 10: rocking the house. I couldn't believe it. It was so
Speaker 10: crowded that I had to go upstairs to the balcony
Speaker 10: because there were no seats left. People were hanging from
Speaker 10: the brekofters. And I went upstairs. I remember had on
Speaker 10: a red dress. I remember that, I actually remember the
Speaker 10: red dress. And I went upstairs and I stood by
Speaker 10: the banister.
Speaker 1: Mary Anne wound up front row center in the standing
Speaker 1: room only balcony, staring right down at the altar.
Speaker 9: The music, music really stirs to soul, really.
Speaker 10: In the body back.
Speaker 19: And they had a group of people that were playing
Speaker 19: guitars and.
Speaker 1: Singing, Christine Trufont and Antobin, enthusiastic members of the Paula
Speaker 1: Center Gang.
Speaker 10: You couldn't help it. Again, the music was very temporary.
Speaker 1: Music was so lively, and then.
Speaker 10: It began, do the right thing, do the.
Speaker 1: Do it all the time, do it all the time,
Speaker 1: make yourself right.
Speaker 10: Never mind, don't you know you're not the only one suffering.
Speaker 3: It was such a joyful place.
Speaker 9: There was something greater going on there in the sense
Speaker 9: that it was more equal. The priest wasn't held any
Speaker 9: higher than the people, and it was a new concept.
Speaker 10: Do the right thing, do the right thing, do it
Speaker 10: all the time, do it all the time. Make yourself right.
Speaker 10: Never mind, don't you do you that the only.
Speaker 19: Suffer I'll see you up looking and wandering so diligent,
Speaker 19: crossing the teasers over.
Speaker 13: One ANLEI is this is what they.
Speaker 18: Really let They could mean a rock, then we could
Speaker 18: be the pay minsense.
Speaker 10: There's a point in the mass when you're doing the
Speaker 10: consecration you actually hold up the chalice and the host.
Speaker 10: And Patrick said there was a moment when he held
Speaker 10: it up and he saw that I was up in
Speaker 10: the balcony, and he said, oh great, she came.
Speaker 14: We'll make it all right.
Speaker 10: It'll call around, I'll mention it.
Speaker 13: They say it's nothing, but that in reality they ca
Speaker 13: it someone make it, someone take it day.
Speaker 1: Marianne was thunderstruck by her experience that night and decided
Speaker 1: she was all in.
Speaker 10: Because I knew I wanted to be a part of this.
Speaker 10: I just wasn't sure how you did it, so I
Speaker 10: was just going to keep.
Speaker 20: Showing up, doing time.
Speaker 8: Naked in.
Speaker 1: Her only problem was a growing crush on a Catholic priest.
Speaker 1: Patrick was in the throes of having just taken over
Speaker 1: the entire police center. He didn't need this crush either.
Speaker 1: He and Floyd were pulling in massive donations at their
Speaker 1: weekly extravaganzas. But they had started so many programs in
Speaker 1: their basement and had so many huge ideas for the
Speaker 1: place that they had ballooned the budget.
Speaker 6: But that required some money. Floyd, well, there's no money.
Speaker 1: Patrick and Floyd had harnessed the energies of the young
Speaker 1: and built a bonafide army of do gooding hell raisers.
Speaker 1: So they took this opportunity to make a statement. And
Speaker 1: that's when Patrick put together a plan that literally, and
Speaker 1: I mean this changed the world.
Speaker 10: The following Sunday was the first Walk for Hunger.
Speaker 1: It was at this moment that Patrick started the Walk
Speaker 1: for Hunger. This was the project all those people in
Speaker 1: Patrick's office were working on when Marianne walked in.
Speaker 14: The thing about it was it was a very ingenious idea.
Speaker 1: This is Bob Cannaane from the Milwaukee fourteen.
Speaker 14: Where Patrick genius saw at first in a sense was
Speaker 14: that people like to do things in order to raise
Speaker 14: money for good causes, like rather than just going door
Speaker 14: to door or asking somebody to donate over TV or
Speaker 14: something like that, there was an action.
Speaker 1: Perform Stuck for money, but surrounded by youthful energy. Patrick
Speaker 1: started the first pledge walk in the United.
Speaker 14: States, where the people raising the money feel good about it,
Speaker 14: and the people giving the money feel good about it
Speaker 14: because you walk twenty mile, that's great, y'all. I'll give
Speaker 14: you so much a mile, and things like that. So
Speaker 14: it was participation that was really.
Speaker 1: Key, and his simple idea quickly went viral. These days,
Speaker 1: there are hundreds of walks and runs and marches for
Speaker 1: charity throughout the United States, and from Boston, you know
Speaker 1: all about the Walk for Hunger. This year will be
Speaker 1: the fifty fifth walk. It's a long standing testament to
Speaker 1: the better angels of Bostonians and one of our most
Speaker 1: important rites of spring. But here's the thing to know
Speaker 1: about Patrick that mary Anne was now learning. Sure, he
Speaker 1: was a pied piper who could muster the enthusiasm of
Speaker 1: thousands of people, but he was also perpetually in over
Speaker 1: his head, so a central component of all of his
Speaker 1: crazy schemes was always a certain merry confusion. In her
Speaker 1: first week, Marianne saw no end of people scarring around,
Speaker 1: putting out fires and laughing the entire time Patrick had
Speaker 1: asked one volunteer to plan the route, but Boston is
Speaker 1: a spaghetti bowl of one way streets.
Speaker 19: It seemed like way more than twenty miles. Tobin to me,
Speaker 19: it felt like this must be one hundred and miles,
Speaker 19: And in fact, somebody did go out and measure it
Speaker 19: afterwards and it was more like thirty.
Speaker 1: But even in the midst of what anyone else would
Speaker 1: call a hellish logistical nightmare, Patrick infused the entire Paula
Speaker 1: Center community with a certain irrepressibility, even in inclement weather.
Speaker 10: And it poured rain. It poured rain. I can't even
Speaker 10: tell you. It never stopped raining from early morning till
Speaker 10: late night. It just poured all day long.
Speaker 19: It was like a northeaster and it was awful, awful,
Speaker 19: but we did it and we laughed.
Speaker 10: It was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: This is brutal.
Speaker 1: And this was a Sunday, which means that night Patrick
Speaker 1: had a mask to celebrate again.
Speaker 10: I got the kids to bed, I leaned babysat, and
Speaker 10: I got in there by the eight o'clock mass. They
Speaker 10: were just straggling in. They were just straggling in still
Speaker 10: at eight o'clock at night, because they had walked twenty
Speaker 10: five miles and it had been pouring rain that had
Speaker 10: to stop. And Patrick came in drenched, drenched, drenched with
Speaker 10: slickers and unbelievable it was. But it was such a
Speaker 10: feat And I don't know how many people walked at
Speaker 10: that first I think maybe a couple thousand people.
Speaker 1: As he began the liturgy that night, he saw that
Speaker 1: Marianne returned and their eyes met.
Speaker 10: And as I got to know more of what was
Speaker 10: happening at the center in terms of activism, and as
Speaker 10: I got to know the people more, it was I
Speaker 10: just felt like I had died and gone to heaven.
Speaker 10: I couldn't believe that this community was there for the
Speaker 10: taking to be part of.
Speaker 1: After the leturgy, Patrick invited Marianne to join the gang
Speaker 1: out for dinner.
Speaker 10: Patrick came over and introduced me to some people and
Speaker 10: all that, and said, folks are going down to the
Speaker 10: New Deal for pizza, so would you like to join us?
Speaker 10: That's all I was like, okay, So I asked somebody
Speaker 10: where the New Deal was, but I didn't really know anybody.
Speaker 10: So I sort of walked down to the New Deal
Speaker 10: by myself. The whole gang kind of arrived and I
Speaker 10: was sitting beside me and Tobin, who I think I
Speaker 10: had just met. Patrick came in and he sat down
Speaker 10: over here and he started chatting, and we were all
Speaker 10: talking and everybody's all hanging around and Ann Tobin told
Speaker 10: me later that she thought to herself, if he ever
Speaker 10: leaves the priesthood, this is who he'll leave it for.
Speaker 1: After pizza and beer at the New Deal, Patrick didn't
Speaker 1: want this new person to get away, so he offered
Speaker 1: Marianne a ride home Sunday nights.
Speaker 10: This habit started that Patrick would offer to drive me
Speaker 10: home because I lived in Dorchester and I would be
Speaker 10: walking from the train station by myself. He'd say, how
Speaker 10: are you getting home? And I would say I'm taking
Speaker 10: the subway and he'd say, no, no, I'll give you a ride.
Speaker 10: So sort of like that, and that started probably the
Speaker 10: very first night.
Speaker 1: Despite their romantic tension, they quickly became very close friends.
Speaker 1: Marianne found more reasons to get involved in the Paula Center.
Speaker 1: She brought her kids, she sat on committees, and Patrick
Speaker 1: would drive her home. And as a Bostonian, I can
Speaker 1: tell you that trip is a schlep. But as their
Speaker 1: chemistry grew, it might have started getting a little too
Speaker 1: close for Patrick's comfort, so he bought himself some insurance.
Speaker 10: So one Sunday night, Patrick said, I have an idea.
Speaker 10: This is really good friend of mine. She's actually in
Speaker 10: the singing group. She's in New Jersey right now taking
Speaker 10: care of her father, but she's coming back to Boston.
Speaker 10: She actually just quit school and she's looking for a
Speaker 10: place to live. And I was wondering, if you want
Speaker 10: to put her up till she can find a place
Speaker 10: and she could help you out with the rent, and
Speaker 10: what do you think? And I said, oh, sure, because
Speaker 10: again I don't know in those days, you were like, right, yeah,
Speaker 10: what's the next thing? Of course you have no second
Speaker 10: thoughts about it.
Speaker 1: Sarah Toci would eventually stand next to mary Anne and
Speaker 1: Paul in the Brighams, trying to smuggle Paul into the
Speaker 1: Paula Center for his sanctuary.
Speaker 15: I remember them talking and laughing all the time.
Speaker 1: Chrissy again, mary Anne's daughter, who was just turning three
Speaker 1: when Sarah moved in.
Speaker 15: And Sarah I remember as having like long wavy hair
Speaker 15: and a beautiful singing voice, and she seemed sad to me,
Speaker 15: like there's a melancholy about her.
Speaker 20: I am a loner. I always have been, and I'm
Speaker 20: just the brink of giving it all away.
Speaker 1: Sarah left behind a mountain of stenopads and journals. I
Speaker 1: found them in the same box I found Father X's notebook.
Speaker 20: A loner, it's hard to accept, hard to deal with
Speaker 20: a happy sad night. We're so happy, You're happy, so
Speaker 20: happy you found a home.
Speaker 15: But also she was screaming, laughing all the time. She
Speaker 15: felt like family.
Speaker 10: We just rolled.
Speaker 15: Along with my mom's accumulation of her family. So when
Speaker 15: she pulled someone into the orbit, it just was It
Speaker 15: just was like, Oh, this is Sarah. Sarah lives with us.
Speaker 1: Reading her notes brings you right back to the emotional
Speaker 1: intensity of your twenties, the thrill of a new friendship,
Speaker 1: the daily epiphanies about your purpose in the world, the
Speaker 1: possibility of outrunning your weaknesses.
Speaker 20: To believe in God is to get high on love
Speaker 20: enough to look down on your loneliness and forget it forever.
Speaker 20: Right mary Anne Big tears.
Speaker 2: Late talk.
Speaker 10: We just we were the most incredible match.
Speaker 1: At long last. Mary Anne had found her people.
Speaker 10: Then we had each other to engage with and make
Speaker 10: sense of the world. For everything I could get my
Speaker 10: hands on to understand the world, to understand myself, to
Speaker 10: understand my relationship with God, with the divine, just to
Speaker 10: know and to understand.
Speaker 6: And so was she.
Speaker 10: I was hanging up one of her posters in the
Speaker 10: living room bedroom slash and I turned around to her
Speaker 10: and I said, do you think you're moving in? And
Speaker 10: she said, I think I'm moving in? And that was that.
Speaker 1: And then the two of them became inseparable.
Speaker 10: With Patrick, I mean he would be driving the two
Speaker 10: of us home on Sunday nights. From the center right,
Speaker 10: Patrick and Sarah and I became something of a trio.
Speaker 20: Hey, Patrick, we hate to finish what we've just begun
Speaker 20: with you. We still haven't let go of your hands,
Speaker 20: have we? Are we committed to each other? Are we
Speaker 20: three committed to each other?
Speaker 1: All that fall, Mary, Anne, Patrick, and Sarah became the
Speaker 1: Three Musketeers. The loneliness that had chased her since her
Speaker 1: mother died was finally draining away. She knew that this place,
Speaker 1: packed with singing, laughing people, was a place that could
Speaker 1: change everything from the inside. In Philadelphia, outside agitators, Anne
Speaker 1: and Paul were waiting in the bowels of a brutalist
Speaker 1: courthouse to be arraigned for a draft board raid gone
Speaker 1: horribly wrong. Also in attendance was a teenager they knew
Speaker 1: named Cookie.
Speaker 10: So I go down there, I meet the lawyer.
Speaker 1: Cookie Ridolfi had been on the support team of the
Speaker 1: Philly raid and brought sandwiches to the hiding raiders the
Speaker 1: afternoon of the ill fated night. Concerned for Anne and Paul,
Speaker 1: she came down to the arraignment on her own and
Speaker 1: found a place to sit in the gallery next to
Speaker 1: their lawyer. Soon Paul and Anne were brought in by
Speaker 1: the authorities.
Speaker 3: When we went to temp arragnment, the place was crowded
Speaker 3: with nuns and priests and like Roman calls and habits
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 1: Anne's lawyer noticed and asked Anne if they were friends of.
Speaker 3: Hers, and so I said, well, not personally no, but
Speaker 3: I think you'd be here for the cause. And he
Speaker 3: said tell them to move up, because the judge is
Speaker 3: a daily.
Speaker 1: Communicant, meaning, by some stroke of luck, the judge was
Speaker 1: a super Catholic that went to Mass every single morning.
Speaker 1: Paul decided this was his opening to raise hell about
Speaker 1: the beating he took in the police fan.
Speaker 4: I brought it up at the hearing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the FED who had beat him up was sitting
Speaker 1: in the gallery.
Speaker 4: He came to testify it, but he was there with
Speaker 4: his same shoes on, wingtip shoes, and nobody in the
Speaker 4: peace community in Philadelphia could believe it because he was
Speaker 4: in charge of the disobedient squad and they had always
Speaker 4: gotten along with him.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 1: As Paul blew the cover of this two faced goon
Speaker 1: from Philly's law enforcement, the mood in the gallery became
Speaker 1: rather tense. Cookie watching from the gallery was the only
Speaker 1: person from the East Coast Conspiracy to Save Lives who
Speaker 1: had come to the arraignment. At this point, one of
Speaker 1: the movement lawyers turned to her and said, I.
Speaker 13: Think you should leave, And I said why, you know, really?
Speaker 13: He goes yeah, because he said, there's all these manner
Speaker 13: right here FBI agents. They're going to be very interested
Speaker 13: in you. I think you should just quietly leave the
Speaker 13: room and go away, go someplace else.
Speaker 1: She looked around and noticed the courtroom was full of
Speaker 1: wing tips.
Speaker 13: So I get up to go out, and every eye
Speaker 13: is on me. Every man in that room, white man
Speaker 13: in a suit, wingtips. Their eyes are on me. As
Speaker 13: I walk out and I get to the front of
Speaker 13: the building, and I look to my right and there's
Speaker 13: a whole line of agents. They're leaning against the wall
Speaker 13: and they're watching me every step. So I think to myself,
Speaker 13: I can't go back to Susquehanna because they'll follow me.
Speaker 1: Susquehanna was the street in Philly's Fishtown section where the
Speaker 1: raiders had their safe house. That's where everyone was. That's
Speaker 1: where she needed to go. But she didn't want to
Speaker 1: lead the FBI right to the door, so she began hitchhiking,
Speaker 1: criss crossing Philadelphia in the hopes of shaking off any
Speaker 1: possible tail. Finally, she felt it was safe and headed
Speaker 1: back to Susquehanna.
Speaker 13: And I turn around to open the door to get
Speaker 13: out of the car, and I'm right in front of
Speaker 13: the house, and I see the front door of the
Speaker 13: house open. I see FBI agents standing on the steps
Speaker 13: of the house, and I realize that this is like
Speaker 13: a crime scene.
Speaker 1: The FEDS had already found Susquehanna. Cookie was walking into
Speaker 1: a trap.
Speaker 13: Get out of the car right in front of the house.
Speaker 13: And then I pretend I don't know the house, and
Speaker 13: I make a right turn and I walked down the street,
Speaker 13: and I can tell this guy following me. And then
Speaker 13: on that street corner was a little working class neighborhood
Speaker 13: deli and I went in there and I didn't know
Speaker 13: what to do. I was terrified, and I stood behind
Speaker 13: a coke machine, and then the agent came walking in,
Speaker 13: took me by the hand, and I walked out with him.
Speaker 1: The agent walked Cookie back down Susquehanna and brought her
Speaker 1: into the house. The FBI were turning the place upside down.
Speaker 1: Most of the raiders were safely at a farm half
Speaker 1: an hour away. Some were stuck behind John Peter Grady,
Speaker 1: the mastermind of the whole raid, was pacing on the
Speaker 1: phone with their lawyer. Cookie walked up to another raider
Speaker 1: who was sitting in the living room reading a book,
Speaker 1: and noticed the book in his hands was upside down.
Speaker 1: Everyone was shitting bricks. So she resigned herself to her fate,
Speaker 1: and she sat at the dining room table.
Speaker 13: And I'm watching them go through the trash and it's
Speaker 13: like last night's dinner's garbage, and they're pulling out vegetable skins,
Speaker 13: and it's just disgusting, going through piece by piece looking
Speaker 13: for evidence.
Speaker 1: Luckily, overnight one of the raiders had removed from the
Speaker 1: Susquehanna House all the files from the draft board raid
Speaker 1: and put them in the getaway van. So theoretically the
Speaker 1: Feds weren't going to find anything until.
Speaker 13: The plan was that once everybody got out of the
Speaker 13: draft boards, there was a plan to take everybody to
Speaker 13: a farm. That's where they would stay and they would
Speaker 13: go through the files. So I'm sitting there and watching
Speaker 13: this guy go through the trash and they're searching everywhere.
Speaker 13: The geworsi are being pulled out, going through boxes, and
Speaker 13: right in front of me, I tell you, it must
Speaker 13: have been maybe two feet in front of me on
Speaker 13: the table is a little slip of paper with the
Speaker 13: address of the farm. I'm looking at them going through
Speaker 13: the trash, and I'm looking at the piece of paper
Speaker 13: and I'm thinking, oh my god. So I reach over
Speaker 13: and I get the little piece of paper. I put
Speaker 13: it in my hand and I get up and I
Speaker 13: go to the bathroom. As soon as I locked the door,
Speaker 13: one of the agents says, who let her go into
Speaker 13: the bathroom? She can't be in there. Yeah, And they're
Speaker 13: right now, bang it bang banga bed And I just
Speaker 13: stayed in there tearing up the address to little tiny pieces,
Speaker 13: putting it in a toilet, and I flushed the toilet,
Speaker 13: and I left the room and went back outside. That
Speaker 13: was the only contact for the farm, so they never
Speaker 13: got there. And if had they gotten there, there was
Speaker 13: two actions that night. All the other people from the
Speaker 13: other action were there with their files.
Speaker 1: Soon the police wagons arrived. They led everyone out in
Speaker 1: handcuffs except for Cookie, so.
Speaker 13: They didn't arrest me, which almost was more punishment because
Speaker 13: there I was nineteen years old. The FBI just arrested
Speaker 13: my good friends. I mean FBI, I mean I was
Speaker 13: nuns were just kind of something, but FBI agents were
Speaker 13: a big deal to me.
Speaker 1: Cookie had no idea what to do.
Speaker 13: I walked to the subway, I got in the subway,
Speaker 13: I went home to my mother, and I am just
Speaker 13: frozen in terror.
Speaker 1: The East Coast conspiracy raiders were doing everything they could
Speaker 1: to sabotage the human costs of an immoral war, and
Speaker 1: it was clear now to Cookie that that sabotage would
Speaker 1: have a cost of its own.
Speaker 13: But then now I get a phone call at about
Speaker 13: six or seven at night.
Speaker 10: It's John Grady.
Speaker 13: Hey, Cookie, come on, gone down to Ralphs.
Speaker 10: We're having dinner.
Speaker 1: What so?
Speaker 6: Ralphs is an.
Speaker 10: Italian restaurant in my neighborhood.
Speaker 13: I quickly got I don't know how I got there,
Speaker 13: but I got myself to the restaurant. I walk in
Speaker 13: and they're all there, everybody. They had been released from
Speaker 13: wherever they were taken, and they were having basically a part.
Speaker 1: Nobody talks, everybody walks. Even Anne and Paul were sitting there.
Speaker 1: The judge, the Daily Communicant, had thrown out their case and.
Speaker 3: He said, there is no evidence of miss Walsh breaking
Speaker 3: an enter. She was in a public restroom in a
Speaker 3: public building, and there are no connections between that and
Speaker 3: across the hall. I got off Scott free, and Paul
Speaker 3: the saying.
Speaker 1: Anne, Paul, Cookie and all the rest were free to
Speaker 1: raid another day and to push their luck yet further.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia had made it feel like, perhaps, for a moment,
Speaker 1: they might be winning and they could start taking some
Speaker 1: bigger risks. Divine Intervention is a production of iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 1: It's produced by Wonder Media Network and it was created
Speaker 1: and written by Me Your Host Brendan Patrick Hughes. Exception
Speaker 1: only talented producers are Carmen Borca Correo, Abby Delk, Paloma Moreno, Jimenez,
Speaker 1: Grace Lynch, and myself. Our editor is the relentlessly capable
Speaker 1: Grace Lynch. Scoring production from Hannah Bottom for Wonder Media Network.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Emily Rudder and Jenny Kaplan for
Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producer is Christina Everett. Special thanks
Speaker 1: to Tim Perry from one of my favorite bands, Ages
Speaker 1: and Ages, who allowed us to use their incredible song
Speaker 1: Divisionary Do the Right Thing to represent what liturgies in
Speaker 1: the Poula Center might have sounded like. Our theme and
Speaker 1: end credit music was composed and performed by the Effervescentania
Speaker 1: Donnelly and mastered by Ben Aerns, who is not without
Speaker 1: his own shimmer. The Late Sarah Toosi was voiced by
Speaker 1: Carly Pope, an actor and Canadian National Treasure. Father X
Speaker 1: was voiced by Adam O'Byrne, who is also from Canada.
Speaker 1: This is Brendan Patrick Hughes. Thank you for listening to
Speaker 1: Divine Intervention.