WEBVTT - Chapter 5: The Red Double Doors on Park Street 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.880 Sometimes in life you make an impulsive decision for all 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:09.720 the right reasons justice, dignity, reckless, abandon etc. That immediately 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:14.080 plunges you into the deep end in way over your head. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.440 And when that happens, you tend to examine your life choices. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.920 There I was inside the closet. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.040 We last left Anne Walsh, trapped to two in the 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.560 morning in a roasting utility closet after the raid on 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.440 a Philadelphia draft board had gone horrendously wrong. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.879 Before I knew it, I heard those barking dogs with 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:37.000 a canine squad. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.040 Anne wasn't even supposed to be part of this raid, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.360 but she had filled in at the last minute. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.040 Policeman came was with a drawing gun. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.479 Everyone else had known the escape plan. If they got caught, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.839 they scurried down a certain staircase into the Philadelphia night. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.560 Now she was all alone in the dark in a 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.720 city she didn't know. It must have felt like the 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.640 ass not Michael Collins floating around the dark side of 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.959 the moon, no contact with humanity, while Neil Armstrong traps 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:11.800 across the lunar surface. Anne Walsh was a woman desperately 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.360 in need of a lifeline. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.200 I was taken down to the ground floor, my hands 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.720 behind my back, handcuffed to a chair. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.039 But it was these dogs, like you know, circling me. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.360 So I'm praying, like to Saint Francis of a sissy, 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.160 Oh please love you don't do that. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.960 Now Anne would be arrested, her one fear of disgracing 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.040 her war hero father realized. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.960 And one policeman said, frankly, I'd like to piss all 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:37.360 over you. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.160 Police forces are kind of like hockey teams. You got 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.760 your finesse players, and you got your goons tonight and 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.160 got all the goons. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.520 And that was like so horrified to me that someone 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:50.800 would speak to me in that way. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.440 She's been just over a year away from the convent, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.360 and now she'd likely face years in prison. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.440 And I thought I was done for. I thought I 0:01:59.520 --> 0:01:59.960 was done for. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:05.800 Remember four draft boards now had been discovered ravaged, and 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.040 I was the only suspect. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.000 She was about to have the legal weight of this 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.080 entire action and the broader actions of the whole movement 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:13.600 rained down on her. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.720 I thought I would never see the light of day 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.920 because of all these crimes that had been committed and 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.040 me caught red handed. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.920 Ann was in way over her head, but then Paul 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.680 Cooming rushed onto the scene. 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.480 I was the only carle that went. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.000 Actually, this is like a snowy winter night and this 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.000 is the heart of the man of Paul coombing from 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.960 Dorchester from Saint Leo's. He was maybe nineteen or twenty 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.919 at the time, but he looked twelve. He planted himself 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.480 outside to be found. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.000 I just sat there by the exit door so I 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.680 would not be alone. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:54.520 In her darkest hour. Paul staged himself to be arrested 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.239 along with Anne Walsh. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.520 They police came up and asked me what I was 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.360 doing there, and I said I was waiting for somebody 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.440 to come out of the train terminal. Then they took 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.440 me out of the car and put me in handcuffs 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:06.680 and put me in a Patti wagon. 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.799 They stuck Paul in the back of a police fan 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.000 and then one of the Feds climbed in with him. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.840 He came in and started asking me questions and started 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.040 slapping me around on the face and telling me to 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.840 answer his questions and tell me who else was involved 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.280 and all this, and I just kept saying, please don't 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.079 hit me, Please don't hit me. That's all I had 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.520 ever answered, but I had my head been down like 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.600 this to try to protect myself a little bit, and. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.760 Slapping like an Paul was an idealist, and like many idealists, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.839 he was finding out, to the tune of the Little 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.200 Chin music, what happens when he took a stand for 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.200 justice in an unjust world. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.640 I've memorized the whole patent on his shoes. He had 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:48.880 wingtips shoes. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.640 On wingtips, you'll remember where the trademark dress code of 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.760 FBI agents, as insisted upon by Jay Edgar Hoover. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.880 So I ended up in the cell and I see 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.200 Anne Walls being brought in right next to her the 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.360 cell I was going to be put in. He was 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.600 just so thrilled to see that I was there, that 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.800 somebody else was with her, and he was totally absolutely aloft. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.960 Paul was taking a massive risk. He had already by 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.560 this point, as you may remember from episode one, mailed 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.560 his draft card back to the government, and now he 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:28.520 had just put his head in the lion's mouth. I'm 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:33.359 Brendan Patrick Hughes, and this is Divine Intervention, Chapter five. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:57.160 The red double doors on Park Street. While outside agitators 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:02.159 Anne and Paul were awaiting arraignment in the Philadelphia Slammer. Inside, incrementalists, 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.719 Patrick and Floyd were starting to build a bona fide movement. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.080 Young people from all over town were flocking to their 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.159 subterranean headquarters to serve restaurant meals to the poor, to 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.440 study books on liberation theology, and to raucously celebrate their 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:22.080 wild Sunday liturgies. The basement walls were festooned with colorful 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.400 felt banners covered in birds and hearts and forceful phrases 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.440 on love. From the confines of their basement purgatory, Patrick 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.400 and Floyd felt they were finally fulfilling John the twenty 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.120 Third's promise of Vatican two and dragging the most powerful 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.840 religious organization in the world into the twentieth century. They 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.640 wanted desperately to change this old institution into an example 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.279 of what a world changing twentieth century Catholic Church could be. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:53.320 But the problem was the priests upstairs were having none 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:53.640 of it. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.480 Everything was an argument. This is Floyd, it becomes wearing, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.000 it wears on you, let war on me. Over time, he. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:06.040 And Patrick quickly discovered how uncomfortable change truly is. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.960 You know, when you go into the common room where 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.760 people would go perhaps just shortly before supper, maybe you 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.599 have a cocktail, and maybe stop afterwards to watch the 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:20.200 news or something like that, or chat a little bit. Yeah, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.760 I would say that if one or both of us 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.160 came in there, it sort of emptied out. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:32.040 But here's the thing. They were incredibly popular. Hundreds of 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.480 young people were stuffing themselves into their basement on Sundays, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.280 and it was becoming increasingly clear that things were headed 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:45.000 for a showdown. The boys had clearly outgrown their basement, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.720 but with the Cardigan Brigade upstairs blocking their every move, 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.880 they had absolutely no idea what to do. But then 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:59.120 crazy thing, one of those old fellas started wandering downstairs 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.040 to hang out with them. He saw what those crazy 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.840 kids were up to, and he liked it. I won't 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.520 tell you his name because his name was Bob, and 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.960 there are about nineteen other people in this show also 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:16.840 named Bob because Catholics. So this unnamed man from upstairs 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.280 at the Poula Center asked if he could defect from 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.480 the upstairs meanis and join in on their basement shenanigans. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.240 And that was the foothold Jim Carroll that Floyd. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.720 And Patrick were able to stand on as they quickly 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.400 began to change the way things were done into Paula Center. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.840 Patrick and Floyd had made their first alliance, their first 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.960 bona fide work friend, a single casino chip on which 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.680 to build an empire. As noted in Father X's Mysterious. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.480 Notebook, concept of the teen Ministry emerges out of the 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:48.640 needs of the community. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.480 So they named themselves the Team, and together the three 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.960 of them came up with a plan to take over 0:07:55.040 --> 0:08:00.680 the chapel upstairs. They started off, according to Father X, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.600 by attempting to go through the proper. 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.880 Channels a petition with seven hundred signatures from barishioners to 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.239 be allowed to use the chapel. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.240 As ignored, we tried to appeal within the house first 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.800 and couldn't get it. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.760 Pre steupstairs were not about to let these young turks 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.920 have the keys to the company Cadillac, so their only 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.559 recourse was to start punching below the belt. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.040 Patrick and Floyd refused to take collections at the four 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.960 pm and six pm liturgies, the loss of four hundred 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:30.520 and fifty dollars a week for the center. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.240 The Paula Center was in serious debt and Patrick and 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.240 Floyd knew it. When they stopped taking collections at their 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.000 controversial basement liturgies, the place started losing in today money 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:44.440 thousands of dollars a week. But despite Patrick and Floyd 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.880 turning off this money faucet, the brass still wouldn't budge. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:53.560 The crisis point. March eighth, nineteen seventy, the team decided 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.080 that on the following Sunday they will take over chapel 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.079 by imminent domain. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.480 So the boys prepared the community to march up stairs 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.000 and occupy the chapel. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.240 We're told that if we did, they were going to 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:05.800 call it the lade The resident priests. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.600 Why are the New York hierarchy saying that if the 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.760 team is allowed upstairs? They were refused to say any 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:12.360 further mess. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.479 Now the whole place is in an uproar. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.160 So then we had to appeal to Scarsdale. 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.960 Scarsdale is where the Policies have their national headquarters, where 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.280 the Superior General has his office. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.400 Paulists throughout the country are in a state of turmoils 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.920 in regards to the goings on at Park Street. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.360 Now, polists all over the country were gnashing their teeth. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.079 So the heads of the National Order came to Boston 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:36.920 to sort things out. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.400 The council meets with the whole Policy Center. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.160 I can still kind of picture him in that room. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.839 That's Christine Truffant. She was there. She was a local 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.000 college kid who had discovered Patrick and Floyd's basement liturgies 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.880 and volunteered in many of their programs. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.720 He talked to us in the basement of the church, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:54.839 and it was a very crowded meeting. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.520 As I remember, I. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.720 Was horrified and so surprised to realize he was really 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.640 wet his finger and telling us we better get in line. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.040 I just think it was a matter of control. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.600 Never before had the policed hierarchy had to reprimand its 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.520 parishioners for their enthusiasm. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.240 The hierarchy was so scared. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:18.840 What were they afraid of? 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.920 After a presidential tongue lashing for the youngs downstairs, it 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.800 was time for a showdown with the Cardigan brigade upstairs. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.360 That meeting was intense. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.160 All anger and hostility is out in the open for 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.480 the first time. The regulars want the team kicked out. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.720 The house is now in two armed. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.079 Camps, sitting in this deeply uncomfortable face to face confrontation 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.199 with the men upstairs. Patrick and Floyd said fuck it 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.680 and gave the Order president the hard sell. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:53.240 They wanted. First control of the whole apostolic operation, second 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:57.720 financial autonomy, third, two more members for the team, and 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:02.240 fourth reassignment of residence priests to other centers. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:08.200 A stunned silence at their unmitigated gall filled the room. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.880 But here's the thing the President of the Order could 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.120 not deny. Patrick and Floyd were the ones that had 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:19.280 the box office to make the center financially solvent. He 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.000 had no choice but to grant the chapel to the team. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.720 Their gamble worked. Patrick and Floyd, the young turks, the 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.240 fucking new guys who had only arrived the year prior, 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:37.040 suddenly found themselves in charge of the entire goddamn Paulas Center. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.559 May of nineteen seventy and Tobin joined the team. That 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.160 is a revolutionary act. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.120 Tobin was appointed to be a female lay minister, which 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.160 sent shockwaves. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.640 This is really advanced stuff for the time, and I 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.640 know now it probably doesn't seem like a big deal, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:58.520 but to introduce a woman into the mex It's great. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.640 Patrick and Floyd had huge plans. Patrick and Floyd were 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.800 coming down the mountain. Patrick and Floyd were going to 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.959 drag this dusty institution into the twentieth century, whether it 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:21.600 liked it or not. But that, you guys, that is 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.840 the exact moment Marianne walked through the front doors and 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.640 into our story. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.559 He had on a blue button down shirt and a 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:41.760 pair of jeans and loafers and his incredible, fantastic smile, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.400 and he walked in and gave me the hugest grin, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.439 a huge Patrick grin, and. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:54.440 It was this incredible moment of absolutely love at first sight, 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.240 just was boom and then gone, you know, and then of. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.960 Course, I mean, my god, he's a priest. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.120 You've heard from Marianne a lot already, but this is 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.480 where she first enters our story, walking through the Paula 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.840 Center's iconic pair of red double doors, meeting Patrick and 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:16.040 falling in love on the spot with a Roman Catholic priest. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.040 But if you knew anything about Marianne's life up until 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.800 this point, you would know this was basically the exact 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.920 opposite of what was likely to happen in this scenario. 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.840 Marianne had been to Hell and back and didn't have 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.160 room in her life for some infatuation with an unavailable man. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.360 Marianne grew up in Milton, which is next to Dorchester. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.320 Her mother died of stomach cancer when she was ten 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:44.920 years old. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.559 My father comes in one morning, it was about five 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.640 o'clock or something, and wakes me up to say, mummy's 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.760 very sick, but did you have to get up? And 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:05.160 I'm sitting there, and father Carlin opens the front door, like. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.480 With this huge swish. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:12.280 The door just slams open, and he takes. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.000 The stairs two at a time or three at a time, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.840 and races upstairs. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.200 A Catholic priest was the harbinger of her mother's death. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.400 Like I was in absolute denial about what was going 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.120 on until I saw him do that. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:32.160 After that, Marianne entered a period of deep loneliness. Her father, 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.120 a traveling salesman, then hastily married his manicurist, who was 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:43.440 vindictive and strange and permanently inebriated. This made Marianne a 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.920 bit of a Cinderella, and when she graduated high school, 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.720 she was determined to escape the cruelty of her neglectful 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.800 father and wicked stepmother and get the living hell out 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:59.960 of Milton, Massachusetts, and lucky for her. The US go 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.360 government was in the middle of a program it called 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:03.920 the War on Poverty. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:11.280 JFK founded the Peace Corps and Vista. He created these vehicles, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.200 and then he called this whole generation forward to serve 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.920 that how you could be fully human and fully alive 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.040 is by serving. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.080 Vista was to the domestic United States what the Peace 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.760 Corps was to struggling nations around the world. So Vista 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.880 volunteers were deployed to help alleviate poverty and small struggling 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.440 communities throughout the US. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.960 I'd gone into Vista mainly because I had to get 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.200 out of town. I was like a goody two shoes. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.440 I mean, I could have gone in the convent or 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.280 joined Vista, but I liked to party too much for 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.239 the convent, so better to go to Vista. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.040 Marianne was stationed just about as far from Milton as 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.240 she could be in Laredo, Texas. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.560 Oh my god, I learned so much being with other 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.120 young people, and we were all being educated about the 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.760 world and how it worked and our role in it, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.280 our potential around impacting it and really making a difference. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.400 And we believed that we could and we saw that 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.640 we did. I met Caesar Chavez. I stood on a bridge. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.320 With him, and she experienced a fairly massive political awakening. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.560 I was just so influenced by those times, and it 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.040 grounded me. It sort of took me. That experience took 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.520 me and just planted my feet firmly in a foundation 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.960 that I've never veered from in terms of my work, 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:30.560 the work I want to do in the world. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.520 Marianne stayed in Laredo for two years, organizing, fighting for 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.160 justice and learning what kind of difference you could make 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.680 in the world. But when her tour was over, she 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:45.160 faced the terrifying specter of returning to Boston, the loneliness 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.480 of her life there, and the cruelty of her stepmother. 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.720 So she looked around and hooked up with the only 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.320 other twenty something in Laredo, Texas, a local kid named 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:56.080 Mike Woodward. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:02.600 Mike I think had enormous potential, handsome. He lived on 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.280 the border, which is a culture that makes your head spin. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.400 And quite confoundingly, like so many people of Marianne's generation, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.480 despite being twenty zero, they immediately planned to get married. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.600 Why in the name of God we thought we should 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.919 get married. We didn't know each other. The chemistry was 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:28.239 so overwhelming that we thought let's just do it. It 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.560 wasn't like I knew him. Well, we couldn't have sex. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.800 Otherwise you married the first person you had sex with. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.639 It's so prehistoric. Yeah, And the first person I had 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.760 sex with was Mike Woodward. Therefore I married him. 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.400 It all makes sense now. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.919 He knew just the place for a shotgun wedding. So 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:54.160 Mary Ann, Mike and their Vista pals caravans deep into Mexico. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.200 How we get to this place in Mexico is by 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.840 following the electric wires. Are no roads. It took us 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:06.159 till midnight to get to the place. We knock on 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.520 the Justice of the Piece's door and she comes down 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.879 in her nightgown. We're in a garage and she marries 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:19.000 us in Spanish, which of course I didn't understand, but 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:20.080 I did say see. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.600 Marianne and Mike then tried to settle down. They got 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.560 a little place, and Mike got a job. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.720 Mike had been raised in a really macho culture, and 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:34.000 I have a vivid memory we had been demonstrating for 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.280 higher wages for restaurant workers, and we'd been demonstrating in 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.600 front of this restaurant and hadn't told him I was going, 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.520 so I was on TV footage that night. Mike came 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:50.639 home like enraged and actually pushed me that night, and 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.800 I was pregnant with Chrissy. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.439 The mic she had dated was not showing up in 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.240 her marriage. Mary Anne started to get a sinking feeling 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.280 that perhaps she was in way over her head. The 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.520 loneliness that had chased her since her mother's death caught 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:07.280 back up to her. 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.639 That was the patriarchal culture. You know that you had 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.879 a right to tell your quote unquote wife what she 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:14.320 could do. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.760 I asked my mom, like, why didn't you guys decide 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.440 to have kids so young? 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.440 Crazy Marianne's daughter Chrissy, and she said. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.240 I think because I was so lonely. Chrissy was born 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.359 in August, and then Jojo was born a year and 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:29.920 a half later. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.600 Mike Woodward was one part dreamer and two parts banned 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.639 it with a twist of instability. He moved them around 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.960 every few months in search of a purpose. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:42.280 He was just a. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:47.199 Lost soul and was desperately trying to find himself or 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.240 his place in the world or anything, any kind of 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:55.080 meaning or purpose or whatever. And it wasn't being a 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.240 young husband with a wife and children building a little 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:58.919 life together. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.120 By the time Joe Joe was born, Mike was spending 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:03.920 weeks at a time away from the family. 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.200 I don't even know if maybe he'd been maybe doing 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.040 some drugs at that point, but when he came back, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.200 he was just convinced that we all needed to go 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.920 like a bunch of homesteaders to Taos, New Mexico. 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.960 The last place we lived with him was in a 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.959 thing called that Kiva and Taos. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.639 Akiva is an ancient Pueblo meeting space dug into the 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.879 ground with earthen walls and floors. Mike had found an 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.520 abandoned one, and, being a committed hippie, decided to start 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.960 over with Marianne and the kids as homesteaders. 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.200 It's not really a place that you could have two 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.639 infants because it was so traumatic and shocking to be 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:44.720 living in a mud hut. 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:44.879 Like. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.440 She couldn't put us down having two babies. She could 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:49.080 put Joe down on the ground. You had to get 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:54.560 wood to boil water that kind of stove. Awful, awful, awful. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.440 The next crisis is Jojo got sick. 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.920 Jojo suffered from horrible asthma and had quickly developed pneumonia. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.760 I'm walking down the highway with these two kids from 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.520 the hospital, carrying Joe on my backpack and Chrissy in 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:22.800 the carriage. I was so clear I'm done. 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.760 Then two nights before Christmas. 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.199 So Christmas came. You can imagine how pleasant that was. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.760 Mike showed up all hepped up on goofballs. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.160 Christy was in a crib and Jojo was in another crib. 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.760 I was asleep. He came in in the middle of 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:43.280 the night and I think was on drugs. Joe woke 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:47.000 up and was crying. I went to pick up Jokes. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.480 I know, I had Joe in my arms. Then Chrisy 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.840 woke up and just screamed at the top of her lungs. 0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:00.119 He goes over to Chrissy's crib, and I felt like 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:07.000 Mike was going almost like after her, and I grabbed 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:11.200 his arm to not allow that, and I had Joe 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:14.399 in my arms, and he started to hit me. 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:24.320 I remember being under them or between them, and Mike 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.120 like hitting my mom. 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:35.440 So I'm sort of holding Jojo. I'm bent over to 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:41.360 protect him, and he's hitting me from the back, and. 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.479 She was crouching over Joe. I had Joe in her 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:52.240 arms and I was beneath them somehow, and he took off. 0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:01.160 After Mike left, Marianne was alone with two children who 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:08.080 needed something better than this. The next day, there was 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:09.200 a knock at the door. 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.240 And it's four of Mike's friends from Austin. I was like, 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:19.120 what are you doing here? They found us because they 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.600 had some sort of intuition something was wrong. 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.280 What gave them the intuition, I don't know. 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.040 They didn't know. They were just really worried and thought 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:29.520 something might be really wrong. 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:34.040 Austin to Taos is a twelve hour drive. These old 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.119 friends had all felt their Spidey sense tingling, and driven 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.480 all night on Christmas Eve, I. 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.679 Looked at those guys and, honest to God, it was 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.040 like it was like the Three Kings arrived with their 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:52.000 incense and Mrror and you know whatever. Really it was Christmas. Honestly, 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:56.920 it was a Christmas miracle. I couldn't believe it. They said, 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:58.920 we were just really worried about you, and I said, 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.600 the minute they said I have to get out of here, 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.639 that was it, Brendan, it was divine intervention. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.600 Marianne grabbed a bag of diapers and threw a few 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.320 shirts in a backpack. She loaded the kids into the 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.680 car and left her husband. 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.800 We fled in the middle of the night. It took 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.399 everything for me to get to where it was I 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.800 needed to be to be able to leave, but I 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:25.960 didn't have anywhere to go. 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.000 Her friends brought her back to Austin, where she and 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.199 the kids crashed on their couch for a few weeks, 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.800 listening to Buffalo Springfield's Yellow album and wondering what the 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:39.240 hell she was going to do. Mike found out, of course, 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:43.120 and followed her to Austin, where she told him their 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:44.320 marriage was over. 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.240 First he's pleading with me to come back together again. 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.200 Then he's threatening me. He's going to take the kids. 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.840 He's taking out all the stops. He was basically saying, 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:58.160 I was really wrong and I really want a do over, 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:03.760 and I couldn't do I just couldn't do it. Couldn't 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.640 do it. No, the answer is no. 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:10.560 He came back to the apartment repeatedly, and eventually she 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.800 wouldn't even open the screen door for him. 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.760 There was a night he came to the apartment again, 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.840 pleading again, and I was again saying I can't do 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.760 it and he ran out of the apartment. Just desperate. 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:28.400 Mike was running down Guadalupe Street along the UT Austin campus, 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.080 known to locals as the Drag. He felt his life 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.639 falling apart, and he ran up to the first person 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:35.200 he saw. 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:40.439 He literally ran up to a man in a trench coat, saying, 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.000 I need help. He had no idea who the guy was, 0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:44.840 he just looked official. 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.520 Mike had randomly run up to a Paulish priest named 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.760 Jack Campbell who worked at UT Austin. 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:53.040 So Jack brought him in to the rectory and learned 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.720 about the whole story, and he could see the trouble 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.520 Mike was in mentally. 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.160 So Jack agreed to go talk to Mary. 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.520 And there's Jack Campbell again in a trench coat. He 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.200 looks completely official, and he said, are you Marianne Woodward? 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.960 And I said yes, And he said, my name's Jack Campbell. 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.760 I'm a priest and I have Mike down at the rectory. 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:17.600 Can I come in? And I said sure. 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.679 Turns out father Jack was from Boston, just like Marianne. 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.000 It only took one conversation for him to see that 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.239 Marianne did not belong in a marriage with Mike. And 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:33.639 she needed to leave Texas. So over the next few weeks, 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.359 Jack worked with Mike and mary Anne. They reached an 0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.800 agreement that Mike would seek medical treatment and mari Anne 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:45.960 could return home to Boston. Then, in January of nineteen seventy, 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.560 Jack drove mary Anne and the two kids to the airport, 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.440 and while they stood there at the gate, Jack gave 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.160 Marianne something he'd brought for her. 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:59.520 He had written on his ordination card, which was I remember, 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.040 I say, I might must still have the Ordination card. 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.119 I'm sure I do. I'm sure I do. In a box. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.280 The ordination card was a quote from Tayar de Chardanne 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:08.800 on the front. 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.679 Tahar de Chardin was a Catholic mystic and let me 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.200 tell you, and I say, this is basically an atheist. 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:16.040 His writing is the shit. 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:20.000 He handed me the card and he said, as he's 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.720 handing me the card, I want you to look up 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.560 this guy. He's my best friend in the world. You're 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.960 really gonna love him. He's terrific. His name's on the 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:31.760 back of the card. 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.000 Father Jack had given mary Anne Patrick's number at the 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:36.080 Paula Center. 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.919 And then he said, and don't ever be afraid to 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.760 fall in love again, And that was the last thing 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:49.840 he said to me before I got on the plane. 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.280 Mary Anne, at twenty three, flew home to Boston with 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.359 her two tiny children. Jojo was nine months Chrissy was two, 0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.760 and she moved into an apartment on flo Florida Street 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:01.680 in Dorchester. 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:07.240 I was convinced that there was quicksand on Florida Street 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.840 because Florida. 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:14.919 I had two kids and not a nickel, nothing, and 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.840 it was obvious I would have to go on welfare. 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:18.560 I had no other option at that point. 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.520 She met a caseworker, barely got her expenses covered, and 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:27.879 settled into her new life in Dorchester. While she was unpacking, 0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.600 she came across the card father Jack had given her 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:31.640 in Texas. 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:37.120 I decided I would call Jack's friend Patrick. I don't 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.360 know why exactly, but I decided I would call. 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.520 But when she reached for the phone, something strange happened. 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.640 When I sat down, I will never forget it. I 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.800 put my hand on the receiver and I thought, this 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:52.760 is one of the most important phone calls I'll ever 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.800 make in my life. And then I proceeded to dial the. 0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:01.080 Number, brushing off that strange premonition. She diediled seven digits, 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.480 and she and Patrick had a brief chat where he 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.680 invited her to come down to the Paula Center sometime, and. 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.760 I hung up. And I also then remember thinking I'm 0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.120 not going to go to the Pall Center. I mean, 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.720 you know, I made the call because in some ways 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.160 I felt almost obligated to Jack to make the call, 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.560 and because I just made the call. But it wasn't 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.160 as if I wanted to talk to a priest for 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.520 sure about I don't know what God has put together, 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:29.840 Let no man put us under. 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:34.040 Say that box checked. With a new chapter of life 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.120 to begin, she forgot all about the Paula Center and 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.160 began to meet other tenants in the building. 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.760 We all had kids about the same age, and everybody 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.280 used to babysit for everybody else. 0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.280 She was determined to continue the political work she started 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:47.120 in Vista. 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.920 So I started doing welfare rights and we did some 0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:50.880 prison stuff. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.960 But then something horrifying happened on a campus in Ohio 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.800 that would indirectly change the entire course of her life. 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:04.600 The first week of May of nineteen seventy was the 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:09.640 invasion of Cambodia, and it was the murders at Kent State. 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.880 You earlier asked what was the pivotal moment, Jim Carroll, 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:19.440 when young people began to understand that they were standing 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.800 against something broad in the culture. And I've always thought 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.560 that the pivotal moment was Kent State. 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.840 Mixon, violating the promise he had made not to extend 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:34.360 the Vietnam War, extended it by bombing Cambodia. 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.200 Howard Zinn At Kent. 0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:40.400 State University, huge number of students got it on the 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.200 campus lawn. The governor called out the National Guard. 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.560 And the National Guard shot and killed four students. 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.160 By then, it was well known that the government was 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.840 capable of waging any immoral war ten thousand miles away. 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.640 But at Kent stated began to feel like the government 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.640 would turn its guns against young people. 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.000 It was and there were so many moments during that 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:11.600 time that were so chilling and so devastating about what 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:16.240 was what, my god, what is going on in this world? 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.560 How can this be happening? 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.800 Despite the horrifying fact that the government was now deliberately 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.680 killing protesters, Marianne felt she had a duty to voice 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:28.120 her dissent. 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.600 I had heard or read in the Globe that there 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.800 was going to be a demonstration on the Boston Common, 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.360 and so I packed up the kids, Joe on the 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.840 backpack and Christian a carriage, and we walked to Ashmun 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:45.360 station and go to Park Street and go to the demonstration. 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.920 She and the kids marched and sang with protesters all afternoon, 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.960 and when the demonstration was over, they were walking down 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.520 Park Street back to the T station when she saw 0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.280 two sets of red double doors across the street. 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.880 So I I said, oh my god, there's the pausitor. 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.640 I should go say hello to Jack's friend. I should 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.240 go over and say hello to Patrick. And I walk 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.400 into the building. Just walking into the building, there was. 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.320 A reception area and you could feel the aliveness of 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.880 the place the minute you walked into it. And Pat Downing, 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.120 who later became a good friend of mine, was sitting 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:27.880 at the reception area, and she yells into the intercom system, Patrick, 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.280 someone's here to see you. I waited a few minutes 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.360 and I'm just sort of standing around with the two kids, 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:40.000 and Patrick walked in. And I was anticipating that a 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:40.800 priest would. 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:44.520 Walk in, but Patrick, always in a city's was not 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.720 at all what one picture is when one thinks of 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:47.920 a Catholic priest. 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:54.400 And it was this incredible moment of absolutely love at 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:54.880 first sight. 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.240 They each quickly tried to brush off what happen and 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:03.440 when they locked eyes and said a friendly hello. He 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.160 had moved his office upstairs from the basement, and he 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.440 took Marianne and the kids into one of the conference 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.800 rooms where a bunch of volunteers were working on big projects. 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:13.520 And it was like a war room. It was like 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:18.000 a campaign office. And in the campaign office, everybody they 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:22.400 were on phones and mimiograph machines and doing press releases. 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:26.280 And everybody looks up and Patrick says, hey, how's everybody doing. 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.160 I just want to introduce you to someone. You know. 0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.720 I don't think I ever told you guys that I 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:31.960 was married with two kids. 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.160 Right as a joke, paging doctor Freud. 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:45.080 He was so charismatic and magnetic and fun, just fun, light, 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.840 lighthearted and fun, but really deep at the same time. 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.000 That's why he was so acharged, That's why he was 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:58.640 so magnetic. He didn't take himself seriously. He wasn't egocentric 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:00.960 and dopey, you know. So he knew who. 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.760 He was and he knew what his life was committed 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:11.120 to love and joy and mission and passion and being 0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.000 fully alive in service. 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.160 They went up to his new office and she told 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:19.040 him all about her ordeal with Mike. In Texas. Patrick 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.280 had just taken over the chapel for his liturgy extravaganzas, 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.880 and the first one would be this Sunday. 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.920 And he said, why don't you come in to Mass 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.920 on Sunday night? Why don't you come into the liturgy. 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.239 I think you'd really enjoy it. And again I'm thinking 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.760 to myself, really, I was still stuck with this idea 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.399 of more of the old church. I had not been 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.560 introduced to the new Church. 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.719 Like most adults who grew up Catholic, Mary Anne had 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:48.400 long since lapsed and felt perfectly fine being church free, 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:53.840 thank you very much. Yet the following Sunday night, she 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.000 found herself putting Christy and Jojo down to sleep, getting 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.440 her neighbor to watch them, and slipping down to the 0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.680 Red Line. She got off the train at Park Street 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.720 and walked up the hill towards the illuminated gold dome 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.319 of the State House, approaching the Poula Center's iconic pair 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:10.560 of red double doors. 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.080 So I get to the Paula Center and it is 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:22.000 rocking the house. I couldn't believe it. It was so 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.600 crowded that I had to go upstairs to the balcony 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.839 because there were no seats left. People were hanging from 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:32.719 the brekofters. And I went upstairs. I remember had on 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.640 a red dress. I remember that, I actually remember the 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.799 red dress. And I went upstairs and I stood by 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:39.360 the banister. 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.040 Mary Anne wound up front row center in the standing 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.920 room only balcony, staring right down at the altar. 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.520 The music, music really stirs to soul, really. 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:49.520 In the body back. 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.240 And they had a group of people that were playing 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:53.080 guitars and. 0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.880 Singing, Christine Trufont and Antobin, enthusiastic members of the Paula 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:57.600 Center Gang. 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.560 You couldn't help it. Again, the music was very temporary. 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.720 Music was so lively, and then. 0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.440 It began, do the right thing, do the. 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.920 Do it all the time, do it all the time, 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:12.239 make yourself right. 0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:18.359 Never mind, don't you know you're not the only one suffering. 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:20.160 It was such a joyful place. 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.440 There was something greater going on there in the sense 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:28.960 that it was more equal. The priest wasn't held any 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:33.120 higher than the people, and it was a new concept. 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.560 Do the right thing, do the right thing, do it 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:42.120 all the time, do it all the time. Make yourself right. 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:46.640 Never mind, don't you do you that the only. 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:51.400 Suffer I'll see you up looking and wandering so diligent, 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.399 crossing the teasers over. 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.440 One ANLEI is this is what they. 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.560 Really let They could mean a rock, then we could 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:02.960 be the pay minsense. 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.759 There's a point in the mass when you're doing the 0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:10.160 consecration you actually hold up the chalice and the host. 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.640 And Patrick said there was a moment when he held 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:14.960 it up and he saw that I was up in 0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.759 the balcony, and he said, oh great, she came. 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.239 We'll make it all right. 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:24.960 It'll call around, I'll mention it. 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:29.640 They say it's nothing, but that in reality they ca 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.439 it someone make it, someone take it day. 0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.520 Marianne was thunderstruck by her experience that night and decided 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:51.480 she was all in. 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.400 Because I knew I wanted to be a part of this. 0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.840 I just wasn't sure how you did it, so I 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:56.880 was just going to keep. 0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:02.120 Showing up, doing time. 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:10.840 Naked in. 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.520 Her only problem was a growing crush on a Catholic priest. 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.200 Patrick was in the throes of having just taken over 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.400 the entire police center. He didn't need this crush either. 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.920 He and Floyd were pulling in massive donations at their 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.319 weekly extravaganzas. But they had started so many programs in 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.239 their basement and had so many huge ideas for the 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.640 place that they had ballooned the budget. 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.960 But that required some money. Floyd, well, there's no money. 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.880 Patrick and Floyd had harnessed the energies of the young 0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.080 and built a bonafide army of do gooding hell raisers. 0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:01.000 So they took this opportunity to make a statement. And 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.880 that's when Patrick put together a plan that literally, and 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.800 I mean this changed the world. 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.720 The following Sunday was the first Walk for Hunger. 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.879 It was at this moment that Patrick started the Walk 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.000 for Hunger. This was the project all those people in 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.680 Patrick's office were working on when Marianne walked in. 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.800 The thing about it was it was a very ingenious idea. 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.400 This is Bob Cannaane from the Milwaukee fourteen. 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:32.120 Where Patrick genius saw at first in a sense was 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:36.520 that people like to do things in order to raise 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.600 money for good causes, like rather than just going door 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.160 to door or asking somebody to donate over TV or 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.160 something like that, there was an action. 0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:51.120 Perform Stuck for money, but surrounded by youthful energy. Patrick 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.560 started the first pledge walk in the United. 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.399 States, where the people raising the money feel good about it, 0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.520 and the people giving the money feel good about it 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.080 because you walk twenty mile, that's great, y'all. I'll give 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.600 you so much a mile, and things like that. So 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.680 it was participation that was really. 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:13.120 Key, and his simple idea quickly went viral. These days, 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.880 there are hundreds of walks and runs and marches for 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.960 charity throughout the United States, and from Boston, you know 0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.640 all about the Walk for Hunger. This year will be 0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.960 the fifty fifth walk. It's a long standing testament to 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.600 the better angels of Bostonians and one of our most 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:34.520 important rites of spring. But here's the thing to know 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.719 about Patrick that mary Anne was now learning. Sure, he 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.120 was a pied piper who could muster the enthusiasm of 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:44.279 thousands of people, but he was also perpetually in over 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.200 his head, so a central component of all of his 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:53.520 crazy schemes was always a certain merry confusion. In her 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:57.120 first week, Marianne saw no end of people scarring around, 0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:02.319 putting out fires and laughing the entire time Patrick had 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:05.920 asked one volunteer to plan the route, but Boston is 0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.120 a spaghetti bowl of one way streets. 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.719 It seemed like way more than twenty miles. Tobin to me, 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.600 it felt like this must be one hundred and miles, 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.200 And in fact, somebody did go out and measure it 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.799 afterwards and it was more like thirty. 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.960 But even in the midst of what anyone else would 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:29.200 call a hellish logistical nightmare, Patrick infused the entire Paula 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:34.240 Center community with a certain irrepressibility, even in inclement weather. 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:38.759 And it poured rain. It poured rain. I can't even 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:42.359 tell you. It never stopped raining from early morning till 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.920 late night. It just poured all day long. 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:49.280 It was like a northeaster and it was awful, awful, 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.800 but we did it and we laughed. 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.480 It was like, oh my god. 0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:56.240 This is brutal. 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.560 And this was a Sunday, which means that night Patrick 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.520 had a mask to celebrate again. 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.920 I got the kids to bed, I leaned babysat, and 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:11.279 I got in there by the eight o'clock mass. They 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:15.440 were just straggling in. They were just straggling in still 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.400 at eight o'clock at night, because they had walked twenty 0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.080 five miles and it had been pouring rain that had 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:26.200 to stop. And Patrick came in drenched, drenched, drenched with 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:31.239 slickers and unbelievable it was. But it was such a 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.120 feat And I don't know how many people walked at 0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.160 that first I think maybe a couple thousand people. 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.440 As he began the liturgy that night, he saw that 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.120 Marianne returned and their eyes met. 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.080 And as I got to know more of what was 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.239 happening at the center in terms of activism, and as 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:53.680 I got to know the people more, it was I 0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.439 just felt like I had died and gone to heaven. 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.279 I couldn't believe that this community was there for the 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.480 taking to be part of. 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.720 After the leturgy, Patrick invited Marianne to join the gang 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:08.400 out for dinner. 0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.000 Patrick came over and introduced me to some people and 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.000 all that, and said, folks are going down to the 0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.960 New Deal for pizza, so would you like to join us? 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.760 That's all I was like, okay, So I asked somebody 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.000 where the New Deal was, but I didn't really know anybody. 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:25.640 So I sort of walked down to the New Deal 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.960 by myself. The whole gang kind of arrived and I 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:31.640 was sitting beside me and Tobin, who I think I 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.680 had just met. Patrick came in and he sat down 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.279 over here and he started chatting, and we were all 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:41.120 talking and everybody's all hanging around and Ann Tobin told 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.960 me later that she thought to herself, if he ever 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.399 leaves the priesthood, this is who he'll leave it for. 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.200 After pizza and beer at the New Deal, Patrick didn't 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.680 want this new person to get away, so he offered 0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.440 Marianne a ride home Sunday nights. 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:05.440 This habit started that Patrick would offer to drive me 0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.200 home because I lived in Dorchester and I would be 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.239 walking from the train station by myself. He'd say, how 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:13.960 are you getting home? And I would say I'm taking 0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.520 the subway and he'd say, no, no, I'll give you a ride. 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.759 So sort of like that, and that started probably the 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:21.239 very first night. 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.080 Despite their romantic tension, they quickly became very close friends. 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.880 Marianne found more reasons to get involved in the Paula Center. 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.520 She brought her kids, she sat on committees, and Patrick 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.920 would drive her home. And as a Bostonian, I can 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.680 tell you that trip is a schlep. But as their 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.520 chemistry grew, it might have started getting a little too 0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:46.520 close for Patrick's comfort, so he bought himself some insurance. 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:51.880 So one Sunday night, Patrick said, I have an idea. 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.640 This is really good friend of mine. She's actually in 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.439 the singing group. She's in New Jersey right now taking 0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.240 care of her father, but she's coming back to Boston. 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:03.239 She actually just quit school and she's looking for a 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.799 place to live. And I was wondering, if you want 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.120 to put her up till she can find a place 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.000 and she could help you out with the rent, and 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.800 what do you think? And I said, oh, sure, because 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.000 again I don't know in those days, you were like, right, yeah, 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.920 what's the next thing? Of course you have no second 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:20.560 thoughts about it. 0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.839 Sarah Toci would eventually stand next to mary Anne and 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.680 Paul in the Brighams, trying to smuggle Paul into the 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:30.360 Paula Center for his sanctuary. 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:36.560 I remember them talking and laughing all the time. 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:40.160 Chrissy again, mary Anne's daughter, who was just turning three 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:41.160 when Sarah moved in. 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:46.280 And Sarah I remember as having like long wavy hair 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:52.319 and a beautiful singing voice, and she seemed sad to me, 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.000 like there's a melancholy about her. 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.520 I am a loner. I always have been, and I'm 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.760 just the brink of giving it all away. 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:07.520 Sarah left behind a mountain of stenopads and journals. I 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.480 found them in the same box I found Father X's notebook. 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:15.480 A loner, it's hard to accept, hard to deal with 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:20.040 a happy sad night. We're so happy, You're happy, so 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:21.480 happy you found a home. 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.319 But also she was screaming, laughing all the time. She 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:25.280 felt like family. 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:26.920 We just rolled. 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:31.560 Along with my mom's accumulation of her family. So when 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.880 she pulled someone into the orbit, it just was It 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.399 just was like, Oh, this is Sarah. Sarah lives with us. 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.680 Reading her notes brings you right back to the emotional 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.280 intensity of your twenties, the thrill of a new friendship, 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:48.000 the daily epiphanies about your purpose in the world, the 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.759 possibility of outrunning your weaknesses. 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.160 To believe in God is to get high on love 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.720 enough to look down on your loneliness and forget it forever. 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:03.480 Right mary Anne Big tears. 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:04.319 Late talk. 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:10.440 We just we were the most incredible match. 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.680 At long last. Mary Anne had found her people. 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.080 Then we had each other to engage with and make 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.799 sense of the world. For everything I could get my 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.880 hands on to understand the world, to understand myself, to 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:29.360 understand my relationship with God, with the divine, just to 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:30.680 know and to understand. 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:31.520 And so was she. 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.480 I was hanging up one of her posters in the 0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:42.839 living room bedroom slash and I turned around to her 0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:46.279 and I said, do you think you're moving in? And 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:49.759 she said, I think I'm moving in? And that was that. 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.160 And then the two of them became inseparable. 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.640 With Patrick, I mean he would be driving the two 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:59.439 of us home on Sunday nights. From the center right, 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.880 Patrick and Sarah and I became something of a trio. 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:08.160 Hey, Patrick, we hate to finish what we've just begun 0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.600 with you. We still haven't let go of your hands, 0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:16.640 have we? Are we committed to each other? Are we 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.359 three committed to each other? 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:23.120 All that fall, Mary, Anne, Patrick, and Sarah became the 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:27.719 Three Musketeers. The loneliness that had chased her since her 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:33.240 mother died was finally draining away. She knew that this place, 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:37.319 packed with singing, laughing people, was a place that could 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:49.919 change everything from the inside. In Philadelphia, outside agitators, Anne 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.480 and Paul were waiting in the bowels of a brutalist 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:55.200 courthouse to be arraigned for a draft board raid gone 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:59.880 horribly wrong. Also in attendance was a teenager they knew 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:00.880 named Cookie. 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:02.680 So I go down there, I meet the lawyer. 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.319 Cookie Ridolfi had been on the support team of the 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.480 Philly raid and brought sandwiches to the hiding raiders the 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:12.520 afternoon of the ill fated night. Concerned for Anne and Paul, 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.279 she came down to the arraignment on her own and 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.680 found a place to sit in the gallery next to 0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.879 their lawyer. Soon Paul and Anne were brought in by 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:22.640 the authorities. 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:27.160 When we went to temp arragnment, the place was crowded 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:31.120 with nuns and priests and like Roman calls and habits 0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:31.560 and stuff. 0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.440 Anne's lawyer noticed and asked Anne if they were friends of. 0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:37.080 Hers, and so I said, well, not personally no, but 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:38.759 I think you'd be here for the cause. And he 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.400 said tell them to move up, because the judge is 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:43.120 a daily. 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:47.080 Communicant, meaning, by some stroke of luck, the judge was 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.160 a super Catholic that went to Mass every single morning. 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.520 Paul decided this was his opening to raise hell about 0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.120 the beating he took in the police fan. 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:58.280 I brought it up at the hearing. 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.640 Yeah, the FED who had beat him up was sitting 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:01.400 in the gallery. 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.520 He came to testify it, but he was there with 0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:08.799 his same shoes on, wingtip shoes, and nobody in the 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:11.920 peace community in Philadelphia could believe it because he was 0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:15.880 in charge of the disobedient squad and they had always 0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:16.799 gotten along with him. 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:17.120 Well. 0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.719 As Paul blew the cover of this two faced goon 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.879 from Philly's law enforcement, the mood in the gallery became 0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:27.560 rather tense. Cookie watching from the gallery was the only 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.520 person from the East Coast Conspiracy to Save Lives who 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:34.080 had come to the arraignment. At this point, one of 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.879 the movement lawyers turned to her and said, I. 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:41.920 Think you should leave, And I said why, you know, really? 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.239 He goes yeah, because he said, there's all these manner 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.200 right here FBI agents. They're going to be very interested 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.640 in you. I think you should just quietly leave the 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.960 room and go away, go someplace else. 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.120 She looked around and noticed the courtroom was full of 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:55.840 wing tips. 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.959 So I get up to go out, and every eye 0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:03.680 is on me. Every man in that room, white man 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.239 in a suit, wingtips. Their eyes are on me. As 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.680 I walk out and I get to the front of 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:10.279 the building, and I look to my right and there's 0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:14.080 a whole line of agents. They're leaning against the wall 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.640 and they're watching me every step. So I think to myself, 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.040 I can't go back to Susquehanna because they'll follow me. 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.480 Susquehanna was the street in Philly's Fishtown section where the 0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:27.080 raiders had their safe house. That's where everyone was. That's 0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:29.400 where she needed to go. But she didn't want to 0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:33.360 lead the FBI right to the door, so she began hitchhiking, 0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.520 criss crossing Philadelphia in the hopes of shaking off any 0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:41.160 possible tail. Finally, she felt it was safe and headed 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:42.440 back to Susquehanna. 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.319 And I turn around to open the door to get 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:46.960 out of the car, and I'm right in front of 0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:48.920 the house, and I see the front door of the 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:53.440 house open. I see FBI agents standing on the steps 0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.799 of the house, and I realize that this is like 0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:57.600 a crime scene. 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:01.239 The FEDS had already found Susquehanna. Cookie was walking into 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:01.760 a trap. 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:03.920 Get out of the car right in front of the house. 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.440 And then I pretend I don't know the house, and 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:09.120 I make a right turn and I walked down the street, 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.960 and I can tell this guy following me. And then 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:16.239 on that street corner was a little working class neighborhood 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:19.160 deli and I went in there and I didn't know 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.160 what to do. I was terrified, and I stood behind 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:25.960 a coke machine, and then the agent came walking in, 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.680 took me by the hand, and I walked out with him. 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:33.680 The agent walked Cookie back down Susquehanna and brought her 0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:37.560 into the house. The FBI were turning the place upside down. 0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:40.319 Most of the raiders were safely at a farm half 0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:44.480 an hour away. Some were stuck behind John Peter Grady, 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.480 the mastermind of the whole raid, was pacing on the 0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.960 phone with their lawyer. Cookie walked up to another raider 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.240 who was sitting in the living room reading a book, 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.799 and noticed the book in his hands was upside down. 0:52:56.640 --> 0:53:01.640 Everyone was shitting bricks. So she resigned herself to her fate, 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:03.960 and she sat at the dining room table. 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:08.120 And I'm watching them go through the trash and it's 0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:13.200 like last night's dinner's garbage, and they're pulling out vegetable skins, 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:17.000 and it's just disgusting, going through piece by piece looking 0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:17.680 for evidence. 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.319 Luckily, overnight one of the raiders had removed from the 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:24.439 Susquehanna House all the files from the draft board raid 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:28.440 and put them in the getaway van. So theoretically the 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:32.120 Feds weren't going to find anything until. 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:35.520 The plan was that once everybody got out of the 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.759 draft boards, there was a plan to take everybody to 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:39.879 a farm. That's where they would stay and they would 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:42.080 go through the files. So I'm sitting there and watching 0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:44.680 this guy go through the trash and they're searching everywhere. 0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.680 The geworsi are being pulled out, going through boxes, and 0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:49.880 right in front of me, I tell you, it must 0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.040 have been maybe two feet in front of me on 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:56.399 the table is a little slip of paper with the 0:53:56.440 --> 0:54:00.839 address of the farm. I'm looking at them going through 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.840 the trash, and I'm looking at the piece of paper 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.520 and I'm thinking, oh my god. So I reach over 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.000 and I get the little piece of paper. I put 0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:13.719 it in my hand and I get up and I 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.320 go to the bathroom. As soon as I locked the door, 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.399 one of the agents says, who let her go into 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.120 the bathroom? She can't be in there. Yeah, And they're 0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:25.880 right now, bang it bang banga bed And I just 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:30.080 stayed in there tearing up the address to little tiny pieces, 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.960 putting it in a toilet, and I flushed the toilet, 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.640 and I left the room and went back outside. That 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.399 was the only contact for the farm, so they never 0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:41.080 got there. And if had they gotten there, there was 0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:43.279 two actions that night. All the other people from the 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.080 other action were there with their files. 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:51.480 Soon the police wagons arrived. They led everyone out in 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:54.479 handcuffs except for Cookie, so. 0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:58.560 They didn't arrest me, which almost was more punishment because 0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:02.640 there I was nineteen years old. The FBI just arrested 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.640 my good friends. I mean FBI, I mean I was 0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:08.239 nuns were just kind of something, but FBI agents were 0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:09.200 a big deal to me. 0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:11.200 Cookie had no idea what to do. 0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.320 I walked to the subway, I got in the subway, 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.480 I went home to my mother, and I am just 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:18.200 frozen in terror. 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:21.640 The East Coast conspiracy raiders were doing everything they could 0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:25.360 to sabotage the human costs of an immoral war, and 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:29.120 it was clear now to Cookie that that sabotage would 0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:30.239 have a cost of its own. 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:35.400 But then now I get a phone call at about 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:36.640 six or seven at night. 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:38.080 It's John Grady. 0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.480 Hey, Cookie, come on, gone down to Ralphs. 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:42.280 We're having dinner. 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:45.359 What so? 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:46.239 Ralphs is an. 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.520 Italian restaurant in my neighborhood. 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:51.399 I quickly got I don't know how I got there, 0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:53.440 but I got myself to the restaurant. I walk in 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.080 and they're all there, everybody. They had been released from 0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.960 wherever they were taken, and they were having basically a part. 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:04.520 Nobody talks, everybody walks. Even Anne and Paul were sitting there. 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.799 The judge, the Daily Communicant, had thrown out their case and. 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:12.480 He said, there is no evidence of miss Walsh breaking 0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.279 an enter. She was in a public restroom in a 0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:19.839 public building, and there are no connections between that and 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:24.160 across the hall. I got off Scott free, and Paul 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:25.080 the saying. 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.640 Anne, Paul, Cookie and all the rest were free to 0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:33.040 raid another day and to push their luck yet further. 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:37.200 Philadelphia had made it feel like, perhaps, for a moment, 0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.520 they might be winning and they could start taking some 0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:52.400 bigger risks. Divine Intervention is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.640 It's produced by Wonder Media Network and it was created 0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:59.960 and written by Me Your Host Brendan Patrick Hughes. Exception 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:05.480 only talented producers are Carmen Borca Correo, Abby Delk, Paloma Moreno, Jimenez, 0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:10.840 Grace Lynch, and myself. Our editor is the relentlessly capable 0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:16.080 Grace Lynch. 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