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Speaker 1: And when that happens, you tend to examine your life choices.

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Speaker 2: There I was inside the closet.

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Speaker 1: We last left Anne Walsh, trapped to two in the

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Speaker 3: Before I knew it, I heard those barking dogs with

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Speaker 1: Anne wasn't even supposed to be part of this raid,

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Speaker 3: Policeman came was with a drawing gun.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else had known the escape plan. If they got caught,

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Speaker 1: Now she was all alone in the dark in a

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Speaker 2: I was taken down to the ground floor, my hands

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Speaker 3: But it was these dogs, like you know, circling me.

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Speaker 3: So I'm praying, like to Saint Francis of a sissy,

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Speaker 1: Now Anne would be arrested, her one fear of disgracing

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Speaker 2: And one policeman said, frankly, I'd like to piss all

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Speaker 1: Police forces are kind of like hockey teams. You got

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Speaker 2: And that was like so horrified to me that someone

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Speaker 1: She's been just over a year away from the convent,

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Speaker 2: And I thought I was done for. I thought I

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Speaker 3: Remember four draft boards now had been discovered ravaged, and

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Speaker 3: I thought I would never see the light of day

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Speaker 1: Ann was in way over her head, but then Paul

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Speaker 3: Actually, this is like a snowy winter night and this

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Speaker 4: I just sat there by the exit door so I

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Speaker 1: In her darkest hour. Paul staged himself to be arrested

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Speaker 5: They police came up and asked me what I was

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Speaker 4: He came in and started asking me questions and started

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Speaker 4: So I ended up in the cell and I see

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Speaker 1: this point, as you may remember from episode one, mailed

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Speaker 1: Brendan Patrick Hughes, and this is Divine Intervention, Chapter five.

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Speaker 1: The red double doors on Park Street. While outside agitators

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Speaker 1: Anne and Paul were awaiting arraignment in the Philadelphia Slammer. Inside, incrementalists,

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Speaker 1: Young people from all over town were flocking to their

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Speaker 1: wild Sunday liturgies. The basement walls were festooned with colorful

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Speaker 1: But the problem was the priests upstairs were having none

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Speaker 6: Everything was an argument. This is Floyd, it becomes wearing,

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Speaker 1: And Patrick quickly discovered how uncomfortable change truly is.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you go into the common room where

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They were incredibly popular. Hundreds of

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Speaker 6: And that was the foothold Jim Carroll that Floyd.

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Speaker 7: And Patrick were able to stand on as they quickly

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Speaker 1: Patrick and Floyd had made their first alliance, their first

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Speaker 8: Notebook, concept of the teen Ministry emerges out of the

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Speaker 1: So they named themselves the Team, and together the three

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Speaker 8: Channels a petition with seven hundred signatures from barishioners to

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Speaker 6: As ignored, we tried to appeal within the house first

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Speaker 1: Pre steupstairs were not about to let these young turks

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Speaker 8: Patrick and Floyd refused to take collections at the four

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Speaker 1: The Paula Center was in serious debt and Patrick and

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Speaker 1: Floyd knew it. When they stopped taking collections at their

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars a week. But despite Patrick and Floyd

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Speaker 8: The crisis point. March eighth, nineteen seventy, the team decided

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Speaker 8: by imminent domain.

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Speaker 1: So the boys prepared the community to march up stairs

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Speaker 6: We're told that if we did, they were going to

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Speaker 8: Why are the New York hierarchy saying that if the

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Speaker 1: Now the whole place is in an uproar.

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Speaker 6: So then we had to appeal to Scarsdale.

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Speaker 1: Scarsdale is where the Policies have their national headquarters, where

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Speaker 1: the Superior General has his office.

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Speaker 8: Paulists throughout the country are in a state of turmoils

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Speaker 1: Now, polists all over the country were gnashing their teeth.

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Speaker 1: So the heads of the National Order came to Boston

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Speaker 8: The council meets with the whole Policy Center.

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Speaker 9: I can still kind of picture him in that room.

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Speaker 1: That's Christine Truffant. She was there. She was a local

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Speaker 9: He talked to us in the basement of the church,

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Speaker 9: and it was a very crowded meeting.

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Speaker 9: Was horrified and so surprised to realize he was really

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Speaker 3: I just think it was a matter of control.

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Speaker 1: Never before had the policed hierarchy had to reprimand its

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Speaker 3: The hierarchy was so scared.

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Speaker 2: What were they afraid of?

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Speaker 1: After a presidential tongue lashing for the youngs downstairs, it

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Speaker 1: was time for a showdown with the Cardigan brigade upstairs.

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Speaker 1: That meeting was intense.

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Speaker 8: All anger and hostility is out in the open for

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Speaker 8: the first time. The regulars want the team kicked out.

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Speaker 8: The house is now in two armed.

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Speaker 1: Camps, sitting in this deeply uncomfortable face to face confrontation

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Speaker 1: and gave the Order president the hard sell.

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Speaker 8: They wanted. First control of the whole apostolic operation, second

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Speaker 8: financial autonomy, third, two more members for the team, and

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Speaker 8: fourth reassignment of residence priests to other centers.

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Speaker 1: A stunned silence at their unmitigated gall filled the room.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing the President of the Order could

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Speaker 1: not deny. Patrick and Floyd were the ones that had

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Speaker 1: the box office to make the center financially solvent. He

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Speaker 1: had no choice but to grant the chapel to the team.

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Speaker 1: Their gamble worked. Patrick and Floyd, the young turks, the

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Speaker 1: fucking new guys who had only arrived the year prior,

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Speaker 8: May of nineteen seventy and Tobin joined the team. That

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Speaker 8: is a revolutionary act.

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Speaker 1: Tobin was appointed to be a female lay minister, which

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Speaker 9: This is really advanced stuff for the time, and I

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Speaker 1: Patrick and Floyd had huge plans. Patrick and Floyd were

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Speaker 10: That was the patriarchal culture. You know that you had

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Speaker 1: Mike Woodward was one part dreamer and two parts banned

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Speaker 10: I need help. He had no idea who the guy was,

444
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 10: he just looked official.

445
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: Mike had randomly run up to a Paulish priest named

446
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: Jack Campbell who worked at UT Austin.

447
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 10: So Jack brought him in to the rectory and learned

448
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 10: about the whole story, and he could see the trouble

449
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 10: Mike was in mentally.

450
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: So Jack agreed to go talk to Mary.

451
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 10: And there's Jack Campbell again in a trench coat. He

452
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 10: looks completely official, and he said, are you Marianne Woodward?

453
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 10: And I said yes, And he said, my name's Jack Campbell.

454
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 10: I'm a priest and I have Mike down at the rectory.

455
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 10: Can I come in? And I said sure.

456
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: Turns out father Jack was from Boston, just like Marianne.

457
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: It only took one conversation for him to see that

458
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,239
Speaker 1: Marianne did not belong in a marriage with Mike. And

459
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: she needed to leave Texas. So over the next few weeks,

460
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: Jack worked with Mike and mary Anne. They reached an

461
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: agreement that Mike would seek medical treatment and mari Anne

462
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: could return home to Boston. Then, in January of nineteen seventy,

463
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: Jack drove mary Anne and the two kids to the airport,

464
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: and while they stood there at the gate, Jack gave

465
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: Marianne something he'd brought for her.

466
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 10: He had written on his ordination card, which was I remember,

467
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 10: I say, I might must still have the Ordination card.

468
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 10: I'm sure I do. I'm sure I do. In a box.

469
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 10: The ordination card was a quote from Tayar de Chardanne

470
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 10: on the front.

471
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: Tahar de Chardin was a Catholic mystic and let me

472
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: tell you, and I say, this is basically an atheist.

473
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: His writing is the shit.

474
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 10: He handed me the card and he said, as he's

475
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 10: handing me the card, I want you to look up

476
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 10: this guy. He's my best friend in the world. You're

477
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 10: really gonna love him. He's terrific. His name's on the

478
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 10: back of the card.

479
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: Father Jack had given mary Anne Patrick's number at the

480
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Paula Center.

481
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 10: And then he said, and don't ever be afraid to

482
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 10: fall in love again, And that was the last thing

483
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 10: he said to me before I got on the plane.

484
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Mary Anne, at twenty three, flew home to Boston with

485
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: her two tiny children. Jojo was nine months Chrissy was two,

486
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: and she moved into an apartment on flo Florida Street

487
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: in Dorchester.

488
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 15: I was convinced that there was quicksand on Florida Street

489
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 15: because Florida.

490
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 10: I had two kids and not a nickel, nothing, and

491
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 10: it was obvious I would have to go on welfare.

492
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 10: I had no other option at that point.

493
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: She met a caseworker, barely got her expenses covered, and

494
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: settled into her new life in Dorchester. While she was unpacking,

495
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: she came across the card father Jack had given her

496
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: in Texas.

497
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 10: I decided I would call Jack's friend Patrick. I don't

498
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 10: know why exactly, but I decided I would call.

499
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: But when she reached for the phone, something strange happened.

500
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 10: When I sat down, I will never forget it. I

501
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 10: put my hand on the receiver and I thought, this

502
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 10: is one of the most important phone calls I'll ever

503
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 10: make in my life. And then I proceeded to dial the.

504
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Number, brushing off that strange premonition. She diediled seven digits,

505
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: and she and Patrick had a brief chat where he

506
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: invited her to come down to the Paula Center sometime, and.

507
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 10: I hung up. And I also then remember thinking I'm

508
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 10: not going to go to the Pall Center. I mean,

509
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 10: you know, I made the call because in some ways

510
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 10: I felt almost obligated to Jack to make the call,

511
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 10: and because I just made the call. But it wasn't

512
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 10: as if I wanted to talk to a priest for

513
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 10: sure about I don't know what God has put together,

514
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 10: Let no man put us under.

515
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Say that box checked. With a new chapter of life

516
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: to begin, she forgot all about the Paula Center and

517
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: began to meet other tenants in the building.

518
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 10: We all had kids about the same age, and everybody

519
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 10: used to babysit for everybody else.

520
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: She was determined to continue the political work she started

521
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: in Vista.

522
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 10: So I started doing welfare rights and we did some

523
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 10: prison stuff.

524
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: But then something horrifying happened on a campus in Ohio

525
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: that would indirectly change the entire course of her life.

526
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 10: The first week of May of nineteen seventy was the

527
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 10: invasion of Cambodia, and it was the murders at Kent State.

528
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 7: You earlier asked what was the pivotal moment, Jim Carroll,

529
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 7: when young people began to understand that they were standing

530
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 7: against something broad in the culture. And I've always thought

531
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 7: that the pivotal moment was Kent State.

532
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 17: Mixon, violating the promise he had made not to extend

533
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 17: the Vietnam War, extended it by bombing Cambodia.

534
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Howard Zinn At Kent.

535
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 17: State University, huge number of students got it on the

536
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 17: campus lawn. The governor called out the National Guard.

537
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 10: And the National Guard shot and killed four students.

538
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 7: By then, it was well known that the government was

539
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 7: capable of waging any immoral war ten thousand miles away.

540
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 7: But at Kent stated began to feel like the government

541
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 7: would turn its guns against young people.

542
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 10: It was and there were so many moments during that

543
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 10: time that were so chilling and so devastating about what

544
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 10: was what, my god, what is going on in this world?

545
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 10: How can this be happening?

546
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Despite the horrifying fact that the government was now deliberately

547
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: killing protesters, Marianne felt she had a duty to voice

548
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: her dissent.

549
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 10: I had heard or read in the Globe that there

550
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 10: was going to be a demonstration on the Boston Common,

551
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 10: and so I packed up the kids, Joe on the

552
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 10: backpack and Christian a carriage, and we walked to Ashmun

553
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 10: station and go to Park Street and go to the demonstration.

554
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: She and the kids marched and sang with protesters all afternoon,

555
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: and when the demonstration was over, they were walking down

556
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: Park Street back to the T station when she saw

557
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: two sets of red double doors across the street.

558
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 18: So I I said, oh my god, there's the pausitor.

559
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 18: I should go say hello to Jack's friend. I should

560
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 18: go over and say hello to Patrick. And I walk

561
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 18: into the building. Just walking into the building, there was.

562
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 10: A reception area and you could feel the aliveness of

563
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 10: the place the minute you walked into it. And Pat Downing,

564
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 10: who later became a good friend of mine, was sitting

565
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 10: at the reception area, and she yells into the intercom system, Patrick,

566
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 10: someone's here to see you. I waited a few minutes

567
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 10: and I'm just sort of standing around with the two kids,

568
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 10: and Patrick walked in. And I was anticipating that a

569
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 10: priest would.

570
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Walk in, but Patrick, always in a city's was not

571
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: at all what one picture is when one thinks of

572
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: a Catholic priest.

573
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 11: And it was this incredible moment of absolutely love at

574
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 11: first sight.

575
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: They each quickly tried to brush off what happen and

576
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: when they locked eyes and said a friendly hello. He

577
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: had moved his office upstairs from the basement, and he

578
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: took Marianne and the kids into one of the conference

579
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: rooms where a bunch of volunteers were working on big projects.

580
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 10: And it was like a war room. It was like

581
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 10: a campaign office. And in the campaign office, everybody they

582
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 10: were on phones and mimiograph machines and doing press releases.

583
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 10: And everybody looks up and Patrick says, hey, how's everybody doing.

584
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 10: I just want to introduce you to someone. You know.

585
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 10: I don't think I ever told you guys that I

586
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 10: was married with two kids.

587
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Right as a joke, paging doctor Freud.

588
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 10: He was so charismatic and magnetic and fun, just fun, light,

589
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 10: lighthearted and fun, but really deep at the same time.

590
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 10: That's why he was so acharged, That's why he was

591
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 10: so magnetic. He didn't take himself seriously. He wasn't egocentric

592
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 10: and dopey, you know. So he knew who.

593
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 16: He was and he knew what his life was committed

594
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 16: to love and joy and mission and passion and being

595
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 16: fully alive in service.

596
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: They went up to his new office and she told

597
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: him all about her ordeal with Mike. In Texas. Patrick

598
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: had just taken over the chapel for his liturgy extravaganzas,

599
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: and the first one would be this Sunday.

600
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 10: And he said, why don't you come in to Mass

601
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 10: on Sunday night? Why don't you come into the liturgy.

602
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 10: I think you'd really enjoy it. And again I'm thinking

603
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 10: to myself, really, I was still stuck with this idea

604
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 10: of more of the old church. I had not been

605
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 10: introduced to the new Church.

606
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: Like most adults who grew up Catholic, Mary Anne had

607
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: long since lapsed and felt perfectly fine being church free,

608
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Yet the following Sunday night, she

609
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: found herself putting Christy and Jojo down to sleep, getting

610
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: her neighbor to watch them, and slipping down to the

611
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: Red Line. She got off the train at Park Street

612
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: and walked up the hill towards the illuminated gold dome

613
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: of the State House, approaching the Poula Center's iconic pair

614
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: of red double doors.

615
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 10: So I get to the Paula Center and it is

616
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 10: rocking the house. I couldn't believe it. It was so

617
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 10: crowded that I had to go upstairs to the balcony

618
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 10: because there were no seats left. People were hanging from

619
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 10: the brekofters. And I went upstairs. I remember had on

620
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 10: a red dress. I remember that, I actually remember the

621
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 10: red dress. And I went upstairs and I stood by

622
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 10: the banister.

623
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Mary Anne wound up front row center in the standing

624
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: room only balcony, staring right down at the altar.

625
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 9: The music, music really stirs to soul, really.

626
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 10: In the body back.

627
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 19: And they had a group of people that were playing

628
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 19: guitars and.

629
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: Singing, Christine Trufont and Antobin, enthusiastic members of the Paula

630
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: Center Gang.

631
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 10: You couldn't help it. Again, the music was very temporary.

632
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: Music was so lively, and then.

633
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 10: It began, do the right thing, do the.

634
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: Do it all the time, do it all the time,

635
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: make yourself right.

636
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 10: Never mind, don't you know you're not the only one suffering.

637
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: It was such a joyful place.

638
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 9: There was something greater going on there in the sense

639
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 9: that it was more equal. The priest wasn't held any

640
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 9: higher than the people, and it was a new concept.

641
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 10: Do the right thing, do the right thing, do it

642
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 10: all the time, do it all the time. Make yourself right.

643
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 10: Never mind, don't you do you that the only.

644
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 19: Suffer I'll see you up looking and wandering so diligent,

645
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 19: crossing the teasers over.

646
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 13: One ANLEI is this is what they.

647
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 18: Really let They could mean a rock, then we could

648
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 18: be the pay minsense.

649
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 10: There's a point in the mass when you're doing the

650
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 10: consecration you actually hold up the chalice and the host.

651
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 10: And Patrick said there was a moment when he held

652
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 10: it up and he saw that I was up in

653
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 10: the balcony, and he said, oh great, she came.

654
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 14: We'll make it all right.

655
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 10: It'll call around, I'll mention it.

656
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 13: They say it's nothing, but that in reality they ca

657
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 13: it someone make it, someone take it day.

658
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Marianne was thunderstruck by her experience that night and decided

659
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: she was all in.

660
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 10: Because I knew I wanted to be a part of this.

661
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 10: I just wasn't sure how you did it, so I

662
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 10: was just going to keep.

663
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 20: Showing up, doing time.

664
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 8: Naked in.

665
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: Her only problem was a growing crush on a Catholic priest.

666
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: Patrick was in the throes of having just taken over

667
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: the entire police center. He didn't need this crush either.

668
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: He and Floyd were pulling in massive donations at their

669
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: weekly extravaganzas. But they had started so many programs in

670
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: their basement and had so many huge ideas for the

671
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: place that they had ballooned the budget.

672
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 6: But that required some money. Floyd, well, there's no money.

673
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: Patrick and Floyd had harnessed the energies of the young

674
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: and built a bonafide army of do gooding hell raisers.

675
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: So they took this opportunity to make a statement. And

676
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: that's when Patrick put together a plan that literally, and

677
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean this changed the world.

678
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 10: The following Sunday was the first Walk for Hunger.

679
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: It was at this moment that Patrick started the Walk

680
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: for Hunger. This was the project all those people in

681
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Patrick's office were working on when Marianne walked in.

682
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 14: The thing about it was it was a very ingenious idea.

683
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: This is Bob Cannaane from the Milwaukee fourteen.

684
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 14: Where Patrick genius saw at first in a sense was

685
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 14: that people like to do things in order to raise

686
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 14: money for good causes, like rather than just going door

687
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 14: to door or asking somebody to donate over TV or

688
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 14: something like that, there was an action.

689
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Perform Stuck for money, but surrounded by youthful energy. Patrick

690
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: started the first pledge walk in the United.

691
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 14: States, where the people raising the money feel good about it,

692
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 14: and the people giving the money feel good about it

693
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 14: because you walk twenty mile, that's great, y'all. I'll give

694
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 14: you so much a mile, and things like that. So

695
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 14: it was participation that was really.

696
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: Key, and his simple idea quickly went viral. These days,

697
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: there are hundreds of walks and runs and marches for

698
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: charity throughout the United States, and from Boston, you know

699
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: all about the Walk for Hunger. This year will be

700
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: the fifty fifth walk. It's a long standing testament to

701
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: the better angels of Bostonians and one of our most

702
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: important rites of spring. But here's the thing to know

703
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: about Patrick that mary Anne was now learning. Sure, he

704
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: was a pied piper who could muster the enthusiasm of

705
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: thousands of people, but he was also perpetually in over

706
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: his head, so a central component of all of his

707
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: crazy schemes was always a certain merry confusion. In her

708
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: first week, Marianne saw no end of people scarring around,

709
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: putting out fires and laughing the entire time Patrick had

710
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: asked one volunteer to plan the route, but Boston is

711
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: a spaghetti bowl of one way streets.

712
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 19: It seemed like way more than twenty miles. Tobin to me,

713
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 19: it felt like this must be one hundred and miles,

714
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 19: And in fact, somebody did go out and measure it

715
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 19: afterwards and it was more like thirty.

716
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: But even in the midst of what anyone else would

717
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: call a hellish logistical nightmare, Patrick infused the entire Paula

718
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: Center community with a certain irrepressibility, even in inclement weather.

719
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 10: And it poured rain. It poured rain. I can't even

720
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 10: tell you. It never stopped raining from early morning till

721
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 10: late night. It just poured all day long.

722
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 19: It was like a northeaster and it was awful, awful,

723
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 19: but we did it and we laughed.

724
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 10: It was like, oh my god.

725
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: This is brutal.

726
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: And this was a Sunday, which means that night Patrick

727
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: had a mask to celebrate again.

728
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 10: I got the kids to bed, I leaned babysat, and

729
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 10: I got in there by the eight o'clock mass. They

730
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 10: were just straggling in. They were just straggling in still

731
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 10: at eight o'clock at night, because they had walked twenty

732
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 10: five miles and it had been pouring rain that had

733
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 10: to stop. And Patrick came in drenched, drenched, drenched with

734
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 10: slickers and unbelievable it was. But it was such a

735
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 10: feat And I don't know how many people walked at

736
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 10: that first I think maybe a couple thousand people.

737
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: As he began the liturgy that night, he saw that

738
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: Marianne returned and their eyes met.

739
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 10: And as I got to know more of what was

740
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 10: happening at the center in terms of activism, and as

741
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 10: I got to know the people more, it was I

742
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 10: just felt like I had died and gone to heaven.

743
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 10: I couldn't believe that this community was there for the

744
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 10: taking to be part of.

745
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: After the leturgy, Patrick invited Marianne to join the gang

746
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: out for dinner.

747
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 10: Patrick came over and introduced me to some people and

748
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 10: all that, and said, folks are going down to the

749
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 10: New Deal for pizza, so would you like to join us?

750
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 10: That's all I was like, okay, So I asked somebody

751
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 10: where the New Deal was, but I didn't really know anybody.

752
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 10: So I sort of walked down to the New Deal

753
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 10: by myself. The whole gang kind of arrived and I

754
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 10: was sitting beside me and Tobin, who I think I

755
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 10: had just met. Patrick came in and he sat down

756
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 10: over here and he started chatting, and we were all

757
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 10: talking and everybody's all hanging around and Ann Tobin told

758
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 10: me later that she thought to herself, if he ever

759
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 10: leaves the priesthood, this is who he'll leave it for.

760
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: After pizza and beer at the New Deal, Patrick didn't

761
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: want this new person to get away, so he offered

762
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Marianne a ride home Sunday nights.

763
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 10: This habit started that Patrick would offer to drive me

764
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 10: home because I lived in Dorchester and I would be

765
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 10: walking from the train station by myself. He'd say, how

766
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 10: are you getting home? And I would say I'm taking

767
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 10: the subway and he'd say, no, no, I'll give you a ride.

768
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 10: So sort of like that, and that started probably the

769
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 10: very first night.

770
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Despite their romantic tension, they quickly became very close friends.

771
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: Marianne found more reasons to get involved in the Paula Center.

772
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: She brought her kids, she sat on committees, and Patrick

773
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: would drive her home. And as a Bostonian, I can

774
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: tell you that trip is a schlep. But as their

775
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: chemistry grew, it might have started getting a little too

776
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: close for Patrick's comfort, so he bought himself some insurance.

777
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 10: So one Sunday night, Patrick said, I have an idea.

778
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 10: This is really good friend of mine. She's actually in

779
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 10: the singing group. She's in New Jersey right now taking

780
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 10: care of her father, but she's coming back to Boston.

781
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 10: She actually just quit school and she's looking for a

782
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 10: place to live. And I was wondering, if you want

783
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 10: to put her up till she can find a place

784
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 10: and she could help you out with the rent, and

785
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 10: what do you think? And I said, oh, sure, because

786
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 10: again I don't know in those days, you were like, right, yeah,

787
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 10: what's the next thing? Of course you have no second

788
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 10: thoughts about it.

789
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: Sarah Toci would eventually stand next to mary Anne and

790
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: Paul in the Brighams, trying to smuggle Paul into the

791
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Paula Center for his sanctuary.

792
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 15: I remember them talking and laughing all the time.

793
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: Chrissy again, mary Anne's daughter, who was just turning three

794
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: when Sarah moved in.

795
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 15: And Sarah I remember as having like long wavy hair

796
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 15: and a beautiful singing voice, and she seemed sad to me,

797
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 15: like there's a melancholy about her.

798
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 20: I am a loner. I always have been, and I'm

799
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 20: just the brink of giving it all away.

800
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Sarah left behind a mountain of stenopads and journals. I

801
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: found them in the same box I found Father X's notebook.

802
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 20: A loner, it's hard to accept, hard to deal with

803
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 20: a happy sad night. We're so happy, You're happy, so

804
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 20: happy you found a home.

805
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 15: But also she was screaming, laughing all the time. She

806
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 15: felt like family.

807
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 10: We just rolled.

808
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 15: Along with my mom's accumulation of her family. So when

809
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 15: she pulled someone into the orbit, it just was It

810
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 15: just was like, Oh, this is Sarah. Sarah lives with us.

811
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: Reading her notes brings you right back to the emotional

812
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: intensity of your twenties, the thrill of a new friendship,

813
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: the daily epiphanies about your purpose in the world, the

814
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: possibility of outrunning your weaknesses.

815
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 20: To believe in God is to get high on love

816
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 20: enough to look down on your loneliness and forget it forever.

817
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 20: Right mary Anne Big tears.

818
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: Late talk.

819
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 10: We just we were the most incredible match.

820
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: At long last. Mary Anne had found her people.

821
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 10: Then we had each other to engage with and make

822
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 10: sense of the world. For everything I could get my

823
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 10: hands on to understand the world, to understand myself, to

824
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 10: understand my relationship with God, with the divine, just to

825
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 10: know and to understand.

826
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 6: And so was she.

827
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 10: I was hanging up one of her posters in the

828
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 10: living room bedroom slash and I turned around to her

829
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 10: and I said, do you think you're moving in? And

830
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 10: she said, I think I'm moving in? And that was that.

831
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: And then the two of them became inseparable.

832
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 10: With Patrick, I mean he would be driving the two

833
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 10: of us home on Sunday nights. From the center right,

834
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 10: Patrick and Sarah and I became something of a trio.

835
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 20: Hey, Patrick, we hate to finish what we've just begun

836
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 20: with you. We still haven't let go of your hands,

837
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 20: have we? Are we committed to each other? Are we

838
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 20: three committed to each other?

839
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: All that fall, Mary, Anne, Patrick, and Sarah became the

840
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: Three Musketeers. The loneliness that had chased her since her

841
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: mother died was finally draining away. She knew that this place,

842
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: packed with singing, laughing people, was a place that could

843
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: change everything from the inside. In Philadelphia, outside agitators, Anne

844
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: and Paul were waiting in the bowels of a brutalist

845
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: courthouse to be arraigned for a draft board raid gone

846
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: horribly wrong. Also in attendance was a teenager they knew

847
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: named Cookie.

848
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 10: So I go down there, I meet the lawyer.

849
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: Cookie Ridolfi had been on the support team of the

850
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: Philly raid and brought sandwiches to the hiding raiders the

851
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: afternoon of the ill fated night. Concerned for Anne and Paul,

852
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: she came down to the arraignment on her own and

853
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: found a place to sit in the gallery next to

854
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: their lawyer. Soon Paul and Anne were brought in by

855
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: the authorities.

856
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: When we went to temp arragnment, the place was crowded

857
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: with nuns and priests and like Roman calls and habits

858
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: and stuff.

859
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: Anne's lawyer noticed and asked Anne if they were friends of.

860
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: Hers, and so I said, well, not personally no, but

861
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: I think you'd be here for the cause. And he

862
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 3: said tell them to move up, because the judge is

863
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: a daily.

864
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Communicant, meaning, by some stroke of luck, the judge was

865
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: a super Catholic that went to Mass every single morning.

866
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: Paul decided this was his opening to raise hell about

867
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: the beating he took in the police fan.

868
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 4: I brought it up at the hearing.

869
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the FED who had beat him up was sitting

870
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: in the gallery.

871
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: He came to testify it, but he was there with

872
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 4: his same shoes on, wingtip shoes, and nobody in the

873
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: peace community in Philadelphia could believe it because he was

874
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: in charge of the disobedient squad and they had always

875
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 4: gotten along with him.

876
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 8: Well.

877
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: As Paul blew the cover of this two faced goon

878
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: from Philly's law enforcement, the mood in the gallery became

879
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: rather tense. Cookie watching from the gallery was the only

880
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: person from the East Coast Conspiracy to Save Lives who

881
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: had come to the arraignment. At this point, one of

882
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: the movement lawyers turned to her and said, I.

883
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 13: Think you should leave, And I said why, you know, really?

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Speaker 13: He goes yeah, because he said, there's all these manner

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Speaker 13: right here FBI agents. They're going to be very interested

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Speaker 13: in you. I think you should just quietly leave the

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Speaker 13: room and go away, go someplace else.

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Speaker 1: She looked around and noticed the courtroom was full of

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Speaker 1: wing tips.

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Speaker 13: So I get up to go out, and every eye

891
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Speaker 13: is on me. Every man in that room, white man

892
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 13: in a suit, wingtips. Their eyes are on me. As

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Speaker 13: I walk out and I get to the front of

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Speaker 13: the building, and I look to my right and there's

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Speaker 13: a whole line of agents. They're leaning against the wall

896
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Speaker 13: and they're watching me every step. So I think to myself,

897
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Speaker 13: I can't go back to Susquehanna because they'll follow me.

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Speaker 1: Susquehanna was the street in Philly's Fishtown section where the

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Speaker 1: raiders had their safe house. That's where everyone was. That's

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Speaker 1: where she needed to go. But she didn't want to

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00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: lead the FBI right to the door, so she began hitchhiking,

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Speaker 1: criss crossing Philadelphia in the hopes of shaking off any

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Speaker 1: possible tail. Finally, she felt it was safe and headed

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Speaker 1: back to Susquehanna.

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Speaker 13: And I turn around to open the door to get

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Speaker 13: out of the car, and I'm right in front of

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Speaker 13: the house, and I see the front door of the

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Speaker 13: house open. I see FBI agents standing on the steps

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Speaker 13: of the house, and I realize that this is like

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Speaker 13: a crime scene.

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Speaker 1: The FEDS had already found Susquehanna. Cookie was walking into

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Speaker 1: a trap.

913
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Speaker 13: Get out of the car right in front of the house.

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Speaker 13: And then I pretend I don't know the house, and

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Speaker 13: I make a right turn and I walked down the street,

916
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Speaker 13: and I can tell this guy following me. And then

917
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Speaker 13: on that street corner was a little working class neighborhood

918
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Speaker 13: deli and I went in there and I didn't know

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Speaker 13: what to do. I was terrified, and I stood behind

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Speaker 13: a coke machine, and then the agent came walking in,

921
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Speaker 13: took me by the hand, and I walked out with him.

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Speaker 1: The agent walked Cookie back down Susquehanna and brought her

923
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Speaker 1: into the house. The FBI were turning the place upside down.

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Speaker 1: Most of the raiders were safely at a farm half

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Speaker 1: an hour away. Some were stuck behind John Peter Grady,

926
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Speaker 1: the mastermind of the whole raid, was pacing on the

927
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Speaker 1: phone with their lawyer. Cookie walked up to another raider

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Speaker 1: who was sitting in the living room reading a book,

929
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Speaker 1: and noticed the book in his hands was upside down.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was shitting bricks. So she resigned herself to her fate,

931
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Speaker 1: and she sat at the dining room table.

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Speaker 13: And I'm watching them go through the trash and it's

933
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Speaker 13: like last night's dinner's garbage, and they're pulling out vegetable skins,

934
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Speaker 13: and it's just disgusting, going through piece by piece looking

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Speaker 13: for evidence.

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Speaker 1: Luckily, overnight one of the raiders had removed from the

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Speaker 1: Susquehanna House all the files from the draft board raid

938
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Speaker 1: and put them in the getaway van. So theoretically the

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Speaker 1: Feds weren't going to find anything until.

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Speaker 13: The plan was that once everybody got out of the

941
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Speaker 13: draft boards, there was a plan to take everybody to

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Speaker 13: a farm. That's where they would stay and they would

943
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Speaker 13: go through the files. So I'm sitting there and watching

944
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Speaker 13: this guy go through the trash and they're searching everywhere.

945
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Speaker 13: The geworsi are being pulled out, going through boxes, and

946
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Speaker 13: right in front of me, I tell you, it must

947
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Speaker 13: have been maybe two feet in front of me on

948
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Speaker 13: the table is a little slip of paper with the

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Speaker 13: address of the farm. I'm looking at them going through

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Speaker 13: the trash, and I'm looking at the piece of paper

951
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Speaker 13: and I'm thinking, oh my god. So I reach over

952
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Speaker 13: and I get the little piece of paper. I put

953
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Speaker 13: it in my hand and I get up and I

954
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Speaker 13: go to the bathroom. As soon as I locked the door,

955
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Speaker 13: one of the agents says, who let her go into

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Speaker 13: the bathroom? She can't be in there. Yeah, And they're

957
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 13: right now, bang it bang banga bed And I just

958
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 13: stayed in there tearing up the address to little tiny pieces,

959
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Speaker 13: putting it in a toilet, and I flushed the toilet,

960
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 13: and I left the room and went back outside. That

961
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Speaker 13: was the only contact for the farm, so they never

962
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Speaker 13: got there. And if had they gotten there, there was

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Speaker 13: two actions that night. All the other people from the

964
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Speaker 13: other action were there with their files.

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Speaker 1: Soon the police wagons arrived. They led everyone out in

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Speaker 1: handcuffs except for Cookie, so.

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Speaker 13: They didn't arrest me, which almost was more punishment because

968
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Speaker 13: there I was nineteen years old. The FBI just arrested

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Speaker 13: my good friends. I mean FBI, I mean I was

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00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 13: nuns were just kind of something, but FBI agents were

971
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Speaker 13: a big deal to me.

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Speaker 1: Cookie had no idea what to do.

973
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Speaker 13: I walked to the subway, I got in the subway,

974
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Speaker 13: I went home to my mother, and I am just

975
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Speaker 13: frozen in terror.

976
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Speaker 1: The East Coast conspiracy raiders were doing everything they could

977
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Speaker 1: to sabotage the human costs of an immoral war, and

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Speaker 1: it was clear now to Cookie that that sabotage would

979
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Speaker 1: have a cost of its own.

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Speaker 13: But then now I get a phone call at about

981
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Speaker 13: six or seven at night.

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Speaker 10: It's John Grady.

983
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Speaker 13: Hey, Cookie, come on, gone down to Ralphs.

984
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Speaker 10: We're having dinner.

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Speaker 1: What so?

986
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Speaker 6: Ralphs is an.

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Speaker 10: Italian restaurant in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 13: I quickly got I don't know how I got there,

989
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Speaker 13: but I got myself to the restaurant. I walk in

990
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Speaker 13: and they're all there, everybody. They had been released from

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Speaker 13: wherever they were taken, and they were having basically a part.

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00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: Nobody talks, everybody walks. Even Anne and Paul were sitting there.

993
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: The judge, the Daily Communicant, had thrown out their case and.

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Speaker 3: He said, there is no evidence of miss Walsh breaking

995
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: an enter. She was in a public restroom in a

996
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 3: public building, and there are no connections between that and

997
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: across the hall. I got off Scott free, and Paul

998
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Speaker 3: the saying.

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Speaker 1: Anne, Paul, Cookie and all the rest were free to

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Speaker 1: raid another day and to push their luck yet further.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia had made it feel like, perhaps, for a moment,

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Speaker 1: they might be winning and they could start taking some

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Speaker 1: bigger risks. Divine Intervention is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: It's produced by Wonder Media Network and it was created

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Speaker 1: and written by Me Your Host Brendan Patrick Hughes. Exception

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Speaker 1: only talented producers are Carmen Borca Correo, Abby Delk, Paloma Moreno, Jimenez,

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Speaker 1: Grace Lynch, and myself. Our editor is the relentlessly capable

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Speaker 1: Grace Lynch. Scoring production from Hannah Bottom for Wonder Media Network.

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Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Emily Rudder and Jenny Kaplan for

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Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producer is Christina Everett. Special thanks

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Speaker 1: to Tim Perry from one of my favorite bands, Ages

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Speaker 1: and Ages, who allowed us to use their incredible song

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Speaker 1: Divisionary Do the Right Thing to represent what liturgies in

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Speaker 1: the Poula Center might have sounded like. Our theme and

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Speaker 1: end credit music was composed and performed by the Effervescentania

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Speaker 1: Donnelly and mastered by Ben Aerns, who is not without

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Speaker 1: his own shimmer. The Late Sarah Toosi was voiced by

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Speaker 1: Carly Pope, an actor and Canadian National Treasure. Father X

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Speaker 1: was voiced by Adam O'Byrne, who is also from Canada.

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Speaker 1: This is Brendan Patrick Hughes. Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: Divine Intervention.