1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one seventy two, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: and today we're back with another RUT Radio report in 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: which we're sharing updates on current deer activity and behavior 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: across the country this week, and we've got a very 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: exciting story from one of our very own Wired to 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: Hunt team members. All right, welcome to the Wired to 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: Hunt podcast, brought to you by sit Gear, and we're 11 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: back today with a new episode of our RUT Radio series. 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: It's early October, and as we do on each week's 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: RUT Radio episod, so we're gonna be checking in with 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: a handful of deer hunters from all across the country 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: to hear about deer activity, dear behavior, the conditions that 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: are present right now, tactics that are working right now, 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: and and even thoughts on what we can expect in 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the coming days. So that's what we're gonna be talking 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: about here over the next half hour or so. And 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: with me, as he is on each episode of RUT Radio, 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: is a guy that I used to like a lot 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: a guy that maybe maybe he's making me very jealous though. 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Now this man is named Spencer new Hearth, and he 24 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: is the man of the hour of the week. He 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: is he is now reaching legendary status in my mind. Spencer, 26 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: you pulled off a hunt of a lifetime, didn't you. Yes. 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: I am in a good mood today, and I know 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: we've got a bunch of guests that you have lined 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: up that are going to talk about stuff all over 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: the country, and I'm sure they're gonna be great. But 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn right now. I just want 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: to talk to you. I want you to tell us 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: what happened to you the other day? Um, what is 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: your rut or what is your rut? Radio report for 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: us today? Uh? Well, Mark, I shot a big book. 36 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: Come on, that's like a that's like an under that's 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: an understatement. If I ever heard you killed a you 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: killed a buck of just unbelievable proportions, you killed a giant, 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: you killed you killed the kind of buck that like 40 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: makes me cry just a little bit. It's crazy. Even 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: when you were the killer, you cry a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: tell me everything. Tell me how how did this hunt, 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: because when we talked last time, you had been talking 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: about this public land western South Dakota hunt you were 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: going on, and we had, you know, ambitions to share 46 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: that in on Instagram and all sorts of stuff. So 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: so maybe start there. Tell us what happened there, how 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: your plans changed, and now how you ended up killing 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: this buck in a totally different part the state. All right, Well, 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: we talked about it a little bit last time. I 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: was going to go west. My idea there was to 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: pick out some public ground that would be overlooked, and 53 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: I was in the heart of mule deer country, but 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna try to find some white tails. So 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: I focused on some ground that just looked like textbook 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: white tail habitat with river bottoms, um and hardwoods. Got 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: there heading never seen in person, and was immediately pretty 58 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: turned off because there was a lot of cattle on it, 59 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: and I knew that was a possibility. Um, but until 60 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: you see it, and uh, you scout a couple of 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: times and hunted, it wasn't until then that I really 62 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: lost confidence. Mm hmm. Man's exactly what happened to me 63 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: in Montana. Yeah, Um, the area wasn't absent of deer. Um. 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: That wasn't the problem. The problem was that they were 65 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: all on private ground. Um, the public I just couldn't 66 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: compete with the lush um grass and brush that was 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: just on the other side of the fence. So they 68 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: were dear there. And I suspect there will be in 69 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: like three weeks when the cattle are out on the 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: public um, but for now it just would not be 71 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: a productive place to hunt. And so after like three 72 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: days there, I cut the trip short and headed back 73 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: east to where I'm from. And any time in the fall, 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: you have three days. Uh, those three days are just 75 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: too valuable to spend doing something that you don't have 76 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: any confidence, And so that was why I decided to 77 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: come back home. Makes sense. So what happened then, Well, 78 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: you ended up in the tree again, right, yes? Um, 79 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: So the stuff that I've been hunting for the last um, 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, five or six years since I've gotten really 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: into archery hunting. Um, I decided I was gonna finish 82 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: out my weekend haunting that stuff. Instead, we had um 83 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: hard south wind for two straight nights, and so the 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: first night was Friday night. UM got on the stand. 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm hunting, Um, I'm hunting a cornfield, and they was 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: a lot of movement, and there was a lot of 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: movement early. Um, enough that made me want to come 88 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: back the next night. And I can do that in 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: this area because with that corn I'm easy, d I'm 90 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: able to get in and out very easy. And so 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: the following night I came back and it was a 92 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: lot less action this time. But can I can I interrupt? 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Can you tell me? Tell me about this specific setup. 94 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: So you're on the edge of a corn field. But 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: but why why do you think it would be a 96 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: good spot early season? UM, give me a few more details. 97 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: I want to paint this picture in my mind. Well, 98 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: I like the idea of low risk CONTs right now. UM, 99 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: I want to be out in the woods, but I 100 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: don't want to mess anything up um for the end 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: of October and the beginning of November. And so this 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: is a place, like I said, I'm confident I can 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: get in and out of easily. UM, I'm probably gonna 104 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: see dear, I'm not gonna feel, like you know, on 105 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: board out of my mind. And it's just a low 106 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: risk area that I can hunt in an early season. 107 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: It makes sense because there is a lot of corn there, 108 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: and I have a low of hate relationship with corn 109 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: um standing corn. That is. The pros of it is 110 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: that it's a great insulator for the deer. Um. You know, 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: there's roads around and and homes and they can be 112 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: in that corner. I have no idea any of that 113 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: stuff is going on. Like I said, I can't get 114 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: in and out very easy with that standing corn. And 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: the cons of it, though, are that um it's too 116 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: good of an insulator. Sometimes the deer can find a 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: low spot in there and they can bet in a 118 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: slough and you know, they can eat the corn. You'll 119 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: never see him until come harvest. The other problem is 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: getting a shot in those situations. If that deer is 121 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: even in the first drow of corn, he could be 122 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: ten yards away, But I'm not gonna have a shot. 123 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: It's just really hard to get an arrow in there. 124 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: And so I picked the corn with not a lot 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: of confidence, but I thought I would still see deer 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: and that would be a nice change of pace from 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: what I was just doing out west. Yeah, and did 128 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: you know did you know that there was were there 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: mature bucks in the area to your knowledge, did you 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: have some deer on camera or that you'd scouted, that 131 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: you new about or anything like that. So this was 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: my year of minimalist scouting. I just got married in June, 133 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: I moved into a new house in August, and so 134 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: my scouting kind of by choice, and because I had 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: no choice. UM was almost nothing in this area in particular. 136 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even have a camera up yet this year, 137 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: and I was planning on hanging one this weekend. UM 138 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: never got around to it, obviously, So I was just 139 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: hunting this based off historical states. I knew there would 140 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: be deer around, but no, to answer your question, I 141 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: did not know there was a deer of this caliber there. 142 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: So you're going it's a low impact hunt. It's a 143 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: good general area for earlier season movement, but you weren't 144 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: gonna mess better things up, you know, too early, and 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: you're you're hanging in hunting based on historical data. And 146 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: now it's day number two. Yes, and uh I did 147 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: not have the same action that I had the night before. 148 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: But it was seven twenty pm. Sunset was at seven, 149 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: and uh so we were in that last you know, 150 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: half hour of daylight and it was the golden hour 151 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 1: and here comes this big buck up the ridge um 152 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: far down the cornfield. When I first saw him, it 153 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: was two yards. So I get my bionos on him 154 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: and immediately I know this is a shooter. The problem 155 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: is he's coming straight at me, um walking. Can you 156 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: can you just you pull you pull your bionos up. 157 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: You see this as a shooter. What else can you 158 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: tell me about what this deer looks like? Can you 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: describe this buck? Because he's he's he's worth describing. Um. So, 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: although like I said, I didn't know that he was 161 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: around this year, UM, I knew this buck from and 162 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: when I pulled up the bionos, I knew who he was. 163 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: And he has a very distinguished um kicker on his 164 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: right G two and then he has these big bladed 165 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: brown Italians and so I knew who he was right away. 166 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: And and he just has um a really heavy and 167 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: wide main frame four by four. So I knew this buck. 168 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,359 Speaker 1: And I didn't spend much time looking through the binoculars 169 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: at him because he was walking right at me and 170 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: I didn't want to make any extra movements. So I 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: glassed him for a couple of seconds, but the banno 172 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: was away and got ready, and I was just tore 173 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: up watching him come in, because I mean, I like 174 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: to think that buck fever doesn't get me, but he does. 175 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: And yeah, I had to watch him for probably five 176 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: or six minutes make his way towards me, and at 177 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: any point he could have hit a trail and went 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: into the corner and gone, And I thought he was 179 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: going to do that the entire time, but he kept coming. 180 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: He was at one fifty and then a hundred, and 181 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I thought, man, this might happen. And he keeps coming, 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's at twenty five yards. 183 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Same thing that he's coming right at me. So I 184 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: don't have a shot, and he pauses and messes around, 185 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: and then he's at twenty Still don't have a shot. Yes, 186 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: so I'm just at this point, I'm gonna let him 187 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: walk by me and see if I can get a 188 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: shot after he's beyond me. I did not set this 189 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: stand up with the intention of smoking a deer at 190 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: eight yards, but that was what ended up happening. At 191 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: eight yards, he finally turned. Uh. He gave me a 192 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: quartering two shots, and I was able to sneak an 193 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: arrow right behind his shoulder. But I knew it was 194 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: a good hit. Um. I saw the arrow have a 195 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: clean pass through, and and he turned and ran. The 196 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: problem with the deer being at eight yards when you 197 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: draw back, it's all body in your line of vision, 198 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: and so uh, it can be hard to distinguish what 199 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: was a good shot because the time between you releasing 200 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: the arrow and pulling your head back to see where 201 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the arrow hits it's nothing. I felt confident though I 202 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: saw the arrow go through, he takes off, he does 203 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: a U turn and runs back about fifty yards. Uh. 204 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: And I didn't see him come from beyond this tree, 205 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: and so I I knew he at least bedded down there, 206 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: or was maybe down altogether. I waited about fifteen minutes 207 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: and grabbed my arrow because it was so windy, was 208 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: like winds that night. Anyway, I could slip out of 209 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: my stand, check the arrow and see what was going on. Well. 210 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: I had dark blood, um that I thought it was 211 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: a hard shot because I knew I hit him low, 212 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: and so I gave him a little bit more time, 213 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: and I snuck up to where I saw him going, 214 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: and sure enough he was laying there. The problem was 215 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: he picks up his head that I thought was I 216 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: thought his head laying down was him dead? It was not. 217 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Picks up his head, looks at me, jumps out of 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: his bed and runs over the ridge. Um, So then 219 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: I was even more tore up. I knew, I knew 220 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I messed up. It was a very amateur thing to do, 221 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: but I just had to deal with it. So I 222 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: backed out, called a couple of buddies, gave him two hours, 223 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: We came back, picked up blood, and found him within 224 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. He only went a couple of hundred yards 225 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: and he is down, and he had been down for 226 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: a while. I just should not have got him out 227 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: of that first bed, but I was extremely relieved. So 228 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: what end did the shot end up being where he 229 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: thought it was and he just survived longer than you 230 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: would have expected? Or were you a little farther back? 231 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Or what do you think it was low? Like I 232 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: thought the problem with was quartering two shots? Um like 233 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: this was I missed his heart by half an inch, 234 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: but I caught so much of the rest of his body. 235 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: I got lung, liver, and then on the exit it 236 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: took some guts with it too. And so just missing 237 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the heart a little bit on a quartering two shot 238 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: can result in you catching everything else so and probably 239 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: probably just the one lung too, right, and those deer 240 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: notoriously can can last longer than you would think it does. Yeah, luckily, Uh, 241 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: everything inside of him was soup and it had pulled up, 242 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: and he left me a pretty good train ill um, 243 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: so I was able to pick up the trail and 244 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: find him. I had to be more aggressive than I 245 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: wanted to, though, knowing that after I jumped out of 246 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: his bed it was a liver hit. You'd like to 247 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: give those year ideally, you know, three or four or 248 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: five hours. But we had rain coming at one am. 249 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: So if I was going to find him based off blood, um, 250 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: I was going to have to go in sooner than 251 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: I wanted. But it worked out, thankfully. Yeah, he sure did. 252 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: What was that moment like when you did walk up 253 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: on him? Man, it was a happy moment. In the 254 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: last year I've gotten married, I moved into a new house. 255 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: I saw my favorite team, the Vikings play, I saw 256 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: my favorite country artist, Garth Brooks playing, and just nothing 257 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: can replicate this like that. There's just no other thing 258 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: in the world that can give you this kind of feeling, like, 259 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: don't let your wife hear that. Oh man, that is 260 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. Man. When you sent me 261 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: that picture, I just freaked that he is. Uh. If 262 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: if anyone listening right now hasn't seen this deer, he 263 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: got a head over to either Spencer social media or 264 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: the Wired Hunt Facebook page and check out this buck. Um. 265 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Just a beautiful, beautiful deer. I mean, and and just 266 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, he's a he's an eight 267 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: pointer basically with junk um. Just a monstrous, massive eight 268 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: point with flyers off his twos and these crazy huge 269 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: brave tins. And and not to mention maybe as impressive, 270 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm not more impressive is he he is so mature. 271 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean that one picture where you've got him pointed 272 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: towards the camera, his his face just kind of smushes 273 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: into his huge neck and chest. I mean, just a 274 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: brahma bowl of a deer as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, 275 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: and and so like I said, I knew this dear 276 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: from h and at that time, I thought he was 277 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: probably three and a half or four and a half, 278 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: making him six and a half or seven and a half. Now, um, 279 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: he scored one sixty six and two eighths and that 280 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: was bigger than I thought when I when I locked 281 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: up him, and I was thinking one fifties because he 282 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: is an eight point where it's hard to you know, 283 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: reach any higher than that. Um, but his width and 284 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: in the extra stuff he had going on pushing to 285 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: that point? Was that net or gross? That was his 286 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: girls score? Was the one six to eight? Yeah, I 287 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: was gonna say, shoot, I mean from looking at these pictures, 288 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I would have guessed bigger than that, Like when you 289 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: you sent me an original estimation that was higher than that, 290 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: and I believe you. I was like, holy smokes, this 291 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: he had no doubt. This thing looks looks like a 292 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Booner plus some. But so I was surprised to hear 293 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: when that when the final came in at one sixties. 294 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Either I mean that's gosh, just a giant deer sixty 295 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: six in main frame eight point or you get kidding me? 296 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: Um man, I'm just uh, I'm very happy for you, dude. Awesome, 297 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: awesome hunt. Way to get it done. Um Now, this 298 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: is RUT Radio and we are trying to figure out, 299 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, what's happening right now? Why are things happening 300 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: right now? So? Can you do you have any like 301 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: have you had time to analyze the situation at all? 302 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Why do you think movement was the way it was 303 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: those two days you were hunting? That was pretty good? 304 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Why do you think you killed him? Was there any 305 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, outside condition or any other factor you can 306 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: point to. I think it's a combination with a couple 307 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: of things. UM. One of the big ones being is 308 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: just the low, low pressure. UM. Typically i'd be in 309 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: there in June hanging a camera or hanging you know, 310 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: three or four cameras. Uh, I'd be in there in 311 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: July hanging stands. I'd be in there in August checking cameras. 312 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: And I didn't do any of that. I mean when 313 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: I killed him, that was literally literally my second time 314 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: on the property this year. UM. As far as why 315 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: they were moving so well, other reasons. One, I think 316 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: it's just been the stability and the mild conditions. UM. 317 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: We have been in this long stretch now of like 318 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: mid sixties for high and um like high forties for 319 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: a low and and I think that just kept him 320 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: on you know, any kind of pattern. It didn't mess 321 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: with at all. We didn't have like any crazy rain 322 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: storms or you know, a hundred degree days and stuff. 323 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: Like that. And then the stability part, as you said, Um, 324 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: all the crops in that area you have have kind 325 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: of stayed how they are. We haven't had anybody cutting 326 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: silage yet or taking it beans and taking out beans 327 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: at this point. Um, so I think those tears just 328 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: felt really comfortable moving around. Yeah. So, uh so, Spencer, 329 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, how would you 330 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: rate the deer activity that night, one sixty two days. Yeah, 331 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: I think that's spot on. Well, uh, awesome, awesome stuff, dude. 332 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: So I want to say two things here. Number One, 333 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: I'm proud to say that I am forcing you into 334 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: having a longer rut radio episode than you typically like 335 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: you are now approaching. By the time this is all 336 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: said and done, because I know how long the usual 337 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: things go, you're gonna be approaching regular Wired to Hunt 338 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: episode length, which I know you'd like to rag on 339 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: us about. So I got you, I got you there, 340 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: And second, would that be in the case, I guess 341 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: we should probably move on to our our regularly scheduled programming. So, 342 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: so what do we have in store? What we started 343 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: in New York with David Grizzle from Tagg and Break, 344 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: and then we go to northern Minnesota to talk to 345 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Mike Fitzgerald from Bow Hunter Die. Then we talked to 346 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Lindsay Thomas Jr. Of q d M A and Georgia, 347 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: and then we go to Oklahoma to talk to Clay 348 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: Forest of Stewart Ranch Outfitters. Awesome, Well, I'm excited to 349 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: hear these. I I will give you a ten to 350 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: fifteen second Michigan RUT Radio update. I guess since I'm here. Um, 351 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: this past weekend was Opening weekend in Michigan. We had 352 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: these decently cooler temperatures that we were, you know, seeing 353 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: in the forecast is cold front finally draft from like 354 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: the eighties into the mid sixties. It resulted in pretty 355 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: good movement. Um. I've heard from a number of people 356 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: across the state that movement was pretty decent, maybe not excellent, 357 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: but pretty good. Um. I saw a lot of doze 358 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: nobucks on Opening night, and UM, that's kind of what's 359 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: looking like the rest of the week. It's kind of 360 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: middling temperatures, mid sixties, some bumping up in the seventies. 361 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: So I'm not expecting terrific hunting conditions, but I'm anxiously 362 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: awaiting the next cold front. So so that's all I got. Sponsor. Well, uh, 363 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: I will leave it with this. In on our intro, 364 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: I had a friend of my dad tell me. He said, man, 365 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: you shot a huge turkey this here, and shot a 366 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: big buck and you got married. It's all downhill from here. Yeah, 367 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: going to be a long fall. Now. I think you 368 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: are absolutely right. So you don't even need to bother 369 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: hunting anymore. You can just you can just record podcast 370 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: episodes from here on Outkay alright, buddy, doculator doc you 371 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: next week mark. Before we get to our first update, though, 372 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: let's pause for a word from our sponsors at sitkot 373 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: here and joining us this week is sick ambassador Alex Templeton, 374 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: who tells us about some much needed tree stand therapy 375 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: after a long week of elk hunting. So I was 376 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: invited on a trip with one of my good friends 377 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: out to Colorado for the month of September in two 378 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: thousand and fourt teen, and our plan was to spend 379 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: almost a whole month out there bow hunting elk. And 380 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: this was my first experienced elk hunteam and um. After 381 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: hiking many many miles up and down the mountains of Colorado, 382 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: battling hot weather, cold weather, no bugles, and a bunch 383 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: of other factors. Um, I never ended up killing an elk, 384 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: and I was super disappointed in myself. Obviously, I wanted 385 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: to go out there and get it done, and I 386 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: couldn't do it, and came back home to Missouri, and 387 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: on my very first sit back at home in a 388 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: tree stand, I ended up killing the biggest year I 389 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: had ever killed with my bow. Um it was a 390 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: buck that I had been watching all summer named Brows, 391 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and he had nine and a half inch brow times 392 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: on both sides. And you know it was I went 393 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: from the lowest of lows to the highest of highs 394 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: and a matter of one sit back in my stand. 395 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: So it was great. On Alex's hunt, she was wearing 396 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: sick As equinox pants and Celsie's jacket. If you'd like 397 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: to create a sick of story over your one, or 398 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: to learn more about sit because technical hunting apparel, visit 399 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: sitka gear dot com. And joining us on the line 400 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: first is David g Rizzo, the co founder of Tagg 401 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: and Bragg, now David in New York. What would you 402 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: say the deer activity has been on a scale of 403 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: one to ten lately. Honestly, in the past week, I 404 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be like an eight or and eight 405 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: and a half. And the only reason I don't push 406 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: it a little higher than that is because we didn't 407 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: see a ton of mature buck activity. But the deer 408 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: were out all over the place the past couple of 409 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: days for us UM, we had some great activity. The 410 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: food plots were heating up UM and we saw some 411 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: scrape activity, and we were seeing fourteen eighteen deer a night, 412 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: and where we're typically seeing you know, five to six 413 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be a good night up there for the 414 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: most part in New York. So UM this weekend, I mean, 415 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: the deer activity was was extremely high with those sounding 416 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: like some really productive sits. But is that what you 417 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: would expect for early October? Is this? You've been an 418 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: outlier for you guys, you know what, I think it's 419 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: been a little bit of an outlier. Honestly, we don't 420 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: typically see the movement pick up on our property up 421 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: there in New York until probably mid the late October 422 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: because it's a lot of thick cover, UM, so we 423 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of think of it as the breeding grounds. Once 424 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: those bucks start cruising and start expanding their home ranges. 425 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: We see a lot more deer activity in there. But 426 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: it was really intriguing to see this much activity, you know, 427 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: this early in the year. I think a lot of 428 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: it had to do with the food plots that we've 429 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: planted and really down on the those in UM. Given 430 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: them cover for the food plots so they're not pressured 431 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: from the road has definitely helped. But the weather conditions 432 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: this week and absolutely perfectly with the cold drug that 433 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: we saw having come through the Midwest and then hit 434 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: us up in New York. You mentioned the food plots 435 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Now, what do you have growing 436 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: there that you think that you've you know, been so 437 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: attracted too. So we have we have a combination of 438 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: a drasticist plan, a lot of turn ups um and 439 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: then clover and we found that the deer were the 440 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: turn ups, but ultimately they'd feed through the turn ups 441 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: and spend a majority of their time in the clover um, 442 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: which was you know, it's it's cool to see that 443 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: because we were up on a redneck line just kind 444 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: of observing a lot this weekend. We didn't really you know, 445 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: get too aggressive. We just wanted to see what the 446 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: deer movement was was about and where the deer were 447 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: coming out and what they were feeding on. And it 448 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: was pretty intriguing to see that they were they were 449 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: pretty sanctioned on the clover once they kind of established 450 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: themselves in the food clots. Is this a new pattern 451 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: for them hitting the food plots so hard or is 452 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: this something you've been seeing for the last month. It's uh, 453 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: the last month. They're hitting the food plots pretty hard. 454 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: I would say that the um daylight activity has really 455 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: ramped up in the last week or so. And you know, 456 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: once again, I think a lot of that is because 457 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: of how much how colber uh it got over the 458 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: last week. We we had two or three days in 459 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: a row of a frost in the morning up in 460 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: New York. So the deer the morning activity was extremely high, 461 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: which which I was pretty surprised about. Actually, I mean, 462 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: we were seeing a lot of beer between like seven 463 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning and and nine thirty. Seven thirty 464 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: and nine thirty in the morning, we were seeing probably 465 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: a peak a bulk of the activity for the day, 466 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: and that you know, in that period of time, and 467 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: then as it warmed up over the last couple of days, 468 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, the movement in the afternoon. You seemed to 469 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: get closer and closer to dark um where you know, 470 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: we we sat on Saturday just to fit, but it 471 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: was it wasn't even the season yet. We we just 472 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: jumped up, jumped up in the red muck um to 473 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: to kind of, uh, just look over the food plots 474 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: and see where the deer are moving for opening day 475 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday and um, we saw a kind of deer 476 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: starting at like five thirty six o'clock in the afternoon, 477 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: so they're on their feet pretty early. When it was 478 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: pulled out, you mentioned that the deer activity has been great, 479 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: but not so much for buck activity. What do you 480 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: think those mature bucks are doing right now if you're 481 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: not seeing them in daylight? You know, I think there's 482 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: still than tight um. I think they're just that we're 483 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: starting to see they're kind of just breaking off of 484 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: the younger bachelor groups that they were they were um 485 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: with throughout the summertime. So a lot of the mature 486 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: bucks that we're seeing on timer now are by themselves, 487 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of the younger box are still together 488 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: that we're seeing. You know that we've kind of observed 489 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: over the weekend. So I think they're just kind of 490 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: coming into their own. They're really starting to feel, you know, 491 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: feel their hard horns. They're starting to feel their hormones 492 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: and stuff. Um, and they're kind of mentioning themselves because 493 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: you know, they know that they can feel with the 494 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks is gonna bring well going forward? 495 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: David in New York, what do you expect the buck 496 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: activity to be on the scale of one to ten 497 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: in this coming week? Honestly, this week, um, I think 498 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: it's the buck activity is going to go down to 499 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: like a five or six. Especially with the warmer temperatures, 500 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: I think you're going to start to see a lot 501 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: more um night activity. You know, the box, especially the 502 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: mature ones are gonna start and continue to be more nocturnal. Um. 503 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: And you know, we're we're at this point we're going 504 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: to kind of sit back and wait for that next 505 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: little cold spell to come in or rain front or 506 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: something just just to kind of change up the weather 507 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: patterns a little bit, so hopefully starts something and get 508 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: these ducks moving a little bit more well. I will 509 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: be watching for some Tagg and Bragg videos and look 510 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: forward the rest of you guys this season. Thanks for 511 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: joining me, David awesome Sconcer. I appreciate you having a 512 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: fun okay and joining us on the line. Next is 513 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: bow Hunter Died team member Mike Fitzgerald. Now, Mike in Minnesota. 514 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: What would you say that dear, activity has been on 515 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: the scale of one to ten lately, I would say 516 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: is this last week here, I would put it probably 517 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: at a seven. Um. You know, we're kind of early 518 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: October here approaching the quote unquote lull um. But I've 519 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: been seeing some pretty good activity on my cameras and 520 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: and talking with people around the state through our forums. 521 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: It seems like guys are seeing some buck activity more 522 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: so than than previous years. Well, Mike, I know you 523 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: hunt in northern Minnesota. Just for reference to our listeners, 524 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: will you explain the kind of um setups that you 525 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: have there and what the properties look like that you 526 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: hunt on. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm up here. I'm about 527 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: fourteen miles from the Canadian border near eating Minnesota, UM, 528 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: and we're the you know, definition of big woods wilderness hunting. 529 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Our densities aren't aren't that great compared to other areas 530 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: of the state, but it's just a byproduct of the 531 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: of the environment that we're in. Um. The closest thing 532 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: that I have to concentrated food source up here would 533 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: be a clear cut um that the forest service or 534 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: private properties have done. Um. The deer survive entirely on 535 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: natural prowls that are hardly even food plots around here. 536 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: But if you take a drone shot or a satellite 537 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: image of our area, it's, uh, it's all trees. It's 538 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: mostly pine, but we have some aspen and berg in there, 539 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: very very few um oaks. There's a couple of scrub 540 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: oaks on the property that the our resort sits on here. Um. 541 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: And when I say very few, I mean there's like 542 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: four trees that I think I've ever found in that years. 543 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: So they're uh, they have a lot of natural brows 544 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: they like to feed on, you know, hazel nut. Hazel 545 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: nut bushes is uh one of their favorite things this 546 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: time of year, now that their leaves are dry dropping. Um. 547 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, those young aspen trees get hammered pretty hard 548 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: from how through through the winter, really, so that's where 549 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: those clear cuts come in handy a lot. Well, are 550 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: you seeing any October sign yet? As far as scrapes 551 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: and rubs. I'm finding a few of them. Um. No, 552 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: no big concentrations UM in my area. And again with 553 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: the dear density that I have a lot of the 554 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: sign I see those scrapes and rubs have more to 555 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: do with the bucks particular personality. I've had a buck 556 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: in this area a few years back that was just 557 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: a scrape making machine and come like the second week 558 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: of October, through the ruts, you couldn't walk fifty yards 559 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: in any direction without running into one of his scrapes. 560 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: And ever since uh I shot him. He uh there, 561 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: I haven't found nearly the concentration of scrapes that that 562 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: I did when he was around. Um, but they're they're 563 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: starting to show up. I'm seeing a little bit of activities. 564 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm actually seeing a lot more daytime UM buck activity 565 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: this year than previous years, and so that that makes 566 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: hopeful And that's probably why I said this timing a 567 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: seven out of ten is uh, we're just not used 568 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: to seeing mature bucks during daylight, So it's promising. Well, 569 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: you talked about the randomness of food sources. UM, does 570 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: that equate to a randomness in bed into or is 571 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: that usually the same? Yeah? There for most of the season, 572 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: they can essentially they can feed anywhere, they can bed 573 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: anywhere they have you know, like whitetails, anywhere they like 574 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: to have comfort of thick cover. But you can find 575 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: that within a hundred yards circumference of just about anywhere 576 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: that you're standing. Um, as the temperatures drop, you can 577 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: find them bedding on self facing slopes a little bit more. 578 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: Um if we have a hot um early fall week. UM. 579 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: The opposite of that, you get them on those ridges 580 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: facing north where they get a little bit more shade 581 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: throughout the day. Um. But outside of that, it's it's hard. 582 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: If you're gonna put some miles on to get back 583 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: into the woods, you're gonna bump deer. There's just no 584 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: way around it. How about going forward, what do you 585 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: think that dear activity is going to be in a 586 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in this coming week or so? UM, 587 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: I would probably maybe drop it two of five or six. Um. 588 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: We're kind of hitting that, you know, whether you buy 589 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: into the Cobra lowell or not, we're hitting that time 590 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: where they're really starting to adjust. Bucks are gonna start 591 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: doing a lot of different travelings. So this is uh, 592 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, over the next week or two, you might 593 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: start seeing some of these bucks that you haven't seen, 594 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: you haven't been on your cameras, some new bucks, and 595 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: the ones that have been there, Uh, they might be 596 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: disappearing for a week or so. It seems as we 597 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: started approaching towards that end of October, they get a 598 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: little bit of anxiousness and then they'll they'll go for 599 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: a few days and they'll take a big loop somewhere 600 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: into a new area just to they're they're starting to 601 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: get jones and for that first dough to come in, 602 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: and no, they'll go anywhere where they think they might 603 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: find that dough. All right, Well, thanks for joining me, Mike, 604 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: and good luck in the big woods this fall. Hey, 605 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: thanks that they appreciated. Before we get to our next color, 606 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: they'll let's pause to thank our sponsors at White Tail Properties. 607 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: And this week with white Tail Properties, we are joined 608 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: by andrews Old, who's going to be telling us about 609 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: what advice he has for buyers we're looking at land 610 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: in a competitive market like Illinois. 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If you'd like to learn more and 628 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: to see the property that Andrew currently has listed for sale, 629 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: visit white tail properties dot com backslash Schultz that's s 630 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: h U l t z okay and joining us on 631 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: the line. Next is Lindsay Thomas Jr. The director of 632 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Communications for q d M A. Now Lindsay and Georgia, 633 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: what would you say that dear activity has been lately? 634 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, Spencer, I'd say 635 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: on a on a one of ten scale, We've got 636 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: a couple of different things going on right now. I'd 637 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: say the activity has been higher, more of a four 638 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 1: to five in coastal Georgia where the rut is going 639 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: to be happening sooner. We have a mid October to 640 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: late October rut in our coastal counties, so things are 641 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: already picking up there. Uh. In the rest of the state, 642 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little uh less optimistic in terms of activity, 643 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: more of a two to three. Um, it's still fairly dry. 644 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: We are still a few weeks off from the rut 645 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: in most of Georgia, which is going to be in 646 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: early to mid November, and some areas of the state, 647 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: like Southwest Georgia, where it's even later into December. So 648 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: right now in terms of rud activity, what that's on 649 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the coast where they're you know, approaching so soon. Um, 650 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: But most of the rest of the state is still waiting. 651 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: All right. Well, you talked about it being dry right now, 652 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: is the whole state feeling that effect? Even where those 653 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: deer running in Yes, Um, you know, the Hurricane Irmura 654 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: passed through on September eleven, UH did a lot of damage, 655 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: of course, and dumped a ton of rain. But that's 656 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: the last rain we've had uh in Georgia, and there's 657 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: not any in the forecast for the next several days, 658 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: so things are starting to get dry again quickly. Uh. 659 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: Folks who had already planted food plots, those food plots 660 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: are going to be struggling here soon. And then I 661 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: know a lot of people too that were waiting to 662 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: plant until there was some more moisture on the horizon, 663 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: and they're still waiting. Um, We've got a bumper acorn crop, 664 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: so you know, there's plenty of food out there. It's 665 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: not a critical situation. We're not back in serious drought condition, 666 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: but it's definitely dry, and of course walking in the woods, 667 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: you know, hunters know it's it's sounds like you're walking 668 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: on potato chips getting into your tree stand But uh, 669 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: not critical from a drought standpoint yet, but definitely getting 670 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: dry well water hunters seeing in the area for your 671 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: typical running sign as far as scrapes and robs again, 672 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: seeing more of that right now. I was down at 673 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: my family's land in southeast Georgia on September uh, and 674 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: did some bow hunting. It was still very hot and 675 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of water still around from the hurricane. 676 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: But there were um scrapes evident again like doubt. Like 677 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: I said, down there in coastal Georgia, we have a 678 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: mid October rut peak to to mid to late October, 679 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: so the rubs and scrapes were already happening. Um. And 680 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: you know a lot of scrapes that I saw had 681 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: water standing in them, uh and did not appear to 682 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: have been worked since Irma passed through on September eleven. 683 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: I've talked to some other friends who have got lots 684 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: of trail camera pictures of bucks working scrapes in coastal 685 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Georgia over the last week or two. Uh, even some 686 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: folks who believed they saw bucks tending some doves already 687 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: in coastal Georgia. Uh. So you know, we're approaching the 688 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: peak on that in that area of the state. Um. 689 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: Elsewhere I'm in't you know, where I live is in 690 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: mid to North Georgia, and most hunters I've talked to 691 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: in those areas are seeing what I'm seeing here, which 692 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: is some very tentative early uh scrape activity just a few, 693 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, uh, a few scrapes here and they're being 694 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: worked and only lightly uh in a few rubs out there. UM. 695 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: Hank Forrester, who's our hunting heritage programs manager, was hunting 696 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: this weekend with a person he was guiding who's a 697 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: new hunter, and that was part of our field of 698 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: fork program and they killed. Uh. Evan who was the hunter, 699 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: killed his first dear. It was a nice two and 700 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: a half year old buck here in North Georgia, and 701 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 1: Hank said the buck was just sort of meandering around, 702 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: feeding on acorns and no tarsal stainding whatsoever. Uh. Myself 703 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: hunting this weekend, did not see any bucks, but didn't 704 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: get a field that really much rud activities to speak of. 705 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: Brian Grossman, who works with me, was hunting a public 706 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: land hunt with his daughter this weekend in West Georgia. 707 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: Same thing, very sparse, uh, scrape and rub activity right now. 708 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: So again, we're looking at a early to mid November 709 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: rut peaks, so we're several weeks out from really getting 710 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: hot and heavy, but it is beginning to pick up. Lynda, 711 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: Let's see what hypothetical. Let's see that, UM, the state 712 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: gets an inch of rain here this next week. How 713 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: does that change thing for hunters and change things for deer? 714 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: For hunters, a lot of hunters a gonna be happy. 715 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: They're either gonna be planning food plots that they were 716 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: waiting to plant, or food plots that were in the 717 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: ground are going to green up. Um. So that will 718 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: certainly change the game in terms of hunting strategy around 719 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: food food plots, particularly as we go into the approach 720 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: of our opening of gun season around October one. Um. 721 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: But we've got a bump for acorn crop, particularly white oaks, 722 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: and generally, what I found is if you've got those 723 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: in the woods and they're falling, deer are generally going 724 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: to choose those before they're gonna shoose food plots. So 725 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: I think from a strategy standpoint, you need to pay 726 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: attention to that. Uh, if you've got white oaks in 727 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: your area, and I think this would go for most 728 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: of the southeast here, UM, don't continue to expect your 729 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: food plot to be an attraction. Watch the brows pressure 730 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: on the food plot. And if you're not seeing the 731 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: brows pressure, I wouldn't be hunting there or hunting patterns 732 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: around those plots until you begin to see pressure build there. Uh, 733 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: the deer is gonna be where the acorns are falling. Well, 734 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: we just talked a little bit about what the deer 735 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: activity might turn into. But what do you think on 736 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten that deer activity is 737 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: going to be in the sex week or so. We've 738 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: got some cool temperatures now where we did not have 739 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: those before. Um, and I think, um, it's gonna be 740 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: nicer to be in the woods, but it's gonna be 741 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna be seeing more rud activity coming on in 742 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: the next week or two. I'm hoping you know, by 743 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: next week we're gonna be looking at a uh five 744 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: to six on deer activity, and in most of the 745 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: Middle and North Georgia and coastal Georgia should be seeing 746 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: uh up in in the sevens. I would guess, um 747 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: by next week and then by the approach of opening 748 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: day have gun season on the twenty one, should be 749 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: you know eight or nine. That's gonna be right in 750 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: the peak of of breeding for most of coastal Georgia. Well, Nzi, 751 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: you're clearly is plugged in as anybody there, so thank 752 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: you for joining me this week. And I hope you 753 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: guys get that rain. Thanks a lot, Spencer, good luck 754 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: to you too, and joining us on the line. Last 755 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: is Clay Forest, the manager of Stuart Ranch Outfitters in Oklahoma. Now, Clay, 756 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: what would you say the dear activity has been on 757 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: a skille of one to ten lately. Uh, in the 758 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: last week or ten days, Uh, it's picked up. I 759 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: call it probably um, probably about four, maybe as five 760 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: right now. Um. I'm in the southwest part of the state. 761 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: And uh we uh, we had a really good summer 762 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: as far as rainfall, and we weren't seeing a lot 763 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: of deer movement coming to protein or or corn feeders 764 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: all summer ubbily, just because of the natural vegetation out there. 765 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: So um, in about the last week, we've had a 766 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: week coming up. Uh, and that's really increased our hard 767 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: gear movement in the last couple week or ten days 768 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: previous to that weak coming up, what were the deer 769 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: hitting for food sources? Uh? Just natural vegetation. Like I said, 770 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: we uh we were. We have a lot of green 771 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: barers pretty popular around here. Uh. We've got just a 772 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: lot of just native grasses for lack of a better words, 773 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: we don't have much of a mass drop here. So 774 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: do you really stay in the CRP or big big 775 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: native glass fields and that's kind of where the bed 776 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: and live pretty much all summer long. Well, are those 777 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: wheat fields what you will be queuing in on basically 778 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: throughout the season or does that change? Uh? No, that's 779 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: that's that's our main point of interest. Travel corridors coming 780 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: in and out of wheat fields do a lot of glassing, 781 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, getting up on big big high points and 782 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: glass and on wheat field. So that's that's definitely our 783 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: our main focus. As far as trying to get big 784 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: deer killed throughout the season. Are you see and he 785 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: signed making papro right now. As far as rubs and scrapes, Uh, 786 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: not really. Um it's kind of like I said in 787 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: the beginning, Um he we really kind of struggled just 788 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: to see deer in general. Uh this summer. So we 789 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: had close to nine somewhere between nine and twelve inches 790 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: rain from about May fifteen to basically last week. And uh, 791 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: some of the grass out here is over our head, 792 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: so really seeing a lot of sign Uh. It has 793 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: been kind of detrimental as far as that, just because 794 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: of what my mother nature did this summer. UM, so 795 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: not really you know in a long rambling answer, Well, 796 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: Clay at Stewart Ranch Outfitters there, I know you guys 797 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: run a lot of cattle. How does that affect the 798 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: deer movement? When you guys start moving those cattle around? 799 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: Do you see the deer move into where those cattle 800 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: just came off of? Uh? We do, you know? And 801 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: and it's a really cohesive unit for us. UM as 802 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: far as the cattle in the deer. I mean there 803 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: are times where UM, cattle might kind of deter some 804 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: deer hunting, but that's very very small percentage. So UM 805 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: to your point, cattle coming off some a pasture where 806 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: it's been graced down, we'll definitely see more dear sign 807 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: uh in that pastures because it's been been graced off 808 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: previous previous two. So UM, we really do try to 809 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: do a good job as far as manage and where 810 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: cattle are going to be UM in relat relation to 811 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: UH where our deer hunting areas are, our primary deer 812 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: hunting areas are at. So we try to run our 813 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: cattle there in the summertime and to get them off 814 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: for the fall of the winter. So we can hunt 815 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: and not have any worries about a cow coming underneath 816 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: the stand or something like that. But it really works 817 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: well for us. We do try to do a good 818 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: job of that. Now, going forward to the sext week 819 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that dear activity is 820 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: going to be in Oklahoma? On the skill of one 821 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: to ten UM, I'm gonna probably put it down a four, 822 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: maybe a five. Um. We're expect a little bit more 823 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: rain this week like that week passers up. It's greened 824 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: up pretty well. UM in the last like I said, 825 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: about ten days, so I would expect to a lot 826 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: of deer in those green fields. UM. Movement pretty decent. 827 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: So I would probably put it about a four to five. Luckily, 828 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing the pictures from Stewart Ranch 829 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: and good luck this fall. Thanks Spencer, appreciate it. And 830 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: that concludes this week's episode of Wire to Hunt's Brought Radio. 831 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: We'd like to thank our sponsors at Sitka white Tail Properties, 832 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: Matthews Yeti, Ontara, White Tail Institute, Maven and Trophy Ridge. 833 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: And if you'd like to see that buckeend just harvested, 834 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: check out my instagram at Spencer New Heart. We thank 835 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: you all for listening, and as always, stay weird to hunt.