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Speaker 1: in the show, but first, Ojo. The forty nine Ers

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Speaker 4: Obviously, the relationship that he has with Shanahan is one

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Speaker 1: But I like this higher because Kyle and Raheem are

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, obviously you guys brought to my attention

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Speaker 1: They say they're gonna look into it. Yeah, so they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you want to do that. On

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a conversation that we a question that

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Speaker 4: But obviously management has to understand if you have a

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Speaker 4: you just haven't you haven't had the opportunity to win it,

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Speaker 4: Scrapping it and trying to bring another regime in. I

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Speaker 4: don't I don't think that's I don't think that's the

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Speaker 3: It's not as easy as it seems.

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Speaker 4: It's not as easy as as Shanahan has made it

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Speaker 4: and made it look. He's a phenomenal coach and one

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Speaker 2: I agree, O Joe.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is that if you look at Seattle,

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Speaker 1: back on Joe. They had ten point leads. Yes games,

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Speaker 3: You know, the birth of a child is important.

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Speaker 1: You see, Now, this happened in twenty three. Why didn't

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Speaker 1: You done fired him? Okay, he made a mistake. Everybody

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Speaker 4: I mean he can do the same exact thing, especially

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Speaker 4: Whatever situations need to be solved, he can solve the remotely.

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Speaker 1: A player, don't oh Joe. He don't have no impact

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Speaker 2: He comes across the waiver whire.

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Speaker 1: If somebody wants to call and say we want to

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Speaker 2: Now you get rid of that. You try to put

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Speaker 1: It's excuse me, it's twenty twenty six, Joe, So you

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Speaker 3: There, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It gets to that point.

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Speaker 1: Whatever is it best for your situation? And everybody I know,

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Speaker 2: To exactly now. I'll do.

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Speaker 4: I'll do with necessary on my end, and I'll hold

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Speaker 1: Mike, Grandma, O Joe, you know what my granny told me,

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Speaker 2: I'm gone. Ain't nothing you can do, ain't nothing you

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here when you get here. I ain't

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Speaker 1: I under we haven't been a part of the NFL culture.

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Speaker 1: I think what hurts Look, what's gonna hurt him more

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Speaker 2: Because then it's everything that Seattle gave him. He could

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Speaker 1: He could have give him an incentive laden contract. I

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Speaker 1: He could have done that. Okay, he made a mistake.

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Speaker 1: He's not the first. Okay, let that be. Let that

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Speaker 2: It's trying to.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me this is what they're doing. They're

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Speaker 3: Catley the owner.

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Speaker 1: Of course they do ojo. But it's the same thing

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Speaker 1: why Roger Cadell make between sixty and one hundred million

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Speaker 2: Ojoe Yeah, boom boo boom. Yeah. They've been doing this

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Speaker 1: While y'all booing, you study watching forty eight million, watch

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Speaker 4: the eighth pick in the draft, in the first round

437
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 4: or not. I'm gonna have you sit because I know

438
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 4: what I'm getting out of Sam based on what he

439
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 4: just did with us this season.

440
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: I'm not letting him walk out that door.

441
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 4: I don't care how early we picked you, So that

442
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 4: that kind of that that that that's that's mind botteling

443
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 4: to me.

444
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: If I want to get rid of you, I can

445
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: find a host of reasons. Okay, they say they want

446
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: somebody that call plays Byron Left, which call plays How

447
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 1: many jobs in the has he gotten?

448
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Now, how many guys.

449
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: They interview with Philip Rivers, they interview with guy that's

450
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: never called plays, Brian Left, which called.

451
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 4: Plays with the team that one. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, But again,

452
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: we steadily fighting for positions that they really don't want

453
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 4: us in.

454
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: Have we not?

455
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 3: Do we not understand that?

456
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,239
Speaker 4: Yet we continue, we continue to fight for positions that

457
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: they don't want us in. And we were consistently beg

458
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 4: and big and clawn and clawing, and that they continuously

459
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 4: showing you, purposely showing you that, I mean, we really

460
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 4: don't we really don't want you guys in these positions

461
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 4: of power and being leader of men. Office of Coordinators, yes, okay,

462
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 4: defensive coordinators, yes, okay, but.

463
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 1: They's a whole lot of it's not a whole lot

464
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: of black officsive coordinators, that's the most of them.

465
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: Oo are deficive coordinators. Or they're position.

466
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: Coaches, they're running back coach, their wide receiver coach.

467
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, or tight end coach.

468
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't get elevated on that side of the football,

469
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: not as it not as readily as a dB coach

470
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: linebacker coach get elevated to decoordinated who then gets turned.

471
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: But see, let me look, do you remember, uh I

472
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: give a prime example and chat stay with me, and

473
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: I know y'all remember this. Bill O'Brien was the head

474
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: coach of the ten of the t of the Houston Texas.

475
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: Do y'all remember.

476
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: When he demoted Romeo Canal elevated Mike Rabel because it

477
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: would look better for Mike Brabel getting a head coaching

478
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: job as a DC that he would have lined back

479
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: a coach. He demoted Romeo. Romeo was I think he

480
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: was a sensual maybe linebacker coach Brabel gets the job

481
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. What did they do with Joe? They promoted

482
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: repromoted Romeo Canal to DC.

483
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: You did it? You see what it is?

484
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: They play a game within the game and if you

485
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 4: if you can see it, if you understand it from

486
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 4: far way, you know what they're doing. That's why that's

487
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: for the for the life of me, I don't understand.

488
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: I know it would be dope for certain coaches. You,

489
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlins, Jamarvin Lewis, is you, Hugh Jackson's all those

490
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 4: that have had the opportunity the coach at the highest

491
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: level that that have gotten opportunity to do so. But

492
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 4: the fact in the game that they play and in

493
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: showing you clear as day, not even hiding it. It's

494
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: right there in plain sight to see that we really

495
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 4: don't want you guys in positions of power as leaders

496
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 4: of men.

497
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: We just don't like it. We just don't.

498
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 4: And we steady every year we come around when the

499
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 4: when the hiring site will come around, we sit here

500
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 4: and we'll be fussing.

501
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: When you argue all day in.

502
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: Hiring, well, God damn, they continue to let you know.

503
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 4: We don't want you, motherfuckers. We don't want you all

504
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 4: there in those positions. Why y'all keep crying about it?

505
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.

506
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Sometime I think I talk too much.

507
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: This is this is why. Uh, some of the stuff

508
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: that we don't get afforded, that's some other podcast get afforded.

509
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: I talked to you about it off it stuff. Yeah,

510
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, but it's because of this. I just

511
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: got to be I just got to be pruthful. I'm

512
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: not saying, Look, I don't have I don't have a

513
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't have any right because I think Mike Bravey

514
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: has done an unbelievable job. He took the Tennessee Titans

515
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship Game, and now in his first year,

516
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: he has a four win team. The year before he

517
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: got there in the Super Bowl, so there is no

518
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: questioning his ability to coach.

519
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: There ain't no questioning that.

520
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: But I just want I just want to part point

521
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: out things of how they move.

522
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: We're afraid to move like that.

523
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, I have a question, I mean, just a

524
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: un Let's say there's a woman something that everybody in

525
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 4: the check can relate to to give you a better understanding,

526
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 4: and you're trying to pursue this woman and she's given

527
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 4: you every sign in the book that you know what.

528
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: I don't like you. I don't see you in that manner.

529
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 4: I don't even want to deal with you. Matter of fact,

530
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 4: I don't even want to be your friend, let alone date.

531
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: Why am I continuously trying to feel that position knowing

532
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 4: she don't want me?

533
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to pursue a role.

534
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: That's first of all, I'm trying to pursue a role

535
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: that's not available to me.

536
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: It's vacant, but it's just not open to me.

537
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 4: So why am I fighting to be in that position

538
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: knowing they don't want me there? And then if they do,

539
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: put me there. They're not going to give me what

540
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 4: I need around me to be able to have success

541
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 4: at said position. Same thing with Lovey, Remember they fired love.

542
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: With the Bears.

543
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: Come on, man, it's and it's just it's it's uh.

544
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: Robert Lattail.

545
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: Any decent man who has witnessed the significant other have

546
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: a tough time after giving birds would have done the

547
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: same thing.

548
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: The NFL has made.

549
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: It part of people prioritize the game over their family.

550
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: You might win, but the bill always come. Do check

551
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: out that in the Lway dot for reference.

552
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: He's my line.

553
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of times what happened is that because

554
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: the significant of the partner, the white girlfriend, whatever the

555
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: case may be common law, because they've sacrificed so much

556
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: when you played, the hard part is, oh Joe, when

557
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: you stop playing because a lot of time, what they say,

558
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: I want to spend more time with my family. You

559
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: stop playing, and you don't spend more time with the family.

560
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: So they said, I understood why you was trying to

561
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: be the best you can possibly be, but what are

562
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: we doing now? And a lot of times, even if

563
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: you do try to spend more time, because there's so

564
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: much distance, you don't really know that person. You're two

565
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: different people because you spend so much time away, you

566
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: living with a stranger. The songs there's a stranger in

567
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: my house.

568
00:26:59,440 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: They do.

569
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: The NFL and most professional sports prioritize winning overall because

570
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: that's what it's about. Because this is what you made

571
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: it about. Because every time I say something, y'all tell

572
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: OJO and I, well, he didn't win. How many games

573
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: did he win? How many did this? How many games

574
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: did he win? So now, when people want to win

575
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: at all costs, and sometimes you deny family.

576
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: Friends and loved ones, you do go to as part

577
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: of the sacrifice.

578
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: But and a lot of times they use that against you.

579
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: They use that against players. They know you want to play,

580
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: and they'll use it against you. I just don't like

581
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't like the fact of no matter.

582
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that they bring this up

583
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: three years after the fact. You didn't mention it in

584
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: twenty three. You didn't mention it in twenty four, you

585
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: didn't mention it in twenty five.

586
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: You could have kept this.

587
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: You fired demand because you believe he made some critical errors.

588
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: I said, eras could be just.

589
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: There's one big error there's one big error that he

590
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: made on that I can't I came.

591
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: That was egregious, that was ridiculous.

592
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, if you, Ojo, if you want to fire for that, yeah, fire,

593
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: But you ain't got to mention this.

594
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: I ain't worried about that. I ain't worried about that.

595
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: But if you and who.

596
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Else knew about? First of all, Ojo, who knew that?

597
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: If if if I, if something happens between you and Cambodia,

598
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: only you and Cambodia know, But you tell me. Somebody

599
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: in that Minnesota organization had to tell him.

600
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: Because here's the problem that you run into, Ojo.

601
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: You tell Okay, I told what I told you, Man,

602
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: I told I ain't tell nobody, but up up till

603
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: one person, that one person tell ten people. Now there's

604
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: twelve people that know what only Cambodia and UK should know.

605
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: O Jo, Cambodia and UH were the only ones supposed

606
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: to be known.

607
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: Well, you know, a man, let me tell you what

608
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: God tell you something, man, Cause if you want to

609
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: get any news the fact man, one man television, that's how.

610
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: You get your news out.

611
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh Joe, we get back to this topic. We

612
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: got a very very special guest joining us. You see,

613
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: he got the bells bellt joining us. We got shoeshoe cat.

614
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: He came through. Hey, hey, he did what he did?

615
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: What he did.

616
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: He walked, He walked him down and put and put

617
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: that shot on him. And he's like, hey, dude, had

618
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: fourteen seconds left, don't you You gave the five. Yeah,

619
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: but but but he had a patch over out there

620
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: was clothed for the weekend.

621
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: He couldn't see that left fire was clothed.

622
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 5: Man, bro I don't know, but that was just a crazy, crazy,

623
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 5: crazy environment. Man like me winning the world title, me

624
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 5: win the worst title in New York excuse me, new

625
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 5: York City MSG you home town, New York City. Man,

626
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 5: I felt like that right there. It was just amazing

627
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: for me to get the knockout like that in the

628
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: fight that it was like a dream come true. Happened

629
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 5: any better way?

630
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: Hey, shoot, I know you went in, you went into

631
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: you went into camp.

632
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: Obviously y'all came in with a game plan going to fight,

633
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, brother, brother Carlos cash or right. At any

634
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: point in the fight, did you think in the early

635
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 4: round did you get hurt? Were you a little bit

636
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: more cautious than were you able to Did you have

637
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: to change the game plan you went into it with

638
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: after you got hit, you know.

639
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 5: A little bit, because I felt like, I think I

640
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 5: can't remember was the fourth ront where I like he

641
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: kind of hit like kind of in the back of

642
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 5: the head.

643
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: He clipped a little bit and I lost my equilibrium

644
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 6: a little bit, like yeah, yeah, my eyes and everything.

645
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't dizzy, but my legs, my back was gone.

646
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like I had.

647
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: Right right.

648
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: But in those moments, you know, as like as a champion,

649
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: my mom said, like, I know, I can't panic.

650
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: I gotta say it.

651
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 5: How to get back my faculties together and make sure

652
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 5: like I don't get hit onhing crazy because he came

653
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: back swarming. Yes, in that moment, I was like, all right,

654
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 5: I'm good, throw some shots back and just got myself back.

655
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: So but I changed. I definitely did change my approach

656
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: because I noticed when I was able to give him distance. Yes,

657
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: hunches were harder when I was give him distance. When

658
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 5: I was up close, I was able to smother his work.

659
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 5: He can get his punches off, and I was getting

660
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: my shot off crappy. I was like, all right, that's

661
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 5: what we're gonna do. We're gonna were gonna add a

662
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: little pressure onto them and break them down as the

663
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 5: rounds go on. And I think in then a round,

664
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: that's when I knew I was gonna get him out

665
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: in the next round.

666
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: So you already.

667
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: So that's because it looks like what you did, because

668
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: listening to you talk now is that you look, man,

669
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: I need to get I need to get in range

670
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: because I'm down range, man.

671
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: T and off.

672
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: Let me get inside and do some of this work

673
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: to take some of this. Don't let him put let

674
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: him get extension on these punches. What what you got inside?

675
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: Bro?

676
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: You started doing at worked and systematically you walked him down.

677
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: You broke him down.

678
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: So you mentioned the eighth round heading into the night,

679
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: did you know did you know you go get him

680
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: out of there?

681
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, My mentality was definitely getting up out of there

682
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: because I noticed with the approach that I changed up,

683
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: he didn't like it, and he was like, literally, I'm

684
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: just looking at his body. His body's getting red and

685
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: his punches are coming up like, you know, a little lazier.

686
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: And then at that point his power just wasn't there

687
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 5: at at you know, at most because I was smothering

688
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: him up and I was like, yeah, like he's really uncomfortable.

689
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: He don't like that. He don't like that. So the

690
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 5: ninth round, that's when I sweetly started to put pressure

691
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 5: on him and then add more power to my shots

692
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 5: and my combinations. And then that's when knew I was

693
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: gonna get up out of there. And one thing I

694
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 5: noticed about him, it was like a little rhythm whenever

695
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: I hit him, he throws right back. Hit him, hit

696
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 5: him with jackie throw jat right back. But right I

697
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: threw a jab, caught him. I knew he's gonna throw

698
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: a job right back. I flipped it boo him right hand,

699
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: and then I knew I caught him.

700
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: He tried, did he try to catch?

701
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: What is?

702
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 5: When I caut him the right hand, he was already

703
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 5: out that right here.

704
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: Caught him clean. He was already out. Yeah, you got

705
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: about the clean.

706
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 5: I know he was hurt until his arm fel limp

707
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: on the back of my neck. That's when I've hit

708
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 5: with the four piece boom boom, boom boom and dropped him.

709
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was a wonderful combination. I'm curious

710
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: for you, what's next. I mean, you got the WBC

711
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: featherweight title. Now who is it that you want to

712
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: see next?

713
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Man?

714
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: You know, well, you know I got a fellow champion

715
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: this fighting this weekend, Nick Ball. He's fighting O He's

716
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: fighting Brandon Figuaro. That's a good fight.

717
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: You know.

718
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 5: I would I would like to fight the winner of

719
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: either one of those guys. You know, I've been calling

720
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: out Nick Ball for the past year and a half.

721
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: We sent out offers, they declined offers. But now you know,

722
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 5: we got a little intensive now to throw to make

723
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 5: the fight happen. And then if not him, you know,

724
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: I got Rafa Espinosa. You know this, this the six

725
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 5: foot Mexican man man, and he's a really great fighter.

726
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 5: I would love to get the ring with him as

727
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 5: well too, he knows that. And uh then if not

728
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 5: him and Joel, I want to fight all the champions.

729
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 5: I want to unify.

730
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: You try to That's what my next question. You try

731
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: to unify this thing.

732
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: In this boxing game, and I'm just taking tired of it.

733
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 5: I'm I'm one of them guys that I want to

734
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 5: be in there putting with the best, and it's time

735
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 5: to get to show on the road. And continue to

736
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: make boxing entertaining and get the fans they want to see.

737
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 5: I want to be great. I'm to be known as

738
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 5: one of the greats and me taking that stuff to unify,

739
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 5: become the first uniview the world champion of four bell

740
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: era to do it. Yeah, I'm gonna be putting the

741
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: history books for the for the for the rest of

742
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: the days to come.

743
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: I like that shoot, but you did something that that

744
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: that that cash because here's the thing, the boxing fans

745
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: are gonna stay. You got to get the casual fans.

746
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: So when they see shoot, shoot, go by that. Yeah,

747
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: shoot by that action, because that's who you got to

748
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: convince to spend the sixty dollars to seventy dollars for

749
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: that pay per view. The hard line of the hard

750
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: don't you say, the people that like this week Science,

751
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna watch no matter what. It's the casual fans

752
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: that you got to get them to spend sixty seventy

753
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: eighty bucks.

754
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: On the bike.

755
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, well that's why I called the Shoot Show

756
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 5: the Shoes Show. Never you know what I'm saying. You know,

757
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: like I bring that action, That's what the Shooting Show

758
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 5: is all about. It is crowd peace performances. It is

759
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 5: NonStop action. It's either you know, it's real, it's real

760
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: boxing purists that they'll love it. But at the same time,

761
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 5: I got the aggressive Brownsville style with Mike Tyson, Mixes,

762
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: Zab Judish miss It, mix It, Riddick Bowl, Danvel Jacobs.

763
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, I mix all these

764
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 5: different guys in with my style because those are the

765
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: guys I looked up to since I was a little kid.

766
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 5: And right, there's a match made for like any type

767
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: of entertaining fight. So the SHOOTE shows will always will

768
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 5: always show up and show out every single time.

769
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: How did you get the how do you get the nickname? Shoot?

770
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 5: I wish I had the coolest story real, but I

771
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 5: understand it was just a nickname, you know what I'm saying.

772
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 5: You know how like you neighborhood around the hood, it's

773
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 5: like oh day they and new new and mins a

774
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 5: Shoeshoe and uh. But I learned that the name Shoe

775
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: is uh An Egyptian is the one who rises above all,

776
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: and I feel like that name is very fitting for

777
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 5: the things that I've been through in my life. You know,

778
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: with a lot of the doors being closed to my face,

779
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 5: me not being able to go to the Olympics when

780
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: I qualify for the for it, my brother passing and

781
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 5: him missing out on everything that we've promised ourselves that

782
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: we was going to share with one another in my

783
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: box and creating our lives. You know, It's just a

784
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 5: lot of things that was taken from me, and I

785
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 5: was able to rise above it because I always have faith.

786
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 5: I always talked to God and he always let me

787
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: know and kept me, kept me sure that listen, you

788
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 5: stay on this path, You're gonna get everything you're asking

789
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 5: for it. Just keep working, Just keep working no matter

790
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 5: what I throw at you with these obstacles, make you stronger.

791
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 5: I'm not closing these doors in front of your face

792
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 5: to discourage you, to make you stronger and build you.

793
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: And this is one of those things where I learned

794
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: like I'm one of his warriors, you know what I mean.

795
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 5: God's gonna put you through all those obstacles because You're

796
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 5: one of his warriors. And I accept that and I

797
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 5: take that on the chin. And now now I'm here

798
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 5: with the WBC title.

799
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 4: Hey, what's next? You won last night very convincing. When

800
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: you just won, you one convincingly.

801
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: What do you do now?

802
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: How much time do you take off when you get

803
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: back in the gym? How long do you let the

804
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: body rest? I mean when you were outside of boxing.

805
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: Well, to be honest, like I'm I'm I'm always in

806
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 5: the gym. This is a lifestyle for me, you know

807
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: what I mean. But in terms of, like, you know,

808
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: what's next, I gotta sit back and talk to my team,

809
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: you know what I'm seeing, what we're seeing, what's next

810
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 5: in terms of like who won't fight and everything like that.

811
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 5: You know, I'm always down with fighting the best. But

812
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: at the same time, you know, we we definitely gotta

813
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 5: you know, figure things out to where we can make

814
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: these fights happen. But uh yeah, outside but I just

815
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 5: be killing my wife, my son, and we just be

816
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: just traveling. And you know, I watched I watched my anime,

817
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: you know, and your new season just came out, Dragon

818
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 5: Balls Super coming back out, you know what I mean.

819
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: I love and watch my anime and stuff like that,

820
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: and just working on myself a lot too. To be honest,

821
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't like I was not a reader and not

822
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 5: like that. I used to not really care for reading

823
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: when I was I've really gotten into reading and you know,

824
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: strengthening my brain and keeping myself sharp and just learning

825
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 5: more things about myself and praying a lot, and just

826
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 5: doing a lot of self work. That's what I do

827
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 5: when I'm not, you know, in camp, just doing focus

828
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: on on a lot of self work outside of the

829
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: boxing world.

830
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: I know you you don't want to disclose it here,

831
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: but after a fight like that, you know, to the

832
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: naked eye, for those that are boxing fans watching from Afar,

833
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: you look good everything you did. But from Europe, from

834
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 4: from those that are in your camp, they can see

835
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: the flaws.

836
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: They can see the mistakes that were made during the fight.

837
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: When do you go back and rewatch film and sitting

838
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: with your team and figure out what what you need

839
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: to work on as far as weaknesses or flaws that

840
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: you might have seen your fight that we can't see

841
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: from the outside looking in.

842
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 5: I mean, well, I'm you know, to be honest, I

843
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 5: head back home sometime next week. So right when I

844
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 5: head back home, that's when we're gonna like really sit

845
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 5: down that talk and just focus on the little nuances

846
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: of the games that we could fix, because it's always

847
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 5: something that you can always fix. It's never like a

848
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: perfect fight. You know, if you get hit at least

849
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 5: once in a fight, you made a mistake, and we

850
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 5: drives for perfection. And in that fight, you know, obviously

851
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: I got caught a couple of times here and there,

852
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 5: so we definitely want to continue to minimize that so

853
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 5: we could have more longevity in this sport and continue

854
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 5: to take over and you know, continue to shoot world order,

855
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like that's just you know,

856
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 5: you know, I like to I'm ushering in a lot

857
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 5: of things, man, you know, like with what Denzel said

858
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 5: Shoe program, you know what I mean.

859
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: I like it.

860
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, i'mus a of things right now. And uh

861
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 5: so watch next fight. We we're gonna see it even better.

862
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: Caring Hey, matter of fact, before the next fight, if

863
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: you don't need another you need another sparring partner.

864
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: Man, you know I can come, I can get in.

865
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: I come in the camp with you.

866
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 4: Oh so it don't hurt yourself, man, Shoot, shoot, I'm

867
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: just telling you, Gieseburger, specially be fighting fighters that a

868
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 4: little taller.

869
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, let your boy, you.

870
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 6: Know, on the road. I'm down with that because I've

871
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 6: got you. I'm gonna hurt you.

872
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 5: No, you can't hurt me.

873
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying I'm not gonna I'm not

874
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: gonna hurt you. No, no, no, you can't hurt me. You

875
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: can't hear me.

876
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 6: But you know that, Bobby, I'll be spaing through your

877
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 6: size too, because you know Rolpher Esperosa, He's like, yeah one,

878
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: you know, of course I'm getting ready to, you know,

879
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 6: fight him in the future. So I've had some experience

880
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 6: sparmer guys his size, it's a little smaller.

881
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, no, definitely we can tell that we can

882
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 5: definitely ship a ring at some point.

883
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, you heard that. Yeah, I heard you.

884
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that shoot.

885
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: You had over two I mean you had a bunch

886
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: of amateur fights. I mean, off the top of my head,

887
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: I can't think of anyone but Lomo that had as

888
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: many amateur fights as you had.

889
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: What did you learn in all those amateur fights?

890
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: Because you had over two hundred and fifty wins, So

891
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean to have that many fights, because a lot,

892
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: especially now guys are not having nearly the amateur fights

893
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: that you have. The two hundred I think Lomo's over

894
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: three hundred amateur fights. What did you learn in those

895
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: amateur fights that you're like, you know what, this is enough.

896
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you.

897
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: Probably could have learned enough in a hundred fights or

898
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty fights.

899
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 5: You know, believe it or not. Like it was all

900
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: about timing, you know. I was the Olympic alternate for

901
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 5: the twenty sixteen team. At that time. I was nineteen

902
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: years old and I had about one hundred and something

903
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: fights around that time, but I didn't have any international experience.

904
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: I didn't really fully grow into you know, my power

905
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: and nothing like that, and my style and my identity

906
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 5: as a fighter. And to be honest, mentally, I wasn't

907
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: even really there, you know, in terms of belief in

908
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 5: myself and everything like that too. So there was still

909
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 5: a lot of growth that I needed to do physically

910
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: and mentally. Around that time. I could have went pro,

911
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 5: because alternate for the Olympics that's pretty good in the resume,

912
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 5: you know, to before you can negotiate some decent deals

913
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 5: as a pro. But it wasn't enough, I was being

914
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 5: honest with myself, so I waited four more years. So

915
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: I went to the twenty twenty Olympics, and with that

916
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 5: I grew a lot of confidence, grew a lot of experience,

917
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 5: got the international experience, and then on top of that,

918
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 5: I got to see so many different styles to where

919
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 5: it was like I was so confident by the time

920
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 5: I turned pro that I was able to see a

921
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 5: lot of things and not feel like I'm a visit

922
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 5: something that I haven't seen before. And that's a scary

923
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 5: feeling when you get intoe the ring and some dudes

924
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 5: doing some things and you'd be like, yo, I did

925
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 5: not see this coming, Like what type of style is this?

926
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 5: I got a lot of experience at this point.

927
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: Now that's dope. That's yeah.

928
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, you did an unbelievable job last night. You

929
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: gave the fans of me fighting in your hometown Madison

930
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: Square Garden probably something you only dreamed of a cloud

931
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: and to get an opportunity to fight in the garden,

932
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: the most famed arena, and you get to do it

933
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: in front of your home crowd, in your hometown, and

934
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: you put on the show.

935
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: You turn the lights out.

936
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: Of the building. Congratulations. We're gonna wish you the best

937
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: of luck and come back and see us again.

938
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: Appreciate you all for having me, man, Thank you so

939
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 5: much for sho appreciate it.

940
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: You have a go with.

941
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. It's officially Black History Month. White Sox legend

942
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Frank Thomas is not happy with its former team. On Sunday,

943
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: the White Sox posted a graphic and honor of Black

944
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: History Month, honoring some of the more minutes first of

945
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: the organization. The graphic highlighted events such Mini Mosa Mini

946
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: Mosa breaking the franchise color bary in nineteen fifty one

947
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: Al Smith is becoming the first black All Star in

948
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: team history, but the greatest player, Frank Thomas, was not

949
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: mentioned anywhere. The Hall of Famer posted this on X.

950
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: I guess the black player who made you rich over

951
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: there and holds all your records forgettable. Don't worry, I'm

952
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: taking receipts, Oh Joe. Frank Thomas with the first black

953
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: player to win back to back of American League.

954
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, be peeves.

955
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: How in the world do you forget to include him

956
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: when you're celebrating black history. That's not to say these

957
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: other guys. You couldn't have mentioned those other guys because

958
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: the first guy that blake, that brooke the color barrier

959
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: with Jackie Robinson, and then you had I think doobe

960
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: for the Indians later and then he was the first

961
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: for the the White Sox. So that's not to say

962
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: you put Frank in and take them out. I just

963
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: believe you couldn't mean.

964
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: Black History Month that the team that organization understanding what

965
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 4: he's done for that organization when he was there, when

966
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: he was playing. They understand what he meant and what

967
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: he did. Obviously, if he was left out, he was

968
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 4: left out for a reason. I'm not sure if there

969
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: are any quawls or any riffs with people that are

970
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: you know, up there in management where he left a

971
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: bad taste in their mouth. Outside of that, that's some

972
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: of the games and things they do to you when

973
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 4: you burn bridges with people when it's time to celebrate

974
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 4: you in a manner like today Black History Month, they

975
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: leave you off of stuff and they know that it

976
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: would bother you, which is probably why they did it.

977
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: It's probably why.

978
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: They did it.

979
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: I hate giving people the satisfaction of having control and

980
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: knowing that they control how I feel. I hate when

981
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 4: players do this. No need to react. You know what

982
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: you've done for them. You don't need to seek validation

983
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: based on a Black History post because of what you

984
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 4: did in the past when you played for a certain organization,

985
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: because sometimes this will let you, this will tell you

986
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: exactly how they feel you no matter what you've done

987
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: for them.

988
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: They don't care. They don't care.

989
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 4: That's why they're able to have the power that they

990
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: do are when you're no longer valuable to them.

991
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: He's the leader on runs for forty eight, RBIs fourteen

992
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: sixty five, runs thirteen twenty seven, doubles for forty seven,

993
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: walks fourteen sixty six, slugging percentage five sixty eight, on

994
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: base percentage for twenty seven.

995
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 4: Can I tell you something, everything you just named, all

996
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: those statistics, his resume, his accolades, they're setting stone. They're

997
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: not going nowhere, they're not so the fact that needing

998
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: for validation, because in black history, money from them when

999
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 4: you know what you've already done is unnecessary. Why give

1000
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 4: them the satisfaction of knowing that you even care. That's

1001
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: why they did it. That's why they did it. That's

1002
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: why those voters that in the Hall of Fame, that's

1003
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: why they do what they do because they know you care.

1004
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: Having that much power at this.

1005
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: I think I think it's the whole thing.

1006
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 4: That's it in general, having that kind of power, knowing

1007
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: that they had that kind of power over individuals, and

1008
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 4: knowing they want to be in Like, come on, man.

1009
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, litt Joe, how much

1010
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: do you make as a rookie?

1011
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: Me?

1012
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, ooh, that's a good question.

1013
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: Only no, what let's just say you may change what

1014
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: if they played you two hundred thousands all the way through?

1015
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: They don't give you the validation of being a pro bowler.

1016
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: They don't give you the validation because money is a

1017
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: form of validation. Also, see you think it's just about

1018
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: mentioning in names and in record books, but money is

1019
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: the greatest form of validation. So let's just say, for

1020
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, the Bengals say, nah, we're good.

1021
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay you two hundred thousand and take it

1022
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: to leave it, And every team that comes along says, oh, Joe,

1023
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: we pay you two hundred thousands.

1024
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: You okay with that? You're gonna play because you say

1025
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: you don't.

1026
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: Need hypothetical that doesn't make sense. You're payings you might.

1027
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, it doesn't make s it

1028
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: because you're paying for you my services. You're paying for

1029
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 4: you what I'm able to do on the phone?

1030
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: Are skill set?

1031
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: Are they paying you?

1032
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: Are they validating your services as one of the best

1033
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: in paying you as such?

1034
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't take it that that that makes no sense.

1035
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: That makes no sense to what I just said. You're

1036
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 4: telling me, you're asking, you're asking.

1037
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: He's upset because they didn't recognize what he did say validation.

1038
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: That had nothing to do you said, you said validation.

1039
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: You don't need validation, So why would they need to

1040
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: pay you x Because money is a form of validation

1041
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: because you're paying me for my service for the position

1042
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: out of that play?

1043
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? So what?

1044
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: So what are they validating your play as what? One

1045
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: of the top receivers? Okay, so they're validating you by paying.

1046
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: You what money?

1047
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 4: But I'm still playing. We're done. You don't play for

1048
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 4: them anymore. What do you need the validation for?

1049
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: So let mess your question. So when they tried to

1050
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: put you up in the ring of arnor, why did

1051
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: you say no? Why did you show up? I never

1052
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: had a problem with it.

1053
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

1054
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: But that's a form of validation, oh Joe?

1055
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 7: And to me, I've never had a problem with it.

1056
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 7: If I didn't go up, I wouldn't give it fun.

1057
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 7: Excuse me, man, If I didn't go up, I wouldn't,

1058
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 7: But you showed up, so you were appreciative of it,

1059
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 7: right of course.

1060
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: Because of what I did when I was on the field.

1061
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Thank you again. If I if I didn't go up,

1062
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care. That's hypothetical. But you went up.

1063
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: But like you just told me, that's hypothetical. You went up.

1064
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: Hey, am I in the Hall of Fame ingles Hall

1065
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 4: of Fame jacket like you do?

1066
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Do I care? Absolutely not, no, because I worry for

1067
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you care.

1068
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 4: Don't care my numbers, my stats, and what I did

1069
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: is what it is.

1070
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: It's solidified. It's not going nowhere.

1071
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: I'm not giving people the satisfaction of thinking they have

1072
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: control over how I feel about wanting to be a

1073
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: part of something as.

1074
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: Prestigious as it is. I would never It's cool.

1075
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: I don't need your validation because what I did is already.

1076
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: Set in stone. Let me ask you a question.

1077
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: If you weren't seeking validation when you put that jacket

1078
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: on the sideline, need your fucking validation? Because so, why

1079
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: was it a gold jacket? Why would it go Why listen?

1080
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: List is what you just says. If I wasn't seeking validation,

1081
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: why would I put my own jacket on?

1082
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 3: Because I don't need yours?

1083
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why. Because why was it?

1084
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: Go?

1085
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: If?

1086
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: Why was it gold? Tell me why was it? Because

1087
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm showing you item and I'm not waiting on you.

1088
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: At this moment, I feel I'm Hall of Fame worthy.

1089
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't care whether you put me.

1090
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: In or not. That's the point. What what? What? What? What

1091
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: would obe? I'm trying to figure out. You could have

1092
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: put a red jacket the Hall of Fame? Okay, there,

1093
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: so I do not You wouldn't have put a gold

1094
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: jacket on. You know. Look how I conducted myself as

1095
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: a player.

1096
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 4: Think about how I know, let me finish, Think about

1097
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: how I conducted myself as the player. I conduct myself

1098
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 4: as the player that cares or needed validation for anybody.

1099
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: Think about it. Did I ever change? Did I ever

1100
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: conform to how they said I should have been played?

1101
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: Ojo.

1102
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: If you want to be a part of the Hall

1103
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: of Fame, need to conduct yourself this way. If you

1104
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 4: want to be regarded as one of the best to

1105
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: play the game, you need to conduct yourself.

1106
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: Did I ever change in the.

1107
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 3: Entire of my eleven career year career, did that ever change?

1108
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm asking you.

1109
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: I stayed authentically in truth to who I to who

1110
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 4: I was letting you know I don't care.

1111
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: That's why made Jack.

1112
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: Laid your play was gonna validate the Hall of Fame,

1113
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: not your antics, not the celebrations.

1114
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: Oh that's what I'm telling you. I didn't care in

1115
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: my play, my play.

1116
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: In general, my number then jeneralists solidified just that, whether

1117
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: you want to put it or not.

1118
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at I'm looking at the NBA, they

1119
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: got like orange jackets. I'm looking at MLB, they got

1120
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: blue jackets. Why did you pick one of those? They

1121
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with football?

1122
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: And I don't know what that jacket look like because

1123
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: I don't play in the NBA, I.

1124
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: Don't play in the MLB, but I know what the

1125
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: ones that I know, the ones roll jacket. Why why

1126
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: do you leave?

1127
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Why do you need to let people that need to

1128
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: say if you know what, I don't need your validation.

1129
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Why would you choose a gold jacket because after the

1130
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: jacket is y'all wear? Why do you care?

1131
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't care you don't need it. You don't know that,

1132
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: which is why it may know. Okay, so why do

1133
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: you go get a gold jacket?

1134
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: Is why I made my own.

1135
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you and I'm showing you that's I

1136
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 4: made the message clear when I was still playing.

1137
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: But a part of me thinks that you know, you

1138
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: don't know me long enough. Don't do that.

1139
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: Don't don't come on now, don't do that.

1140
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: Don't do that.

1141
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: One thing about that. I love you to death. I

1142
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: love you to death, and you know that's something I

1143
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: don't care about you.

1144
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: You know that me personally, I think I think you more.

1145
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: Than what they did. They did the bill.

1146
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, they did they did.

1147
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: I will never ever ever give those that never had

1148
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 4: the coach against me, they never had to try and

1149
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: stop me. Tell me whether I'm worthy to put on

1150
00:52:59,560 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: that jacket.

1151
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: Man.

1152
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: But my POINTO, okay, let's just say for the take

1153
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: talk to me. You're not a first ballot or a

1154
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: second ballot Hall of Fame. But guess what, yo, Your

1155
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: your whether your first, second, third, fifteen, sometimes they're going

1156
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: to the Senior Committee, you're.

1157
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame.

1158
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: With that being said, I think your resume speaks for

1159
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: itself because I'm basing Ocho on the time to be played.

1160
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: So basically, from I'm gonna say what two thousand once

1161
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: until twenty ten?

1162
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: That body works.

1163
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: So let's compare Ocho against the other receivers from two

1164
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: thousand and one to twenty ten.

1165
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: That's all we can compare it to.

1166
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: I can't look at Ojo and say well, because people

1167
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: go say, man o Jot numbers better than lis Wan's

1168
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: Ojo number better than John Star Wars, but they didn't

1169
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: throw the ball.

1170
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: I gotta look at Ocho in the area.

1171
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 4: Where you see how, you see how you're doing it,

1172
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 4: and you're comparing it. Them folk don't think the way

1173
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: we think. And I understood that.

1174
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: Them folks don't like me. Unc man, we can't get this,

1175
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: I think.

1176
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no no no no.

1177
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 2: Never.

1178
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: We remember we went to high school and there was

1179
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: one bad little kid that was in the principal's office.

1180
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: That was me.

1181
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: I enjoy it, hey, listen, I enjoy it. I embraced

1182
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: being that villain. I came into the NFL with one thought, yes,

1183
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: with one thought.

1184
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: I want to get your money. That that too.

1185
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 4: You know, I don't cadding about that because I kept

1186
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 4: giving that back every goddamn week.

1187
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: But I want to be one of the best to

1188
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: play the position.

1189
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: That's it.

1190
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: I wouldn't worry about no jacket and all that good stuff.

1191
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that was it. I want to come out here.

1192
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: I want to have it.

1193
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: Where did they send the best to play the position

1194
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: in a particular sport when they when the career is done?

1195
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: What did they send the best that play a position

1196
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: when their career is done, no matter the sport, be

1197
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: at tennis, be at baseball, be at football, be at basketball,

1198
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: with soccer, whatever the sport. So whatever, whatever it is,

1199
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: you said, I wanted to be the best. You were

1200
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls in a ten year span. You went

1201
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: to six Pro Bowls. You at all pro.

1202
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: So that speaks for itself.

1203
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: Now I think the thing he is ojo. I think they.

1204
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't because you didn't get in trouble. You wouldn't

1205
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: getting you know, look, you had the little hiccup, but

1206
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: your career I mean and and and ended but that.

1207
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, listen to me, you didn't get in

1208
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: trouble when you weren't speeding.

1209
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: And you wasn't fighting, and you weren't doing all this

1210
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: other stuff.

1211
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the dancing in some grill row and all

1212
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: that stuff that's entertaining. They not supposed they're not supposed

1213
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: to use. They're supposed to use. What did OJO do

1214
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: on the field? Somebody got that hundred cash the thirteen

1215
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: and fourteen yards something.

1216
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: That don't you know that? Come on now? Because I

1217
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 2: refused the change, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, would't.

1218
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Wouldn't.

1219
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: Man, you know, you know it's funny.

1220
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: What didn't change? Look and what they look they did.

1221
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: It was a and see that's why. Look, I'm upset

1222
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: that they did. I'm upset with they did the coach Belichick.

1223
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: But I'm not nearly And you know I was on

1224
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: I was on that nation. I was on network television.

1225
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: Then absolutely I was living yeah, because I but I

1226
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: just knew it from being around.

1227
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: Because like when you're on network television and you see

1228
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: these people a lot more, I don't see a lot

1229
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: of the voters got used to Ojo because you got

1230
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: thirty three riders, they're right for a team, and then

1231
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: you got what you got eighteen independent so you got

1232
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: fifty men and women that go into a room that

1233
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: never played the game that tells what at the end

1234
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: of the day, try to tell you how great you win?

1235
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: That are?

1236
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: You see what I mean?

1237
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 4: I hate the fact that I'm seeing players that played

1238
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: the game, blood, sweat and tears.

1239
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: You have fifty people that didn't play the game.

1240
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: Voting, and I got players that they see no value,

1241
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: no value.

1242
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 4: In their career unless these people let them in. They begging,

1243
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: they no disrespect, beg and crying.

1244
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 5: Oh.

1245
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 4: I should have been like, hen, you got these people

1246
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 4: over here, they have control over that. I would never

1247
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: give nobody to satisfaction, as great as it is.

1248
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: I would think that let me you know what, I

1249
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do one better

1250
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: for y'all.

1251
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: When I crossed tonight, when I score against the Ravens,

1252
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: I crossed ten thousand yards on that night.

1253
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: I already had my jacket. I pre planned it, whether

1254
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: y'all put me in or not. Hell, I'm Hall of Fame.

1255
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: And then jacket I got is one on one. I

1256
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 4: done made a fourteen carried gold bus.

1257
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: It's say, no, you laughing? I probably slow for god

1258
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: on my grandma, my mama rest in peace.

1259
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 4: Why you need fourteen because that's one on one? Is

1260
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: that that's value. Listen to me, I got I gotta

1261
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 4: sit on. I'm gonna show it to you when when

1262
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: my room is done, it's gonna be sitting right under

1263
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 4: the under the night cap sign it says Hall of

1264
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: Fame and instead of can Ohio, it says Liberty City

1265
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 4: under it.

1266
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: You know you're laughing, I'm gonna that.

1267
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: And listen my jersey under the nightcap sign. My jersey

1268
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: give me the same jacket I.

1269
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: Put on on on the sideline I found it, so

1270
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have it framed and unk I ain't got

1271
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: time to play.

1272
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: That's one.

1273
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: Now that that to me, as gray as it is, it's.

1274
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: Awesome because I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting on y'all.

1275
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna steal that bus. No, no, no, no, don't do that.

1276
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, you know I'm much that cost me.

1277
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: You don't do that. I don't do that. I don't

1278
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: do that. Well, I'm gonna i'mna mal fifty nine hundred

1279
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: of it.

1280
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: Now.

1281
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: I told you I'm gonna give your money, so that

1282
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: might give your money and food.

1283
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: That might be an ear that might be an ear.

1284
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: No, I'm giving your money a feb very fifth at

1285
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 4: the live show, I promptly, I don't want. I think

1286
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 4: I want to steal something. I ain't stole nothing in

1287
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: the Whilack History month. If you want to steal a

1288
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: way till March, yeah you want. If you want to

1289
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 4: stay way toomorrow, don't do don't do it in back

1290
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: here see month you spoke my brother?

1291
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, brother, you go ahead chopping ear off, chop

1292
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: they break it to me. It's a bus. You'll be

1293
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: able to hear. You be just fine. Hey, let me

1294
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: have a red bull please? Aunt got me and his

1295
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: sweating in the paper towel. Hey, hey, chat, y'all, see

1296
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: y'all see out. My nept turned on me. No, No,

1297
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: we good this.

1298
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: We ain't had a combentstion.

1299
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: We had a conversation like this since we were talking

1300
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: budd and boots.

1301
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: Remember, I wonder you got a chat shasty shade. I

1302
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: guess you gotta make it. I got no you don't

1303
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: you know you're good? I got you.

1304
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: I promise you, I got you.

1305
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: I got you. Mm hmm, I can't. I've waited long enough.

1306
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: O Joe and I don't. I don't.

1307
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, but I think the

1308
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: chat Chad, what's y'all think?

1309
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: The chat?

1310
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: The chat understand completely? It's Black History Month, Chad, what's

1311
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 4: y'all think?

1312
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: Hey?

1313
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: Black on black violence? You don't want that. This is

1314
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: a month and there's gonna be no violence. I'm in

1315
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: and out where I'm gonna be at one of your

1316
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: many trips.

1317
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 2: Now the next trip, we're gonna be in the same place. Oh, Joe,

1318
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: you know, I know you be traveling.

1319
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: The only traveler I'm doing.

1320
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: Football season is over unless we have somewhere to go

1321
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 4: and it's work.

1322
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here at home.

1323
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, you be traveling. Huh you be traveling.

1324
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: So I got to get you, Jill. I mean you

1325
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: came to my house and stole your plaques. See you

1326
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: see how you do it?

1327
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: Chat?

1328
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: Does he d about it? But he won't be he

1329
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: told about Oh don't do that in black here?

1330
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, listen, wait till Mark. It's twelve months out

1331
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: the year. This one month.

1332
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 4: We should not attack each other. We shouldn't steal from

1333
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 4: each other because they lived other months where you could

1334
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: do what you need to do.

1335
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: So again in march.

1336
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: If you want to come in here and break in

1337
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: and have to deal with security, have to deal with

1338
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 4: you know, the alarm going off, that's on you. That's okay, Hey,

1339
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: one thing about it.

1340
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: God is good, he is.

1341
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: He gonna be good to me. Get me in and

1342
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: out of the house without tripping out. All you're gonna

1343
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: trip it. You're gonna trip it.

1344
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 4: I got I got motion sensor, I got everything, ring

1345
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 4: the ring and all like, hey, when I'm not here

1346
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: and I hit the alarm, I got beans of light

1347
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: and you can't see the beams.

1348
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: But if you cross the beam, who on the police.

1349
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: To be here in like one minute?

1350
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1351
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: You got cameras in the house.

1352
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 3: Yep, went over there in the corner. One in that corner.

1353
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a dump in that game room. I'm

1354
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: gonna take a dump in that game room. God damn,

1355
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: I would drive me some milk and some apples.

1356
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that.

1357
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: Hey, matter of facts, figure that you know what that

1358
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: remind me of.

1359
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: You saw the movie Alpha Dog?

1360
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: Baby like imashed the pump me saw you saw the.

1361
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: Movie Alpha Dog?

1362
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, to the number in the living room. Mm hmm.

1363
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: That's classic. What's y'all think? Chat? Oh, the chat definitely

1364
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: not gonna agree with that, absolutely not Chad.

1365
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: What y'all think about you? That y'all think I should

1366
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: go chopped water o your gold fourteen carre gold.

1367
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: Ear off his bus.

1368
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: Don't do that because that that's a one on one.

1369
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: Drank me some chocolate milk, eat two apples, just the peels,

1370
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: because that's where all the fiber is.

1371
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:31,479
Speaker 2: Just a peel.

1372
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: You don't need to do that. I told you, I'm

1373
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: paying you on February five.

1374
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm a start in the game room and probably end

1375
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: by the front now not yeah, don't do that, And

1376
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna do like a dog, scoot my butter

1377
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: on the cart on that white car.

1378
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: What else you got white? In the house? You got

1379
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: a couch? Is white thing?

1380
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: Everything all white from stairs down?

1381
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1382
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I don't don't do that. Don't

1383
01:02:59,560 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: do that.

1384
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do that.

1385
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find that LV jacket that you wore.

1386
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: Which one They're like, man, this joke he took Hey,

1387
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: somebody in the LV jacket took a dumping.

1388
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: Oh yo, I took that back. I got my money back.

1389
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I had to receive you really man? Man, hey,

1390
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: I keep to receive on everything. Bron going right back.

1391
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: That was nice. That was nice.

1392
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 4: But I won't gonna need it no more. I live

1393
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 4: in Miami. I knew I was going to New York. Boom,

1394
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 4: got that twit that twelve went right back on my card.

1395
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: Let me get that. Get what you could? You could have?

1396
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: You couldn't Let me get that. Nah, I probably need

1397
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: a double aged.

1398
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1399
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: Even though I've been doing cardio like crazy, I still.

1400
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 3: Like what you way right now? You think about two

1401
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: what two twenty.

1402
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: S probably like two sixty five?

1403
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: Damn you fat?

1404
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: To sixty five, I would get I'm gonna get down there.

1405
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get down to I think my best. I

1406
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: talked to my trainer. He putting the program together with

1407
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: eating and and and and and supplements. I'm gonna get

1408
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: down to two forty seven. I think that is the

1409
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: best for my fifty fourth birthday. If you guys see

1410
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: my my ig, that is the best that I think.

1411
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: That's the best I've looked in my fifties.

1412
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: Hold on, what if what if you get back to

1413
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: your playing weight? Were you like no, no, yeah, oh

1414
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: hell that's too small?

1415
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: Boy, somebody go think I'm onna crack Hell no, and

1416
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: I have to kill myself. I gotta get to I

1417
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: gotta get to a weight old show that I don't

1418
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: have to kill myself. I'm eating catch up with a needle.

1419
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing three hours of cardio all day. That three

1420
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: hours of cardio. Yeah, to get to get back down

1421
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: to two twenty eight.

1422
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

1423
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: So that's that is my idea. Two forty seven. I

1424
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: think two forty seven is good. I can maintain it.

1425
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm changing. Like you know, your body's kind

1426
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: of gotten the nutrients that you eat. You be eating

1427
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: the same thing for too long, and so I want

1428
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: I want to put some I want to put some variety. Guy,

1429
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: I want you eating creama weed. I want you eating

1430
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: cream of white rice. I want you to eat you know,

1431
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: different different proteins. I want you to get some fruits.

1432
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: I want you to start eating more apples, bananas, pineapples,

1433
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: things like that.

1434
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: Berries.

1435
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: So that's a that's like I said, if you go

1436
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: back and look at the picture that I took I

1437
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,479
Speaker 1: was fifty four years of age, that's that's the best

1438
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: that I've looked at in my fifties. Now, I took

1439
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: some pictures. I'm trying to get those that I took

1440
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: when I was about forty five, I was about two,

1441
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: about two fifty seven. I was about six and a

1442
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: half percent body fat. But I was just like, no, brick, now,

1443
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: that's too much. That's too much. More so too much,

1444
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: that's too much, and I don't want to live like that.

1445
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: My shoulder, I can't, I can't. I can't handle that

1446
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of weight the way I was handling it back then,

1447
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: and I under standing, and it took me a while

1448
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: to get past that. On Yo, I got my elbows hurt,

1449
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: my shoulders hurt, you know, lifting you know, you know,

1450
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: three sixty five for ten twelve, as like, nah, I'm.

1451
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: Good, Damn are you strong back?

1452
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: I'm good? Yeah, yeah, And squat and I can't. I mean,

1453
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 2: I can still squat, but I just can't squad like

1454
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: I used to.