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Speaker 1: From housetop works dot com. Hey Laron, welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is this Kristen. This is Molly, So Molly. We're gearing

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Speaker 1: up for the Olympics. They got Olympic fever. Olympic fever

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Speaker 1: ten game. Yes, And whenever I think about the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: it takes me back to when the Olympics were in

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Speaker 1: a t l g A our home. Yes, and Athens,

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Speaker 1: Georgia as well, my my hometown. Um, and the Olympics

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Speaker 1: were particularly awesome for me, not just because they were here,

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Speaker 1: but also because my family housed the family of the

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Speaker 1: Canadian rhythmic gymnast contestant. Yes, it was very exciting. We

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Speaker 1: had a Canadian invasion in our home and because of that,

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Speaker 1: I caught the rhythmic gymnastics fever and try and tried

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Speaker 1: to try to train myself to be a rhythmic gymnast,

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Speaker 1: which involved lots of time ribbon dancing on my patio.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't share that embarrassing detail, but there it is, folks. Um,

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Speaker 1: So yeah it was. It was pretty It was pretty

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Speaker 1: great time in my life. So how long did they

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Speaker 1: stay with you? Oh, they were there for a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: It felt like maybe it was shorter, but I mean

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Speaker 1: you know, she had to come down before the Olympics

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Speaker 1: to get see here in the Olympics? Yes, well, well

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Speaker 1: I didn't get to see her compete because I can't

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Speaker 1: remember why, but we did get to go to the

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Speaker 1: Olympic Village. You had to have these special passes made,

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Speaker 1: and uh, my favorite part of being at the Olympic

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Speaker 1: but now I have five memories of those Olympics as well,

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Speaker 1: both because I think they were so close in proximity

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Speaker 1: gymnastics and that was the big story that year. Um,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it does seem like girls when they're

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Speaker 1: I feel that a lot of girls watch in the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: That could be wrong, but I think that's the stereotype.

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Speaker 1: And so we watched gymnastics, we watch you're skating, right,

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Speaker 1: But I think what we're going to find out today

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Speaker 1: talk about the long and storied history of women in

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Speaker 1: all got the fever, got the fever, and not surprisingly,

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Speaker 1: in eighteen six when the Olympic Games were revived, female

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Speaker 1: But you know, even though um, they weren't officially allowed,

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Speaker 1: a lot of only children write us Kristen, Yeah, we did,

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Speaker 1: in asking how you, as an only child, were affected

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Speaker 1: by this podcast, then you might be fulfilling a stereotype

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Speaker 1: G Stanley Hall, who is the founder of child Psychology,

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Speaker 1: called being an only child a disease in itself. That's

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Speaker 1: I don't. But again, as we proved with most of

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Speaker 1: I certainly don't want to apply to any of our

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Speaker 1: There is one thing where only children really seem to

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Speaker 1: great uh just that then I'm just going to drop it.

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