WEBVTT - Starring Khleo Thomas as Vincent Shu in “Going to the Mat” 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.840 Thank you everybody so much for joining us on this 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.239 park Opper episode, and we are ecstatic to talk to 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:24.880 our guests today because he starred in one of our 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.160 favorite d coms that we've watched so far, but also 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.800 one of my favorite movies from back in the day. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:31.880 So if you could do me a favor and please 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.640 help us welcome Cleo Thomas. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:41.000 Hey, heybody, thank you for joining us. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:42.879 Now, I patroled. Thank you guys are having me. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:44.879 Oh, I love the I love the room you're in. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.800 I'm already I already want to know what is what's 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:47.480 the video game? 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:48.640 What is that? 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.000 That's the Marvel versus capcom to our gay Cabinet. Yes, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.040 and then we keep the Mortal Kombat one right there. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.360 You know, this is the this is headquarters. This is it. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:59.880 You know when you're a kid and you dream of 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.080 what your office will be like, Yep, this is what 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:02.600 you create. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.240 Yeah, there you go there, you're gonna. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.199 Need to make that happen. Well, thank you so much 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:09.959 for joining us. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.520 So we did an entire episode on one of our 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.080 favorite dcoms ever that came up out of nowhere for us, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.399 and we both just. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.680 Fell in love. Fell is amazing. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:22.920 And we were talking, of course about going to. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:23.920 The mat Yeah. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.080 Man, yeah, classic film. Absolutely, it was an honor to 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.040 be a part of it. Incredible story, incredible cast, such 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:30.840 so much fun. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:31.320 Wow. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.480 Well, we just recently had the honor of watching it. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.319 I mean really, I had never heard of it at 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.040 that point, you know, we were doing a lot of 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.560 D coms, or I have heard of it, but I've 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.440 never gotten a chance to watch it. Watched it for 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.839 the first time, like we said, loved it, But when 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.640 was the last time you've gotten a chance to review it? 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:50.080 And and. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.240 That's okay if you say a long time, because you know, 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:56.160 we get it. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.120 We're the same way. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.360 Yeah, it's been it's been a long time because I 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:01.400 went back and watched it. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.080 Actually, it's online actually right now for me. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.280 I put up a I put up a post about 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.519 certain dcoms I didn't get a chance to watch. So's 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.200 some feedback as far as like, how have you not 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:11.680 seen this one? 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:12.960 Have you not seen them? Oh? 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:13.799 My gosh. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.000 But then I had to explain to people. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.800 I'm like, hey, listen, well y'all all was at school 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.680 and then coming home from school, you know, planning your 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.040 entire day after school, dedicated to this dcom. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.720 I was on set working, so I didn't I couldn't 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.840 do it the same. Yeah, totally. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.079 And it's just so great now that it's it's all 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.799 offered on Disney Plus, right, because after the dcom's aired, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.560 if you didn't check it out and see it on 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.119 the channel, you missed it, you know. And of course 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.120 they do replay them over and over. But what's amazing 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.040 about Disney Plus now is you can just look it 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:43.720 up and. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.040 See whichever one you want. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.359 And then now for us, I mean I'm getting all 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.919 the dcoms are constantly you know, offered and told this 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.120 is something you should watch. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:55.959 Yeah, for sure, I know it's an algorithm. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.960 Now it is, oh man as so we should tell 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.519 you that we every every one we watch, we then 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.959 score out of ten and going to the map got 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.440 our first ten out of ten. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:08.920 What ten ten ten. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.200 It was one of those things where we weren't expecting it. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.760 The acting is phenomenal, the writing is incredible. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.280 Yes, you were in the whole time. I mean, it 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.640 was just we were sucked to the screen. It was great. 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.720 It was a really really good movie. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.360 Obviously, movies like Descendants and some of the like just big, 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.960 big production value things or movies that we've watched you're 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.680 kind of ready for, you know, your socks to get 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:34.200 blown off. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.480 This was really just story driven. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.040 Your guys is acting in It was so good, and 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.800 I mean all the characters were. It was just so 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.320 top to bottom, such a great movie, and we were 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.560 not expecting it and we loved your character. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.760 Can you take us back to the beginning. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.160 When's the first time you heard about the project and 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:56.920 do you remember auditioning for it or was this something 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:57.680 that was just offered. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:03:59.960 No, this was something that I did have to all 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:00.440 audition for. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.560 I remember the characters named Vincent fly Shoe and I 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.080 was like, okay, trying to get the backstory on exactly 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:07.800 what was going on with his character, and his name 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.840 went in for the audition, went in for the call back, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.600 and then was able to go ahead and get it booked, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.640 and then we flew out to Salt Lake City, Utah, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.400 I believe, to film it, which is a lot of 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:18.480 you know d COM's got. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:19.360 Filmed out Central. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.479 Yeah really, and you know I have my siblings ou 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.039 out there with me as well, because I believe it 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.360 was around the time of their winter break. So if 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.159 I wasn't on set, you know, I was back at 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.680 the hotel playing video games, but getting a chance to 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.560 meet Andrew Lawrence, wain't Brady and and really really lock 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.480 it into this incredible wrestling story. And I'm a huge 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.120 wrestling fan as it is so oh huge, so to 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.960 be able to have that on my resume and understanding 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.000 just like what it's like to be a collegiate wrestler, 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.920 it was totally amazing experience. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.080 What was it like working with Andy oh Man? 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:52.880 Shout out to Andrew Lawrence Man. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.080 I voted himself for him to be the baby brother 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:56.800 of the trio. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.400 Man, He's he's a star bro. He's a star period. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:05.480 And we connected over his John Claude van dam impersonation. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.000 I don't know if you guys ever seen it. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.280 No asked him about his Don Claude van damn impersonation. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.960 We were talking about a movie blood Sport, and that's 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:14.960 and I saw him do it. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.359 I'm like, yo, can they please have him do the bio? 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.320 Wait a second, let me ask a question, because I 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:21.880 know blood Sport like the back of my hand. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.479 Does he do the impression of when he's blinded in 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.960 the eyes and he's doing this thing? Is that what he? 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.920 My God, you haven't seen him, but that's the impression 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.880 that everybody does, is the whole thing. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.440 Oh man, funny, Oh I love that so much. So 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.040 you you mentioned that you loved wrestling. Did you wrestle 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.080 at all before this film? 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.640 Did you? Did you train to do the movie? 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:48.680 Like? 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:49.839 How did it work with the wrestling? 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:50.240 Oh? 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:50.360 So? 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:51.480 So yeah, we get a chance. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.880 So we booked the film and then they sent me 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.839 to a school out here in Los Angeles, and it 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.080 was where like the Olympic, the Olympians where they start 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.479 training at. So the first day I walk in, you know, 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.440 and I grew up playing sports, so it was nothing 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.320 to me to get it right into the building and 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:06.840 start learning and. 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:07.960 Picking it up very quickly. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.000 But I immediately understood how much of a different physicality 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:12.160 it was going to take for this. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.040 And I was a slim kid. I mean listen, as 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.440 soon as they put me in the wrestling sing that, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.799 I was like, yeah, everyone's going to see the sticks. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:25.880 Everyone's going to see the sticks. But it was that 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.520 for me, man, it was getting a chance to learn 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.400 this new this new skill, and I absolutely loved it. Man, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.000 didn't get a chance to train wrestling beforehand at all 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.200 other than just for this project. And uh, it made 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.279 me appreciate the guys who I you know, watching the 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.480 ring as far as the professional guys and the WWE 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.000 or AW so much more. And then the guys who 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:44.880 go out there, you know and compete at the Olympics 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:45.960 to bring them their gold medal. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.359 Wow, yes, that's so cool. Do you have any fun 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:51.960 interactions with Wayne Brady? 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.520 We were so excited to talk to Andy about the 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.840 movie and him saying telling us how their jam sessions 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.800 were real jams sessions as they were actually filming, and 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.040 that was awesome to see that. Wayne Brady, I mean, 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.480 he is gosh, what can that guy not do? So 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.480 what was your interaction with him on set? 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.360 Wayne Brady the Swiss Army Knife of pretty much anything entertainment. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.960 He can do anything in everything. So yeah, the jam 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.160 sessions were real. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:18.520 Man. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.840 He really is musically inclined like no other, which I 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.960 think was a perfect role to bring him in and 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.640 help bring his character to life. And as you guys mentioned, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.160 the story of this is really really inspiring based on 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.600 a true story, and he definitely helped bring the heart 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:33.640 of this story to life. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:34.040 For sure. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.480 Oh yeah, okay, So we always asked this because we 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.280 love to get the tea if there is any Do 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.320 you have any fun kind of stories from the set, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.720 any anything you remember that really pops out? Of course, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.440 I already in my head feel like the ultimate story 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.320 is just Andy's John foond vandamn impression, and I fear 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.000 I can't believe I missed that, And the next time 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.640 I see him, I have to ask. But any other 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.520 cool stories that the behind the scenes stuff? 0:07:58.800 --> 0:07:59.080 Man? 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.280 You know, one of the first days we finally get 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.200 to Salt Lake City and they have some of the 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.480 kids who were gonna be wrestling against us in the scenes, 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:12.040 and my dad's on set with me that day, and 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.680 the kid that they got me lined up against actually 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:15.640 does compete. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.480 So they call action, and all. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.880 I remember is looking at this kid eye to eye, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.520 and then the next thing I know, I'm looking at 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:25.480 the lights that you meet. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.240 It was extremely quick. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.920 It was so fast to the point where where they 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.719 called cut, I get up and then I look at 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.360 my dad. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.199 In the corner and easy dying. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.480 It's the first time I ever saw my dad like 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.840 like like legit, happy about it, but also surprised they 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.439 could enjoy the fact that his son just got whipped 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:48.760 like that. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.080 A big shout out to my dad for that moment. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.959 I'll never forget that. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.200 Yeah, you're looking for your dad for support and he's like, dude, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.959 I blaked and you were down? 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:01.280 Yeah? 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:01.920 Yeah? 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.440 Were you? How often were you were you guys wrestling? 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:05.760 I mean was this like did you do all the 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.040 wrestling in one chunk or were you guys wrestling the 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:09.439 basically the whole shoot. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.720 So physical training kicked off I want to say about 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.600 three weeks before we got out to Salt Lake City 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.800 to film the film. The movie, and then while we 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.719 were out there it was broken apart in. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.520 A few different scenes. I want to say maybe. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.880 Four out of the days were dedicated to just getting 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.880 the wrestling in and trying to nail it as best 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.040 as we could. And man, big shout out to Andrew 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.360 Lawrence Man for for dedicating to the role. For sure 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.400 he came out he was He was definitely dedicated to 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.160 making sure that he looked fit, that he looked the part, 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:36.400 and he went in. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.920 Man, I think that's the Jean Claude Van dam It is. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:43.920 He took the blood sport round. I love that he 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.679 took the blood so funny. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.400 Was this the first Disney movie or first time you 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.120 worked for or with Disney or had you done stuff 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:53.880 for the Channel before? 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.280 Never anything for the Channel, and I you know, I 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.080 tell this story quite a lot. Sometimes. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.920 It's like for me, I didn't come through the traditional 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.280 route of being underneath the Disney and brother, you know, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.360 my first production with Disney's holes. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.240 Yeah, that happens. 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.640 And then Disney Channel Original Movie comes up to do this, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.679 and you know, I'm like, oh, wait, I get it. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.679 This is different now it's it's you're on the channel, so. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:15.480 It's a little bit different. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.080 I think there's movies and the Christy kralson Romano about this. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.880 I'm like, the Disney Channel guys like y'all got all 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:22.680 the cool stuff. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.040 Like what I mean by that. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.120 It's like there's a game Boy advance that was like 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.959 Disney Channel branded, and I'm like, I'm pretty sure. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.040 They all got that as a gift. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:31.720 Really, that was true. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.480 They did end up getting that gifted to them in 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.560 a few ways. And I'm like, see, this's a difference. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.240 There's a difference here. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.160 It's a little bit more Disney Channel. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.640 It's like it's it's a longer time. Right that you're 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.160 you're celebrating the movies that you're doing, they continue to 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.400 have you back and back and where if I would 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.920 imagine it seems like the movies that you go, you 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.600 go to the premiere and then you. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.360 Know you're you're onto your next project and stuff. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.000 So but you did have Shyff and Holes with you, 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.680 so that he was a pretty big Disney. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:04.920 Channel guy to be around as well. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.600 So that's pretty that sounds like that. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.480 That had to have been so much fun to film with. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.559 Shy Yeah, man, you know, we spent three months bringing 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.560 that project to life. Another one where there were a 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.080 month of physical training a month in advance. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:20.160 They had us. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:24.720 Running miles, digging real holes, climbing ropes. Like they really 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.480 put us through the ringer to kind of prepare us 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.520 for what was getting ready to come. And big shout 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.960 out to Andrew Davis, the director, for making that choice 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.920 for us to make that happen instead of just getting 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.760 out there and winging and just like trying to fake 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.560 it all. Like no, he put us through the ringer 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.560 for it for sure, and to get a chance to 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.920 work with Shia, Like you said, obviously a Disney Channel legend, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.000 coming from the success of even Stevens True Confessions. Like 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.560 he was, he was already being built to be an 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.520 incredible run in this industry. So very grateful to share 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.280 the scenes with him. And you know, our screen test 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.760 for Holes, I think is what really nailed it in 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.240 for me and him to go ahead and move forward 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.160 and me booking the role. Screen tests day, they had 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.200 all these different actors come in for for all these 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.280 different roles, and I'll never forget looking at the list 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.320 coming in for Zero, and it was the longest one. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.119 And there's name that I recognized as Dizzy Channel heavyweights. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.920 I'm seeing Orlando Brown, I see Taj Maury. I'm like, well, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.520 you know, and this is my first time getting into 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.320 this is my very first time screen testing or chemistry reading. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.600 This is my very first experience with this, my very 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.880 first one. So everyone else that day got to do 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.520 a few different scenes. And then it came time for 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.800 me and Shy to do this scene which is when 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.280 he's teaching Zero how to read, and there was a 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.680 script there for us and we did it twice, and 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.280 then Andrew the mister Davis, the director, pulled the script 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.000 and say, you know, you guys in priv and let's 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.960 just see what happens. And he just let us rip, 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.000 and me and Shy kind of just bounced off each 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.360 other for about two or three minutes, and I, let 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.800 you know, leaned on him to lead us in the scene, 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.320 and I followed his lead, and you know, we were 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.160 able to create something really special, and I think that's 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.760 what helped nail the role for me on that day. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.120 It's it's such a good movie. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.320 Holds to me is one of the is kind of 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.160 the quintessential example of one of the quintessential examples of 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.439 the difference between a kid's movie and a movie that 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:14.040 stars kids. Yes, because Hole it's so good that it 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.840 just happens to star kids. It's a phenomenal film that 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.360 kids happening. It's like Goonies, where it's an amazing movie 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.040 that happens to star kids. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.640 It's not a kid's movie. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.400 It speaks to such a huge audience. It's not just 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:28.280 kid driven. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.959 All young actors, especially usually can remember the feeling they 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.320 had when they find out they booked their first big thing. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.840 Do you remember what it felt like hearing that you 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.400 got the role in Holes? 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.960 Yeah, I could tell you exactly where I was. I 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.520 was at a friend's house because this so screen test happens, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.200 and this is about two weeks later now, and my 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.760 mom gets to call saying, hey, they wanted to see 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.959 what Clear would look like with his hair out, because 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.600 when I did the screen test, I kind of had 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.040 it braided down. My hair was braided, you know, down 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.679 to the sides. So they called and they wanted the 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.600 photo my hair would look like with it out. So 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.280 we take a photo, we send it off, and then 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:16.480 a couple of days go by. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.880 Now it's the weekend. I'm at my friend's house. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.120 We're playing Final Fantasy eight on the PlayStation Broth on 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:23.280 the N sixty four. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:28.520 Like we're not you know, I'm just you know, you 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.280 learned very early. You get tough skin. It's like, on 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.760 to the next one. I didn't get it cool. You 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.000 just learn and learn and learn. And then my mom. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.520 Calls me and she's she's screaming at the top of 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.080 her lung. She was like, they want you you booked it, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.440 congratulations And I kid you not. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.320 And I shared this with both you guys. It's it 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:45.480 still didn't set in. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.720 It didn't set in for me that it was actually 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.480 happening until the second week of filming, I still thought 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:53.360 I was auditioning. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:55.480 Gosh. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.000 It didn't lock in until I saw Sigourney Weaver come 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.280 around the coast warden, and that's when it finally made 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.160 sense to me because I'm a huge sci fi guy, 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.040 so I'm like, what is Ripley doing here? 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:13.320 Ripley. It didn't settle for so a whole week. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:14.200 I'm done makeup. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.840 I've been in the trailer, my name's on him, with 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.640 the photos, the screens, all that stuff, and it still 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.240 didn't set in until the moment I saw Sigourney Weaver 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.000 as the ward That's when it happened. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.680 And that's the answer your question. That's when I had to. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.040 Oh my god, It's like, this is total delayed reaction. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.080 I love that tootal Bro. Yeah, where did you shoot? 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:35.200 Where did you shoot? 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.840 We shot in the desert, We shot in Ridgecrest, California, 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.400 and then everything that was based off of the camp 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.480 Can Green Lake was at Disney Ranch. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.320 That went to the ranch. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.800 Yeah, that's where we were at for that. Yeah. Man, Okay, So. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.760 I could talk holes all day because it is a 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.440 phenomenal movie, but we got to go back to d 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.880 coms a little bit here, because, as you said before, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.360 you recently watched some D coms that you had to 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.560 be admit you had never. 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:06.800 Seen before, most notably one that well, I believe. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.280 Let's just say I've had some issues with and people 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.280 gave me some gripe for which is Brink. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.720 Me too, Yeah, that's the way. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.320 I am one of those people judging the hell out 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.080 of both of you that you never saw Brink. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.600 It's like the ultimate of ultimate D coms. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.560 I hadn't seen it, and then when we did see 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:31.880 it a review it, I said, it wasn't my favorite movie. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.280 People were not happy with me. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.400 It came after him hard, and it came after. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:44.120 Him had badly rollerblade away fast enough. It was unbelievable. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:48.080 So what did you think of Brink? And be careful 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:49.240 what you loved it? 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:49.480 Right? 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.840 It was your favorite movie ever. Here's what I'm saying. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:57.040 I think haven't watched Brink yet. I'm all my morals 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.720 about it. I've played my list. I know how I'm 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:00.400 gonna play this. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.680