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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, well, first off, thanks for having me. You

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Speaker 2: At its core, it's a one point five billion dollar

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Speaker 1: Jeremy, I not long, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, so are you talking about curly or in the

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Speaker 2: Okay? So currently you know it's administered as a part

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Speaker 1: Oh so, so the way it's presently set up, you

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Speaker 1: on behaviors. We're trying to encourage and incentivize, correct, Yes, sir, yeah, both.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to incentivize not only that it's

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Speaker 2: In the proposed legislation Center Bill twenty two, this would

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Speaker 1: And does it make clear who those electors or Sadducees

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Speaker 1: All right, hold on just a moment, Jeremy Kitchen, Texas

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Speaker 1: Policy Research dot Com coming up.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to the Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 1: You know every band in the Pearl jam Nickelback Breed era,

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Speaker 1: is anyway. Jeremy Kitchen is our guest. We're talking about,

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Speaker 1: among other things, Senate Bill twenty two House Built forty

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Speaker 1: You're a get it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, our organization made a recommendation that lawmakers vote against

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Speaker 2: you know, the Governor's office that the people that make

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you for quick answers here because

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Speaker 1: note that overall the state budget is the largest in

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, sir, Yeah. Three hundred and thirty seven point

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Speaker 1: I hear from people every day about their tax bill

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: And then when you're trying to quote unquote increase competition,

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Speaker 1: It's frustrating because the first two months they would recess

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Speaker 2: Well, we share your frustrations. I mean, obviously you talked

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Speaker 2: Whereas you know, compare that to the Senate. The Senate

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Speaker 2: took up the school choice bill. That was their first

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Speaker 2: bill of Senate bill too. They took that up in

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Speaker 2: early February. Right, just a night and day difference.

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Speaker 1: Well, you guys are doing great work. Jeremy Kitchen, Texas

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Speaker 1: Policy Research dot Com. I encourage you to follow them.

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Speaker 1: They're doing a great job covering the state legislature right now,

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Speaker 1: Maberry ship.

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Speaker 2: Done that.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel almost like a parody now that it's

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Speaker 1: not a hot song. It's like you take a nineties

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Speaker 1: song that has a synth pop sound to it and

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Speaker 1: a soft, low testosterone you know, this is where this

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Speaker 1: is where I went to school, and then you go,

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Speaker 1: let's make this very two thousand and five dedictions where

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Speaker 1: euple school. Dude, you're just talking about where you went

447
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Speaker 1: to school. You're driving past your high school. Be careful,

448
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Speaker 1: you're gonna blow an O ring. It's not that intense, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about that line in the nineties, right,

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Speaker 1: think about Weezer or Barenaked Ladies singing, you know that's

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Speaker 1: where I went to school. In this sort of I

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Speaker 1: don't know slightly a slight malaise. Right, and then you

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Speaker 1: take the same exact line and it's what year was that?

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Speaker 2: Right there?

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Speaker 1: That was Nickelback?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: And I don't mind Nickelback, It just it feels today

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Speaker 1: like a parody. It feels like you know, you're doing

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Speaker 1: a sketch and you go, let's take a barenackad Lady's

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Speaker 1: song and let's do it in that style, like how

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Speaker 1: Nickelback did it. All right, I'll give you the line. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's where I went to school. This is where I

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Speaker 1: went to school. A diction where I went to school? Wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, why all that intensity? It's just where you

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Speaker 1: went to school. You're not raging against the machine, nobody's

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Speaker 1: it's not a battle for your soul. It's just where

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Speaker 1: you went to school. Why are you doing that very intense?

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to poop thing? What is going on with that?

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Speaker 2: So? Uh?

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Speaker 1: For our officers, any officer, any department? One four, one

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Speaker 1: five one Hiram Clark Jcob's barbecue. I had a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, white people that went to the barbecue shop

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Speaker 1: yesterday and they didn't know what to expect. It's in

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Speaker 1: a gas station and it's very hard to start a business.

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Speaker 1: When I say it's in a gas station, your immediate

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Speaker 1: reaction is going to be its rundown and trashy. Believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, it's actually a nice gas station, especially

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Speaker 1: for that area. It's a very nice gas station, and

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Speaker 1: the owners take good care of it and ready for

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Speaker 1: this Indian or Pakistani owned gas station. And they don't

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Speaker 1: claim the bathroom is broken so you can't use it. Booh,

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Speaker 1: nothing makes me matter. You walk in, you're trying to

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Speaker 1: drop the kids off the pool. You are backed up,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, restroom over there, it is broken.

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Speaker 1: Oh come on, man, it's broken every time. You can't

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Speaker 1: tell me it's broken all the time, because if I

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Speaker 1: sit here long enough, you're gonna go to it. But

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Speaker 1: they don't want you to use it. Nobody believes. But

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Speaker 1: these are nice. So Paul has the barbecue portion to

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Speaker 1: the side of it's all wide open. You can do

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Speaker 1: both the thing. You can go buy a beer and

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Speaker 1: then buy his barbecue if you want, because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: sell alcohol because he's part of a gas station. But

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Speaker 1: it's a nice gas station, and it's incredibly nice gas

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Speaker 1: station actually anyway, So I had one guy say, hey,

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Speaker 1: did you know this place in a gas station. No,

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Speaker 1: I've never been there. It's really nice, and I said,

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Speaker 1: I they just was in a gas station. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a really nice gas station. And it's in the gas station,

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Speaker 1: and it's really clean, and really I thought it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be a hole in the wall, which, by the

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Speaker 1: way of all the cuisines you serve, if your place

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Speaker 1: doesn't look terribly clean and it's run down and there's

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Speaker 1: soot on the walls and the windows don't close entirely,

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Speaker 1: as long as you're serving barbecue, fried chicken or burgers,

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Speaker 1: I could taste the flavor. Okay, this is a well

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Speaker 1: seasoned burger. Anyway, I got an email from a woman

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Speaker 1: named Kelly Grundy and she said, I listened to the

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Speaker 1: barbecue robbery this morning. Then I got tied up on

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Speaker 1: the phone. When I joined back in, I heard the

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Speaker 1: names of Martha, Amaya and little Paul. This came last night,

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Speaker 1: late last night. I just want to let you know

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Speaker 1: that my kids went to Red Elementary with them. My

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Speaker 1: oldest was one year behind Paul. I didn't realize until

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Speaker 1: then who you were speaking with. Both Paul and Martha

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Speaker 1: were very involved with their kids education. And the Parent

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Speaker 1: Teacher organization. They also had another daughter, their oldest, named Amber,

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Speaker 1: who passed away from heart failure in her senior year

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Speaker 1: of high school. They set up a funder, a scholarship

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Speaker 1: fund in her name. I believe it was at bel

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Speaker 1: Air High School. Thank you for helping a great family

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Speaker 1: have a great day, you know. I asked him about

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Speaker 1: his kids, and he said he had Amaya graduated college,

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Speaker 1: and little Paul, Paul the fourth. And he said, and

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Speaker 1: we had a third child. She passed away at high school.

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Speaker 1: And I paused, and I did not ask, but I assumed, Okay,

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Speaker 1: probably a car accident that's most common, could be suicide,

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Speaker 1: which is more common than we realize among sixteen seventeen,

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Speaker 1: eighteen year olds. But if he wants to tell me,

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Speaker 1: he'll tell me, which is not usually my approach. But

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Speaker 1: it bothered me. I wonder, how has daughter died? I

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Speaker 1: mean that changes a man daughters senior in high school.

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Speaker 1: Crockett's a junior about what they call a rising senior.

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Speaker 1: He'll be a senior in a few months. I can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine burying him. I can't imagine him not

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Speaker 1: being in my life. I can't imagine not texting him,

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Speaker 1: you know, how was class? What'd you have for lunch?

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Speaker 1: And then waiting and remembering that my text can't go through.

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00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: It says Crockett has his notification silence, so you have

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Speaker 1: to notify. That's what kids do now, apparently is you

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Speaker 1: got a double click. So if you send them a text,

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Speaker 1: because you're my age and you didn't grow up with phones,

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Speaker 1: you send a text, Hey, I'll meet you in ten

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Speaker 1: minutes over here. I know you're on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the field, but I'll meet you over here. They

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Speaker 1: don't come because they never saw your message. And then

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Speaker 1: when you do find I'm forty five minutes later, and

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Speaker 1: you go, where did you go?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I was over there? Well, but I asked you to

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Speaker 1: meet me over here. Oh I didn't see that, And

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Speaker 1: they pull their phone out. No, and they show you

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Speaker 1: the phone. It didn't go through, and you look back

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Speaker 1: and go, I'm positive I sent it, and it says

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Speaker 1: Crockett has notifications silenced, and then it's like notify anyway,

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Speaker 1: this person does not want to talk to you. You sure

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Speaker 1: you want to talk to them, and now you have

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Speaker 1: to hit the notify anyway. Well, I don't always remember

559
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Speaker 1: because it takes a few seconds when you send it

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Speaker 1: for their phone to go no, the door's closed, you

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Speaker 1: can't come in. And then their phone sends that message

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Speaker 1: back to you and your phone is like, hey, they're

563
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: pretending they're not inside. You want to bang on the door.

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Speaker 1: Make it weird. Yeah, I can't imagine if I have

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Speaker 1: that in my life. My little fella for my older

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Speaker 1: fella it Yeah. Michael T sent me his schedule last night.

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Speaker 1: Just they just he met with his academic advisor in

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Speaker 1: his schedule for the freshman for the fall semester of

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Speaker 1: his sophomore year. Wow, how fast he goes. And one

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Speaker 1: of his classes was nutrition, And I was so happy.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Man, there's certain things in life we should learn.

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Speaker 1: We spend all this time in school. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I love the Peloponnesian War and Thucydides, I do, don't

574
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Speaker 1: get me wrong. And I love Greek mythology, and I

575
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Speaker 1: really enjoy Calypso's dilemma because she wants to marry are mortal,

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Speaker 1: a mere mortal man in Odysseus, and the gods tell

577
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Speaker 1: her a god can't marry a mere mortal. You must

578
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Speaker 1: let him go back to his family. But why don't

579
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Speaker 1: we learn how to file your own taxes and you

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Speaker 1: know how the tax code works. Why don't we learn

581
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Speaker 1: about nutrition in our body? Why don't we learn about sex, sexuality,

582
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Speaker 1: pregnancy and death. In fact, let's open it up to that.

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Speaker 1: What's something that schools should teach us that we should

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Speaker 1: learn seven one three, nine nine nine one thousand. Seven

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Speaker 1: one three, nine, nine nine one thousand