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Speaker 1: Ooh ah, spooky season.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, Millie, you're scaring me.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not impossible.

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Speaker 1: Hi Millie, Hi, how's your Halloween going so far?

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Speaker 2: Oh? It's great. You know, my wife Tricia and I

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Speaker 2: every Halloween, every October we watch a horror movie every

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Speaker 2: night of October, and so this is one of my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just getting started really and honestly, I say Halloween

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Speaker 1: meaning it covers the entire swath of time, which is

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Speaker 1: the entire month of October. Yeah, and maybe a little

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Speaker 1: early maybe, like you know, kind of like last day

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Speaker 2: My good friend Lucee Tomlin Brenner has a podcast called

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Speaker 2: It's Always Halloween, Yes, And she informed me that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people start celebrating Halloween one hundred days leading

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Speaker 2: up to it, which starts in July.

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Speaker 1: I believe.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So do you feel like in recent years

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Speaker 2: Halloween has really blown up? I don't remember it being

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Speaker 2: this big of a deal when I was younger.

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Speaker 1: It's I think we talked about this, maybe did we

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Speaker 1: like maybe very like very early days of the pod,

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Speaker 1: but like, yeah, it's gotten longer. The celebration has gotten longer,

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Speaker 1: like even just the week of Many people consider the

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Speaker 1: week of Halloween the Halloween like where they dress up

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Speaker 1: every night and go and do stuff Halloween theme.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: And depending on what day of the week. Also, it's

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Speaker 1: extended for sure. But then also I find that, maybe

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Speaker 1: to Lusay's point, that the stores get Halloween stuff way

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Speaker 1: way earlier. Now.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I was at home depot back in early September

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Speaker 2: full of Halloween stuff. Giant skeleton guy. I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: that big old skeleton guy you can buy It's like

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Speaker 1: Things in there that's like ten years ago. Like that's

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Speaker 1: old news, like that skeleton. When I see the skeleton

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Speaker 1: guys just didn't put that up. That's just up.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever decorate the outside of your house for Halloween?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm kind of in a weird transitional

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Speaker 1: all my Halloween stuff is in boxes and I'm not

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Speaker 1: do a little light I'd like to do the lessons

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Speaker 1: more approach, to be honest. My thing is that a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I purchased a gold skeleton ooh,

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Speaker 1: life size meaning not fifteen feet tall, but like sweet tall.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and the gold.

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Speaker 1: Skeleton is very sassy and he sits on my bench

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Speaker 1: I also I'm a big fan of putting fingers and

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Speaker 2: Or what I feel like when I see someone, even

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Speaker 1: There's also one of my favorite things, and this is

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Speaker 1: you remember there's a company, and I might be pronouncing

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Speaker 1: it wrong. Is it bistle basil be stl. And they

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Speaker 1: But they've been around since like the nineteen twenties, and

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Speaker 2: They're so bad. That's kind of the classic Halloween cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Look, that's great, Yeah, because back when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: So I have a fondness for those very good What

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Speaker 1: about candy, what's the candy report?

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you something, how often do

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Speaker 2: you eat a candy bar in your regular life.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to be completely honest with you

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Speaker 1: or do you want me to lie?

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Speaker 2: This is a no judgment zone because I need no

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Speaker 1: I'm woofing them down like three sixty five, like I will.

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Speaker 2: This is why we host a podcast because I was

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Speaker 2: going to say to you, and I'm not exaggerating here.

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Speaker 2: I eat a full candy bar five days a week.

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Speaker 1: Wow, uh huh.

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Speaker 2: There's a convenience store like near my house that I

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Speaker 1: Might just stuck stop it for a quick little bite.

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Speaker 2: It's just so easy.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 1: I love miniature chocolates like I am. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I very rarely will buy a full sized Snickers, but

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Speaker 1: That's what I feel. I'm like, oh, if I have

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Speaker 2: It's best not to look into that too deeply, you know,

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Speaker 2: that you find. But Halloween, I just I really go candy.

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Speaker 2: I am a candy nut, and I really go candy crazy,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it's hard for me. I can't buy Halloween

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's oh, the bowl is empty by the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on quickly? I know we're trying

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't have too strong of an opinion

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Speaker 3: So I.

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Speaker 2: Guess I just I don't have too strong of an opinion.

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Speaker 2: I prefer the regular candy.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I think it's actually kind of nasty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the new flavors, the new iterations of things.

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Speaker 1: old school. Yeah, because I will eat a Reese's egg

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Speaker 1: for Easter, I'll eat a Reese's pumpkin. But I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't want the variations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Uh, there's something in the agenda that

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Speaker 2: I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: What I mean.

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Speaker 2: You talked about this, and I saw you did. But

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Speaker 2: Cinnamon Broom Update. You got a Cinnamon Broom update for.

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Speaker 1: Us, Casey. It's like you don't even know me or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm getting to know you through the podcast,

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Speaker 2: But you were there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I talked about this, and I saw what you did.

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Speaker 2: I was not there.

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Speaker 1: I you.

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Speaker 2: I actually started as the producer on the show after

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Speaker 2: the big Cinnamon Broom conversation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe maybe that's true. But there were ripples.

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Speaker 2: There were And so now this is my way of saying,

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, as many of you know who have

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Speaker 1: listened to my other podcasts and just know me personally,

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of cinnamon brooms in this time

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Speaker 1: of year. And what those are are them scented little brooms, like.

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Speaker 2: I think you can get them at Trader Joe's.

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Speaker 1: You can definitely get him at Trader Joe's. And when

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Speaker 1: I lived in LA, when I was absolutely starved for

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, yeah, and there will be like one hundred

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Speaker 1: It's really hard.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yo, can we get like an apple

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Speaker 1: I was so breatht of fall sick. But you can

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Speaker 1: get a boy Trader Joe's. I have secured mine. I

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Speaker 1: will say this again, underscore this I said this last year.

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Speaker 1: Do not fuck with any other sense other than cinnamon.

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Speaker 1: I'm serious, Like I said, with the candy they're trying.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to put out like mohito flavored cinnamon brooms,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like this is fucking insane, Like, no.

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Speaker 2: Don't do not fall for it.

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Speaker 1: Don't fall for it, do not, you know, fall for

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Speaker 1: the scented broom Juggernaut. I say Juggernaut every episode, but

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Speaker 1: I mean it like they're trying to like create all

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Speaker 1: lot of them are not false sense, and it's bullshit.

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Speaker 1: The original the og is the best. And also I

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Speaker 1: think they've realized maybe this is me, maybe this was

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Speaker 1: to get their hands on more cinnamon brooms. And this

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Speaker 1: is not the cinnamon whisk by the way. The whisk

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Speaker 1: is the tiny version that's like handheld. But I've seen

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Speaker 1: them trying to charge outrageous prices for these brooms, like

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Speaker 1: in the past couple of weeks where my local publics,

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Speaker 1: I think somebody said that the cinnamon brooms were seven

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. Then I spat out my candy corns and

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Speaker 1: was like, absolutely not seven ninety nine for a cinnamon room.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be paying elite, like bare minimum. You're

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Speaker 1: trying to get that shit for four ninety nine. That's it. No,

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Speaker 1: nothing higher, maybe like five point fifty, but like, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to pay eight dollars for cinnamon room that's insane.

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Speaker 2: You know that's a recession indicator right there. Cinnamon Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sitting here going, okay, is it a tariff thing?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: You know who's making cinnamon Brooms's little old witches get

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Speaker 1: in the forest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but those are American witches. Yeah, and they have

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Speaker 1: But they're just going to get like sticks, yeah, in

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Speaker 1: On that note, you are listening to the spookiest podcasts

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Speaker 1: Dear Movies. I love you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, you are listening to Dear Movies, I love you.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast for those who are in a

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Speaker 2: for a Treehouse of Horror. Do you have a spooky

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Speaker 1: Chili to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: Chili to Jericho, and mine is Casey O'Brien. Ah.

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Speaker 2: We figured it out. Yes, Oh my god, Halloween season

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Speaker 2: Collette Parker Posey, and Alana Ubeck. I mean that is

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00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: like Powerhouse All Star, Mount Rushmore Love. It's a great

437
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: movie about the boredom of working in an office. And

438
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: it's very like timely because I feel like people don't

439
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 2: work in offices in the same way. Their office culture

440
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 2: as we know it is not what it once was

441
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: in the nineties. So it's great. But this is her.

442
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 2: I watched her follow up movie, which is called Thirteen

443
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: Conversations About One Thing from two thousand and one, and

444
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. It's very kind of philosophical.

445
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: It's a very good New York movie. But it's sort

446
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: of these intertwining lives of these people who are all

447
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: looking for happiness and something. They have found it, some

448
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: lose it, some think it's impossible to get in their lives.

449
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: But it's a really smart moving movie. It's got Matthew McConaughey,

450
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: it's got John Taturo Clia duval I thought it was

451
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: great and nobody has seen this movie, but it was

452
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: really good, and I wish Jill Spiker was able to

453
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: make more movies, but she hasn't really been able to.

454
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, I need to watch this I've.

455
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: Heard about good.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

457
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Speaker 2: I was stunned. I was like, I'm surprised more people

458
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: aren't talking about this movie because it's really good.

459
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'll definitely check it out. I have a

460
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: lot of your picks. Actually have made it onto my

461
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: watch list obviously. But then I it was funny because

462
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: the other day I was like, Oh, I need to

463
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: watch Ephis because I swear to god, we've talked about

464
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: Ephus about seven thousand times.

465
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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

466
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Speaker 1: And I just recently found out that one of my

467
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Speaker 1: uh well, actually Toya Murray, who co wrote the TC

468
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: Underground book with me, who now lives in La She

469
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: and I hung out the other night and she mentioned

470
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: that her whatever neighbors is the guy that directed Ephis.

471
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: That is bizarre. I feel like it was sort of

472
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: odd how we had so many guests and that was

473
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: like not intentional at all. We had so many guests

474
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: who had a very close connection to that movie on

475
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: our show. Yeah, so you got to watch it.

476
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. So I didn't watch it this week. Oh,

477
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: I have it like, I was literally like teeing it

478
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: up on my Prime Video or wherever I was going

479
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: to rent it from. But then I was my I

480
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: was drawn to another section of Amazon Prime Video which

481
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: was offering Paul Thomas Anderson's twenty twelve film The Master

482
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: for free to watch, and I just had to. I

483
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: had to Had you seen this before? Of course I have.

484
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I saw it like twice I think

485
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: when it came out, but I had not seen it

486
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: since it came out.

487
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: Well sod in theaters too.

488
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because in about two days, I'm about to

489
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: be watching his new film, the new Paul Thomas Anderson film.

490
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: It is called One Battle after Another.

491
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: That's right. They're playing in seventy millimeters here, which I

492
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: think is actually pretty exciting, pretty exciting for Atlanta.

493
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: The reviews are getting me stoked.

494
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: I haven't read a damn thing about it, so I'm

495
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: just positive reviews. Oh well, good good. So I was like, well,

496
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: fuck if I if, I mean, if I'm going to

497
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: watch this one, this new one, maybe I should go

498
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: back and watch some of the ones that I haven't

499
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: come around because I mean, obviously stuff like Phantom Threat

500
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: I've seen like twenty seven times. But then for some

501
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: reason I hadn't seen The Master in a while, and damn,

502
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: it's a great film.

503
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Still, it's a great film. And the one thing I will.

504
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: Say about seeing it now is that back in twenty

505
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: twelve when I saw it, I think, my you know,

506
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: part of like the subject material of the film that

507
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: I was really amped on is the whole Scientology thing, because,

508
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: as you know, like this movie was sort of inspired.

509
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: I mean, he says it's not like one hundred percent

510
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: inspired by but it is you know, features a character

511
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: that's very close to l Ron Hubbard, you know, and

512
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: it talks about his early career and his you know

513
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of ramp up to create, you know, creating what

514
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: would eventually become scientology. And I remember back in twenty twelve,

515
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: that was a huge iceberg. That was like a something

516
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: you just like did not want to talk about because

517
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: you were just afraid to talk about. I feel like

518
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: people weren't talking about it in the way that they

519
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: do now, or like it was still it was sort

520
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: of sort of verboten to speak, to be critical or

521
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: speak of it in that way. I think in twenty

522
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: twelve we were like I think that the whole concept

523
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: of it and the whole mystique of it was still

524
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: able to thrive because people were like doing the research

525
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: that they do on things like that. Now right like now,

526
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: it's like because so much time has passed between like

527
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: that whole era where they were thriving and it was

528
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: like this really secret and mysterious world that it's just

529
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: like now, you know, there's like TikTok videos about everything

530
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: under the sun that has like amateur sleuths and other

531
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: like factfinders kind of dismantling everything. So it's like there's

532
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: no way that mystique could have thrived. Yeah, over a

533
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: certain period of time. But back in twenty twelve, I

534
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: think it was still going pretty strong.

535
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: It seemed like they were getting a lot of young

536
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: people still into scientology back then too. And I don't

537
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: know if that's the I have no no research on

538
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: this whatsoever, but it just seems like no one would

539
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: willingly join now.

540
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway.

541
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Speaker 2: That's it semester, All right, let's close it up, all right,

542
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: moving on to our main discussion A twenty four and

543
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: Midsummer from twenty nineteen. Now, Millie, when you think of

544
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: an a twenty four horror movie. All right, maybe I'll

545
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: just say a twenty four movie in general? What comes

546
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: to mind for you?

547
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: Let me throw out some adjectives. Maybe that's the.

548
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: Yes, please.

549
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Hip who, urban city folk, young, contemporary, modern chic, candles,

550
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: limited edition, merch culty, zeitgeisty. I think that's it.

551
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: I think I would throw in like polished. They're very

552
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: kind of beautifully composed, and there's sort of an elegance

553
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: to them muted colors.

554
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes, sure the directors that are making movies with them

555
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: feel a little artsy.

556
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's an artsier horror movie because and they

557
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: didn't invent this, but I think they popularized a certain

558
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: type of horror movie that is less schlocky and more intentional.

559
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: I guess you could say, but a twenty four is

560
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: responsible for what you referred to in the beginning of

561
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: the episode as elevated horror.

562
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: Right, But I also think that, like I think, across

563
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: the board, even in their non horror films, Yeah, they

564
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: work with directors who are you know, a little cool

565
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: and hip and like, you know, not you know, they're

566
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: not making Adam Sandler movies. Whatever, they're making, you know,

567
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: movies by you know, the Sadfee Brothers and Barry Jenkins

568
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: and Greta Gerwig and you know, a lot of times

569
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: these are directors that you know, some of them are foreign,

570
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: like Clared Knee or you know, Gaspard Away or whatever.

571
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: But it's just like it's it's more of a curatorial

572
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: I I think it's what it is. They're not just

573
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: like putting out these to make money. They're really trying

574
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: to create a vibe.

575
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Yes, And I feel.

576
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: Like when you extend that to the ways in which

577
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: they decide to produce horror films, yeah, I think it

578
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: does create a specific type of horror that now people

579
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: are calling elevated horror, which again we said this earlier,

580
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: feels pejorative, feels like it means other horror is dumb.

581
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: Really yeah, yes, but I think it's because I think

582
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: that their horror films, and I won't say every single

583
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: one of them, but a lot of them don't rely

584
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: on old school horror methods of like the jump scares

585
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: or the slashers or you know, like the monster films.

586
00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: They're almost more atmospheric, yes ror, Yes, atmosphere, like more

587
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: creepy and not schlocky, like you said, I think with

588
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of horror, there's a really big tradition of

589
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: horror being maligned, right, and because of that, they were

590
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: made cheaply and were rough around the edges for many

591
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: many years. I mean, certainly they were well made looking

592
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: horror films made by major studios over the years, you know,

593
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: like Hitchcock films, and you know, even I would argue

594
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: that some of the universal horror movies of the thirties

595
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: and some of the like Rko Valuton movies look really good,

596
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: even though technically these movies are cheap movies, right, Yeah,

597
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: But it's like, for the most part, you know, horror

598
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: was this malign genre that they weren't going to spend

599
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: a lot of money on it, and they just wanted

600
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: to put them in drive ins and just like have

601
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: kids show up, and they were putting two at a

602
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: time out there, and that was it. And then I

603
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: think that as the decades were on, with like the

604
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: seventies horr and especially eighties horror, Yeah, you still have

605
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: this genre that's appreciated a lot by young people, and

606
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: so you know, a major studio is just trying to

607
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: like make the money you're gonna pump out twelve sequels

608
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 1: create a little universe, and it doesn't matter if they're

609
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: beautiful or textured or whatever. It's just Freddy Krueger is

610
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: going to come kill a bunch of teenagers and that's

611
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: what has to happen. So I think you've got the

612
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: decades of this stuff, especially like in the two thousands

613
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: when you had things like Saw or like you know,

614
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: these franchise movies that are just extremely violent but also

615
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: like ridiculous. Yeah, a lot of times still hostile, and

616
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: these concepts, right, I think that that is what influenced

617
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: this concept of quote unquote elevated horror because it's basically

618
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: being like, oh, well, we're gonna make like thoughtful art films,

619
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: but make them kind of scary.

620
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh okay. Synopsis Time Danny played by Florence Pugh

621
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: is an American college student who both experiences a truly

622
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: horrific tragedy, a horrific family tragedy, and also at that

623
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: same time is in a very shitty relationship with her

624
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: shitty boyfriend, Christian played by Jack Rayner. Now, as a

625
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: result of this tragedy, Christian feels bad for her, so

626
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: he invites her along on his boy's trip. The boys

627
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: are not happy about this at all, but the trip

628
00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: is to Sweden, and specifically it's to this ancest stroke

629
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: commune called the Harga, And this trip is sort of

630
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: led and prompted by their friend from college, Pele played

631
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: by Wilhelm Broungum, and he grew up in this commune,

632
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: so they are going to go celebrate and be a

633
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: part of their Midsommer celebration. At first, the American visitors

634
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: think this will be more of kind of a like

635
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: october Fest party situation with hot Swedish babes, but soon

636
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: they learned that some of these traditions are a little

637
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: more ancient and a little more barbaric than they were expecting. Midsommer.

638
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Very good, that's thurd. That covered it. Well, why don't

639
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: you tell me? I'm curious you saw this when it

640
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: came out. Yeah, you obviously thought it was a horror movie.

641
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: What wasn't about it that you were scared of?

642
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: Well, you just don't know. You think you know the

643
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: intentions of these people, these weeds. Slowly you're kind of like, huh,

644
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: what's going on here? This is like different and a

645
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: little more intense than maybe I thought and I feel

646
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: like just the slow revelation of the true nature of

647
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: this celebration I found frightening because you don't know how

648
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: far it's going to go.

649
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Right Well, and also too, and this was something that

650
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: I had heard about throughout the years, almost became like

651
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: a meme in a weird way.

652
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: Is the.

653
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Horror, I guess if you will, of a relationship where

654
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: the boyfriend is sort of an unreliable narrator. Do you

655
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Where, Because like you said in

656
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: the synopsis, I mean, basically like Florence Pugh's character Danny

657
00:38:54,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Right is experiencing this insane family tragedy. Right, Her entire

658
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: family is basically murdered.

659
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: Yes, her bipolar sister murders her entire family by carbon

660
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: monoxide poisoning by putting a hose from the car into

661
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: their house. And it's horrifying. I mean the level of

662
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: tragedy that you're not used to a character experiencing like

663
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: such a high level tragedy so quickly in a movie

664
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: like this.

665
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: I felt like it was shocking to me Right, and

666
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: I felt like her character is being set up in

667
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: a way, and this is just purely from a narrative

668
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: perspective to be questioning whether or not her feelings are real, right,

669
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: because it's like, yeah, at the very beginning gets established,

670
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: he's in this relationship with her boyfriend, Christian, Yes, and

671
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: he wants to break up with her. Like he's basically like, oh,

672
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: she's such a drag all she She's just a mess?

673
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: And that was that is like a common I don't know.

674
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: Actually I don't want to say that because then I'm

675
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: just hating men.

676
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: No, do it, Millie, Well, this is a good comment

677
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: I feel like I like this commentary about men in

678
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: this movie because it really makes these guys look like shitheads, right.

679
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: Which I have to say is true. Like this is

680
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I think the point I was trying to make is that.

681
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: And I stopped myself because I was like, I don't know,

682
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: Like I said, I drag you men all the time,

683
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: all the time. But it's also that feeling of, you know,

684
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: a man basically being like, my girlfriend is fucking crazy

685
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: and I got to break up with her. But I

686
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: can't break up with her because she's too fragile and

687
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: fucked up and she'll kill herself if I'm not in

688
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: her life. You know. It's like that's the setup, and

689
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: all of us bros Are like, dude, your girlfriend cut weight.

690
00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: She sucks, like you know, And it almost felt like

691
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: because prior to the actual reveal of the murder suicide thing,

692
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: they were painting her as this needy person like they were,

693
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: you know, her sister was missing. You know, they were like, God,

694
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: your girlfriend calls too much. And then you know, she's

695
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: popping adavan in the next scene, and you're like, okay, well,

696
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: you know she's being set up as this, as this needy,

697
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: crazy woman character, and then she has this horrible tragedy

698
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: and then the vibe instantly turns to well, the boyfriend

699
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: now he has to stay because what is he going

700
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: to do break up with his girlfriend who just experienced

701
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: this like family annihilation scenario.

702
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: There's a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode that's sort of like this,

703
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: like there's a guy who is going to break up

704
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: with his girlfriend, but her beloved aunt, I think, dies

705
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: and he's confiding in Larry.

706
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, it's going to break up with her.

707
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: How long do I have to wait after this tragedy

708
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: to dissipate to break.

709
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: Up with her?

710
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: And uh, I feel like the boyfriend is doing those

711
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: calculations in his head. He's like, Okay, yes, horrible tragedy,

712
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: but how long do I gotta stay where I don't

713
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: look like a shithead asshole? But can still break up

714
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: with her? So well?

715
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: And it's the whole reason why they, I guess, allow

716
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: her to go on this boy's trip, because they're all like,

717
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: oh god, we feel bad, like you know, he's in

718
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: a bye gonna let her come. I would walk that

719
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: back a few steps and be like, why would I

720
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: want to go with these fucking chuckle heads if I

721
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: was going through the most horrific time of my life

722
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: in the way that her character does. Do you think

723
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: I want to be with his bros? In any capacity? No?

724
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I know. But she's a she's in college, she's

725
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: a child, and she I feel like she like really

726
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: likes her boyfriend, or it's like she doesn't maybe doesn't

727
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: like him, but she's in that horrible thing where I've

728
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: been in this. A lot of people have been in

729
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: this where they're like, I feel like this person doesn't

730
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: like me, and I'm doing everything in my power to

731
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: appease them or to be as near them as possible

732
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: so that they will like me more.

733
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: Right, It's a codependency. And when you're a young person,

734
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: that is all relationships are to you or is like

735
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: this codependent like need to be loved by someone, even

736
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: if that person is a terrible person, it is not

737
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: right for you.

738
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: Right, And.

739
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Of course if she didn't feel that way, we wouldn't

740
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: have a fucking movie.

741
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: So I can.

742
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying personally, after my years of wisdom

743
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: and life experience, the last place that I would be

744
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: is in Sweden with a bunch of dudes a night.

745
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: It sounds like a nightmare.

746
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: And here's what makes it a nightmare. From jump to

747
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: where I'd be like, I made the wrong choice and

748
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: I need to just go home. Okay, they enter, They

749
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: basically get on this flight, fly to Sweden, then get

750
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: into a car and drive to the country where Pelee right,

751
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: who is their sweedish friend, is taking them to his

752
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: like little community of happy sprites and creatures, right, his

753
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: little co little commune. Yes, I'm sitting there after a

754
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: long ass flight and then a long ass car ride

755
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: in the same clothes that I probably put on fourteen

756
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: hours before. Get out of the car. We haven't we

757
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: haven't even like pulled into the main part of the thing.

758
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Yet we're just like on the outskirts and there's all

759
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: these people tripping in a field like being hippie nippy,

760
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: like psychedelic fucking hippies in the in the field, right

761
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: and they get out of the car and that are

762
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: pretty much instantly offered mushrooms.

763
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, hmm.

764
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: Okay, And these motherfuckers want to do mushrooms immediately after

765
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: getting off of a fucking plane and a car ride.

766
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, turn around and go home. Girl, you

767
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: don't want to do mushrooms right now. You don't even

768
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: know where you are. And she even says it. She

769
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: even says like, hey, I think I want to get

770
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: like my bearings first before we trip for the next

771
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: twelve hours. And then of course one of their friends

772
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: who is the worst friend, Mark absolutely a terrible person

773
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: with a terrible.

774
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: Face, played by Will Poultier.

775
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like the asshole of the friend group,

776
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: like his sorry, will you have that face for it.

777
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're a lovely human being, but you were,

778
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: you were were perfectly cast for this role. He is like, well,

779
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: if you don't trip, then we're all going to be

780
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: tripping at different times and that doesn't work, We're going

781
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: to be off schedule. I'm like, in what context does

782
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: that even matter? Dude, Like we're in the middle of nowhere.

783
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: Who cares?

784
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: And then the boyfriend is like, oh, well, I'm not

785
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 2: going to do mushrooms either.

786
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: It's fine.

787
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: No, it's fine, it's fine.

788
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: You know, one of those situations. But it's not fine.

789
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: You know.

790
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Listen, I have never been into this, and I don't

791
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: care if I was eighteen or forty eight whatever. People

792
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: who like get pissed at you for not like drinking

793
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: or doing drugs at their level. Yeah, is one of

794
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: the most annoying things in the world. And I have

795
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: so many friends that try to pull that shit on me,

796
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, get a grip, yeah, okay, Like why

797
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: do I have to be as drunk as you? Why

798
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: why do I even have to be drunk at all? Like,

799
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: don't force me to be tripping with you when I

800
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be tripping, Okay, Like have the confidence

801
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: to trip on your own and don't worry about what

802
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: other other people do, Like, give me a break. But

803
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: I guess these people are in their twenties and they care. Yeah,

804
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: but it just annoyed me because then she capitulated to it,

805
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: Like basically, she's like, well, I guess I'll be tripping

806
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: then because everybody's making me feel bad about it. Yeah,

807
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: And that is where I would be like, hell, no,

808
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm going back, Like.

809
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: This is not I was going to ask you, at

810
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: what point would you turn around and get out of there?

811
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: And it sounds like pretty immediately.

812
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: Oh, I wouldn't have even made it to the fucking

813
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: gates of the commune. I'd be like, oh, we're these

814
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: like stupid idiot dudes that are friends with my boyfriend

815
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: are like making me feel bad for not wanting to

816
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: do mushrooms after a fifty hour flight. I guess I'm

817
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: going back to the city and going to a hotel. Yeah,

818
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: because this is obviously their bro hang. Yeah, and I

819
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be a part of it. Well, yeah,

820
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: she should have seen that beforehand anyway.

821
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: But you know, I think the question, if it's asked

822
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: of me, when would I have left? Yes, Now, if

823
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: I was a twenty two year old, I think her

824
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: character is like twenty one or twenty two in this movie.

825
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I would be doomed to death. Honestly,

826
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: I would never have left, because I feel like I

827
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: could totally see myself as a young person being like, well,

828
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: this is their culture, and you know, human sacrifices are

829
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: kind of a part of it. I guess I can

830
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: accept that, like it would have I would have. I

831
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: feel like I would.

832
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: Have been killed in this situation. Frankly, yeah, also not

833
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna lie. My investment in what is happening in this

834
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: community is in direct proportion to how interested I am

835
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: in this culture. Like, I hate it. I hate that

836
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: I thought this, but I'm sure I'm not the only

837
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: person I thought this, And this is such a boneheaded observation,

838
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: but it was giving very ikea to me, this entire film,

839
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: like even the words in the names, but just like

840
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: the vibe of it, the vibe of like beautiful Swedish

841
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: people in all white linens with flower crowns. I was

842
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: just kind of like, not really Karen about this vasting.

843
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, I'm an eighth Swedish, I'm twelve point five percent Swedish,

844
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: so I think I maybe have a little bit more

845
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: investment in the Swedish culture than others do. I was

846
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: I was intrigued.

847
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a south side girl, meaning all my family,

848
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: my ancestors come from the water. I'm not like, I've

849
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: never been one to be fascinated by like Viking cultures

850
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: and things of this nature. That makes sense, Yes, it does,

851
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: it does.

852
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: So so they, you know, they enter the camp. They

853
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: were tripping balls. They enter the camp and it's beautiful

854
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: and it seems like a fun summer camp. And I

855
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: guess the first indication that things are going wrong are

856
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: the sacrifice of the two elders in the community that

857
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: turn seventy four, because they kill people. They kill old

858
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: people that have turned seventy four, right, that's the whole things. Yes,

859
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: And honestly, most of them, including Florence Pew, it seems

860
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: like they're kind of okay with staying after that point.

861
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: There are two friends that are like, we're out of here,

862
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: but most of them are like, oh, we'll stay.

863
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: It's fine that that happened. Yeah. I mean again, I

864
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: would have left way earlier, so this is probably moot.

865
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: But I mean even when they roll up to the camp,

866
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: they're just like meeting people. They're taking in all the sites,

867
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: all of the white linens, the flower crowds, the triangle

868
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: shaped creepy buildings, which I feel like is a fucking

869
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: ariostro thing. I don't know if you thought that did.

870
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: He have a triangle shaped building and hereditary.

871
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: There was some kind of like treehouse, see like slanted roof.

872
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it, slanted slanted roof.

873
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but looking around, everything is real stark, very

874
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: very scandy. It was like very scandy, which I think

875
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: is why I thought about Ike. I was like, oh, yeah,

876
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: this is like beautifully designed, Like most communes are disgusting

877
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: by the way they're filled with like gross hippie shit,

878
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: and this was this beautiful Scandinavia and architecture ikea paradise.

879
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, they're walking around, you know,

880
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: they realized she they quickly realized that they all have

881
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: to sleep in the same room because they're not of

882
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: a certain age or something like you all have to

883
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: sleep all.

884
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: The kids got to sleep in the same room.

885
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were in these like rickety tiny dollhouse beds,

886
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn, this is this looks uncomfortable And

887
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: you have to sleep open air with a bunch of kids.

888
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be tough for me. I like to

889
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: be alone even now as a you know, a man

890
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: with a family. I like, I'm my office is in

891
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: my basement and like a little cupboard down here. I

892
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: like to be removed and away from other people. So

893
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 2: I think a commune like this situation would be hard

894
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: for me.

895
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: Well even when I was like, you know, in my twenties,

896
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: and I'd be like backpacking or like traveling on the

897
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: cheap and sleeping on people's couches. If you told me, oh,

898
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: you have to sleep in this house with a bunch

899
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: of babies and kids, I'd be like, fuck, no, I'm

900
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: gonna go sleep at the airport. Kids they stay up

901
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: all night long cry like no, thank you. Yeah, but

902
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: you know, basically like they're taking it all in and

903
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm just like, again, I just would I wouldn't. I'd

904
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I don't know if this is

905
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: my vibe. This is feeling very not my thing. It's

906
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: not very cozy. It just feels kind of like stark

907
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: and creepy.

908
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like, you know, like we're talking about

909
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: horror movies and we're talking about this movie. It's like

910
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: when would you leave? Yes, you know, when would you

911
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: get out of there to survive? Because a lot of

912
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: times you watch horror movies and you're like, what are

913
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: they doing? They're they're not noticing all these red flags,

914
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: you know. But do you feel like in general, when

915
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: you're watching a horror movie, You're like, I would not

916
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: be in that situation. Correct, I would have gotten out

917
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: of there.

918
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, Because I'm like, I'm the I don't know

919
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: about this guy's person in every horror movie. I'm not brave.

920
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm like a complete and utter pussy. I'm like, I

921
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't like the vibe. I'm out

922
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: of here, and it's usually the other people that are

923
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: trying to force me to stay that I end up

924
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: staying a lot of times. But for the most part,

925
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, instantly, not a cool vibe. I'm out.

926
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: I am I'm a sententighly sensitive person, and I feel

927
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: like when the vibes are off, I can sense immediately.

928
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: But I also have in the past been victim to

929
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 2: not wanting to make waves, sure, you know, And so

930
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: that's why I fear for my life that I will

931
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: be the headed, you know, whacked against a tree by

932
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: Jason or something because I didn't follow my instinct.

933
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm like, this is you know, you mentioned

934
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: the people that jump off the cliffs when they're seventy

935
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: four or whatever. Yes, this was actually the only part

936
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: of the movie that I actually thought was terrifying, which

937
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: is that the in which people were getting their faces

938
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: smashed by those like big ballots, those like Donkey Kong,

939
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: Super Mario Brothers mallets. I was like, damn, that is brutal.

940
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they show it too, which they do.

941
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: As a horror person, I was all right, I appreciate

942
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: your impress Yeah, but that to me was scary. Didn't

943
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: really understand why. I thought the reasoning was kind of dumb. Okay,

944
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: this is again. I think what I want to go

945
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: back to is the idea of my investment in this

946
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: world is only as strong as the customs that I

947
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: have to learn, that the rules of the world that happens.

948
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: If I feel at all that the rules become stupid

949
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: and annoying, that I'm out.

950
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: Oh and you felt the rules got annoying and stupid

951
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 2: in this movie, yes.

952
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: Sadly to say, I was like, there's a lot of

953
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: meat on this boat. There's a lot going on, very

954
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: high concepts, a lot of like weird potions and.

955
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: Like pubes in your food, and.

956
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 1: People just like simply drinking stuff without questioning it at all,

957
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Like just yeah, I'll take a swig of this thing.

958
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: It looks like actual piss. And I get that you

959
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: don't want to be rude in another person's home country

960
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: or their culture. But I'm also like, I don't know you.

961
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: I really don't know you, and I I don't mind

962
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: tasting dishes, but like drinking strange liquids, that feels like

963
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: a poison scenario.

964
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: I guess so, but you're you're a guest at there.

965
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: I guess I wouldn't. I just wouldn't jump to what

966
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: is this? I would be like okay, But.

967
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: They're not even explaining what's it. They're just being like, oh,

968
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: it's supposed to make you really nice, Like, oh cool,

969
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna drink it. What does that even mean?

970
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me, like a couple of ingredients,

971
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: tell me that, you know, give me a little bit

972
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: more of an explanation, and then oh, you should just

973
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: drink it. It tastes good. Like here's the thing. When

974
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: people start disappearing again, I think you and I would

975
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: both have been out way way before this. But then

976
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: people start disappearing, and this happens in every single movie

977
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: I've ever seen about a cult or a commune or anything,

978
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: is that people start disappearing and they don't say bye

979
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: to their friends.

980
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other people are like, oh, they left

981
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: without saying goodbye, don't worry, they're fine.

982
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're told by an elder or somebody that's

983
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: in the group, Oh, we dropped them up at the airport,

984
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. And I'm like, that is a huge

985
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: like a red flag, like being flown off the hillside.

986
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta get out then, yeah, you gotta

987
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: get out. Yeah. But the thing that becomes more apparent

988
00:57:53,800 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: after the scene is that they're bringing these people, primarily

989
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: Danny and Christian into the rituals more and they're they're

990
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: basically setting them up to participate in the activities of

991
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: this class, including the May Queen fandango.

992
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: Yes, it becomes less of a celebration and more of

993
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: a ritual that they didn't realize that they were a

994
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 2: part of.

995
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: Right, that maybe that they were handpicked to come and participate.

996
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: And I guess that's the horror part.

997
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: Of the full horror part that just got that give

998
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: me chills when you just said that yeah.

999
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: But the may Queen is what the princess of the

1000
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: yes like the Miss USA pageant of this commune, and uh,

1001
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: it becomes clear that Danny is becoming part of it.

1002
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: She just immediately jumps in from what I saw, Like

1003
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: she's just like, sure, i'll learn the dances, I'll learn Swedish,

1004
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: I'll be making meat pies with y'all in no time.

1005
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, she's crowned the queen.

1006
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: That's where you get the image of what I was,

1007
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: what I saw as part of the Midsummer you know,

1008
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: mythology when I Beforeheadedvid's in the movie, was seeing Florence

1009
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: Pew and all the flowers and looking fucking disheveled and

1010
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: sad covered in beautiful flowers, which I think conceptually is

1011
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: actually pretty tight. Like I'm like, oh, okay, it is

1012
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: wonderful to see somebody covered, covered in beautiful flowers, but

1013
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: looking like they want to die. But so she becomes

1014
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: part of this ritual, she becomes the queen, and then

1015
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: I suppose to spoiler alert, she might end up last

1016
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: woman standing, final girl style. Yeah, she might her beloved,

1017
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: her fuck boy boyfriend who wanted to break up with

1018
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: her maybe has his own way of h transcending to

1019
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: the next realm.

1020
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, which they just may that'll see.

1021
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: By the way, Wow, that was very like I felt

1022
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: like I was watching Suspiria. They yeah, yeah, about which

1023
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: is what the fuck there?

1024
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: You're you're right on, I you know, I think something

1025
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: overall I appreciate about this movie. It is about tragedy

1026
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: and trauma, and Florence Pugh is carrying a lot. Danny

1027
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: is carrying a lot of trauma in this movie, and

1028
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a burden upon her that her

1029
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: boyfriend and these bros are in no way attempting to

1030
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 2: alleviate or help. But she gets to this community, which

1031
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: yes they're murderous, okay, but I feel like they see

1032
01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: her and are willing to and happy to take on

1033
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 2: and help her remove her trauma, to help her work

1034
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: through it, and to even take it out. Like there's

1035
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: that whole scene where the women are screaming, you know,

1036
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: scream crying with her. I liked that. I thought that

1037
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: was moving in a way, and I think that's sort

1038
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: of something that I.

1039
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: Took away from the movie enjoying. Well, I'm glad that

1040
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: you thought that, actually, because I was sitting there thinking,

1041
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm feeling less and less connected to her story as

1042
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: the movie moves on. I think it's because there was

1043
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: just too much going on.

1044
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: Okay, there's too much.

1045
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: To learn and know about what these people do and

1046
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: who these people are, and then there's all these other

1047
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: characters interacting with them that I kept thinking, Oh, I

1048
01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: forgot that she's going through this huge scenario. Why you know,

1049
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: But now you got me thinking about why is the

1050
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: black guy doing a dissertation on Swedish culture? Why is

1051
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: this asshole that everyone hates following this woman that he

1052
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: wants to fuck into the woods. And he didn't come

1053
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: out like no, you know, there's all these like different

1054
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: side quests that I was just like, you're distracting me

1055
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: from what I'm here for, which is that I want

1056
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: this woman to get her revenge, yeah, in some way,

1057
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: And you know, it just felt like I was disconnecting

1058
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: slowly from her story, which is unfortunate because I felt like,

1059
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: obviously that's the most compelling story out of all these people.

1060
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: Uh huh, yeah.

1061
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I the scene with her boyfriend, I felt like, okay,

1062
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: well that's interesting. Which scene the yes, when he's basically

1063
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: creating a new life.

1064
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: With Yes, he gets wrapped up, he gets kind of uh,

1065
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, poisoned or like drugged two and he's

1066
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: been chosen to thornicate with a woman to create a baby.

1067
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of women that are a part

1068
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: of it, including like chanting around this woman as they're

1069
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: dwinking in the middle of this big house. And uh,

1070
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: there's even an old lady who comes behind and starts

1071
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: pushing his butt. I thought that was funny.

1072
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: Listen. I between Suspiria the remake, this movie, maybe elevated

1073
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: horror has done something amazing, which is that it's bringing

1074
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: in a lot of old lady boobs. And I love it.

1075
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: A lot of old lady boobs in The Witch too.

1076
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: Yes, it's about fucking time.

1077
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll think of some more if I can

1078
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: like those.

1079
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: Let's get some more droopers out out for these people

1080
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: to see, because it's it's important the men need to

1081
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: know that this is what boobs do when you age. Okay,

1082
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: it's like, we're not all perky, and you know, the

1083
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: reality is is that we carry a lot of wisdom

1084
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: in these saggy tits. It's just the way it is, and.

1085
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: Maybe the wisdom is what brings them down to earth.

1086
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: There's a whole This.

1087
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: Is so such a sidebar, but like there's this whole

1088
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: storyline in the valley about saggy boobs after like giving birth.

1089
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: So I've got it on the brain, I suppose. But

1090
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, at the end of the day,

1091
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: that is something good about elevated horror, maybe even folk horror,

1092
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: is there is like a naturalism that comes into play

1093
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: with some of these stories that I actually think is

1094
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: pretty tight and I really appreciate it on that level.

1095
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, that was the thing, is

1096
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: that He's going through this entire scenario and I'm just

1097
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: sort of like, all right, what's up with Danny. Let's

1098
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: go let's find out what she's doing. May queen? What

1099
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: does that get you? Is there a parade?

1100
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: You know?

1101
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: Is she going to be a spokes woman for Revlon? Like?

1102
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: What what happens in these scenario?

1103
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess what what do you think her life

1104
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: is like after this? What do you think happens to her?

1105
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she stays in that commune in

1106
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: is Yeah, then getting impregnated by weird American dudes in

1107
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: a ritual, you know, like she just becomes a part

1108
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: of the crew.

1109
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: You don't think she goes back to Colorado. I guess

1110
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: she doesn't have a family to go back to.

1111
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: No, why the fuck would she go back there if

1112
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: she's the may queen and that probably gives her a

1113
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: little bit of clout.

1114
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know she can watch Austin Powers on her

1115
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: Did you like that part? For kids? Are right?

1116
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: I was like, where are y'all even watching Austin Powers?

1117
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: Like this looks like a damn dollhouse.

1118
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they have electricity and I was guessing

1119
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: like a VHS tape for some reason.

1120
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: Again, a lot of a lot of questions when it

1121
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: comes to this, Like it.

1122
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: Made me laugh hard because you know, we used to

1123
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: have these fans reunions at this cabin resort every year.

1124
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: Well we still do, but we would stay at this

1125
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: resort and my cousins would bring their VHS TV, you know,

1126
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: the little TVs with the VHS player in it, and

1127
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: one of the movies we would watch was Austin Powers.

1128
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: So I was like very tickled that that was I listen,

1129
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: I sit down in front of Loston Powers. Now, Yeah,

1130
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: anytime it's on. I'm in, you know, But oh my goodness, well, Millie,

1131
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: what else is there to say about Midsommer ari astro

1132
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: A twenty four.

1133
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wanted to like it more than

1134
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: I didn't. I think I think it had a lot

1135
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: of mystique and it was a it was a curiosity

1136
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: since it came out and I was not I had

1137
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: not really like, read too too much about it. I

1138
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: had heard about it. I you know, obviously had seen

1139
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: the flowers in the floor and pewness of it so

1140
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: many times. But I guess I just didn't really know

1141
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: much about it on that level of what the film

1142
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: could actually be about. I think I was a little like, Okay,

1143
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: maybe I just missed the train on this a little bit,

1144
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate. And I feel like that's the unfortunate

1145
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: thing about watching movies like this much much later, because

1146
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: you can't help but be informed by just the fallout

1147
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: of big juggernaut movies.

1148
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I think you're totally right.

1149
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, when I I watched Titanic like within

1150
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: the past like year and a half for the first time,

1151
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: I actually in that case, I actually liked it a

1152
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: lot more than I thought I would, because I think

1153
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: everybody began to hate that movie in a way, and

1154
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: then I was like, I actually kind of like it.

1155
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe it's like.

1156
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I think about movies like La La Land.

1157
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,479
Speaker 2: When that came out, people were like, I loved this movie,

1158
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,479
Speaker 2: And if you had seen it at the high of

1159
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: people being excited about it, you might think differently about

1160
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: it than watching it now when everyone was like, actually,

1161
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: that movie sucks and I hate it, you know, because

1162
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: that had like a big backlash to it, and not

1163
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: that Midsummer I had a big backlash. But I think

1164
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: there is something to be said about seeing a movie

1165
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: in the window of time when it is like a

1166
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 2: big point of conversation or really popping off with the culture,

1167
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1168
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing too, about if you go back

1169
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: and you even watch movies that won like Oscars from

1170
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: like five eight years ago.

1171
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1172
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: I want to say that I was reading a letterbox

1173
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: review from a really good, like reliable letterboxed follower that

1174
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: I have that I follow, who has great taste and

1175
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: is always like somebody that I kind of admire, and

1176
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: I think it was I don't know if it was

1177
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: Past Lives or it was like some movie that came

1178
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: out that was huge, the kind of indie circuit slash

1179
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: oscar circuit maybe from like five years ago or something

1180
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: like that, and they were like shitting on it, and

1181
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, that's crazy because everybody, everybody else

1182
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: had rated it like five stars. Yeah, you know, and

1183
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: then this one persons like this movie actually fucking.

1184
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 2: Sucks and yeah, you know.

1185
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was something like that.

1186
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about that with the movie Coda.

1187
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: You remember the movie Coda. Yeah, yeah, it won Best

1188
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: Picture at the Academy Awards in twenty twenty one, and

1189
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I forgot that movie existed. No one ever

1190
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: brings up that movie. I didn't think that movie was

1191
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 2: particularly good, but people really liked that movie. But it

1192
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: has no cultural standing whatsoever.

1193
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: You know, yes, absolutely, so, yeah, I mean that's interesting.

1194
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: I guess it's like your mileage may vray on this

1195
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But I mean, I'm glad I watched it.

1196
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: I'll always be glad to watch a movie that I've

1197
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: never seen before. And I guess I don't. Oh, the

1198
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: Horror The Elevated horror, the A twenty four horror thing.

1199
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if we were able to seal the

1200
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: deal on that, but it's you know, it's definitely like

1201
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: an interesting conversation to have.

1202
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm not bummed that you don't like it.

1203
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't care if you don't like a movie or not.

1204
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: But I I really love this movie. I'm kind of

1205
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 2: midsommer pilled, I think.

1206
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: And I know you've seen it quite a bit. Huh.

1207
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it like five times, and I really

1208
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 2: like this movie. So it's just interesting. But I did

1209
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: see it in theaters, you know, so yeah. And the

1210
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: elevated horror thing, I think it. I don't know if

1211
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: there's much more to discuss, but it is something where

1212
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: there is sort of a line in the set. There's

1213
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: like a designation that it's like this is elevated horror,

1214
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: meaning it's good, and that's regular horror and that's bad.

1215
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know. It's an interesting time in the

1216
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: development of horror movies. I like movies that are considered

1217
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 2: elevated horror, and I like movies that are just considered schlocky,

1218
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: stupid horror.

1219
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: But imagine if they like remade. Think of like a

1220
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: a real funny, shitty like eighties or nineties horror movie

1221
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: that if they remade in the A twenty four elevated style,

1222
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: would be so funny.

1223
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: Like yeah, leprecawn, leprecawn. I was gonna say Critters, Yeah,

1224
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: the Bugs, Bugans or.

1225
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: Child's play. What if they made like an atmospheric chucky movie.

1226
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna say about elevated horror. There

1227
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: is a humorlessness.

1228
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: To them.

1229
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: Yes, they take themselves very seriously. You know.

1230
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: Listen, if we're grasping at the mere mention of Austin

1231
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: Powers in Midsummer, that means it's not a very funny film.

1232
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 2: Let's move on to employees pics. Yes, MILLI, what do

1233
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: you got?

1234
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,799
Speaker 1: Well, here's a t I am not going to recommend

1235
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: an A twenty four movie. No, is that a problem?

1236
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: Is that a problem?

1237
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 3: No?

1238
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: I was being silly, Okay, I was gonna say, you

1239
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,839
Speaker 1: can fire me. I guess technically if you won't.

1240
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: Technically I could fire you. No, I couldn't. If I

1241
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: wanted to fire you, I don't think I could.

1242
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: I know, but these are employee picks. Maybe you would

1243
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: at least tell the manager like this bitch.

1244
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I caught Millie smoking cigarettes in the bathroom.

1245
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: It stinks in there.

1246
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: She's listening to Steely Dan in the bathroom smoking cigarette.

1247
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: I but here's the thing. I'm not going to recommend

1248
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: an eight twenty four movie. I'm not going to recommend

1249
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: a horror or elevated horror movie. Really, I'm actually going

1250
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: to recommend a documentary which is essentially about a cult

1251
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: and it is scary in a different way. Is it

1252
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: is a terrifying documentary, but it's because it's about true

1253
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: life criminals and scary weirdos from our history. But also

1254
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: just like the way in which shot, it's very raw,

1255
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: very rough around the edges. But it's this documentary called

1256
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: Manson from nineteen seventy three, and it is a documentary

1257
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: that was essentially made in the time like right, the

1258
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: few years after the Manson murders, right, And it was

1259
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: directed by Robert Hendrickson and Lawrence Merrick. And it's basically

1260
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: like they go to like Spawn Ranch and they interview

1261
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: like Squeaky from Me and like you know Sandy, and

1262
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:19,839
Speaker 1: they are in the throes of their dedication to Charles

1263
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:24,879
Speaker 1: Manson and the Manson family that it is like pretty scary,

1264
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: and they're wearing like much like midsummer they're wearing like

1265
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: animal pelts and stuff for some weird reason, and they're

1266
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: carrying guns, and they're being interviewed by a documentary team

1267
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: and they're just like so reverent towards the family. It

1268
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: just feels so like this is not something that's like

1269
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: being made like twenty thirty years after the fact, that

1270
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: it's being made like really close. I mean, I don't

1271
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: know if the trial was still technically happening, but it

1272
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: was like all the shit had pretty much just happened,

1273
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: and like everybody, you know, Manson's in jail, all of

1274
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: the you know, people who participated in the crimes were

1275
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: in jail, and there was just all these like people

1276
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: left that were part of the family, and they were

1277
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: just kind of like hanging out on this fucking ranch,

1278
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out what to do with their

1279
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: lives now that their leader has been, you know, convicted

1280
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: of these crimes. And so it was just like felt

1281
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 1: very fairal and unhinged and terrifying. But it is pretty

1282
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: it's a pretty raw documentary, and like there's actually this

1283
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: part of it that is trippy, and I think it's

1284
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: because it's made in nineteen seventy three. I mean it's

1285
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 1: like very psychedelic, but like Bobby Bolselet is involved, and

1286
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: it's this like triptich of like they're kind of like,

1287
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, they were making music and it was just

1288
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of this creepy murder music and it was just

1289
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: kind of like, it's very trippy. It feels very of

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Speaker 1: the era. I don't know, you might have to rent

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Speaker 1: it somewhere, like we have a video store. It might

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Speaker 1: be on the internet archive. It's really hard to find

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Speaker 1: or it was for very long time, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know what I watched Midsummer I was kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of the vibe I'm going for for

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Speaker 1: a employee pick.

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Speaker 2: So very good.

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Speaker 1: It's a good curiosity like to watch if you're especially

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Speaker 1: if you're interested in the Manson family, but even if

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Speaker 1: not just a historical artifact.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Well. I was sort of I'm going to

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Speaker 2: recommend to H twenty four movie and one that I

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01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 2: feel like may have been sort of forgotten to time.

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Speaker 2: This isn't I would not consider this a horror movie,

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01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 2: but it does have horror movie elements. To it. It's

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: a movie called Lamb from twenty twenty one. It's with

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01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: Numi Rapachi. It's an Icelandic slash Swedish film. It's directed

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: by Vladimir Johansen and Numia Rapace and her husband experience.

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Speaker 1: A tragedy of course, that's what you gotta do in

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01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: a twenty four movies.

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Speaker 2: And one day they discover and they're in farmers and

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Speaker 2: one of their sheep has given birth to a half lamb,

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Speaker 2: half human.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And it's sort of disturbing and sweet and scary. And

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01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 2: it's set in like the real farm country of Iceland,

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 2: so they're out in the middle of nowhere. So it's

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Speaker 2: sort of, you know, some similarities to Midsommer in that way.

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Speaker 2: But it is a really creepy movie, beautiful movie.

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 2: You should check it out. And it's very a twenty

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Speaker 2: four e you know, it's got that a twenty four

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Speaker 2: vibe to it.

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Speaker 1: So interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lamb Lamb. Saw it at the Alamo Draft House

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Speaker 2: in LA with my friend Christian Duaneyus.

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Speaker 1: Wow, good shot, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Good job in our first spooky episode.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you want to email us

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Speaker 1: and groups and grits.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's good.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to redo it. I didn't even realize

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01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,960
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1343
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Speaker 1: What about next week, let's talk about it.

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: Have you seen this movie?

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01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: Nope? First tame watch.

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01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: Again another first time watch. We're watching car and Kusama's

1357
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine movie Jennifer's Body, written by Diablo Cody.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what you think of this one.

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01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I have been wanting to watch

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01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 1: this movie for a very long time. If I'm glad

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01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: we're finally doing it, and I've heard so many good

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01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: things about it, so.

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Speaker 2: Oiler alert, I like this movie too.

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Speaker 1: Oh good to no, Good to no.

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Speaker 2: Mellie, thank you for a great episode. It was so

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01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 2: fun digging in to horror stuff and have a spooky week.

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Speaker 1: Please wolfed down as many miniature Kenny or non miniature

1368
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: candy bars as you can.

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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I really am trying and succeeding.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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