Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, The Patriots make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I have joined in
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg rosefal What is up? Boys and Championships Sunday? In
Speaker 1: the books Historic Championship Sunday. Two overtime games played sudden
Speaker 1: death football with the Super Bowl on the line, and uh, almost,
Speaker 1: from my opinion, almost a perfect day of football. It
Speaker 1: didn't quite work out. The the Patriots are moving on again.
Speaker 1: Well's say your team, Dan is moving on. I got
Speaker 1: the lock covers that threw your way behind them. I
Speaker 1: threw my way behind him and I and I did
Speaker 1: get the lock. But there's an old Bill Simmons, you know,
Speaker 1: who's one of the more influential Boston sports writers in
Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. He used to say it
Speaker 1: over and over again, back in the day before Boston
Speaker 1: started winning titles in every sport every year, when he
Speaker 1: would lament the existence of the Yankees, he said, rooting
Speaker 1: for the Yankees is like rooting for the house in blackjack.
Speaker 1: It's a great quote, and I think that Greg and
Speaker 1: Erica on the special day. I would never take it away,
Speaker 1: any of this from you, because you get to enjoy
Speaker 1: another trip. Nine trips now for Tom Brady, uh the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. But if you if you're ever wondering, wait,
Speaker 1: why is Dan? Why is Mark? Why is so much
Speaker 1: of America salty? Is that nobody likes to see the
Speaker 1: house clean out good people on the other side of
Speaker 1: the table. And that's what happens. It feels like every January.
Speaker 1: It was remarkably similar. And yes, for our listeners, despite
Speaker 1: the lock, Dan was living and dying with that game
Speaker 1: as a Chiefs fan, as a Patriots fan, I don't
Speaker 1: blame you at all. Weston nailed it. It was satire
Speaker 1: on Thursday and a bit of a reverse jank. And
Speaker 1: if you thought I was actually rooting for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: you are listening to the wrong podcast or mentally deficient.
Speaker 1: I mean, read between the lines. I will never root
Speaker 1: for the Pats. So I was rooting card for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: And it got to the point where Gregg disappeared about
Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter, and it took a couple
Speaker 1: of seconds. Figure, oh, he's probably upstairs with the rick.
Speaker 1: About three minutes left doing the docy dough up here.
Speaker 1: I mean it was about three minutes left. Tim Posty
Speaker 1: hits me with the slack like he should just come
Speaker 1: up here, and I was like, oh yeah, like come
Speaker 1: up here. It's wicked fun up here. Life is short.
Speaker 1: Do I wanna sit in this uh newsroom? No like
Speaker 1: result good or bad? This this might be the last
Speaker 1: time they're in this spot, in this newsroom where everyone
Speaker 1: is against them, and you know, it's just like annoying
Speaker 1: sort of being surrounded as you guys can imagine, I
Speaker 1: mean for big Jets or Brown's games, or do I
Speaker 1: want to come up here with a with a charming,
Speaker 1: energetic Patriots fan here who I could enjoy that. I
Speaker 1: totally see why you shifted seats. Mark would have seen
Speaker 1: first when you got up like and you're like in
Speaker 1: your little sports coat and you like darted sheepest lee
Speaker 1: down the aisle with your with your lapt your laptop.
Speaker 1: I thought, where is Greg going in the middle of this?
Speaker 1: Like critical? Well that was then it was like okay,
Speaker 1: and you know what, I don't blame you because you
Speaker 1: were surrounded now, but you were surrounded by people that
Speaker 1: did not want your team to succeed. On any level,
Speaker 1: just the whole news froom. I think like there was
Speaker 1: like when the Patriots won, then there was an audible
Speaker 1: like nothingness in the room, just a few groans and
Speaker 1: no response. There was one moment where I thought it
Speaker 1: would be nice to be down there, and that was
Speaker 1: when Gronk made that catch down the sideline, because I
Speaker 1: would have liked to hear Chris Wesley's guttural enjoyment because
Speaker 1: he wasn't he He loves a good Gronk and Brady
Speaker 1: moment that play. But I was screaming and yelling at overtime,
Speaker 1: astonished at Tom Brady being in the zone and just
Speaker 1: unfurling one after another, impeccable ball placement on all of
Speaker 1: these throws. All right, great setup. You set the table
Speaker 1: nicely there, because the way I look at it, since
Speaker 1: I'm hosting the podcast, let's get this out of the way,
Speaker 1: all right and talk about the Patriots and Chiefs from
Speaker 1: Arrowhead Championships Sunday. Let's dig in. Shouldn't Grady undershutter and
Speaker 1: give the Burke and runs it left for the wind touchdown?
Speaker 1: Patriots himmer ball for Super Bowl fifty three. What a call?
Speaker 1: Soucie We're going back, baby, and already nothing you get
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Speaker 1: were super Bowl in five years, Packer backs, starre war busses.
Speaker 1: We're coming whole Boston. There's a human red bull can
Speaker 1: Scott Sola along with Bob Sochi of w b Z
Speaker 1: with the call. The Patriots recalling memories of their last
Speaker 1: Super Bowl conquest, one the overtime coin toss and march
Speaker 1: right down the field to glory, this time Brex burke
Speaker 1: Head scoring from two yards out the final play, and
Speaker 1: the Patriots win over the Chiefs at Arrowhead in the
Speaker 1: a f C title game. Tom Brady a surgeon during
Speaker 1: that final march and now begins prep for what will
Speaker 1: be his ninth Super Bowl. That is just stupid West
Speaker 1: Wild game, multiple lead changes, defenses that couldn't get a
Speaker 1: stop on either the side of the ball, and a
Speaker 1: legendary q B who came through yet again. Four fourth
Speaker 1: quarter lead changes, several replay reviews that looked like they
Speaker 1: could have gone either way. Another in a long line
Speaker 1: of two minute drill touchdown drives by Tom Brady, a
Speaker 1: thirty second field goal drive with two great throws by
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and then Tom tom Brady to start overtime.
Speaker 1: Has one of the best exhibitions of ball placement I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. And this man was in the platonic ideal
Speaker 1: of the athletic zone. He was there. He said before
Speaker 1: the playoffs started in the in their bye week that
Speaker 1: there's nothing in his life, in football or outside of it,
Speaker 1: that can replace the feeling that you have during the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And he has played like it the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: and the Patriots have played like it. They have played
Speaker 1: their best two games of the season in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and what stands out about those drives is they're so
Speaker 1: shorthanded on the outside. They're trying to throw it to
Speaker 1: door set. They're trying to count on Cordarrel Patterson to
Speaker 1: win off the line of scrimmage and catch a pass
Speaker 1: that they're getting into these third and long situations, and
Speaker 1: then who do you go to there? It's Julian Edelman,
Speaker 1: who was not as best for much of the season,
Speaker 1: and it's Gronk who had one of his, if not
Speaker 1: his best game of the season. They needed three touchdowns
Speaker 1: to win the game. On their last three drives. They
Speaker 1: got three touchdowns on their last three drives, and Edelman
Speaker 1: and Gronk had a hundred and six of the hundred
Speaker 1: forty seven yards on those three drives. It was those
Speaker 1: three guys and James White earlier in the game kind
Speaker 1: of the guys you think of as the Patriots in
Speaker 1: this now four to five year run where they keep
Speaker 1: making it back like it was more than that too,
Speaker 1: because for the second straight week, the Patriots coaching staff
Speaker 1: that should not be a shock to us, put on
Speaker 1: long stretches of minutes of dominant play and play calling
Speaker 1: with frankly a roster on offense that I think other
Speaker 1: coaching staffs would not be anywhere close to the a
Speaker 1: f C championship with some of the guys that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's throwing too. And for all, you know, the heat
Speaker 1: that we give New England and the exhaustion around whatever
Speaker 1: the experience is covering this team going back to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean, I think down the road, as
Speaker 1: a human being that loves football, you cannot help but
Speaker 1: look back on what Brady does in a game like this,
Speaker 1: where the whole narrative all week is, you know, understandably
Speaker 1: he's an older quarterback. It's gonna be twenty degrees, it's
Speaker 1: gonna feel like it's three degrees. You're going up against
Speaker 1: young Patrick Mahomes Holmes, who, like you know, it's impervious
Speaker 1: to cold, and Brady shrugged off all the elements. Mother
Speaker 1: nature can't take him out. And I think also the defense,
Speaker 1: which we kind of can gloss over because there's so
Speaker 1: many known quantities on offense played for the first half
Speaker 1: and in credible half of football until the Chiefs got
Speaker 1: their playing. They Chiefs put up twenty four points in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and Patrick Mahomes uh looked every bit
Speaker 1: the m v P in the second half of the
Speaker 1: first half though. Uh they didn't score um a point
Speaker 1: until late in the quarter. Right did they get a
Speaker 1: touchdown late in the quarters? Half fourteen? Nothing happened, thank you.
Speaker 1: They got on the board almost immediately in the third quarter. Um.
Speaker 1: I want to point out one more thing on this
Speaker 1: the Patriots that I think is overlook. Brady is brilliant
Speaker 1: and on that last drive, it it just felt, it
Speaker 1: just felt like it was done. The coin the coin
Speaker 1: flip which called heads, always called heads. Every ball like
Speaker 1: West is saying right where it needed to be. And
Speaker 1: I think what's not getting enough love, and certainly will
Speaker 1: because what else do you talk about the Patriots for
Speaker 1: two weeks now, which we have to do almost every
Speaker 1: year now. But the offensive line deserves a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for what they did these last two weeks. We
Speaker 1: know that Brady is old and slow and doesn't like
Speaker 1: getting hit. That hasn't changed just because now they're winning
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He still doesn't like it. But they too
Speaker 1: often if you're a Chiefs fan or if you're a
Speaker 1: Chargers fan, you just couldn't get near the guy. And
Speaker 1: that's just the credit to their line. Absolutely, And I
Speaker 1: want to touch back on what Mark said about the
Speaker 1: Patriots coaching staff. These are two of the most dominant
Speaker 1: first halfs you will ever see in the postseason, and
Speaker 1: they have forty feet downs versus thirty nine total plays
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs and Chargers in the first half of
Speaker 1: the last two games. They had more first down than
Speaker 1: the other teams had total plays in both games, and
Speaker 1: and Belichick talked about it after the game. They could
Speaker 1: have scored more points, they struggled in short yardage. Brady's
Speaker 1: interception on the goal line would have been the play
Speaker 1: that Patriots fans remembered if they went on to lose
Speaker 1: this game. But the Chiefs defense, which is was not
Speaker 1: great all day, by the end of that game, they
Speaker 1: were worn out. The Patriots ran ninety four plays, not
Speaker 1: even counting penalties, would have been even more nine four
Speaker 1: plays to forty seven for the Chiefs. The Patriots had
Speaker 1: more runs in a game then the Chiefs had plays.
Speaker 1: And it then made Patrick Mahomes need to be perfect
Speaker 1: late and that if they had won this game, the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: that is, it would have been such a great individual
Speaker 1: performance by Mahomes who made mistakes in the first half
Speaker 1: because for the most part, I think they beat good
Speaker 1: play calls that Mahomes won late in the down where
Speaker 1: it was just Mahomes magic. Other than the touchdown uh
Speaker 1: play where which came kind of on another controversial play.
Speaker 1: A million plays you could look back on. It was
Speaker 1: a pick play by the Chiefs. For the most part,
Speaker 1: their scheme wasn't winning. It was Mahomes winning. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say this because it's gonna seem like I'm
Speaker 1: just being salty, as Ricky and the millennials would say.
Speaker 1: But we're well after that game. If our Brilliums millennials
Speaker 1: say that people are being salty. That if anyone was
Speaker 1: out there watching our sky Sports hit right after the game,
Speaker 1: which was well after midnight in the UK, so it
Speaker 1: was it was a salty it was. It was a
Speaker 1: fun five minutes for me because it's right after the
Speaker 1: game and as salty as Dan and Mark have ever been.
Speaker 1: I feel like on air we're like an hour plus
Speaker 1: removed from that now. So everyone it was salty. Um,
Speaker 1: but this is what needs to be said. And I
Speaker 1: don't care Patriots fans, could you know, stick it up
Speaker 1: their butts. Luck is a big part of what's been
Speaker 1: an incredible ride from them as well. And every you
Speaker 1: could point to ten different plays and almost every year
Speaker 1: things that just seemed to go their way, and that's
Speaker 1: part of what drives the Patriots, drives you crazy as
Speaker 1: a Patriots hater. In this case, it was a play
Speaker 1: that will stick with the Chiefs and their fans and
Speaker 1: DeFord for the rest of their lives. And it was
Speaker 1: and it's funny how it changes everything. Joe Montana, I've
Speaker 1: talked about on this podcast before. Um Billups of the Bengals,
Speaker 1: the defensive back, let's a game ending interception, go through
Speaker 1: his hands. Um that keeps Joe Montan of the Niners
Speaker 1: alive in Super Bowl twenty three. So Joe Montan is
Speaker 1: not remembered for that interception. He's remembered as a guy
Speaker 1: could never get beaten in the Super Bowl. Gronk, who
Speaker 1: were saying, had a great game, and he did, and
Speaker 1: it was a bounce back effort offensively for Gronk if
Speaker 1: dfour doesn't line up with his foot in the neutral zone,
Speaker 1: which is an inexcusable play in the fourth quarter of
Speaker 1: the af C title game. This game is remembered as
Speaker 1: the end of Brady and Gronk because Gronk let the
Speaker 1: ball go right through his hands and into the opponent's
Speaker 1: hands for game ending interception. That is in the Chief's
Speaker 1: run my pain rankings years ago. That is as painful
Speaker 1: way to lose, and we saw two games that are
Speaker 1: very painful ways to lose today. But Chiefs fans will
Speaker 1: never forget d Ford and never forgive him for that play.
Speaker 1: I agree, But I also feel like seasons could pass
Speaker 1: where you find a Patriots player doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest moment and they are drummed into their
Speaker 1: heads the details, the little moments like that. I just
Speaker 1: I think it's it's believable from other teams, it's not
Speaker 1: believable from the Patriots, and they do create some of
Speaker 1: their own luck. I mean, I one sequence that there's
Speaker 1: more plays, but that is right that you could say
Speaker 1: both sides. That is the game deciding play with the
Speaker 1: Chiefs nursing a uh four point lead, but it was
Speaker 1: until it was third and nine on the very first
Speaker 1: overtime drive and you have throw a low percentage through
Speaker 1: then that's the game turning play. If the Chiefs make
Speaker 1: up the game over, if the if d Ford has
Speaker 1: his feet on the right side of the line. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it is what. It is undeniable that the
Speaker 1: Patriots have been lucky throughout this dynasty, but they've also
Speaker 1: that goes both ways, like if not for the helmet
Speaker 1: catch and Wes Welker's drop, they have two more super Yes.
Speaker 1: My answer for that is absolutely, And I think luck
Speaker 1: is underrated for how much it affects all of sports,
Speaker 1: especially the NFL, where it does come down to a
Speaker 1: few plays, it's a monster factor. But the part that's
Speaker 1: not lucky is putting yourself in position again and again
Speaker 1: because the Patriots and the and the Patriots have been
Speaker 1: on the other side not just of painful Super Bowl losses,
Speaker 1: but it paid for AFC Championship Game losses, which came
Speaker 1: down to a play where they could go pick out
Speaker 1: a luck, so that the magic is just kind of
Speaker 1: getting into that moment. The call that that got me
Speaker 1: agitated was the because it's not it is, let's even
Speaker 1: remove it from Patriots chief specific I just see too
Speaker 1: many of these roughing the pastor called the one that
Speaker 1: was on Chris Jones, where the replay shows in my
Speaker 1: mind Chris Jones, you know, following through with an attempt
Speaker 1: to swap the ball or get something on Brady and
Speaker 1: not really going for the head on any level, and
Speaker 1: ultimately it looks like his hand kind of just went
Speaker 1: on Brady's jersey and said, let me straighten that out
Speaker 1: for you, sir, before I get flagged for a killer penalty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that. The only time you heard Chris Jones
Speaker 1: his name today. I mean, you only heard I don't
Speaker 1: think I heard justin Houston. And you know what it is,
Speaker 1: it gets it gets so roughing the passer penalty that
Speaker 1: kicks started. I believe the drive that put the Patriots
Speaker 1: a head late, it would have been a third and
Speaker 1: seven for the Page Treats if they didn't get that call.
Speaker 1: But that that's kind of what I mean, is like,
Speaker 1: if you don't get that call and in Chiefs fans
Speaker 1: remember that call based on what Brady did on third
Speaker 1: down the rest of the game and overtime, especially at
Speaker 1: that point, it's like I would have trusted Brady to
Speaker 1: make the next place. That's why I'm sort of saying
Speaker 1: even remove it from this specific game, because it's just
Speaker 1: more that those calls don't really have a place in
Speaker 1: my mind in a huge moment like that, Like it's
Speaker 1: so redundant to say this every game before the Patriots
Speaker 1: square off against someone with a great pass rush, Oh well,
Speaker 1: this will be the team that finally makes life tough
Speaker 1: on Tom Brady. And you thought it was Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: and the Chargers, and then you thought today, oh the
Speaker 1: oh the team that can You know, they can't do
Speaker 1: a lot well on defense, but they have been playing
Speaker 1: well and they lead the league in sacks. You're gonna
Speaker 1: find a way in Arrowhead and guttingly freezing temperatures to
Speaker 1: make like a life uncomfortable for a forty one year
Speaker 1: old quarterback and they don't even get to them. I
Speaker 1: mean they almost had a Gholston, which long time listeners
Speaker 1: of the podcast means no QB hits, no sacks, depending
Speaker 1: on which stat service you trust, Jesus or ESPN. Derrek
Speaker 1: Nandi may have had a quarterback hit in this game,
Speaker 1: but the fact that he dropped back forty six times,
Speaker 1: he averaged two and a half seconds getting rid of
Speaker 1: the ball. So that's more Brady than the offensive line.
Speaker 1: But it was also the protection scheme, and Romo did
Speaker 1: a great job pointing out Grant Chipping, you know, the
Speaker 1: coach the best, Romo was unbelievable. And and Brady didn't
Speaker 1: leave the pocket one single time. So it's forty six
Speaker 1: times in the pocket without being touched, Like that's everything
Speaker 1: coming together. That's but it's Brady more than anyone. And
Speaker 1: like the the and that's why I love Romo is
Speaker 1: that he has a better feel for when the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are changing the play at the line of scrimmage, what
Speaker 1: they're changing you to How many times in this game
Speaker 1: did he point that out right before Brady made the
Speaker 1: perfect play call, including on a fourth uh and goal
Speaker 1: on the goal line where he changed it to a
Speaker 1: successful touchdown. It's like that's his magic. Like if you
Speaker 1: want to know his magic, that's his number one magic.
Speaker 1: That's Brady's man. It's I go back again to New
Speaker 1: England's coaching staff because they know that they have a
Speaker 1: quarterback that's not going to scamper free left and right,
Speaker 1: you know, rolling around the field and throwing sidearm like
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes if you if you do get to him,
Speaker 1: he's in hot water. And they find a way with
Speaker 1: a lot of offensive linemen that sometimes they rotate in
Speaker 1: and out. You don't even know who these guys are.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get touched. It's just like this is coaching.
Speaker 1: This like this is what the Rams are gonna have
Speaker 1: to deal with. And I think the keya to have
Speaker 1: to run at forty eight times. People like the Patriots
Speaker 1: went against every tendency that analytics say, don't run on
Speaker 1: first down. They ran on first down for much of
Speaker 1: the game and I think ultimate but here's and then
Speaker 1: they transition when it wasn't working. Here's my beef with
Speaker 1: how people use analytics. Analytics or to go against tendency.
Speaker 1: That's how analytics work. When everyone else is going one way,
Speaker 1: you go the other way because that's where the value is.
Speaker 1: Take it out of your hat, analytics. I do feel
Speaker 1: for Andy Read. You're confusing me. I don't know, Andy.
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for Randy Read. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1: That's a bummer, because here's the good news, Randy Reid.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is going to be on his team next
Speaker 1: year too. And you know what they need to do
Speaker 1: to get better. They need more impact players. And perhaps
Speaker 1: I did do a little web surfing. Do millennials still
Speaker 1: use web information Tampa. That's because I got to connect
Speaker 1: with the youth to get the podcast numbers. I know,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like we're kind of taking like a
Speaker 1: bit of a shot at them every time we kind
Speaker 1: of you say, I want to know. That is not
Speaker 1: the way I said it, That is how you seem
Speaker 1: to say it to me. I looked up a Chief
Speaker 1: subreddit just to see where the fans are at emotionally,
Speaker 1: and as you can imagine needed, as you can imagine, um,
Speaker 1: bitterly disappointed, still optimistic about the future with Mahomes there.
Speaker 1: But everybody wants Bob Sutton fired. But I don't even
Speaker 1: know like Bob Sutton their defensive coordinator. Obviously the Chiefs
Speaker 1: had no answers down the stretch. Great second half adjustment. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Also, it's like you could kill Bob
Speaker 1: Sutton for his defense giving up touchdown drives every possession
Speaker 1: down the stretch. But they're on the field for like
Speaker 1: a hundred play. It was the same. It was such
Speaker 1: a carbon copy. I'm sure you haven't grained in your head. Greg,
Speaker 1: how many plays did the Patriots run in the Falcon
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It was the same thing. Atlanta had nothing
Speaker 1: left in the tank by the end of the game.
Speaker 1: And uh, the coin toss. Really you could argue Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes never gets on the field and overtime, which is
Speaker 1: heartbreaking for the Chiefs, but that coin toss could have
Speaker 1: decided the game. I agree with that on the coin toss.
Speaker 1: But it all starts early, and that's when the Patriots
Speaker 1: coaches won. How good have the Chiefs been in the
Speaker 1: first quarter? How good has Andy Reid been at scripting plays?
Speaker 1: And they were bamboozle than the first Corps fifteen play,
Speaker 1: eight minute drive touched un so. So the Patriots start
Speaker 1: perfect on offense and the Chiefs, you know, start I
Speaker 1: think with two, three and ounce for the first time
Speaker 1: they had all year. The Patriots had a plan double
Speaker 1: double Hill, and they had Gilmore on on Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: In the second half, they had a different matchup. In
Speaker 1: the first half, they switched it up. They threw the
Speaker 1: ball eight times to those two guys. I mean, those
Speaker 1: are the two best players. They had four catches for
Speaker 1: sixty seven yard. They shut down those two guys. They
Speaker 1: it worked to perfection in the first half and the
Speaker 1: second half. They they had to take j. C. Jackson
Speaker 1: off at Kelsey because he was getting burnt. And that
Speaker 1: was j C. Jackson was leading all cornerbacks in opposing
Speaker 1: passer rating entering this game and he got fried three
Speaker 1: penalties in the fourth quarter alone. I mean, they I
Speaker 1: always kind of always, I'm not sure about the whole
Speaker 1: keep it away from Mahomes that's the way to do it,
Speaker 1: because ultimately still have to score more when you have
Speaker 1: the ball. But in the first half they only had
Speaker 1: the ball three times. I mean, that's kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: They punted off three. They only had nineteen plays that
Speaker 1: that was their first half. The Chiefs, I mean that
Speaker 1: when their first true drives went for negative two years
Speaker 1: after that they were the Chiefs, you know, after that
Speaker 1: they were the Chiefs, and then some I think that
Speaker 1: the Patriots, I mean, you know, everyone made a big
Speaker 1: deal as they should have last week when they came
Speaker 1: out against the Chargers with a seven plus minute drive
Speaker 1: opening drive touchdown, which was the longest in Bill Belichick's
Speaker 1: New England history. So they come out today when you
Speaker 1: kind of see what they've been doing to everyone and
Speaker 1: they have a longer drive. That record didn't even stand
Speaker 1: a full seven days. Um mentioned how the Chiefs did
Speaker 1: nothing in the first half. Mahomes, who was brilliant, as
Speaker 1: we said, in the second half, he takes a little
Speaker 1: blame for what happened in the first half. The one
Speaker 1: possession that really got away from him is he had
Speaker 1: the big completion of Tyreek Hill, who was very quiet
Speaker 1: in this game. As we said, Um, they were set
Speaker 1: up uh to get on the board. He misses a
Speaker 1: wide open was at Watkins, wide open, Sammy Watkins and
Speaker 1: then takes a bad and Williams on the wheel route
Speaker 1: and then takes a bad sack and that took him
Speaker 1: out of field goal range, so that they were they
Speaker 1: were out of sorts in the first half. But as
Speaker 1: out of sorts as they were in the first half.
Speaker 1: They scored a touchdown I think four plays into the
Speaker 1: third quarter, and at that point it was a totally
Speaker 1: different game. And they got the best game they've had
Speaker 1: all season from Sammy Watkins, who's been you know, banged up,
Speaker 1: and I think that had a lot to do with
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill being essentially at race. I mean, they scored
Speaker 1: twenty four points in the fourth quarter that they That
Speaker 1: is outrageous. He got the you know, Mahomes got the
Speaker 1: ball back needing a touchdown with three thirty two. He
Speaker 1: almost did it too fast, and then he got the
Speaker 1: ball back again with thirty nine seconds left and had
Speaker 1: two unbelievable plays that not that just about no quarterback
Speaker 1: is going to make and sets him up for overtime.
Speaker 1: The only thing I would have gotten on read a
Speaker 1: little bit was like, if I'm the Patriots, I'm afraid
Speaker 1: of them going for the end zone one more play
Speaker 1: And that's easy to that's easy to second guess. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, you have the sup you have the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl sitting there in front of you with eleven
Speaker 1: seconds left. I don't know that defensive alignment, though, was
Speaker 1: not designed to give up a play like that, and
Speaker 1: I having slashbacks from Miami, where like people just killed
Speaker 1: Belichick after the game for something going wrong, Read would
Speaker 1: have been killed if if the young quarterback forced one
Speaker 1: into cover brambling up to the line to try to,
Speaker 1: you know, get the to down the ball and end
Speaker 1: the clock, and the thing runs to zero, Read would
Speaker 1: be getting destroyed. What one of the images I will
Speaker 1: remember from today more than any other is Erica tam
Speaker 1: Posse dancing with her tam Posse jersey in back of
Speaker 1: the glass while we were about to do the sky hit,
Speaker 1: but Dan and Mark refusing to look up at her.
Speaker 1: I did not see this, gave you like a I'm
Speaker 1: happy for you. I don't know. Can we the house
Speaker 1: in black Jack wins? Congratulations? Thank you, I'll take that. Mark,
Speaker 1: Why didn't you come with me? Man really thought about it,
Speaker 1: but I kind of just said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna roll with the home team and thought that I
Speaker 1: was sitting pretty after the road team won the first
Speaker 1: game today. Spoiler alert, last thoughts, Yeah, can we stand
Speaker 1: in all of Tom Brady and put his greatness into
Speaker 1: perspective for a minute here, Mike Giardi, are our Patriots
Speaker 1: reporter on NFL Network said that he entered the facility
Speaker 1: early in the week and said announced to everyone, I'm
Speaker 1: the baddest mother trucker on the planet when he walked
Speaker 1: into the door. And then Julian Edelman says he proceeded
Speaker 1: the practice all week better than he has at any
Speaker 1: time all season. He now, this is where he stands
Speaker 1: against his competition, and as a quarterback legend. Twenty eight
Speaker 1: more touchdowns, seventy eight more yards yards, thirteen more victories,
Speaker 1: and four more Super Bowl appearances than any other quarterback
Speaker 1: in postseason history is more yeah, wow, more appearances than Montana.
Speaker 1: They're the same that Montana even made it. And since
Speaker 1: his thirty fifth birthday, he's his numbers stack up against
Speaker 1: anyone's for their career just about. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you have to consider him like a Michael Jordan's level
Speaker 1: player in his spot. I agree with that. And speaking
Speaker 1: of putting greatness in perspective, every legendary chapter that gets
Speaker 1: added to this books every year only enhances the greatness
Speaker 1: of what Eli Manning and Tom coflin off and two
Speaker 1: separate Super bowls. I mean, it just enhances Eli's Hall
Speaker 1: of fame candidacy, It just it makes Coughlin look like
Speaker 1: even more of a genius. But does yeah to me now,
Speaker 1: like and I'll say this, if the Patriots lose on
Speaker 1: Suer Bowl Sunday too, that enhanced like the losses enhanced
Speaker 1: Brady's reputation too, because I was thinking about that and
Speaker 1: you're like, you don't want to see your team losing
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and they're kind of boring to cover
Speaker 1: and and all that stuff. But to have this performance,
Speaker 1: like they could go lose forty one to nothing in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and to have this sort of performance,
Speaker 1: which to me is up there with anything that Brady
Speaker 1: has done. To do it another, to do something you
Speaker 1: haven't done before, win on the road like this, it's
Speaker 1: for Gronk to have that moment. And like when everyone
Speaker 1: was making retirement jokes about it, no matter what happens
Speaker 1: in the next one, to back the truck up, just
Speaker 1: retirement jokes about Gronky nothing. If they lose forty one
Speaker 1: nothing in the super Bowl, no one is going to
Speaker 1: care about this game or the least, but I will, like,
Speaker 1: and I we're talking about the larger reflection of Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: If they walk in and get blank forty one nothing.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna remember that they beat the Charger. It's
Speaker 1: it's an it's an extreme example, but I did is extreme.
Speaker 1: I do think that that is the sign of greatness
Speaker 1: showing up that many different times and you have to
Speaker 1: show up and you lose something like if you that
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose some super you show up nine times.
Speaker 1: Speaking of black jack, this is what we cannot We're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing this for two when the Patriots, When
Speaker 1: the Patriots make the super Bowl, it is very for
Speaker 1: Patriot haters like Mark myself, when they make this, when
Speaker 1: they make the super Bowl, it's like doubling down in blackjack,
Speaker 1: because there's nothing better than a Patriots lost in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But there's nothing worse than the Patriots one thing,
Speaker 1: because there were multiple of that we've been to where
Speaker 1: I was like rooting for Tom Brady and you've been
Speaker 1: conflicted over the years. I can tell you really respect
Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady, but you seem to just be exhausted
Speaker 1: by this. I it's just like I said on on
Speaker 1: Sky Sports, it's not the game itself because they played
Speaker 1: these amazing super bowls. It is and it is. It
Speaker 1: is fun to go to the super Bowl. No matter what,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great time. But I just sometimes
Speaker 1: like news stories and fresh stories. That's all. It's not
Speaker 1: even really a complaint. It's just an observation of like
Speaker 1: the run up to the Super Bowl is always slightly
Speaker 1: absurd for whoever's involved, and it's gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: this is even like going to take all the Sean
Speaker 1: McVeigh think pieces that are coming at us, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna dampen all those and put them in
Speaker 1: the background because it's gonna be another Brady thing. No,
Speaker 1: you got it all wrong. It's gonna be the young
Speaker 1: genius against the old will be. It will be, but
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Sean mcveigh's stage alone on any levels.
Speaker 1: Because of this, it's going to be an annoying like
Speaker 1: the narrative writers are gonna have either way, because either
Speaker 1: the Patriots kind of dot the dynasty by you know,
Speaker 1: coming back around Brady seventeen years later against the Rams,
Speaker 1: or the Rams like end the dynasty by kind of
Speaker 1: coming back around the Patriots are back the next year. Stupid,
Speaker 1: there's the stupid. Don't put any dot or explanation point
Speaker 1: on the Patriots. Is it just gonna go on forever? Right?
Speaker 1: This is no dot beatific Eric there, I feel like,
Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, weeks of this too, Mark,
Speaker 1: you want new stories. You've never been to a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl that the Patriots have won? With me? Why can't
Speaker 1: you just be happy? Why can't you see how happy?
Speaker 1: You're the person that I'm would be agitated at. But
Speaker 1: it's just it's We've done this with Greg five or
Speaker 1: six times. About Greg. I'm asking you for good luck,
Speaker 1: forget about him. He's gonna be in my ear for
Speaker 1: like in the next forty hours. We got to move on.
Speaker 1: But I'll remember this when Baker Mayfield's at his ninth
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I'll start being all cranky in your year
Speaker 1: when you're well that four years old. Yeah, we will
Speaker 1: be in our sixties at that point. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's move on to the other title game today, played
Speaker 1: earlier at the Supernome. He seven yard try to win
Speaker 1: the NFC championship game. Behold, he's down, The kick clears
Speaker 1: the line and Greg Zerline s super Bowl play for
Speaker 1: the Lombardy kspns j B long with the call, Greg
Speaker 1: the leg zer line tilled a fifty seven yard field
Speaker 1: goal with room to spare, the decider in the Rams
Speaker 1: three overtime win over the Saints in the NFC Title Game.
Speaker 1: It was the first and only lead for the Rams
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You battled back from a third teen nothing
Speaker 1: first half deficit to secure their first Super Bowl birth
Speaker 1: since the two thousand one season. A lot to get
Speaker 1: into here, including a no call that will haunt the
Speaker 1: Saints forever, but let's start here. The Rams found a
Speaker 1: way to win a game in which Todd Gurley had
Speaker 1: just five touches markets a testament to a team that
Speaker 1: we heard all season lives and dies by Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: Well they lived without him. There's a lot to as
Speaker 1: you said, touch on in this and we can. Yes,
Speaker 1: That's why I said that I'll open with just this.
Speaker 1: This reminded me of what the Saints did a week ago,
Speaker 1: where the Saints got into a fourteen nothing hole against
Speaker 1: the Eagles and showed I thought, great resilience at home
Speaker 1: to find their sea legs on offense and do just
Speaker 1: enough to win that game. This Rams team, we we
Speaker 1: asked all week what would it be like to play
Speaker 1: in the Superdome? Well, they came in earlier in the
Speaker 1: year and put up a bunch of points. So maybe
Speaker 1: all this stuff about crowd noises totally overblown, but this
Speaker 1: was one of the more lathered up, uh fiery crowds
Speaker 1: that I can remember ever really watching in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and it visibly threw the Rams off their step. Early on.
Speaker 1: There was like they couldn't legitimately there was the communication
Speaker 1: issues in Golf's helmet that they had to deal with,
Speaker 1: but they showed them over and over, and I thought, Trakman,
Speaker 1: you know, because he's been there, he could see what
Speaker 1: was happening. They couldn't even get the play out in
Speaker 1: the huddle, and it put Golf into a situation where
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Sean McVeigh, you know, throwing ce poems
Speaker 1: into his ear and let's put up fifty points. It
Speaker 1: was like having to find your way out of that
Speaker 1: morass without your best player operating, and look almost mysteriously
Speaker 1: on the sideline because you find out that Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: simply trusted C. J. Anderson more down the stretch in
Speaker 1: that game. And I'll let you guys unpack some of
Speaker 1: the other stuff, but I thought that the Rams, who
Speaker 1: you know, at times have been on my radar. This
Speaker 1: is the kind of game where you cannot help but
Speaker 1: believe in them entirely with the way they handled one
Speaker 1: of the toughest environments to play in, one of one
Speaker 1: of the most surprising. We'll get to all the controversy stuff,
Speaker 1: but the surprising, most surprising thing in this game to
Speaker 1: me is that both defenses really won. I mean, neither
Speaker 1: team could run the ball at all. Neither quarterback I
Speaker 1: would say played a great game or even like a
Speaker 1: B plus game for how talented they are. The two
Speaker 1: defenses one, but the Rams defense won more. I mean
Speaker 1: the Fowler Sue Donald Brockers made a few more plays
Speaker 1: to get to the point where it's thirteen nothing. They
Speaker 1: they stopped them early after the Rams turnover, which put
Speaker 1: the Saints on a short field that was huge. And
Speaker 1: then in the final four drives the Saints had three points.
Speaker 1: I mean the final seven drives they had ten points.
Speaker 1: They really weren't the Saints offense, which I was more
Speaker 1: surprised by that than anything, because I just thought the
Speaker 1: Rams would have to have a great offensive day to win,
Speaker 1: and they didn't. They wanted anyways, with one of the
Speaker 1: great kick in NFL history. That's been overlooked a little
Speaker 1: bit too much in the post game because of all
Speaker 1: the controversial calls. Let's talk about the elephant in the
Speaker 1: room here, which is the non call. That's how Unfortunately
Speaker 1: it will not be remembered for Greg the Legs bomb,
Speaker 1: which it should be because that was an incredible kick,
Speaker 1: one of the best we've ever seen in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but will be remembered for the no call on Rams
Speaker 1: defensive back Nickel Robie Coleman, who late in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter with the Saints UH in good position to run
Speaker 1: the clock all the way down UH near the Rams
Speaker 1: goal line and kick the potential game winning field goal.
Speaker 1: Robie Coleman sprints towards the sideline to cover Tommy Lee
Speaker 1: Lewis on a wheel route, collides with him UH seconds
Speaker 1: before the ball gets very clear penalty. UH. Look too,
Speaker 1: fans in the stadium, people watching at home, jeans sterritor
Speaker 1: in the booth, and even the NFL because after the game,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton UH said this just getting up the phone
Speaker 1: with the league office. They blew the call. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there was ever a more obvious past interference
Speaker 1: call and the result of this was clock stops. It
Speaker 1: leaves enough they still kicked the field goal to go ahead,
Speaker 1: but it leaves enough time for the Saints to go
Speaker 1: down and tie the game. So this is the the
Speaker 1: play that will this game will be remembered by Sean
Speaker 1: Payton devastated after the game because he knows that the
Speaker 1: flag comes out there. The Saints are probably preparing for
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl right now. Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 1: If we were playing pick up football in the backyard,
Speaker 1: the team that commuted the file, I mean it was
Speaker 1: it was his obvious a call, um, And how we
Speaker 1: can two guys can look at that and come up
Speaker 1: and arrive with their decision. And it happened, though, so
Speaker 1: you can't dwell on it. Um, yere we you know,
Speaker 1: we probably never get over it. You know. The truth
Speaker 1: is you're you always some of these losses like this,
Speaker 1: but one one like that, Um, that's it's too bad.
Speaker 1: It was a third down from the twelve yard line
Speaker 1: with one forty eight play scored, tied at twenty uh
Speaker 1: and the incompletion and lack of a first down allowed
Speaker 1: the Rims a chance. Robie Coleman West after the game said, yes,
Speaker 1: I got there. Too early. I was beat and I
Speaker 1: was trying to save the touchdown. You don't see that
Speaker 1: admission too often. Should have been called pass interference, could
Speaker 1: have been called defenseless receiver, could have been called helmet
Speaker 1: The helmet could have been called unnecessary roughness. Take your pick.
Speaker 1: The magnitude of the missed call is such that I
Speaker 1: guarantee you there will be discussions about changing the rules
Speaker 1: on what can be challenged and what can't be This
Speaker 1: is the history of the NFL and rule changes going
Speaker 1: back to even like the seventies and Mike Renfroze catching
Speaker 1: the oiler Steelers Championship game that eventually led to instant
Speaker 1: replay review. Um, these things happen, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: a horrible, horrible injustice, And it's really gonna take some
Speaker 1: of the attention away of Drew Brees coming up short
Speaker 1: with that pass and John Payton getting too cute with
Speaker 1: his play calling at the end of the game. Those
Speaker 1: two guys should be wearing goat horns and instead the
Speaker 1: referees will be Yeah, that's It brings up something that
Speaker 1: I really believe in Belichick. Maybe it's because Belichick says
Speaker 1: it so much that it never comes down like it
Speaker 1: does come down to one play. But I refuse to
Speaker 1: believe that everything that happened before, and that especially everything
Speaker 1: that happened after it is invalidated by that one call,
Speaker 1: which was in you like all of these things can
Speaker 1: be true. It was absolutely a miscalled. Belichick, for what
Speaker 1: it's worth, has proposed officially at annual meetings that every
Speaker 1: place should be reviewable, and I think he probably will again,
Speaker 1: And that's really want that I don't necessary I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily want that. But what I mean is, though to
Speaker 1: your point, the Saints have a first down there where
Speaker 1: Sean Payton calls a pass instead of running it twice
Speaker 1: to kind of burn the Rams time outs and then
Speaker 1: maybe throwing it on third down, and Drew Brees short
Speaker 1: arms a throw that he hits one Saints fan like
Speaker 1: hit me up with he that he hit a two
Speaker 1: nine fifty times. That play came directly after Drew Brees
Speaker 1: short armed a deep throw to Ted Ginn that Ted
Speaker 1: Ginn ended up making a play on because LaMarcus Joiner
Speaker 1: didn't go after the ball secondly short armed it. I
Speaker 1: just don't think he has the arm for it, okay,
Speaker 1: which because I think his armstrack limitations were exposed down
Speaker 1: the stretch of this season, so Alvin Kamara has a
Speaker 1: no gain the next play. So all of these these
Speaker 1: things happen, and in overtime, the Saints get the ball first.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could be talking about, oh, they're lucky
Speaker 1: because they won the coin toss there, but no, Dante
Speaker 1: Fowler gets pressure on Breeze, causes an interception, and the
Speaker 1: Rams go win the game with one of the great kicks.
Speaker 1: So it's like all of that happening doesn't invalidate it,
Speaker 1: but it's it's might be the worst call. It's certainly
Speaker 1: the most memorable miss call since the tuck rule, which
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a miss call. But I think, just
Speaker 1: like the most memorable play, I think that Cowboys will
Speaker 1: I don't think that's quite there, but yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with you, Greg. I will say I think that
Speaker 1: the experience of the average sports fan um and by average,
Speaker 1: I don't mean unremarkable people, just you're you're you're running
Speaker 1: the mill people watching, okay, watching games like out at bar,
Speaker 1: you're out trying to pay. You're out there with a
Speaker 1: bunch of Saints fans, and this call happens the response
Speaker 1: in a big, crowded, packed sports bar or in that
Speaker 1: stadium is not And I hear where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: But you know what, here's twenty five other things that
Speaker 1: could have gone differently. It's like a totally blown call
Speaker 1: at when the team on the threshold of making what
Speaker 1: is clearly most likely going to be the last real
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run that you're gonna get from Breeze and
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. So I totally get the outrage. Fans have
Speaker 1: a right to be outraged and not be totally centered.
Speaker 1: We watch these games in an office sober for the
Speaker 1: most part, you know, breaking down all the ifs, hants
Speaker 1: and butts in the room. I'm just saying, like, like,
Speaker 1: at least sober minded and that we're not going crazy.
Speaker 1: So we lose our cool too. But it's like this,
Speaker 1: the average sportsman cannot be asked to pick apart for
Speaker 1: thousands other scenarios to nullify the fact that that was
Speaker 1: a terrible call. It was ross call. I think one
Speaker 1: of the most distasteful aspects of our job is every
Speaker 1: Monday morning having to cover ad nauseum controversial calls and
Speaker 1: fans are always two worked up about it. In this case,
Speaker 1: it's an exception. I think they have every right to
Speaker 1: be upset and think that their team got robbed, and
Speaker 1: they should have one. Let's talk about other aspects of
Speaker 1: the game. Obviously, that is such a huge part of
Speaker 1: this game, but there are other parts to talk about,
Speaker 1: like the fact that the Saints came very close to
Speaker 1: running the Rams out of the building. Uh. And to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles credit and the riots outside l A is
Speaker 1: on fire right now, not literally, but I mean the
Speaker 1: fans are just going nuts here, just kidding. It's very
Speaker 1: quiet outside, but how do you know I went for
Speaker 1: a walk to seven eleven before very quiet? Uh, this
Speaker 1: is every Culver City is a pretty quiet place, unless
Speaker 1: like there are people lined up outside the gun store
Speaker 1: that I like. I said, it's very quiet outside. Thirteen
Speaker 1: nothing okay, Uh, fourteen three to play in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: the Rams facing a fourth and five at their own
Speaker 1: thirty okay. And I got issues with Sean mcveigh's decision
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal in the fourth quarter. Uh
Speaker 1: when he should have went for it. Uh. He took
Speaker 1: the tie instead of going for the jugular and it
Speaker 1: would have cost him and but he got bailed out
Speaker 1: by that bogus call. That's that's him not hanging the onions,
Speaker 1: which really surprised me. But he absolutely hung onions in
Speaker 1: this spot. Johnny Hecker, who never lets him down. Uh
Speaker 1: passes to shields a big game that got them, lead
Speaker 1: to them getting on the board, and once they got
Speaker 1: the game back under control um and got the game
Speaker 1: to thirteen ten late in the second quarter, they have
Speaker 1: a touchdown drive everything. They were fine from that point on,
Speaker 1: but this game was this close. And I even I
Speaker 1: tweeted him that this game was teetering on the brink
Speaker 1: of another disappointing playoff game, and it just changed after
Speaker 1: that fake punt call. I just I think that you're
Speaker 1: exactly right, Dan, I. And the one thing about that
Speaker 1: the rams On offense showing resilience. But I thought by
Speaker 1: the time they got to overtime that Goff was more
Speaker 1: comfortable than he had been had been growing to that,
Speaker 1: and he made a couple of big money throws in
Speaker 1: this game. The dart the thirty six yard over the
Speaker 1: shoulder one to Brandon Cooks was beautiful. He got Gerald
Speaker 1: Everett going with a like a catch and rumble thirty
Speaker 1: nine yard or he hit Josh Reynolds for a thirty
Speaker 1: three yarder. I mean, they made some big games in
Speaker 1: the big plays in the passing game when they needed
Speaker 1: it most. At the two throws that Goff made against
Speaker 1: pressure in overtime were where plays like I don't expect
Speaker 1: from him because those are plays that really he beat
Speaker 1: what was the right play call two times. I mean
Speaker 1: those were the two plays I remember most from the
Speaker 1: Rams offense in this game because he has a free
Speaker 1: rusher coming at him and he does a pretty athletic
Speaker 1: move with to flip his hips to get out of
Speaker 1: the way and get the ball going. I don't think
Speaker 1: he gets I think he is a great quarterback. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's one of the best in the league,
Speaker 1: but I think he is four years old too. Especially
Speaker 1: those he is such great form and great technique, and
Speaker 1: he just looks like he has He's so well put
Speaker 1: together as a quarterback. If you give him time. Every
Speaker 1: time he got a clear path, he was putting it
Speaker 1: right on the money. It was seeing him play and
Speaker 1: seeing Brady play. It was a lot of fun and
Speaker 1: it helps I think it helps his story. When Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley had the game he had where it was on
Speaker 1: golf more than you would have wanted it to be
Speaker 1: to make those throws down the stretch. What did Gurley said?
Speaker 1: I had a sorry games something like that drops um.
Speaker 1: He got away with a hold on Eli Apple on
Speaker 1: a play that should have been a sack. It was
Speaker 1: great to find out what's going on with Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: And he's gonna have two weeks if you're telling me
Speaker 1: it was just a coach's decision to take out a
Speaker 1: guy that's the best player on the team. I would
Speaker 1: be surprised that there wasn't something physical going on that
Speaker 1: he he was on the bike on the sideline, but
Speaker 1: he was not playing well and and only touched the
Speaker 1: ball five times. That that maybe that he's not hud.
Speaker 1: He ended up playing only four snaps, less than than Anderson.
Speaker 1: He was the lowest graded player on the Rams offense
Speaker 1: on the entire team by a decent amount of party
Speaker 1: profile focus. He he struggled in that game, and they
Speaker 1: were clearly running better up the middle, which is more
Speaker 1: of what Anderson does versus their zone scheme where they're
Speaker 1: usually an outside running team. And they didn't really try
Speaker 1: it that hard because the Saints defense, which you talked
Speaker 1: up West and I think played really well overall. I
Speaker 1: mean they would not. They both teams could not run
Speaker 1: the ball at all, Like they both had to sort
Speaker 1: of give up on the run. When the Saints couldn't
Speaker 1: do anything except have Alvin Kamara beat whoever was assigned
Speaker 1: to him. That was their offense. A great team when
Speaker 1: for the Rams, but spinning back to Greg the legs
Speaker 1: erline and you know, I'm on the kicking corner. Let's
Speaker 1: let's call attention to that play because that drive in
Speaker 1: overtime for the Rams, they got they got the interception
Speaker 1: from Breeze when they got pressure on Breeze led to
Speaker 1: the turnover. They get great field position, they don't move
Speaker 1: the ball much. I think they got maybe fifteen yards,
Speaker 1: they got a first down and maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: more in that range, and that is exactly fifty they were.
Speaker 1: It was a no brainer to attempt the field goal
Speaker 1: in the Dome, but it also was highly risky because
Speaker 1: if Greg the leg doesn't get it done there, the
Speaker 1: Saints are set up at midfield at all, only nating
Speaker 1: field goal, so the season is really on the line.
Speaker 1: And two people to credit Johnny Hecker, it was a
Speaker 1: low snap that he handled, and then Greg's urline. This
Speaker 1: does not the fact that Jared Goff and I know
Speaker 1: he's the quarterback, and I just said he's a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: All that the fact that he's the one that they're
Speaker 1: talking to right after the game, and then at the
Speaker 1: podium with Terry Bradshaw in the locker room after the game,
Speaker 1: they have all these gabronies up on the stage. Greg's Airline.
Speaker 1: Greg's air Line drilled a fifties seven yard field goal
Speaker 1: to put his team into the super Bowl that had
Speaker 1: fifteen yards to spare. Nobody was even really talking about it,
Speaker 1: but interview. A guy like Cody Parkey misses the field
Speaker 1: goal and he's the biggest villain in the world and
Speaker 1: he goes on the Today Show and he gets fired
Speaker 1: and all that. Why don't the kickers get more love
Speaker 1: when they do? This is the equivalent of making an
Speaker 1: incredible like a helmet catch or something drolling a field
Speaker 1: goal like that at those stakes. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: Greg the leg isn't a legend. Right now, you're gonna
Speaker 1: retire his number. The rams are I should go ahead.
Speaker 1: I don't want to shake you to your very core here.
Speaker 1: Davice but Justin Tucker wasn't the best kicker in the
Speaker 1: NFL last season that it was Greg's rline last year.
Speaker 1: You're saying the two thousand seventeen season, Greg's airline, he
Speaker 1: didn't get injured at the end of the year, would
Speaker 1: have broken the points record because he was phenomenal. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's one of the great kicks. And we needed the
Speaker 1: NBC graphic which says good from whatever, because that would
Speaker 1: it felt like it felt like it had been good
Speaker 1: from seventy two and Saints fans who probably aren't really
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, I hate to break it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Garrett Hartley no longer has the greatest kick in Superdome history.
Speaker 1: That's that's the greatest kick in w Really, Greg, that
Speaker 1: was savage? Was that good? Art? I didn't know you're
Speaker 1: gonna turn hell on on the I mean, I'd just
Speaker 1: say it was a great kick. What will your buddy
Speaker 1: Adam think? Now he's definitely Greg's. He'll turn on the
Speaker 1: Saints and like them since they won the superth You can,
Speaker 1: like a lot of things, something happens, Okay, yeah, what
Speaker 1: did happen there? This is like this the legend of
Speaker 1: me and spice Rack in Vegas. You guys always think
Speaker 1: there's something more to the story. Well that's with me
Speaker 1: and with you and the Saints. Well you just basically
Speaker 1: acknowledged that there is more to that. Maybe maybe there is,
Speaker 1: maybe there isn't good work, don't We work with enough
Speaker 1: television producers at this point to where I like your
Speaker 1: kicking argument that if if there is someone's in their ear,
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, listen, we've got Gregg the leg but
Speaker 1: we also have Jared Goff right here. Which one do
Speaker 1: you want? They'll take off? Well? Can it be a
Speaker 1: simple Is that right? No? But that's what the that's
Speaker 1: that's what TV produces can be as simple as like
Speaker 1: the Rams are new, and just like you're sick of
Speaker 1: the Pages, I'm not sick of Drew Brees. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: a little sick of Drew Brees. I'm not sick of
Speaker 1: the rest of the Saints. Like the Rams are new,
Speaker 1: like McVeigh, like it's just on the podium next to
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw interview Craig. The legs are line a lot
Speaker 1: of television. It's not a bad idea man in a
Speaker 1: fifty seven yard field goal to send his team into
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, put up on television, and Dan's going
Speaker 1: for that pull quote. I'm way too dangerous. I think
Speaker 1: you're like, Dan's going for the Emmy. That's his Oscar
Speaker 1: clip right there. Um pull quote. It's gonna be out
Speaker 1: there in forty minutes. Anything else boys from this game, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to say something more about the Rams defense.
Speaker 1: They have completely shut down the ground attacks of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Saints the past two weeks. This defense was
Speaker 1: mediocre all year and since it keep Tilap came back,
Speaker 1: I really think they've They've up their level of play.
Speaker 1: You see and Dompkins sue playing like an all Pro again,
Speaker 1: and Dante Fowler for the last month and a half
Speaker 1: has been really disruptive behind Thomas had thirty six yards
Speaker 1: in this game. My my one last thing would just
Speaker 1: be at McVeigh for all the hype that he's gotten
Speaker 1: delivered in such a big moment, not not just the
Speaker 1: field goal, but field goal change, which is is something
Speaker 1: like the coaches giving his team to change the game.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a coaching and bones obviously Jim Fassel,
Speaker 1: their special teams coordinator, but also the play call on
Speaker 1: that beautiful throw that golf made where he's creating a
Speaker 1: mismatch between Josh Reynolds and to Mario Davis, that's a
Speaker 1: coaching play, Like, that's a coaching win. And the other
Speaker 1: one that stands out is in in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: he decides to burn a time out pretty early in
Speaker 1: the game to take a time out on third and
Speaker 1: four and what is He set up a thirty nine
Speaker 1: yard play to Gerald Everett that absolutely beat him. I mean,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of moments where McVeigh just kind
Speaker 1: of one and delivered on all the hype. I wanna
Speaker 1: also shout out to Lakisha. Oh yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel I really do. I'm bummed for Saints fans because
Speaker 1: they got robbed. But Lakisha like got up early this morning.
Speaker 1: She was so excited. She left really to go to
Speaker 1: a bar and get the table because she said, this
Speaker 1: is the biggest game of my life. She hadn't been
Speaker 1: a big, die hard football fan for the greatest show
Speaker 1: on turf years like she was. She was on cloud
Speaker 1: nine entering this game so nervous and excited. And to
Speaker 1: see her reaction from the Rams one. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: retweeted West, but if you if you haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I also retweeted Lakisha's reaction immediately after the game that
Speaker 1: that was really nice to see because she's such a
Speaker 1: rare fan in the sense that she lived in St. Louis,
Speaker 1: moves to l A and the team follows her. The
Speaker 1: people left behind in St. Louis probably a little more
Speaker 1: conflicted seeing Stan Cronky on that podium instead of Gregg's airline.
Speaker 1: By the way him being celebrated, I can understand the
Speaker 1: frustration there, But Lakisha, Uh, this is a special team
Speaker 1: for especially so West's credit. We were up here doing
Speaker 1: the sky hit in the middle of the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and I started to pick up for the first time
Speaker 1: that west was rooting for the Rams, even though he
Speaker 1: was happy for the Rams, rooting for the Rams, even
Speaker 1: though he locked up the Saints and the lock competition,
Speaker 1: the love of his life mattered more to him than that. Well,
Speaker 1: he's also got to deal with her all week long.
Speaker 1: If they lose, forget the love you could here's just
Speaker 1: to play devil's advocate. If Westwood had didn't just a
Speaker 1: loyal uh to his woman and just got behind the team,
Speaker 1: he'd be tied with Mark going into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a fair criticism, and I think you're
Speaker 1: setting the bar very low for acceptable like fiance behavior.
Speaker 1: Of course I'm gonna I mean, she's gonna get way
Speaker 1: more value out of going to the Super Bowl in
Speaker 1: her team winning, then I'm gonna get for some block
Speaker 1: competition on a podcast all Erica, We're also happy for you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Erica and I locked up the road jogs
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Speaker 1: from the City Winery in Atlanta. Tickets still available, but
Speaker 1: they are running low. I'm I'm hearing. I saw Ricky's
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Speaker 1: very cool it seems a good venue. So the info
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Speaker 1: significant other changed her flight to a day earlier to
Speaker 1: get there to witness this, So what does the you
Speaker 1: don't f it up pressure wise, And she's sitting there,
Speaker 1: she's like, this is the man that that will sink
Speaker 1: or float our family financially with his ability to be
Speaker 1: a broadcaster, and like you feel that energy comes She's
Speaker 1: looking at you, She's like, is he going to be
Speaker 1: the star? Is he gonna come up big? Or is
Speaker 1: he gonna melt under the lights? Are you gonna feel
Speaker 1: that energy? I mean, when you're married to someone, they
Speaker 1: see you fail so often and so consistently that whatever
Speaker 1: I do with that shown no, not at all, but
Speaker 1: like it's not going to change any impressions at all.
Speaker 1: It's just like roll in, get it done, check the box,
Speaker 1: have a nice time, on to the next day, all right.
Speaker 1: And I think I'll think it's hot. We'll see I
Speaker 1: think she'll like seeing her man up there on stage,
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be a great night. And
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Speaker 1: piece of work. Erica. All right, that's it. Well, all right,
Speaker 1: here's the schedule for the week. Uh, Tuesday Twitter show,
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Speaker 1: course our sixth annual post Super Bowl wrap up show
Speaker 1: from Megatron's. But I'd argue too many, too much contact
Speaker 1: many shows. That's a nick name for the Falcon Stadium,
Speaker 1: the roof, the facility, the roof opens up. Not Calvin.
Speaker 1: That's like the actual initial, the actual Megatron. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it, fake robot that's in a movie. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not not the football player. I was definitely thinking Calvin
Speaker 1: Johnson and I just didn't get it. All right, this
Speaker 1: is a good time to get out. This is Dan
Speaker 1: Hands a signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the
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