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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, The Patriots make the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I have joined in

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg rosefal What is up? Boys and Championships Sunday? In

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Speaker 1: the books Historic Championship Sunday. Two overtime games played sudden

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Speaker 1: death football with the Super Bowl on the line, and uh, almost,

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Speaker 1: from my opinion, almost a perfect day of football. It

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Speaker 1: didn't quite work out. The the Patriots are moving on again.

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Speaker 1: Well's say your team, Dan is moving on. I got

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Speaker 1: the lock covers that threw your way behind them. I

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Speaker 1: threw my way behind him and I and I did

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Speaker 1: get the lock. But there's an old Bill Simmons, you know,

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Speaker 1: who's one of the more influential Boston sports writers in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. He used to say it

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Speaker 1: over and over again, back in the day before Boston

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Speaker 1: started winning titles in every sport every year, when he

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Speaker 1: would lament the existence of the Yankees, he said, rooting

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Speaker 1: for the Yankees is like rooting for the house in blackjack.

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Speaker 1: It's a great quote, and I think that Greg and

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Speaker 1: Erica on the special day. I would never take it away,

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Speaker 1: any of this from you, because you get to enjoy

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Speaker 1: another trip. Nine trips now for Tom Brady, uh the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. But if you if you're ever wondering, wait,

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Speaker 1: why is Dan? Why is Mark? Why is so much

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Speaker 1: of America salty? Is that nobody likes to see the

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Speaker 1: house clean out good people on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the table. And that's what happens. It feels like every January.

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Speaker 1: It was remarkably similar. And yes, for our listeners, despite

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Speaker 1: the lock, Dan was living and dying with that game

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Speaker 1: as a Chiefs fan, as a Patriots fan, I don't

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Speaker 1: blame you at all. Weston nailed it. It was satire

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Speaker 1: on Thursday and a bit of a reverse jank. And

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Speaker 1: if you thought I was actually rooting for the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: you are listening to the wrong podcast or mentally deficient.

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Speaker 1: I mean, read between the lines. I will never root

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Speaker 1: for the Pats. So I was rooting card for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And it got to the point where Gregg disappeared about

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Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter, and it took a couple

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Speaker 1: About three minutes left doing the docy dough up here.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was about three minutes left. Tim Posty

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Speaker 1: up here, and I was like, oh yeah, like come

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Speaker 1: up here. It's wicked fun up here. Life is short.

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Speaker 1: Do I wanna sit in this uh newsroom? No like

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Speaker 1: result good or bad? This this might be the last

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Speaker 1: time they're in this spot, in this newsroom where everyone

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Speaker 1: is against them, and you know, it's just like annoying

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Speaker 1: sort of being surrounded as you guys can imagine, I

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Speaker 1: mean for big Jets or Brown's games, or do I

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Speaker 1: want to come up here with a with a charming,

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Speaker 1: energetic Patriots fan here who I could enjoy that. I

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Speaker 1: totally see why you shifted seats. Mark would have seen

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Speaker 1: first when you got up like and you're like in

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Speaker 1: your little sports coat and you like darted sheepest lee

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Speaker 1: down the aisle with your with your lapt your laptop.

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Speaker 1: I thought, where is Greg going in the middle of this?

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Speaker 1: Like critical? Well that was then it was like okay,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, I don't blame you because you

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Speaker 1: were surrounded now, but you were surrounded by people that

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Speaker 1: did not want your team to succeed. On any level,

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Speaker 1: just the whole news froom. I think like there was

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Speaker 1: like when the Patriots won, then there was an audible

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Speaker 1: like nothingness in the room, just a few groans and

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Speaker 1: no response. There was one moment where I thought it

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Speaker 1: would be nice to be down there, and that was

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Speaker 1: when Gronk made that catch down the sideline, because I

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Speaker 1: would have liked to hear Chris Wesley's guttural enjoyment because

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Speaker 1: he wasn't he He loves a good Gronk and Brady

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Speaker 1: moment that play. But I was screaming and yelling at overtime,

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Speaker 1: astonished at Tom Brady being in the zone and just

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Speaker 1: unfurling one after another, impeccable ball placement on all of

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Speaker 1: these throws. All right, great setup. You set the table

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Speaker 1: nicely there, because the way I look at it, since

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Speaker 1: I'm hosting the podcast, let's get this out of the way,

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Speaker 1: all right and talk about the Patriots and Chiefs from

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Speaker 1: Arrowhead Championships Sunday. Let's dig in. Shouldn't Grady undershutter and

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Speaker 1: give the Burke and runs it left for the wind touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Patriots himmer ball for Super Bowl fifty three. What a call?

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Speaker 1: Soucie We're going back, baby, and already nothing you get

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Speaker 1: to a plotic America's more Snight, Mayor's Back. We're called

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Speaker 1: were super Bowl in five years, Packer backs, starre war busses.

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Speaker 1: We're coming whole Boston. There's a human red bull can

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Speaker 1: Scott Sola along with Bob Sochi of w b Z

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Speaker 1: with the call. The Patriots recalling memories of their last

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl conquest, one the overtime coin toss and march

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Speaker 1: right down the field to glory, this time Brex burke

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Speaker 1: Head scoring from two yards out the final play, and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots win over the Chiefs at Arrowhead in the

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Speaker 1: a f C title game. Tom Brady a surgeon during

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Speaker 1: that final march and now begins prep for what will

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Speaker 1: be his ninth Super Bowl. That is just stupid West

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Speaker 1: Wild game, multiple lead changes, defenses that couldn't get a

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Speaker 1: legendary q B who came through yet again. Four fourth

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Speaker 1: could have gone either way. Another in a long line

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Speaker 1: of two minute drill touchdown drives by Tom Brady, a

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Speaker 1: thirty second field goal drive with two great throws by

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and then Tom tom Brady to start overtime.

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Speaker 1: Has one of the best exhibitions of ball placement I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. And this man was in the platonic ideal

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Speaker 1: of the athletic zone. He was there. He said before

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Speaker 1: the playoffs started in the in their bye week that

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Speaker 1: there's nothing in his life, in football or outside of it,

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Speaker 1: that can replace the feeling that you have during the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And he has played like it the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots have played like it. They have played

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Speaker 1: their best two games of the season in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and what stands out about those drives is they're so

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Speaker 1: shorthanded on the outside. They're trying to throw it to

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Speaker 1: door set. They're trying to count on Cordarrel Patterson to

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Speaker 1: that they're getting into these third and long situations, and

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Speaker 1: then who do you go to there? It's Julian Edelman,

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Speaker 1: his best game of the season. They needed three touchdowns

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Speaker 1: forty seven yards on those three drives. It was those

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Speaker 1: this now four to five year run where they keep

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Speaker 1: making it back like it was more than that too,

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Speaker 1: because for the second straight week, the Patriots coaching staff

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Speaker 1: Brady's throwing too. And for all, you know, the heat

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Speaker 1: that we give New England and the exhaustion around whatever

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Speaker 1: the experience is covering this team going back to the

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Speaker 1: a human being that loves football, you cannot help but

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Speaker 1: look back on what Brady does in a game like this,

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Speaker 1: where the whole narrative all week is, you know, understandably

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Speaker 1: he's an older quarterback. It's gonna be twenty degrees, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna feel like it's three degrees. You're going up against

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Speaker 1: nature can't take him out. And I think also the defense,

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and Patrick Mahomes uh looked every bit

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Speaker 1: Patriots coaching staff. These are two of the most dominant

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Speaker 1: And it then made Patrick Mahomes need to be perfect

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Speaker 1: just being salty, as Ricky and the millennials would say.

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Speaker 1: But we're well after that game. If our Brilliums millennials

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Speaker 1: say that people are being salty. That if anyone was

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Speaker 1: don't care Patriots fans, could you know, stick it up

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Speaker 1: their butts. Luck is a big part of what's been

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Speaker 1: out of field goal range, so that they were they

431
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: were out of sorts in the first half. But as

432
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: out of sorts as they were in the first half.

433
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: They scored a touchdown I think four plays into the

434
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 1: third quarter, and at that point it was a totally

435
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: different game. And they got the best game they've had

436
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: all season from Sammy Watkins, who's been you know, banged up,

437
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: and I think that had a lot to do with

438
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill being essentially at race. I mean, they scored

439
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: twenty four points in the fourth quarter that they That

440
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: is outrageous. He got the you know, Mahomes got the

441
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: ball back needing a touchdown with three thirty two. He

442
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: almost did it too fast, and then he got the

443
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: ball back again with thirty nine seconds left and had

444
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: two unbelievable plays that not that just about no quarterback

445
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: is going to make and sets him up for overtime.

446
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 1: The only thing I would have gotten on read a

447
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: little bit was like, if I'm the Patriots, I'm afraid

448
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: of them going for the end zone one more play

449
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: And that's easy to that's easy to second guess. But

450
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, you have the sup you have the

451
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl sitting there in front of you with eleven

452
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: seconds left. I don't know that defensive alignment, though, was

453
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: not designed to give up a play like that, and

454
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: I having slashbacks from Miami, where like people just killed

455
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: Belichick after the game for something going wrong, Read would

456
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: have been killed if if the young quarterback forced one

457
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: into cover brambling up to the line to try to,

458
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, get the to down the ball and end

459
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: the clock, and the thing runs to zero, Read would

460
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: be getting destroyed. What one of the images I will

461
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: remember from today more than any other is Erica tam

462
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: Posse dancing with her tam Posse jersey in back of

463
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: the glass while we were about to do the sky hit,

464
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: but Dan and Mark refusing to look up at her.

465
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: I did not see this, gave you like a I'm

466
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: happy for you. I don't know. Can we the house

467
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: in black Jack wins? Congratulations? Thank you, I'll take that. Mark,

468
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: Why didn't you come with me? Man really thought about it,

469
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: but I kind of just said, you know what, I'm

470
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: gonna roll with the home team and thought that I

471
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: was sitting pretty after the road team won the first

472
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: game today. Spoiler alert, last thoughts, Yeah, can we stand

473
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: in all of Tom Brady and put his greatness into

474
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Speaker 1: perspective for a minute here, Mike Giardi, are our Patriots

475
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: reporter on NFL Network said that he entered the facility

476
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: early in the week and said announced to everyone, I'm

477
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: the baddest mother trucker on the planet when he walked

478
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: into the door. And then Julian Edelman says he proceeded

479
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: the practice all week better than he has at any

480
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: time all season. He now, this is where he stands

481
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: against his competition, and as a quarterback legend. Twenty eight

482
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: more touchdowns, seventy eight more yards yards, thirteen more victories,

483
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: and four more Super Bowl appearances than any other quarterback

484
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: in postseason history is more yeah, wow, more appearances than Montana.

485
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: They're the same that Montana even made it. And since

486
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: his thirty fifth birthday, he's his numbers stack up against

487
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: anyone's for their career just about. I mean, I think

488
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: you have to consider him like a Michael Jordan's level

489
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: player in his spot. I agree with that. And speaking

490
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: of putting greatness in perspective, every legendary chapter that gets

491
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: added to this books every year only enhances the greatness

492
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: of what Eli Manning and Tom coflin off and two

493
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: separate Super bowls. I mean, it just enhances Eli's Hall

494
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: of fame candidacy, It just it makes Coughlin look like

495
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: even more of a genius. But does yeah to me now,

496
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: like and I'll say this, if the Patriots lose on

497
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: Suer Bowl Sunday too, that enhanced like the losses enhanced

498
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: Brady's reputation too, because I was thinking about that and

499
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: you're like, you don't want to see your team losing

500
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and they're kind of boring to cover

501
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: and and all that stuff. But to have this performance,

502
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: like they could go lose forty one to nothing in

503
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and to have this sort of performance,

504
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: which to me is up there with anything that Brady

505
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: has done. To do it another, to do something you

506
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: haven't done before, win on the road like this, it's

507
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: for Gronk to have that moment. And like when everyone

508
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: was making retirement jokes about it, no matter what happens

509
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: in the next one, to back the truck up, just

510
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: retirement jokes about Gronky nothing. If they lose forty one

511
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: nothing in the super Bowl, no one is going to

512
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 1: care about this game or the least, but I will, like,

513
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: and I we're talking about the larger reflection of Tom Brady.

514
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: If they walk in and get blank forty one nothing.

515
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: No one's gonna remember that they beat the Charger. It's

516
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: it's an it's an extreme example, but I did is extreme.

517
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: I do think that that is the sign of greatness

518
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: showing up that many different times and you have to

519
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: show up and you lose something like if you that

520
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose some super you show up nine times.

521
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Speaking of black jack, this is what we cannot We're

522
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna be doing this for two when the Patriots, When

523
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: the Patriots make the super Bowl, it is very for

524
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: Patriot haters like Mark myself, when they make this, when

525
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: they make the super Bowl, it's like doubling down in blackjack,

526
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: because there's nothing better than a Patriots lost in the

527
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But there's nothing worse than the Patriots one thing,

528
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: because there were multiple of that we've been to where

529
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: I was like rooting for Tom Brady and you've been

530
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: conflicted over the years. I can tell you really respect

531
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady, but you seem to just be exhausted

532
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: by this. I it's just like I said on on

533
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: Sky Sports, it's not the game itself because they played

534
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: these amazing super bowls. It is and it is. It

535
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: is fun to go to the super Bowl. No matter what,

536
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a great time. But I just sometimes

537
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: like news stories and fresh stories. That's all. It's not

538
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: even really a complaint. It's just an observation of like

539
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: the run up to the Super Bowl is always slightly

540
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: absurd for whoever's involved, and it's gonna be you know,

541
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: this is even like going to take all the Sean

542
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: McVeigh think pieces that are coming at us, and it's

543
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna dampen all those and put them in

544
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: the background because it's gonna be another Brady thing. No,

545
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: you got it all wrong. It's gonna be the young

546
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: genius against the old will be. It will be, but

547
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Sean mcveigh's stage alone on any levels.

548
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: Because of this, it's going to be an annoying like

549
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: the narrative writers are gonna have either way, because either

550
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: the Patriots kind of dot the dynasty by you know,

551
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: coming back around Brady seventeen years later against the Rams,

552
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: or the Rams like end the dynasty by kind of

553
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: coming back around the Patriots are back the next year. Stupid,

554
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: there's the stupid. Don't put any dot or explanation point

555
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: on the Patriots. Is it just gonna go on forever? Right?

556
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: This is no dot beatific Eric there, I feel like,

557
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, weeks of this too, Mark,

558
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: you want new stories. You've never been to a Super

559
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Bowl that the Patriots have won? With me? Why can't

560
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: you just be happy? Why can't you see how happy?

561
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: You're the person that I'm would be agitated at. But

562
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's We've done this with Greg five or

563
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: six times. About Greg. I'm asking you for good luck,

564
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: forget about him. He's gonna be in my ear for

565
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: like in the next forty hours. We got to move on.

566
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: But I'll remember this when Baker Mayfield's at his ninth

567
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I'll start being all cranky in your year

568
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: when you're well that four years old. Yeah, we will

569
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: be in our sixties at that point. Um, all right,

570
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: let's move on to the other title game today, played

571
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: earlier at the Supernome. He seven yard try to win

572
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: the NFC championship game. Behold, he's down, The kick clears

573
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: the line and Greg Zerline s super Bowl play for

574
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: the Lombardy kspns j B long with the call, Greg

575
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: the leg zer line tilled a fifty seven yard field

576
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: goal with room to spare, the decider in the Rams

577
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: three overtime win over the Saints in the NFC Title Game.

578
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: It was the first and only lead for the Rams

579
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You battled back from a third teen nothing

580
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: first half deficit to secure their first Super Bowl birth

581
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: since the two thousand one season. A lot to get

582
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: into here, including a no call that will haunt the

583
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Saints forever, but let's start here. The Rams found a

584
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: way to win a game in which Todd Gurley had

585
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: just five touches markets a testament to a team that

586
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: we heard all season lives and dies by Todd Gurley.

587
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Well they lived without him. There's a lot to as

588
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: you said, touch on in this and we can. Yes,

589
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: That's why I said that I'll open with just this.

590
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: This reminded me of what the Saints did a week ago,

591
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: where the Saints got into a fourteen nothing hole against

592
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles and showed I thought, great resilience at home

593
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: to find their sea legs on offense and do just

594
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: enough to win that game. This Rams team, we we

595
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: asked all week what would it be like to play

596
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: in the Superdome? Well, they came in earlier in the

597
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: year and put up a bunch of points. So maybe

598
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: all this stuff about crowd noises totally overblown, but this

599
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: was one of the more lathered up, uh fiery crowds

600
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: that I can remember ever really watching in the playoffs,

601
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: and it visibly threw the Rams off their step. Early on.

602
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: There was like they couldn't legitimately there was the communication

603
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: issues in Golf's helmet that they had to deal with,

604
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: but they showed them over and over, and I thought, Trakman,

605
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, because he's been there, he could see what

606
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: was happening. They couldn't even get the play out in

607
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: the huddle, and it put Golf into a situation where

608
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Sean McVeigh, you know, throwing ce poems

609
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: into his ear and let's put up fifty points. It

610
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: was like having to find your way out of that

611
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: morass without your best player operating, and look almost mysteriously

612
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: on the sideline because you find out that Sean McVeigh

613
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: simply trusted C. J. Anderson more down the stretch in

614
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: that game. And I'll let you guys unpack some of

615
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: the other stuff, but I thought that the Rams, who

616
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, at times have been on my radar. This

617
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: is the kind of game where you cannot help but

618
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: believe in them entirely with the way they handled one

619
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: of the toughest environments to play in, one of one

620
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: of the most surprising. We'll get to all the controversy stuff,

621
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: but the surprising, most surprising thing in this game to

622
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: me is that both defenses really won. I mean, neither

623
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: team could run the ball at all. Neither quarterback I

624
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: would say played a great game or even like a

625
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: B plus game for how talented they are. The two

626
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: defenses one, but the Rams defense won more. I mean

627
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: the Fowler Sue Donald Brockers made a few more plays

628
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: to get to the point where it's thirteen nothing. They

629
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: they stopped them early after the Rams turnover, which put

630
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: the Saints on a short field that was huge. And

631
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: then in the final four drives the Saints had three points.

632
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean the final seven drives they had ten points.

633
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: They really weren't the Saints offense, which I was more

634
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: surprised by that than anything, because I just thought the

635
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: Rams would have to have a great offensive day to win,

636
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: and they didn't. They wanted anyways, with one of the

637
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: great kick in NFL history. That's been overlooked a little

638
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 1: bit too much in the post game because of all

639
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: the controversial calls. Let's talk about the elephant in the

640
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: room here, which is the non call. That's how Unfortunately

641
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: it will not be remembered for Greg the Legs bomb,

642
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: which it should be because that was an incredible kick,

643
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: one of the best we've ever seen in the playoffs,

644
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: but will be remembered for the no call on Rams

645
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: defensive back Nickel Robie Coleman, who late in the fourth

646
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: quarter with the Saints UH in good position to run

647
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: the clock all the way down UH near the Rams

648
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: goal line and kick the potential game winning field goal.

649
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: Robie Coleman sprints towards the sideline to cover Tommy Lee

650
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Lewis on a wheel route, collides with him UH seconds

651
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: before the ball gets very clear penalty. UH. Look too,

652
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: fans in the stadium, people watching at home, jeans sterritor

653
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: in the booth, and even the NFL because after the game,

654
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Sean Payton UH said this just getting up the phone

655
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: with the league office. They blew the call. I don't

656
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: know if there was ever a more obvious past interference

657
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: call and the result of this was clock stops. It

658
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: leaves enough they still kicked the field goal to go ahead,

659
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: but it leaves enough time for the Saints to go

660
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: down and tie the game. So this is the the

661
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: play that will this game will be remembered by Sean

662
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: Payton devastated after the game because he knows that the

663
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: flag comes out there. The Saints are probably preparing for

664
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl right now. Here's what he had to say.

665
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: If we were playing pick up football in the backyard,

666
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: the team that commuted the file, I mean it was

667
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: it was his obvious a call, um, And how we

668
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: can two guys can look at that and come up

669
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: and arrive with their decision. And it happened, though, so

670
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: you can't dwell on it. Um, yere we you know,

671
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: we probably never get over it. You know. The truth

672
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: is you're you always some of these losses like this,

673
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: but one one like that, Um, that's it's too bad.

674
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: It was a third down from the twelve yard line

675
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: with one forty eight play scored, tied at twenty uh

676
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: and the incompletion and lack of a first down allowed

677
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: the Rims a chance. Robie Coleman West after the game said, yes,

678
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: I got there. Too early. I was beat and I

679
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: was trying to save the touchdown. You don't see that

680
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: admission too often. Should have been called pass interference, could

681
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: have been called defenseless receiver, could have been called helmet

682
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: The helmet could have been called unnecessary roughness. Take your pick.

683
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: The magnitude of the missed call is such that I

684
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: guarantee you there will be discussions about changing the rules

685
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: on what can be challenged and what can't be This

686
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: is the history of the NFL and rule changes going

687
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: back to even like the seventies and Mike Renfroze catching

688
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: the oiler Steelers Championship game that eventually led to instant

689
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: replay review. Um, these things happen, and it's just it's

690
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: a horrible, horrible injustice, And it's really gonna take some

691
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: of the attention away of Drew Brees coming up short

692
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: with that pass and John Payton getting too cute with

693
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: his play calling at the end of the game. Those

694
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: two guys should be wearing goat horns and instead the

695
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: referees will be Yeah, that's It brings up something that

696
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I really believe in Belichick. Maybe it's because Belichick says

697
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: it so much that it never comes down like it

698
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: does come down to one play. But I refuse to

699
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: believe that everything that happened before, and that especially everything

700
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: that happened after it is invalidated by that one call,

701
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: which was in you like all of these things can

702
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: be true. It was absolutely a miscalled. Belichick, for what

703
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: it's worth, has proposed officially at annual meetings that every

704
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: place should be reviewable, and I think he probably will again,

705
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: And that's really want that I don't necessary I don't

706
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: necessarily want that. But what I mean is, though to

707
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: your point, the Saints have a first down there where

708
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: Sean Payton calls a pass instead of running it twice

709
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: to kind of burn the Rams time outs and then

710
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: maybe throwing it on third down, and Drew Brees short

711
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: arms a throw that he hits one Saints fan like

712
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: hit me up with he that he hit a two

713
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: nine fifty times. That play came directly after Drew Brees

714
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: short armed a deep throw to Ted Ginn that Ted

715
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: Ginn ended up making a play on because LaMarcus Joiner

716
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: didn't go after the ball secondly short armed it. I

717
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: just don't think he has the arm for it, okay,

718
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: which because I think his armstrack limitations were exposed down

719
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: the stretch of this season, so Alvin Kamara has a

720
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: no gain the next play. So all of these these

721
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: things happen, and in overtime, the Saints get the ball first.

722
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we could be talking about, oh, they're lucky

723
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: because they won the coin toss there, but no, Dante

724
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Fowler gets pressure on Breeze, causes an interception, and the

725
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Rams go win the game with one of the great kicks.

726
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: So it's like all of that happening doesn't invalidate it,

727
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: but it's it's might be the worst call. It's certainly

728
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: the most memorable miss call since the tuck rule, which

729
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a miss call. But I think, just

730
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: like the most memorable play, I think that Cowboys will

731
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that's quite there, but yes, yeah, I

732
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: agree with you, Greg. I will say I think that

733
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: the experience of the average sports fan um and by average,

734
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't mean unremarkable people, just you're you're you're running

735
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: the mill people watching, okay, watching games like out at bar,

736
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: you're out trying to pay. You're out there with a

737
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: bunch of Saints fans, and this call happens the response

738
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: in a big, crowded, packed sports bar or in that

739
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: stadium is not And I hear where you're coming from.

740
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: But you know what, here's twenty five other things that

741
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: could have gone differently. It's like a totally blown call

742
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: at when the team on the threshold of making what

743
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: is clearly most likely going to be the last real

744
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run that you're gonna get from Breeze and

745
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. So I totally get the outrage. Fans have

746
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: a right to be outraged and not be totally centered.

747
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: We watch these games in an office sober for the

748
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: most part, you know, breaking down all the ifs, hants

749
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: and butts in the room. I'm just saying, like, like,

750
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: at least sober minded and that we're not going crazy.

751
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: So we lose our cool too. But it's like this,

752
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: the average sportsman cannot be asked to pick apart for

753
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: thousands other scenarios to nullify the fact that that was

754
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: a terrible call. It was ross call. I think one

755
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: of the most distasteful aspects of our job is every

756
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: Monday morning having to cover ad nauseum controversial calls and

757
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: fans are always two worked up about it. In this case,

758
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: it's an exception. I think they have every right to

759
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: be upset and think that their team got robbed, and

760
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: they should have one. Let's talk about other aspects of

761
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: the game. Obviously, that is such a huge part of

762
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: this game, but there are other parts to talk about,

763
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: like the fact that the Saints came very close to

764
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: running the Rams out of the building. Uh. And to

765
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: Los Angeles credit and the riots outside l A is

766
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: on fire right now, not literally, but I mean the

767
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: fans are just going nuts here, just kidding. It's very

768
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: quiet outside, but how do you know I went for

769
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: a walk to seven eleven before very quiet? Uh, this

770
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: is every Culver City is a pretty quiet place, unless

771
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: like there are people lined up outside the gun store

772
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: that I like. I said, it's very quiet outside. Thirteen

773
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: nothing okay, Uh, fourteen three to play in the second quarter,

774
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: the Rams facing a fourth and five at their own

775
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: thirty okay. And I got issues with Sean mcveigh's decision

776
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal in the fourth quarter. Uh

777
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: when he should have went for it. Uh. He took

778
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: the tie instead of going for the jugular and it

779
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: would have cost him and but he got bailed out

780
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: by that bogus call. That's that's him not hanging the onions,

781
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: which really surprised me. But he absolutely hung onions in

782
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: this spot. Johnny Hecker, who never lets him down. Uh

783
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: passes to shields a big game that got them, lead

784
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: to them getting on the board, and once they got

785
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: the game back under control um and got the game

786
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: to thirteen ten late in the second quarter, they have

787
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: a touchdown drive everything. They were fine from that point on,

788
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: but this game was this close. And I even I

789
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: tweeted him that this game was teetering on the brink

790
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: of another disappointing playoff game, and it just changed after

791
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: that fake punt call. I just I think that you're

792
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: exactly right, Dan, I. And the one thing about that

793
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: the rams On offense showing resilience. But I thought by

794
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: the time they got to overtime that Goff was more

795
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: comfortable than he had been had been growing to that,

796
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: and he made a couple of big money throws in

797
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: this game. The dart the thirty six yard over the

798
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: shoulder one to Brandon Cooks was beautiful. He got Gerald

799
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: Everett going with a like a catch and rumble thirty

800
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: nine yard or he hit Josh Reynolds for a thirty

801
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: three yarder. I mean, they made some big games in

802
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: the big plays in the passing game when they needed

803
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: it most. At the two throws that Goff made against

804
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: pressure in overtime were where plays like I don't expect

805
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: from him because those are plays that really he beat

806
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: what was the right play call two times. I mean

807
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: those were the two plays I remember most from the

808
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Rams offense in this game because he has a free

809
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: rusher coming at him and he does a pretty athletic

810
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: move with to flip his hips to get out of

811
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: the way and get the ball going. I don't think

812
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: he gets I think he is a great quarterback. I'm

813
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: not saying he's one of the best in the league,

814
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: but I think he is four years old too. Especially

815
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: those he is such great form and great technique, and

816
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: he just looks like he has He's so well put

817
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: together as a quarterback. If you give him time. Every

818
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: time he got a clear path, he was putting it

819
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: right on the money. It was seeing him play and

820
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: seeing Brady play. It was a lot of fun and

821
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: it helps I think it helps his story. When Todd

822
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Gurley had the game he had where it was on

823
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: golf more than you would have wanted it to be

824
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: to make those throws down the stretch. What did Gurley said?

825
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: I had a sorry games something like that drops um.

826
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: He got away with a hold on Eli Apple on

827
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: a play that should have been a sack. It was

828
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: great to find out what's going on with Todd Gurley.

829
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: And he's gonna have two weeks if you're telling me

830
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: it was just a coach's decision to take out a

831
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: guy that's the best player on the team. I would

832
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: be surprised that there wasn't something physical going on that

833
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: he he was on the bike on the sideline, but

834
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: he was not playing well and and only touched the

835
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: ball five times. That that maybe that he's not hud.

836
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: He ended up playing only four snaps, less than than Anderson.

837
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: He was the lowest graded player on the Rams offense

838
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: on the entire team by a decent amount of party

839
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: profile focus. He he struggled in that game, and they

840
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: were clearly running better up the middle, which is more

841
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: of what Anderson does versus their zone scheme where they're

842
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: usually an outside running team. And they didn't really try

843
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: it that hard because the Saints defense, which you talked

844
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: up West and I think played really well overall. I

845
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: mean they would not. They both teams could not run

846
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: the ball at all, Like they both had to sort

847
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: of give up on the run. When the Saints couldn't

848
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: do anything except have Alvin Kamara beat whoever was assigned

849
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: to him. That was their offense. A great team when

850
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: for the Rams, but spinning back to Greg the legs

851
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: erline and you know, I'm on the kicking corner. Let's

852
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: let's call attention to that play because that drive in

853
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: overtime for the Rams, they got they got the interception

854
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: from Breeze when they got pressure on Breeze led to

855
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: the turnover. They get great field position, they don't move

856
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: the ball much. I think they got maybe fifteen yards,

857
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: they got a first down and maybe a little bit

858
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Speaker 1: more in that range, and that is exactly fifty they were.

859
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: It was a no brainer to attempt the field goal

860
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: in the Dome, but it also was highly risky because

861
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: if Greg the leg doesn't get it done there, the

862
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Saints are set up at midfield at all, only nating

863
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: field goal, so the season is really on the line.

864
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: And two people to credit Johnny Hecker, it was a

865
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: low snap that he handled, and then Greg's urline. This

866
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: does not the fact that Jared Goff and I know

867
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: he's the quarterback, and I just said he's a great quarterback.

868
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: All that the fact that he's the one that they're

869
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: talking to right after the game, and then at the

870
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: podium with Terry Bradshaw in the locker room after the game,

871
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: they have all these gabronies up on the stage. Greg's Airline.

872
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: Greg's air Line drilled a fifties seven yard field goal

873
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: to put his team into the super Bowl that had

874
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: fifteen yards to spare. Nobody was even really talking about it,

875
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: but interview. A guy like Cody Parkey misses the field

876
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: goal and he's the biggest villain in the world and

877
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: he goes on the Today Show and he gets fired

878
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: and all that. Why don't the kickers get more love

879
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: when they do? This is the equivalent of making an

880
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: incredible like a helmet catch or something drolling a field

881
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: goal like that at those stakes. I don't understand why

882
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: Greg the leg isn't a legend. Right now, you're gonna

883
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: retire his number. The rams are I should go ahead.

884
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to shake you to your very core here.

885
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: Davice but Justin Tucker wasn't the best kicker in the

886
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: NFL last season that it was Greg's rline last year.

887
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: You're saying the two thousand seventeen season, Greg's airline, he

888
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: didn't get injured at the end of the year, would

889
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: have broken the points record because he was phenomenal. I mean,

890
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: that's one of the great kicks. And we needed the

891
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: NBC graphic which says good from whatever, because that would

892
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: it felt like it felt like it had been good

893
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: from seventy two and Saints fans who probably aren't really

894
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, I hate to break it. I mean,

895
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Garrett Hartley no longer has the greatest kick in Superdome history.

896
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: That's that's the greatest kick in w Really, Greg, that

897
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: was savage? Was that good? Art? I didn't know you're

898
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: gonna turn hell on on the I mean, I'd just

899
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: say it was a great kick. What will your buddy

900
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: Adam think? Now he's definitely Greg's. He'll turn on the

901
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: Saints and like them since they won the superth You can,

902
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: like a lot of things, something happens, Okay, yeah, what

903
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: did happen there? This is like this the legend of

904
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: me and spice Rack in Vegas. You guys always think

905
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: there's something more to the story. Well that's with me

906
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: and with you and the Saints. Well you just basically

907
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: acknowledged that there is more to that. Maybe maybe there is,

908
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: maybe there isn't good work, don't We work with enough

909
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: television producers at this point to where I like your

910
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: kicking argument that if if there is someone's in their ear,

911
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, listen, we've got Gregg the leg but

912
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: we also have Jared Goff right here. Which one do

913
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: you want? They'll take off? Well? Can it be a

914
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: simple Is that right? No? But that's what the that's

915
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: that's what TV produces can be as simple as like

916
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: the Rams are new, and just like you're sick of

917
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: the Pages, I'm not sick of Drew Brees. Maybe I'm

918
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: a little sick of Drew Brees. I'm not sick of

919
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the Saints. Like the Rams are new,

920
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: like McVeigh, like it's just on the podium next to

921
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw interview Craig. The legs are line a lot

922
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: of television. It's not a bad idea man in a

923
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: fifty seven yard field goal to send his team into

924
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, put up on television, and Dan's going

925
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: for that pull quote. I'm way too dangerous. I think

926
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: you're like, Dan's going for the Emmy. That's his Oscar

927
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: clip right there. Um pull quote. It's gonna be out

928
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: there in forty minutes. Anything else boys from this game, Yeah,

929
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say something more about the Rams defense.

930
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: They have completely shut down the ground attacks of the

931
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Saints the past two weeks. This defense was

932
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: mediocre all year and since it keep Tilap came back,

933
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: I really think they've They've up their level of play.

934
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: You see and Dompkins sue playing like an all Pro again,

935
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 1: and Dante Fowler for the last month and a half

936
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: has been really disruptive behind Thomas had thirty six yards

937
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: in this game. My my one last thing would just

938
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: be at McVeigh for all the hype that he's gotten

939
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: delivered in such a big moment, not not just the

940
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: field goal, but field goal change, which is is something

941
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: like the coaches giving his team to change the game.

942
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's a coaching and bones obviously Jim Fassel,

943
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: their special teams coordinator, but also the play call on

944
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: that beautiful throw that golf made where he's creating a

945
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: mismatch between Josh Reynolds and to Mario Davis, that's a

946
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: coaching play, Like, that's a coaching win. And the other

947
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: one that stands out is in in the fourth quarter,

948
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: he decides to burn a time out pretty early in

949
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: the game to take a time out on third and

950
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: four and what is He set up a thirty nine

951
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: yard play to Gerald Everett that absolutely beat him. I mean,

952
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: there were a lot of moments where McVeigh just kind

953
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: of one and delivered on all the hype. I wanna

954
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: also shout out to Lakisha. Oh yeah, you know, I

955
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: feel I really do. I'm bummed for Saints fans because

956
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: they got robbed. But Lakisha like got up early this morning.

957
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: She was so excited. She left really to go to

958
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: a bar and get the table because she said, this

959
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: is the biggest game of my life. She hadn't been

960
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: a big, die hard football fan for the greatest show

961
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: on turf years like she was. She was on cloud

962
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: nine entering this game so nervous and excited. And to

963
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: see her reaction from the Rams one. I'm sure you

964
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: retweeted West, but if you if you haven't seen it.

965
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: I also retweeted Lakisha's reaction immediately after the game that

966
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: that was really nice to see because she's such a

967
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: rare fan in the sense that she lived in St. Louis,

968
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: moves to l A and the team follows her. The

969
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: people left behind in St. Louis probably a little more

970
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: conflicted seeing Stan Cronky on that podium instead of Gregg's airline.

971
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: By the way him being celebrated, I can understand the

972
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: frustration there, But Lakisha, Uh, this is a special team

973
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 1: for especially so West's credit. We were up here doing

974
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: the sky hit in the middle of the fourth quarter

975
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: and I started to pick up for the first time

976
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: that west was rooting for the Rams, even though he

977
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: was happy for the Rams, rooting for the Rams, even

978
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: though he locked up the Saints and the lock competition,

979
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: the love of his life mattered more to him than that. Well,

980
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: he's also got to deal with her all week long.

981
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: If they lose, forget the love you could here's just

982
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: to play devil's advocate. If Westwood had didn't just a

983
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: loyal uh to his woman and just got behind the team,

984
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: he'd be tied with Mark going into the Super Bowl.

985
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: So that's that's a fair criticism, and I think you're

986
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: setting the bar very low for acceptable like fiance behavior.

987
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: Of course I'm gonna I mean, she's gonna get way

988
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: more value out of going to the Super Bowl in

989
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: her team winning, then I'm gonna get for some block

990
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1038
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1039
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1040
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,360
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1041
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1042
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1046
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,880
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1048
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1049
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1050
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1051
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Speaker 1: And I think I'll think it's hot. We'll see I

1052
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,600
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1053
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1054
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1059
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Speaker 1: however you want. Why you why are you making that face? Erica?

1060
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Speaker 1: I'm just laughing at you. You're so funny. You're so

1061
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1065
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Speaker 1: Wednesday show this week, so Thursday podcast. Then we're on

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Speaker 1: a plane, so no Sunday podcast. But then a ton

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Speaker 1: of content for you. UH. Next week we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: doing three UH shows NFL dot com video shows from

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Speaker 1: Radio Row in addition to UH the three podcasts. That

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Speaker 1: includes Yes, the live show from City Winery, and of

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Speaker 1: course our sixth annual post Super Bowl wrap up show

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Speaker 1: from Megatron's. But I'd argue too many, too much contact

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Speaker 1: many shows. That's a nick name for the Falcon Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the roof, the facility, the roof opens up. Not Calvin.

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Speaker 1: That's like the actual initial, the actual Megatron. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: get it, fake robot that's in a movie. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not not the football player. I was definitely thinking Calvin

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Speaker 1: Johnson and I just didn't get it. All right, this

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Speaker 1: is a good time to get out. This is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hands a signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the

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Speaker 1: Old Boss, Rickey, Hollywood, Behind the Glass, No tears. Two

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Speaker 1: weeks from today, Ricky one way or the other, No tears.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's a joy campos till t se