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Speaker 1: How to everybody. Welcome to the podcast. What is your

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Speaker 1: It seems like everybody's got one, and it's weird. It's

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Speaker 1: almost like we're all wired to have our own tendency

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Speaker 1: to be scared of something. Like some people will say snakes,

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Speaker 1: and like if we're talking Indiana Jones, some people say snakes,

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Speaker 1: some people say rats. Some people call spiders their biggest fear.

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Speaker 1: Some people say it's heights. Some people say it's speed,

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Speaker 1: going too fast? Is that's their biggest fear? Like they can't.

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Speaker 1: Some people say the airplanes. Airplanes are their biggest fear.

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Speaker 1: I know mine, and I want to talk about it

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. I want to bring in our warehouse

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Speaker 1: manager at EE Apparel and several time podcasts guest ex

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Speaker 1: drummer of mine, Caleb Kelly. He is always has such

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Speaker 1: a great perspective, so I want to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: I also want to dive into your questions, which you

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Speaker 1: could ask me at Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone had a great holiday season. This is

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Speaker 1: the last podcast of twenty twenty, and there's like a

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Speaker 1: sigh of relief when I even say that, because twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty has been such a crazy year for all of us.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about all of us as in

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Speaker 1: ue apparel in my band. I'm talking about all of

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Speaker 1: you too. This podcast is listened to by so many

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Speaker 1: different countries and different cultures around the world. I get

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Speaker 1: your emails, and it's wild that this year has affected

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Speaker 1: all of us. Usually you would say something like this

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Speaker 1: has affected this city, or this county, or this state,

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Speaker 1: or sometimes this country. But this is rare that we

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Speaker 1: not like a hurricane that affected a region. This has

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Speaker 1: affected the world. And there's a sigh of relief thinking

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Speaker 1: that we're going into a new year, a new calendar year,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's so much on our shoulders to

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Speaker 1: take on. What kind of perspective will we have going

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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one? What will we take away from

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty? What will we never take for granted again

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Speaker 1: that we learned by having less of it or none

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Speaker 1: of it in twenty twenty, like touring. What will we

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Speaker 1: look forward to and say, you know what I learned

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Speaker 1: that this is where I put my foot down this

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Speaker 1: is where I say, no, I will not go any further.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is a time where we say I've learned

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Speaker 1: to bend. I've learned to I have an opinion on something,

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Speaker 1: and now I've learned to put my opinion aside, put

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Speaker 1: my ideology aside, and move in a different direction. So

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Speaker 1: you got two different two completely different perspectives. People that

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Speaker 1: say I've learned how to bend. Where do you fall

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Speaker 1: on this whole thing? I think no matter where you fall,

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Speaker 1: I think we could all agree it's nice to at

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Speaker 1: least turn the calendar year into twenty twenty one, get

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Speaker 1: away from that twenty twenty stigma. Although we all know

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Speaker 1: that just because the calendar changes doesn't mean the world's

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Speaker 1: going to change or the pandemic is going to change it.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice clean fresh start in our minds, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes our minds is what leads to the full change

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Speaker 1: or the full destination that we're heading for. All things

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Speaker 1: to consider, and one thing to take in right now

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Speaker 1: for me is that a lot of things happened for

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Speaker 1: earl Devils truck restoration that happened only because of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: only because of me. Butch and Bull were off from

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Speaker 1: touring and mom. Mom had this old barn with my

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Speaker 1: the Yegee Farm to rebuild it. That a will happened

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Speaker 1: here it is. It's time to make the podcast an

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Speaker 1: There's bad things, of course, but there are thinks as

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Speaker 1: That's all stuff to think about. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: Ye ye did change in month time line by fool

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Speaker 1: up and down during back crazy cool. Yeah thatation. So

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Speaker 1: I guess they were trying to think of things to

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Speaker 1: roof and they're like, Hey, what's your greatest fear? And

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Speaker 1: the reality is I said deep water, Like that's that's

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Speaker 1: my That is it? Like I don't feel great about

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Speaker 1: being really really high, you know, like if I want to,

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Speaker 1: I could be sitting on the edge and dangling my

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Speaker 1: and the way that I always and the way that

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Speaker 1: I told them that day was, imagine you're you're in

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Speaker 1: Swim under the warship. The propellers are off, they're they're there,

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Speaker 1: and be like, Nope, it could be a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm not going in that water.

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Speaker 1: Not my jam, deep dark water, No thanks. And then

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Speaker 1: that's right, seal Rock. Do you know seal Rock? If

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Speaker 1: that was awesome. So we're like, cool, we've got the

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Speaker 1: How hard can it be? You stand on this board

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Speaker 1: if you've never done this before, it's a massive board.

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Speaker 1: Does it take any kind of experience? No, you just

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Speaker 1: to be about what's the book going to be about? That?

427
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: That's really like, that's what this lady specializes in, is

428
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: getting someone's brain and all the scattered pieces and going okay,

429
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: let's focus on that subject, like is it going to

430
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: be about music or is it going to be about

431
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: touring band? Is it going to be about grief and loss?

432
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Is it going to be about I don't know. Second

433
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: record producer does with an artist in the studio. Yeah,

434
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: almost exactly that, taking all those thoughts and just say okay,

435
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: here's what we're going to focus on. So to answer

436
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: your question, Patrick, yes, I'm going to get on that.

437
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking it, And I don't know when

438
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: I'll be able to announce anything else about it. Besides,

439
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: that's all I know is wait on a phone call.

440
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to another out of light category here. This

441
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: question crumbs from Scott. It says sorry, these are uncensored.

442
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes it says I'm too poor to afford a cameo.

443
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: I come from a poor farming family, so I'm not

444
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: getting anything for my birthday. But could you possibly think

445
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: about wishing me happy sixteenth birthday? I understand if you can't, Buddy,

446
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: happy sixteenth birthday. Consider this absolutely free shout out. This

447
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: podcast is free, so I appreciate you reaching out. Sixteen

448
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: is a big one. And yeah, we're a little bit

449
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: late because this question came in September, but Scott, I

450
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: hope you're still listening. Me and Caleb both want to

451
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: say happy birthday, buddy. Unless it was a misspelling and

452
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: you want cauldn't afford a camaro? Yeah, maybe cameo. Cameo

453
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: is a is a website that I could do like

454
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: a birthday shout out. That's what he's talking about. You

455
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: could buy a video, a personalized video from me that

456
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: then you could give to a friend or you get

457
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: it for yourself. So it's either that or camaro. I

458
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: can't ord a camaro either. Yeah, I thought you were

459
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna buy him a Camaro for a s let's see. Oh,

460
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: here we go. I got excited because his name's Denver,

461
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: but I thought it might relate to you, k because

462
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: you're from Colorado. But this question comes from Denver Massy.

463
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, I'm Denver Massey. I'm from horn Lake, Mississippi.

464
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to Mississippi. I messaged you on cameo. It's

465
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: either that or camaro. That says, how long did it

466
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: take for you to quit any other jobs you were

467
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: doing just to gig full time? When did you know

468
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: it was time for that leap? And when are you

469
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna let me open a show for you? I hope

470
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: all is well with you and your family. Man, So

471
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: it sounds like Denver is a musician. Shout out to you, buddy,

472
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: and you Caleb. This is perfect right up your alley

473
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: as a fellow musician here, what what would you say

474
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: to Denver? His question is, when you're working a job

475
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: to pay the bills, when do you know what you

476
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: could take that leap into full time gigging. That's tough one.

477
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's tough because when I started touring with you,

478
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: I was still working a job as well, but this

479
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: was back in the day. But I would work Monday,

480
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday and leave like Wednesday night with you guys,

481
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: get home Sunday morning, go back to work Monday, Tuesday,

482
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: and Wednesday. Yeah. So I think the way to answer

483
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: that question, Denver, it's pretty civil. Sounds complicated, but it's

484
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: pretty simple. When you're paid gigs start interfering with your

485
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: work gigs your day job, and your boss can no

486
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: longer be flexible because you're missing so much, that's when

487
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: you know it's time to make the leap. And you

488
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: don't do it anytime before then, you don't, I think

489
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: it's I would be ill advised for me to tell

490
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: you to quit your day job and jump into a

491
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: music gig that doesn't exist yet for the sake of

492
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: having more time to write and craft. Right, So, you

493
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: might be thinking I don't have any time because I

494
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: work so much on having time to write music or

495
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: to work on my band. But you do. I mean

496
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: you just you cut out some Instagram time, cut out

497
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: some Facebook time, cut out some Netflix time. You could

498
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: always find ways in your day to carve out Okay,

499
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: I got home from work. I just worked eight hours

500
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: at work. I just want to rest. Okay, you got

501
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: to make that sacrifice that and add a little discipline

502
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: to your day and said, now I musta been an

503
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: hour working on guitar or writing a song or practicing

504
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: with my band in the garage tonight from nine pm

505
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: to eleven pm. I would not advise leaving work until

506
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: you've got the bills paid with your paid gig, and

507
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: even then when you absolutely have to call the boss

508
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: one more time to get off to go travel and

509
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: he says, hey, man, I'm gonna have to let you

510
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: go if you keep doing these gigs, then you go. Okay,

511
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: now decision will be made. Right. That was cool. That

512
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: was cool when it happened because initially, like I said,

513
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: I was having to work. I only had Sunday afternoons

514
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: off in between us touring and then me doing electrical work,

515
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: and then eventually, eventually all I was doing was playing drums,

516
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: which was the coolest thing in the world. But yeah,

517
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: did it until I could just get playing music? Yeah?

518
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Would you say say yes to everything? It takes it now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

519
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing wrong with working that working that

520
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: job and working on your your gig. Every musician in

521
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: the world pretty much has done that. And if it

522
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: means that much to you, you'll stay up late. Yeah,

523
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: you're right right, You'll stay up late. Yeah, you'll You'll

524
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: carve out that Instagram time. It's crazy, and I've talked

525
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: about this before on this podcast, but it's crazy what

526
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: you could find out about yourself if you time block

527
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: right down your day, like, say, okay, for these next

528
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: three days, I'm going to log everything I do. Okay, eight,

529
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: I got up at seven, and from seven to eight,

530
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm mid coffee, brushed my teeth, you know, got dressed,

531
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: took a shower or whatever, and then from nine to ten.

532
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: If you just seriously write that all down, and then

533
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: you'll be shocked when you go back and read that

534
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: and go dude, I spend three hours and forty five

535
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: minutes average daily just on Facebook you know, there's your

536
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: rehearsal time, there's your songwriting time. Yeah, you know, seven

537
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: hours in the bathroom. That's embarrassing. Yeah, seven hours in

538
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: the bathroom, an hour every day, catching up on Grangersmith's podcast.

539
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: What that is great to keep doing? Keep doing that? Well,

540
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: go another light here and then we'll switch to heavy deal. Uh.

541
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: This is from Tony once again. I'm kind of catching

542
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: up here on emails. This is from September, but it

543
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: says he's from Chico, California. Love that town, Love our

544
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: fans in Chico. What's up? And this is a little

545
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: bit of a long one, so I'm going to try

546
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to find out what are you saying here? Said,

547
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: I have the pleasure of meeting you during a meet

548
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: and greet on December seventh, twenty nineteen, in Chico, California,

549
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: at the Senator Theater. It was great, and I had

550
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: the pleasure of giving you a Christmas ornament. It's funny

551
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: that we're reading this now in December. We're a year

552
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: removed from a very different twenty nineteen. He says, you're

553
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: my favorite artist, more than King George, more than garth Man.

554
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, dude. He said, I'm a big fan and

555
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm hooked on the podcast. That's so cool, he said,

556
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: leading into my question. I have so many he says.

557
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: I know your music is growing more mature. It seems

558
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: like a natural progression while many artists are still recording

559
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: the same kind of message material year after year. Actual

560
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: question here, it says Grander, looking back on your catalog

561
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: and the songs over the years, are there songs that

562
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: you now rethink maybe a message or a thought that

563
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: was good at the time, but maybe not right for

564
00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: me now? If so, can you share your thoughts. I

565
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: think that's a tough one. I mean, nothing's gonna I

566
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: mean a song that you wrote in the past, is

567
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: it applicable to you right now. You've been playing my catalog,

568
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: You've played almost everything in my catalog going back to

569
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and four five. And it's a good question.

570
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: It's a legit question because you would think I wrote

571
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: a song about a girl I was dating for say

572
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: per se, and now I've long since broke up with

573
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: that girl and I'm now married with children. Why would

574
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: I ever sing a song about that old girl that

575
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: was not a good girl. And so that's probably what

576
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: he's thinking, I see what you're saying. Or I don't

577
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: want to sing about me and my buddies in college,

578
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, with bonfires and trucks, because I don't do

579
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: that every day anymore. Maybe they's thinking that something like that,

580
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: And I think it's a good question. But I am.

581
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: Every year that goes by, every year I get removed

582
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: from an album, an old album, I get less critical

583
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: of it, which is weird. When our album first comes

584
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: out and the year that follows, that's when I'm the

585
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: most critical about those lyrics and that melody and that

586
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: music and those songs, and I think, oh, I could

587
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: have done that better, or I wish I wouldn't have

588
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: said it that way, or but when ten years go by,

589
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: it becomes like an antique, and then you kind of

590
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: enjoy the scars and the scratches and the dings and

591
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: the wobbling ness of it. You know, it's antique. It's

592
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be. It's supposed to be have its flaws. Yeah,

593
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: it's like a yearbook, you know. So it's fun. I'll

594
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: sing those songs as long as people are excited about

595
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: them at the live show, and I don't I've said

596
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: this before I don't have much interest into playing music

597
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: at my shows just for the sake of me loving

598
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: that music. I like to play it if other people

599
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: love it, because then in turn, that makes me feel

600
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: better about playing it. Yeah, and aren't they like, once

601
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: you write that song and release that song, it only

602
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: partially belongs to you. Those are now someone else's first kiss, dude,

603
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: last kiss. That's great, you know, like that's only partially yours,

604
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: but it's kind of your duty to give them that

605
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: nostalgia that is associated with that song. That's great. We

606
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: mean you have had that discussion in the van, like

607
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: late night drives in the van, and we've had these

608
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: these long drawn out discussions on why do you make

609
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: music or why do you perform music? And who does

610
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: that music belong to? Because you're right, at some level,

611
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: when I write we'll say, we'll say Earld it was Junior.

612
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: We'll just say America. When I write America, that's not

613
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: mine anymore once it releases, because there's people that like

614
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: that's the that's their bumping song, or you take a

615
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: love song like happens like that. I can't I can't

616
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: look at somebody that literally got married and that was

617
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: their first dance. I can't look at them and go,

618
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: that's not your song, that's my song. It's my song. Yeah,

619
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: So I have to assume their their partial ownership in

620
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: everything once it's released to the world, and I it's

621
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: not me speaking because I feel I feel an ownership

622
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: to some of George Strait songs and some of all

623
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: the music that I love. I feel partial ownership, like

624
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: that's mine. That's why people say that's our song. A couple,

625
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: that's our song. No one pulls out a you know,

626
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: a lawyer's agreement and goes, where does it say you

627
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: own this song? That's my jam. Yeah, that's my jam.

628
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: They don't say that's his jam that I that I

629
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: listened to, that's his jam. He wrote. The term is

630
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: that's my jam. That's our song. Everybody's been to a

631
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: concert where they either didn't play that song or they

632
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: didn't play that song, but then they came back and

633
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: played on played it on the encore and you're like, ah, man,

634
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: if they didn't play that song, I was gonna be

635
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: really upset because that's your memories. It's closely a sign,

636
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: closely assigned to you, like something you did or someone

637
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: you were with. Yeah. So to say that an old

638
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: song of mine that I might not, I might not

639
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: experience that life moment anymore, or it might be embarrassed

640
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: of it for any reason. To say that I'm gonna

641
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: pull it out of my catalog forever is to say

642
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: that no one else because I can't relate to it anymore,

643
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: no one else can either. And that's not that's not

644
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: a way to approach it. I'm not saying that every

645
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: artist doesn't do that, because there's probably a lot of

646
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: artists that do that that say Nope, ain't never played

647
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: that song again, not that I like, it's pretty selfish.

648
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: I heard, for instance, I heard, you know Corey Morrow,

649
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: who's a Texas, Texas country sing Corey Morrow is known

650
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: regionally in the state of Texas, and I've known him

651
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: for twenty years. He had a come to Jesus experience

652
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: in his life where he suddenly became Corey Morrow the

653
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: evangelist really, and what that did was suddenly he didn't

654
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: want to play certain songs, like he has a song

655
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: called big City Stripper. He will and it was like

656
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: one of his most popular songs. He will not play

657
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: big City Stripper. This is our merch guy Matt used

658
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: to work for him. This is where I heard the

659
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: story from. So Matt told me just the other day.

660
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: It's like Corey will not play it and people get mad.

661
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for it or against it in this scenario.

662
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a scenario of a time when

663
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: an artist goes, I'm never playing that song again. That's interesting.

664
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: So it's a great question. Although that's that's slightly different.

665
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: Well no, it's not different, but like he can't be like, yeah,

666
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm married, I met my wife. Our first dance to

667
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: that song makes me think of my wife. Well, here's

668
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: a question from Bobby, and it says see where he's from.

669
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it says that. It says, hey, Grander,

670
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: did you ever have any other album titles for Remington?

671
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: If so, what were they and how did you decide

672
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: on Remington from the start your album Remington is how

673
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I found you, and Remington just happens to be a

674
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: significant part of my family tree. Thank you, Bobby, Appreciate you, Bobby,

675
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: Thanks for the question. I could probably say that there's

676
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: some albums that I went back and forth on a

677
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: title for Remington is one of the ones that I'm

678
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: pretty sure, and this was in I think Remington was

679
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: like twenty fifteen, and I'm almost positive that Remington was

680
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: a title that I wanted for the album before I

681
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: even wrote that song. And sometimes it just happens sometimes

682
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: I go, Man, what if this album was called Remington.

683
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: It's just like a solid American name, And then I

684
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: could base the theme of the album around that title,

685
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: and so then obviously I had to write the song.

686
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: That's interesting, but I'm thinking that was a reverse process.

687
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: I wrote, I had the album title, and then I

688
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: wrote the song, and then the album was named after

689
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: the song, which was actually a title, So it's all backwards.

690
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know why you're saying, Bobby that Remington

691
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: is a significant part of your family treat It's interesting,

692
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: but I think I answered the best they could. Here

693
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: we go. This is this question is from Colton and says, Hey, Grangeer,

694
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: how do I deal with anxiety and depression? That's all

695
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: it says, one sentence, Hey Grangeer, how do I deal

696
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: with anxiety and depression? And I will say this is

697
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: one of the most and types of emails I get

698
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's because we're human and no

699
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: one is immune to this. It doesn't No amount of

700
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: money makes you immune to it. There's no secret. All

701
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: humans fall into this category. You have extremely poor people

702
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: that fall into this category. You have extremely wealthy people

703
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: that fall into this category. You have people that are

704
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: single and looking for love or friendship that fall into

705
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: this category. Then you have people that are happily married

706
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: with tons of friends that fall into this category. You

707
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: have everybody in between. So, Caleb, how do I answer this?

708
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: For so many people? You know me well enough. Yeah,

709
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't just bring Caleb in here

710
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: because he's some dude in the warehouse. Like you know,

711
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: we've had moments. We both have had high moments together,

712
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: and then me and you have had the lowest of moments.

713
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: I've seen you at your lowest, and you've seen me

714
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: at my lowest. I've seen you there multiple times, and

715
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: you've seen me there multiple times. I've also seen you

716
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: at your highest moments, and you've seen me at my highest.

717
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: So that's why you're on this podcast to help me

718
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: with I'm not just I wouldn't just go to a

719
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: random person and say help me answer this question. So

720
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: how do you say? How do you deal with this. Well,

721
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: I was just talking to someone the other day kind

722
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: of about this situation. I still deal with those two

723
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: anxiety and depression, and sometimes I can say it like that, Well,

724
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: there's this old saying, if you live with one foot

725
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: in yesterday and one foot in tomorrow, you're pissing on today,

726
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: meaning you're not really focusing on what's happening right now.

727
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: And look so good. That is so good man, looking

728
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: at this comment. You can take not because they could

729
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: both be in different areas. But like, let's say, anxiety

730
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: and depression. Sometimes depression can be associated with your past,

731
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: and anxiety is associated with your future. So that goes

732
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: back to the whole living and yesterday and tomorrow and

733
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: pissing on today. Is that if you were living, if

734
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: you can remind yourself that I am here right now,

735
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: I'm here right now sitting next to grange Er doing

736
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: a podcast, that helps me kind of be more present,

737
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: and then I'm not focused on what happened in the

738
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: past and I'm not focused on the anxiety of the future.

739
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: So not living in your head helps me, you know,

740
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: because you can get depressed about what you couldn't change

741
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: about the past, and you can get anxious about the

742
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: fears that you have about the future, but you're not

743
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: living in today. And we talked about it once before.

744
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: It could always get worse. You think it can, but

745
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: it can. So trying trying to live in the moment

746
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: as much as you possibly can helps you not focus

747
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: on the past or the future. I'm not saying that

748
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: like I know exactly I'll do it. I'm just saying, no,

749
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: that's the same. That's the same place I was going

750
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: to go with this answer is because your question is

751
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: how do I deal? You didn't say how do I

752
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: fix it? Or how do I avoid it? You said

753
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: how do I deal? And that's the correct way to

754
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: ask it, because there is no fix and there is

755
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: no avoiding it. So you deal with it by pulling

756
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: yourself into the moment and sometimes the present moment. Say

757
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: you're driving a car. Sometimes the present moment is what

758
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: are my hands doing on the steering wheel? Okay, I've

759
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: got I got my hands right here, then gripping What

760
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: does that steering wheel feel like? It's that fine of

761
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: a moment, like what is this What does it feel

762
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: like to be sitting in this seat? Like how do

763
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: I feel the seat of this vehicle under me, that

764
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: finite and and when my world has closed in so

765
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: much that I'm overwhelmed with that kind of anxiety, then

766
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: the one thing to pull me out. If I'm not

767
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna if I'm not going to get spiritual in this conversation,

768
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: the one thing to pull me out is to be

769
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: in the moment which to straddle this. This spiritual God

770
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: is always in the present. And there's many times in

771
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: the Bible where God, God talks about I am before

772
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: Abraham was I am. Everything about God and Christ is present.

773
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: It's here and now, and it's forever. It always was

774
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: and it always will be, and it always is. But

775
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: it's always present, moment present. That's when you see in

776
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: Easter everyone puts their signs in their yard that says

777
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: he is risen. And if you think about that for

778
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: a long time, you're like, that doesn't that sentence didn't

779
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: even make any sense. It wasn't it. He was risen,

780
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: He has risen, he will rise, but he is risen.

781
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make English sense, But it's it's because

782
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: it's currently happening. He is. He is risen. And if

783
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: all else fails to way to find God is now

784
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: in this moment, not tonight or tomorrow or Sunday morning

785
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: at church, or or regretting something you did in the past,

786
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: or remembering something that was good that is no longer.

787
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: It's right now and it's as present is. Like you said,

788
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: we're on this podcast, I'm nowhere else in this world

789
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: right now. I got all these things apparently going on,

790
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: like I'm family and Christmas is coming up, and where

791
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: are we going to go visit? Are we gonna go

792
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: see mom? And what's going on in Gee apparel? Right now?

793
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: What work is Caleb missing that I took him out

794
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: of so he could be None. None of that matters

795
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: except for where we are talking in this bus to

796
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: this camera. This is this is our lives and this

797
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: is this is where we are. So Colton, wherever you are,

798
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: stop for a minute. Breathe feel that literally the breath

799
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: in your nostrils and out of your mouth. That's where

800
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: you are, and there is peace in that present moment.

801
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: There is a lack of anxiety. Cannot live anxiety and

802
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: depression cannot live in your current breath. I agree. And

803
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: if you have one foot in yesterday and one foot

804
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: and tomorrow, you're pissing on the day. I like that,

805
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: such a good endagery. I love that we got time

806
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: for one more you call that. Oh yeah. This question

807
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: is from Dawson and it says, Hey, Grangeera, I've been

808
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: a longtime fan of yours and my girlfriend and I

809
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: really like your music, especially three songs in particular when

810
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: the good guys win. That's why I love Dirt Roads,

811
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: and they were there. I was wondering if I could

812
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: have the honor to propose to my girlfriend on stage,

813
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: and if you could help me with doing that. Well,

814
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't listen to this podcast. Yeah, I

815
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: might have just blown it. Maybe we don't say Dawson's

816
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: last name. Yeah, we won't say that's if there's been

817
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: another Dawson. Oh yeah, somewhere out there, there's a Dawson

818
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 1: who's not going to propose, who's like, oh no, let's

819
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: just let's roll with the fact that I've now read it,

820
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: I've now revealed it, and hopefully your girlfriend does not

821
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast. And this email came on November seventeenth,

822
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: so we're about we're exactly a month removed from that email.

823
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: So the answer is yes, and I want you to

824
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: let's see, I'm trying to figure out how to do

825
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: this without it being without tour manager Chris getting overwhelmed,

826
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: but just give him his phone number. Let's just say

827
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: his phone number over the podcast. But we have had

828
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: many people propose on our stage. There's a time when

829
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: happens like that was popular on the radio. There was

830
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: like a six month period when every single show, every day,

831
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: every single show, somebody proposed to a girl, so much

832
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: so that now we're starting to see the divorces coming

833
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: in with those same proposals. Full circle, Yeah, full circle, bro,

834
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: how is it? How's your wife? We split up? I

835
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: haven't seen you since split up, since twenty seventeen or whatever.

836
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens like that. It happens like that. So, yeah, Dawson,

837
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: my tour manager's name is Chris Lee. You could find

838
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: his Instagram is Chris Lee Country and I believe that's

839
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: his Twitter also, So hit him up dmm on there

840
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: and just say hey. Granger said on his podcast that

841
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: I could contact you. Now. The biggest problem with this

842
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: is we don't know when we're touring because of the craziness.

843
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you could hang on a little

844
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: bit buddy, hang on to twenty twenty one and we'll

845
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: be back around your town and I would love to

846
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: be able to get you on stage and propose to

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