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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a good meat

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Speaker 1: and potatoes news show. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the

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Speaker 1: Chris Westley podcast studio with my friend Jordan rod Reed,

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Speaker 1: and I'm fresh off of watching a real meat and

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Speaker 1: potatoes guy, Mike McCarthy do a tearful press conference as

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Speaker 1: the new coach of the Steelers, and it felt like

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Speaker 2: It it bothers me. That's what we're gonna do today.

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Speaker 3: We're kind of in our element, Greg, because we love news,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the the fun games are cool or

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Speaker 2: show that connects.

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Speaker 4: You're a brick by brick kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: We actually have a fun, very odd show coming up

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Speaker 1: later this week. I believe we're gonna drop it on Friday,

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Speaker 1: team Colleen Wolf, that's just a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: She's gonna end up coming up a little later in

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Speaker 1: the week. Let's start not with McCarthy. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the news that dropped on Tuesday, and it's that Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady is the new Buffalo Bills head coach a five

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Speaker 1: year deal. And I have been monitoring that they've been

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Speaker 1: announcing how long these deals are. McCarthy got five years,

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady got five years. I think that matters. You

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Speaker 1: know it could you could have gotten a Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: tape of deal.

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Speaker 2: This is different.

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady gets elevated from offensive coordinator to head coach.

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Speaker 1: Bill's fans not thrilled, I believe after the last week,

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Speaker 1: obviously a tough playoff loss, and then that press conference

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Speaker 1: felt like a disaster really in terms of public relations.

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Speaker 1: To put everything on McDermott, it's all his fault, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's the coaching staff's fault. But then to

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Speaker 1: elevate a guy that was on the coaching staff in

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Speaker 2: What do you think about this move big picture.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm having the same feeling that I think probably

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Speaker 3: a lot of people have had before, which is holy,

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Speaker 3: this guy's my age, hm, Like, this is you know,

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Speaker 2: And thirty six years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm younger than I guess, thank god, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is it's He is the youngest coach in the

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Speaker 3: NFL at this point to my knowledge, the youngest head

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Speaker 3: But this is interesting because they the reporting around this

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Speaker 3: from the jump was clear that Josh Allen would be

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Speaker 3: McDermott firing through similar reporting, right, So putting your distance

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Speaker 3: and then now aligning into Okay, this is very clearly

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Speaker 1: So Josh Allen was part of the interviews. We haven't

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Speaker 1: gotten into depth about this. What's been going on with

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Speaker 1: don't love that it and everyone's like, well, he should

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Speaker 1: all about getting Josh the most out of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: but I don't like players aren't usually literally in the interviews,

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Speaker 1: then to hire the guy that he is most comfortable

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Speaker 1: with to interview a guy in Philip Rivers that he

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Speaker 1: Brinston Steane, he didn't see that coming, you know, with Rivers, withdrawing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to feel, but I actually feel

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Speaker 1: a lot better if the news from our NFL network

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Speaker 1: insiders ends up being accurate that Jim Leonard is believed

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because the going back to what you're talking.

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Speaker 3: About with Josh Allen being in the interviews, well, with

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Speaker 3: Terry Pugula also being a part of this interview process,

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Speaker 3: reactions he witnessed from Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: Now that's what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: I assume that something like this was at least in

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Speaker 3: Terry Pogula came out in that disastrous press conference and

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Speaker 3: said he made the decision after witnessing Josh Allen crying. Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen's in the interviews, so it's a little bit leaning,

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Speaker 3: even if you want to pretend it's not your subconscious

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Speaker 4: Who is he comfortable with?

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Speaker 3: Who is he most you know, kind of vibing with

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Speaker 3: In the interview, he knows Joe Brady and has for years.

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Speaker 3: He's in his ear up until, you know, thirty seconds

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Speaker 3: And yeah, the Leonard thing, you know, he's a darling

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Speaker 3: Jim Leonard. What a lot of people don't know is

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Speaker 3: is he's such an intriguing candidate for coaches that you've

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Speaker 3: in the chance that he might become available. So this

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Speaker 1: So I guess they're not going to go with my suggestion,

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Speaker 1: which was that they take a look at Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, the players that they have in

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Speaker 1: I think it's Sean McDermott and that it could have

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Speaker 1: just edge him out, Dimiko, he's in the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: right now, Mike mccon, Mike McDonald that worked out well,

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Speaker 1: of people are just saying that it is not a surprise.

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Speaker 1: If if you're cynical, you look at it, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, if his goal was to amass as much

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Speaker 1: He is he got a promotion. Joe Brady got a promotion.

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Speaker 1: He has someone he knows well that's gonna be underneath him.

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Speaker 1: It is Brandon Bean's franchise. And the one positive I

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Speaker 1: a short timeline and despite that five year contract, like like,

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Speaker 1: this needs to go well in a year or two.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Bills fan, obviously you want it to

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Speaker 1: to have They're not really a coach and a GM

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Speaker 1: on different timelines because you hired Joe Brady. Joe Brady

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Speaker 1: is almost getting treated as a guy who's art is

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Speaker 1: going to get treated as a guy that's already been

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Speaker 1: there before, and they have to win, and they have

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Speaker 3: I like that point, Greg, because you're right that that

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Speaker 3: is absolutely true, and the age of the quarterback's a

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Speaker 3: bad the way that they are forever right, And so

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Speaker 3: I really feel like this is you're inheriting a similarly

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Speaker 4: You know, like Kutzpa.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like you.

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Speaker 3: Just you're automatically seeding control to Brandon Bean anyway, And

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Speaker 3: so is the roster going to look any different?

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Speaker 4: We have yet to see.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll find out.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned, Joe Brady a young man, so if

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Speaker 1: he's thirty six right now, he was either twenty one

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Speaker 1: the You know the artist formerly known as Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: that tweet was Andy Dalton, red heads in the League.

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Speaker 2: We made it.

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Speaker 1: I guess that was when Andy Dalton got drafted. It

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Will Gavin. By the way, what did

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Speaker 3: I warn the listeners about taking over? You guys just

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Speaker 3: keep an eye on this, okay, you just watch out.

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Speaker 2: The thing with Brady and we got to move on.

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Speaker 1: Like Olli Connelly's been pointing out all year, I thought

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Speaker 1: kickstarted that, and then they went away from it and

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Speaker 1: it didn't really make a lot of sense this year.

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Speaker 1: I also thought that game plan. I will always remember

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Speaker 1: that that twenty four playoff game, the championship game against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, just like there are moments in Joe Brady's

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Speaker 1: time where just like, what what's happening here? But let's

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Speaker 1: move to Pittsburgh where Mike McCarthy was hired, and honestly,

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Speaker 1: from the sound of it, like it was a very

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Speaker 1: sweet press conference, it was emotional and yeah, for Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: it felt like almost a culmination to go back to

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Speaker 1: the city that he was born.

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Speaker 5: I understand and embrace the responsibility the privilege in the

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Speaker 5: way that comes with the stewardship out of city, This franchise,

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Speaker 5: this fan base made the world to me because Pittsburgh's

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Speaker 5: my world and Dodds, it's just awesome to be back here.

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Speaker 1: And I love how emotional he was throughout the press conference.

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Speaker 1: He talked about making the call to his parents, but

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Speaker 1: that felt like he was really surprised to be there.

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Speaker 1: That was my biggest takeaway was he was so grateful.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Mike McCarthy is one of the more

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Speaker 3: They hope and somebody who grows with the team not

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and you could almost see how he got the

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Speaker 1: He said, how we're going to keep the three four

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Speaker 5: Question just a football one for you. I'm not asking

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Speaker 5: The game is so emotional, you know, what these men

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Speaker 3: So that's another thing about Mike McCarthy, and you know,

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Speaker 2: And he actually gave a great answer.

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Speaker 1: And yet when they started immediately pushing back and by

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, in a good way, yes way.

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Speaker 1: And so, like the obvious take from all this, it

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he is all in, but I think coaching

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a man who knows how hard it's

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Speaker 3: Best case scenario, you're looking at a successful retread. I

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you went from defense of Mike Tomlin aka Mike

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Speaker 4: You know, like that's that's really what it is.

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Speaker 4: He kept taking hits of that smart water vole.

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Speaker 3: And then also I had this thought come through, yes tofans, geek,

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Speaker 3: been more of a front row passenger to his own

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Speaker 3: life than Kevin Stefans?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Like I really, I Like, let me be clear, I

443
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Speaker 4: like the guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a very very nice person and he's well respected,

445
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Speaker 3: but it's like things he's just things are just happening

446
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Speaker 3: to him all around him. Like I still am not

447
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Speaker 3: quite sure what his identity is or is going to

448
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Speaker 3: be as a head coach here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that gave an indication, and the fact

450
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Speaker 1: that they hired Bill Callahan right away and they talked

451
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Speaker 1: about that, that's their offensive line coach who was with

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Speaker 1: him in Cleveland last year he was with the Titans,

453
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Speaker 1: and his son, Brian Callahan. I guess the last two.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's a zone blocking run scheme. It's a

455
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Speaker 1: good one, and they really ramatically.

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Speaker 4: I'm very aware of what his identity is. Let me

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Speaker 4: be clear that I was.

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Speaker 2: Going to get to that too, because.

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Speaker 1: I was texting with some and he wasn't given kind

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Speaker 1: of similar to McCarthy. Again i'm sounding critical, he wasn't

461
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Speaker 1: given that, giving that first like time head coach thing

462
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Speaker 1: like he seemed a little tired, Like it's he went

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Speaker 1: through a lot, yeah, in Cleveland, and then immediately is

464
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Speaker 1: just sort is the bell of the ball of this

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Speaker 1: coaching you know, psychle not not the top guy, but

466
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Speaker 1: essentially I think he had some teams fighting for him,

467
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Speaker 1: and immediately he's thrown into this other situation. I do

468
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Speaker 1: think there are times where you could benefit from taking

469
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Speaker 1: that year off or even taking a week off like

470
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Speaker 1: he is two weeks removed from just being in a

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Speaker 1: hole lot of Shader Sanders and Jimmy Haslam and winning

472
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Speaker 1: seven games in two years, and I think he's gonna

473
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Speaker 1: need to be supported, and I think he will be it.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of why I went with Matt Ryan for

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Speaker 1: the sound because Kevin Savanski, again, nice man. He never

476
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Speaker 1: says much at press conference, is pretty typical, but man,

477
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Speaker 1: was he short with words in this one. Like he

478
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Speaker 1: had and they were concise they answered the question, but

479
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Speaker 1: not really, but he just he didn't say anything. There

480
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Speaker 1: was like one bad joke early that no one laughed at,

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Speaker 1: and then it was just kind of like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's hiring a lot of his former people. His

484
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Speaker 3: his top assistant as well, he just hired over there.

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Speaker 1: It's basically Tommy Reese bring bringing who's got a play

486
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Speaker 1: call by the way, just a little news, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And his assistant to the head coach as well, he

488
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Speaker 3: just brought over. And so he's he is bringing over

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Speaker 3: essentially what he had in Cleveland, uh, and just sort

490
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Speaker 3: of transferring it with an I think an upgrade. You know,

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Speaker 3: obviously Bill Callahan. That's that's a great hire on paper, right,

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Speaker 3: But I think, like this is so interesting to me

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Speaker 3: because when I made the passenger comment, I mean, he's

494
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Speaker 3: a passenger in this press conference. You know, Matt Ryan

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Speaker 3: is full on broadcast franchise quarterback up there, right, And

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Speaker 3: maybe and listen, I made this point a couple of

497
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Speaker 3: weeks ago or days ago, I don't remember. Time has

498
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Speaker 3: no meaning at this point in the season. But like it,

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Speaker 3: it's maybe they needed that. Maybe they needed like a voice,

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Speaker 3: you know, like a direction, a voice, and at the moment,

501
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Speaker 3: they don't care who it comes from.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a great way to frame it,

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Speaker 1: because I think you're right. I think the Falcons are

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Speaker 1: trying to be like a Ravens type of organization where

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Speaker 1: it's top down and it's a system that the coach

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Speaker 1: is going to fit into.

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Speaker 2: And Stefanski talked about.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair to Stefanski, I mean he did

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Speaker 1: talk the most at that press conference. It was not

510
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Speaker 1: mostly Matt Ryan, but Matt Ryan said the only few

511
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Speaker 1: like interesting things and was much more commanding.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I picked out.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he said, like I came here mostly because

514
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Speaker 1: of Matt Ryan, more than anything, and he threw Arthur

515
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Speaker 1: blank in. But my relationship in the belief in him

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Speaker 1: and our connection and how we talked, and I kind

517
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Speaker 1: of believe it.

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Speaker 2: Their GM's not even in place. They have two finalists.

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Speaker 1: It's either gonna be James Lipfert from the Houston Texans

520
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Speaker 1: with two eyes in Lipfort not familiar with him, and

521
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Speaker 1: Ian Cunningham, who you've talked about and talked to on

522
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Speaker 1: your podcast. That will be the choice. And it sounds

523
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Speaker 1: like that'll happen soon. Just a couple little like Newsy items.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was pretty positive. Stefansky about Michael Pennock

525
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Speaker 1: says he gets through his reads fast, that they were definitely,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to talk up Michael PENNOCKX didn't really

527
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Speaker 1: want to say anything about his time with Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's telling in what he didn't say. He again,

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Speaker 1: I wrote hired. He would not go into the Baker,

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Speaker 1: the Baker drama of it all. I did, like de

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Speaker 1: Orlando Ledbetter said sorry for sicking Baker on you guys,

532
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Speaker 1: what do you think about all that? And he was

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Speaker 1: just like, I love rivalries. I have a ton of

534
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Speaker 1: respect for Baker Mayfield. That was all he wanted to uh,

535
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Speaker 1: led alleged it was all he wanted to say about that,

536
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Speaker 1: and uh. He also said the quote smooth seas do

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Speaker 1: not make skillful skillful sailor.

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Speaker 4: M I think I saw that on a wooden sign

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Speaker 4: in someone's kitchen.

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Speaker 1: Because the question was kind of like, hey, like, what

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Speaker 1: do you say to the Falcons fans that note you

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Speaker 1: won seven games combined over the last two years or

543
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Speaker 1: something like that, And I was like, oh, suddenly, like

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Speaker 1: it was kind of a hard, a hard question, you know,

545
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a hard moment was the moment that Chris

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Speaker 1: Babona came up with a theory that immediately cracked me

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Speaker 1: up and made me laugh where he pointed out that

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski kind of resembles the Falcons logo. Uh, we're

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Speaker 1: showing this to you when he is in profile. I

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Speaker 1: kind of buy it. I know it's not like a

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Speaker 1: one to one thing, but spiritually he is kind of

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Speaker 1: the Falcons logo.

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Speaker 3: There's a little similar like angular swooping yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the coloring and and look, I love that logo.

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Speaker 1: He said it was an iconic logo in the NFL

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Speaker 1: that he's always looked up to. I was like, hmmm,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that with the Falcons, but he's

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Speaker 1: kind of got an iconic profile.

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Speaker 2: He's a handsome man.

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Speaker 4: I was on the rundown. I was wondering what the

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Speaker 4: hell that was.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: Let's actually take a break while listening to again, just

564
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Speaker 1: a fun little moment I had watching this, and you know,

565
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan showing that he's with the cool kids, he

566
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Speaker 1: knows the Atlanta references, he understands the assignment. On the

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Speaker 1: other side, we'll do some more coaching news in a

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Speaker 1: little Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Sam Princechall CBS Atlanta in ninety game, Welcome to Atlanta, coach.

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Speaker 6: I feel like we should be saying where the players play,

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Speaker 6: where the players play.

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Speaker 2: Back on the.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep that. We interrupt this coaching update news

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Speaker 1: to uh have a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of a concerning the Super Bowl up it.

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Speaker 1: Sometime on Monday just started like buzzing around that like

577
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Speaker 1: is Big Mace stold her healthy And I'm not even

578
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Speaker 1: sure exactly where it came from, and this and that,

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Speaker 1: and then I don't know if we're gonna go def

580
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: Con three here. But when Mike Rabel was asked about

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Speaker 1: it on Tuesday. It did not make me feel any

582
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Speaker 1: better person.

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Speaker 7: No, I won't say that anybody hurt anything, you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Again, this is a.

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Speaker 7: This is a sport where there's going to be things

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Speaker 7: that come up. But I don't think that there's a

588
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Speaker 7: you know, we'll talk about whatever status each player has

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Speaker 7: for the game once we're required to. We understand that.

590
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Speaker 7: But you know, we were able to function offensively, throw

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 7: the football, run the football. So that's kind of where

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00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 7: everybody's at.

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Speaker 2: At a couple other times too.

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Speaker 4: And he breathing, he's fine.

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Speaker 2: Nobody.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the position to say anyone heard anything

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00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: or nobody heard anything. You're asked pretty directly, does your

598
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: starting quarterback of a shoulder injury? And you won't answer that.

599
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I think it could be something. And I know the

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00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: exact play that he came down awkwardly and it almost

601
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: immediately sort of grabbed at it, and you know it

602
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: was in the play. It was in the game when

603
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: he got tackled kind of awkwardly from behind, I believe

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00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: on a rush or actually was like a short sack

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00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: where he had run up to the line of scrimmage.

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00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: And my spidey senses say this is actually a little

607
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: bit of a thing, because they even asked Drake May

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Speaker 1: if he thought he would be limited, and he said

609
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: it was too early to tell with that, but I'm optimistic.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna be playing this game. He finished out

611
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: last time. All this stuff, but it's kind of the

612
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: last thing they need with a big, uphill battle against

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Speaker 1: what I believe to be the best steam in football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: And also he said on WEEI that he's like, I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't say it's injured. It's more like, you know, you

617
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 3: throw for thirty weeks in a row, and I'm like, okay,

618
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Speaker 3: So that's sort of subtly admitting that there is there's

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Speaker 3: something that's really that is bothering him, but not trying

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Speaker 3: to assign it to like a specific incident or like

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Speaker 3: an incident that could be like that's where he was injured.

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Speaker 4: To me, there's a lot of like hedging.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of hedging, but it's also something you know,

624
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: people are people whisper, people talk, and so I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a topic of conversation over the

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. Let's talk about things we actually do. No,

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Speaker 1: let's go briefly with the Brian Dable news, which I

628
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Speaker 1: don't want to stick on because it's more of a

629
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Speaker 1: statement about where reporting is on this cycle. Brian Dable

630
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Speaker 1: was bouncing around as a candidate in different spots. It

631
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Speaker 1: was reported by ESPN and the Athletic I want to

632
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: get you in trouble, so I'll just speak on it

633
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: that he was gonna take the offensive coordinator job in Tennessee,

634
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Speaker 1: which would be really interesting cam word Brian Dable, And

635
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Speaker 1: then almost immediately afterwards it said, well, he's still in

636
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: the mad for like the Raiders job in theory, and

637
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: then there was another report following up that said, well,

638
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Speaker 1: he's also possibly in the mix for the Eagles offensive

639
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: coordinator job.

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00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: Well, what are we reporting? Like, what is what these

641
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: contingent reports? I don't need it.

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00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: Let's wait till he's actually let's wait till it's actually reported.

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Let's even just move past it. I'm not even gonna

644
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: let you talk about this because it's just like I

645
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: was texting with different people about this. What is the

646
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: contingent reporting? It was happening with Mike McDaniel in LA

647
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: and he did end up in La. We'll get to

648
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: that in a second. But if he's still in the

649
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: mix for other jobs, who cares that? One team expects

650
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: that he's gonna take their job, but they don't really know,

651
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: you know what we do know? Jonathan Gannon is the

652
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Speaker 1: Packers defensive coordinator. Do you have thoughts about your Arizona

653
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals former head coach? I mean, you grew up a

654
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals fan. You gotta wear that more often going to

655
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Speaker 1: Green Bay and being back in the spotlight for a

656
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: team competing in their minds for a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I think that Jonathan Gannon is an outstanding defensive coordinator,

658
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Speaker 3: so I think this is a good hire. What I

659
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Speaker 3: am interested in is the personality dynamics between Matt Lafleur,

660
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Speaker 3: who is quite specific.

661
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Speaker 2: I was like, what word are you searching for? Controlling?

662
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: I actually don't know what you're searching.

663
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Speaker 3: He's very specific about how he wants to do things

664
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Speaker 3: and what he wants it. Also, Jonathan Gannon is the

665
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: same way, so blending those two philosophies together being as

666
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: aggressive as they were, which was a refreshing change I

667
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: think for Packers fans to see a defense that was

668
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: not going to sit back in some of these deeper

669
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: zone coverages instead was going to get a little bit

670
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: more aggressive. That's something I think Jonathan Gannon can absolutely

671
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: help with. I think he's it'll be interesting to see.

672
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: I am curious about who he brings over if he

673
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: can from that previous staff. There's a couple of guys

674
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: on defense over there that are sort of just waiting

675
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: for their turn, waiting to maybe stay or go depending

676
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 3: on what Arizona does.

677
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: At head coach is coordinator Nick Ralis.

678
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: Nick Ralis specifically would be the top would be the

679
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: top one. But it is interesting to me because this

680
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: is an example of a high profile defensive coordinator candidate

681
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: and the Packers actually going after it and doing it.

682
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: There was a lot of I think well earned criticism

683
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: of the Packers in this offseason about the level of

684
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: investment that they allow their coaching staff to make in

685
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: their assistant coaches. Justice Scotta did a really really great

686
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: look at that and the experience level and how much

687
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: that's dropped off because you don't have the financial terms

688
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: as well. I just think that this is a little

689
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: bit of a sea change type of move for the

690
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Speaker 3: Packers that they're willing to go out and get somebody

691
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: who was a former head coach and who has a

692
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: track record of being a very very good defensive coordinator.

693
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's been flexible.

694
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: His defenses in Arizona looked nothing like his defenses in Philadelphia,

695
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: which I actually think is a credit to him. Yeah,

696
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: because he had such different types of talent. I really

697
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: like this two minutes that I saw from a reporter

698
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: or a radio host I was unfamiliar with before. His

699
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: name is Grant Bilsa, where he did like two minutes

700
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: to where like it's fine. The half Lee hire was fine,

701
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: Halfley's performance was fine. This will probably be fine, And

702
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Speaker 1: I kind of agree. I agree with all that, Like

703
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: there's not as big of a difference between it all

704
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: as you think. There's actually a lot of similarities, maybe

705
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Speaker 1: because Lafleur wants things run a certain way. He even

706
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: went back to the Joe Barry was actually more fine

707
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: than you think. It wasn't that big of a difference.

708
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have gotten that far,

709
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: but I get what he's I get what he's trying

710
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: to say, and I do I agree with him. I

711
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: think it'll be fine, and it would be a good

712
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: spot if they do well that Jonathan Ginnon could could

713
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: get back in the mix.

714
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: The Jets made a surprise move.

715
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: They are getting rid of Tanner Engstron, their offensive coordinator.

716
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: That just came out Tuesday afternoon, right before we were taping.

717
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: I was going to talk about how quietly, after a

718
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: couple weeks he wound up getting rid of about seven

719
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: or eight different assistant coaches. Aaron Glenn and Zach Rosenblat

720
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: at The Athletic reported how a lot of these coaches

721
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: were kind of given the impression that they were going

722
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: to stay, and Engstrand I think was one of those guys,

723
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: and then they started looking for someone who would come

724
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: over the top of him and maybe call plays, but

725
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: he would get to stay. That someone might be Frank Reich.

726
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: It sounds like the strong choice to be offensive coordinator.

727
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: That really worked last time.

728
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: But now that Engstrand is no longer there, you know,

729
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: they have to satisfy the Rooney rule for those higher

730
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to like do a full, you know,

731
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: interview cycle. It doesn't sound great. It either sounds like

732
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: he was indecisive or ownerships getting involved.

733
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: But either way, we're like two.

734
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: And a half weeks away from the season ending, right

735
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: are we at three now? I'm losing track of time

736
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: and they're just starting over.

737
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 2: They're just starting their search.

738
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: So if you're a Jets fan and you want to

739
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: feel like better about things could be changing, this does

740
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: not give you that confidence.

741
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: It is so late to your point in the process

742
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: to change what a lot of people don't know because

743
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: we see these the flurries of moves as the season ends.

744
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: But for teams that are expecting change in advance, or

745
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 3: for coaches that are expecting to be on the interview cycle,

746
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: they've already built out like depth charts of their staffs.

747
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: So not only do you not have that in play,

748
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 3: like we've already lost out to all of the people

749
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: who have already gone and got the guys that they

750
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: want on their teams.

751
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: And this is this is a problem. I think this

752
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: is this is a real problem.

753
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: And if you're competing with the teams that are left,

754
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: you know that are still hiring, because there is a

755
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: lot of hiring to be fair, to be to go,

756
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: but there's been backroom conversations.

757
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: You're catching up on that.

758
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: But also, HM, should I would I rather join the

759
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: bills and Josh Allen and what's going on there, or

760
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. You know, like if you're competing and the Steelers,

761
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, if you're competing with other teams that are

762
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: late in the process too. I think the Jets is

763
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: the toughest sell of any situation because they're on the

764
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: hottest of seats. Speaking of guys who you know were

765
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: quite popular in this cycle, Grant Yudnski, I just wanted

766
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: to throw this in there. They announced in Jacksonville is

767
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: gonna get a raise and a new contract. He's gonna

768
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: stay as the offensive coordinator under Liam Cohen. He was

769
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: in the mix for the Bills job, the head coaching job, clearly.

770
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Did not get it.

771
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: He was one of the Now it seems like countless

772
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: people who withdrew from the Browns head coaching job before

773
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: even becoming a finalist. So good job by them, keeping Udinsky.

774
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Chargers who got their man.

775
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: In the end.

776
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: It is time for delivering results presented by Uber Eats.

777
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: When football makes you hungry, order Uber eats. It is

778
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's time, and everyone is talking about, like, what

779
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: a weird combination Mike McDaniel and Jim Harbor, and it

780
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: felt even weirder after he stepped up to the podium and,

781
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: according to Mina Kimes, was wearing what she thought was

782
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: a twelve thousand dollars Bottega jacket.

783
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that is that's outrageous.

784
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to McDaniel talking about his interaction with

785
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: his new boss, Jim Harbaugh.

786
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 8: Jim wasn't trying to sell me anything, and I felt

787
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 8: that he I think he recognognized that. Yeah, he was

788
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 8: excited about, you know, the prospect if and only if

789
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 8: it was a marriage that was consensual, you know, and

790
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 8: not a hostage situation. I feel the same guy.

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00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: He's just he's just taller.

792
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: He also said later, Uh, like I'm gonna go all

793
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: doctors from now on. Like that's that's gonna be my new,

794
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: my new.

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00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: I love it. Uh. I mean he was getting a

796
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: tricky territory. Uh.

797
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: He wanted a marriage that was consensual, not a hostage situation.

798
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, do you know any marriages like that?

799
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's gonna be fun, gotta be fun.

800
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: I'm glad he's out here. How dare you? Eyes wide

801
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Chet was an amazing piece of art and I'm just.

802
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: Saying I think, forget that image of her walking out

803
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: of the court house, Greg.

804
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: They're strange relationship help powered that insane but cool piece

805
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: of art. So I support them for that. What a

806
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: weird combo this is gonna be. But I think it's

807
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. I think it's so beautiful because

808
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: I like that he said that. I think we're the

809
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: same person because I would tend to agree. I mean,

810
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: they think about things, they think about the world differently.

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00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: I would very much think that. But also, but I

812
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: think that.

813
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: Like Mike is this extremely obsessive football guy who wants

814
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: to look under every rock and will search far and

815
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: wide for any type of innovation. And that's what makes him.

816
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: That's a superpower. That's what makes him as gifted as

817
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: he is. He connects with people, He's authentic, he believes

818
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: in his players. I think sometimes he was a little

819
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: too player friendly or willing to acquiesce maybe some discipline

820
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: on behalf of his players when he was in Miami.

821
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: He won't have a problem with that because Jim Harbaugh

822
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: will definitely keep setting the tone in that building.

823
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: And I love that.

824
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: It's like a quarterback who is widely considered to be

825
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: an introvert, even though he's built like a superhero.

826
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Speaker 4: It is a sort of.

827
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Speaker 3: An oddball quote yet quintessential tough guy at football guy,

828
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: like the football guy as a head coach. And then

829
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Speaker 3: it's also Mike McDaniel, who is a very creative, very

830
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 3: talented play caller and scheme designer, who also I think

831
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: has more to him than a lot of people got

832
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: to see in Miami. There's a toughness there that we've

833
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: talked about. I know, I don't need a wax poetic

834
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: again on the show, but that dude got some stuff

835
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Speaker 3: to him seriously.

836
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Speaker 1: And I think whatever those weaknesses were, maybe being too

837
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: much of a player like that worked as a coordinator. Yeah,

838
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: and he spoke, He said all the things that charges

839
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: fans would want to hear about, not wanting Herbert to

840
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: have to do so much, not having him be in

841
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: such a vulnerable position, and what Mike McDaniel does best

842
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: is build a running game, which I'm sure spoke to

843
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, and that'll help out Herbert more than anything.

844
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited about this subplot of the twenty

845
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: twenty sixth season. Before we even get there, I also

846
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: like the marriage of McDaniel and the Chargers social team. Yes,

847
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: because the Panthers are great. There's some great ones out there,

848
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: but I think the Chargers right now hold the title

849
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: as like the best social team, and I think it's

850
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: just gonna be a fun little combination. They actually announced that,

851
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: like it was officially happening with like a little bizarre

852
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: clip of a social media moment.

853
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 8: Intruce yourself, Yeah, this is a this isn't gonna be

854
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 8: a vape question?

855
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Is it? Big question?

856
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 5: Now?

857
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 8: How you guys roll? All right, it's up Mike McDaniel,

858
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 8: offensive coordinator for the Chargers.

859
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: Just a little tease of some game that McDaniel is

860
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: going to be played. But I love like that was

861
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: literally the way that they even announced that.

862
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: He says, there, it's Mike McDaniels.

863
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: This isn't gonna be a vape question? Is it? Bro

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Speaker 1: Quickly, the Giants hired Denard Wilson as their defensive coordinator.

869
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: He was the coordinator for the Titans last year, but

870
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: he was with John Harbaugh in Baltimore when John Harbaugh

871
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: did choose zach Or over Wilson as his coordinator when

872
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: he needed to replace Mike McDaniel, but obviously a lot

873
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: of familiarity there. The Giants are also waiting to find

874
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: out what happens with Todd Monkin because they believe that's

875
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: going to be their offensive coordinator. In Les, Monkin gets

876
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: another job, and he is still possibly in the mix

877
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: for the Browns job. Let's wrap up just hitting the

878
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: three teams that are still available. Like every twelve hours,

879
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: a new leader in the clubhouse emerges for the Browns job.

880
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: There's different guys who have withdrawn from the idea of

881
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: being it right now, it seems to be down to

882
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: guy and by your guy, just a guy with the

883
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: rams Nate field House, the young you know, assistant of

884
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. Does he have passing game coordinator titles? Okay,

885
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: but not the offensive coordinator. That's Mike will Fleur who

886
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: is on our show. Todd Mounkin, who Mary Kay Cabot

887
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: says is still in the mix. And then Jim Schwartz,

888
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: their former defensive coordinator who at various points people are

889
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: saying like, well, HASLM is making them keep Schwartz, or

890
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: that Schwartz could actually just get that job, that that's

891
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: just like sitting out there, and it's it sounds like

892
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna wrap up pretty soon, Like I'm gonna be annoyed.

893
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: That's gonna happen right after we're done they've.

894
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: Gotten through their second interviews and also apparently what's been

895
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: reported as like personality tests and written assignments and whatever,

896
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 3: because they're definitely doing this process smarter than everybody else.

897
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: Is the most highly team front office in the in

898
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: the game. No, I really think that this is a

899
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: complicated thread that they're trying to needle that they're trying

900
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: to thread because you can't lose Jim Schwartz.

901
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: You can't.

902
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: He's got you playing the best defense of a year

903
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: over year of almost any team in the NFL, despite

904
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: the fact that the offense is consistently letting them down,

905
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: and so you can't lose him. But how can you

906
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: be sure that whoever you bring in isn't going to

907
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: want to bring in their own guy versus somebody who

908
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 3: is already aligned.

909
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: With leadership in the team. You can't.

910
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: It's an incongruous power structure. It's part of the problem

911
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: of having a power structure that exists like this in

912
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: the first place. It's a bad process cleaning house. It's

913
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: kind of the they have a written exam Greg.

914
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to make fun of him

915
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: as much for that, which maybe the coaches didn't didn't

916
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: love doing, and who knows, maybe that's why they withdrew.

917
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: It's probably more about the situation with the roster and

918
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: the history of the team under Jimmy Haslam and everything.

919
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: But it's bad process, just like the Steelers are bad

920
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: process to say, like we need a three four defense,

921
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: Like it became clear in the macar at the press

922
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: conference to me that like they told them, like, we

923
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: believe in a few different things, and here's what we

924
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: believe and that's it's if you want to be on

925
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: the cutting edge, that's not the way to do it.

926
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 3: That's probably what happened with Shula. Hey, we want a

927
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: three four defense, Oh, I like to play a lot

928
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 3: of five man from bye Like right, it's like it.

929
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: Just didn't it didn't fit. And so we'll see.

930
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Because if you're Jim Schwartz, why would you want to

931
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: stick around with the Browns. When if you don't get

932
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: the head job they just passed on you, you might be

933
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: a little annoyed you're not getting considered for other head jobs.

934
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen.

935
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: But at the very least you could go to a

936
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: spot where you get paid great. I'm sure you get

937
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: paid great in Cleveland. They do pay. But also, you know,

938
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: you could get a little more pop on a winning team.

939
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: It must be fun to be more in contention. So

940
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's a little messy. I don't think Cardinals

941
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: or Raiders fans are feeling great either right now. You

942
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: do wonder, you know, watching the Raiders opening and it's

943
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: just kind of sitting out there and there's different second

944
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: interviews happening. Davis Webb, who is the the QB coach

945
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: in Denver, is getting a second interview with the Raiders.

946
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: Did Anthony Weaver get a second interview there? I know

947
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: he did with Arizona. No, not with the Raiders. Clint

948
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: Kubiak is a name that a lot of people are

949
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: kind of connecting. And there was Tom Brady announcing the

950
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: game with you. You know, you were there in Seattle

951
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: on Sunday and watching maybe Clint's you know, best night

952
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: as a pro.

953
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he got maybe so tired of pining

954
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: for Ben Johnson, who he could never quite have while

955
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: announcing his games, that he's maybe he's thinking, I'm not

956
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: going to let this happen to me again.

957
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: I don't know. It sounds like if it's not this.

958
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: Job for Clint Kubiak, like he's perfectly happy to stay

959
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: where he's at empowered as possible in Seattle. He might

960
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: be up for a contract soon as well, Especially the

961
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: guy goes on the cycle this quickly, usually that means

962
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: new money is coming his way. So and and I

963
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: like the fit, and this is a super Bowl team,

964
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: so we'll kind of see how it goes. But and

965
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: Mike lafloor in Arizona, here's the thing. Cardinals fans, however,

966
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: they may think about this and where the Cardinals really

967
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: stood or maybe didn't stand in terms of competitiveness in

968
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: the cycle. Overall, Mike Laflora is kind of going to

969
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: be an unknown a little bit in terms of how he'll.

970
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: You're talking about him like he's gonna you think he's

971
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: going to get the job.

972
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: I think I think he's a favorite to get the job,

973
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: and and if you know, kind of an unknown in

974
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: terms of how he's going to be a head coach.

975
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I think he's a much

976
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: better play caller, especially this second time around when he

977
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: gets a chance. He's gotten a couple of shots to

978
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: do it in LA for Sean, certainly better than he

979
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: was reputationally, at least for the Jets. And he's also

980
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: like maybe the one person who you could tap in

981
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: to be insane enough to take on Sean McVay and

982
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: Kyle shanahan and Mike McDonald.

983
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: You don't his too, his.

984
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: Two former bosses like it's it's a bad honestly, you

985
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: take away everything else about that Cardinal's job. It's a

986
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: bad job for that reason. And so he's he's the

987
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: one who knows those guys on a like molecular level

988
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: in terms of working so closely with them for so

989
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: many years and knows how they tick. He would be

990
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: the one crazy enough to take that job. That's all

991
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

992
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: It's a great point, and I just mean it's too much.

993
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: We need a little like diversity in that division. We

994
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: don't all the you know, Mike McDonald come in there

995
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: to break it all up. And then you add another

996
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: Lafleur who's like Sean mcvay's his brother is the best.

997
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: It's just I know, we don't need we don't need

998
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: another Lafleur. We don't need another McVeigh.

999
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: You would, you would like it. It'd be good for

1000
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: rodrig Corp. You know, just like another there. I'm the

1001
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: NFC West, That's what I mean.

1002
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 3: Girl here, And you know what if it keeps fueling

1003
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: the brand, uh.

1004
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: Mike Lafleur uh trying to get the NFL Daily bump

1005
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: that unfortunately John Spydeck did not, you know, but this

1006
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: next year he will.

1007
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's not listening.

1008
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: Sounds like, by the way, Sean McDermott would have had

1009
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: a chance at that job based on some of the reporting,

1010
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: and that he is likely to take a year off

1011
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: almost certainly to take a year off from coaching, which

1012
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: I think it's good for someone like him, I think

1013
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: is really smart, might have helped out THEFANSKI and especially

1014
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: for him, like, don't go to a suicide mission type

1015
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: of job just to get the paycheck, because you've already

1016
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: gotten that paycheck. I'm less judgmental about a guy like

1017
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: Michael Fleur, It's like, will he get another head coaching

1018
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: offer in his life? Like he could, but it's very

1019
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: possible he couldn't. And that's life changing money. And I

1020
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: think that needs to not be forgotten in all this

1021
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, they're doing okay as coordinators. None of

1022
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: this is guaranteed, and you're just offered a five year

1023
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: contract for millions of dollars a year that represents a

1024
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: you know whatever, it is, four hundred five hundred percent race, Like, yeah,

1025
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: most people are gonna take that, like you have to

1026
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: be a Ben Jonson type of confident guy that you

1027
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: know you're gonna always be that guy.

1028
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: And I don't blame them for taking it.

1029
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: Temperamentally, I think he is equipped to walk into a

1030
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: situation like that. I don't know how he would be

1031
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: as a coach, but inper mentally and in terms of

1032
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: how he sees the sport and the big picture of

1033
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: it and how he sees off like, I think he

1034
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: is equipped to it because the stakes around him are

1035
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: very high and that's just an almost impossible climb to

1036
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: get out of in that franchise right.

1037
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: Now, Speaking at high stakes, how about Arthur Smith going

1038
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: to be the Ohio State offensive coordinator. We did our

1039
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: top fifty prospects. When I say we, I mean Daniel

1040
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: Jeremiah did it. I know nothing about these men, but

1041
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: we talked about it on Forties and Free Agents. We're

1042
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: hitting you with two shows in the Feed on Tuesday,

1043
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: so check that one out too. And I noted how

1044
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: you know there's four Ohio State guys in the top

1045
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: ten prospects and they didn't find a way to get

1046
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: a win.

1047
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: So you got, you know, to win the title. You

1048
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: got to win.

1049
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: But it's really hilarious to me that Arthur Smith is

1050
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and Matt Patricia is the defensive coordinator

1051
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: and just at Ohio State. If you had told me

1052
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: that like five or ten years ago, that I would

1053
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: have been very surprised by that. And so good luck

1054
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: to him. No more Arthur Smith in the NFL. Let's

1055
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: get out of here.

1056
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: We did it.

1057
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: We got in and we got out, and we're going

1058
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: to be back in the feed a little later this week,

1059
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: me you, Colleen and Patrick. I'm looking forward to that.

1060
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: I will be back in the feed next with Ali Connolly.

1061
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: That show will be on Thursday. Looking forward to that.

1062
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what's next. I'm losing check of all

1063
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: time space. Continue.

1064
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the super Bowl, right that game

1065
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: will happen. Josh Dobson isn't gonna play in that game,

1066
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: is he?

1067
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: Please? No,