WEBVTT - Minecraft! Minecraft! Minecraft!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry's here too, and this is Stuff you Should

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<v Speaker 1>Know in Way over our Heads edition.

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<v Speaker 2>The help Parents understand what their child is doing in

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<v Speaker 2>their room all day Edition.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope so, but I suspect that more than just

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<v Speaker 1>parents are going to listen to this. And I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been more nervous about what a group of eight year

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<v Speaker 1>olds thinks of me than I am right now because

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<v Speaker 1>I know too much about Minecraft, like I can go

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<v Speaker 1>way too deep in it, But I also feel very

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<v Speaker 1>clearly I don't know enough to not get hate mail

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<v Speaker 1>for misspeaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would maybe not dig too deep on this one,

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<v Speaker 2>because the deeper you go, the more you risk. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's being mad for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the key things about Minecraft is like

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing but rabbit holes. You look up one thing

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, that leads to ten other things,

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<v Speaker 1>and those ten other things lead twenty other things each.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so fascinating how complex and complicated this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, especially when you understand the actual mechanics of

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<v Speaker 1>how these worlds are built, how they originate, how simple

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's just I love it. I love Minecraft

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. If I didn't get addicted to things that

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I would probably start playing Minecraft. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that would ruin my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you're addicted to podcasting with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally am. I can't get enough of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if that wasn't clear all that that

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<v Speaker 2>we just said, like this is officially a CoA, like

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<v Speaker 2>this will be a broad overview of a very very

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<v Speaker 2>very dense game that neither one of us play. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get stuff wrong. We're not going to dive

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<v Speaker 2>into things you want us to dive into. So just

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<v Speaker 2>an email disappointed. Yeah, Like, I can't believe you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>mention blank, like just say it. And thanks to Ruby

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<v Speaker 2>we got a little help.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I sent some questions last night that I guess, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>will Pepper in it if they apply?

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<v Speaker 1>For sure? Yeah, there was a few things that I

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't nail down, and I was like, oh that

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby knows this, and sure enough she did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well maybe, I mean she doesn't really play anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>She played.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of glad about this. Like Minecraft is a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful game, and we're going we'll go over the benefits

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<v Speaker 2>of it, because there are many compared to most video games,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also a game, and we'll go over the pitfalls.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also a game that can really get under your

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<v Speaker 2>skin as a kid and as an adult. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>But what it's not great if you're a kid and

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<v Speaker 2>you have other things like schooling to do, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a kid that's super super super super into it,

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<v Speaker 2>and she never got that into it. She really enjoyed it,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's a kind of kid if like you take

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<v Speaker 2>it away or for go away for a minute, she says, like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I'll just do something else, which is he's

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<v Speaker 2>just good.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not gonna give you the satisfaction of pun.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know, honestly, think she just forgets oh cool,

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<v Speaker 2>because she was all into the Roadblocks game, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a whole other kind of game, and like really into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a punishment for something, we we wiped it

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<v Speaker 2>off her iPad along with everything else except for music.

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<v Speaker 1>Like were you yelling when you did it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, But we just cleaned the iPad free of everything

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<v Speaker 2>except for podcast and music and it's like the next

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<v Speaker 2>day she was like, oh, all right, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>That reminds me. Do you remember Doctor Katz, the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>cartoon with the squiggly lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it loved cats.

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<v Speaker 1>And Don Morrera was a regular on that. Man here

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<v Speaker 1>was a great Yeah, he is great. He was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how cats just never give you the satisfaction of like,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what you do to him, they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let on that you've bothered them. So, like he

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<v Speaker 1>gave the example of throwing a cat through the air,

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<v Speaker 1>the cat would be like, thanks, my man, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go this way anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Well into cats too, So maybe that's it. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>she's part cat.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. I think that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, so that's fine, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we should give a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>background on Minecraft for people who don't know what Minecraft is. Surely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at the very least most people walking around

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's a very, very very popular video.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, right yeah, I mean I think so, And we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into the history. But at its base, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, if you look at it, it goes

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<v Speaker 2>counter to a lot of like the way it got

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<v Speaker 2>popular is just almost astounding in some ways, because it

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<v Speaker 2>goes counter to most video games these days, which try

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<v Speaker 2>to make things very very real looking, and Minecraft is

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<v Speaker 2>very blocky and pixelated, an old school and it's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like an interactive lego game. It's called the sandbox game,

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<v Speaker 2>where you can just go around and and build things

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<v Speaker 2>you mind, things to craft with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's the point. And there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>things to do. Like it's not like they're like nothing happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like like you can because there are so few rules,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no real point to it. There's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a game that you like want to win or conquer

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Like, it's essentially up to the limits

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<v Speaker 1>of your imagination what you do in this amazing blocky world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And despite those blocks, despite the fact that there

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<v Speaker 2>is no real plot, it is the best selling PC

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<v Speaker 2>game of all time, second to Tetris as the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>video game in Tetris. By the way, that's coming. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to do that's got a great story to it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we need to do one of those. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's one of the all time giants. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was created by a not very good dude named Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>with a K Person of Sweden aka Notch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was a coder from wayback, like he

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<v Speaker 1>taught himself on a Commodore one twenty eight, which came

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<v Speaker 1>out in nineteen eighty five. I'm not quite sure how

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<v Speaker 1>old he was when he was working on it, but

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<v Speaker 1>just suffice to say, like that's like you really had

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<v Speaker 1>to understand code to code with one of those things. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he was like a game developer, a coder from

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<v Speaker 1>from the outset essentially, And he got a couple jobs

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the big game companies in Sweden, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was working at one of them, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was King dot com when he was inspired to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of create his own game. And he was playing a

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<v Speaker 1>game called Infinna Minor, Right am I saying that? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Infinity Minor but without the tea part. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And essentially you mine resources and you build stuff with

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<v Speaker 1>these blocks that you mine. It's a mining game essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds very familiar, and he's not like shy about saying

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<v Speaker 1>like this was a copy, a spoof basically of Infinom Minor,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was also inspired by some other games, like

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<v Speaker 1>one called Dwarf Fortress, which is really simple, but the

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<v Speaker 1>all of the characters involved in all of the non

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<v Speaker 1>player characters kind of have their own drive and decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of random stuff can happen in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also roller coaster Tycoon, where you could just

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<v Speaker 1>build your own well roller coasters. So if you put

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<v Speaker 1>all those three things together, you have kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>rough outlines of Minecraft, which he really started releasing I

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<v Speaker 1>think in two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I you know, I went down a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>second rabbit hole of because once I looked up in

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<v Speaker 2>Phenomnor and I was like, wait a minute, did he

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<v Speaker 2>just like literally kind of steal that game? And that

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<v Speaker 2>is a rabbit hole that I was loath to go

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<v Speaker 2>down because I found myself on Reddit and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like it's very contentious of people who are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he totally stole that game and ripped it off, and

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<v Speaker 2>people are like, no, he didn't. He was inspired by

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not wading into that argument. Probably you can

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<v Speaker 2>make up your own mind about that, right, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, However, however it came out, he released it in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine and people just dug on it

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<v Speaker 1>very very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the alpha version. Yeah, the beta

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<v Speaker 2>version main release.

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<v Speaker 1>No the and he was like, he just put the

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<v Speaker 1>word out there, and I think he actually started charging

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<v Speaker 1>people thirteen dollars for just to play the alpha version.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was also getting offs of feedback and like

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<v Speaker 1>blogging about it and everything. The whole thing was his

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<v Speaker 1>side gig, and but little by little it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>moved his main gig, like alf to the side itself,

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<v Speaker 1>and then until it was like I can actually support

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<v Speaker 1>myself with Minecraft. I'm quitting my day job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which finally in twenty ten, he founded the company

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<v Speaker 2>Swedish for gadget. It's Mojang moj Ang almost a g

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<v Speaker 2>with a couple of coworkers name And here's where I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know whether to say Jacob or Yakub.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not Yakub or Jacob is Jacob.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Papioma.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it really is Jacob. What was wrong with Pepioma?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't read that email closely enough.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Papaloma. Oh, and I knew that, and I heard

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<v Speaker 2>you saying it. But I was just like, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you know something I don't know because that was such

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<v Speaker 2>a wild stab. I just figured you were ahead of me.

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<v Speaker 1>You just found it so enchanting anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>You said it is yakub I forgot already h JOCKI, Jacob,

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob Porcer and Karl MANA M A N N e H.

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<v Speaker 2>They hired some people, they had a gaming company all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, and the beta version came out not

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<v Speaker 2>too long after, and they went over a six month

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<v Speaker 2>period at the beginning of twenty eleven to July of

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<v Speaker 2>that year. They went from a million players to ten

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<v Speaker 2>million in that short time. I'm officially launching in November

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven at mine Con, which was it's still an

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing event. I think they do it online now, but

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<v Speaker 2>for a while it was a live event in Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>called Minecraft Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think they held the twenty fifteen one in

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<v Speaker 1>London and it set the record for the largest attendance

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<v Speaker 1>of any convention in the history of humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's big stuff, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's huge. I mean, it is enormous. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>any statistics on what percentage of the world plays it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did see that at any point in time

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<v Speaker 1>there's as many as like thirty forty fifty million people

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<v Speaker 1>playing it at the same time, not necessarily altogether, because

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<v Speaker 1>as we'll see there's different ways to play it by

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or with other people. But if you just were

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<v Speaker 1>able to zoom out and look at what everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the world's doing, thirty million of them would be playing

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<v Speaker 1>Minecraft at that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy. So starting in twenty eleven, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>man named or and still is name Yen's Jeb Bergenston

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<v Speaker 2>as lead designer. Watched a few interviews with this guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely YenS, but it's also Jeb and not Yeb.

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<v Speaker 2>It's getting very confusing. Notch stayed on on the Minecraft team,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, it was basically sort of letting YenS

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<v Speaker 2>run the show. It seems like as far as being

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<v Speaker 2>in the weeds he was developing other games, Notch was

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, kind of live in the high life

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<v Speaker 2>because he got very wealthy, very quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One of the first things he did was by

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<v Speaker 1>himself a Fedora, which became kind of like a trademark

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<v Speaker 1>look for him. Sure, and he started just basically join

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<v Speaker 1>the international party set. It was like, how much how

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<v Speaker 1>much money does it cost to get in here? They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got you've got enough, come on in, so well

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<v Speaker 1>it exactly right. So he kind of got I got

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<v Speaker 1>the impression that he was not just distracted by this

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<v Speaker 1>newfound wealth and all the stuff you could do with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that he was not really interested in seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>game like becoming a massive, globally dominating blockbuster and all

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<v Speaker 1>the work that takes and coordination and all that. He

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<v Speaker 1>was more interested in developing games. So he stepped away,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, and handed it over to Jeb. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when Microsoft came a call in twenty fourteen, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>not tweeted, who does anybody want to buy my share

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<v Speaker 1>of Mojang because I'm ready to move on with my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently like all these companies were like, uh yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>totally will supposedly set up that Microsoft deal for two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half billion, and at that point he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm completely gone now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Forbes had him as of like last week at

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<v Speaker 2>about a one point two billion dollar net worth, and

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<v Speaker 2>that seems pretty reliable, not like the stupid Sealle network rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Not too shabby for somebody who wears a fedora in public.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and he you know, he stayed sort of

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<v Speaker 2>associated with the game in the company for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time even after the Microsoft purchase, well not that long

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<v Speaker 2>about five years ish when they basically stopped referencing him

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<v Speaker 2>on the loading page in twenty nineteen, stopped inviting him

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<v Speaker 2>to their Minecraft parties, like their tenth anniversary anniversary celebration. Yeah, basically,

0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:39.520
<v Speaker 2>he started letting everyone know his thoughts about QAnon and

0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:45.360
<v Speaker 2>far right wing politics and homophobic things and transphobic things

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<v Speaker 2>and sexist and misogynist things. It was sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest hits of that kind of guy. And he went

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<v Speaker 2>public with all of it and issued some pretty lame

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<v Speaker 2>apologies for some of it. But yeah, so that's what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Minecraft just kept going on without him, And

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<v Speaker 1>from what I can tell, like when Jeb took over,

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<v Speaker 1>is he still the lead game designer, like essentially the showrunner.

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<v Speaker 2>From But I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it, even if he stopped, like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, that game really flourished under his oversight. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he he's really creative. Also, really, and I think Natch

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<v Speaker 1>was willing to do this too, but Jeb was or

0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.760
<v Speaker 1>is really willing to be. Like, Hey, some player, some

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<v Speaker 1>random person somewhere came up with this amazing invention we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to actually release it as an update or add

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<v Speaker 1>on or something to the game like there, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's a really creative, flourishing game still because of

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<v Speaker 1>that guy, from what I can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. So there are three modes, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the regular unmoded version, because as you'll learn, you can

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<v Speaker 2>modify it in all kinds of you know, creative kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ways or vanilla mode. But if you're playing just

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<v Speaker 2>that regular version that my daughter plays on the PlayStation,

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<v Speaker 2>you can play in survival mode, hardcore mode, or creative mode.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So survival mode is like the kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the where the game part comes in, Like you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually die. So you're doing all of the interesting stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you do in Minecraft that will you know, talk

0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:33.080
<v Speaker 1>about more extensively. But there's zombies attacking you, or there's

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<v Speaker 1>creepers coming up and blowing themselves up and hurting you,

0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:40.040
<v Speaker 1>or you can drown underwater, fall off a cliff, and

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<v Speaker 1>when that happens, all of the stuff that you've gathered

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<v Speaker 1>that make up what's called your inventory, all the things

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<v Speaker 1>you can use to make other stuff, all the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you've made out of other things already that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to use to like extend your life or jump high

0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You lose all that it actually stays in

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<v Speaker 1>the location that you died at in Minecraft World, and

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<v Speaker 1>but you are teleported back to either where you started

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<v Speaker 1>the game or your bed if you've made yourself a bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw that if you can get there within

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<v Speaker 1>five like our reality minutes five minutes in our reality,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go pick up your stuff again, but it

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<v Speaker 1>can be very hard to do if you're really far

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<v Speaker 1>away from your bed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And what happens is you start basically with nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a parent, you've wandered through and it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like what is that blocky pixelated thing like punching everything

0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.280
<v Speaker 2>for that's the gameplay. You start with nothing, and you

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<v Speaker 2>basically go at the very beginning and you punch a

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<v Speaker 2>tree to get some wood. And what you're doing is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're getting resources to build stuff, so you

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<v Speaker 2>just keep punching and diggings things and finding new things

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<v Speaker 2>and then and transforming them into i mean all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things from you know, farms to animals to buildings

0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and oceans and rivers, and you know you're building, you're

0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.440
<v Speaker 2>literally building your world as you go in all the modes.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I can tell you, got hardcore mode is next.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you die, like the game is over, which

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of a bummer.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah, because I mean, like, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>really far and develop a lot of stuff. So when

0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you're walking around like punching stuff, like punching a tree,

0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you're punching a tree to get wood. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>collect some wood, you can actually turn it into say, lumber,

0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and if you combine that lumber with something else you've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten I don't remember why, I think wool from a sheep. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>put it together. You build yourself a bed. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first things you're supposed to do it. You're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to build a shelter and make a bed in your shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why you want to make a bed

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<v Speaker 1>is because if you die in survival mode, you basically

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<v Speaker 1>it's called respawning. You wake up, you're teleported back in

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<v Speaker 1>your bed to start over. The problem is all that

0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you've accumulated, all the lumber and all the wool,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the things that you can make. By combining

0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 1>those things, they make up what's called your inventory. And

0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.160
<v Speaker 1>your inventory can get pretty extensive. The longer you stay

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<v Speaker 1>alive and play and do stuff in the in the

0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Minecraft world, and you lose all that stuff, it's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually physically in the Minecraft world where you died,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you could make it over there in time

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<v Speaker 1>after you respawn, you could pick that stuff up. But

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<v Speaker 1>it can be really hard if you're really far away.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with hard core mode, like all that's just

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<v Speaker 1>gone forever, you have to start the game over completely.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that I know that that's true is

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<v Speaker 1>because Ruby answered that question.

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<v Speaker 2>That was actually the funniest answer, because you said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you die in hardcore mode, is like, is that

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<v Speaker 2>it is everything gone that you've ever built? And she said, yeah,

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.359
<v Speaker 2>it's hardcore Josh. She doesn't play that mode, though she

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<v Speaker 2>plays the third mode almost exclusively. I think when she plays,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Creative Mode. And this is the super cute

0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.720
<v Speaker 2>fun one that when you see your you know, seven

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, your old daughter playing, you're like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest game ever. Because I sat down with her

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<v Speaker 2>one day and watched and she's just like, oh, look,

0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.919
<v Speaker 2>this is my farm, and this is my garden, and

0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 2>these are my sheep, this is my animal pin and

0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.359
<v Speaker 2>this is my house, and look, I've got a pool

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<v Speaker 2>on the top floor and I've got a deck and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just really creative and super sweet and fun. You

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<v Speaker 2>can fly and creative mode, like if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>get up to the top of your thing, you can

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<v Speaker 2>fly up there. And the best thing is you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be harmed. There's no zombie coming to kill you. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just do fun stuff like you said farm,

0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's not like, oh, I built a farm and

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<v Speaker 1>now this farm's running. Like you build the farm and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to operate the farm to keep it going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's just amazing and neat all the stuff

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that you can do in this game. It's just crazy.

0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk about some of the just the mind

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<v Speaker 1>boggling stuff that people make. But one of the cool

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<v Speaker 1>things about it is you can build this world by yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can work with others, play with others people

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<v Speaker 1>in your house using a local area network, or there's

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<v Speaker 1>Minecraft servers to where you're building a world together, and

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.719
<v Speaker 1>like other people can come in and walk around your

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<v Speaker 1>world and hang out with you and sometimes mess with

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you in your world too, because it's a giant shared world.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas there's also another version which I ticket Ruby was playing,

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<v Speaker 1>where that is like that's your world. Nobody else can

0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 1>come in because it's just on that one computer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not being shared with the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we just didn't know enough about it and

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<v Speaker 2>said that's the only version you can play, because the

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<v Speaker 2>last thing I wanted was some you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to meeting those people. So I'm sure

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of fun that can be had on

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<v Speaker 2>those you know, multiplayer private server games. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 2>great in most ways. There are some very cool versions

0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 2>of that. There's one called Pixel Mindcraft where they have

0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 2>recreated the gameplay of Pokemon within the Minecraft world, which

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<v Speaker 2>is super cool. Yeah, and some of these are like

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<v Speaker 2>full on companies. Olivia found this boy, God blessed Livia

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.880
<v Speaker 2>for the breadth of things that she helps us with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, it's like, how about philosophy and then Minecraft.

0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.800
<v Speaker 2>But there's one called high Pixel, which has like forty

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<v Speaker 2>developers on staff and got bought themselves by Riot Games,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big companies in twenty twenty. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these are all just modifying this game that was so

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<v Speaker 2>popular already. It's really, really kind of nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say a cottage industry has grown up

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<v Speaker 1>around it. About like fifty different cottage industries have grown

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<v Speaker 1>up around it, with a bunch of different companies in

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<v Speaker 1>each that high pixel. To give you an example, they

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<v Speaker 1>make like games you can play in the Minecraft world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like there's one called Skyblock where you start out

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<v Speaker 1>on just a little patch of ground floating in the

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<v Speaker 1>sky with a single tree and a couple of resources,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to build your way out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to expand it with way more limited resources

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<v Speaker 1>than you would get normally. There's a one called bed Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>where your point is to like destroy your friend's bed

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>so that they can't they can't respawn in their bed again.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to go back to where they started the game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun stuff, but that's on their server and they

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<v Speaker 1>they modified Minecraft, and the makers of Minecraft mojang don't

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 1>sue those people because you put it all together and

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<v Speaker 1>it's this it's almost like the Wikipedia of games, where

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<v Speaker 1>the entire world has collaborated on making this amazing game

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that is Minecraft.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if because he so heavily borrowed let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>from Infinity Minor or infinite minor. He was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll just sit back and be super wealthy and

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 2>not worry about these people that are doing this stuff. Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the mind boggling thing is now Microsoft owns

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it and they don't sue other yeah created points. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nuts. There's some them we're going on here. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's take a break and we'll be

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 2>right back to talk about who the heck is playing

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 2>this game and more about the world right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of video games where you pay

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 2>monthly subscription fees. Sometimes you'll like buy the game but

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<v Speaker 2>then also subscribe monthly to get extra stuff or whatever,

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 2>new editions of the game, things like that. But Minecraft

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 2>has always been pretty great in that you buy the

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 2>game and that's it. You own the game. The game

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.639
<v Speaker 2>is updated for free, the updates just roll out. A

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of games do that as well. It's not the

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 2>only one, but it was sort of the core business model,

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 2>which is you buy this game, and whether it's a

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 2>PC or PlayStation or whatever, and that's your game for forever.

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 2>You've got that Minecraft game, and kids can grow into

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 2>adulthood like playing the same game that you, you know, insert

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the disc into the player.

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, So there are other there's like in game purchases

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and add ons and stuff you can buy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the big hubbub that I picked up on is that

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<v Speaker 1>a SpongeBob bikini bottom biome is coming along, I think

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>in August, so you can play it by Bob and yeah,

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's gonna be pretty cool. There's other

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>like things called textures, which take this the very standard

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>like recognizable Minecraft look and do all sorts of things

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>to it. Some make it way smoother, some add different

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>kinds of shading. There's one called pastel that changes the

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>color palette and makes it much pinker and happier. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just a ton of stuff you can get. An add

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>on that like is you're it's a mansion, Like you

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have to build yourself. It's just now you can

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>buy a mansion rather than build. It seems counterintuited over

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.239
<v Speaker 1>counter against the point, I guess, but I'm sure some

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>kids are like, I just want to buy the mansion

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>in Farm instead. I don't want to waste my time

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>building my mansion. You're rabbit holing, sorry, but yes, my

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>point is there are stuff you can buy. But a

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of that stuff is free too, a lot of

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the mods are free.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to get great statistics on who's

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 2>playing it, but Livia did found a survey from Jeez,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 2>like seven years ago from Australia where fifth and you know,

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I bet it's pretty indicative of who's playing worldwide. Fifty

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>four percent of boys ages three to twelve were playing it,

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>thirty two percent of girls.

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>All of them raised on Foster's Beer.

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>And early on it started out is more sort of

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>young adult men or older teenagers, but it has since

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 2>crept down in age, and I'm sure you know people

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>of all a just still play it. But you know,

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a game that a four year old can kind

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 2>of start playing if they're good with their fingies. There

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 2>are two different default players from the early years. Steve

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Well he was the only default player in the early years,

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 2>and then in twenty fourteen they added Alex. They added

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 2>a man and a woman, and then they rolled out

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>seven more in twenty twenty two with different outfits and

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>different skin tones. But you can skin your character. You

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.479
<v Speaker 2>can create the stuff yourself, and I believe you can

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>probably buy stuff and get skins that other people have

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>created to make your player look more like you want

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 2>them to look.

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'd be more like you. Even Like there's clowns,

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Japanese demons, scarecrows, there's a lot of cool skins out there.

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>For sure.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 2>You just stopped yourself. Yes, it hiss on that list,

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 2>So I guess we should talk about the fact that

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and this is another really cool part of it. When

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you start out, you know, I said, you start out

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>like and you just punch that tree. You start out

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>with one chunk of landscape that is a sixteen by

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 2>sixteen block square block, And once you reach those edges,

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>you start creating. Like you build as you go, and

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 2>it's procedurally generated as you go. And eventually if you're

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>asking like, is there even a limit? Yes, sixty million

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>blocks per side, which is seven times larger than the

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Earth's surface.

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you consider a block a square kilometer of Earth,

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.719
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's about half the size of Neptune and

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>twice the size of Earth. Isn't that nuts? Yeah, that's

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>just one world. So I read this amazing post by

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Alan Zuconi called the World Generation of Minecraft.

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to just dance just along the top of it.

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>But if you're at all interested in how the actual

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>world is generated, and it's quite fascinating and go read that.

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>But essentially, what they start with is what's called a seed.

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>It's sixty four bits of information, right, which is nothing

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that's so small, but just following a couple of algorithmic rules,

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the whole world generates from there. And because these sixty

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>four bits are slightly different in each seed, there's something

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>like eighteen point four quintillion possible worlds that can develop

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>from a seed. That's how many seeds are possible.

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Out there, right, Well, tell them what a seed is.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>So a seed is that sixty four bits that create

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the world. And when you have a game like Ruby's game,

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>where she bought that game, she bought a seed. So

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>if she bought it, okay, her dad bought it for

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and so if she started over when she started the game,

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>every time, that same world is gonna be built because

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it's the same information following the same rules. So it's

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna build the same world. But if she went and

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>bought another one, they'll see that it grew from would

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>create a totally different world. And it follows these really

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>simple rules like if the temperature is this, and the

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>altitude is this. This is the biome it's going to create,

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>like a desert or a tundra or a forest or

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>something like that. And so if you've created a forest

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>biome now in this spot, that means it's gonna have

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.719
<v Speaker 1>trees and certain kinds of animals running around. If it's underwater,

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>what's the water temperature? And depending on the water temperature,

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.959
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be different animals in that biome too. And

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just following like if then rules that create a

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>world from sixty four bits. It's nuts what they've done.

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing about it, too, is people play

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>this so much that they'll actually go out and buy

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>another copy because they know that world so well.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine, Uh, can't you just start over?

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>You can't. But it's going to be the same world,

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I mean as a different character or something.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, you could start over, but you're going

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to be exploring the same world that you did. You

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>know before, you could buy another copy, and it's going

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to be a totally different world.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought if you started over as a new

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like if I logged in as me in her game.

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I could just start as whatever I wanted.

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>No, because it's the same seed. Yeah, you could be

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a different character, skin in or whatever, but.

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>The mean the world start from scratch.

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the world will still be the same because it's

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>growing from the same seed. I should probably caveat this

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that this is Alan Ducony talking. I'm just I'm dis

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>amplifying what he's saying.

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about those biomes. There are sixty four

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>biome types, fifty three in the over World, which is

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>where you know, that's sort of the main gameplay area,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and then they have a couple of other areas, the Nether,

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>which was added in twenty ten, which is pretty scary

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:07.719
<v Speaker 2>like hellish place, and then the End, which is that

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>was in twenty eleven. That's a very very dark, very

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 2>bleak place, a very bleak landscape.

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of metroidy.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can actually win that game if you defeat

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the Ender Dragon. But I believe there are fifty three

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>biomes in the Overworld, five in the Nether, five in

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the End, and then one that I didn't completely understand,

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not even going to get into it, but

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.959
<v Speaker 2>it gets really really detailed. Like you said, you know,

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>if you go to the ocean and the water temperature

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 2>to this, like there are nine oceans you can do

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>like warm water ocean, frozen ocean, cold water ocean. It

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>just and you know the different forests you can drill

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>down very very specifically within those sixty four biomes, which

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>is like only lens to the creativity. I think kids

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>can just not only are they like being creative, but

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 2>they're they're learning something about these biomes for sure, you know,

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe not the most detailed stuff, but they know that, hey,

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>in this kind of biome, these are the plants and

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>trees that you'll have.

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, there's kids walking around that are like, yeah, if

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you go under the ocean, you'll find abandoned cities that

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the ancient builders created. That's what they're learning, Chuck.

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Mobile entities is another thing, or mobs. These are like

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>the animals and the monsters and stuff. When they're killed,

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>they can drop things that you can pick up. Sometimes

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 2>you can tame them. They if you get updates, these

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>mobs expand. I think they're more than seventy five now.

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 2>But the things I've seen walking through the room are

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like sheep and pigs and things like that. Those were

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the first animals kind of created that you can use

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>that you can you know, get wool from them. If

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 2>you want to make that bed, you're going to have

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>to get that wool from that sheep.

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Right. So, and you talked about different biomes having different animals,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and one of the reasons to go to the biomes

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>is not just to explore new cool things, but you

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>can get different things out of different mobs. Right. So,

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>if you went to a warm water ocean, you would

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>find pufferfish. And if you get a pufferfish and you

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>combine it with something else I don't remember, you can

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>create a potion that will let you breathe underwater, so

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you can walk around and explore underwater. So everything that

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you encounter that's a mob, which is essentially another term

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>for a non player character. You can get something from

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and you can combine it with other stuff that you

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>got from other mobs, or from punching a tree, or

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>from digging up or with your pickaxe to create new

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>things to do new stuff with. That's what people are

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>doing when they're playing Minecraft.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 2>One of the other things that you can find, or zombies,

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>is very big part of the game. They are kind

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>of like most zombies are pretty easy to take care

0:33:55.320 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of and defeat. They're different variations of zombies. Creepers are

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of a fun mob because creepers are a mistake.

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I believe that. What's the guy's name again, Marcus Person. Yeah,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>he was trying to make a pig, but he coded

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>it wrong and it stretched out tall instead of wide,

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and he thought it looked creepy. He liked it, and

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 2>so creepers became a very sort of popular monster in

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>the game because he just said, I love that mistake,

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's leave it.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>And they're considered hostile mops, right because they'll attack you. Yeah, yeah,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and they do that by blowing up I think we

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>said earlier.

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>There's also something called ender Men, which is kind of

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a play on slender Man, and there are these creepy

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>entities that may or may not attack you, depending on

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>whether you look at.

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Him or not.

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>So there's like there's definitely gameplay to this, right, Like

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>there's like you can go off and like defeat these

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>things and fight them and protect villages and stuff like that.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>But there's also like you can also just farm and

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 1>once in a while you have to defend your farm

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>against some zombies. Or something.

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll also come up on villagers and villages where

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>they live. And these you know look like they don't

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>look like they look like humans, I guess or their

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>version of humans, right, And you can get things from them.

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>You can trade with them. They have different jobs. You

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>can change their job if you want to. If you

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>need like food or something, you can make them unemployed

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 2>by destroying their job and then giving them a new job.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Then all of a sudden, you got somebody giving you food.

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, And you like, it's just crazy that like

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>people have village farms essentially where they're breeding villagers to

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>make them stuff that they want. It can get really

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>really complicated really fast. But in the most basic version,

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 1>you're just you know, trading with the villagers given them.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>You go get emeralds and you come bring them to

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the villagers and they give you food or wool or

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>something like that.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, you learn where to look for

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>different things that you need. Like if you want coal,

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you know you can dig down not too deep bleef

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>or coal. If you want this thing called red, or

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 2>if you want like diamonds, you got a deep dig

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>really really deep to find the diamonds. Just like the

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>real world. And then Lyvia pointed out this thing called Redstone,

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 2>which was I believe it was an update to the alpha.

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's been around basically from the beginning. But it

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 2>has a lot of different kinds of functions, but it

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>mainly functions like electrical wires. You can build and automate things.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes things go, powers them right, like everything

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>from pistons to doors opening to whatever. People make crazy

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>machines using Redstone. There's a kid who made a functioning

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>calculator by arranging Redstone and other items in a certain way.

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>He made a calculator in Minecraft, and it's kind of

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>one of those things you have to see to really

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>understand how crazy that is. But that's really it's neat.

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be. I don't know how well the

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>game would work at all if there wasn't such a

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>thing as Redstone, or if you know, you could just

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>make things work just by pressing them right, then having

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to go mine Redstone and using it to make the

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>specific thing work the specific way.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>That's how you know.

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>That's how detailed it involved. It is because of choices

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like that and the development totally.

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Should we take our second break sure. All right, we'll

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 2>take that break and we'll talk about how this is

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 2>sort of taken over YouTube as well.

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Right for this, Okay, Chuck, So you mentioned YouTube and

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>that is basically the official outlet for Minecraft. That's where

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Minecraft pours out into the rest of the world.

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, we'll go over some of the ways

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>YouTube is utilized. It's very very I mean, YouTube is

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 2>full full full of Minecraft stuff. But one of the

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>things that sort of alarmed me and kind of disappointed

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 2>me with this and roadblocks is that kids will just

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:18.240
<v Speaker 2>sit around watching people play this game on YouTube sometime

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like to learn how to do things. But with

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Ruby and her friends, I will see them just sitting

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>around and watching it instead of playing it. And I'm

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 2>always like, as a parent, like, oh god, can you

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, can you play the game and like get

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>involved and you know, but try to pick my battles

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and just limit it. You know.

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, they've really turned things around on their head. If

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you're like, man, can you please play the video game?

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>It?

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Can you go outside? Now? It's like, can you play

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the video game rather than watch other people play?

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>That's how far we've slipped I get it though, It's like,

0:38:53.880 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>essentially she's watching an unscripted TV show money like that,

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and there are people that do that. There's something called

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Survival multiplayer Channels. There's one called dream SMP. I think

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>they disbanded, but essentially they had loosely scripted story arcs

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that they acted out in Minecraft world as like kind

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of fictionalized versions of themselves like our stuff you should

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 1>know TV show, and there were just plots that took place,

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and people would watch YouTube videos of these essentially shows

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>created in Minecraft.

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a one guy named Pewdiepi p E W

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 2>d I E p i E. It's got one hundred

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and eleven million subs and is a very very very

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 2>wealthy man.

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was one of the first like genuine YouTube stars.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he was as big as it got for

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a while and.

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Then for him, I'm not knocking it, by the way, he.

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Was toppled by an i think a Bollywood record label.

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>There was a competition a four year old from Taiwan,

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>right exactly who opened Minecraft lego gift sets. Yeah, but yeah,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>so PewDiePie got very very wealthy just essentially from starting

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 1>out from playing Minecraft videos and you said people watch

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>people playing Minecraft, Phil watch speed runs, see how fast

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>they can go. There's parody music videos set in the

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Minecraft world. Like I think it's one of those things

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 1>where like you can't get enough Minecraft once it gets

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>under your skin to where if you're like I don't

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.919
<v Speaker 1>feel like playing today, I'm going to watch somebody else

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>play and that will satisfy that inch.

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what now that I've said that,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 2>save your emails everyone, because yes, at home, I used

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.919
<v Speaker 2>to sit around and watch my friends play Adventure when

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 2>they played and it was their turn, And I would

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 2>hover over the shoulders of my friends at arcades and

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 2>watch them play the games. So we did the exact

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 2>same thing, and I take it all back.

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's a little different because you're sitting there

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>like willing your friend to hurry up and die so

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>it can be your you.

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Know, that's it's a little different.

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're you're up next, that's the reason. And what

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>else are you gonna do? You know, you're on your

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>eighth Orange Julius. You're not gonna go get another one

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of those, so you might as well stand around and watch.

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and your quarter sitting there flat on the on

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 2>the screen of the arcade game.

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 1>So you're definitely next.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, those were the days.

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>What else you want to talk about the Lord at

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>all or move on?

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yeah, well, I mean I think it's kind of

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 2>cool in that if you have a world like this,

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna you're gonna get some stuff like fan fiction.

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Even though technically Alex and Steve are sort of until

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 2>they release, the other ones were the only two kind

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>of characters. So it's you know, it's a little weird

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 2>to have fan fiction about these two blocky people that

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>really have did you know nothing about personality wise? Sure,

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the point of fan fiction. They've also

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>come up with this stuff, this sort of like fan fiction,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, where you talked about the ancient Builders, Like

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.280
<v Speaker 2>they've created this backstory sort of of the ancient ones

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>who who created the original structures in the game, and

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>like where did they come from? So like the creativity

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>is really off the charts, you know.

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's yeah, Yeah, that's the thing about it is

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll see, like one of the big benefits of it

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>for kids but also for anybody is it it really

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>gets your imagination and creativity going along with some other

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>stuff too.

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:19.280
<v Speaker 2>What about Hero Brian.

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Herobrian is a legendary character from what I saw, Notch

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>said unequivocally that Herobrien doesn't exist.

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>In Minecraft World, there was a four cham post from

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>years back where somebody claimed to have encountered Steve, but

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it was Steve with all white eyes, and he was

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>a weirdo doing weird stuff following him around the Minecraft world,

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and that became the legend of Herobrien, this character that

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>supposedly is the ghost of Nach's dead brother, right, not

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>just like I don't even have a brother, I have

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a half brother I've never met. So no, there's no Herobrien.

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Sorry to bust that bubble.

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I believe, like in mods and things, people

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>have created that kind of stuff, but in the official

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Minecraft game there never has been one, even though people

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 2>swear that they've come across exactly.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So there's a lot of ways that you can

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>modify Minecraft yourself. Again, one of the cottage industries is

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>creating editors to let Minecraft players modify the game to

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>their own specifications, to let them do things like, you know,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>jump really high and survival mode or fly or whatever

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you want to do. But one of the things that

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>people have done is build stuff with or without modifications,

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and the less you modify, the more impressive your build is.

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>It's what they're called their builds. For example, one kid

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>named Atmospheric Beats.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>This is incredible.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Who may or may not be Travis Hicks. I found

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube video and a Reddit post. I can't imagine.

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>There's too many people running around making one to one

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>scale models of Kansas City in Minecraft. Either way, there

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>is a one to one scale model of Kansas City,

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>every building, every tree, every street, and you can go

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>inside every building. It's just completely true to life in Minecraft.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Somebody built that.

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I want that for Atlanta because I would have fun

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 2>running around there.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a whole group called Build the Earth where

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 1>people around the world are creating like faithful to life. Yeah,

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>creations of buildings. The point is to recreate every building

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>on Earth. So you can do that.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe will one day. It gets even cooler if

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 2>you're like, all right, Kansas City one to one scale

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 2>model not bad. Scale model of the entire Earth not

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty impressive. There's an eighteen year old This is a

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, so I guess he's twenty ish

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 2>now a YouTuber named Christopher Slayton. I think his real

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 2>name is Chris Decal. Yet probably the other way. I

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 2>thought Slayton was the made up thing, not Decal Slayton.

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>If it was like slay Tour, maybe.

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had that reverse. But he made a model

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 2>of the observable universe.

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Did you see the video of this, of the explanation. Yeah,

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like he was like, oh, I'm gonna draw

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>this in Minecraft. The kid did the physics required to

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>create the models of the universe. I mean, like everything

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>from like nebula galaxies to the Sun, Like you can

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>zoom into pixels on the Sun. It's just one of

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the most impressive things I've ever seen in my entire life.

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Would that be a photon?

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess so. It'd be a one kilometer square photon.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 2>If all that wasn't cool enough. In twenty twenty, the

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 2>group Reporters Without Borders started a project called Uncensored Library.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 2>And this this is amazing. In places like Saudi Arabia

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and Russia where the real news is like censored or

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't have access to these news sites, they are

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:10.959
<v Speaker 2>burying news inside the Minecraft world. Because you can play

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Minecraft there.

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they write books or they create books that have

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 1>these articles in them.

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:18.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's cool, unbelievably cool.

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.879
<v Speaker 1>There's another thing too. I mentioned a kid who made

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a calculator. You can arrange these Redstone like or basically

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and make things into logic gates on off if then

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff and if you make if you

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>arrange different logic gates together, you can create computers. And

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.879
<v Speaker 1>there was somebody who created a computer that plays Minecraft

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>in Minecraft. Like you go on to Minecraft, go over

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to that computer and play Minecraft on that computer that

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>exists only in Minecraft. I just want to make sure

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.760
<v Speaker 1>it's totally clear what I'm saying here, and it actually works.

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.839
<v Speaker 1>It's not some it's not a drawing. It's like it's

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>operating on logic gates that they created with arrangements of

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Redstone or incredible. So let's talk about this because I

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty clear Chuck, that there are a lot

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>of benefits to playing this, Like, yes, it would be

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>really easy for a kid to become addicted, and that

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>really can happen, and I've seen that that actually is

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>an actual thing and you have to look out for it.

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>But there's also some real benefits to this, to playing this,

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:23.800
<v Speaker 1>especially as a kid.

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know, if you're a parent, keep

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 2>an eye on your kid. Monitor there there how long

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 2>they're playing this game. Because it is great, and we're

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about the benefits for sure, but like if

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to do anything but Minecraft, and if

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 2>it seems like they're never satisfied with the amount that

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they're playing and they're lying about their playing, and if

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>they don't have it, they're you know, experiencing you know,

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the withdrawal symptoms of anything else, and they're grumpy and

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 2>irritated or depressed. Like, seriously, get involved because it's a

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>real danger. The benefits, you know, been talking about how

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>creative it is. It's not only is it going to

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.799
<v Speaker 2>encourage you to just use your creative brain, but you're

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>problem solving, you're using math, you're working with other people

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 2>like teamwork, potentially learning to code. Like there, this is

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the one game I believe. I asked Hodgman because I

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 2>knew his son played, and I was like, Hey, is

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>this Minecraft thing? And he was like, that's kind of

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the one game that it's it's okay for kids to

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 2>start playing because it's got like plenty of good benefits.

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and even more esoteric stuff that like managing resources.

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like the kids like, oh, I'm learning

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to manage resources is great just by virtue of playing Minecraft.

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>You have to learn to manage resources. You have to

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>keep up with your sheep and make sure that they're

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 1>breeding so that you can get enough wool, like like

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you have to know what to use, where, where to

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>go get it, and then how to use it smartly

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>so that you can get the most out of it.

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a huge part of playing Minecraft, and that's

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a great thing to learn. It also teaches kids to

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>like focus on a you know, well you want to

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 1>raise some sheep. I know, I keep going to that. Well,

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's a good one. Yeah, you have to go

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to farm the food to feed the sheep,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to shear the sheep to get

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<v Speaker 1>the wool, and then you use the wool that do

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<v Speaker 1>god knows what with And you have a goal and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just that one goal. That goal is made

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<v Speaker 1>up of a series of sub goals too, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great thing to learn early on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know your kids aren't coming to you

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<v Speaker 2>and asking you how to do it unless you happen

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<v Speaker 2>to be a parent that really knew Minecraft, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you know that exists now, it's been around long enough.

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<v Speaker 2>But generally, like your kid's probably in the other room

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<v Speaker 2>figuring this stuff out. Maybe they're asking friends for help.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're not. They're learning as they go and making

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<v Speaker 2>like what they think are like smart decisions to do

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<v Speaker 2>better in the game and real time. My advice to

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<v Speaker 2>a parent is like, it's really easy just to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of walk by anytime your kid is doing this with

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<v Speaker 2>zero interest, but just maybe once or twice down and

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<v Speaker 2>ask them to tell you about their world for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like sit there with them while they played for

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen minutes and say show me your world. I

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<v Speaker 2>did that a couple of times, and it's incredible to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she was like five or six at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, to see a kid really like I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, and you figured out that, and you

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<v Speaker 2>figured out you needed to do that to get that

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<v Speaker 2>And to them, they're like, yeah, Dad, that's duh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the game. But I'm over here going like this is incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're learning, Like, keep at it. That's cool and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you stopped playing it.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, I feel like we would be

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<v Speaker 1>grossly reversed if we didn't give a shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>our little friend from the Medford Show. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>who requested this. I don't remember his name, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very sorry for that. But there was a kid, a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a young dude at the Medford Show recently, I think

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<v Speaker 1>in May who during QA asked us to do an

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<v Speaker 1>episode on Minecraft. The whole thing started with him asking

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<v Speaker 1>us about mobs, and we're like, what is a mob?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it kind of kicked the whole thing off. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we're where we are right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And if you hear this kid and parent

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<v Speaker 2>and you want us to set the record straight and

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<v Speaker 2>get that name on the air, like email, listen, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>include that in a future correction for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of email, I think, Chuck, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>listening now.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, this is about salsa. We got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good salsa emails. People love salsa. I like to

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<v Speaker 2>say salsa, saying and eating. Boy that did you see

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<v Speaker 2>the one woman who's sent in the black salsa from

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<v Speaker 2>that restaurant in Chicago? No, I didn't see that it

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<v Speaker 2>looked good. I think it was the last couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days she posted a picture and it's like Charred Pepper's

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<v Speaker 2>basically nice boy, did it look good? Hey, guys, great

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<v Speaker 2>job on the recent episode on salsa. I was born

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<v Speaker 2>and raised in northwestern Mexico, being Mexican, I was very

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<v Speaker 2>interested on how you guys would tackle this. Josh got

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<v Speaker 2>it right about the fact that salsa is a condiment mostly,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did get it wrong that it is in

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<v Speaker 2>fact served at most restaurants in Mexico along with tortilla

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<v Speaker 2>chips called to topos or like the tostadas like Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned being broken apart. It is not an appetizer, nor

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 2>do you need to order it. It's just served. And

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<v Speaker 2>you can also use the salsa as a condiment with

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<v Speaker 2>your food. And I saw someone else wrote in a

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican woman that said a lot of times, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good way to test the salsa, to test taste tests

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the salsa or the different sauceas you get

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<v Speaker 2>to see which one you do want to use as.

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<v Speaker 1>A coe, which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, but the only thing that that was innovated in

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<v Speaker 2>the US was to charge for something that comes free

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<v Speaker 2>with your meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Mexico boo.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, also guys tortilla chips go back to the pre

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<v Speaker 2>Hispanic era with the Mexican word for tortilla chip again

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<v Speaker 2>to topo coming from a nahuato where meaning to toast

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<v Speaker 2>or brown, and finally for chuck. Pico degao Mexico's any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of mixed or chopped fruits and vegetables. Pico digao

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<v Speaker 2>that he referenced in the US is usually called salsa

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<v Speaker 2>fresca I don't know, I didn't say it, or salsa

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<v Speaker 2>bendero bendera meaning flag and the chilies, onion, and tomato

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<v Speaker 2>are green, white and red like the Mexican flag. Very nice,

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<v Speaker 2>great email. That's from Ricardo Lamas Vidales.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Ricardo. We appreciate that. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from a local expert. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be like Ricardo and set us straight on some stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>we would love to hear that. You can send it

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