1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Oh, a great time of my taskers times, time for time. 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Here we go Friday Afternoon, One Goes Live, presented by 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Kalinda Health. We're coming to the line from Orchard Park. 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Kind of a cloudy, misty Friday afternoon and op getting 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: a look at the inside of New Airfield. If you're 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: watching on the MSG network, we're inside. We're inside the 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Ampro Sports Training Center in the Senate castudio. I'm John Murphy. 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: This is Luke Tasker, that Steve Tasker. Steve is off 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: today and Monday. His son Luke joins us today. Luke, 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: good to be with you. Check my hand, buddy, John, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. It's great. You've done this before, 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: right when I was off last summer. That's right, and 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: I was I was in for you. Now I'm in 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: for Dad. It's great. And did you sit over there? 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: We're in that chair this I was okay? And how 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: was it he had to host that? Dad? How was 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: that experience? Really good? Yeah? We had good, good guests 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: that day like we have today. Um, it's exciting. Do 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: you ever watch our show, Luke? I know you're busy 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: playing Canadian I listened to it all the time. Yeah, 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: all the time all the time. We need that because 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: our audience I think tends would be a little thanks. Thanks, 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: good to have you here. We're gonna talk a lot 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: with Luke today about a variety of stuff including, uh, well, 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: let's start with where you're at right now. You're finished 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: another season in the CFL with a Hamilton time cats. 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: You're home here in East a RAA and you're getting 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: set for a big day in the next what a 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks here personally right, Yes, I have twin 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: boys on the way Oho, my second and third child 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: with my wife Jenna, second and third and son. We're 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: blessed with all boys. So yeah, we have some excitement 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: coming up this spring. Yeah, everybody's good, and that's gonna 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: be what in a month or so, you think, uh yeah, 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: you know, twins, It could could be any time, but 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: doing um late April. Yeah, we'll see it seems uh 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's telling us our life is going to 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: change drastically, and I, uh it did with one kid. 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I really can't imagine what it's gonna be like this 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: summer with three three kids under two and a half. 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: But we are excited. Who's do you have counsel from 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: parents of twins. You talk to parents of twins about 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: we do, you know, everyone's got their own story. And 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: actually we've had a you know, pregnancy can be complicated 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: with twins, but we have been reassured by a lot 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: of people who had had you know, all sorts of 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: adversity and then they've got healthy, healthy twins now and 48 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: heard a lot of happy and great stories and some 49 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: funny names with twins. I know one uh one um 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: twins set named bow and Arrow. So yeah, it will 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: be a lot more a lot more regular than that. 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I've found you. I have a thirteen year old twin girls, 53 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: nieces who live right around the corner from us. They 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with us. They're great. It's 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: such a great blessing. It's unbelievable. You will love it, 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: and I don't know, it'll be a little bit more work, 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: but you've already got the baby thing down. You've got 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: the boy baby thing down right ed two more, you know, 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: you're right, And I think, uh, you know, for my 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: for my wife, it's a it's a well, it's a 61 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: hard thing to pregnancy in general, but you kind of 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: get to two out of the way, out of the 63 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: way sounds right. So that's what's going on, and you 64 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: are back working this offseason from your Canadian Football League. 65 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: You had what seven years now in the CFL. Yeah, 66 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I played seven years with the tie Cats. Just finished, uh, 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: just finished a really great season. We went to the 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Great Cup for in this past year. Lost unfortunately, but 69 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: it was a good team and a good good season. 70 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: You had a variety of injuries last year, would you? 71 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: I did? I You know, it was actually my most 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: challenging year physically. I had a hamstring that I missed 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: some time for, an ac joint and elbow strain. So 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I had injuries that I missed time for and even 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: when I was playing, I was banged up. But um, 76 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: yeah I have It's my number one goal just to 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: get healthy again. Now what are you twenty eight from 78 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: twenty nine? Yeah? Yeah, so you get some productive years 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: ahead if you want to. Yeah, playing right, Yeah, if 80 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: I can get healthy, I I'll do that and I 81 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: feel good about it. Okay, Well, we're happy to have you. 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for filling out. You did. Your parents took off 83 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: for a little a long weekend, extended weekend. Chris Brown 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: will be here in places Steve on Monday, Lucas with 85 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: us year today. That's right, And we got a couple 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: of good guests coming up here coming up at one o'clock, 87 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Great Cosell from ESPN NFL Matchup. We'll talk about pass rushers, 88 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: edge rushers in this year's draft. Great Cosell now breaking 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: down the video on all of these prospects. And at 90 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: two o'clock, and this is because of you, Luke, we're 91 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: talking to a guy who's with the Canadian Football League, 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: Darren Heckwood, who is the director of officiating in the CFL. 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: He's going to join us and we're looking for ideas 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: what can make the NFL better. What are they do 95 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: in the CFL if some of you are aside from 96 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: three downs and you know, bigger field and the standard 97 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: CFL stuff, the CFL has had a different approach to 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: a replay review, right, and can you tell us how 99 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: does that work? Do you think it works in the 100 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Canadian football During my years up there, there was a 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: lot of change. It's something I want to ask him 102 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: about too, because it's not just what the rules are, 103 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: it's actually the amount of times that the rules have 104 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: changed throughout recent years. To me that to me, it's 105 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: increased the amount of adjustments that have been made, and 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: that has an effect too with coaches and players honestly 107 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: knowing what they're what they can and can't do on 108 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: the field. Um. Well, since I've been up there, there 109 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: was a year where replays were unlimited, and to be honest, 110 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: it got a little bit out of hand. Um And 111 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: so that's been regulated a little bit more now. But 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: what I do think is interesting is the uh is 113 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the no call challenge that's become a part of professional 114 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: football now and from an offensive aspect with past interference 115 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: that that I think that's an increase to the game 116 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: because it is such a frustrating part of football when 117 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: when a decision is made by referees that changed the 118 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: outcome of the game. And with you know, with the 119 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: way that our media is now, every fan sitting at 120 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: home could see can see the reality of it. And 121 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: so the ability the ability to to change that with 122 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: a with with challenges, I think is an increase to 123 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: the game. Increase it helps the game, I do think so. 124 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: I And again the one season I was up there 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: when this was getting started, when they led it to 126 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: be unlimited, we were having you know, seven eight challenges 127 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: a game. It makes that makes the game go four 128 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: hours and fifteen minutes, first of all, and it also, 129 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: uh it's sort of it sort of gives a little 130 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: bit of a sense of you know, unprofessionalism almost when 131 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: there's so much, so much you know, inconsistency in the 132 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: play calling and the challenging. Um. So it's about finding 133 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: that that fine line. But I think that also lends itself. 134 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: We'll see what what what our expert has to say here, 135 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: but uh, you know there were times last year where 136 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: we're kind of looking around like do we have a 137 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: time out right now? Like can we challenge this? I 138 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: don't even know if we have a challenge or if 139 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: this is a challengeable offense. So, uh, you know, it's 140 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: a fine line everyone has to find. So they've cut 141 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: back the number of times you can challenge by a replay, 142 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: and it's mostly past interference we're talking about it. Yeah, No, 143 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: there are other there are other challengeable offenses, but in reality, 144 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: it's such a passing league. Uh, the fields so spread apart. 145 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: A lot of the controversy comes with past interference, both 146 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: off both offensive and defensive, or I should say, but 147 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the challenge is both coming from both offense and defense. Um, 148 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: that's really where where a lot of the gray area 149 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: has been in the years. So when they first did it, 150 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: it was unrestrained and people use it, and then they've 151 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: cut back a little bit and how often they put 152 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: restrictions in how many times you can use challenge. What 153 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I found is that when it was when it was 154 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: unrestricted and it was just a you know, a free 155 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: for all with challenging it, honestly, it actually puts a 156 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: microscope at exposes how the human error in the game. 157 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Because when you can challenge anything you do, there's no 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: reason not to challenge it. And so you can see 159 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: you start to really especially when you're watching these games 160 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: on TV, you start to really see the inconsistency, and 161 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a hard job, you know, watching 162 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: these watching professional athletes and having to make a call 163 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: at full speed on the field. You know, it's a 164 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: hard job for these refs. But but that that, uh, 165 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the TV coverage sort of exposed the you know, the 166 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: human error and then sort of the the issue with 167 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: some of the games. So I think that the that 168 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: they a little bit of regulation limiting, I think uh 169 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: lent itself to just keeping some consistency in the flow 170 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: of the game, and well letting the refs putting the 171 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: rests and making them have to do their job right. Yeah. 172 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: You know some of us, Luke and I am one 173 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: of them, and your father and I kind of argue 174 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: this all the time. Some of us think, do away 175 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: with replay, you know, accept the human element, accept officials 176 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: making mistakes. I think the most frustrating thing though, is 177 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: that when you're because of because of the technology that 178 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: we have now, it can be so frustrating as a 179 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: fan to see it at home and you can see 180 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: it better than the refs can in some players, so 181 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: it makes it really really hard to have such a 182 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: lack of control sitting on your couch. But you know 183 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: what the right call should have been, right, Yeah, I 184 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: guess my point. You're never going to get it perfect right, 185 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: no matter how many replay challenges do you have, Knowing 186 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: how many opportunities you have to challenge, it's never going 187 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: to be perfect right. And that's why I'd be okay 188 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: if they get away. I keep using replays, but don't 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: use it to officiate the game. There's differences in the 190 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: number of cameras and the angles they get. I mean, 191 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's just not right. I don't think it's right. 192 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: And I know I accept the that that's an unpopular opinion, 193 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: and then it is not likely to happen, and it's 194 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: probably anyway the fact, that's probably an old guy opinion, right, 195 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: I remember an era before replay challenges, and look, everybody 196 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: wasn't perfectly happy with officiating then, and by the way, 197 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: people aren't perfectly happy with officiating now. Yeah, it will 198 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: never be that's a good point. Yeah, no one's ever 199 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna be told. There's always gonna be a loser on 200 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: every side of the argument, right, Yeah, drives me crazy, 201 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: all right, Luke Taskers here in place of Steve, we're 202 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: talking about the CFL. We'll talk with our man Darren 203 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: Hackwood at two about that. We're going to talk about 204 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: draft prospects at one o'clock with the great Cosal. We 205 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about and you're welcome to 206 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: join us. Eight oh three five fifty toll free one 207 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We have 208 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: a Twitter poll today. We approach free agency right where 209 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: a week and a half now, March sixteenth, away from 210 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: the legal recruitment period for free agents. We are a 211 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: little bit less than two weeks away from the official 212 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: free agency start to start of the new new league year, 213 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: two weeks from last Wednesday, so it's what twelve days 214 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: from now would take it to March sixteenth and eighteenth. 215 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: So here's the question for you about free agency. What 216 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: do you think is the Bill's best recruiting tool in 217 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: free agency? What do they have in their pocket that 218 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: would really clinch a deal with some of the free 219 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: agents they're talking with. Give us a call eight O 220 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five 221 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. You can vote in our Twitter poll. 222 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: You can send it a tweet if you'd like, we 223 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: may read it on the tweet. Get in the Twitter 224 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: poll what's the best recruiting tool for the Bills in 225 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: free agency? Already we've got two hundred eighty votes in 226 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: and thirty seven percent of you say money and available 227 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: cap space. That's a big recruiting tool. That's thirty five percent, 228 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: I guess. Thirty eight percent say the coaching staff. Wow, 229 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: thirty eight percent say that's the biggest recruiting tool. Fourteen 230 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: percent say the state of the art facility with the 231 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: new weight room and player performance center that went up 232 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: last April and ten percent say having a good quarterback 233 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: to play with that would be the number one recruiting tool. 234 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you got something else, Maybe your choice is not 235 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: on our list. Give us a call. Eight three fifty 236 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: to eighty two five fifty the best recruiting tool for 237 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: the Bills in free agency? You know what's not up there? 238 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: Luke is a contending team. I would think that make 239 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: a difference, right, wouldn't it? I do too, And what 240 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm surprised the most about people's responses as the coaching staff, 241 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: and it is interesting and I can and I can 242 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: see why that would be valuable. But as I'm thinking 243 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: through as as a player, what would I would have 244 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: ranked higher as a quarterback? And I'm a receiver, so 245 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: it directly affects directly affect my my play and my performance. 246 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: But you know what, I think that, uh, I think 247 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: that as a player, you sort of have a tendency 248 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: to put the onus on yourself and your teammates. You know, 249 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: you're kind of going to get the job done regardless 250 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: type of thing. Um. The facilities we have the Bills 251 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: have great facilities here and there, and there is there 252 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: is discrepancy around the league between between teams. You know. 253 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: I remember being in camp with the Charges in thirteen 254 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: when they were in San Diego, and that was a 255 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: that was a really really poor facility compared to the 256 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: rest of the league. The stadium at self walkm But 257 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: but I but I actually love their practice ailities, very 258 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: practice kind of around the corner Murphy Canyon Road. That's right. Yeah, 259 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: it was cool and and but when you compare it 260 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: to you to a place to the facilities like this, 261 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: it really wasn't. It really wasn't in the same class. 262 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't. I don't think is a 263 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: free agent that I would be thinking so strongly about that. 264 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: You're talking you want to you want to choose teammates 265 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: that that are gonna be the kind of guys who 266 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: can win a championship and certainly money, you know, right, 267 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, guys are going to follow the money. And 268 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: that's and there's nothing, uh, there's no surprise about that. 269 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: You know. We got as a choice in the Twitter 270 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: poll money slash available camp space to players care what 271 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: the camp situation is for a team that they might 272 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: want to be interested in signymore. I guess what we're talking. 273 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: I guess they're trying to be strategic as to how 274 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: many other good players they could sign up. You know what, 275 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: I think it'd be a smart move. Um in my mind, 276 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: that's why you have an agent, you know, I think 277 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: I think you don't want to have to you know, 278 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to be thinking so so wildly about that. 279 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: But also, you never know how long you're going to 280 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: be able to play football. So if the money's out there, 281 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: whether or not they have cap space, whether or not 282 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: they have a facility, you need to strike while the 283 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: iron's hot. If you're if you're a free agent, that 284 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: is that is uh, you know, really sought after, and 285 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be That would be 286 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the leading cause for most guys. You know, thirty seventh 287 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: percent of respondents so far say coaching staff. I don't 288 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: know if that would be the most important thing to me, 289 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: but I would understand why a free agent looking around 290 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: would would want to know who the coach is, who 291 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: the staff is, Who do I have to report to? 292 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: Whom I working with? Right? That would make it differ. 293 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: You don't want to work for a jerk and you 294 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: don't want to work for a guy who's clueless and 295 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: doesn't give you the best chance to win. Correct. Yeah, certainly, 296 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: I almost think that I could see it carrying weight 297 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: if there's really, you know, a proven championship caliber head coach, 298 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, I could see that carrying weight for a 299 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: guy who's later in his career and is really you know, 300 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: it's high on his list to just to be a 301 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, you know. And if and if this 302 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: is your second contract, the guy who's played out his 303 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: rookie deal and he's looking to really make his first 304 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: big signing bonus, I really think that would be down 305 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the list. I could. I could see that being down 306 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: the list. But for guys who have been around and 307 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: this is their sort of their contract, their chance to 308 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: be a champion, I could see them. I could see 309 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: the head coach carrying some weight. Beyond that, I don't 310 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: see that as so so huge a factor. And free agent, 311 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: so what do you We're asking our listeners and viewers 312 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: today what's the best recruiting tool for the Bills in 313 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: free agency? And as they mentioned, not mentioned on this 314 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: list is chance to win. I would think that would 315 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: have something to do you would want to go to 316 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: a team that that could tell you, hey, we're going 317 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: to be in the super Bowl in two years, or 318 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: we're headed for the super Bowl. We're winning now, right. 319 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: That would make a difference to a player. I think 320 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: most players I do, and I think the I think 321 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: the older the free agent is the more important. That 322 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: would be the chance that the you know, the viability 323 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: of a championship. I could really see that carrying carrying 324 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: weight as well. So give us a call. Eight three 325 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 326 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: What's the best recruit tool for the Bills in free agency? 327 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: We got open phone lines. Let's go to the tweet sheet. 328 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: It is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the 329 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Let me start with 330 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Seth here and he goes. Coaching staff is number one. 331 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: Alan is the guy McDermott wanted. The new facilities would 332 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: not have been built up without his attention to detail 333 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: and the sports science backing being controls the cap and 334 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: McDermott brought him in. Free agents want to be a 335 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: part of what Shaun has created in Buffalo. Let's go 336 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: I think you're right, Seth especially, and I don't know 337 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: if i'd vote coaching staff number one. But in the 338 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo case, in the case of the Bills, which is 339 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: what we're asking about, Sean McDermott has put his stamp 340 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: on the entire organization. Yes, he had a lot to 341 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: do with Brandon being coming in here. Yes, you know 342 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: they built the new weight room. Now, whether he was 343 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: involved in it, was he the impetus behind that hard 344 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: to say, but I'm sure he had something to do 345 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: with it. Sports science has been beefed up here under 346 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Attention to detail is important to Sean McDermott. 347 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: So in this case in Buffalo, yeah, the coaching staff. 348 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a smart player, you'd look around 349 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: and say, hey, that's the kind of coach i'd like 350 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: to work for, isn't it. Luke, Yeah, I do. I 351 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of it goes you can you know, 352 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: you can if you're a free agent out there and 353 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: you can make calls, your agent can can do some 354 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: research and stuff. But for the most part, a lot 355 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: of guys around the league only know Sean McDermott as 356 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: well as we do as fans, right and so I 357 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: think that what they're going off is his demeanor and 358 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: his and certainly their record over the past years and 359 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: how they've increased success for the franchise. But I think 360 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: that he does give off a presence of a guy 361 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: who a young player is going to want to play for. 362 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: He gives off, he gives off a team, you know, 363 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: a players coach type of energy, and I think it 364 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: is I think it is an asset to Buffalo and 365 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: free agency. It's funny. When I was younger, players coach 366 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: been easy on players and a guy who got along 367 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: with players. I don't think it means that anymore. I 368 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: don't think so either. Actually, and you're right mcdermot's case, 369 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: i'd call him a player's coach, but he is not 370 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: easy on his players. I mean he forces them to work, 371 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: forces them to pay attention. Yeah, no, I kind of 372 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: see that more so as someone who's very relatable to players. 373 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: And I think that it's it's It might be a 374 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a cop out just to say he's younger, 375 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, but it certainly carries a little bit of weight. 376 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: I think he's just a guy that and again, yeah, 377 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: it almost us it seems like he's a guy. But 378 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: that's that's strong because that's all free agency you have 379 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: to free agents have to go off as well. He 380 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: seems like a guy who who who I can believe in, 381 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: who's authentic and I can relate to. Let's get your 382 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. Another visit to the tweet sheet from Kevin, 383 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: he says best recruiting tool for the Bills going into 384 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: free agency. Kevin says, hey, we're now a playoff team. Also, 385 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: if Brady leaves, we will definitely have a good chance 386 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: of winning in the division. I'm sure that'll have an 387 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: impact on free agents coming year. Right again, it's the 388 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: winning thing, But wouldn't it have an impact? I don't. 389 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: I actually don't mind that point at all. And I 390 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: know that that seems you know, you want to have 391 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: the attitude. I don't care who we're playing. We're gonna 392 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be champions. But we know it's sort of 393 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: been the curse of the AFC East for a lit while, 394 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: hasn't it. And so I think if if Brady ends 395 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: up in out West or wherever he uh ends up, 396 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: I think that uh sort of a weight off the 397 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: rest of our shoulders. Yeah, one more on the tweet 398 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: sheet and only ten percent of our respondent agree with 399 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: this one. But this is from Nick who says a 400 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: good quarterback with that they know they always have a 401 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: chance to win. You mentioned how important that is to 402 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: a receiver. Probably less important to a free agent who's 403 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. But I think 404 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and most likely in the CFL, you 405 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere if you don't have a good quarterback, 406 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: right and people know that. Free agents know that too, Yeah, exactly, 407 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: And even on the defensive side of the ball. I 408 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: think it's an interesting point. And I don't know in reality, 409 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: is a defensive player who's a free agent looking looking 410 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: strongly into this into the teams that are that are 411 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, pursuing him? I don't know, but in my mind, 412 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: I do think it would carry a lot of weight. 413 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: And I think that even on the defensive side of 414 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the ball, you want to you want to see a 415 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: leader and a guy who you know, who's gonna who's 416 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: a winner, you know, a gamer. And again I think we, 417 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: I think we probably in Buffalo have have that as 418 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: an asset for us and free agency as well. And 419 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: look in Hamilton, you've been there seven years now? What 420 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: has accounted for the tie Cat's success over the years 421 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: and it wasn't continue well? But yeah, especially this past year. 422 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: You guys a big rebound this year, right for him? Yeah, 423 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: we had the best regular season in tye Cat history 424 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: this year and we lost in the Great Cup. But 425 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: I can take the answer is easy for twenty nineteen 426 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: and that that is our head coach. And that is interesting. 427 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: I actually sense that it's happening in free agency right 428 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: now with Hamilton that we have a guy there, Orlando 429 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: stein Steinhauer, CFL player and defensive coordinator for years and 430 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: this was his rookie season as a head coach and 431 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: he uh and he it was the best regular season 432 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: in a more than a one hundred year old franchise history. Uh. 433 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I do actually sense that in free agency right now 434 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: with the tie Cats, that is that is attracting players 435 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: around the league to play for a guy like Orlando 436 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: Steinhauer And I'm gone, has he been there? Uh? So 437 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: he was. He was a defensive coordinator starting in twenty 438 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: and thirteen, went down to the NC DOUBLEA for a 439 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: season and then came back as an assistant coach and 440 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: then took over when June Jones went to the XFL 441 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: from Hamilton, How long did you June Jones? June was 442 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: there for a year and a half and he is 443 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: one of my he's one of my favorite coaches I've 444 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: ever played for. He was and he also brought Jerry 445 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Glanville in to be the defensive Quarter's fantastic. They're they're 446 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: they were, They're unbelievable. Uh Football football lives. You know, 447 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: it's just it's it was fantastic there. But uh, um, 448 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: what made June Jones so special for you? You know 449 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: what I mean if anyone has ever met him, He's 450 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: got this real laid back Hawaiian sort of lifestyle about him, 451 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: and but he's also real. He has he just the 452 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: way that he installs an offense and says he was 453 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: our offensive coordinator as well as head coach, but he 454 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: really frees up receivers and quarterbacks to make plays. His 455 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: offense on paper is very it's pretty simplistic in that 456 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: it's just not overly wordy or you know, we don't 457 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: have a playbook. You know that's a three inch binder 458 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: full of plays. It's really more so basic concepts that 459 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: then he that then we have infant numbers of reads 460 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: and decisions to make after that, so we rep and 461 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: rep and rep the time you get to a game. 462 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: June's message messages more so just like man, go do it. Man. 463 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: He's guy's just he's just a cool, cool way about him. 464 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: And I never I don't know if I've ever had 465 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: more fun than playing with with June. It was awesome. 466 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: And you had Jerry Glanville as a defensive cornator. Don't 467 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: know how much contact you had with him because of that. 468 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: But he's a guy's your dad told us he went 469 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: up there once and Glanville was all over him. And 470 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: he remembers Glanville coach here for a while too. That's right. Yeah, 471 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: his his Uh, he's his son was born during a 472 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: buffle Bill's training camp and then when they were here 473 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: in West New York and uh, and he was with 474 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: the hous Snoilers and my dad was drafted. Um he's 475 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: also in the XFL now, so all those guys are 476 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: and and uh and Trustman Mark Trustman's down there as well, 477 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: and uh, all these CFL guys are down there together. 478 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: But uh, Glanville was He's just not He's an unbelievable guy. 479 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: He used to wear the uh, let's see the you know, 480 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: the big western like duster jacket to the game. It's 481 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the cowboy hat and blues man. And so you had 482 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: your your current coach, you had June Jones. Uh, I 483 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: know you went there because of your Cornell coach was 484 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: at right well, Yeah, Ken Austin, Yeah, Ken Austin and 485 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: Tommy Condell, who's still there now. They went together from UH, 486 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: from Cornell to UH to the Hamilton Tiger Cats. Yeah. 487 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: Kent was a you know, old miss and a CFL 488 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: legend as a player in Saskatchewan. Um, and he was great. 489 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: My My career would not have started as quickly or 490 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: as uh, you know, as well as it did without 491 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: Kent there because I kind of went there with some 492 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: with some trust already in the trust jar, you know, 493 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: and I could kind of I could kind of get 494 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: on the field pretty pretty quickly. Um. And Kent is 495 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: a is a household name in the CFL. So, uh, 496 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: he's back in He's back in the NC doublea now. 497 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: But he uh, he's had a great run multiple times 498 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: in the CFLs. I don't know that much about CFL, 499 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: but it does seem like it's a fun league. And 500 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: even when guys go there, like these coaches you talk 501 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: about who lead for the XFL or leave to go 502 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: back to college, it seems like they really appreciate their 503 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: time in the CFL. Yeah, it seems like it. And 504 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys, uh well, players and 505 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: coaches included, they go up to the CFL thinking, you know, 506 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm just doing this until I can get back to 507 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: the NFL, or until I can get a coaching job 508 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: at a big college, or if I can. You know, 509 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: I just want to this is just a bridge to 510 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: my next to the next part of my career. In reality, 511 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: it ends up being a great, a great thing for 512 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: him a lot of I've seen a lot of Americans 513 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: go up there and make their home there because of 514 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: the success that they've had as a player or a coach. 515 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: Um certainly fun. I've had a great seven seasons. Yeah, 516 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: in your situation, obviously you made a good living, but 517 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: it was close to home, so you live there part 518 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: time during the season, and it's been the off seasons year. Yeah, 519 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: we want we live. We lived all over the Hamilton, 520 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: Southern Ontario area while we while I played there for 521 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: six years, and it is like a second home for 522 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: my family, and I was great. Luke Tasker is our guests. 523 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about the Bills getting set for free agency. 524 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: What do you think the best tool they have in 525 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: their pocket as they get set for free agency? Give 526 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: us a call eight O three fifty toll free one 527 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's take 528 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: a call. Here's Trent in Webster, New York High Trent, 529 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with this. Thanks John 530 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: for having me, and you guys are doing a great 531 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: job because I believe the process is a real thing. 532 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: I believe that's one of the most important tools because 533 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: guys like Jordan Phillips is probably a perfect example of 534 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: what the process can be. And also John Brown Cole 535 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: belize they were good players, but they all seem to 536 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: get better with the process. And that is also including 537 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: some of the rookies that came out underrated like Dawson Knox, 538 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace undrafted. So the process is a real thing. 539 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: I think that the league is self is starting to 540 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: believe it's a real thing and seeing it. So I 541 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: tell you, I don't care how good a player. Excuse me, 542 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: I don't care how good a player is. I believe 543 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: he'll be his best self in Buffalo. Not to sound 544 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: like San McDermott, but yeah, that's what Sean said last weekend, Indy. 545 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: I wonder and look on your take on this. We 546 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: hear a lot about the process. I'm not discounting it, 547 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: but are the Bills different in that sense? Do they 548 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: have a process that other teams, if they don't have 549 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: it at least are not trying to get to that? 550 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, and when you win, the process looks much 551 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: better than when you don't win, by the way. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 552 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: I do think that's a direct reflection of the head 553 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: coach too, and the message that he uh that he 554 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: sends out. Um, I will say right now, it's kind 555 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: of a I could see Buffalo being attractive to free 556 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: agents because of where they are there. It's almost you 557 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: can kind of sense that it's on the cusp of 558 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: being a really successful franchise again. And so I do 559 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: think that sort of the process and the and the 560 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: pathway for really changing being a part of a good 561 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: change and the franchise could be a real attraction. Yeah. 562 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: It's great because there was a time twenty years ago 563 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: and I never thought i'd hear anybody say Buffalo would 564 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: be an attractive free agent spot, and mostly it was, 565 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, losing and bad weather. And the Bills have 566 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: sort of overcome a lot of that's certainly losing, they 567 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: have right weather still stings, lack of a David Busters 568 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: and proximal right yeah, nightlife like Willis mcgahey, you know, 569 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: spending his nightlife and all right was the name in 570 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: place Applebee's. I think Luke taskers with us all day 571 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: today from now till three. Great co Sale is going 572 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: to join us at one o'clock and we're gonna talk 573 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: about CFL rules with Darren hackwooted two. Let's hear your 574 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. What's the best recruiting tool for the 575 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: Bills as they get set for free agency. We're just 576 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away. Give us a call. Eighth 577 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five 578 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Just underway here in Orchard Park. 579 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: It's one Bills Hive, presented by a Lot of Health 580 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. And this is 581 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio one Bills five. Good afternoon, Welcome to 582 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: Orchard Park. New York. I'm chat Murphy with Luke Tasker today. 583 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: Steam Tasker is off for a couple of days off 584 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: today and Friday. We've got us on. Luke in here 585 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: with us today, CFL receiver. Good to have here, Luke, 586 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: so I can get a different perspective. I mean, the 587 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: CFL is so close and the games are so available. 588 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's a game at least one on ESPN 589 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: now every week. I think it's two week on ESPN 590 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: now I've started. Yeah, yeah, it's just great. It's great 591 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: to have you here. I'm really happy to have you here. 592 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: And you've got a different respective including and I want 593 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: to get to this. Well, let's get to it now, 594 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: a different respective as NFL players vote over the next 595 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: week on a new CBA that benefits younger players, and 596 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: you're kind of out of the realm of the you know, 597 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: seven year vendor in the CFL. But you can understand 598 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: why players might go for this if they were a first, second, 599 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: third year player thinking, oh, save one hundred thousand dollars 600 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: more for minimum salary. I'll go for that. Yeah. It's 601 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: interesting that the latest CBA and the CFL did A 602 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: is A is a movement in the in a similar direction. Basically, 603 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: it's there there's more roster spots and there's a higher 604 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: minimum wage, so more guys are able to work for 605 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: work for money, and they're doing it for for a 606 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: higher dollar. It's great. The I do think that a 607 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: lot of the older players are are I think it'd 608 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: be easy to sense that one extra game, one extra 609 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: toll on your body because it is tough, and especially 610 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: get to the second half of the season and you're 611 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: sort of you're sort of trying to piece it together. 612 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: So to make to go one out, one more Sunday 613 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: on the field, yeah, a little bit more money. But 614 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: for the higher the higher dollar guys, I could see 615 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: that them, you know, I could see this, uh this CBA, 616 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: not them sensing that it's not so much in their favor. 617 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: That's sort of the way that I see it. But 618 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: certainly for you know, two extra roster spots I'm thinking about, 619 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, for undrafted free agents, you know, just an 620 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: understanding that there's there's a few more jobs being given 621 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: out around the league this year. Yeah. Um, you have 622 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: a good perspective on this because of a couple of things. 623 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: Number One, you were injured last year, which maybe it's 624 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: wear and tear for an extended schedule. And number two, 625 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: you do play an extended schedule, right, you play eighteen 626 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: games a year. Yeah, we have eighteen games up there, 627 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: but what needed to happen though? With eighteen games they've 628 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: actually made it three bye weeks throughout the season now, 629 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: so the season takes twenty one weeks to get through 630 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: when then you have preseason in playoffs of course, so 631 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: I will say that two extra bye weeks throughout the 632 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: season they go a long ways, and especially the CFLs 633 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: interesting that the bye weeks are are not evenly broken up. 634 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: It's sort of sometimes teams will get stuck with two 635 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: bye weeks in the first you know, month and a 636 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: half of the season. But that's uh sort of the 637 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: luck of the draw. The if you can have get 638 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: your bye week spaced out pretty evenly, it's a it's 639 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: amazing what a couple of days of in a week 640 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: without being tackled does for your longevity. And the NFL 641 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: has elected in the current CBA proposal to stick with 642 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: just one by week in a seventeen game schedule. I 643 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: think it's they're looking at eighteen games soon. Yeah, well 644 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: that would be it's a lot and to do that 645 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: every single week, and uh, you know, I think there 646 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: are times, especially towards the end of the season in 647 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: the CFL, if the playoff picture gets locked up, it's 648 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: sort of you know, it's there's guys resting. You know, 649 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: that can happen. Um. But I especially imagine that if 650 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: the NFL goes to eighteen, you'll see an extra bye 651 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: week as well. The issue, I think issue if you 652 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: want to call it that, but it just extends a 653 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: season so long. You know, now you're talking about twenty 654 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: weeks as opposed to seventeen, which which what it would 655 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: have been. I wonder you're dead and I talk about this, Um, 656 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: is there any danger do you think? And you're in 657 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: a different league in a different country, but is there 658 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: any danger that the NFL gets over exposed on television? 659 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: Seventeen or even eighteen weeks plus an extra playoff round, Yeah, 660 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: sort of loses the uh loses the allure, the thrill 661 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: like it's always happening. Yeah. I mean essentially that's sort 662 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: of what can be said about hockey and basketball, right. 663 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not as special as a Sunday afternoon 664 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: for football to be honest, I don't think it would 665 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: happen one. I think it's still going to have that 666 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: that the glow of Sunday afternoon football, but certainly it's 667 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: a movement in that direction. Um. It's interesting because the 668 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: CFL plays on all all all days of the week. 669 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: You know, We're not just on Sundays. Uh, of course 670 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: there's days. There's other games now in the NFL as well, 671 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: but Sundays sort of football day in America, and uh, yeah, 672 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: we played Friday. I'd say half of them are all 673 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: end up being on Saturdays or Sundays, but we also 674 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: have Fridays, Thursdays, Mondays a couple times throughout the season. 675 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: So to be honest, I do think there's a little 676 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: bit less of a of that sense of football day 677 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: you know in Canada is sort of um, it is 678 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: sort of almost always happening. Yeah. Hey, Ryan fitz Patrick, 679 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: familiar facing name here in Western New York, played for 680 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: the Bills, quarterback for the Miami Dolphins, and a video 681 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: statement today he's actually sent to Trey Wingle or old 682 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Buddy from ESPN, and Fitzpatrick explained why he is voting 683 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: yes on the CBA, and he sent his yes vote in. 684 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Here's what Ryan Fitzpatrick had to say today. There's a 685 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: long list of reasons why. I think first, when we 686 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: met with NFLPA leadership during the season, we gave them 687 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: things that we wanted to see addressed. Whether it was 688 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: the increased minimum salaries, the drug policy in regards to marijuana, 689 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: different work conditions in terms of increased roster spots, treating 690 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: the practice squad a little bit better, you know, hours 691 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: that were able to be at work, less hitting in 692 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: training camp. There was a ton of different things that 693 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: we said we wanted to be addressed, you know, the 694 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: increased benefits for current players, increased benefits for pass players. 695 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: I think the vast majority of those were hit in 696 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: address in this CBA. I think the most important part 697 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: of the CBA, though, comes down to revenue sharing, and 698 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: for us as players, revenue sharing getting a larger percentage 699 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: of the pie is important, but also the overall growth 700 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: of that pie is important, and those two things both 701 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: happen if we sign the CBA. I think the fact 702 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: that in signing this CBA and voting yes shows solidarity 703 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: with ownership and players, and I think that's important. And 704 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: I also think that it shows the stability and the 705 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: strength of our league. And as we go in to 706 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: negotiate with these new sponsorship deals and these new TV deals, 707 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: solidarity and strength and stability are things they're going to 708 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: be on our side. They're going to help us increase 709 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: the overall worth of that pie. Right Fitzpatrick, Dolphin's quarterback 710 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: in general, He said he voted yes because the benefits 711 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: outweighed the negatives, and he makes some good points there. Certainly, 712 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: it's a lot to listen to if you were a 713 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: player or even a young player. And he talked about 714 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: the growth of the pie. It's one thing. So they're 715 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: going up to forty eight and a half percent percent 716 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: of revenue will go to the players. But okay, the 717 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: percentage will go up, but the pies are gonna get bigger, bigger, 718 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: he said, it's a growth of that pie. There's no 719 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: guarantee if they don't vote yes on this proposal this week, 720 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: there's a chance there's a risk anyway that the pie 721 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: might not grow as big. And so yes, it's a 722 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: it's an increase of one and a half percentage points 723 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: forty seven to forty eight and a half. But more importantly, 724 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: it's it's a bigger pie to choose from right to 725 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: divide it up. I think that's important for Fitzpatrick to 726 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: point that out. I think it's critical. I'd be interested 727 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: to see if he's saying the positives outweigh the negatives. 728 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: I would like to hear what a guy like Fitzpatrick 729 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: thinks that the negatives are. I imagine it's interesting to 730 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: hear this from as a fan, but as a player, 731 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: an extra game to play is considered a negative. I mean, 732 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: I know, to make more money is a positive, but 733 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: it's they have to balance the toll on their bodies 734 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: to the amount of money that they're making. So I 735 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: imagine that's one. But I wonder what else the veteran 736 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: players are are considering, you know, the compromise that they're 737 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: making on right there. We had a guest on our 738 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: show two days ago Wednesday, Andrew Brandt, who is the 739 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: former executive with the Green Bay Packers now a player agent, 740 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: and they had a pretty good argument for voting against 741 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: the new CBA. The proposed CBA which included the length, 742 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, an eleven year it'll mount to an eleven 743 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: year deal with no opt out provision, and let's face it, 744 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: you know this young millennial that you are. The landscape 745 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: will change over the next eleven years. There ways to 746 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: deliver that football product and that we don't even know 747 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: of yet, and it'll it'll come up in ten or 748 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: eleven years, and it'll mean new revenue for the league, 749 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: and the players are sort of walking away from that revenue. 750 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: Right If ye eleven years is a is you know, 751 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: it's an eternity three three average careers away from then. 752 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot of things that could change 753 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: in that time. The other thing that Fit said, which 754 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: I thought was significant, was there's a lot of talking. 755 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Brandt mentioned this, how what are we doing? You know, 756 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: the contract the CBA isn't even up for another year, right, 757 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: the official CBA isn't up until after the twenty twenty season, 758 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: and people feel like the players are being rushed into it. 759 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 1: But his Fitz points out there really isn't a rush. 760 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: He claims ten months they've negotiated this. They had meetings 761 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: before players with their executive committee, told them what issues 762 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: were important. They got some of those issues addressed, their 763 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: work rules, increased benefits, that sort of thing, and so 764 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: it's not like they just this is like just happened 765 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: last week. According to fitz, they've been talking about these 766 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: issues for almost a year now, and he thinks Fitz 767 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: sounded like he thinks they've done a pretty good job 768 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: of addressing those issues. Yeah, seems like they have been 769 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: been pretty proactive, the league and the players. I would 770 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: imagine on both sides a strike and lockout scenario wants 771 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: to be avoided. Yeah, and so I think they've just 772 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: been on top of it right from the start. It 773 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: seems like there is a CFL players Association. There is, Yeah, 774 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: model modeled very similarly after the NFL they had much 775 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: of power. Uh Yeah, this last CBA was considered a win. 776 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of kind of that language at 777 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick us. It seems like it was a sort of 778 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: a seemed like a win win, which has very pretty 779 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: unusual for for negotiations like this. But uh uh, the 780 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: league continues and it was the same the same sort 781 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: of things were decided on, an increased minimum wage, roster 782 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: spots added, which I think is a huge thing for 783 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: young players, just more jobs available, um, and an increased 784 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: salary cap. But the the like he's saying, a bag 785 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: more pieces of the pie and a bigger pie. The 786 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: truth of of how that's going to play out, has 787 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: it has to be seen. Is the increase in salary 788 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: cap going to more than account for the increased and 789 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: minimum wage? You know, those are two numbers that have 790 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: to be uh, you know, they have to work together 791 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: in order to actually benefit the players. Um. So we'll see, 792 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: just like every CBA, it's gonna it'll play out, and 793 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: and we'll see who actually ends up being the winner 794 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: between the league and the players, hopefully both The one 795 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: thing that's changed, Um, you know, twenty years ago, they 796 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: would fight, they would have a work stoppage, either a 797 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: lockout or a strike. And uh, it doesn't appear even 798 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: in the cards for either the NFL or the CFL, 799 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, primarily, I think because there's so much 800 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: more money state. Yeah, like, if you can tell players, 801 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: if you can tell an NFL player, a rookie making 802 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: minimum salary, your salary is going to be nine hundred 803 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: thousand dollars this year. Who wants to walk away from 804 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: that for a year? You don't. You just can't know. 805 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: And you're certainly willing to play an extra game as 806 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: a young player for for an increase like that. When 807 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: when all the all the compromises are on the table. 808 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: If it's going to be that big of a bump 809 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: and minimum wage, then then you know all the more 810 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah. So the CBA is out there players 811 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: voting on it next Thursday midnight. I think it's the 812 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: deadline for them to have their votes in. We'll see 813 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: how it goes. I would guess it's going to pass. 814 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit about the Bills in recruiting 815 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: free agents, and we're gonna take a break, come back 816 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: and resume that discussion. What do you think the best 817 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: recruiting tool is for the Bills in free agency? Is 818 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: the coaching staff highly regarded coaching staff? Is it the quarterback? 819 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: Is it the facility here? Is it money? Is it 820 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: just money? What do you think it is? Give us 821 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty toll free from 822 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 823 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: It's One Bills I presented by Kalaida Health from the 824 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: Seneca Studio in Orchard Part This is Buffalo Bill's Radio 825 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. It's One Bill's Live, John Murphy with Luke Tasker. 826 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: Steve's off today. Luke, his son is with us our 827 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: question of the day, what's the best recruiting tool for 828 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: the Bills as they approach free agency. Let's take a 829 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: look at our little Twitter poll and we'll take one 830 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: from Tiffany here. Okay, I'm betting on the coaching staff 831 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: have a unique ability to bring the best out of players. 832 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips resurrected his career and has a potential to 833 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: land a huge contract. The culture has been built makes 834 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: joining the Bills an attractive destination to play, you know. 835 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: McDermott said, Sean said that last week in Indie, and 836 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: he didn't say it to us, so I don't have 837 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: the SoundBite handy, but I'm sure that was like a 838 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: red flag to free agents. He said, hey, you come here, 839 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: there'll be the best you can be. Yeah. Now, that's 840 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: got to be attractive to a free agent, and they 841 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: got to prove it. They got to prove that they 842 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: do it. But they can cite examples of guys who 843 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, who came here kind of downtrodden, right, former 844 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: second round pick cut by the Dolphins. Bills picked him 845 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: up quickly and brought him here, and all of a sudden, 846 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips has nine and a half Saxon is it 847 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: is going to hit the free agency market. I mean, 848 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: they can point to examples of people being the best 849 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: they can be in Buffalo, and I think that would 850 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: go a long way towards three tracing free agents, wouldn't it. Yeah? 851 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: I do. I asked to do in the coaching staff 852 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: and the culture that they create. Again, I don't think 853 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna trump money for a free agent. For most freegans. 854 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: I say, you might have a really unique guy who's 855 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: really looking for an environment that fits him. But I 856 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: do think that in Buffalo Sean McDermott isn't is going 857 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: to be an asset to a lot of a lot 858 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: of free agents. Let's bring another tweet from the tweet 859 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: sheet brought you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movies 860 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills from Andrew. Andrew says, the fans 861 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: are best, the best recruiting foul, best way to get 862 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: players to come and play here is to show the 863 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: benefits of what Buffalo has to offer. Yes, we have 864 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: a possible franchise quarterback, but what makes his team so 865 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: special to the players are the fans. What do you 866 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: think of that? Luke, would you make a decision to 867 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: go play some way because they had good fans. To 868 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't think it's going to carry very 869 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: much weight and free agency. I think it's just a 870 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: benefit once you get here, you know, I think. And 871 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to it's hard to say, you know, because 872 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, you look around. It's not like it's not 873 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: like there's there's an NFL city that the fans aren't 874 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: going to to, you know, think highly of their of 875 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: their impact in but certainly in Buffalo, there's a history 876 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: and a tradition of of fanship and and good relation 877 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: with the community, the bills in the community, I mean, 878 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: the UH. I do think though that it's going to 879 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: be more so the money that the culture that the 880 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: in the locker room, that that the player is joining. 881 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what though, especially for for players 882 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: who have been here and are thinking about hitting the market, 883 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: I do think that probably the UH, the enjoyment of 884 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: the of the city and the fans is probably something 885 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: that's on their mind as well. Here's one from Jack. 886 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: He says, and Jack is a realist here. Deep down, 887 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: it's all about the green money and the costs of 888 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: living in seven one six talks the loudest that maybe, yeah, 889 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: you can't ignore that. You can't walk away from that, right, 890 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: And you know that's a smart that's a smart comment 891 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: too about cost of living too. There are some big 892 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: cities around here that you know, an equal contract is 893 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,479 Speaker 1: not going to mean an equal uh take home pay, 894 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: you can say, but I do tend to agree. I 895 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: think that for the most part, these free agents have 896 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: to uh. Like I said earlier, I think you don't 897 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: know how long your career is gonna last, and you 898 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: can't be uh, you can't be too shy about, you know, 899 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: the importance of money. You got to strike while it's hot, 900 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: and if you're valuable, it's time to make money right now. 901 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: So if you were in that boat, going to be 902 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: an NFL free agent, yeah, how would you feel about 903 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: taking more money from a team that maybe he didn't 904 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: have great fans or maybe not a great culture. It'd 905 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: be in the back of your mind, right, you'd saying, well, 906 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: I'm sacrificing some of this, but boy, I've only got 907 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: three or four years to make this money. I got 908 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: to do it now. Yep. I think that that when 909 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: it comes down to it, I guess it depends on 910 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: the dollar amount. But if there's a I think I 911 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: do think that I would still you still going to 912 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: follow the money. That's what these guys have to that's 913 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: what their career has has been heading towards. And when 914 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: it's time to sign a big contract and it's time 915 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: to get paid, I think that's what they'll do. But 916 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: that being said, uh, you know, if you're going to 917 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: go to a place that's been really struggling or that 918 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: has sort of an inconsistent fan base, I think what's 919 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: on your mind is the only way that that's going 920 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: to change is winning, you know, is winning games. And 921 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: I think that you know, you're going to have to 922 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: pull your your your support and your community along with you. 923 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: In Buffalo, that doesn't seem to be the case. You know, 924 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: we have We've had years and years of real love 925 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: and the Bills have such an identity with the city here, 926 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: So that's not going to be the case for Yeah, 927 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: although I was well, you said that, I was thinking 928 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: about it wasn't that long ago when the Bills, you know, 929 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: seventeen year playoff drout. Yeah, when maybe an attractive thing 930 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: was get in on the ground floor, help get us 931 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: back in the playoffs, being part of the group that 932 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: gets us in the playoffs and gets us going on 933 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: the right track as far as winning now, now that 934 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: is in the rear view mirror, but not that long ago. 935 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: That either it's an attractive element or one you say, 936 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 1: oh boy, I don't know, get the Bills in the playoffs. 937 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask. It's almost like we might 938 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: be it might be in a little bit of a 939 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: sweet spot here because you're still going to be part 940 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: of something turning around. But at the same time, we're not. 941 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: We're not the you know, we're not the struggling franchise 942 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: that we have been in the past. So I really 943 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: do think it could be a place where a player, 944 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: a free agent might see it a real chance to 945 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: be a part of something special and part of something growing. 946 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: You know, you're in a unique position. Lucas the son 947 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: of a former Bills icon and live in Western New 948 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: York and playing pro football in another league in another country. 949 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself a Bills fan? Do you follow it? Yeah? Yes, 950 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: I do, I really, I really do, And I had 951 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: to do when you're playing for the tie Cats. Uh not, 952 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: particularly when I was leaving college I was, you know, 953 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: I maybe would have said, uh, you know, I don't 954 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: care where a play or I don't care who wins. 955 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: I just want a job playing football. But uh, but no, 956 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: I certainly am a Bills fan and I still live 957 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: in Easter Roy here, so I you know, it's part 958 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: of a part of who I am, in part of 959 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: the community Lucas here until three. We're happy to have him. 960 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with great co sal about some of 961 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: the edge rush specialists in this year's draft class. We'll 962 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 1: do that when we return. It's One Bill's Life, presented 963 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health from the Seneca Studio Nica Resorts in Casino. 964 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: Nothing comes close. Ills Radio Network Stories the update from 965 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The CBA is being voted on by 966 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: NFL players this week. Dolphins quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick says he's 967 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: going to vote yes. He's the most prominent player so 968 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: far to publicly announced a yes vote for the CBA. 969 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: Sent a video to ESPN Stray Wingo. He talked about 970 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: why he's confident in the vote, citing increased minimum salaries, 971 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: increased roster spots, better work conditions, better practice squad pay, 972 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: less hitting in training camp and increased benefits for current 973 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 1: and former players. Fitzpatrick says he is in he's voting 974 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: yes on the new CBA. Washington Redskins have given seven 975 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl left tackled Trent Williams permission to seek 976 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: a trade. He says he hopes his time with the 977 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: Redskins is ended soon. He'd been at odds with the 978 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: organization for most of last year, citing concerns over how 979 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: they handled his medical condition. Eagles have brought back offensive 980 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: former offensive coordinator Marty morning Wag. He is back now. 981 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: He'll serve as senior offensive assistant offensive consultant to coach 982 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. They opted not to fill the offensive coordinator vacancy. 983 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: Morning Wagg has a wealth of experience two years as 984 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: head coach of the Detroit Lions, most recently a three 985 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: year stint as the Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator. The forty 986 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: nine ers San Francisco tendered five exclusive free agents yesterday 987 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: and also exercised options for fullback kyld Use Tech and 988 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: quarterback Kawan william And. The Niners don't want to cut 989 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver Marquis Goodwin, but they could trade him. Goodwin 990 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: has been discussed in trade talks. He played the nine 991 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: games last year before going on injured reserve with a 992 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: knee injury. Just twelve catches for one hundred eighty six 993 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: hours last season. Jets defensive tackle Quinnon Williams arrested last 994 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: night at Lguarde Airport for criminal possession of a weapon 995 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: trying to avoid a flight border flight at LaGuardia headed 996 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: for Alabama, carrying a gun with an Alabama permit, not 997 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: a New York state permit. Hockey News Hall Fame Center 998 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: Are Richard, who won eleven Stanley Cups, the most won 999 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: by any player, has died at the age of eighty four. 1000 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: Richard spent his entire twenty year career where the Montreal 1001 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: Canadians played in ten All Star Games, and the Savers 1002 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: lost to Pittsburgh last night four two. They play at 1003 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: Philadelphia tomorrow night. Here we go our number two, John 1004 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: Murphy and Luke Tasker in for his father Steve Tasker 1005 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 1: today joining us on the line. Good buddy. We talked 1006 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: to him last week at the combine. Greg Cosell, executive 1007 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 1: producer analyst for ESPN NFL Matchup, Senior producer, longtime senior 1008 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: producer at NFL Films. Greg, Hello, thanks coming on, and 1009 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: say hello to Luke Tasker Murph Luke. How are you 1010 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: guys doing today? Hey Greg, thanks for coming on. Good 1011 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: to have you here with us. Greg, Well, we started 1012 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: it last week when you were with us, and we 1013 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: decided we dig in a little bit deeper as we 1014 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: go through the draft. And look, many people think the 1015 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: Bills are interested in an edge rush guy. First of all, 1016 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: should they be looking for an edge rush guy? And 1017 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: are there capable guys that would fill the bill in 1018 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: this draft class? I think they probably should be given that. 1019 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: I think in an ideal world they'd like to rush for. 1020 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: I think that's been Leslie Fraser's approach and showing a 1021 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: Padermot's approach. You know, obviously they blitzed like every team does, 1022 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: but I think the foundationally they would really like to 1023 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: rush for. And I think they would love to have 1024 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: another pass rusher. Pass rushers one of those positions guys. 1025 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: As you know, everybody wants pass rushers. You never have enough. 1026 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: The question is given where they draft, is there one 1027 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: available early? Maybe not? Maybe so you never know that 1028 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: and then you start getting into the guys later in 1029 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: the draft. A lot of those guys I haven't quite 1030 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: seen yet. But you know, of course the later guys 1031 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: get picked. They get picked later for a reason. Yeah, 1032 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning, Greg. So, if 1033 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: the Bills need a pass rusher the way they rotate 1034 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, let's say you know nobody gets more than 1035 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: fifty five sixty percent of the snaps. Can you draft 1036 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: just a guy who's a pass rusher and get by 1037 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,280 Speaker 1: that way, and you know, get him out of the lineup, 1038 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: but it's not likely to be a situation where he 1039 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,479 Speaker 1: will be rushing the pass. I think you can murph 1040 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, and I don't 1041 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: have the Bills percentage right in front of me. But 1042 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: teams play out of their sub defensive packages far more 1043 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 1: than they play out of their base packages. Now, obviously 1044 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: you play out a sub if it's first and ten, 1045 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: then the other team brings three wide receivers on the field. 1046 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: Your defensive line could be a subdy line or not 1047 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: a subdy line, even if you're playing with five defensive 1048 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: back So every team approaches that differently. But at the 1049 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, you would certainly like to have 1050 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: pass rushers. You'd like to have guys who can win 1051 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: one on one matchups at times, certainly on the edge. Obviously, 1052 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: inside pass rushers is important, but the passing game in 1053 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: this league has changed too. There's a lot more quick game, 1054 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot more throws under ten yards in the 1055 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: air from the line of scrimmage. It's very difficult to 1056 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback in those kinds of situations. But 1057 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: yet there also are third and long situations which you 1058 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: need to get off the field and situations, Greg, do 1059 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: you think do you think of a rush in the 1060 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 1: early rounds for the Bills is going to be likely? 1061 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: Who do you who? Do you who do you think 1062 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: is as a go to guy to a select for 1063 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: the Bills? If you're talking about a pass rusher? Yeah, 1064 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: well we're what number did the Bills pick? Yeah? The 1065 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: guy who? Again, now you get into and I'm no 1066 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: good at Murph knows this, Luke. I'm not a mock 1067 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: draft guy, and I don't try to guess who teams 1068 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: are going to pick. So I have no idea if 1069 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: Calavon Chason from LSU would be there or twenty two 1070 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: or not. He's a fascinating prospect to me. He's only 1071 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: twenty years old. He's a high level edge prospect um. 1072 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: He's probably, oh I don't have his numbers right in 1073 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: front of me from the combine. I know he didn't 1074 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: work out, but he was there. But he's probably in 1075 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: the six four two fifty two fifty five range um, 1076 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: you know. I think he's just scratching the surface of 1077 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,280 Speaker 1: what he can become. He's an explosive athlete. He's got quickness, 1078 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: he's got sudden movement traits. I think he's got some 1079 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: of that what we call motorcycle lean, a little bit 1080 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,280 Speaker 1: to bend the edge. So I think he's a really 1081 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 1: fast that you see it right here on this highlight. 1082 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 1: You see that lean. We like to call that motorcycle lean. 1083 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: I think he's a guy who's just beginning to sort 1084 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: of get a feel for what he can do. And 1085 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: he may not be a stud his first year, but 1086 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: as I said, he's only twenty years old, and whether 1087 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: he's there at twenty two, I can't answer that. But 1088 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: he'd be a really intriguing pick for me if I was, 1089 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: if I was making the choice, But I probably will 1090 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: not get a phone call from the front office asking 1091 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: me who I'm going to. Who I would pick let 1092 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 1: me ask you about a guy who is not likely 1093 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: to be there, and he was regarded as the top 1094 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: edge rusher, Chase Young from Ohio State. He's going to 1095 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: be one of the top three to go. I know 1096 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: you don't like to rank him like that, but this 1097 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: guy is maybe a generational talent at the defensive end 1098 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: right well, the way I would describe that Murphys. He 1099 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: seems to be this year's generational talent like that, because 1100 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: two years ago Miles Garrett was that year's generational talent. 1101 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: But there's no question. And actually I saw Chase Young 1102 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: last night. This weekend is the Maxwell Football Club dinner. 1103 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: Last night was one event. Tonight's the full dinner, which 1104 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: I'll be attending. But Young clearly fits the profile of 1105 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: the edge pass rusher prospect. I mean, he's got size, length, 1106 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: high level athleticism. You watch his tape. He consistently challenges 1107 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 1: and corner the edge from wide defensive end alignments. He's 1108 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: got burst, he's got explosiveness. He does a really good 1109 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: job playing off contact, which they must teach at Ohio 1110 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: State because the Bossa brothers are really really good at 1111 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: that too. He just has elite athletic traits. I mean, 1112 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. He's explosion, lateral agility, change 1113 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: of direction, flexibility, bend closing speed. You can even line 1114 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: him up as what we call a joker, move him around. 1115 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: You saw the Bills do that a lot with Alexander 1116 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: Who's he retired, right Alexander? Yes, yep, yes, So I 1117 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: mean you know Young can do that too. So Young 1118 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: has everything physically and athletically you look for in a 1119 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: pass rusher and man. Seeing him in person last night, 1120 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: just in street clothes, he's a big dude. Now, could 1121 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: he be the best player in the draft. Could be? 1122 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think Joe Burrow is the 1123 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: best quarterback prospect. I wouldn't call Joe Burrow a transcendent 1124 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: quarterback prospect. If you start going back years and years 1125 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: and years, Burrows the best quarterback prospect in this draft. 1126 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: Possibly Young. I'm fascinated, but he won't be there. I 1127 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: think we talked about him last week. I'm fascinated by 1128 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, but obviously he's not a pass rusher in 1129 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: that sense. But Young is a really really good prospect 1130 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 1: with great cosell. He is executive producer of NFL Matchup 1131 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: on ESPN. Let me ask you about another guy who 1132 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that he had a great combine, but 1133 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: he's still pretty highly ranked from Iowa Ajes Vanessa. What 1134 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: do you think of him? Did he have a bad combine? 1135 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: Did he have a kind of stumble a little bit? 1136 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't have expected him to have a 1137 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 1: great combine, Murph, because I don't think he's that kind 1138 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: of player. You know. To me, he's not a pure 1139 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: pass rusher and the guy that I might think of 1140 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: when I think of Epinessa, and there's nothing wrong with 1141 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: this guy, by the way, but he's not an edge bender. 1142 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: And that's Cam Jordan from the Saints. Really good player. 1143 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: But Epinessa to me is more of that sort of 1144 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: base defensive end. I think a lot of people in 1145 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: a four to three would see him as a strong 1146 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: side defensive end, not an open edge rusher. A really 1147 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: really good player, I think, one of those sort of 1148 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: foundational building blocks of a defense. But if you're drafting 1149 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: him to be a bendy, flexible edge rusher, I don't 1150 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: think he's that guy. So you have to understand what 1151 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: he is and what he isn't. So but I would 1152 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: not have expected him athletically to blow up the combine 1153 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: because he's not that kind of guy. Great Cosl joins 1154 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: his ESPN NFL Matchup executive producer in analysts. We're going 1155 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: down the list of some of the edge rush guys. 1156 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask you about Terrell Lewis from Alabama, second 1157 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: team All SEC last year. What have you seen from 1158 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: him on tape? What do you make of him as 1159 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: a prospect? Right now, that's a guy I have seen 1160 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: it on tape and he's he's an interesting guy. I 1161 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: think he'll be a little polarizing. He's really high cut, 1162 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: he's long limbed. He's got a short torso long legs, 1163 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: and that kind of build often can limit your bending, 1164 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: flexibility and change of direction. But I think his tape 1165 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: showed that he was a better than average athlete. He 1166 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 1: had some excellent pass rush traits. He was hurt a lot. 1167 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: You have to factor that into the equation. You know, 1168 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: he's a long athlete, he's got quick feed. I think 1169 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: he can counter as a pass rusher. He may be 1170 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: a guy that needs coaching and development, but of course 1171 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: all these guys do to some degree, so he's interesting. 1172 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: My guess is some guys will really like him and 1173 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: other guys may not. The question is what is he 1174 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: for your defense in a four three defense? Can you 1175 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: line him up defensive end or is he simply a 1176 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: sub package pass rusher that will just play in those 1177 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 1: kinds of situations. And that's a determination you've got to make. 1178 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, there are a couple of 1179 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: snaps in which he showed really a nasty inside spin 1180 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: move that looked really good. Let me ask about Curtis 1181 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: Weaver of Boise State. What do you think about his 1182 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: prospects for the draft? You know, I struggled with him, Luke, 1183 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, and I need to see more 1184 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: of him, so I just want to put that out there. 1185 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: But he on tape he's got a bad body. I mean, 1186 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: I you know, and yeah, I struggle with that. So 1187 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure what he is. To be 1188 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 1: honest with you, did you see him at the combine? 1189 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: How did he come off in person? I wasn't sure. 1190 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. You know. He's one of those 1191 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 1: guys I'm kind of having a hard time with. So 1192 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: I need to do more work on him. So I 1193 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: don't feel like I can give a truly fair evaluation 1194 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: of what I think at this point. But on tape 1195 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: during the season, just I know he had numbers and 1196 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: he made plays. You know, you can't take that away 1197 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 1: from him, but he just didn't look the part to me. Hey, Greg, 1198 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned this name earlier and I did not include him, 1199 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: and I guess in my list of edge rush candidates 1200 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: in this use draft. But Isaiah Simmons had such a 1201 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: strong combine last week. He's sort of a he can 1202 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: play safety, I guess, could he play edge rush guy? 1203 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: As he more an inside linebacker. Where do you fit 1204 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: this guy? And do you consider him an edge rush 1205 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,760 Speaker 1: candidate in this draft? No, not in a strict sense. See. 1206 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: The thing about Simmons is he's sixty three and five 1207 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: eighths and two thirty eight, which immediately tells you that 1208 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: he's a linebacker from a size standpoint, But he really 1209 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: doesn't play like a linebacker, and in fact, Clemson played 1210 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: him as a space player more often than not. Now 1211 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 1: he rushed the quarterback at times, he had sas some sacks, 1212 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: but he really is a guy that you want to 1213 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: get him away from the bodies, not where the bodies are, 1214 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 1: So you look at the height and the weight, and 1215 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 1: you say, oh, he's a linebacker, but his game is 1216 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: really more that of a safe. So the question is 1217 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: in your base defense, because every team still has a 1218 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: base defense, the question is what does he play? Now 1219 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: people will debate that reasonable people will debate that. His 1220 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: size will tell you he's a linebacker. His style of 1221 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: play will tell you he's a safety. But there are 1222 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: not many safeties who are sixty three and five eights 1223 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: and two hundred and thirty eight pounds. But his style 1224 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: is that of a safety more than a linebacker. Yeah, 1225 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: and one other thing I got to ask you about 1226 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: this draft class and just the concept of edge rushers 1227 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: in particular. Some of them are linebackers, some of them 1228 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: are defensive ends. Doesn't matter what they're classified as. Is 1229 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: a three four four three thing that we're looking at 1230 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: when we try to put him in those classifications. I 1231 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: only think that matters in a base Okay, if a 1232 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: guy's a really good edge player, you're going to put 1233 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: him in your sub and he's going to rush the quarterback. 1234 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: And whether he puts his hand on the ground in 1235 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: a three point stands or stands up in a two 1236 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: point stands, that doesn't matter. He's an edge rusher, so 1237 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: that only matters in your base. Now, your base does matter, 1238 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: but a lot of teams only play your bass their 1239 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: base thirty percent of the time. I was talking with 1240 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator at the combine who said, when they 1241 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: went back through the season and charted all their plays, 1242 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: which teams do, he said, we were in a sub 1243 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: package on eighty percent of our snaps. So that means 1244 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: they were only in a base defense on twenty percent 1245 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: of their snaps. So that's why you know Terrell Lewis, 1246 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: maybe he's not a defensive end in a base four 1247 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: to three, but if you love the player and you're 1248 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna play sub seventy seventy five percent of the time, 1249 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: he's an edge rusher at that point, it doesn't matter 1250 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,959 Speaker 1: what you categorize him as other than edge rusher. Yeah, 1251 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: and more own and said that the Bills just promoted 1252 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: Jim Salgado to a newly named position. Anyway, Nickel coach 1253 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: Less Frazer sat out here the other day and said, 1254 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: we probably played Nickel seventy percent of the time last year. 1255 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: So that's the way it's going. Yeah, that's why you 1256 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: know it's funny you say that, and I haven't done 1257 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: many corners yet. That's you know, I'm only a one 1258 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: man GM team, Murph. I can't watch everybody, you know, 1259 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: But what's that? The thing about corners too is slot 1260 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: corner is a really important position in the NFL. And 1261 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: you don't normally see guys get drafted to play slot 1262 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: corner unless it's later in the draft, but that position 1263 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: has become really, really important. We're with great Cosal executive 1264 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: producer and analysts for NFL Matchup on ESPN, longtime senior 1265 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 1: producer in NFL films. Let me turn your attention a 1266 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: little bit to the free agent class, Greg, And there 1267 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: are some big names in the edge rush spot. This 1268 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 1: guy's not a small name. He's got a name, but 1269 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: he's intriguing to me. Robert Quinn, who played with the Cowboys, 1270 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: led the team Cowboys with eleven and a half sacks 1271 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: last year. I could see him somehow fitting in with 1272 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. But what do you see him? What 1273 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: do you think of Robert Quinn? Well, now that guy's 1274 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: in edge rusher. Yeah, and he's got great bend, great flexibility. 1275 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: Now he doesn't have a ton of moves I mean 1276 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: he is an edge rusher. You line him up at 1277 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: a wide nine defensive end position and he tries to 1278 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 1: win on the outside. The other thing he's always been 1279 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: really really good at are those inside stunts because he's 1280 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: got great flexibility. He's very good on what we like 1281 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: to call the long stick, where he actually would loop 1282 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,919 Speaker 1: behind two pass rushers, not just one. He's really good 1283 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: at that. But he's a true edge rusher. If you 1284 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: sign him, you know he's not gonna play sixty five 1285 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: snaps a game, but he can still rush the quarterback. 1286 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 1: That's that's what he does. Yeah, another free agent I 1287 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: want to ask you about, and he was just at 1288 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: the top of the list. We just had the defensive 1289 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: end ready to leave the Jaguars, Janick and Goaqway. I 1290 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: don't like him great for a variety of reasons. I 1291 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: don't know if he's a fit here personality wise, and 1292 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's that good a player. What 1293 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 1: do you think of in Goaqway from the Jags? Well, 1294 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I can't speak to the personality. I think he's a 1295 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: really good pass rusher. You know, there's a lot of 1296 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: dns who are like for instance, I've seen a lot 1297 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: of talk about in Goquay versus let's say Clowney, and 1298 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: I think in Goquay is a better pass rusher than 1299 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. I don't think he's as good a run 1300 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: defender as Clowney, but he's a better edge pass rusher 1301 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 1: than Clowney. And uh, you know again, I don't know 1302 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: the personality. I don't know the player, but someone's going 1303 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: to sign him because he can rush the quarterback and 1304 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: he's a defensive end. Can't you get a good run 1305 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: defender when you get your edge rusher or is that 1306 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: just is that not the both yea in one player? Yeah, theoretically, 1307 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: but not always? Okay answered? I mean, see, Murf, you 1308 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: and I were a little older. We remember the days 1309 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: when guys could do both really well. Right. You know 1310 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: nowadays a lot of guys are just kind of edge 1311 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: pass rushers or they're run defenders. Right, that's right? Hey, Greg, 1312 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that Jadeveon Clowney. Um, 1313 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: you know he went to Seattle in that trade last year, 1314 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 1: only came up with three secs after he was traded 1315 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: away from the Houston Texans. He still got it is 1316 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: he passed his prime. What do you think of Jadevion Clowney, Well, 1317 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: that was never the strength of his game. Murf um. 1318 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: He's never been a great edge pass rusher. He's not bendy, 1319 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: he's strong, he's powerful, um, but he's a really good 1320 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: run defender. But he's not a big time age pass rusher. 1321 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: Never really was. So I think when you signed Clowney, 1322 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: and of course he'll ask for a lot of money, 1323 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: they all do, that's what they should do. But you 1324 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: have to understand if you sign him what you're getting. 1325 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: And I think Seattle found that out. I think Seattle 1326 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: found out that, hey, you know what, he's a good player, 1327 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,440 Speaker 1: but he's not an edge pass rusher. And then what 1328 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: teams start doing. Euston did it? Seattle started to do 1329 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: it as he started moving him around, because he's not 1330 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 1: one of those guys just put your hand in the 1331 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: ground on the edge and go. That's not what the 1332 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 1: strength of his game is. Hey, Greg, what do you 1333 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: think of Shaquille Barrett from the Bucks nineteen and a 1334 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: half sacks last year? That that's attention getting that stat 1335 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: He's going to get a lot of money too. In 1336 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. Isn't he. Yeah, he will, 1337 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: and he's a pretty good edge pass rusher. He was 1338 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: in Denver for a couple of years in a rotation 1339 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: with Von Miller and when Shane Ray was there, then 1340 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: he got his opportunity in Tampa this year. I think 1341 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: he's got edge pass rush traits, so you know, like, 1342 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: for instance, I think he's a better pure edge pass 1343 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: rusher than Clowney. So it depends what you're looking for. Now. 1344 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Barrett's probably two fifty five, two sixty. Obviously he played 1345 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: last year and a defense that was very multiple with 1346 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: their front looks with Todd Balls and Tampa. But if 1347 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: you're looking for an edge pass rusher, he's a guy 1348 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: that would fit that, Bill Greg Another one on the 1349 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: list is Matthew Judon Jude nine and a half sacks 1350 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: last year. What do you think about his prospects. I 1351 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 1: think he's a little more of a complete, multi dimensional 1352 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 1: type player, Luke, I don't think he's a pure edge 1353 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 1: pass rusher capable of it, but I think in that 1354 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: defense in Baltimore, they were very versatile, very multiple with 1355 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: their fronts and their looks. He fit that extremely well, 1356 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: made a lot of plays that way. I think if 1357 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: you if you another guy that if you bring him 1358 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: in and say you just rushed the quarterback, he may 1359 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: not be that guy. If you're looking for a more 1360 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 1: versatile player, a player that can do different things. Now, 1361 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: the Baltimore defense is far different than the Buffalo defense. 1362 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Baltimore is very multiple with their front looks. Really, you 1363 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that about Buffalo in the same way. So 1364 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: if you bring him in, I'm assuming you're bringing him 1365 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 1: as a defensive end, not as a linebacker. So if 1366 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 1: you bring him in as a defensive end, he's not 1367 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 1: just purely a pass rusher. And one more name to 1368 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: throw at your greg edge rush guy. Soon to be 1369 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: a free agent, Eric Armstead from the forty nine Ers. 1370 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: What do you make of him? He's a fascinating guy 1371 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 1: because he's six seven six eight, played both defensive tackle 1372 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: defensive end, had an outstanding year long athletic. I like 1373 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: the player a lot. You can do a lot of 1374 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 1: things with him. You know, when you go to your sub, 1375 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: you can line him up either inside or outside in 1376 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: your base. He can actually play either inside or outside too. 1377 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,439 Speaker 1: So to me, he's intriguing, you know, I think he's 1378 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 1: he's a fascinating guy. I think the Niners would love 1379 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,439 Speaker 1: to keep him. I don't know what kind of money 1380 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: you'll get, and I don't know what their situation is 1381 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 1: with franchise tags and all that, but but Armstead, to 1382 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: me is a really really good player. Former first round 1383 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: pick too. Yeah, hey, Greg, as you look at this group, 1384 01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and I heard it said a number of times last 1385 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: week in India at the Combine that maybe the Bills 1386 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 1: focus in the draft should be an edge rush because 1387 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the wide receiver group is so deep they can get 1388 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 1: a good wide receiver leader on. Would that be a 1389 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: wise decision to make for the Bills get their edge 1390 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: rush guy early in the draft, maybe first or second round, 1391 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: and then get the receivers later. What do you think? 1392 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: You know? I always feel like Murph and not just you. 1393 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: But those are abstract statements because you don't know who's 1394 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: going to be there when you draft, right. So let's 1395 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: say they get to twenty two and there's a receiver 1396 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 1: sitting there who they absolutely love, and let's say had 1397 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 1: that receiver rated number eleven. You know, again, just hypothetically, 1398 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: you gotta take that guy at twenty two. You can't say, well, 1399 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: you know what, we'll get a guy in round three. 1400 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta stick to how you evaluate the players, 1401 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 1: and you gotta take your the best players. Now, everybody 1402 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 1: dressed for need, there's no question, but you have to 1403 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 1: be careful in my view anyway, and you've certainly never 1404 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: been in a draft room doing the picking. But you 1405 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: can't say, hey, we need an edge rusher. So we're 1406 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: going to get to twenty two, and you know what, 1407 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: let's take the guy we have rated forty first just 1408 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: because we need an edge pass I think you have 1409 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: to be careful about that kind of thing in a draft. 1410 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: I got you, And another conceptual question kind of ramping 1411 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: things up here. Edge rusher's in the draft or in 1412 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 1: free agency, which is a better course in general and 1413 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: maybe for the Buffalo Bills in particular. Well, you always 1414 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 1: have an NFL track record when you're in free agency. 1415 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 1: So it begs the question of, hey, if you sign 1416 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 1: you know in Goakway, you know he can rush the 1417 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. If you sign Quinn, you know 1418 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: he can do that. If you sign you know, as 1419 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 1: much as I like Chasing, for instance, or or anybody 1420 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 1: that we talked about, you don't know specifically that they 1421 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: can do that. Every college player is a projection to 1422 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: some degree, so that that becomes an organizational philosophy kind 1423 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,959 Speaker 1: of thing. Murph, as you know, you know what would 1424 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: you prefer prefer a guy that's done it at the 1425 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 1: NFL level but has some tread on his tires and 1426 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: maybe some baggage, or a younger player who you don't 1427 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: know for sure and you don't know when. So that's 1428 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: that's an organizational decision that's based on on your point 1429 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: of view. And there's a different costs for prat pick 1430 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 1: as opposed to a free agent. Right that helps, no question? 1431 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Settle that question, right, no question? Yep? Hey, great, thanks 1432 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: for this. We'll talk again next Friday as we approach 1433 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: the draft. Thanks very much, Greg, look forward to it, guys. 1434 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. Greg cosal He is senior producer at NFL 1435 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: Films caosed an analysts of NFL matchup on ESPN joining 1436 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: us every Friday now to preview the draft coming up 1437 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,959 Speaker 1: the draft of April twenty third. So we got about 1438 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: that I think six weeks, seven weeks from yesterday. I 1439 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: think it starts edge rusher. It's interesting m edge rushers 1440 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: as valued in the Canadian football league with all that 1441 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 1: passing luke as they are in the NFL. Do you 1442 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 1: think yeah, and I do think you see two different 1443 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 1: body types as well, kind of kind of what Greg's 1444 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: addressing there. And to your answer there, it seems like 1445 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 1: it seems like, who are we talking about the end there? 1446 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: One of our guys here was a Matthew Matthew Judan. 1447 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it answer to your question a little bit of 1448 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: a guy who can do both, it seems like. But 1449 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: I think you do get two different body types. I 1450 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: think that's just the way the game has progressed. You know, 1451 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: it's two different jobs to be done. Um, certainly it's 1452 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: a huge emphasis in the CFL because of the three downs. 1453 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 1: You really need somebody who can get to the quarterback 1454 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 1: because it's three downs. Do you find the defenses rotate 1455 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: D lineman as much as they do in the NFL? 1456 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean the Bills Trent Murphy had the most snaps 1457 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: of any D lineman last year for the Bills. You 1458 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: have like sixty two percent of the snaps. Yeah, I 1459 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: know that in the CFL, not not to that extent. 1460 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: But again, just like and just like here goes team 1461 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 1: by team. You know, coordinator by coordinator, and also depends 1462 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: on who you've who you've spent money on. You know, 1463 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: you gotta if you find yourself with some good young 1464 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 1: players and you who aren't aren't eating up a whole 1465 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: ton of the salary cap, you know you can afford 1466 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,719 Speaker 1: to have a couple of them on the roster. Yeah, 1467 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: we got Luke Tasker in here until three o'clock today. 1468 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Two o'clock we're going to talk about CFL and some 1469 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: of the rules differences between NFL and CFL and what 1470 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 1: might work in the National Football League, and Luke will 1471 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 1: join us for that stick around. We're asking the question 1472 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: on Twitter poll, what's the best recruiting tool the Bills 1473 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 1: have in free agency? What do you think it is. 1474 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: We'll revisit the Twitter poll results, will revisit the tweet 1475 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: sheet and maybe take a phone call or two when 1476 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 1: we come back. Come on back with us. One Bill's 1477 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: Live presented by Colt of Health from the Seneca Studios, 1478 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 1: an Archer Park, Seneca Resorts and Casino. Nothing comes close. 1479 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back, It's One does Live John Murphy with Luke 1480 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 1: Pasker Today. Steve Tasker's replacement is his son. Luke Today 1481 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,600 Speaker 1: got a lot to cover in this territory. Did you 1482 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 1: have it here? Luke? You're doing a great John, I 1483 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 1: think you are. You're doing a heck of a job. 1484 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Half, don't leave me. Let's go to a 1485 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 1: call here, Mike and Wheatfield. Hello, Mike, you're on the air, 1486 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: all right. I have a question. Why doesn't the NFL 1487 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: allow all fifty three players to dress for a game. 1488 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: What's the reason behind that. Well, it has something to 1489 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: do with kind of leavining out the playing field. And 1490 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: the thinking was years ago and it's an old rule, 1491 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 1: but years ago they used to think, uh, let's you know, 1492 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: have seven inactive so that everybody has the same amount 1493 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: of active players, so that a team's not stockpiling something. 1494 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: You know, it levels it out if there's a number 1495 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 1: of injuries on one team or the other. Has to 1496 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: do with decisions being made late in the week as well. 1497 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: You know sometimes it sometimes it takes up until a 1498 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: Friday until teams know who they're gonna address and who's active. 1499 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,599 Speaker 1: It's a it's just a logistical part of the prepping 1500 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: for a game. I think the number did is going 1501 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: to increase with the CBA right too. They're gonna make 1502 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: one offensive lineman and one other player are going to 1503 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: be eligible to be on the game day roster. Yeah. 1504 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 1: But that's why I answer your question, Mike, or there's 1505 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: so many people hurt, you know, towards the end of 1506 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 1: the season. You know. Do they have the same rule 1507 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: a similar rule in the Canadian Football League. Uh? Yeah 1508 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: they do. There's uh, there's I can't remember what it's called, 1509 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 1: but the same thing. There's guys on who are on 1510 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: the on the active roster all week and they're just 1511 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: healthy scratches effectively right before the game is played. Again. 1512 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: It's just because there's so many, so many variables when 1513 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to get a team with all with that 1514 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: many athletes ready for the game, some things can change 1515 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 1: late in a week and uh, and that gives the 1516 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: team's freedom to to sort of get there, get themselves 1517 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,640 Speaker 1: as best they can ready for the game. Thank you, Ye, 1518 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 1: good question. And we're taking your questions now on the 1519 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 1: mail bag. It's our Friday mail bag. Normally, Steve and 1520 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: I will take questions about a variety of topics and 1521 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: you get to set the agenda. We're gonna do it 1522 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 1: with Luke today. Friday mail Bag questions for today, just 1523 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: questions off the top of your head that you want 1524 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: to send in at a number of these on Twitter. 1525 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Let's let's get to it. What do you say, Luke, 1526 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: here's one, Bryant. What are your favorite strategies for an offseason? 1527 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 1: And what should the Bills address? What should the Bills 1528 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 1: address what in free agency? And at what tier? Yeah? 1529 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,799 Speaker 1: Send on the first part of that too, A favorite 1530 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: strategies for an offseason? Well, I think, um, I assume 1531 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 1: that they're they're speaking to the roster development and drafting 1532 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 1: in free agency. But I think that firstly, in general, 1533 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: I would say, you sure up your offensive a defensive line. 1534 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:47,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think you want to go into a 1535 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: season we're think feeling really confident about your front when 1536 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: you take it year, any particularly year like this, you know, 1537 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 1: I can really see the I could really see that 1538 01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 1: the Bills drafting a guy who can start right away 1539 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: at at the wide receiver position. Yeah. Let's get to 1540 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 1: the next one from Mott, be it via draft or 1541 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: free agency. What's the one position of need that would 1542 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 1: most help Josh Allen this year? Thanks guys, let's go Buffalo. 1543 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 1: You know what I think it is? And a wide 1544 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 1: receiver would help. But I do think I think you 1545 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 1: just answered it to offensive lineman would help. What do 1546 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: you think a tackle this year? Yeah, probably a tackle 1547 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 1: and a developmental guy who's gonna start this year and 1548 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,439 Speaker 1: get better and better and better and play for ten years. 1549 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: That would probably help Josh Allen the most. Maybe not 1550 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: this year. And maybe that's where if you want to 1551 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: make that distinction in Mott's question, maybe that's where you 1552 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: would say a wide receiver this year, he can use 1553 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: a wide receiver or two, he can use a dynamic 1554 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 1: deep downfield threat. Yeah, and I think if you're talking 1555 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: you can use an offensive lineman. I think and if 1556 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: you're talking first and second round, I think you're going 1557 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,879 Speaker 1: to get a guy probably at either of those positions 1558 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,640 Speaker 1: that can really impact right away, but certainly later in 1559 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: the draft. I think both of those positions will be 1560 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,040 Speaker 1: will be addressed, and like you said, especially on the 1561 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: offensive line, if he can get a guy who's going 1562 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: to be a real impact in the in the years 1563 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 1: to come. Here's one from Bodo on the Friday Mail back. 1564 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: Besides a quarterback, which positions do the Bills not need 1565 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 1: to address in the first five rounds of the draft. Well, 1566 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: that's an interesting question. Yeah, that is a good one. 1567 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that one to you. How do you think, 1568 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 1: expert I guess I would say safety. You know, they 1569 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,839 Speaker 1: have a hide and player, both pretty solid. Player's contracts 1570 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: coming up, but you can get by with him for 1571 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: another year or two. I would say safety. You don't 1572 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 1: need to address safety in the first five rounds of 1573 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the draft because they have two quality safeties. They have 1574 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Jaquan Williams backing him up if those two can't go 1575 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: too and I think he's he has something. He's gonna 1576 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: have something to say about that position. Not as a starter, 1577 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,640 Speaker 1: but he's gonna be h He's gonna be playing a 1578 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: little bit. It's a good question. So that is a 1579 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 1: good question. Any other positions they don't. I don't think 1580 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 1: they need a kicker. I honestly don't think they need 1581 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 1: a punter. I think Corey Bahrkez did pretty good last 1582 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 1: year as a punter. Trying to think tight end, well, 1583 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 1: if Tyler, if Tyler Craft were healthy all year, I'd 1584 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: be more comfortable saying they don't need a tight end. 1585 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 1: But even so, the first five round, I would think 1586 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: it's unlikely that they addressed that in the first five rounds. 1587 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: It's right, You're right, and there's no dynamic playmaking tight 1588 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,879 Speaker 1: ends available that would I don't think that would merit 1589 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,519 Speaker 1: a first five round selection for the That'd be a surprise, 1590 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 1: I think as well. Good question, though, thanks. Here's one 1591 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 1: from a Lannard. Would you be on board with signing 1592 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady for two years with a shot at winning 1593 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in spite of maybe slowing down Josh 1594 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Allen's progress? Would you? Well, you're just gonna laugh. You 1595 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 1: gotta answer, well, we're gonna get excommunicated from Western New 1596 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: York if we say yes, aren't we. I don't know. 1597 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a I think that's very unlikely. I 1598 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: do too. And no, I would not be on board 1599 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 1: with it, not at all. With a shot at winning 1600 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Don't they have a shot with Josh? 1601 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 1: I think they do. Instead of in spite of maybe 1602 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: slowing down Josh Allen's progress, I don't want to slow 1603 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 1: down his progress. I want him to be good. I 1604 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: want him to be a super Bowl caliber quarterback this 1605 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 1: year or next year. And I also don't think, Yeah, 1606 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we're a team who's in a position 1607 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 1: to make it to make a move like that. I 1608 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,560 Speaker 1: think that we that there's a Josh's already on the 1609 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: way to being established or potentially franchised. And I don't 1610 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: think uh not not the right year and not the 1611 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: right player in Tom Brady, probably for the city. More 1612 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 1: from the Friday mail bank from Martino, can you ask 1613 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Luke if he considered playing in the XFL? Luke, did 1614 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: you consider playing in that? That's interesting, there's a there's 1615 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 1: a lot of uh we were discussing before. There's a 1616 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: lot of coaches, coaches that have made their career from 1617 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 1: the CFL and now have transitioned down to the to 1618 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,719 Speaker 1: the XFL, including Jared Glanville and June Jones and Tressman. 1619 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: And uh not for me only because of injuries. I didn't. 1620 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I really, I really wasn't healthy enough for the start 1621 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: of that season to to to make a move down there. Um, 1622 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: but a couple CFL veterans are are playing down there, 1623 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 1: including a S. J. Green, who's who's a long time 1624 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,879 Speaker 1: All Star and potentially a Hall of Famer in the CFL. 1625 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 1: And he's uh, he made he made the jump down there, 1626 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: and and uh, it's exciting. I mean you catch the 1627 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 1: games on TV. I actually really like, what's the money 1628 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,560 Speaker 1: different CFL versus XFL. Well, I believe the XFL is 1629 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 1: all is all uh even even tiered, right, they're all 1630 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,719 Speaker 1: making the same dollar amount. The exit the the CFL 1631 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: is is you know, you know, free agency is a 1632 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: there's a salary cap. Other than that, the free agency 1633 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: is is an open market. But um, you know, I 1634 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: do think that the league is viable and I do 1635 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 1: think it's competitive. We'll see. Did you ever look at 1636 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: the Alliance of American Football last year's you know, I 1637 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 1: was in. I was in the middle of a good 1638 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: contract with the tie Cats at the time, and so 1639 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't even an option for me. Um, But I 1640 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 1: will say that we did sign a lot of guys 1641 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,799 Speaker 1: to our training camp in Hamilton last year who had 1642 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: been through the the experiment, you know, with the Alliance League, 1643 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 1: and um, a lot of good players came from it. 1644 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 1: I know that they had a lot of you know, 1645 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 1: for whatever reason that it didn't work out, money and 1646 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 1: all the rest, but they did have they did have 1647 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 1: some athletes down there. Hey, look what's um, I don't 1648 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,799 Speaker 1: know the answer this question, and I asked this, Uh, 1649 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 1: in a straightforward manner. But what percentage of CFL players 1650 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: do you think entertain NFL um aspirations? One hundred percent, 1651 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 1: fifty percent. I would say it's close to one hundred percent. 1652 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: I think that I can say this, one hundred percent 1653 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,400 Speaker 1: of the Americans who go up to the Canadian Football League, 1654 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,600 Speaker 1: most of which got cutting an NFL training camp, one 1655 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent of them intend to go back to the NFL. UM. 1656 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 1: The option never becomes available for so many guys. I mean, 1657 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 1: in order to make that transition back to the NFL, 1658 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: you have to you have to establish yourself as you 1659 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,920 Speaker 1: have to be successful in the NFL. Most times, I 1660 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: have seen cases where guys that will even get cut 1661 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,639 Speaker 1: from their CFL camp and end up on an NFL 1662 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: roster in the future. Again, you know, it's you know, 1663 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 1: every team has different needs. But for the most part, UM, 1664 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 1: guys are trying to Guys are trying to uh you know, 1665 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 1: play again down in the American Football League for the 1666 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,600 Speaker 1: money and because we all grew up wanting to be 1667 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 1: NFL football players. Um. There is a number of guys 1668 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 1: like myself who end up really enjoying the uh this 1669 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: the CFL and and finding a finding a home there, 1670 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 1: um as well? What's the percentage of American players per team? 1671 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 1: Isn't there a limit? Right? Yeah, it's about half of 1672 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 1: every of every roster the the CFL. Part of the 1673 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 1: collective bart agreement up there is, um they want the 1674 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 1: league to maintain its Canadian identity and that you can 1675 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,439 Speaker 1: understand that is very important. You know, it would start 1676 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 1: to lose sort of its uh importance to the to 1677 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 1: the culture and to the tradition if it if it 1678 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: became only Americans. Uh, it's about half the roster is Canadian, 1679 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,639 Speaker 1: half American, and uh you know, actually there's a lot 1680 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: of great Canadian talent up there as well. It's at 1681 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,559 Speaker 1: a premium, right, I mean there's a you know, the 1682 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 1: whole country is the population is similar to the population 1683 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 1: in California, right, So it's just a less a smaller 1684 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,920 Speaker 1: pool of athletes, but there's some great talents and the 1685 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,360 Speaker 1: guys who are the Canadians who are all stars up there, 1686 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 1: those are the guys who who really, um you know, 1687 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 1: end up being a face of the whole league and 1688 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 1: an identity for the country sports and for Canadian born 1689 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: and bred players. What percentage you think play American college football, 1690 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: I would put it at about half. The CIS is 1691 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,640 Speaker 1: the is the college football system up there. It's not 1692 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,720 Speaker 1: like the NC Double A. But I and I think 1693 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 1: that for the most part, there's a number of guys 1694 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,080 Speaker 1: who are there's some good programs up there, and so 1695 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 1: they start they start getting an idea in high school 1696 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: that they have a chance to play there, and they'll 1697 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 1: do that. But a lot of guys, uh, when they start, 1698 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, recognizing that something they want to do professionally 1699 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 1: or at the next level at least, they start looking 1700 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: for uh for the NC Double A UH programs a lot. 1701 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 1: And I've I've had a lot of Canadian teammates who 1702 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 1: played high level NC Double A football. Um, Duke Williams, 1703 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 1: you were familiar. Yeah, and what do you think of 1704 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 1: his rookie year in the NFL with the Bills. Yeah, 1705 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 1: you know, he was a he was a guy who 1706 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 1: made uh. He worked hard to get himself to where 1707 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 1: he was and I think that early on in his 1708 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 1: in the training camp and OTAs with the Bills last year, UM, 1709 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he was given much of a of 1710 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 1: a chance to succeed and he uh for for it 1711 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: was all it was all based on his own work 1712 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 1: ethic and his own his own attitude that he made 1713 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: it into what to what it was for him. It's 1714 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 1: a it's a credit to him. He did the same 1715 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 1: thing in the CFL too, I mean he was he 1716 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 1: was brought up there with a handful. Every year, there's 1717 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,240 Speaker 1: a handfuls and handfuls of guys who get cut from 1718 01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 1: NFL camps and not all of them can play, can 1719 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 1: make it up there. Um, there's just not enough jobs 1720 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: and it's a competitive environment. And he uh was an 1721 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 1: immediate All star there and uh, you know, I think 1722 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,600 Speaker 1: he had a chip on a shoulder to prove that 1723 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: he could play, that he could be an NFL receiver. Again, 1724 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 1: another guy I want to ask you about. You may 1725 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 1: or may not know of him, but Maddie Glab did 1726 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 1: a story about Neville Gallimore at the Combine last week. 1727 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 1: He's from Saint Catherine's played at Oklahoma. Or not from 1728 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 1: Saint Katherine's. He's from Ottawa, but played at Canadian Prep 1729 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: Academy in Saint Katherine's. That's he's already made a big 1730 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 1: jump to play at Oklahoma. And oh yeah, he will 1731 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 1: be drafted a big defensive tackle. Nobody knows quite where yet, 1732 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 1: but he will be drafted every every maybe every other year. 1733 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: So it seems like there's a high level of Canadian prospect. 1734 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 1: There's been a number of guys who I mean, you 1735 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 1: think these these players careers are sort of destined to 1736 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 1: end in the CFL, right and because they're going to 1737 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 1: be a Canadian, they'll be part of they'll be uh, 1738 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, get back to their to their hometown league 1739 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: when their options in the NFL run out. And a 1740 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,600 Speaker 1: few of these guys you actually see are able to 1741 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,720 Speaker 1: play out an entire career in the NFL. Um and uh, 1742 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 1: he seems like, you know, everyone in southern Ontario has 1743 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 1: knows of him as a prospect and hopefully he gets 1744 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 1: a good shot down here. Let's take another call. Here's 1745 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Charlie in Buffalo. Hello, Charlotte, you around the air. I'll 1746 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 1: go after John the Luke how WHI is today? Good? 1747 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: I want to ask the question to Luke. The Bills 1748 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,800 Speaker 1: played over there for a while, then it stopped. They 1749 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: were like a neutral sight game. They were playing over 1750 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,639 Speaker 1: there and it stopped. Do you see any the Toronto series? Charlie, 1751 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 1: what you're talking about? Pardon John, you're talking about the 1752 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 1: games in Toronto. Yeah, the games in Toronto when they 1753 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 1: when they stopped playing there. I ask a question to 1754 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: Luke is do you see any other neutral site teams, 1755 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: like any other NFL teams going in the Toronto and 1756 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 1: maybe in the Vancouver playing you over there maybe once 1757 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: or twice a year to try to promote the NFL 1758 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 1: like they do in Europe. And they have the Mexican 1759 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,639 Speaker 1: game they played. Do you see that happening in Canada? 1760 01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,559 Speaker 1: I think that I believe it was green Bay maybe 1761 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: played in Winnipeg last year for a preseason game here. 1762 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,720 Speaker 1: And there's always been talk of Detroit to us because 1763 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,960 Speaker 1: it's proximity to to Ontario there as well. Yeah, yeah, 1764 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 1: I do you as you travel across when I'm as 1765 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 1: I'm traveling across Canada for these games, there is there 1766 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 1: is NFL following there. You have your you have your 1767 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: Seattle ends when you go out west, and you do 1768 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,360 Speaker 1: see a little bit of Green Bay when you're in 1769 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: the planes there. Um, you know, I could see it happening. Sure. 1770 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I think that Toronto is obviously a great h you know, 1771 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 1: a potential city for that, But I don't think that 1772 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 1: there is a you know, there was so much talk 1773 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: for a while about the future of the Bills, and 1774 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad that that that never became permanent. And I 1775 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: don't really see that happening because I can't imagine an 1776 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 1: NFL city that's going to that's going to be less 1777 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 1: appropriate for that team than Toronto. You know, Toronto already 1778 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 1: has all of its huge sporting sports teams, and to 1779 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 1: be honest, it's not exactly does not have the feel 1780 01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 1: of a football city, certainly, not like Buffalo, certainly, not 1781 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 1: like these these other NFL cities. So you know, the 1782 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 1: exhibition games and the one time events I think are 1783 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 1: great to spread a little interest in the NFL, but 1784 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 1: they and they do have a following up there, Luke, 1785 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 1: is there any CFL stadium that you think would be 1786 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 1: particularly attracted to the NFL? I don't think. I think 1787 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,519 Speaker 1: part of the problem with Toronto was the stadium, quite frankly, 1788 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,880 Speaker 1: But is there a place maybe it's even Hamilton with 1789 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,000 Speaker 1: a fairly new stadium, right, it's smaller, but it's new. Yeah, 1790 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 1: But is there any particular stadium that you think the 1791 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,400 Speaker 1: NFL would fit into in Canada? I do, and a 1792 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,559 Speaker 1: lot of the stadiums out West for the CFL are 1793 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 1: all smaller. There's the Hamilton we sit thirty thousand. I 1794 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: think in Toronto they played the Bills used to play 1795 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,519 Speaker 1: at the Roger Center there and it is anyone who's 1796 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 1: watched a football game there, that's where the Argonauts used 1797 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 1: to play. Uh and it's not a great facility to 1798 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 1: watch football. Yeah, bmo on the Sucker Field, which is 1799 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 1: a nice facility actually and it's it's grass and they 1800 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 1: actually are they do a great job there. Um. But 1801 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: out west, the stadiums are are pretty substantial. Saskatchewan has 1802 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: a has a new stadium that's very very nice, very 1803 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 1: nicely done, and the amendees for the fans and also 1804 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,840 Speaker 1: for the sort of viewing and playing experience. I could 1805 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 1: see that being it. But the problem is the Saskatchewan 1806 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 1: rough Riders fans are a breed of their own. I mean, 1807 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 1: they wouldn't let another team in there and think the 1808 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 1: uh and then out in Vancouver, Yeah, you're going to 1809 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,040 Speaker 1: say the problem is it's Saskatchewan. That's another issue too. Yeah, 1810 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 1: you're out in the middle of nowhere, you know, Gina, Saskatchewan. 1811 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 1: But uh No, that's some beautiful stadiums out west. They're 1812 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,680 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger um and then BC Place has 1813 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,640 Speaker 1: always there's always been talks of their talks about any 1814 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things that could that could happen home 1815 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 1: some place. Yeah, it's a dome. It was for the 1816 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Olympics and it is nice too, but it is aging. 1817 01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:18,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's interesting. Of the nine teams, I think, uh, 1818 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: I guess I think four of the of the nine 1819 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 1: teams have a new stadium since the time I've played 1820 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:24,760 Speaker 1: in the CFL, so there's a lot of a lot 1821 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: of activity. And where they playing in Montreal Montrealal is 1822 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,680 Speaker 1: at McGill McGill State. That's one of the oldest in 1823 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 1: the league. That is the worst visitors locker room I've 1824 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 1: ever been been privileged to uh in what they grew 1825 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 1: up in h cements. It's like, you know, it's a 1826 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 1: little it's kind of like Qualcom in San Diego actually, 1827 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 1: which is another one I've been been able to play in, 1828 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 1: but just an old concrete structure. It is great. The 1829 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 1: one thing about Montreal is that it's right in the 1830 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,360 Speaker 1: middle of downtown and Montreal's a beautiful city, so you 1831 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 1: get to uh experience that a little bit. You Dad 1832 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 1: and I were talking there's gonna be a new CFL 1833 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,919 Speaker 1: team I think next year in the in the Atlantic Primacies, 1834 01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 1: right in Monkton, New Brunswick. I'm not sure. I don't 1835 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,560 Speaker 1: know if it's positive yet or not there but that 1836 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 1: but that's the next when the league is ready to 1837 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 1: expand that's where that's where they've said that's going to 1838 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 1: go to. So they're going to get out into monkedin 1839 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 1: way out east. So the farthest east we go right 1840 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,599 Speaker 1: now is Montreal and Ottawa. But that would be great. 1841 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 1: I think that from what they you know, from what 1842 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,680 Speaker 1: the league is saying, there's enough interest out there. Um, 1843 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,560 Speaker 1: and when that happens, i'd be a great There'll be 1844 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,880 Speaker 1: another great addition to beautiful. I don't know if there's 1845 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 1: I told you I spent some time last summer Prince 1846 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Edward Island. Yeah, beautiful. I don't think there's enough people 1847 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 1: there forever well, I think I think that's the worry. 1848 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I think that there's interest, but I don't know how 1849 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,600 Speaker 1: many people are going to be able to support a 1850 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 1: franchise out there. But supposedly that supposedly it's underway to happen. 1851 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll be next year or the 1852 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 1: year after that, but it's in the works. Yep. That's 1853 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: a Friday mail bag where we answer your questions about 1854 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 1: a variety of topics. Thanks for sending them In're gonna 1855 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,600 Speaker 1: get back to our topic of the day. What do 1856 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,679 Speaker 1: the Bills have in their back pocket? Is their best 1857 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 1: recruiting tool for free agents? We'll talk about that when 1858 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 1: we return. Eighth three five fifty toll free one eight 1859 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,880 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. It's One Bill's 1860 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 1: Live John Murphy with Luke Tasker from the Seneca Studio 1861 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:15,719 Speaker 1: in Orchard Park, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome 1862 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,560 Speaker 1: back One Day's Live John Murphy with Luke Fasker in 1863 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,559 Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker, and Steve is back next Tuesday. Chris 1864 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Brown does the show with us on Monday, talking about 1865 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 1: abriety of topics. Coming up at two a couple of 1866 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: minutes away, we're gonna talk with the man who runs 1867 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 1: officiating for the Canadian Football League, Darren Darren Heckwood. Heckwood, 1868 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 1: Oh sounds like an official. Hey, there's this came across 1869 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,519 Speaker 1: the wire today. Patrick Mahomes interview on HBO's The Shop 1870 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 1: talking about look the guy's been an MVP in the league, 1871 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,680 Speaker 1: and he's been the Super Bowl MVP, and yet he 1872 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: says he did not understand how to read defenses until 1873 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 1: halfway through last year. It says he's still learning, still 1874 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,679 Speaker 1: picking up the finer points of the quarterback position. He said, 1875 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 1: I was just playing. Really, I didn't know how to 1876 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 1: read defenses until midway through this past year. Where's he going? 1877 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you said, you said, that's not that unusual 1878 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to NFL quarterbacks. Huh. I mean, it 1879 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 1: still is surprising because he is an MVP. But it 1880 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,280 Speaker 1: really goes to show what when when people say this 1881 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 1: guy's a gamer or this guy's a winner like that, 1882 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 1: that is a real as a real attribute that these 1883 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have, including him. I mean, it wasn't just his 1884 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 1: It's not He's not winning the game with some superhuman 1885 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 1: level of knowledge about the game of football. And some 1886 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,479 Speaker 1: guys and there are there is that too, I mean, 1887 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, and that's the veterans and the guys who 1888 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,800 Speaker 1: have you know, the Peyton Mannings and Tom Brady's of 1889 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 1: the world. But the uh, this brings to mind a 1890 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 1: story I was told of Brett Farve, where who is 1891 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 1: Brett Fav's first backup when he came to league, like 1892 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Norm Berry or Norm Berry or something like that with 1893 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: Green Bay and Okay, Brett Farve after a second year 1894 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 1: he said, he goes, say, who, what the heck is 1895 01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,640 Speaker 1: a nickel player? What's a Barris? Are you kidding me? 1896 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,519 Speaker 1: Right now? I mean he's just a winner, a guy 1897 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 1: who knows how to just U just had you know, 1898 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,400 Speaker 1: see it, see it live. But I wonder if Patrick 1899 01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,680 Speaker 1: Mahomes feels a level of comfort after and you know 1900 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 1: if I guess if he's if he's learning and growing 1901 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 1: in that in an intellectual sense, uh sense now, but 1902 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. I think it must be surprising to people 1903 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,480 Speaker 1: who probably think he has an unbelievable grasp of provinces. 1904 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: You know what. It's it's amazing that he could feel 1905 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 1: And he didn't say he felt uncomfortable, but said he's 1906 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,679 Speaker 1: going to be better once he learns how to readefense. 1907 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 1: Is look what he's done without having that skill, And basically, 1908 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,599 Speaker 1: I guess you have to say he's done it mostly 1909 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 1: with physical ability, right with his ability to evade the 1910 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 1: pass for us to deliver the ball on time to 1911 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,080 Speaker 1: open targets and he's done that without understanding. He says 1912 01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: exactly what he's seen sometimes that he sort of always 1913 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,479 Speaker 1: had that no look pass and things like that that 1914 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,519 Speaker 1: are that strike. He was just so savvy and that's 1915 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,960 Speaker 1: just his athleticism, you know, coming out it seems like, 1916 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,840 Speaker 1: and it makes you wonder, especially in the nc double A, 1917 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,839 Speaker 1: how many, how many of these successful quarterbacks can truly 1918 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, dissect defenses. We only have about thirty seconds 1919 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 1: left here. But you mentioned a good point about the 1920 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming out of college, and it has always seemed 1921 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 1: to me that the Canadian Football League, where you've spent 1922 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 1: seven years, eagerly adapted their game to these the skills 1923 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,240 Speaker 1: of the college quarterbacks. And now maybe the NFL's catching 1924 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 1: up to that. I wonder you might be right, and 1925 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 1: certainly the young generation quarterbacks, you know, sort of fall 1926 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,759 Speaker 1: into that same mold. I'm thinking of a guy conradge Holloway, 1927 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 1: he played with the Toronto Argonauts twenty five thirty years ago, 1928 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: who could not play in the NFL because he had 1929 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,799 Speaker 1: a certain skill set that did not translate to the NFL. 1930 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 1: Toronto Argos had him. He played well there, and there 1931 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,280 Speaker 1: have been more guys like that in the CFL, right, 1932 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: or guys adapted their game to what position these guys 1933 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,000 Speaker 1: can play, and especially for the quarterbacks they get, you know, 1934 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,920 Speaker 1: they can make a high dollar up in the CFL too, 1935 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 1: and so you get some guys that just make a 1936 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 1: make a name up there. Yeah, we're gonna talk about 1937 01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,920 Speaker 1: the Canadian Football League. Luke Tasker has played there for 1938 01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,400 Speaker 1: seven years. We're gonna talk with Darren Heckwood when we 1939 01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 1: come back. He's director of officiating for the Canadian Football 1940 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,400 Speaker 1: What rules are they have in the CFL that might 1941 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,760 Speaker 1: play well in the NFL. We'll talk about that. Come 1942 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,760 Speaker 1: on back with us. One Bill's Live presented by Collat 1943 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,400 Speaker 1: of Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park, and 1944 01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network Sports Update. 1945 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,680 Speaker 1: The update comes from One Bill's Drive and it's the 1946 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,559 Speaker 1: One Bills Live Sports Update. The NFL players are voting 1947 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,600 Speaker 1: right now. They have until next Thursday at midnight to 1948 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,960 Speaker 1: either approve or not approve the new collective Bargaining Agreement. 1949 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick announced today that he will be 1950 01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,920 Speaker 1: voting yes on the new CBA that was sent out 1951 01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 1: the players yesterday. That makes Fits the most prominent player 1952 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: to publicly announce a yes vote for the CBA sent 1953 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 1: He sent a video to ESPN's Trade Wingo detailing why 1954 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,839 Speaker 1: he is confident in his vote. Washington Redskins have decided 1955 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 1: to allow offensive lineman Trent Williams permission to seek a trade. 1956 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,800 Speaker 1: He says he's happy about that. He's happy at the 1957 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: time of the Redskins will be ending soon. Williams has 1958 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,080 Speaker 1: been at odds with the organization for most of the 1959 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,960 Speaker 1: last year about concerns over how they handled his medical condition. 1960 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,559 Speaker 1: Trent Williams now free to go in a trade. Marty 1961 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,639 Speaker 1: morning Weight going back to the Philadelphia Eagles. He will 1962 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,160 Speaker 1: serve as their senior offensive assistant consultant to head coach 1963 01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. Peterson will be able to draw on morning 1964 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 1: Wegg's wealth of experience two years as head coach of 1965 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,800 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and a three year stint as the 1966 01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:30,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator. San Francisco forty nine ers getting 1967 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 1: busy over the last two days. They have exercise options 1968 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,480 Speaker 1: for fullback Kyle use Check and quarterback go On Williams. 1969 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,000 Speaker 1: They have tendered five exclusive rights free agents. The forty 1970 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,719 Speaker 1: nineers have also been involved in trade talks for wide 1971 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 1: receiver Marquis Goodwood has been around the forty nine ers 1972 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,919 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Goodwin, former Buffalo Bill receivers 1973 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,240 Speaker 1: deep threat, played nine games in twenty nineteen for the Niners, 1974 01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,920 Speaker 1: went on an injury reserve with the knee injury. He 1975 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,040 Speaker 1: had only twelve catches last year, but in twenty seventeen 1976 01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,679 Speaker 1: he busted out for nine hundred and sixty two yards. 1977 01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,320 Speaker 1: He's been played by injuries the last few years. Jets 1978 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Quinnon Williams arrested last night at LaGuardia Airport 1979 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,479 Speaker 1: for attempting to board a flight with a weapon in 1980 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,439 Speaker 1: his hand, carrying a gun with an Alabama permit. The 1981 01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 1: former Alabama star grew up in Birmingham, Alabama. No permit 1982 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,360 Speaker 1: in New York State, That's why he was arrested. Hockey 1983 01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 1: News Hall of Fame center Henri Richard has died at 1984 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,200 Speaker 1: d ajighty four eleven Stanley Cups won the most by 1985 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,599 Speaker 1: any player, and the Savers in action again tomorrow night 1986 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,680 Speaker 1: at Philadelphia. They lost last night to Pittsburgh by a 1987 01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,720 Speaker 1: score of four to two. It is our number three 1988 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,960 Speaker 1: of the show, John Murphy and Luke Tasker. Luke's in 1989 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,599 Speaker 1: for his father Steve Tasker today. Happy to have him 1990 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,599 Speaker 1: with us, and Luke of course has played seven years 1991 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 1: in the Canadian Football League with a Hamilton Tiger Cats. 1992 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,799 Speaker 1: We thought, we know, there's some good ideas in the CFL, 1993 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,439 Speaker 1: some good players and some good ideas, including some of 1994 01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 1: the officiating moves. And we've got the man on right now, 1995 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,200 Speaker 1: the senior director of Officiating for the Canadian Football League, 1996 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 1: director of football Operations and officiating in the CFL for 1997 01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,360 Speaker 1: five years. Happy to have Darren Hackwood on the line 1998 01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,320 Speaker 1: with us. Darren, John Murphy and Luke Tasker here in Buffalo. 1999 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,720 Speaker 1: Thanks coming on with us today. Thanks for having me. 2000 01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,559 Speaker 1: Guys doing We're doing well. We're doing well. Tell us 2001 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,760 Speaker 1: what is there? I know there's three downs and there's 2002 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,479 Speaker 1: a bigger field, but there are more subtle differences about 2003 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 1: CFL rules including where you are where the replay? Where 2004 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,120 Speaker 1: are you with the use of replaying the Canadian Football 2005 01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: League daring. Yeah, So we're we're we're kind of I 2006 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,720 Speaker 1: think six or seven years deep now with with some 2007 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,960 Speaker 1: judgment calls that we've added to replay mainly pass interference. 2008 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,560 Speaker 1: We have two officials. We have a replay official and 2009 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,240 Speaker 1: a video official. And our video official basically is just 2010 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,599 Speaker 1: kind of an extension of the on field crew, so 2011 01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:40,160 Speaker 1: they help out with pelony applications, spots, uh, those sorts 2012 01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,599 Speaker 1: of kind of administrative items, and then our replay official 2013 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,559 Speaker 1: deals with all the coaches challenges and the automatic reviews 2014 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,320 Speaker 1: uh you know, around the goal line, out of bounds 2015 01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: and those sorts of things as well. So yeah, it's 2016 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,000 Speaker 1: kind of where we are now, and the replay official 2017 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,519 Speaker 1: is on site. They're not going to Toronto or Hamilton 2018 01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,840 Speaker 1: for a review, right, No, we are. We are going. 2019 01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:59,759 Speaker 1: We do have a command center. It is in Toronto 2020 01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 1: U and they have a direct connection with all the 2021 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 1: on field officials at field level. But we do have 2022 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 1: a command center similar to uh the other leagues. Darren 2023 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,400 Speaker 1: take us through the last couple of seasons and the 2024 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,680 Speaker 1: progression of the challenge rules. I remember one at one 2025 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:18,200 Speaker 1: point during during my time with Hamilton, it was a 2026 01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 1: little bit um, a little bit out of hand that 2027 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,720 Speaker 1: the amount of challenges that were being sure done in 2028 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,200 Speaker 1: the game, we're sort of slowing it down. Can you 2029 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,599 Speaker 1: speak to sort of how that's evolved. Yeah, So when 2030 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 1: we first we originally brought la pass an appearance into 2031 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,960 Speaker 1: being challengeable, and then a year after that we brought 2032 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:38,759 Speaker 1: illegal contact, so you know, basically defensive holding and illegal 2033 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,760 Speaker 1: contact to be challengeable, and that's kind of where we 2034 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,639 Speaker 1: started to see we've we've gone too far. So our 2035 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 1: coaches had similar rules where they had two challenges that 2036 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 1: they got both correct, they got a third challenge and 2037 01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 1: there's enough gray area contact down field that our coaches 2038 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,440 Speaker 1: were using these challenges on a legal contact and specifically, 2039 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:01,559 Speaker 1: you know, we'd have a big play, we'd have an 2040 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,600 Speaker 1: interception and we'd see a challenge flight come out for 2041 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 1: an illegal contact call on the opposite side of the field, 2042 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,840 Speaker 1: and it was it was really hand handcuffing our officials 2043 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,360 Speaker 1: who kind of felt forced to call those things when 2044 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 1: it really didn't have any impact on the play. So thankfully, 2045 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,200 Speaker 1: our rules committee you know, voted to remove illegal contact 2046 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,400 Speaker 1: as a challengeable aspect, and then we took a further 2047 01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,639 Speaker 1: step and we've taken some challenge challenges back from coaches. 2048 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,839 Speaker 1: So now as it's if they have one one challenge, 2049 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:30,880 Speaker 1: if they get that one right, they get a second 2050 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 1: challenge and then we cut it off there. So we've 2051 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,519 Speaker 1: seen a reduction and challenges and of course by removing 2052 01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,760 Speaker 1: the illegal contact foul, you know, I think we're doing 2053 01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,719 Speaker 1: a better job from the booth. Well, Darren, what fouls 2054 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,679 Speaker 1: are reviewable under instant replay in the Canadian Football League 2055 01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,200 Speaker 1: is it just pass interference alone? So we got past interference, 2056 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,719 Speaker 1: we have offensive pass interference, so kind of both of those. 2057 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,519 Speaker 1: The big the big one that that I think has 2058 01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,400 Speaker 1: been beneficial for us is roughing the passer is challengeable 2059 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,640 Speaker 1: um and and that that kind of allows us to 2060 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:05,960 Speaker 1: make sure we're capturing you know a lot of those 2061 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,639 Speaker 1: those palonies um. A legal block called the legal block 2062 01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,639 Speaker 1: on a kick return, you can challenge one if it's 2063 01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,280 Speaker 1: been called uh that that's you know, you get you 2064 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 1: get a run back for a touchdown. And we've called 2065 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,240 Speaker 1: an the legal block. A coach might want to challenge 2066 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,280 Speaker 1: that to make sure that it's there um and no 2067 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,679 Speaker 1: yards or no yards palony or five yard halo um. 2068 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,559 Speaker 1: You know, when the ball's punted, the kicking team has 2069 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,120 Speaker 1: to give five yards to the to the receiver for 2070 01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:35,560 Speaker 1: covering the ball. So that's that's challengeable as well, um, so, 2071 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,960 Speaker 1: so we've limited it to to really just that that 2072 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,519 Speaker 1: group of penonies, and then of course all the other 2073 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,240 Speaker 1: common reviewable aspects that you would find in other leagues, 2074 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, catch, no catch, touchdown, those sorts of things. 2075 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,599 Speaker 1: You know, you bring up an important distinction too, Darren 2076 01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,760 Speaker 1: about called penalties as opposed to penalties not called. In 2077 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 1: other words, can you initiate a replay review to get 2078 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,799 Speaker 1: a penalty called when no flag was thrown? The NFL's 2079 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,439 Speaker 1: replay on passion of parrences, you're allowed that to happen. 2080 01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,680 Speaker 1: The CFL does not allow that to happen, but we do. 2081 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 1: We do for passers pastor parents. You can challenge a 2082 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,240 Speaker 1: play that wasn't called on the field for passing. It 2083 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,360 Speaker 1: was the it was the uh, you know, defensive holding 2084 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 1: down field that really slowed the games down for us 2085 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,960 Speaker 1: last year because, like Darren said, we're talking about a 2086 01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:23,120 Speaker 1: totally unrelated, unrelated offense on the other side of the field. 2087 01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:24,840 Speaker 1: And I remember we would be having we would have 2088 01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,479 Speaker 1: you know, signals to our to the booth upstairs, you know, 2089 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,479 Speaker 1: if if we needed if we needed a call at 2090 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 1: a time. You know, it's actually pretty easy to find 2091 01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 1: one somewhere on the field, and if you can challenge 2092 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,759 Speaker 1: anything at any time, then it was that was certainly 2093 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:41,200 Speaker 1: sort of slowing things down, uh, Darren, with the progression 2094 01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,600 Speaker 1: of the challenges and with the rules. How do you 2095 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,800 Speaker 1: see the current status of the league? Do you see 2096 01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,760 Speaker 1: or can you sense anything that's going to definitely change 2097 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,720 Speaker 1: for this coming season? Yeah, I don't think so. I 2098 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,479 Speaker 1: don't think any major changes are coming along. You know, 2099 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 1: we we continue obviously to tinker with with with rules 2100 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,320 Speaker 1: and standards as far as replay, and you know, whether 2101 01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,800 Speaker 1: or not we we shy away from the clear and 2102 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 1: obvious termination back to kind of get it right, because 2103 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,320 Speaker 1: those are two two different things when you're in the booth, 2104 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,680 Speaker 1: if you know, are you trying to get the call right? 2105 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,400 Speaker 1: Are you trying to only overturn something that's clearly wrong? 2106 01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,479 Speaker 1: So those are those are two different things, and it 2107 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 1: kind of fluctuates back and forth, you know, depending on 2108 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,720 Speaker 1: the different pressures in the off season. So we'll see 2109 01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,080 Speaker 1: if we have any changes there. Um. You know, we 2110 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,680 Speaker 1: we quite obviously went too far with replay with with 2111 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,960 Speaker 1: respect to the legal contact and defensive holding as we 2112 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 1: talked about, So you know, we're conscious now of of 2113 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,479 Speaker 1: not of not doing that. You know, we don't want 2114 01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,439 Speaker 1: to do something just for the sake of doing it, 2115 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,880 Speaker 1: So it's more about kind of finding, you know, what's 2116 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:44,720 Speaker 1: the right balance between getting it right and impacting the 2117 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 1: game flow and blowing the game down on all those 2118 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,120 Speaker 1: things that are really important to a lot of people. 2119 01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's a bit of a balance. And darn, 2120 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,880 Speaker 1: did you follow the NFL struggles with using replay on 2121 01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:01,120 Speaker 1: paths interferences past year a little bit? I didn't. I didn't. 2122 01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,600 Speaker 1: I didn't watch too much this year. Um, you know, 2123 01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,240 Speaker 1: with a small kid at home, if I try to 2124 01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 1: put a football game on after the CFL weeks over, 2125 01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:12,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't. Um. But but obviously read some stuff and 2126 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,920 Speaker 1: I have, you know, relationships with people in that league 2127 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,000 Speaker 1: as well. So uh. And it's it's very similar too 2128 01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,360 Speaker 1: to what we went through, you know. And and it's 2129 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:25,360 Speaker 1: a very difficult thing. It's you know, calling past interference 2130 01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:28,640 Speaker 1: from a from a TV screen is very different than 2131 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,200 Speaker 1: calling it on the field, and trying to get both 2132 01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:35,680 Speaker 1: those things to the same consistent place is very difficult, um, 2133 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,679 Speaker 1: you know. And it's it's we still haven't we still 2134 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:40,960 Speaker 1: haven't completely sorted it out and we're at year seven, 2135 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, like I feel, I feel like we're in 2136 01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: a much better place in year seven than we were 2137 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,240 Speaker 1: year one. But it's it's it's it's not perfect yet. 2138 01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,400 Speaker 1: So the U Darren another another interesting place where the 2139 01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,519 Speaker 1: rules sort of coming to play, specifically in the difference 2140 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,200 Speaker 1: between CFL and NFL is and special teams. Can you 2141 01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:58,800 Speaker 1: talk a little bit, It seems like in the seven 2142 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,760 Speaker 1: years that I've been in the CFL, know, the the 2143 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:05,040 Speaker 1: awareness and the importance of player safety and special teams 2144 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,040 Speaker 1: has really taken has really made an effect on the rules. 2145 01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,720 Speaker 1: Can you speak to that a little bit? Yeah, So 2146 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:14,040 Speaker 1: special special teams are. It's an interesting it's an interesting 2147 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,840 Speaker 1: fast to the game because you know up here, you know, 2148 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,080 Speaker 1: you can make the argument that it's it's more important 2149 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,479 Speaker 1: because with three downs, I think we average about five 2150 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:26,000 Speaker 1: more punts a game something something in that neighborhood. Yeah, um, 2151 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,760 Speaker 1: and larger field so so so it's a bit a 2152 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 1: bit of a larger part of our game up here. Um, 2153 01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,280 Speaker 1: And it is it is. You know, we do see 2154 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 1: injuries on special teams plays like you would in any 2155 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,720 Speaker 1: real sport where you have athletes trying to you know, 2156 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,439 Speaker 1: run as fast as they can essentially over a distance. 2157 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 1: You know, you get injuries. So trying to trying to 2158 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,080 Speaker 1: kind of dig through the rules to make it safer 2159 01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,040 Speaker 1: is something that we're always conscious of. But uh, you know, 2160 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,479 Speaker 1: with with our kickers, we have we we've increased our 2161 01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,200 Speaker 1: protection on our kickers. With the long snapper, we've we've 2162 01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,599 Speaker 1: increased our protection of a long snapper. Um. You know, 2163 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 1: we basically call players safety fouls. Some special teams pretty 2164 01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,559 Speaker 1: tight with regards to um. You know, spearing, blindside blocks, 2165 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,400 Speaker 1: those sorts of things. Those are what we would look 2166 01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:16,080 Speaker 1: at from as the shading perspective. Murph, I wonder what 2167 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 1: my dad would would think of this rule in the 2168 01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 1: cfldre in the new rule in the CFL to protect 2169 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,599 Speaker 1: the punters, even if you block the punt, you still 2170 01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,120 Speaker 1: are responsible to avoid the plant leg of the kickers. 2171 01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 1: That right, Yeah, that's right. So we went back and 2172 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:34,120 Speaker 1: we watched every block punt over I want to say, 2173 01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,720 Speaker 1: four or five seasons, and there really was only a 2174 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,479 Speaker 1: handful where someone got a piece of the ball and 2175 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 1: still plowed through the plant leg. Most most of the 2176 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,240 Speaker 1: block punts we were seeing the CFL we're coming through 2177 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, the gaps next to the long snap or 2178 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,360 Speaker 1: up the middle, and they were kind of getting the 2179 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,240 Speaker 1: ball and then contacting you know, the midsection of the 2180 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 1: kicker or kind of just knocking into the ground but 2181 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,360 Speaker 1: not plowing through that plant leg. Yeah, but we did 2182 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,360 Speaker 1: have a couple high profile ones that and one that 2183 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,200 Speaker 1: led to an injury a couple of years ago where 2184 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,200 Speaker 1: someone basically just got the tips of their finger on 2185 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 1: the ball and then kind of rolled through that kickers 2186 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,559 Speaker 1: plant leg and cause an injury. And we're kind of like, well, 2187 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 1: just because you got fingers on the ball, shouldn't give 2188 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,680 Speaker 1: you that that launch point, you know, that authority to 2189 01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of blow up the kickers plant leg. So that's 2190 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,880 Speaker 1: why we went down that road. It has been, you know, 2191 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,559 Speaker 1: a minor adjustment, I think, because it just really like 2192 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's a big, big deal, a big adjustment, 2193 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,600 Speaker 1: but it just really wasn't happening that much. So we 2194 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen too much of an impact with respect to 2195 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,360 Speaker 1: the number of block punts yet. Okay, Live on the 2196 01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 1: Line with Darren Heckwood. He is a director officiating Senior 2197 01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,559 Speaker 1: Director of Officiating in the Canadian Football League Darren, let 2198 01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,559 Speaker 1: me let me run a scenario by you. I am 2199 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:52,719 Speaker 1: not a replay proponent. When I see the NFL trying 2200 01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 1: to employee replay for pass deference this year and the 2201 01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 1: way that on field during the course of the season, 2202 01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,479 Speaker 1: the officials just stopped calling it. And when I hear 2203 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, you guys have into adjust it. 2204 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,360 Speaker 1: Now seven straight years, you've backed off a little bit. 2205 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you shouldn't, Maybe you don't need replay. Maybe you 2206 01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:08,680 Speaker 1: know you want to you want to see everything, but 2207 01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:10,439 Speaker 1: there's certain things when you see, like, oh, we don't 2208 01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 1: want to call that, you know what I mean. I 2209 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,080 Speaker 1: think replay kind of invites that dichotomy like, oh, we'd 2210 01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:16,680 Speaker 1: like to see everything, we want to call everything, get 2211 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,800 Speaker 1: a perfectly officiated game. Oh no, we don't want to 2212 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,000 Speaker 1: call that, right. Isn't that what happened to the CFL 2213 01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,920 Speaker 1: into the NFL this year. It's really difficult, you know, 2214 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of people probably follow in the same 2215 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,680 Speaker 1: bucket that that you are, you know, with with that perspective. 2216 01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,200 Speaker 1: And the thing I will say, though, and what nobody's 2217 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,679 Speaker 1: really sorted out yet and what we're trying to work 2218 01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,840 Speaker 1: towards is allowing replay to fix something when it is 2219 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,519 Speaker 1: clearly wrong and that's it and that. But it's so 2220 01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 1: difficult to define when that occurs in the moment, like 2221 01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,479 Speaker 1: how do you write a rule around that that's going 2222 01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,320 Speaker 1: to be consistent because you know, for for all those 2223 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,519 Speaker 1: ones where you know replay might get it wrong or 2224 01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,960 Speaker 1: it's not clear, you know, there there is a number 2225 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,080 Speaker 1: of plays where you know what other type of replay 2226 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,160 Speaker 1: it is, where where they've you know, got involved and 2227 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,160 Speaker 1: fix something that was that was egregiously wrong on the field, 2228 01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,760 Speaker 1: and we forget about those because you know, if you 2229 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,840 Speaker 1: watch officiating, you're like, oh, I gotta right. You know, 2230 01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,599 Speaker 1: that's it's great, Let's move on. You know, we always 2231 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:17,360 Speaker 1: we always in the back of our minds just thinking 2232 01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,320 Speaker 1: about the ones that that replay got wrong. But if 2233 01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 1: it does fix quite quite a few decisions, um, you know, 2234 01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 1: because the game's so fat and it's just about you know, 2235 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,639 Speaker 1: we got to find a way to to write these 2236 01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:33,240 Speaker 1: rules and modify the process where it's not impacting the 2237 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,439 Speaker 1: game flow as much. And you know, we're only getting 2238 01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,160 Speaker 1: involved when something's really off the rail. It's just really 2239 01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,800 Speaker 1: difficult to define. I guess the question might be is 2240 01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,519 Speaker 1: a game better officiated with replay now than it was 2241 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,680 Speaker 1: without replay? I and yeah, wholeheartedly I would say yes, 2242 01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,920 Speaker 1: it is um But what it does is it brings 2243 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,439 Speaker 1: the focus when there's a mistake, you know, and football 2244 01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 1: is the worst for it because it's a stop start game. 2245 01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,200 Speaker 1: So you know, you see a play, the play stops 2246 01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,240 Speaker 1: that we replay it, talk about what you don't talk 2247 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,640 Speaker 1: about it, and then you know, hockey, you know, the 2248 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,800 Speaker 1: puck goes up the ice and unless it was something 2249 01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:10,040 Speaker 1: really egregious, we've all forgotten about it. But but football, 2250 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, we do it to ourselves. The play stops 2251 01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,680 Speaker 1: that we review the play, we talk about it, you know, 2252 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,519 Speaker 1: then it gets challenged and so when there is a mistake, 2253 01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,720 Speaker 1: it's just it's skyrockets, right, is opposed to just kind 2254 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,920 Speaker 1: of getting lost in the shuffle. But Darren, another another 2255 01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,639 Speaker 1: change in the recent years for the CFL, they've started 2256 01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,120 Speaker 1: doing the ref cam. What's your what's your take on 2257 01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:32,200 Speaker 1: that is that? Uh? I wonder what the fans think 2258 01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,120 Speaker 1: if it actually increases their viewing experiences that have any 2259 01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:39,120 Speaker 1: negative side effect or negative um you know effect for 2260 01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,880 Speaker 1: the for the refs who are actually calling the game. Sure. 2261 01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,080 Speaker 1: So when we started started using it, there was obviously 2262 01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,439 Speaker 1: some reticence on the referees themselves about you know, they're 2263 01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,439 Speaker 1: they're they're kind of concerned right about about bettering into 2264 01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,720 Speaker 1: that realm uh. You know. However, we did have I 2265 01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:58,120 Speaker 1: will say this, I think two years ago we had 2266 01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:02,000 Speaker 1: a playoff game where we unfortunately mister roughing the pastor calls, 2267 01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,280 Speaker 1: and the referee had a ref cam on and they 2268 01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:08,719 Speaker 1: showed that angle, and I think it humanized the officials 2269 01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 1: a bit because watching that camera angle, there's no way 2270 01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,000 Speaker 1: anybody was going to pick up this roughing the pastor call. 2271 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,320 Speaker 1: It looks like just a mash of bodies. So in 2272 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,080 Speaker 1: that specific instance, it actually I think it helped us 2273 01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:24,120 Speaker 1: because it just showed that how difficult it really is 2274 01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,320 Speaker 1: in that moment um, you know, and that that was 2275 01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,680 Speaker 1: partially the play that led to us making up that 2276 01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, roughing the pastor challengeable because now we can 2277 01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,400 Speaker 1: take a look at it to replay. But so so 2278 01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,559 Speaker 1: it was it was beneficial in that moment um. You know. 2279 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:40,439 Speaker 1: As a fan, I'm sure it adds adds some things 2280 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,400 Speaker 1: to get some pretty cool shots. From time to time. 2281 01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,720 Speaker 1: It helps us immensely with training because I can sit 2282 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,800 Speaker 1: sit with a referee after a game and we'll watch 2283 01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,200 Speaker 1: the ref cam and we can see where he's looking. 2284 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, we can say you've picked up the wrong 2285 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,200 Speaker 1: key here, you're looking in the wrong space and that 2286 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:57,160 Speaker 1: sort of thing. So, um, yeah, it's been a positive 2287 01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,479 Speaker 1: I think from my perspective. Anyway, Hey, Darren, how is 2288 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,840 Speaker 1: over to I'm in the Canadian Football League different than 2289 01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. The NFL seems to tinker with its overtime 2290 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,360 Speaker 1: rule every couple of years or so. How do they 2291 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 1: handle overtime in the CFL set we got it's similar 2292 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,760 Speaker 1: to the MTQA where we have a bit of a 2293 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,559 Speaker 1: kind of a showdown, um where the team's alternate getting 2294 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,360 Speaker 1: the ball on the thirty five and starting a drive. Um, 2295 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, if they score touchdown, we forced them to 2296 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,639 Speaker 1: go for two points and we play. We played two 2297 01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,519 Speaker 1: rounds of that in the regular season, and if it's 2298 01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,519 Speaker 1: still tied, we just end in a tie. In the playoffs, 2299 01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,599 Speaker 1: we just keep going until we have a winner and 2300 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,120 Speaker 1: and that's okay. It works out well, huh, yeah, it 2301 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 1: works out well. We've had it's uh, it's the only 2302 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 1: time it doesn't work out well is when the game 2303 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,560 Speaker 1: is in its high because you know, people in the 2304 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,240 Speaker 1: stands are you know, losing their minds. Some probably rightfully so, 2305 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,559 Speaker 1: but yeah, but it is exciting when it when it happens. 2306 01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:49,439 Speaker 1: In my years, I have not I have not played 2307 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 1: in a game that ended in a tie yet. But 2308 01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,439 Speaker 1: I do think that that that our overtime system in 2309 01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,479 Speaker 1: the CFL is actually enjoyable. I think it's good for 2310 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,080 Speaker 1: the game too, and it does produce it produces a 2311 01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:03,000 Speaker 1: winner quickly, but I think fairly as well. Um, you know, 2312 01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,040 Speaker 1: just and it's it's also exciting when you just get 2313 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:06,519 Speaker 1: down to the score zone and that's all that's left 2314 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,240 Speaker 1: in the game is just multiple attempts to score. I 2315 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,439 Speaker 1: think it's a good system. Darren heck Would is our guests, 2316 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,880 Speaker 1: CFL Senior Director of Officiating, Darren, I guess the wrap 2317 01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,640 Speaker 1: things up. Are there any rules that you guys have 2318 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:18,559 Speaker 1: in the Canadian Football League that you think would be 2319 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,640 Speaker 1: especially helpful to the NFL, anything you're really proud of. 2320 01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:23,320 Speaker 1: I know you're proud of your game in general, but 2321 01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,360 Speaker 1: what rule do you think works really well in the 2322 01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:29,599 Speaker 1: CFL that might translate to the NFL. Yeah, that's that's 2323 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,439 Speaker 1: an interesting question. You know, I don't really know, you know, 2324 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,320 Speaker 1: off the top of my head what an answer would be. 2325 01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's our our forward motion, you know, it 2326 01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,320 Speaker 1: would be interesting to see what that would do in 2327 01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,160 Speaker 1: a in an NFL four down game, having receivers being 2328 01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:47,320 Speaker 1: able to hit the line running. Um, you know, it's 2329 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,280 Speaker 1: it's it obviously plays havoc with our defense up here. 2330 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,760 Speaker 1: We have a larger field, so already already they have 2331 01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,160 Speaker 1: a bit of advantage to get open. But also they're 2332 01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,559 Speaker 1: they're they're heading a line at full speed, so it's 2333 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,920 Speaker 1: it stretches the field a bit. It'd be interesting to 2334 01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,240 Speaker 1: see see how that played out. Um, you know, our 2335 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,240 Speaker 1: defense has to start a yard off the ball. We 2336 01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:08,360 Speaker 1: have a neutral zone, so they're not up on the ball, 2337 01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:12,640 Speaker 1: so that that creates some different scenarios as well. Um. 2338 01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 1: So so yeah, a couple of things, you know, Um, 2339 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,400 Speaker 1: but it would be it is it is a bit 2340 01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,960 Speaker 1: of a different game. Um, but it would be interesting 2341 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,040 Speaker 1: to see some of those rules and see how they 2342 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:24,960 Speaker 1: play out. I agree, it would be. Hey, Darren, thanks 2343 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,519 Speaker 1: for this, good to talk with you today. Yeah, thank you. Thanks. 2344 01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 1: Darren Hackwood is CFL Senior Director of Officiating, the director 2345 01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,639 Speaker 1: of football Operations and Officiating for the Canadian Football League 2346 01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,679 Speaker 1: for about four or five years. What about that forward motion, Luke, 2347 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,439 Speaker 1: It's a big part of your game, I would think 2348 01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,880 Speaker 1: in the Canadian Football League, right, I think it's one 2349 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,759 Speaker 1: of the rules, one of many rules that really benefit 2350 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,400 Speaker 1: the offense and the CFL, that's what the league is 2351 01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,759 Speaker 1: designed to do. They want touchdowns, they want a passing offense. 2352 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,080 Speaker 1: The only rule in my mind that benefits the defense 2353 01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,519 Speaker 1: is three downs. Yeah, you know, and that's huge, sure, 2354 01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,120 Speaker 1: but but you know, the game is the game is 2355 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,320 Speaker 1: built for for co backs and receivers to make plays, 2356 01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:04,200 Speaker 1: and certainly for myself and for some other receivers who 2357 01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,519 Speaker 1: have made a great uh have had careers up in 2358 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,559 Speaker 1: the CFL. That the waggle as we call it, the 2359 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:12,080 Speaker 1: forward motion prior to the snap of the ball really 2360 01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 1: ends up being an enormous part of your of your 2361 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,960 Speaker 1: game and your success. How much of how much did 2362 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:18,720 Speaker 1: you have to learn how to do that? Coming from 2363 01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,920 Speaker 1: Cornell playing traditional American football goal in the Canadian Football League, 2364 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,960 Speaker 1: how much did you have to learn about that motion? 2365 01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, the waggle pre snap, being able to run 2366 01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,000 Speaker 1: towards the line of scrammy. It's a huge process. I've 2367 01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,680 Speaker 1: always said that it's not just about learning learning the 2368 01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,280 Speaker 1: rules or learning how to to waggle like timely before 2369 01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,200 Speaker 1: the snap of the ball. You also have to learn 2370 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:37,640 Speaker 1: how to use it to your advantage because that's what 2371 01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,839 Speaker 1: it's designed for. It's designed to help you as a receiver. 2372 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,880 Speaker 1: So it's not just about not going off sides when 2373 01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 1: you're doing it. It's about, you know, changing your speed 2374 01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,479 Speaker 1: or changing your angle, you know, as you approach. We 2375 01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:51,000 Speaker 1: were free, the backs and the cfl are all free 2376 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,040 Speaker 1: to motion in any direction or angle or speed that 2377 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,559 Speaker 1: they want. So it's about being able to adjust that 2378 01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:58,720 Speaker 1: and to use it to your advantage and sort of 2379 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:04,479 Speaker 1: deception of the defense. Um and uh. You know. Also 2380 01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:06,640 Speaker 1: it changes the game in a sense that you're not 2381 01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:10,240 Speaker 1: always running full speed and that's true of American football 2382 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,080 Speaker 1: as well. And sort of you know, Jerry Rice said, 2383 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,280 Speaker 1: it's not about it not about you running your fastest, 2384 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,559 Speaker 1: about how you if you look like you're running your fastest, 2385 01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:18,439 Speaker 1: you know, And so you can set up a defender 2386 01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:22,800 Speaker 1: to h to make to run a route. But you know, 2387 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,360 Speaker 1: the waggle allows a lot of creativity and route running. 2388 01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,840 Speaker 1: There when you get ready to do that run, the 2389 01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,960 Speaker 1: waggle moving for the snap is a different quarterback your quarterback. 2390 01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:33,920 Speaker 1: You have to adjust to a different quarterbacks cadence. So 2391 01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing everyone. You know, we have such 2392 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,479 Speaker 1: great sound bites in the NFL of quarterbacks calling their cadences. 2393 01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, Peyton Manning is so famous for for Omahama, 2394 01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,320 Speaker 1: all the calls that he that he made, and and 2395 01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,200 Speaker 1: and a number of those the quarterbacks are and there's 2396 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:50,400 Speaker 1: um in the CFL. One of the hardest things is 2397 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:52,439 Speaker 1: when your quarterback gets hurt and the next guy comes in, 2398 01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,040 Speaker 1: it's their responsibility to match cadences. So that and that's 2399 01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:57,639 Speaker 1: so that's how it is. The sound bites a little 2400 01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:01,439 Speaker 1: bit different there where once once the quarterback uh starts 2401 01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,840 Speaker 1: starts the progress, it can't change, you know, he has 2402 01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,960 Speaker 1: to he has to maintain that. In most packages. There 2403 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:08,680 Speaker 1: are times where you want to, you know, where you're 2404 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,640 Speaker 1: trying to to make it to sort of you know, 2405 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:13,439 Speaker 1: change tempo in the game and you sort of fake 2406 01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:15,840 Speaker 1: a waggle and come back. For the most part, quarterbacks 2407 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,280 Speaker 1: have to match each other's waggle. So that's it's very, 2408 01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,200 Speaker 1: very common to see a quarterback go down in a 2409 01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,320 Speaker 1: game in the CFL and offside penalty start to happen. 2410 01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,920 Speaker 1: Because it's just a hair difference between quarterbacks. It's got 2411 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,960 Speaker 1: to be impossible. It's a defensive back to try to cover. 2412 01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 1: I honestly wouldn't like playing defense, and I mean I 2413 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't like playing defense periods. But in the CFL it's 2414 01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:37,280 Speaker 1: especially hard the game, and it's exciting that the game's 2415 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,000 Speaker 1: built for offense. In my in my opinion, um it 2416 01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,679 Speaker 1: certainly you do see a lot less true press man 2417 01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,680 Speaker 1: in the CFL. Teams do play it, certainly in there 2418 01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,799 Speaker 1: are field positions where it's where it's popular with defensive coordinators, 2419 01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:54,680 Speaker 1: but it is generally it's just, um it has a 2420 01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,880 Speaker 1: lower likelihood to succeed because you're you're you're one on one, 2421 01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,920 Speaker 1: but the guy gets a head start, you know, the receiver, 2422 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,280 Speaker 1: it's a head start. They can play zone the other. 2423 01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,960 Speaker 1: But the other interesting thing about it is, but with 2424 01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,800 Speaker 1: the wide field, you know, defensive backs can account for 2425 01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:10,280 Speaker 1: the ball time in the air, and so what that 2426 01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,000 Speaker 1: means is you can be playing man coverage, but at 2427 01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:13,680 Speaker 1: the snap of the ball you're still twelve yards off 2428 01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,160 Speaker 1: if you're to the wide side of the field, or 2429 01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:20,160 Speaker 1: if you have help underneath and um CFL defenses is 2430 01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:23,400 Speaker 1: I Actually, it's a It's been an enjoyable part of 2431 01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,519 Speaker 1: my career to learn and to learn about that and 2432 01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,360 Speaker 1: dissect that and to try to see it. When I 2433 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:30,680 Speaker 1: first went up there, Uh, it really does look it. 2434 01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 1: Almost every coverage tends to look the same when you're 2435 01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:34,960 Speaker 1: new up there. It just isn't that they don't they 2436 01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,200 Speaker 1: have they have the ability to not identify their coverage 2437 01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,120 Speaker 1: right away because of the width of the field. So 2438 01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,120 Speaker 1: oftentimes it just looked like everybody is always standing at 2439 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,120 Speaker 1: ten yards deep or fifteen yards deep and I and 2440 01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:46,880 Speaker 1: it just looked the same. And after a while you 2441 01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: start to realize, Um, you know there are there are 2442 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,000 Speaker 1: there are zone contours and man contours just like they're 2443 01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. How long did it take you to 2444 01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:57,320 Speaker 1: recognize that? A couple of years before I really feel 2445 01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,880 Speaker 1: felt comfortable on every play identifying or zone at least 2446 01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:03,280 Speaker 1: or one high and two high at least. Uh. Yeah, 2447 01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:05,960 Speaker 1: I would say two or three seasons. You know, when 2448 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:08,920 Speaker 1: it's different from the seeing than seeing the field, like 2449 01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback season when you're a receiver, you're really looking 2450 01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,720 Speaker 1: at the triangle in front of you, right boy. But uh, 2451 01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, after a while, you get really used to 2452 01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,960 Speaker 1: that what we call the half back in the CFL. 2453 01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:21,040 Speaker 1: So instead of a strong safety, free safety and corners, 2454 01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,320 Speaker 1: it's a free safety with two half backs on either 2455 01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,719 Speaker 1: side of him and then two corners on the outsides. 2456 01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:30,160 Speaker 1: And to recognize those CFL triangles in the in the 2457 01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:32,760 Speaker 1: in these defensive backfield. I actually think that's one of 2458 01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,880 Speaker 1: the advantages that the young Canadian receivers have over the 2459 01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,040 Speaker 1: people coming up from NFL training camps is just the 2460 01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:41,360 Speaker 1: ability to see that that same defense I've seen all 2461 01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:44,160 Speaker 1: through college. Here's a controversial question. You're not gonna like it? 2462 01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,800 Speaker 1: Which game is better? You know what I'm gonna I'm 2463 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna stick to my to my guns here, and I 2464 01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,360 Speaker 1: honestly do like the CFL game better. I do think 2465 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:58,280 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more exciting, uh in terms of uh, 2466 01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:00,200 Speaker 1: in terms of the offenses that are running, the points 2467 01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,880 Speaker 1: that are scored. Plus you work there seven years, well, yeah, 2468 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,320 Speaker 1: they put money in your pocket for seven years. Of 2469 01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:08,360 Speaker 1: course you're gonna say that we're gonna take a break, 2470 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,360 Speaker 1: We're coming back with more, including uh tour or False 2471 01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,880 Speaker 1: with Luke Tasker. He's here till three o'clock today. One 2472 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,560 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by KALAA Hell from the Seneca Studio. 2473 01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:31,440 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back. We've got about 2474 01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:33,360 Speaker 1: thirty minutes left in the show. We gotta take some 2475 01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,200 Speaker 1: more phone calls. If you'd like to give us a call, 2476 01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:37,960 Speaker 1: do it now. Not a whole lot of time left. 2477 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:41,200 Speaker 1: Eight three five fifty outside Buffalo toll Free one eight 2478 01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,800 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. I'm John Murphy. 2479 01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,680 Speaker 1: This is Luke Tasker as opposed to Steve Tasker. It's 2480 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:48,480 Speaker 1: good to have you here, Luke. Thanks. You bring sort 2481 01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,720 Speaker 1: of a fresh, youthful approach to the show, which is 2482 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:54,720 Speaker 1: sorely lacking when your dad's here. Just kidding. I'm not 2483 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna talk bad about your dad. I love your dad, um, 2484 01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:58,880 Speaker 1: but it's great to have you here. Steve will be 2485 01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,040 Speaker 1: gone on Monday as well. Chris Around joins us on Monday. 2486 01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,120 Speaker 1: Got an interesting Twitter pole. We'd like to get you 2487 01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:07,720 Speaker 1: engaged on that. We're approaching free agency right. Somebody just 2488 01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,480 Speaker 1: asked me at the RV show in the other room. 2489 01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,920 Speaker 1: Ones free agency start next week, No, about a week 2490 01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,600 Speaker 1: and a half away. On Monday, March sixteenth, teams can 2491 01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:18,000 Speaker 1: start legally contacting players that are going to be free 2492 01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:21,080 Speaker 1: agents and seeing where they're at, and then two days later, 2493 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,920 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, March eighteenth, they can actually sign them. So 2494 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:28,280 Speaker 1: about what's today March seventh? So the sixteenth is nine 2495 01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:32,320 Speaker 1: days away from the legal tampering period and eleven days 2496 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,560 Speaker 1: away from the actual free agency. But Bills are set right, 2497 01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,480 Speaker 1: What is the best recruiting tool in the Bills arsenal 2498 01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:40,800 Speaker 1: that they can use in free agency? What do you think? 2499 01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:42,840 Speaker 1: We got seven out of votes in on our Twitter poll. 2500 01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:45,720 Speaker 1: Let's look at that the best recruiting tool for the 2501 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,520 Speaker 1: Bills in free agency. Forty percent of you say it's 2502 01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,040 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. A bit of a surprise there, I 2503 01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,720 Speaker 1: get it, but it's still it's kind of surprising. Thirty 2504 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:57,080 Speaker 1: three percent say it's the money they have making available 2505 01:56:57,080 --> 01:57:00,560 Speaker 1: with these players. Eighteen percent say the fact that they 2506 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:02,800 Speaker 1: have a state of the art facility, the great new 2507 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,720 Speaker 1: player training center that just opened last April. And nine 2508 01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:07,680 Speaker 1: percent say, hey, they got a good quarterback that would 2509 01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,640 Speaker 1: attract players. What do you think? Give us a call? 2510 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,880 Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight five fifty 2511 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,320 Speaker 1: two five fifty. Luke, I think you said money would 2512 01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,040 Speaker 1: be number one on your list, right, Yeah, I do. 2513 01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:19,480 Speaker 1: And again the thing that surprised me the most is 2514 01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,520 Speaker 1: the coaching staff to that that fans um put so 2515 01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,680 Speaker 1: much of an emphasis on that. In my mind, I do, 2516 01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,600 Speaker 1: I do think the facility is probably at the bottom. 2517 01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,480 Speaker 1: I would actually put quarterback above coaching staff though in 2518 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,520 Speaker 1: my in my mind, um, if I'm a player, I 2519 01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 1: think it would be a real, real, uh you know, 2520 01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:39,560 Speaker 1: convincing argument in my mind to go to a team 2521 01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:41,800 Speaker 1: that has a quarterback who's who's who's a winner and 2522 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:45,040 Speaker 1: a and a proven uh you know gamer. Do you think, 2523 01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,440 Speaker 1: now you're coming at it from a receiver standpoint, you 2524 01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,800 Speaker 1: think jos who are not receivers would feel the same way? 2525 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,720 Speaker 1: You know, maybe not. You know, I probably am a 2526 01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,480 Speaker 1: little bit biased because the receiver. It would have so 2527 01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,120 Speaker 1: much of a direct impact on my on my uh 2528 01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, production on on that team. Uh. Still, you know, 2529 01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:01,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback is going to be the face of the 2530 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,440 Speaker 1: organization almost almost inevitably. You know what answer is not 2531 01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,360 Speaker 1: on there is, But I think it'd be number one 2532 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,280 Speaker 1: is do I have a chance to win? And it's 2533 01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:10,840 Speaker 1: almost almost as important as money. Are you gonna pay 2534 01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,680 Speaker 1: me what the going rate is, be in the neighborhood 2535 01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,680 Speaker 1: of what guys are making in my position and what 2536 01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm worth, and do we have a chance to win there? 2537 01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,920 Speaker 1: That would be the number and money is number one. 2538 01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:23,720 Speaker 1: I think for anybody, even the most altruistic, uh great 2539 01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,000 Speaker 1: guys that you can sign, if the money's not in 2540 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,080 Speaker 1: the ballpark, they're not signing any course of it. Has 2541 01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:29,440 Speaker 1: it should be that way. It has to be that way. 2542 01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:31,520 Speaker 1: That's what That's what That's what makes it such a 2543 01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,240 Speaker 1: such an incredible job to play in the NFL is 2544 01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,800 Speaker 1: because that's partly partly it the money, but also I 2545 01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,440 Speaker 1: do think you get a guy every once once in 2546 01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:41,160 Speaker 1: a while, like you said, who's willing to take you know, whatever, 2547 01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, the homecoun hometown discount, or whatever you want 2548 01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:45,040 Speaker 1: to call it. But but for a real chance to 2549 01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:47,480 Speaker 1: be a to be a champion, give us a call 2550 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,080 Speaker 1: on this eight three fifty toll free one eight eight 2551 01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,600 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's go back to 2552 01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:55,000 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet brought to you by Carrigan Moving Systems, 2553 01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:58,200 Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Best recruiting tool 2554 01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,640 Speaker 1: for the Bills and free agency. Would do you have there, Luke? 2555 01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,360 Speaker 1: What do you got? Let's see. Let's see from Eric 2556 01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,720 Speaker 1: here we got a tweet. Free agency is ultimately the 2557 01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,879 Speaker 1: players chance to maximize their career earnings and support themselves 2558 01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,760 Speaker 1: for life. It's all about the money, says Eric, in 2559 01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:12,800 Speaker 1: a case where one player may have multiple offers at 2560 01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:14,640 Speaker 1: the same rate, and I'd say it goes to the 2561 01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,960 Speaker 1: winning chance goes by location. I don't know exactly what 2562 01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:20,360 Speaker 1: he means by location. Maybe he's talking about the facilities, 2563 01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,720 Speaker 1: like we said there, or proximity to where he's from 2564 01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,080 Speaker 1: or something. I tend to think that usually doesn't come 2565 01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,520 Speaker 1: into come into play, although you never know he's Some 2566 01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:31,680 Speaker 1: of these California guys don't want to leave the West coast. 2567 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, when free agency began early nineties and movements started, 2568 01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:38,680 Speaker 1: there was a thought that, well, Buffalo is going to 2569 01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:43,800 Speaker 1: be heard badly. Green Bay won't get anybody, you know, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh. 2570 01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:45,360 Speaker 1: They are going to want to go to Miami and 2571 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,000 Speaker 1: go to southern California. I don't know how much of 2572 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:49,880 Speaker 1: a factor that is for most players. First of all, 2573 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:52,800 Speaker 1: players can go wherever they want. They come here, it's 2574 01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,840 Speaker 1: a job and they work here or there, but they 2575 01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:57,800 Speaker 1: work there and then they can go wherever they want. 2576 01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look at this place since January fourth, last game, 2577 02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:02,520 Speaker 1: there have been a whole lot of players around here. 2578 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,960 Speaker 1: They're doing what they want where they want. We had 2579 02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:06,560 Speaker 1: a tweet earlier that brought up a good point too, 2580 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,040 Speaker 1: and cost of living. You know, you can go play 2581 02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,760 Speaker 1: for it for the for the LA teams, but you 2582 02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,240 Speaker 1: know that's uh, that's going to cost a lot more 2583 02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:14,600 Speaker 1: than it's going to be to be a bill. You 2584 02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,120 Speaker 1: know what I think is a factor two. Taxes. Yeah, 2585 02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:18,440 Speaker 1: I think you don't want to go to a place 2586 02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:24,240 Speaker 1: a percentage of big percentage of your paychecks going to taxes, like, yeah, 2587 02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,640 Speaker 1: that's right. Players know that, they look at that. That's 2588 02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:31,440 Speaker 1: huge when you know, especially for you know, the Florida teams. 2589 02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:33,960 Speaker 1: And then yeah, you know the zero state tax places. 2590 02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,560 Speaker 1: What else you got there in the tweet ing, Let's 2591 02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:37,480 Speaker 1: see here, let's see what Thomas has to say. The 2592 02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,640 Speaker 1: best recruiting tool is winning and making the playoffs. There 2593 02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:42,840 Speaker 1: you go, Murph, that's to your point. The players want 2594 02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,400 Speaker 1: to win, want to play for winning organizations to have 2595 02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:48,640 Speaker 1: a chance at going to the super Bowl. Yeah, you know, 2596 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:50,920 Speaker 1: I certainly, Like I said before, I think this is 2597 02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:54,520 Speaker 1: certainly applicable, especially for players who are maybe in their 2598 02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,800 Speaker 1: third or fourth contract. You know, guys who have sort 2599 02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:59,920 Speaker 1: of I've done everything except for win a super Bowl 2600 02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:02,680 Speaker 1: type of free agents. I don't think that's going to 2601 02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,520 Speaker 1: trump money, especially for a guy for a younger player, 2602 02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,520 Speaker 1: but I can say if it were me, I could 2603 02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:10,760 Speaker 1: certainly I could certainly see that being a factor. Here's 2604 02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,000 Speaker 1: another answer, and this goes to your point, Luke. This 2605 02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,800 Speaker 1: one comes from Joe. We asked what's the best recruiting 2606 02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:18,480 Speaker 1: tool for the Bills in free agency. Joe says, quarterback. 2607 02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:21,160 Speaker 1: I based this on the perception that a good quarterback 2608 02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,840 Speaker 1: gives you a better chance to win. Plus, listening to 2609 02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:26,200 Speaker 1: players from the Combine, many mentioned how much they would 2610 02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,840 Speaker 1: want to play with Josh. This also carries over to 2611 02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,520 Speaker 1: defensive players in free agents. That's interesting. Yeah, I think 2612 02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:33,760 Speaker 1: it is related to winning. But sure, and you point 2613 02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:36,640 Speaker 1: out quarterback for a receiver or many other players, is 2614 02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:39,080 Speaker 1: an important consideration as to where you might want to play, 2615 02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Eric said, Eric gave it to the coaching staff. Here, 2616 02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:44,400 Speaker 1: I would vote coaching staff, but would expand it to 2617 02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:48,720 Speaker 1: read a top down organizational acumen from from the ownership 2618 02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:51,360 Speaker 1: all the way down. I think it's a good point, 2619 02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:53,760 Speaker 1: and I kind of where I am with the coaching staff. 2620 02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:57,600 Speaker 1: With free agency, it's almost like it's going to be 2621 02:01:57,640 --> 02:01:59,840 Speaker 1: an asset to play to places with a good coach. 2622 02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't see it being really necessarily and I don't 2623 02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:05,480 Speaker 1: see people, you know, pointing out bad coaches that don't 2624 02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,720 Speaker 1: want to be played for it because bad coaches get fired. Yeah, 2625 02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, right, But I do see, you know, especially 2626 02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, like a situation here, and you know, a 2627 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,800 Speaker 1: young a younger coach who's whose authent comes off as 2628 02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,360 Speaker 1: being authentic and identifies as the players, it might be 2629 02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:21,720 Speaker 1: it might be an asset. Let's take a few calls 2630 02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:24,839 Speaker 1: on this topic and others. Let's go to Anthony and amours. Hello, Anthony, 2631 02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:27,840 Speaker 1: you're on the air. You're good, afternoon, Murphy. I gotta 2632 02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,240 Speaker 1: tell you your dad brings a real great quality to 2633 02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the show. He's got terrific insight and he sound a 2634 02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:34,640 Speaker 1: lot like them. But real quick, I want to say 2635 02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:37,360 Speaker 1: support of the coaching staff. I mean, we have a 2636 02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:40,400 Speaker 1: real brotherhood on this team, a real leader of men 2637 02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,640 Speaker 1: and coach McDermott, and aside from the facility, I think 2638 02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:45,800 Speaker 1: that when players come here and they see that, it's 2639 02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,320 Speaker 1: a real attractive quality, and I really don't think other 2640 02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:50,560 Speaker 1: teams have it to agree that we do, and I 2641 02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:52,800 Speaker 1: can see that being a large influence on guys signing 2642 02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:56,080 Speaker 1: with our squad. I understand that I agree with that 2643 02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:58,080 Speaker 1: kind of Yeah, I do as well. I think one 2644 02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:00,680 Speaker 1: of the hard things about free agency is that if 2645 02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:02,960 Speaker 1: as these players have a chance to talk to some 2646 02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:06,879 Speaker 1: of the staffs or visit places, the problem is everyone's 2647 02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:09,120 Speaker 1: going to sell themselves pretty well. I think it's a 2648 02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:11,280 Speaker 1: lot of times this can only be something that is 2649 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,800 Speaker 1: that can really be told after a players played there, 2650 02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:15,320 Speaker 1: and then it's too late, you know, you're already on 2651 02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:17,680 Speaker 1: a contract or But I do think it's authentic here 2652 02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:19,280 Speaker 1: and I think that I think that it would be 2653 02:03:19,320 --> 02:03:22,120 Speaker 1: a rewarding I think that players would be rewarded by 2654 02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:24,920 Speaker 1: by signing here when it comes to the staff that 2655 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,120 Speaker 1: you play for, whether they can tell that or not 2656 02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,960 Speaker 1: prior to signing compared to other franchises, you know, that's 2657 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:32,960 Speaker 1: hard to say and to your point, Anthony, thanks for 2658 02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:35,880 Speaker 1: your call to that point. I think we're talking about 2659 02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:38,480 Speaker 1: this as if every player is the same. We're kind 2660 02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:41,240 Speaker 1: of general ezineer. But for some players, the quarterback would 2661 02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,160 Speaker 1: make a difference, like Luke's pointed out for a receiver. 2662 02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:45,800 Speaker 1: For other players, the coaching staff would make a big difference, 2663 02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:48,440 Speaker 1: as most of our responded say. For others, money would 2664 02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:50,320 Speaker 1: make the biggest difference. Right. Guys come into it with 2665 02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:54,480 Speaker 1: different expectations and different needs out of free agency, don't they? Absolutely? 2666 02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:55,640 Speaker 1: And I think you know you're also are going to 2667 02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,600 Speaker 1: have your every head coach is you know, going to 2668 02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:00,720 Speaker 1: be have an offensive or defense of background. And I 2669 02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:02,800 Speaker 1: wonder if the free agents, uh you know who are 2670 02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,000 Speaker 1: who are in the market, are are are seeing that 2671 02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:07,000 Speaker 1: too and taking that into account. I kind of doubt it. 2672 02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I kind of doubt that makes the you know, the 2673 02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:11,520 Speaker 1: top of their um, you know, on top of their 2674 02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,080 Speaker 1: board for the what impacts their decision. But you never know. 2675 02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,440 Speaker 1: Take a few more phone calls here while lucas with us, 2676 02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:20,840 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jay Ian Hamilton, Ontario. Hello, Jay, Hey, 2677 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:23,240 Speaker 1: Jo guys, Luke, what's up? My man? Hey Jay? How 2678 02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:26,560 Speaker 1: are you? It's funny he's found so much like your 2679 02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:30,040 Speaker 1: dad from the early nineties. It is incredible. Um, so 2680 02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:31,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about you for a second. What are we 2681 02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:34,680 Speaker 1: expecting from our tie Cats last year? Man, I don't know. 2682 02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:36,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm I'm still a free agent right now. 2683 02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:40,720 Speaker 1: The market is still open. I do think that the 2684 02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:42,240 Speaker 1: tie Cats have a great Cup in the next couple 2685 02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,760 Speaker 1: of years. Coach O is Coach Orlando Steinhauer is the 2686 02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:46,520 Speaker 1: best coach I've ever the best head coach I've ever 2687 02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,040 Speaker 1: played for. And he is a guy who's going to 2688 02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:51,360 Speaker 1: be a great Cup champion head coach. So you know 2689 02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:54,800 Speaker 1: what he from from the first team meeting, you can 2690 02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:57,960 Speaker 1: tell his authenticity. He means what he says. He's not 2691 02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:00,560 Speaker 1: if he says something that's cliche, it's because he believes 2692 02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:03,880 Speaker 1: it entirely and and and cliches are cliches because there's 2693 02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:06,640 Speaker 1: truth in him and he uh, he preaches a consistent 2694 02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,560 Speaker 1: message and he demands it and gets it from his team. 2695 02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,880 Speaker 1: He's just he just has the leadership qualities necessary to 2696 02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:16,600 Speaker 1: be a champion. Jay anything else for Luke, that's just 2697 02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:18,840 Speaker 1: a quick thing. So, I mean, how our conversations well 2698 02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:20,880 Speaker 1: with the tie guys. I mean, I'm I'm hoping you'd 2699 02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,480 Speaker 1: come back because I really love how you play. I 2700 02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:25,280 Speaker 1: think I think sometimes they don't use you enough. Uh, 2701 02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:27,640 Speaker 1: you know what, it's still we're still in talks where 2702 02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,120 Speaker 1: it's certainly and I'm certainly in in good relations with 2703 02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:31,960 Speaker 1: the team. I have a lot of respect for the 2704 02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:34,440 Speaker 1: organization around there. Who knows what's going to end up 2705 02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,000 Speaker 1: happening though, it's all Uh, I'm in no, I'm in 2706 02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:39,480 Speaker 1: no rush and uh, we'll have to see. It's unknown 2707 02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:41,680 Speaker 1: right now. When do they start camp? When would they 2708 02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:44,760 Speaker 1: mid May? Okay, you got some time? Yeah? Thanks Jay, 2709 02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:48,360 Speaker 1: thanks for calling. Let's go to uh Brian in Toronto. Hello, Brian, 2710 02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:55,720 Speaker 1: you're on the air. Brian, Okay, good, I'm calling the 2711 02:05:55,720 --> 02:06:04,720 Speaker 1: good guy. Well maybe Tay. Hey, I don't think we 2712 02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,040 Speaker 1: have a stadium that's big enough the old NFL fan 2713 02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:15,440 Speaker 1: and the NFL delegating it's in Canada. I mean, so 2714 02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I go to Stadius Inn. To be honest, Yeah, hard 2715 02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,880 Speaker 1: time getting throaty. But here's a question, Brian, or it's 2716 02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,160 Speaker 1: for you actually, Luke. He says that none of the 2717 02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,839 Speaker 1: CFL stadiums are bringing up, but like the BC Stadium 2718 02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:31,840 Speaker 1: is big, right, that's I'm trying to think, but it's 2719 02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:33,880 Speaker 1: something like sixty five or something like that. So it's 2720 02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:36,400 Speaker 1: still not quite the usual eighty or so or whatever 2721 02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:38,440 Speaker 1: that we can get into the NFL. But to his 2722 02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,560 Speaker 1: to the fans point though, there is a there's a 2723 02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:44,800 Speaker 1: lot of restriction on tailgating, for for in Canada and 2724 02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:48,400 Speaker 1: so certainly in Buffalo. The environment that we have here 2725 02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,040 Speaker 1: on on game days, it's it's not exactly going to 2726 02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:54,560 Speaker 1: be the same for for most CFL cities. Point. I 2727 02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,680 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of NFL cities that I guess 2728 02:06:57,680 --> 02:07:00,200 Speaker 1: they outail gaining, but it's not really a thing. It's 2729 02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:03,920 Speaker 1: a thing here, Yeah, the big it is. Yeah, thanks 2730 02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:07,040 Speaker 1: for Carling. Let's go to uh Bernie in lockboard. Bernie, Hello, 2731 02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,960 Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Go ahead, Hey, thanks 2732 02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:13,480 Speaker 1: you getting me on quarter should memory lane? Will What 2733 02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:17,480 Speaker 1: did you think of your college days playing in Itthnaca. 2734 02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved Cornell and Ithaca. Um. We never were 2735 02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:24,840 Speaker 1: My best record there was five and five, so it 2736 02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:26,520 Speaker 1: was a bit of a it was a battle always 2737 02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:28,960 Speaker 1: on the on the field to be competitive, but we 2738 02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:30,760 Speaker 1: did have a good offense and my time there was 2739 02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:34,200 Speaker 1: was fantastic. In your time. Did you ever scrimmage the 2740 02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Bombers overrun South Hill? Uh? The JV team for Cornell 2741 02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,280 Speaker 1: plays the Bombers. I met. I did not take part 2742 02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:44,160 Speaker 1: in that, uh and that scrimmage. But um always a 2743 02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:46,840 Speaker 1: good rivalry, not not necessarily on the football field, but 2744 02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,000 Speaker 1: just in the city and in the town, just between 2745 02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:53,360 Speaker 1: the town college. No, it's a beautiful campus too. My 2746 02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:55,000 Speaker 1: wife went to Ithaca, so I can't be I can't 2747 02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:57,600 Speaker 1: talk too bad about it. I played. I played for 2748 02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Boys too. Yeah out at buff State. Very nice. Yeah, 2749 02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:07,400 Speaker 1: beautiful city. Thanks Bernie. Just one more quick yep, go 2750 02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:11,680 Speaker 1: ahead about ivy leaguers and the CFL and NFL. Seems 2751 02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,520 Speaker 1: like they're they're more fines in their way and onto 2752 02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:17,200 Speaker 1: the the end of the games. Yeah, you know what 2753 02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:20,960 Speaker 1: there are there is a good uh, a pretty good showing. Um. Uh. 2754 02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:24,760 Speaker 1: What's the tight end with the forty nine ers? Is 2755 02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,600 Speaker 1: the Harvard graduate he's scoring a touchdown a Super Bowl? 2756 02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,240 Speaker 1: We've uh. My roommate at Cornell for all these uh 2757 02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:32,520 Speaker 1: for all four years is the center for the Cleveland Browns. 2758 02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:36,960 Speaker 1: There's a that's right. A number a long time BC 2759 02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Lions receiver was was a Harvard receiver as well. Yeah, 2760 02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:42,600 Speaker 1: there's some guys who have been able to make it. Obviously, Fitzpatrick, 2761 02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:47,920 Speaker 1: you know's become a household name around the league. He's uh, Um, 2762 02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:49,920 Speaker 1: it's a harder it's a harder path, I would say 2763 02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:54,600 Speaker 1: than than Division one scholarship football. Um. But the reason 2764 02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:56,080 Speaker 1: that I went to Cornell's he gives you a lot 2765 02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:58,800 Speaker 1: of options outside of football too. So I think that 2766 02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:01,800 Speaker 1: there seems like there is a decent number of guys 2767 02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:05,040 Speaker 1: who've been able to continue to play. Thank youre, Colin Bernie. Yeah, 2768 02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Uscheck of the forty nine ers fold got a 2769 02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:12,360 Speaker 1: great touchdown. Yeah, I'm looking at the list here, thank you. Um, 2770 02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick obviously, Tyler Rott, Adam Redman, Zach Dias of the 2771 02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:21,120 Speaker 1: Giants went to Brown, Yeah, Um. James Devlin of the Patriots, Um, 2772 02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,640 Speaker 1: he went to Brown, right right, I think he did. 2773 02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:27,360 Speaker 1: I want me to keep going. There's Princeton, guys, who's 2774 02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:29,360 Speaker 1: the best program in the IVY League? What do you think? 2775 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:31,680 Speaker 1: You know what? While I was there, Harvard and Penn 2776 02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:35,440 Speaker 1: had great teams. Right after I left, Princeton really turned 2777 02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:40,000 Speaker 1: their program around, which is uh, you know interesting when 2778 02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:42,040 Speaker 1: when they were a team that we beat handily a 2779 02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:45,200 Speaker 1: few times. But they they've they've Dartmouth US as a 2780 02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:48,640 Speaker 1: really good team. Right now, I think Cornell is next 2781 02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:51,640 Speaker 1: to turn it around earth or they need too quickly. 2782 02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:53,960 Speaker 1: Jac Trader was a good player, and he's had a 2783 02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,680 Speaker 1: really solid career, first with the Packers, then now with 2784 02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:59,760 Speaker 1: the Browns. He's on his second contract. He's making big money. 2785 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,040 Speaker 1: He has your roommate at Cornell. That's right. Yeah, he 2786 02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:05,040 Speaker 1: just just got married in February in San Diego. He did. 2787 02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:07,200 Speaker 1: He's a really really great player. He was. He was 2788 02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:10,160 Speaker 1: acro New York. It's right, Western New York kid from one. 2789 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,960 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that you know. He was 2790 02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:14,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds when he left high school, 2791 02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:17,640 Speaker 1: and and and tall. He was a basketball player at quarterback, 2792 02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:20,960 Speaker 1: and uh he reluctantly went to offensive line, you know, 2793 02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:23,200 Speaker 1: as a junior in college he was he was a 2794 02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:25,480 Speaker 1: tight end and sure enough Hiss a fourth round pick 2795 02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:27,000 Speaker 1: and now and is going into his eighth season in 2796 02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:28,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. I met him at the Senior Bowl when 2797 02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:31,160 Speaker 1: he came out of Cornell. Great guy and a great family. 2798 02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:32,960 Speaker 1: His parents were there too. In Mobile he was great. 2799 02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:35,120 Speaker 1: He's he is a true Ivy League kid. I mean 2800 02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:37,720 Speaker 1: he's smart, really smart. He's a involved he's involved with 2801 02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:40,960 Speaker 1: the CBA, uh, you know, representing the Browns franchise there. 2802 02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:42,600 Speaker 1: All right, we got a break. We're coming back with more. 2803 02:10:42,680 --> 02:10:45,200 Speaker 1: One Bill Side, presented by Kalaida Health from the Seneca 2804 02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:48,080 Speaker 1: Studio in Orchard Park. And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 2805 02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:04,240 Speaker 1: All right, So what have we learned from today's show? 2806 02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental 2807 02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:10,520 Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. What have we learned when 2808 02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:12,000 Speaker 1: we take a look at the show and what went 2809 02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:14,120 Speaker 1: on and maybe some things that were said that we 2810 02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:16,240 Speaker 1: weren't ready for. That's what we're doing here. What have 2811 02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:18,160 Speaker 1: we learned? I gotta fire it up here though, first? 2812 02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:22,000 Speaker 1: What have we learned? Well? One of the guests we 2813 02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:25,760 Speaker 1: had on today was Great co Sell from NFL Matchup 2814 02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:29,320 Speaker 1: on ESPN. Gret some interesting thoughts on some of the prospects, 2815 02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:32,880 Speaker 1: in particular some of the pass rush prospects the edge 2816 02:11:32,920 --> 02:11:36,200 Speaker 1: rush guys from the end this year's draft class. Greg 2817 02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:39,280 Speaker 1: co Sell says it's a talented class of edge rushers 2818 02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:41,120 Speaker 1: and he had some thoughts on one of them, in 2819 02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:46,960 Speaker 1: particular LSU's Caliban Chason. Here's what Great Cassell said, He's 2820 02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:50,280 Speaker 1: a fascinating prospect to me. He's only twenty years old. 2821 02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:53,720 Speaker 1: He's a high level edge prospect, you know. I think 2822 02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:56,360 Speaker 1: he's just scratching the surface of what he can become. 2823 02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,640 Speaker 1: He's an explosive athlete. He's got quickness, he's got sudden 2824 02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,120 Speaker 1: movement traits. I think he's got some of that what 2825 02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:05,320 Speaker 1: we call motorcycle lean a little bit to bend the edge. 2826 02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,240 Speaker 1: I think he's a guy who's just beginning to sort 2827 02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:11,160 Speaker 1: of get a feel for what he can do. And 2828 02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:13,080 Speaker 1: he may not be a stud his first year, but 2829 02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:16,120 Speaker 1: as I said, he's only twenty years old. And whether 2830 02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:20,360 Speaker 1: he's there at twenty two, I can't answer that, but 2831 02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:23,839 Speaker 1: he'd be a really intriguing pick. Great Cosell on Klaiman 2832 02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:25,800 Speaker 1: Chase on of LSU. Is he going to be there 2833 02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:28,839 Speaker 1: at twenty two? Is he merit the twenty second overall selection? 2834 02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:31,920 Speaker 1: That question to be answering about seven weeks. Also on 2835 02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:34,400 Speaker 1: the show, earlier this hour, Darren Hackwood joined us. He 2836 02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:37,200 Speaker 1: is director of officiating for the Canadian Football League. He 2837 02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:40,040 Speaker 1: talked about how the cfl endeavors to try to resolve 2838 02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:44,920 Speaker 1: replay issues involving replay review and here's what he talked about, 2839 02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Darren Heckwood. Nobody's really sorted out yet. And what we're 2840 02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:53,400 Speaker 1: trying to work towards is allowing replay to fix something 2841 02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:56,120 Speaker 1: when it is clearly wrong and that's it. And but 2842 02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:59,920 Speaker 1: it's so difficult to define when that occurs in the moment, 2843 02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:02,400 Speaker 1: Like how do you write a rule around that that's 2844 02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:04,960 Speaker 1: going to be consistent because you know, as if you 2845 02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:07,040 Speaker 1: watch officiating, like all they got to write it. You know, 2846 02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:09,839 Speaker 1: that's that's great, Let's move on. You know, we always 2847 02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:11,800 Speaker 1: we always been back in our minds just thinking about 2848 02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:14,800 Speaker 1: the ones that that replay got wrong. But if it 2849 02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:17,920 Speaker 1: does fit quite quite a few decisions, um, you know, 2850 02:13:17,960 --> 02:13:21,240 Speaker 1: because the game's so fat and it's just about you know, 2851 02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:23,800 Speaker 1: we got to find a way to to write these 2852 02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:27,360 Speaker 1: rules and modify the process where it's not impacting the 2853 02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:30,600 Speaker 1: game flow as much. And you know, we're only getting 2854 02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:34,040 Speaker 1: involved when something's really off the rail. Darren Hackwa Hey, Luke, 2855 02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:35,840 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us today and good luck with the 2856 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:38,000 Speaker 1: birth of your twins coming up. Yeah, thanks for next 2857 02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:40,680 Speaker 1: month or so maybe, Yeah, pretty soon here any anytime 2858 02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:43,200 Speaker 1: but next month, next month or so, for sure. That's great. 2859 02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:45,160 Speaker 1: You got as you make on the CFL two. We'll 2860 02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:46,800 Speaker 1: get you in here again, do the show again, right right, 2861 02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Thanks us task your joining us today. Production assistance from 2862 02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:54,400 Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Colt, Nick Thomas, Himander, Kelly Rude, JJ Tarito, 2863 02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Cardius, James robol Our, producer Jay Harris. Have a 2864 02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:58,960 Speaker 1: great weekend. We'll see a Monday at Noon with One 2865 02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:01,560 Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented a Lot of Health from the Seneca 2866 02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Studio on Buffalo Bill's Radio