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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted.

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Speaker 2: The Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch, hosted by me, Terry Hatcher,

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Speaker 2: my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen, and my real life

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Speaker 2: daughter Emerson Tenny.

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Speaker 3: This week we are talking about episode seven.

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Speaker 2: Anything You Can Do, which aired November twenty First, can

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Speaker 2: you say thousand four?

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Speaker 3: Can you say anything you can do? Without saying I

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Speaker 3: can do better?

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Speaker 4: I can't?

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Speaker 3: I sing, AMC Yeah, I feel compelled to get up

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Speaker 3: in taplates.

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Speaker 5: That's not really part of a podcast, is it.

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Speaker 4: I mean it could be.

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Speaker 2: This This episode, I have to say, is a huge episode,

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Speaker 2: and it is the first episode where I went, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: I want to binge this hole right.

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Speaker 3: So much happens in this I mean I actually paused

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Speaker 3: it twenty minutes in and I looked at it because

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is crazy. I could not believe

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Speaker 3: how much was happening. At twenty minutes in, which is

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Speaker 3: halfway into the show, you already had Rex serving Bree

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Speaker 3: divorce papers. You had Lynette dubiously scrounging around for more adhdmons,

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Speaker 3: and you had Susan's first official date with Mike totally

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Speaker 3: foiled by this mysterious new girl. And you had Gabby's

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Speaker 3: mother in law finally get onto her affair. I mean

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Speaker 3: that all happened in twenty minutes. What happened in the

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Speaker 3: other twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: I know we'll talk about it today.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, this specific episode is just a masterclass

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Speaker 6: in deepening all of the lead characters' personal stories while

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Speaker 6: continuing to move the mystery plot along.

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Speaker 2: There's so much to get into, and I know that

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Speaker 2: we always like to start with sharing what we found

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Speaker 2: to be our most desperate moments that we're looking forward

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Speaker 2: to talking about when we get into this episode.

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Speaker 4: Yes, what was it for you?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I think for me, I mean it is hard, but

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Speaker 3: I think for me the stress that Lynette is going

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Speaker 3: through and her exhaustion and she's struggling to keep up

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Speaker 3: with her own expectations of herself. I know we touched

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Speaker 3: on it a little bit, that character's like it's starting

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Speaker 3: to explode, you know, from the last episode. But I

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Speaker 3: just find that to be a compelling, relatable issue that

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Speaker 3: just continues to strike me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for me, I would say the most desperate moment

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Speaker 6: is it has to be Missus Hooper dragging that poor

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Speaker 6: collapsed jogger over into Bree's yard just to mess up

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Speaker 6: how pristine and perfect from yards. I mean, I really

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Speaker 6: think that missus Huber is the messiest character.

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Speaker 4: It really is a messy bitch.

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Speaker 2: I hate to say it, Okay, I think I have

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Speaker 2: to say my most desperate moment is Susan jumping into

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Speaker 2: that bull ring, tying up.

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Speaker 4: Her shirt and waving that hat over her head.

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Speaker 2: Which I've got to tell you is a gift on

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Speaker 2: I think text. If you go to text someone like yeehaw,

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Speaker 2: a photo of you doing that or.

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Speaker 1: A little video of you doing and now I know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm incorporating it all.

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Speaker 3: Say yehaw much more often than I did I normally did. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've seen that gift. It's pretty it's pretty funny that

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Speaker 3: that's kind of made it into the whatever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, so okay, great, well this is going to be

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Speaker 3: a big one.

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Speaker 5: So's okay.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with the whole Hydrangea lawn situation.

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Speaker 4: Was unrivaled open in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: It really, it really is, and just.

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Speaker 3: The idea of setting the whole thing up of competition

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Speaker 3: in general. I mean, we were talking a little bit

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Speaker 3: in the last episode about women supporting women or not

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Speaker 3: supporting women, and and and then now here we are

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Speaker 3: with competition and at its core winning and life and

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Speaker 3: your household being a game that you have to.

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Speaker 5: Beat others at and be better. It's sort of amazing.

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Speaker 2: And we just we get that shot where you see

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Speaker 2: the as Mary Alice is narrating, you see the one

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Speaker 5: A tree, lapping him.

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Speaker 2: I love how he starts running harder and harder, obviously

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Speaker 2: culminating in the poor dad bod jogger collapsing hopefully not dead.

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Speaker 3: He has an oxygen mascot. As they wheeled him away, they.

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Speaker 1: But I did think it. I did think he had died.

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Speaker 2: I mean he looked pretty dead in the wheelbarrow that

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Speaker 2: Missus Hooper was wheeling over to breeze lawn.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, missus again.

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Speaker 3: It just you know, we should pick out as scenes

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Speaker 3: should be making a list because I have her Missus

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Speaker 3: Hooper wheelbarrowing the guy over to the other lawn and

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Speaker 3: then dumping him in the hydrangs is beyond it.

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Speaker 6: Is and I completely forgot about it. I mean I

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Speaker 3: But again, we weren't there, yeah, when we was being shot,

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Speaker 3: And I always come back to this.

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Speaker 5: It's like being in a show that I actually.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't in because so much of it happened that I

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Speaker 3: didn't witness being filmed, and so it is exciting to

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Speaker 3: see it. I kind of do wish, you know, I

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Speaker 3: want to say, like to to Christine, like you know.

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Speaker 5: What was that?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: Was it hard to push that guy?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: You know, where the wheels rusty on that wheelbarrel? Every

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Speaker 3: it's not that easyasy you know, she really.

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Speaker 5: Just down sidewalk.

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Speaker 3: I also made me think, do you guys remember in

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Speaker 3: other episodes there have been comments about lawns, like I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Freeze character says something about loving what Mary Alice did

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Speaker 3: with the lawn, and it made me think. We've talked

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Speaker 3: about the writer's room, and we've talked about our fantasy

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Speaker 3: that these writers are having so much fun writing things

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Speaker 3: for John the gardener about you know, his tube socks

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Speaker 3: me think somebody in that writing room is obsessed with lawns.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it is the perfect analogy for the

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Speaker 2: grass is always greener on the other neighbors. Jamerson, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I also have to say big shout out to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: But also Larry Shaw directed this episode, and I was

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Speaker 4: Some of the directing choices.

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Speaker 2: It started with when the body is dumped on Breezelawn,

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Speaker 2: shots that look like it's an NCIS episode, like a

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Speaker 2: the grass have been torn up.

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Speaker 3: Right, And that is the directorial You're right, that was

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Speaker 2: The other directorial choice that I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: Do you hope it does?

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Speaker 2: I no, personally no, And this is no shade at

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Speaker 2: Larry Shaw, but it was a very distinct storytelling choice

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Speaker 2: that as we move, and this is a rapid pace episode,

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Speaker 2: so it deserves these you know, propulsive quick camera movements forward.

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Speaker 2: But as we cut for each woman's storyline into the

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Speaker 2: to intersperse the different character storylines. And it happens upwards

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Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't notice it either. That's so interesting,

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Speaker 3: super you know. I ran into Larry Shaw not that

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Speaker 3: long ago. I had a nail salon in Studio City.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, my love.

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Speaker 3: And he's a new grand father, like a first time grandfather.

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Speaker 3: I think that maybe he was saying the baby was

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Speaker 3: and I think he was going to get a pedicure.

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Speaker 3: He might have been getting a massage or something.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He sort of walked, but we totally caught up, and

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Speaker 3: you know, just like, so good to see your Larry.

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Speaker 2: Arry.

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Speaker 3: I have good I have such good feelings about Larry.

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Speaker 3: Larry and I had a thing. This is well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not a thing. We didn't have a thing. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean no, we didn't have as.

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Speaker 5: We didn't have a thing. But you talk about you know.

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Speaker 3: You work for like fourteen fifteen, sixteen hours and sometimes

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Speaker 3: But it is crazy that I remember it twenty years later.

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Speaker 3: For some reason. We got on a conversation about when

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Speaker 4: That is honestly one of the joys of being a human, right,

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Speaker 3: It is completely one of the joys of being a human,

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Speaker 3: conversation Larry Shaw and I had twenty something years ago.

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Speaker 3: And I still when I think of Larry Shaw, I

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Speaker 5: Oh not whippans. I bet you would like that.

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Speaker 6: You know. I have to say I have known Larry

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Speaker 6: Shaw longer than I have known either of you.

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So he directed the season before Desperate Housewives. I was

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Speaker 6: ABC show called That was Then, and it was a

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Speaker 6: great show. We only got to shoot eight episodes. It

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Speaker 6: was canceled after two. But Larry Shaw directed on that,

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Speaker 3: So I always liked his personality. Yeah, I liked his

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Speaker 3: vision and I liked.

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Speaker 4: His I liked his vision too. I just the Whippans

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to go back and look at that again,

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Speaker 6: but I did because we touched on how competition is

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Speaker 6: a major theme in this episode, and I was curious

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Speaker 6: if you guys identify as competitive.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've written down here in my like notes everyone.

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Speaker 4: Which there was no competition about the listeners.

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Speaker 3: I have to let everybody know that. Emerson was just

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Speaker 1: Which is which is what she's going to do.

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Speaker 4: Well, which is you know? And of course we compare

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Speaker 2: It's how we make decisions about what you know, detergent

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Speaker 5: I mean, you.

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Speaker 6: Get your real job, you get it at home from Wow.

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Speaker 3: And I really always wished for siblings.

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Speaker 3: And then too that there would be somebody else there

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's I mean, we could get a therapist

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Speaker 3: as you said, you can't go back, you can't change

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Speaker 3: it whatever. So you look at what you got out

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So ye, Andrea, if you only have one child.

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Speaker 2: this scene, I am like, Tom, come on, how.

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Speaker 5: Great is this where you actually wrote something down?

447
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Speaker 2: When you do that, I didn't have that that happens later, Okay,

448
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: but no, I think I just I was really I

449
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: was frustrated at Tom, and more than frustrated, you know what,

450
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 2: I was disappointed in him.

451
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Speaker 3: I know we said this maybe an episode two or

452
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Speaker 3: episode three, that like, the men are really standing out

453
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: to me as their character development happens, and in a

454
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Speaker 3: way that I think when we were shooting it, we

455
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 3: were so absorbed in like what the women's storylines were

456
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 3: and also what was happening to us as a show

457
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Speaker 3: in the real world that I don't know that I

458
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Speaker 3: I don't know, considered, especially since I didn't work with

459
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Speaker 3: Doug and I didn't work with Mark, and I didn't

460
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: work with Ricardo. Like I wasn't really considering. I wonder

461
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: what their journey is like on this, But when you

462
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 3: look at it, all that comes up for me is

463
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Speaker 3: how did Doug do this? He must have felt like

464
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: such an ass, right, Oh?

465
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

466
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Speaker 6: And it's kind of interesting because as a viewer, I

467
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Speaker 6: have to say that I can recognize the behavior is bad,

468
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Speaker 6: and yet I still find Tom to be very likable.

469
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Speaker 1: I think that, do you know, amazing ability as.

470
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Speaker 6: A performer to to straddle both of those lines.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in some ways their marriage is my favorite marriage.

472
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Speaker 4: On the show.

473
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Speaker 2: Even though in this moment I found found myself going

474
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Speaker 2: and I think it is because, speaking of competition, I

475
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Speaker 2: am so competitive with myself that I really felt for

476
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Speaker 2: Lynette in this moment because I feel like when I

477
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Speaker 2: am in the process of working on something and I

478
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Speaker 2: have all of my own self criticisms in my head

479
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Speaker 2: and all of the different bars I've set for myself

480
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Speaker 2: in my head that I need to achieve at a

481
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Speaker 2: certain time, and I'm walking around just carrying this universe

482
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Speaker 2: of competition inside of me, and then one external voice goes, oh,

483
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Speaker 2: you couldn't do that better?

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Speaker 4: That can like completely fell me.

485
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Speaker 1: Right, you know, just Derail, I really.

486
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Speaker 2: I really felt. I feel like Lynette is that type

487
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Speaker 2: of person as well.

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Speaker 6: And of course she's keeping the secret right now that

489
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Speaker 6: her whole inner world is sort of collapsing as she's

490
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Speaker 6: utilizing this ADHD medication to get her Yeah, so she's

491
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Speaker 6: got keeping that from from Tom and so that only

492
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Speaker 6: his comment only fuels that battle. Whether or not it's

493
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Speaker 6: a full blown addiction, I don't know, but that that

494
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 6: struggle she's having it only fuels it to go even further.

495
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Speaker 6: And then she takes it on by saying, no, you

496
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Speaker 6: know what, let's do it. Let's go ahead and have that.

497
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Speaker 6: Let's go ahead and have that dinner party and see

498
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Speaker 6: which see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I just feel and we have we have

500
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Speaker 2: so many different storylines kind of getting fueled to go

501
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Speaker 2: even further. You know, we have the women showing up

502
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Speaker 2: to the book club, which.

503
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Speaker 3: By the way, I no, no, you got I was

504
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Speaker 3: just gonna say I didn't remember that at all.

505
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Speaker 2: Oh really no, clearly because you saw the movie and

506
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Speaker 2: you didn't read the book.

507
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Speaker 3: I loved that all the housewives were just like flipping

508
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Speaker 3: through it, trying to get to the back page as

509
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Speaker 3: fast as we did.

510
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Speaker 1: Solve one thing. The baby's back. Lynnette's baby is in

511
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Speaker 1: that scene.

512
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Speaker 6: Oh my god, you are Sonette is pushing a stroller

513
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 6: and so there is a apparently allegedly a baby in there.

514
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Speaker 2: So some producer got in there and I was like,

515
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: it's actually been seven episodes.

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the baby, the baby. Yeah.

517
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Speaker 3: I didn't remember there being a book club on Wisteria Lane,

518
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Speaker 3: and I would bet you guys twenty dollars that we

519
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Speaker 3: don't have a book club again in this season.

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Speaker 2: Well, clearly you're using it as an excuse for wine.

521
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: And then also to split off into the little click,

522
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Speaker 2: which I love when Brie, again Brie, with all of

523
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Speaker 2: the amazing moments, does so you helped me with the appetizers,

524
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Speaker 2: and then she shuts the other woman whoever they are,

525
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Speaker 2: who are they in the kitchen and turns back and says,

526
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: you know, okay, what is going on? Right?

527
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Speaker 3: And Susan reveals what she found out from Julie about Zach.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the mysterious Dana name, which we will find out,

529
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Speaker 2: you know, a potential lead of who that relates to

530
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Speaker 2: later when Lynette and Susan find the blanket.

531
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Speaker 4: In her garage.

532
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Speaker 2: So we have that going on, and then across the

533
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Speaker 2: street we have Paul, who they're all talking about. Who's

534
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: hired this p I right, which is actually my favorite

535
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: line comes from our wonderful private Investigators have.

536
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Speaker 1: The same favorite line.

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Speaker 4: Again, I get to say this.

538
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Speaker 2: You said last week that's right, and I'm not competitive. No,

539
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Speaker 2: my favorite line was when he looks at Paul and

540
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Speaker 2: he goes sometimes evil drives a minivan.

541
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's so good. That's my favorite line.

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Speaker 6: And I love when, and this has happened a few

543
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Speaker 6: times for us, when the guest stars or the recurring

544
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Speaker 6: characters are the ones who have our favorite lines. I

545
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 6: just think that's so cool that our writers wrote everyone

546
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 6: so well that it wasn't only reserved for the main cast.

547
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 6: You know, that wealth of interesting, exciting, fiery, funny dialogue

548
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 6: was really spread out evenly.

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it also puts you as a writer if

550
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Speaker 2: I feel like they are creating a world that all

551
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: exists in the same tone, you know, all not the

552
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: characters all sound very distinct, which of course, is the

553
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: hallmark of a good writer to have distinct different characters' voices,

554
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: but I feel like they speak and exist in a similar,

555
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: somewhat heightened reality. That then makes the whole show work

556
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: because everyone's existing on the same plane of that somewhat

557
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: soapy but also grounded world that everyone's buying into.

558
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tricky but wonderful.

559
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

560
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So then we've got Bri and Rex that they

561
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Speaker 3: are called into the principal's office.

562
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Speaker 4: They need to be called into the principles.

563
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Speaker 3: And I love this scene. I loved the different points

564
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Speaker 3: of view of the of Brie and Rex. I mean,

565
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: because their son punches somebody and breaks his nose, I guess.

566
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Speaker 4: Their son is struggling.

567
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and in a real way. I mean,

568
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: I think kids going through divorce can have a really

569
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: hard time, especially when they're older, and they and they

570
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: you know, and I don't think this is a family

571
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: that's very good at expressing and communicating their feelings obviously,

572
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: so I'm sure that only makes it worse.

573
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Speaker 2: But I mean, it's it is. I guess classic how

574
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Speaker 2: one parent has this. You know, it's not that big

575
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: of a deal. We can just pay for it and

576
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, apologize and me and the and and the

577
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: other one.

578
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 5: It has a completely other reaction.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

580
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Speaker 6: I also thought it was interesting from a character development

581
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 6: standpoint that once again you have Rex doing revealing something

582
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Speaker 6: about their personal life in a public way. So him

583
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 6: revealing to bree that he went to a divorce attorney

584
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Speaker 6: and he will be serving her papers that day that day,

585
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 6: that happens in front of the principle, It doesn't he

586
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Speaker 6: And I wonder why can't he do this in a

587
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 6: private way, the way that bree clearly has demanded and

588
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 6: asked for and expresses a preference for, and he always

589
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 6: does it in a public way. And I think it's,

590
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Speaker 6: like I wondered to myself watching it, is Rex so

591
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 6: scared of what Breez's real reaction would be behind closed

592
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 6: doors that he.

593
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Speaker 3: Has to do it just so mad. Yeah, and he

594
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: wants to humiliate her. Yeah, I don't know.

595
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

596
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: Then we get that great cut back to the principal,

597
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: and I think detention will be okay, you.

598
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 6: Going on, but yeah, but but but yeah, there's a

599
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 6: lot to go with the dynamics between bri and Rex

600
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 6: nownavigating the potential dissolution of their marriage and how it

601
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 6: relates to their children in this episode.

602
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: And I really felt like in that scene in particular,

603
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: I think both Brie and Rex are using their son

604
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: as a vehicle to talk about Rex more than they

605
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: are to actually talk about their son. You know, Brie

606
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: is saying someone needs to hold him accountable, someone needs

607
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: to stand up.

608
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: For his behavior.

609
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: It feels like all of her anger at her husband

610
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: is being directed onto their sons acting out, and Rex

611
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: is kind of classically going, I don't think it's that

612
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: big of a deal. I think maybe he was justified

613
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: in it. And it feels like he could even be

614
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: talking about himself a little bit.

615
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Speaker 1: That's super interesting.

616
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we get back to you brought it

617
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: up a little bit. Susan and Julie getting ready for

618
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: the date and the whole looks so pretty in that scene.

619
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Speaker 3: D that dress is hideous. I actually have my note

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Speaker 3: is wtf? Exclamation point exclamation Can we talk about that dress? Okay?

621
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Speaker 1: On mine in all caps?

622
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 6: Terry looks amazing in that date dress? What do you

623
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 6: remember about where were there multiple choices or was that

624
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 6: was that?

625
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Or do you remember?

626
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: I I don't exactly remember I feel like there probably

627
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: were some choices, but I I don't think I felt

628
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Speaker 3: confident in that. Really, No, I don't think so. And

629
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Speaker 3: then like, look, is that because it was tight? Yeah,

630
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: I think so. I think I think so. And I'm

631
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: not sure I was wearing a bra and I think

632
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: that makes me.

633
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 5: Up to I don't know.

634
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what it's worth. I got I read.

635
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 5: What the hell?

636
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: And your hair looked amazing. Yeah, and I just loved

637
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: the framing of you in the foreground.

638
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 6: Kind of a nineties vibe, which was, you know, it

639
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 6: was obviously two thousand and four, but I felt like

640
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 6: it gave great nineties vibes.

641
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Speaker 5: Okay, So my.

642
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Speaker 3: Favorite thing about the thing, yes, is I think we

643
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: just have to say that this is the point in

644
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: the story where it becomes very clear that Edie and

645
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: Susan are going to be the best Foils ever.

646
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, it is like frickin' frack.

647
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: In fact, they should just do the Edie and Susan

648
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: show because it is really I I don't want to

649
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: say I didn't remember Nicolette being so good, because I

650
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: knew she was good, but like it's sort of the

651
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: way we're I keep talking about Marsha like and I

652
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: wasn't there for a lot of breeze scenes, but I

653
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: mean Nicolette's delivery of some of this stuff is just

654
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: it's just flawless, comedic timing. It's so much fun.

655
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Speaker 6: Yes, since we covered Emerson's favorite line, which happened to

656
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 6: also be my favorite line, I'll take this as a

657
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 6: very strong backup option because I did think it was fantastic,

658
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 6: which is when Edie says, get a load of you.

659
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 6: You look so pretty. I hardly recognized you. And Nicolette's

660
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 6: delivery was perfect and what a line, what a backhanded compliment.

661
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: And then the physical comedy of how confidently Susan trots

662
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: across the street in her sexy.

663
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Speaker 4: Little dress and then.

664
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Speaker 2: Mike has his unexpected to visit her when she walks

665
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Speaker 2: back across the street with the purse in front of

666
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Speaker 2: her face, like she doesn't want Edie to say anything

667
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, it's just this that really killed.

668
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: But aren't they just great together?

669
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

670
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: Oh they're still great. I want the use.

671
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: Of f yi between the two of them.

672
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: I also felt like that was very y two K

673
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: texting abbreviation.

674
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: Just f yi.

675
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I have to say too, just on a

676
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 6: slightly more hefty note. I have this recollection about Susan

677
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 6: and the court of public opinion about Susan kind of

678
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 6: being the most desperate one or the most at least

679
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 6: in the category of love, you know, and maybe.

680
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: That I've heard the annoying okay, okay, or maybe annoying

681
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: the most.

682
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: And only may.

683
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that might be true as we continue on

684
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: and we learn more and more about Susan and whatever.

685
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 6: But I have to say, I just want to applaud Susan.

686
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 6: I just want to give some kudos to Susan in

687
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 6: these early episodes, because she is being really transparent with Mike.

688
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 6: You know. She is like when she when when she

689
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 6: sees that there's this mysterious hot girl there, hot woman, my.

690
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: God, bending into the convertible and hers.

691
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: And her jeans, and she's just there and beautiful.

692
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 6: And she could try to be cool in front of Mike,

693
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 6: and she could try to act like, oh, I don't care,

694
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 6: that doesn't throw me. I'm I'm confident, quote unquote, you know,

695
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: I'm unflappable, and instead she chooses to say, no, actually,

696
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 6: I am a little confused as to what is going

697
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 6: on here.

698
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: You know, now you're canceling our date. We finally have a.

699
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: Date, and and she chooses to confront him, and I thought, hey,

700
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 6: way to go. That is really cool. And so I

701
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 6: felt like that was a great moment for Susan. She

702
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 6: was being brave and for flammable, she's not unable.

703
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: I mean I am.

704
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: I am rooting for them to come together because I

705
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: love you see how much he wants it too. I

706
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: mean Susan doesn't see it, but we see as the viewer.

707
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, even the cut back and forth to I

708
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: loved seeing their various Mic and Susan support systems for

709
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: getting ready for the date. You've Susan with Julie obviously

710
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: getting ready. Julie is giving her her time about protection

711
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: and how she doesn't want to she wants to remain

712
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: an only child.

713
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: But then you cut to Mike.

714
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: With the dog with the dog and he's asking how

715
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: he looks, and he's trying on his blazer, and I could.

716
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 6: Just cry, I could Mike secutity. Mike's acute with a secret,

717
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 6: but acuting I.

718
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: Know with a secret that that deepens continually this episode

719
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: as other secrets. Yes, well, I was going to say

720
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: Gabby's secret. Mm hm, Wanita is finally onto we have Okay,

721
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: I need a moment for the red flip phone flip

722
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: phone that she the rose on the bed that then

723
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: Wanita picks up and here's John. What does he say,

724
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: if you're going to talk dirty to me, don't.

725
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Even try to talk dirty to you know, to make

726
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: it up to me or something.

727
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: Exactly the worst thing you could say to someone who

728
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: was very incriminal.

729
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.

730
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: I did have a pang over the flip phones I

731
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 6: and I know I think only the BlackBerry. Yeah, I

732
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 6: think these things are kind of coming back. I've heard

733
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 6: that there might be flip phones back in coming back nowadays.

734
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 6: I think there's something very satisfying about hanging up a phone,

735
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 6: and we can't do that today's phone.

736
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 4: Hanging up on someone.

737
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 6: You know, when you flip the phone closed, it does

738
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 6: feel like there's a finality to the conversation you were

739
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 6: having in versus just a little like boop with your fingers.

740
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 6: So I appreciated the flip phone moment as well, Emerson,

741
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 6: I really liked that part.

742
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I also really appreciated the scene between Edie

743
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: and Paul.

744
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: Oh well, talk about mysteries deepening.

745
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and I loved the choice that Nicolette made

746
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: to be putting on lipstick and sort of like to

747
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: make a casual thing out of talking about someone killing

748
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: themselves in the house. Yeah, to play that juxtaposition of like,

749
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: I'm not really paying attention to this, It's more important

750
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: for me to get my lipstick exactly right. But yes,

751
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: you can't have a dead person in the house and

752
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: still sell it for a good price, you.

753
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 5: Know, like that. Yeah, she did such a good job. Yeah,

754
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 5: she really did. She really did.

755
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 6: And how convenient that we have a realtor right on

756
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 6: the block. I thought that, I know, you know, she's

757
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 6: right there. You can just say, hey, can you sell

758
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 6: the house?

759
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: But even more convenient, he gets the paper exactly she

760
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: leaves behind her her binder, which has that I love

761
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: that the private investigator has tracked the paper distributor of

762
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: the lavender paper that the note has come on. And

763
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: then we find that blank, blank slip of paper, which

764
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: it was interesting to me.

765
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: Because in Edie's notebook blank. Yeah, And I was like,

766
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 4: was she gonna write another note?

767
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: Did she write the note stationary?

768
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: You could keep your stationary. I think it's her stationary,

769
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: she gets.

770
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: Her number and all a lot.

771
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 6: Yes, I think she has it everywhere with her just

772
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 6: a little slip so that she can pass around those digits.

773
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: But it's a cool way that the storyline is that

774
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 3: mystery part is starting to reveal itself. Yeah, and also

775
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: the mysterious girl. And this is back to my stopping

776
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: the thing at twenty minutes going oh my god, like

777
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: Gabby's mother in law knows she's she's having an affair,

778
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: Like there's all this mystery that's happening. Lynette's life is

779
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: blowing up.

780
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: So is Breeze. It was a lot, Yeah, it was

781
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: a lot.

782
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: It was a jam packed episode. And then we get

783
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Rex bribing his children. Yeah, with a car. I mean

784
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: that's the biggest bribe. I feel like you can give

785
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: a child who is of driving barely of driving age.

786
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: And then also with the modeling agency works University for

787
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: what is it called, it's like New York.

788
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: Model New York.

789
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's name for Danielle, which obviously Gabby has kind

790
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: of teed up because she wants to get rid of

791
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: the boyfriend's teenage girls.

792
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: Talk about competition.

793
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: They're not backing off of this teenage affair thing.

794
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I I did actually write down

795
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: here you go, I said, whoa, wow, Gabby is so

796
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: predatory in this scene with John. Honestly, it's giving what

797
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: we would now call the term grooming, even though they

798
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: didn't have the term for that.

799
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: Then oh wow, yeah, yeah, all the way, it is

800
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 4: a little bit.

801
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: I think I agree that I did kind of find

802
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: myself asking.

803
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Why you know, so manipulated and you're an adult. I mean,

804
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Gabby's character, isn't it just But.

805
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 6: Here's something I had written down, which is that Gabrielle

806
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 6: which says to John on the phone, Oh, that sounds

807
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 6: like you're it sounds like you have a date. Well,

808
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 6: I have a problem with you seeing other girls, And

809
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 6: I wrote down I think it's very interesting she uses

810
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 6: the term girls as though she's including herself, you know,

811
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 6: and like why I mean, she of course can't use

812
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 6: the word women because Danielle is not, you know, a woman,

813
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 6: She is, in fact a girl.

814
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: But I thought that is weird. What is going on

815
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: with Gabrielle?

816
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's the sex that good?

817
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: Or like, I mean, okay, do you have like Ben

818
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: having been a teenager, I can't imagine it is right,

819
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it is.

820
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 6: That not a good excuse won't hold up in court,

821
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 6: you know, not a good enough excuse even if it

822
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 6: is that good.

823
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I wonder what. I wonder what she

824
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: felt about this storyline, you know, And again I can.

825
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: Only because she's she's doing such good job.

826
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: And that kind of goes back to I think it's

827
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: an actor's responsibilit to fill up, fill up the homework,

828
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: you know, fill up the why is a character behaving

829
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: the way they're behaving, even if the audience never hears that.

830
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: You have to do something for yourself. So it would

831
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: be interesting to hear what she created or if she

832
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: like kind of bumped up against this, or maybe she

833
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: didn't like maybe it's just funny, right and clever, and

834
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: maybe you just don't think about it.

835
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, but at this point, I'll say, in the storyline,

836
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: I feel as though, in terms of redeeming themselves, I

837
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: would think Gabrielle and Carlos have the most work to

838
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 6: do as.

839
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: A unit to redeem their characters.

840
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 5: Definitely, and they're.

841
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 6: Both wonderful and doing a great job. There is so

842
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 6: much more of this episode to talk about. I mean,

843
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 6: Lynette strung out in the park breeze, heartbroken before our eyes,

844
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 6: as her children take Rex's side in their breakup, and

845
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 6: the iconic.

846
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Full riding scene with Susan and Edie. So stay tuned.

847
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Part two of this episode will drop later this week.

848
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

849
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 6: Until then, we remain despertly devoted to you.

850
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: M hmm,