WEBVTT - A Single Life

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 4>Done done, Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Freshot well HOODI international HOODI hoo day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oh my god, how did you celebrate? Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, this is thats messed up. But I'm Kara Klank,

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<v Speaker 1>one of your hosts, and I'm Liza Traeger. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>SVU crime. We have no guests, We're busy. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>guests soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been fuking since seven am, so but it's my

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<v Speaker 2>own making. So you can't. You can't I mean soul Cycle,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank God, give me the credit back. I sent them screenshots.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, because I was eating a friend, I

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<v Speaker 2>go just do it, Just do it. I put on

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<v Speaker 2>the athletic weir and then I kept puking in a

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<v Speaker 2>sports sprat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I can't make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually got up and got the clothes on. That's wow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually got roasted yesterday because I go getting the

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<v Speaker 2>packages that save me money stresses me out because what

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't make it, and then I'm wasting it

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<v Speaker 2>and this and that and they go. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>you're setting alarms and signing up six days in advance,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're really.

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<v Speaker 3>Going and you're just scared that it'll like constrict me.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically, look at my I mean, Kara Hi, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>That video of your kids was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But look where I was yesterday, Kasa Chipriani, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>U La La.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I had Manhattan's Oh, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>went to a Rosebud's Netflix special her hers just came out.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, I was like, I'm not going I have research.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I go to Big Up. Let's just it

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<v Speaker 2>was at Soho House. I go, how funny to go

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<v Speaker 2>from one private club to another? And then I had

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<v Speaker 2>three more of Manhattans. Oh boy, and everyone was like, wow, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it all. Look at you. You're gonna soul,

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna do research, you podcast, You're you're an icon

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<v Speaker 2>and ha ha, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>No my body Manhattans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my body said, are you out of your fucking mind?

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<v Speaker 2>You old bitch? Get to bed. So it's I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>Baile at this point Oh my god, I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>too much. It's too much, but Costa Chipriani, I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to know. It's like a member's only club. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very oligarc in there. Yeah, I mean, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>the chickest place of it. It's really fucking nice. It's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gorgeous. But when I walked in, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>door guys angel, they were all nice, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, let him have it, just fucking let them

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<v Speaker 2>have it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really let them have it. But they like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were performing, yes for the wealthy. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know if maybe somebody just brought you like, I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I hope I did well.

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<v Speaker 1>Then on the way out, the door guy was like,

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<v Speaker 1>the owner was in there. I heard it was good.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, I let them have it, and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully they'll give me a membership so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh low.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also I know I did say free, Luigi,

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<v Speaker 2>you all better fucking watch out. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>being crazy. I was like, I live in the East village.

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<v Speaker 2>It was silent. I go where your maids live.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, like I was kind of like, check your drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>check your drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>One guy was in a in a blue button down

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, you're in a worker shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh you work for Like it was I had a

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<v Speaker 2>great fashion girlies model. I mean it was like, but wow,

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<v Speaker 2>SOHO house is more creatives than like young professionals. They

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like they try to be artsy. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been to a place like this like this was. This

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<v Speaker 2>was nuts. I felt like, I guess this is where

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<v Speaker 2>you know Leo hangs.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, but he's I love this as like a niche

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<v Speaker 1>like market, like a niche like thing for you that

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<v Speaker 1>you just do, like really really high end corporates where

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<v Speaker 1>you roast the ship out of the one person.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be such a because on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want to get your asses red. Get Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>trigger in here. At the end, I'm like, please make

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<v Speaker 1>a difference, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to say something, but at the end, like

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<v Speaker 2>every server was, the hostesses were like, well that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was fun, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt good, but I actually got I do have

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<v Speaker 2>a thanks everyone that came from Portland. So listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>In the front row a couple obviously I do a

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<v Speaker 2>little crowd work. He is the CEO and creator of

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<v Speaker 2>wild gummies. There are the ones in the white container

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<v Speaker 2>in like those little box. Yes, yes, oh there's the

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<v Speaker 2>packaging's really pretty right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I go, did you bring me any He goes no.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, okay, I go, are you a millionaire? And

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<v Speaker 2>he goes and I go, I mean, this is crazy

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't bring man. After the show he comes up

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<v Speaker 2>to me. He goes, yeah, this is my fiance. Last

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<v Speaker 2>time I was at the comedy cellar years ago, you

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<v Speaker 2>made fun of me and said I didn't deserve love.

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<v Speaker 2>So on Valentine's Day he decided to be came front

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<v Speaker 2>row and sat with his fiance in the front to go, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually did find love.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitch, Oh my god, Why would I say that to him?

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<v Speaker 3>Psychotic?

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<v Speaker 1>He must have been doing something. He had he had

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<v Speaker 1>his arms crossed in a bitchy way. There was some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my fun. I also, I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this on Stop. You reposted my local news clip, but

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a karaoke strip club.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean watching you tell those women on local news.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, like I posted this in the That's

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<v Speaker 1>myst Up Stories, but it's on Lisa's page two.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny because they're like any dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we talked to Hazel back in the day

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you were just like, oh no, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing karaoke while the strippers they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that was so good. They were like, we get

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<v Speaker 1>that in New York. I'm like, I'm sure you ladies

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<v Speaker 1>will go all the time if they get.

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<v Speaker 3>That in New York. But spent hundreds of dollars. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I like throwing money at women. It is something I enjoy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun. Yeah I did it. Yeah, I've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>But but I was cool. We did Backstreet. I know

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<v Speaker 2>someone there that did mine my back, my back, I

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<v Speaker 2>knew people did fun and then one person went up

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<v Speaker 2>and did Enya. And it's like, oh, you're so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Like now the stripper's not gonna make money, you dumb bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that is annoying. That is really annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now you got to talk. Okay, I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as this is released, we will have just been

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<v Speaker 1>back from DC, so a future in the this is

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<v Speaker 1>past Kara telling you that, thank you everybody who came

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<v Speaker 1>out in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and I'm sorry, Kara, but I took it

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<v Speaker 3>I'm taking a train to d C.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a train from DC back to New York. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I.

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<v Speaker 2>See, Yeah, I am never not buckling up my I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on airplane mode. I'm sitting up right, I am listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the instructions.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not yeah terrified. Oh yeah, yeah. I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought I'm bragging about the train, Kara.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I thought you were making I know, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were making a joke about how like you like

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<v Speaker 1>to fly and that you're taking like the train, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even put it together with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>planes are falling out of the sky at a rapid

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<v Speaker 1>rate and I'm actually flying on Friday Saturday. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually like going like l l l like every time

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about plane crashing because I'm like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go. But we can cut that part. It's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>too dark. Uh no, oh yeah, it's too dark for

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<v Speaker 1>a rape podcast. I know it's fine. Well, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is the last time you hear from me, I died

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<v Speaker 1>on my way to d C to perform for you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love you, yeah, or boeing or Boeing guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a Sassineeah, I'm a whistleblower. I really loved

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<v Speaker 2>the video of your kids in gender roles, naturally, so

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<v Speaker 2>I posted this video on my kid's private page of

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<v Speaker 2>we always go to Rosie's little friend's house, and Oscar

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<v Speaker 2>loves going there because she has all these princess dresses

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<v Speaker 2>and she has a fucking tiaras and rings and all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rosie's not in any of that shit, and really

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<v Speaker 1>her friend isn't that much either, So like Oscar just

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<v Speaker 1>is like, bye, ladies and lets them go do what

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<v Speaker 1>they want. And he is like he literally kept going.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many beautiful things. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>can't decide. Like he was free, he was having like

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<v Speaker 1>a stylist crisis, and then he just got into like

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<v Speaker 1>full you know, sort of aerial Princess Elsa or Queen

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<v Speaker 1>Elsa drag and was wearing a little clip on earrings

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<v Speaker 1>and like he looked so cute, and I just was

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<v Speaker 1>video videoing them because I thought they were cute. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Rosie comes on with like a pick axe she

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<v Speaker 1>made out of popsicle sticks, and it's just like pick

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<v Speaker 1>act pick axe, and I'm like, look at this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like perfect example, like gender is a construct,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not real. Because Oscar also keeps telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that what he turns for he wants to become

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<v Speaker 1>a girl. So we're talking about it, what we're working

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<v Speaker 1>him through it, Like I'm like, well what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Because like he's like, I just want to match Rosie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, I mean you have long hair,

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<v Speaker 1>she has long hair. She wears sweatpants. You wear sweatpants?

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<v Speaker 1>What what else?

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<v Speaker 3>What else?

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<v Speaker 1>Want? What do you want to become a girl? And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I gotta think about it. So supporting him

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<v Speaker 1>and supporting him in his quest, I did book a trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Did book a trip to take the children to Lego

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<v Speaker 1>Land for Rosie's birthday. So if anybody's got the hot

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<v Speaker 1>Lego Land tips, please send them my way.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to talk about that real that I

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<v Speaker 3>sent you. Oh yeah, wait, that's right. What was it again?

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<v Speaker 2>It was basically this bride the morning of her wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>she goes to room to see her husband and he

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<v Speaker 2>is breastfeeding on his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>As a full grown man, and I think she called

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<v Speaker 1>off the wedding. I would, yeah, because that's.

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<v Speaker 2>The real mentioned, Like the milk's not coming out anymore

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<v Speaker 2>unless she is really you know, grapes of wraththing all

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<v Speaker 2>over town straight up.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yea, and the dad was standing there. No,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so creepy. I like when you honestly, my phone like.

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<v Speaker 1>Got hot, I felt like I had to drop it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I got to the like point of that real,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh no, gross ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a lot of things people go through with

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<v Speaker 1>on their wedding. Like I heard of a girl I

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<v Speaker 1>was friends with a girl like through another friend, she

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<v Speaker 1>was cheating on her on her fiance day.

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<v Speaker 3>They got married.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy that she was cheating with like contacted her fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>They still got married. He was like, I've been having

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<v Speaker 1>with your wife, don't do this. They got married, they

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<v Speaker 1>got divorced pretty quick, but they still went through the

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<v Speaker 1>with the wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>People like make deposits, they like want to have the party,

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<v Speaker 1>But the breastfeeding that would be tough.

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<v Speaker 3>That'd be very.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough to still get out there and do your little

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<v Speaker 1>dance to fucking at last, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be really tough. Oh my god, are you caught

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<v Speaker 1>up on druggers? Just just not last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>I am, I'm really not agreeing with the elimination.

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<v Speaker 3>So uh oh, we're getting down to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, who are your faves right I guess they're changing

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<v Speaker 2>rules as they please for the edit, Like it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of annoying, but I'm also not a professional.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are your faves right now? Who do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to see win it?

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<v Speaker 2>I am always cheering for an older queen, so Lexi,

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<v Speaker 2>lex yeahxy Lexi.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I like.

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<v Speaker 1>This one the curls Susie too. No, she has no

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<v Speaker 1>black curls. She's more magic. Oh oh jewel sparkles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like jewels. Sparkles. Yeah, sparkles is cute. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, yeah, yeah, you didn't watch it? Yeah? Those

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<v Speaker 3>are mine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like tops are gonna be Susie Anya.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Anya for sure?

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<v Speaker 1>On your nerve is fun And it's funny because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really liking Corey, even though I do think Corey's

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<v Speaker 1>drag is bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think like they have good confessional and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny faces and stuff, you know, like I can see

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<v Speaker 1>Whey they sort of keep some people in there for that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm with Corey, but I mean I watched fashion photo,

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever, I'm not going to ruin anything. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like there was a challenge and she just went. I

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<v Speaker 2>just decided I didn't like the challenge, so I did

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<v Speaker 2>my own thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, that's not I know.

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<v Speaker 1>When she did the egg thing, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>makes no fucking sense wearing moment.

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<v Speaker 2>She's confusing. But yeah, I'm obsessed with her too. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think she should win, but I'm happy with

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<v Speaker 2>her making top four or five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe she'll be like a miscongeniality or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she care. Sorry to interrupt, you could say

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<v Speaker 2>it I saw. I mean this might be I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the cutest dog I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you guys ready? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all wow with the tongue out. Okay, we'll post it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta text it to me now so I can

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<v Speaker 1>post it. So it just makes sense. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that is really fucking cute. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dog. That's really cute. It's like the shadiest

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<v Speaker 1>at local news. I was there on a dog day there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's canine Tuesday. Canine Tuesday. Oh they knew how to

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<v Speaker 1>schedule you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one dog got adopted that was a different dog,

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<v Speaker 2>and then this, uh, this dog was tasting homemade dog

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<v Speaker 2>treat segment.

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<v Speaker 3>People are making homemade dog treats.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, I mean people are spending Oh my god, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch White Lotus yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Being a Walter Goggins's beloved love him.

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<v Speaker 2>So his architectural digest showed up and I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>So then his GQ like things I can't live without,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't want to watch it, but I saw

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<v Speaker 2>backgammon board m hm.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he brings it.

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<v Speaker 2>He opens it and he goes, way, I've been looking

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<v Speaker 2>for that, and he starts like getting emotional because he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>we just moved from La back to New York. He goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't opened this. Backgammon just means so much to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, this isn't planned. These are things I put

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<v Speaker 2>in for safekeeping that I've been searching for. He goes,

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<v Speaker 2>for four years, I've been looking for this stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't planned. And it was like homemade ornaments from

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<v Speaker 2>his parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it was in his backgammon setcase.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's god. It had like he travels a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It had like gemstones and like it just had like

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<v Speaker 2>like he was truly overwhelmed gemstones.

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<v Speaker 1>Appropriate way. She still loves gems. Oh no, but also

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the Righteous Gemstones. Rosie still gets hugely excited

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<v Speaker 1>about gems. I just got them last week. Get at

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<v Speaker 1>a party. I went to my annual party. Barely keeps

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<v Speaker 1>she I'm barely keeping up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>TV has finally gotten too busy for me. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't watched White Lotus yet. I am miraculously keeping up

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<v Speaker 1>with the Traders because I the stuff that's on Peacock.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't go to Peacock to get it. I

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<v Speaker 3>need my DVR.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I am. We're in a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>Housewives drought right now. Right there's like nothing that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Beverly Hills and Beverly Hills. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>a Potomac reunion. Yeah, and we're gonna I barely care about.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get Miami soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah yeah, I mean I started Southern Hospitality. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, you do because the commercials come on

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm always like, who is watching this?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's you.

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<v Speaker 2>They're dumb, they're hot and they're they're busy at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottle service.

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<v Speaker 3>What's what city? Are they in? Savannah?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are they?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's Charleston. It's Leva from Southern Charms nightclub. She

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<v Speaker 2>owns a name.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so it's all crossover. It's the vander Pump situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got it, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just cheating on each other basically, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sexy people cheating on each other. Sexy people cheating

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<v Speaker 1>on each other. Which leads me to my next question

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<v Speaker 1>for you, because I have been following through us through

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<v Speaker 1>Bravo accounts or whatever a little bit the page and

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<v Speaker 1>the crag of it all, and I don't get it

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<v Speaker 1>because it sounded like they came out and they had

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<v Speaker 1>this like pretty amicable thing where they like where they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yeah, we're separating or whatever. But then it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out he says he was blindsided, and then people

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to accuse her of having a side piece,

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<v Speaker 1>and she or a boyfriend or a cheating and already

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<v Speaker 1>has a new boyfriend and people are like that. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true. What's going on? Give me the quit page?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I think it's internalized misogyny. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the same people that were Team sand of all where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like in what world? And I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>insult Craig because I think it was a loving, good relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she loved him, like, so I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to insult her partner.

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<v Speaker 1>She made him much better, because what I mean is

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 3>When I used to watch that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even this season, it's like a montage of

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<v Speaker 2>him lying and like being rude to his friends and

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<v Speaker 2>like he wanted a trad wife, like he wanted her

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<v Speaker 2>and Charleston raising a child. And on an episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Southern Charms, she says to him, like, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>be allotted the freedom you did at thirty one, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty one. And not only that, it's like you're

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<v Speaker 2>cutting her at her fucking knees, like Pages once in

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<v Speaker 2>a lifetime talent. I'm sorry, like knowing that like is

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<v Speaker 2>usually that funny, charming ground and likes Taco Bell in

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<v Speaker 2>bed like I'm sorry, Like I just feel like she

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<v Speaker 2>could fuck Obama.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do, Like I am so.

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<v Speaker 2>Team Page And you know they pick up to the

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<v Speaker 2>cameras and people were pissed she's just a girl's girl too,

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<v Speaker 2>which I appreciate. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>Craig is a compulsive liar and an alcoholic, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think she made him better and like he's stop dreaming

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish him well in his sobriety journey. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think what pissed her off is like the first

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<v Speaker 2>moment he had on and any interviewer watch what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have her back and she's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't fucking cheat on you, and for you to

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<v Speaker 2>like imply anything like that is fucking bullshit.

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.720
<v Speaker 3>And then but people are like, you let him on.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants that family and he's like a little manchild

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<v Speaker 2>and he can find a trad wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, we it's like we have video of it. We

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<v Speaker 1>have video of her saying I'm not moving to Charleston.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like she was like maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's kept saying I don't want kids.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in tears, going I don't want kids and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want a baby. He just wants Paige obviously, But

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't get to rush her to give up

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<v Speaker 2>on her dreams. Like she's a multi she just said

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<v Speaker 2>Radio City musical like that's oh for her pod Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like eight thousand people, six thousand people, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a huge deal. And so for someone that supposedly loves

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<v Speaker 2>her to be like, come on, just move here, have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby, like I want to get married, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you do want her to be like the

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<v Speaker 2>person you have kids with and do this life, you

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.480
<v Speaker 2>could have moved to New York. But also you could

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<v Speaker 2>have just been patient. It's a control thing. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>but also it's not I.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it back. If you want that, go do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Go do that. Go find somebody who wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>Go honestly, And now's the time if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>t if you want to trod wives, now's the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They're out there like it's happening. Now, hurry before they

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<v Speaker 1>all really.

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<v Speaker 2>Just show up to your pillows store events like that's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't wait. So pages on watch what Happens

0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:37.640
<v Speaker 2>live and yeah, I'm just team Page And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the comments that are anti her are like internalized mischlogyny

0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.879
<v Speaker 2>and that like I'm leaving it at that. The same

0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.080
<v Speaker 2>people that I don't know Riana, why won't you just

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<v Speaker 2>move out then and he's dangerous and it's like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just wasn't sure if there was a I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure if there was a Like they also broke up,

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<v Speaker 1>no better.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they we broke up around Thanksgiving and Craig was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to do all this press.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just say we're still together?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want to deal with this for the

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 2>premiere and she said, okay, fine, But they've been broken

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 2>up since Thanksgiving, so even if she went on a

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<v Speaker 2>date with someone, say this to a game or not,

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<v Speaker 2>does not matter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you watch the first episode of Summerhouse, No not yet,

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<v Speaker 2>So like Lindsey, you know, announces for pregnancy and everyone's

0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.399
<v Speaker 2>happy and then the men are like, what's the baby's

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:29.880
<v Speaker 2>last name?

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<v Speaker 3>Counting the months being like how's Carl gonna feel? This is?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, who cares how Carl feels?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he dumped her after her wedding shower that he

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<v Speaker 2>dropped in on weeks before their wedding, and now she

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<v Speaker 2>can't get pregnant by another man because Carl might be upset, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, it's this, It's just these ingrained attitudes

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.119
<v Speaker 2>of people. That is stupid, especially now. They'll never pick you.

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:54.119
<v Speaker 2>They'll never pick you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am gonna I might. I am going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into Summerhouse if I can, though, because I really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what I've seen before, I've liked. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got me fully hooked when Lindsay and Carl got

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.439
<v Speaker 1>engaged and the other girl was acting so fucking crazy.

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I was hooked on that shit. But I really like

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Sierra on The Traders. I think she's fun and she

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.160
<v Speaker 1>brought that energy to the like clip for next week

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<v Speaker 1>or this week you probably also but like her calling

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<v Speaker 1>him out at the dinner table and people are like,

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that's Traders vibes. Yeah, but she learned how to school people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she was really good. And I feel like in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning she was so quiet, I wasn't noticing her, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she really came into her own.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say this, but Tom Sandoval is fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch on that show, Like he's you hate him

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<v Speaker 1>so much and he's such an idiot, like you do have.

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<v Speaker 3>To have kind of an idiot?

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<v Speaker 1>And how about how about literally I was just I

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<v Speaker 1>was texting you about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was texting other friends about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, does Sam talk like they've literally given

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<v Speaker 1>him no confessionals, Like is he okay? Or did they

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<v Speaker 1>just say, oh, this guy like doesn't actually speak and

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 1>now suddenly like episode like ten, Sam's like, I listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I know things like he's like, suddenly this wise man

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<v Speaker 1>that knows all this shit in the show. I'm kind

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of I'm kind of into randomly say I'm coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. Although I don't like him because of the

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Britney stuff. But anyway, let's move on. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>great episode for you guys today really quick. I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to give a shout out to somebody that messaged us.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't do this a lot, but this made me

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<v Speaker 1>laugh because she was asked, this is Renee messaged us

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<v Speaker 1>and said, could you give a shout out to my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Maggie and her daughter paper Clip. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a typo, but I also love the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you named your daughter paper Clip on on one

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<v Speaker 1>of your episodes her birthdays in March. I'm sorry it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit early, but I'm worried I'm gonna forget

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<v Speaker 1>about this and your friend Renee won't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate with you, and she said, she says that our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast has the thread that's been keeping you guys in

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<v Speaker 1>touch since you left New York City. So I love

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<v Speaker 1>that we can be that for you, and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being born. And happy birthday to you, and a

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<v Speaker 1>great day with paper Clip. I hope that I think

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<v Speaker 1>that this might be Penelope or something, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>love it to just be paper Clip.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you are listening, and I appreciate you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>get started. This is a wild episode from the early days.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what a treat we are doing the

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<v Speaker 1>second episode ever of SVU. This is season one episode

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<v Speaker 1>Dose Everybody, taking you back to September of ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Were at that time. I was in college.

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<v Speaker 1>But Baby Benson is in the light gray blazer and

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>slacks that she wears in the credit opener Thrilling, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's at this little like New York style grocery store

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<v Speaker 1>like Bodie, like you know, it's a little New York

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<v Speaker 1>grocery shop or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very Yeah, this reminds me of early Sex

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 2>in the City because they tried to paint Samantha as

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<v Speaker 2>like sad.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you didn't even get to it. I'll get

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<v Speaker 3>let you get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Oh I'm bringing up I'm bringing up the Sex

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<v Speaker 1>and the City comparisons. Oh yeah, they're Sex and the

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<v Speaker 1>City comparisons all over this.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, for sure, I'm getting I'm getting to them. But

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is, like, you know, it is a cutie

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Sex and the City moment that she's having

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<v Speaker 1>with this like grocery guy where he's like two tomatoes

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<v Speaker 1>for a dollar. She's like, I only need one, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're definitely we're telegraphing. She's a single gal

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<v Speaker 1>on the go. She doesn't need a bunch of tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>She just needs one.

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<v Speaker 2>She lives alone, and by the way she says it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just need one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, a cute little and then the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes pity and live goes tragic, like it's like such

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<v Speaker 1>a cute little it could have truly come out of

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Michael Patrick King like dialogue.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, of course, on her walk home to pop open

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle of red wine and forget about the horrors

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<v Speaker 1>of her job, Benson strolls by a full on crime scene.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman is on top of a car. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a jumper situation. Benson goes under the crime scene

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<v Speaker 1>tape announces herself as police. There is a funny moment

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<v Speaker 1>if you rewatch the episode. She flashes her badge at

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<v Speaker 1>a uniform officer who is not looking at her at all.

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<v Speaker 3>He has his back door.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just like, here's my badge and he's not looking

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<v Speaker 1>and then she asks is it a jumper, and they're like, well,

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>jumpers open the window first. This woman like smashed through

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<v Speaker 1>the glass, cleared the sidewalk, and landed basically in a

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>neglige on the car.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like in a little nightie. The owner of the

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<v Speaker 3>car is worked up.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I just parked here for twenty minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, buddy, I don't know what you want here.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a dead woman on your car, Like take

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<v Speaker 1>a cab, Like you're not getting car back right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just like yelling for the sake of yelling. He's like, great,

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>perfect dead to a perfect day. It's like, I wonder

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>what else happened to you that day. The woman looks

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hot even dead on top of the car, like

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>her body really stayed intact. It's just like she has

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>streaks of blood, but the usual it's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>usual thing that you hear, Like I remember I met

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>doctor Immani from Married to Medicine on a show that

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>we did together, and she was like, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>work in morgues and you cannot believe what happens to

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>the human body when somebody jumps off a building, Like

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 1>you cannot, but like you can never be prepared for

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>what you see. And this woman's like, you know, eight

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<v Speaker 1>stories she fell. She's like on a car. She still

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>looks pretty gorgeous. So it's just not what I would

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<v Speaker 1>expect anyway, liv asks the unis have you notified SVU?

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<v Speaker 1>And the guys scoff and they're like, oh, because she's

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<v Speaker 1>not wearing panties. And we have to remember this is

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the series where nobody respects SVU at all.

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>They constantly call them like the panty police or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and Live yells at them just cover her up. So

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<v Speaker 1>now up in the apartment, Stabler's on the scene into

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<v Speaker 1>this other like lead lead cop seeming guy filling him in.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no sign of forced entry. Two glasses of

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>half drunk wine, two sets of prints, must have been

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a lover's quarrel, he says, and Stabler goes, yeah, you

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>usually kiss and make up. And then this CSU guy

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>shows up and he's like, look, I found ultra ribs,

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like con condoms that are ultra ribs, and the other

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.639
<v Speaker 1>cop goes, well, maybe they did more than just kiss

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and lives like not feeling the jokey vibe with these men,

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>She's like, yeah, maybe he read her some Walt Whitman.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they made hat passionate passionate love, and then right

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<v Speaker 1>before he rolled over bell asleep, he heaved her out

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the window, excuse me, through the window, so the guy's like, oh, well,

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>what's this little outburst about. And Live is like rape,

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 1>it's about rape, and he's scoffing and saying like I

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>said no fourth entry. She's like, I didn't say it

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was a stranger, bro. He's like, well, she wasn't exactly

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>dressed in her refusal outfit.

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<v Speaker 3>Ugh.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Stabler's like, I didn't hear you say that. And the

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>guy's like, who the hell are you guys? Anyway, the

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>political correctness squad again this you know, this episode's twenty

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>five years old, same same assles out there. He flashes

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>his badge and intros them as SVU and the guy's like,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you want this case, you take it and lives like

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>looking out the broken window holding a beautiful photo of

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 1>this woman like from you know, her regular life, and

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>then they look down at her dead body on top

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of the car and it's honestly a wild shot, like

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's the credits. So now at the precinct, Stabler's

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>looking at the crime scene photos. This woman felt eight

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>stories and uh, you know, very sensitive Cassidy as usual goal.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.719
<v Speaker 3>She looked like she got shot out of a cannon.

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And Craigan's like, maybe the guy was like roid it out,

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>like maybe the void rage thing.

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Are you a six feet Under person? Where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I forget I started in the pandemic. I'm a good

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>way through the first season, but I didn't keep going.

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Well that because I was I unfortunately what you said

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>haunted me about the person, about jumping out the windows

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 2>and how they look and now the cannon, and I

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 2>was just thinking about that, unfortunately. And Six Feet Under

0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>did a good job of like showing the bot like

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 2>what app actually happens to the bodies because the beginning

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>of every episode there's like a crazy death. You know,

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>there's six seasons. Yeah and that, Yeah, that's the only show.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, they don't really show that, but

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>not show they do really show the mangle oldness because

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the least part of the job is to make them

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>look good for the funeral.

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you don't. We don't think about them. It's scary.

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are tough jobs. These are really fucking tough jobs.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Like this like Melinda Warner like what the fuck?

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I know? I know I could not be me, but

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>she she does it with Grayson style.

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Craigan thinks that maybe this guy was routed out like

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a guy that just throws a woman through a window out.

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, eight stories.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Munch is like, nah, the Yankees are out of town,

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and then he and Stable are exchanged some kind of

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>baseball jabs and lives like it could just be run

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of the mill male rage, like it doesn't have to

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>be athletes or or like, you know, steroid related. Jeffrey's like,

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>is there a boyfriend and Munch goes? Or a girlfriend?

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I bet you could toss one hundred pounds and Jeffries goes,

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll toss you, you skinny ass, and Munch goes.

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 3>There's the rage.

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>And these early episodes are so good because the pacing

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>is like a sitcom. I mean they are like bop

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>bop bop bo Like they are joke joke joke, like

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>getting on each other. Information is being passed like so quickly,

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I love the early season so much. So nobody

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>knew this woman in her building beside beyond a smile

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>in a way if like she worked at home, she

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>carried a laptop. Munch then immediately gets into a full

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.719
<v Speaker 1>spiral about laptops. He's like, laptops are a pyramid scheme.

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what He's like, whatever happened to Penns? And

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's just such a funny nineteen ninety nine

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>take that laptops are a pyramid scheme. She had an

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>appointment the victim with a doctor Daniels every Tuesday and Thursday.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>At by point fifteen, the victim was a writer. She

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>wrote an article called street Crazies, budget Cuts and the

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>mentally Ill, another article called designer Vaginas?

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Is this healthcare?

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think Sex and the City had premiered just

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a year earlier. I think this woman is supposed to

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>be a Carry Bradshaw type. Okay, she's a sexually active writer,

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>single living in Manhattan. I think that there's no that's

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>not no accident that this show had just aired a

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>year earlier.

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>And it is like taking the world by storm.

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they go through the actual rolodex, like she

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>has a physical rolodex, and everyone in there is a man,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and they're just trying to act like what a slut,

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, And it's like maybe she's a Samantha slash Carrie.

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but Carrie has sex with plenty of guys,

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I think that.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>They even Charlotte, I think they did the math and

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Charlotte like fucked seventy guys.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, Like.

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 2>They all have high body count hair, yeah, one hundred,

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>but not even like now I'm even saying more and

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>more of the sex in the city would like caught

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>me because I'm you know, it's always on, But I

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>caught a couple of season one episodes and in the beginning,

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>like Samantha ended up being really empowered and cool, but

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it didn't start that way.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 3>They painted her out as sad. Oh at the beginning, because.

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>There's a scene, yeah, because like this guy tries to

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>fuck Charlotte on a date and Charlotte doesn't want to

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and then they get into a cab and she's like,

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>where are you going and goes listen, I like what

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you're doing here, but I need to get laid. And

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>then Samantha goes home with that guy and it's painted

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>really sad, like she has nothing and he's like, you

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 2>need to be out in the morning, and she's like,

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm busy, and like it was just blues and not

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 2>as the Samantha we know. Yeah, and this is very

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>this and it keeps going where it's like the sad

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Kathy Comic Existence for Ye're Alone woman Vibe too totally

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>totally so they have you seen the reel? There's like

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>a reel It says the reason men don't believe women

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>are single by choice is because men are not.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Single by choice.

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, way a pretty good right, Yeah yeah that

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>is good because they're just like you sad women. And

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>these women are like, I don't know, we're kind of

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>doing okay, I.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Think, and we can have like like single women can

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>have sex as much as they want, Like I think

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>these guys are like, oh, we're just like not getting

0:32:55.880 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that either, like these men, yeah you know, yeah yeah yeah.

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>So they find doctor Mark Daniels. He's a clinical psychologist.

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Munch finds another article, how to build a Better Orgasm,

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>is something she wrote in Cosmo. I mean please, that's

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Kandice Bushnell written all over it. Munch says, somebody might

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>kill for this, but I feel like they're missing out

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>on Munch saying something like, if you build it, they

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>will come.

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 3>So that's just like a note I.

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Have like guys just like as an alt joke, pass

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like there's something that could be there with Munch because

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>he's also just been talking about baseball anyway, Hey, Craigan's like,

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>go check the neighborhood. And they're like, Cassidy, you're in

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>court tomorrow for the subway stroker case. Okay, because like

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>they used to do this a lot in the early seasons,

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like they would just have one of them go off

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>into court.

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 3>Kind of in the middle.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it wasn't as much of like an actual prosecution

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>at the end, and it was just like, you know,

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>let's go. It wasn't as divided into like first there's

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the crime part, then there's the court case part, like

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>so you know this is how they got the court

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>into it.

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, it is.

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>And this therapist is in other episodes of SVU. Yes

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>he is, yeah, Greek last name him and Angie Cassavadas

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I bet yes could be friends.

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah fourshore oh bah. So back at the

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>victim's apartment, they check her answering machine.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Her name is Gretchen. She has no messages.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming they already know her name because they've found

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of articles she wrote, but whatever, she has

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>no messages. Benson is outside talking to a neighbor. She's like,

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I heard rough housing, like people throwing things. Then I

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>heard the scream, the crunch, and then the car alarm,

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, did you see anyone leave her apartment?

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 3>And she's such a classic SBU witness.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>She goes, yeah, like I was supposed to stick my

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 1>head out and checks that he could see me, and

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>then she just walks away. And then a yuppie couple

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>approaches Live immediately to go and goes, how long will

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the apartment be a crime scene because we're next on

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the list for one bedroom. It's like so sick. They

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>like don't care what happened to the woman. They don't

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 1>care about anything. They just want her one bedroom. That

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>also feels like very comedy, like very sex and the city,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>like making jokes about living in New York, you know.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Stabler fucks with them and goes, well, I'm went the

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>real estate board and you guys are off the list now,

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, so now live an Elliott or

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>chatting she's like half the building say they can't even

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>tell their neighbors from the perp, and Sablers asking live like, well,

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>could you tell? And she's like, I work all the

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>time and he's like, you know, they say the burbs

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>are anonymous and like he's trying to like jab her,

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, cause I live in Manhattan and he's like.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>He lives in Queens and she's like saying, Queens is

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 3>the burbs. It's kind of a stretch.

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>But he argues, Wow, we got space, we got trees

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 1>at a lawn to mow, and lives like, oh fine.

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 3>That's yeah crazy. It's like, no one's mad at you

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 3>for living like that.

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Why the pressure to like, why the invalidation of someone

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 2>just kind of wanting something different. It's just so confusing,

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>but such a part of our culture still.

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And certain buildings are like people do all know

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>each other, and certain buildings are like people don't.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There's kind of like a vibe I

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 3>don't think in New York it's like you don't know

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 3>your neighbors.

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I knew some of mine, and she said, like I

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>at least knew who they looked like and what their

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>names were. If they died, I'd be like, oh, yeah,

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>this is her first and last name, you know. But

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>lives like, oh, I really want a picture of you

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>mowing the law And then she's like, admitted, Kathy does

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>all the housework. You're never home and he's like, yeah,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>she's the man of the house. And he says to

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>live you're lucky. You got nothing to worry about, no

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>lawn to mow, and she's like, yeah, I'm a regular monk.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>And then he goes monkket, which is spot on a

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>joke my dad would make. Oh my god, the monkket

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>joke like gave me a full lurch. And they have

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>this weird moment where he's like staring at her and

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>she's like what and he's like nothing. And I don't

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>really know what's going on there, but I also think

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>this is like it's just this is wildly like twenty

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, where it's like, oh, your life is

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.479
<v Speaker 1>so easy because you live alone and you don't have kids,

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's like there's plenty of things to fucking worry

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about in the world when you're a single person.

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, well, not only.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>That, it's just like, you know, it's it's seeing a

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>show figure itself out. It's episode two. You know, it's

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.919
<v Speaker 2>this new thing. They're coming out from Law and Order.

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 2>So it's like the tone that's built, you know, there's

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 2>just this journey and.

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't that's not a thing anymore.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 2>And this is the culture like season one of Seinfelder

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 2>The Simpson's roomn that's like, who knows if it would

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>have gotten a second season or been able to grow

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>into something like it's really just changed so much.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if it's not making the money, the tech guys

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want it, bottom line baby. So he cuts his

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Stabler at his house and he's pulling shit out of

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the garbage disposal as Elizabeth plays Old MacDonald pretty badly

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>on the piano, and yes it is an Elizabeth sighting

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the forgotten Stabler. We barely ever see her again. Maureen is,

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>she's one of the twins. She's twins with Dicky. Maureen

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>is gabbing on a cordless phone and Stabler's like annoyed

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that they broke the disposal, Why putting too much shit

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>down there? Then he gets it working. He's so proud

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>until Dicky walks in and goes.

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Have you guys seen my turtle?

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I left it in the sink, and then him and

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Kathy share a look over a turtle murder that he

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>just committed. Like again, it just feels like sitcom Like

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>this just feels like sitcom like moments.

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 3>They're so it's funny to me.

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Now in court Law and Order regular Ada Abby Carmichael

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>played by Angie Harmon, who I've always thought was so beautiful,

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>but then I did here she's a Republican, so I

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know she's questioning Cassidy.

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 3>Where we've got Cassidy's subway stroker case.

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now this is a case of a professor at

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Manhattan University assaulting a sleeping woman on the train. Cassidy

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>is a cutie, but he's also such a dope. He like,

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>he knows he can't say dick or junken court, so

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he quickly is like a genital region and then he

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>has to stop himself from saying, oh, he just did it,

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:34.280
<v Speaker 1>until he can't. He can't say finished, his intended result

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, Like he won't say it came, you know.

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.240
<v Speaker 3>He's like, he's like a child.

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for the defense to question him,

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, so you're an expert at sex crimes,

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.399
<v Speaker 1>which seems like a dig because Cassidy just said he'd

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>only been at SVU for eight months. And he's like, so,

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>what's the psycho sexual name for fondling a stranger? And

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Cassidy says fromage, and of course that is the French

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>word for cheese. He's trying to say freutage. And then

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the lawyer reveals that the woman on the train was

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>not sleeping, she was in fact dead, So what is

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that called? And Cassidy has an outburst and he goes,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it's called, but I call it disgusting.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>And the defense guy's trying to make it look like, well,

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>there is no assault because the victim was dead, and

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>he's making Cassidy look like a clown in the process. Okay,

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>so that's like a little side from the rest of

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the episode.

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:19.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>In Cragan's office, Benson and Stabler walk in. Stabler says,

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you look about as happy as a postal worker at Christmas. Okay, No,

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>this woman's got no threats from exes, no messages. They go,

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>this woman makes Jade Salinger look like a shriner, and

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Craigan says, not one person in her life, even though

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>she's dead yet and if the guy had killed her

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 1>in her home, she might not have been found for

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:45.479
<v Speaker 1>weeks or months, And.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of fucked up again to actle.

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have friends, she doesn't have anyone that's checking

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>on her, like, I'm sure she has a friend. Benson's like, God,

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine living like that? And then Stabler gives

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 1>her a weird look again and she's like what. So

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like basically Stabler keeps like p acting this woman's

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle on Benson, like, Oh, it's so sad. You guys

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>are just single and don't have anyone, and like, you know,

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you could just get murdered and no one would even

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>fucking notice, and it's just crazy.

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 3>So then anyway, they're like, let's go talk to the shrink.

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>So now, Doctor Mark Daniels as Lisa mentioned, is played

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 1>by Dennis Boots Karis Okay, who is also in the

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>SBU episode Shadow, which is the Sarah Paulson episode.

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I think he's the.

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Guy that she calls, like the family lawyer that she's

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>calling to like fix everything up. He's also in Producer's

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>back End, which we have also done, which is that

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay Lohan esque episode with Stevie Lynn Jones where like,

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's trying to make Amorrow look like he

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.439
<v Speaker 1>did something bad and this guy actually has one hundred

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and twenty five credits.

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Dennis Putzikaris.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>So he's been a working man since the eighties, since

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty, so you can check him out. He's been

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in a lot, you know him. He's one of those

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>guys you're like, how do I.

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Know that face? And he thinks that.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Benson and Stabler are a couple attempting a walk in

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, no, sir, your next patient is in

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>fact dead, so you've got some time and they need

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>his help with next to of kin and he's like,

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that, and Benson's like, yeah, doctor patient privileged.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah, we can get a court order.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Then he caves. He opens the file. He's like, Gretchen's

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>parents are dead. She has a sister named Ellen who

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>lives in Denver. She was very private, he says afterwards,

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 1>lives like did you notice he didn't even ask how

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>she died? And Stabler agrees like, yo, yeah, that guy's

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>stonewalling us. So now they're talking to the emmy, who

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>is doctor Elizabeth Rodgers played by Leslie Hendrix. We've talked

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>about her before. She was the Melinda of season one.

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>She did nine episodes of SVU and then unfortunately Melinda

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>moved in and we never saw her again. But she's

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>quite good. She doesn't even say hi. She just starts

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>listing off injuries from the fall and no sign of

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a struggle. She says, no sign of a struggle from

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>before the fall. She's like, no contusions, no internal abrasions,

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and Lives like, yeah, but a gun to the side

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>of the head wouldn't leave an abrasion. And the Emmy

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 1>is like, girl, chill, I am on your side. So

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>back at the office now. Lives put her hair in

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a ponytail because she's frustrated and she needs to get

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>down to work and she can't have her beautiful hair

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>falling in her face. She's left messages for everyone that

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>the shrink gave them, including the sister, left voicemails for everyone.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>They're hearing back from nobody. They tell Craigan that the

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.439
<v Speaker 1>shrink was uncooperative, and Craigan's like, well, get a court

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>order to stop his pussy footing. And I don't know

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>if you had a feeling on the word pussy footing.

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>That's so yeah, And then Stabler gets a call right

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>there and then on Cragan's office phone. I don't really

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>know how this place works with the phone, where Craigan

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is like, it's for you, Elliott, and it's the lead.

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And then the print on the wineglasses matches a guy

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>with a record in Albany, not a prisoner. A shrink

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>done done, Doctor Mark Daniels, her shrink that they just

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.959
<v Speaker 1>talked to. The wineglass prints are his. So Craigan goes,

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>guess the pussy footing's over. I would love them to

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>name an episode pussyfooting. So now we're talking to the

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>shrink and he's got his brother with him, and his

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>brother is his lawyer, and he's like, legally his hands

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>are tied. He can't help you. And then they're like, well,

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>what about the Prince. You were in the room of

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a murder, a victim, like right before she was murdered,

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 1>so we actually can't talk to Youdaniels is about to

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>explain it why he was in his client's apartment when

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>his lawyer is like, he was there at lunchtime upon

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>request to attend to a crisis and live goes or

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>an erection, and I do like that, good one. Daniels

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>is insulted, and Stabler's like, I thought the lack of

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a boner was insulting.

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 3>So there they're Jabin, their Jim in their Jabin. There's

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of jokes.

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>His brother says he was back at the office seeing

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>patients by two thirty, and at eight o'clock, which was

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the time of the fall, he was at a lady

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.879
<v Speaker 1>therapist's apartment having dinner. Got there at six thirty, left

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>at mine, cut to the walk and talk with the therapist.

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 1>She confirms he was there. They ask if she knows

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>any woman he's getting busy with. She says, our relationship

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>is professional. I have no interest in his personal life,

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, that's wild. I am interested in everyone's

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>personal life. Like anything you want to tell me, I

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>want to hear it, like I would never be like,

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>that's actually not appropriate. I shouldn't be hearing this about you. Outside.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>They can't tell if this woman's covering for him or not.

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Stabler gets another call. It's a contact at the New

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 1>York Ledger, where she wrote and let me just say

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Carrie Bradshaw wrote for The New York Star, which was

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>a made up version of The New York Observer, which

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Candice Bushnell wrote for. So the New York Ledger. Here

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>we go at the Ledger Elliott introduces live to his

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>connect there, and his name is Michael Gaston, the actor,

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and you would recognize him. He's in tons of stuff.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>He's been in four svus, He's in The Man in

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the High Castle. The Leftovers also has one hundred and

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty five credits, just like Dennis like, wow, this is

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 1>like there's so many people I'm gonna name that have

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>a ton of credits and it's just like very classic

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>second episode of Best View. They're just like we got

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to get in all the good character people that work

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.399
<v Speaker 1>in New York and stuff. So he's like, oh, this

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>is your new partner. She's better looking than Alphons and

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's Stabler's last partner. And I never remembered

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>his name being Alphonse. Now, yeah, good trivia.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>The guy calls him a fatso and asked if he

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>died of a heart attack, and Stabler's like, no, he

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 1>just retired and moved to Florida, and the guy goes, same,

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>diff so love this. They show him the photo of

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>this woman and he's like, I don't recognize her, but

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>then they show her the crime scene photo and he goes, oh,

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.720
<v Speaker 1>you mean this is the woman that got like defenestrated

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.439
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I saw this in the competition. We don't

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>really go for death scenes. So he's acting like, we're

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>not the New York Post. We're like, you know, the better,

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Like we don't go for that shit. I don't know

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>what the equivalent would be, is the New York Daily

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:17.439
<v Speaker 1>News like a little bit better?

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>They say her name is Gretchen Quinn and he's like, oh, yeah, no,

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I talked to her a couple.

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Times on the phone. She'd call me to tell me

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 3>she liked my columns.

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not an editor, so I didn't hire her,

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Like she's just another byline to me. And then he's

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at the picture of her just being like this

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>girl is and then Benson goes, what a stone cold

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>fox a babe? And he goes, no, you're a stone

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>cold fox and a babe, and Benson just like Benson

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just goes like she just like lash. She doesn't even

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like roll her eyes. She's just like yeah, I know.

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And then he goes, no, this is some deep, deep

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>hole you'd have to fall into, like what a waste,

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>like just you know, he's sort of.

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Sad about the woman's death.

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.359
<v Speaker 1>So now Benson and Stable are getting hot dogs from

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a street vendor, as every New Yorker does for lunch.

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>How many hot dogs have you had from a street

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 1>vendor since you moved back in February. Well, you know,

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I famously don't like New York hot dogs. That's vastly

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like a fat. I've had had them at baseball games.

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I've had them at events, I've had them in the

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>movie theater. I think already I have found hot dogs,

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's mostly shake Shack because they have Vienna beef.

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And then there's a five Guys nearby I haven't been yet,

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>but and then Westville if you can get a hot

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 1>dog for four dollars or two hot dog meal.

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 3>So but not on the street.

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>But not the streets like when I lived in New

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>York for eleven years, I maybe had one street hot

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.839
<v Speaker 1>dog ever, when like somebody was visiting and I was like, sure,

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>let's do this for you. But I don't think I

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>ever did that. But you know people are eating them.

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>They they weren't off the street.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 2>It is like a chicken rice like I would eat,

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 2>like halal, like I would eat at a hullal truck

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 2>over any other street.

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.839
<v Speaker 1>And I would get those nuts all the time. Those

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>candied nuts I would get all the time in pat

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Central Park. I love those. Oh, I think those are

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 1>so good, those little roasted nuts that are sugary. Oh

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>love them. So Benson's on the phone finding out that

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Gretchen had a lot of pricey dinners on her credit

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>card in the last year, and the last one was

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>for three hundred and seventy two dollars at Iel Postovecchio

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:13.839
<v Speaker 1>and three hundred seventy two dollars in nineteen ninety nine.

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's pricey. That's a pricey fucking, you know dinner.

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a pricey fucking dinner now, but like now I

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's like five hundred dollars. So now they're at

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Eel Postovecchio and the host is like, I don't know.

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So many beautiful people come in the air and then

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.319
<v Speaker 1>they flash their badges and he's like immediately spills. He's like, oh, yes,

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>she was with one of the anchors, not local, either national.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And then a waitress you know, stumbles up and goes, oh, yeah,

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>like she was with Dallas Warner. I got a serious

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 1>tip and she's there like oh from him, and she goes, no,

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>not from him, from her.

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess she was his boss. I love that.

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So there's a little feminism happening in this episode. At

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the news station Dallas, Warner is in a walk and

0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>talk with Benson and Stabler and seemingly avoiding all the

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 1>questions on purpose. And he is played by another working guy,

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael Nori. He's been in a ton of episodes of

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>All My Children, Damages, you know, my original binge watch obsession,

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the OC.

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 3>He's got one hundred and thirty eight credits.

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>No, no, you know this guy from something okay, And

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 1>they're like, quit bullshitting, and he's like, I haven't seen

0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Greshion in a month. And then he's like, I was

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>with my wife last night, and the restaurant can confirm,

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and he hopes they can confirm his alibi without having

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to contact the wife, like you know, basically like please

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>be discreet. So afterwards they go watch him on air

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>with his newscast and they call him a sociopath and

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, you know, with a cheating narcissist

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 1>like this, his alibi is gonna check out. So now

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>they're at the Black Pearl and they are talking to

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a very sassy waiter. And this man's career did not

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 1>take off. He stopped acting. He only has like four

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>credits and I'm upset because I love him here and

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just like a thirty second little speech and it's

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 1>so funny and so like from the second episode, they

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 1>were setting the stage for what you're supposed to do

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>when you have a couple of lines on this show,

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like this is what you're supposed to do. This guy goes, oh, yeah.

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>She was having drinks with that gorgeous anchorman what's his name,

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Warner Warren whatever? Women who knows I should have such problems.

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>She was stroking his arms crying. He was sitting up

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>straight looking around.

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 3>I see this scene one hundred times a week, baby,

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 3>and the body language it was personal, as in the

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 3>man was already gonde like.

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>It's so good, it's classic. He's amazing. Okay, so now

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>we have to see someone live your dreams, you know. Yeah,

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.359
<v Speaker 1>So if anybody knows who this guy is, I'm sorry

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you're quote acting because this is amazing.

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 3>You do a great job on this episode.

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Back to talking to Dallas, he says he was with

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 1>her Monday night when he found out she was dead.

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>He was shocked, and they're like, yeah, you like lied

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to us, and he was like, well, I was just shocked.

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. And then he was like I was

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 3>good for Gretchen.

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Before me, she'd been with a bunch of lying psychos,

0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:59.879
<v Speaker 1>says a married man who is having an affair with her.

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>He said, the last time he saw her, she called crying.

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>They met for drinks. She told him she'd be she'd

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 1>been banging her psychiatrists. It'd been going on for a

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. Benson makes a snide comment, did you

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 1>used the word banging or did he use the word bang?

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I did, he didn't use it. Okay, that's my edit.

0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 1>That's my edit.

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Because it does say a lot about a person and

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>we needed to know.

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, sorry.

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>In my quest to make things quicker, I did just

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.760
<v Speaker 1>say banging instead of, you know, having an affair or whatever,

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>having a sexual relationship. Like she thought it was hot

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>that he knew all of her little like dark secrets

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and that he was still into her.

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 3>So that's why, you know, which is probably what happens.

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>When a lot of people have affairs with psychiatrist with

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 1>her own psychiatrists and Benson, which should never happen and

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is truly such a horrible act of misconduct.

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Benson makes a snide comment and this guy Warren goes, well,

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be snotty, I'll call my lawyer

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and stop cooperating. And then she goes, yeah, and I'll

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>call your lawyer and ask him if you killed Gretchen

0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, lol, he won't tell you, So I

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's like not a that's not a tit

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>for tat Benson. But he's like, why would I kill her?

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 1>And lives like to keep her from blabbing to your wife,

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and Stable has to pull Benson out of the room

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and he tells her why don't you go get an

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>obb started, which I don't know what that is, and outside,

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Stabler's like, you want me to hit him for you?

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>And then Sin's like, no, I'm the only reason we're

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>not making any progress with this guy, Like he's a

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 1>pompous jerk. He's not going to deal with a woman

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 1>like you go in there, you deal with him, and

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like we're all good. Like so they're not even right

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 1>from the bat. It's like this is episode two. They're

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>already have such a big trust in each other that

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>he's like, it's just not working with you in there,

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I know, like she's not even.

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Like you're pulling me out, you know, like it's I

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 3>just I like that. They're already establishing this that episode too.

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:45.799
<v Speaker 1>So Stabler meets Dallas on the roof now and back

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.359
<v Speaker 1>to all the info about the shrink. Gretchen said, yes,

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>at first it was exhilarating. He know all my secrets

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>but still wanted to, you know, be with me and

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>attract it to me. Dallas told her to sue him,

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler's like, well, we need you to testify, and

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>he goes, no, this was off the record, and Stabler's like,

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 1>this isn't sixty minutes, Like you can't just like tell

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>cops things off the record. And he's like, well, it's

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.720
<v Speaker 1>your word against mine, and mine is trusted around the world.

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 1>And then Stabler lightly, lightly threatens to tell his wife

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>about the affair, So we leave it at that. Back

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>at the house, they're downloading Daddy Kragan. Warner's like, they, oh, sorry,

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy's name is Warner, but he's not Warner.

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Dallas.

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Warner has a solid alibi and he wouldn't offer up

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>a dinner in a public space if he was lying,

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Like he wouldn't be like, oh, go ask all these people.

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, they still don't have anyone to release Gretchen's

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 1>body to, and they haven't had a chance to sift

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>through all her stuff. And Craigan's like, you know what

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a great time would be that to do that, and

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they have all just started to sit down, and so no,

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>they all stand up because they're going to start.

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Doing it now.

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Munch and Cassidy are walking and talking and Munch is

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:49.920
<v Speaker 1>teaching him the Greek like necro is death phelia is

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.720
<v Speaker 1>necrophiliasphilia is to like, so it's like necrophilia.

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 3>It's cute.

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 1>He's like giving him a lesson because he didn't no

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>necrophilia on the stand.

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 3>So now they're going through all of Gretcham in their desk.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>City is just an embarrassment, I know, I know, Yeah,

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't so hot, are you kidding? I know? I

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 1>think they knew a guy like that was never gonna

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 1>last on the squad. So they're going through gretchen stuff

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, she has a file called penis

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>dot quotes there's something called Biology of the Amazons by

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Gretchen Quinn. Olivia starts reading a passage about a fish

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>more fear than the piranha, and Craigan just pipes in

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and goes, oh, yeah the cand ru and interrupts them,

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler goes what And they have to explain to

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Stabler that this is the fish that swims up your

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>dick and like has spikes, so it's like you can't

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>get it. And Craigan learned about it in Vietnam. They

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>told you not to hold your nose, hold your stones.

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And Stabler finds something. Look at this and overdue library

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 1>book from Patterson High School in East Bergen, New Jersey.

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like a twenty year overdue book. So they go

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to East Patterson. There is Seinfeld. Yes, they go to

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>eastburg in New Jersey. They find out Gretchen Quinn's real

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>name is Susan Sadarski and they're about to talk to

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the shrink and Live really wants to be the one

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>to pull the hair out for DNA. She's like, can

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I pull the hair out please? So now they're talking

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to Daniels and he's like, look, Gretchen had classic symptoms

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of childhood sexual abuse. She was overly promiscuous, seductive, always

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>asking me if I found her attractive. She told him

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that her father started abusing her after her thirteenth birthday.

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Lives like be specific and he's like intercourse. And once

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>she graduated high school, she ran away. She moved almost

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.919
<v Speaker 1>every year, and then she settled in New York. She

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:38.520
<v Speaker 1>saw him twice a week. It was must have been expensive,

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, and the guy goes, well, she had

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a trust fund, but she refused to touch it. He

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>says to them that sex for Gretchen was anonymous and joyless.

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>She'd pick any man on the block as long as

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>she picked him before he picked her. She had a

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>history of deranged lovers, and they're like cool arranged more often, Doraine,

0:54:57.680 --> 0:54:58.879
<v Speaker 1>you are deranged?

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got it. Get that into my psyche. Yeah,

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna write it down. Yeah, it could be like

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 3>the new Delulu is Deray Ray.

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 2>So when are we two hundred something episodes in two

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty Where are we We still don't have.

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 3>A name for our listeners.

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, like we'll different babies kind of, but we

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 1>can't say we can't put that on anything.

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I say murder girls. But obviously I know we're

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:25.240
<v Speaker 2>not all girls here.

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and the murder girls love a lot of different things,

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, but yeah we we girls When I

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:35.880
<v Speaker 1>say yeah, but like it's not a nickname, is it?

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 2>The Deray Rays like, I don't know what to do.

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 3>You guys can settle it.

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna either call you guys Delulus or deray Rays.

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 3>But no, not all of the deranged dame deranged.

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Well okay, so they're all like cool, cool, great info.

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>You just forgot the part where you're the most recent

0:55:57.520 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>deranged lover and.

0:55:58.480 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 3>His lawyer brother.

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>His lawyer brother is like, well that's unfair, and Stabler's like,

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 1>so is sleeping with a vulnerable patient and they threaten to.

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Call the board on him.

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And now Elliott they're at home and Elliott is, you know,

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 1>bring in his work home ranting to Kathy, He's like,

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>stranger danger. We teach these kids about stranger danger. How

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:17.359
<v Speaker 1>are we supposed to warn them about people that they're

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>supposed to trust? Priest Scout leaders therapist? How do you

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:24.319
<v Speaker 1>tell kids about this without them being paranoid? And Kathy's like, yeah, babe,

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 1>We've had this conversation before like, can I talk about

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>my stuff now? Maureen got to be in algebra, Kathleen

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>might not need a whole retainer, which is good, And

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say somebody A loyal listener, a

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>loyal de reiree, reached out recently saying that in the

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>episode Pure, which is the Sebastian Valentine episode with Martin Short,

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:46.959
<v Speaker 1>I think there is a part of the episode where

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>they discover that he's got files on all of the cops,

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like he he that's how he knows it about them,

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:54.719
<v Speaker 1>And in the file this listener points it out Stabler

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:57.959
<v Speaker 1>makes sixty K a year and Benson makes fifty five

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.120
<v Speaker 1>K a year, And I'm like, okay, I don't know

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>what that episode is from season like seven or something,

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>so that's like early two thousands. That's not a lot

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to make. But I'm like, first of all, the pay

0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 1>gap is rude.

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:08.839
<v Speaker 3>That is rude.

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Why are they making different amounts? Probably because he's been

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 1>a cop longer. I'm sure there's reasons, but I immediately was like,

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>how is that man supporting a family of six on

0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty k in New York City?

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Like Kathleen is not getting a retainer?

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me, Like, but maybe they're not including overtime.

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, like Kathy must come from money. I bet

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Kathy's parents game money for the down payment. Yeah, they're

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 2>going to Scarantino's. They're getting Little Manicotti Night down at

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Scared Like they're going out. They're doing things like the

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 2>kids are taking piano lessons, they have recitals.

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Like I just am like sixty k.

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 1>You cannot live in New York City, Like that's like crazy,

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 1>even back with a family of No, not with a

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>family of I mean when I was leaving New York,

0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>like even ten years ago, it was like you had

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to make eighty k as a single person to be

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>comfortable is what they were saying, to be comfortable in

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 1>New York City.

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 3>And that was ten years ago. This is even longer ago.

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think this is with a family

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 3>of six people. I can't. I can't.

0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he lives in an old family house. He doesn't

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>pay any rent or something, but that still like seems crazy.

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Stabler now gets to the good stuff. He takes his

0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>shirt off. Okay, he's looking good. He's got the gray

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 1>tidy white he's on. But he can't stop talking about

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the case, he starts bringing up how Gretchen's father was

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 1>abusing her. Kathy's trying to get horny and change the subject,

0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>so she brings up Elizabeth. She's like, and I swear,

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>this is the most we ever hear about Elizabeth. It's like,

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth made you an ashtray at school. And he's like,

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't smoke. And it's like, yeah, duh, she's a child.

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And she's like and then she's like, it doesn't matter.

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Dicky flushed it down the toilet anyway. Like I'm telling you,

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this is sitcom. This is like all sitcom. It's hilarious.

0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I just can't drop it. I can't

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>believe a father would do that to his daughter. Like

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>he's obviously it's episode two. They're trying to set up

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>how impacted by his job Stabler is, especially because he

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>has his own children that are you know, the ages

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of the kids that he has to

0:58:56.480 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 1>deal with their cases. So now at the Precinct tells

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 1>live Doun Dunn, the big sister from Denver, has finally surfaced.

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 1>She's in New York City in a two bedroom suite

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 1>in Midtown, and Munch suggests that the sister is probably

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a victim as well. So now Cassidy, fresh off of

0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 1>looking like a dumbass in court, is trying to impress

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the squad with his knowledge, and he goes, did you

0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>know necrophilia isn't just sex with dead people? I got

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>it off the net. He's like, supposedly some famous Hollywood

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:28.919
<v Speaker 1>actor hires sex workers to sit in an ice bath

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>until they're blue before he has sex with them. And

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Munch is like, come on, next, quiz compulsive onanism and

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that is compulsive masturbation. But they move, Munch gets him like,

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the student away and Craigan's like, tell them

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that the sister is in the precinct. Okay, so Ellen

0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Travis is there and she is played by Layla Robbins.

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And I've just seen her in a lot of shit.

0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought more s fus, but this is her only SVU.

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But she was also in Homeland. Well I love her.

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a face.

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm on her IMDb right now because I was, yeah, oh,

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it up for this, And then I

1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:03.320
<v Speaker 2>just saw Sex and the City the Cold War and

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:07.440
<v Speaker 2>she was one of the snobbi friends of the Russian Yeah,

1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, do you write for the Times?

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And then she had to be like, I'm a star,

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a slash.

1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 3>No.

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I love this Simon's face. I'm obsessed with her. Yeah,

1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 1>she's great. She's got like yeah, she does have like

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:23.560
<v Speaker 1>from Money face kind of oh yeahs. Also in a

1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:25.560
<v Speaker 1>movie from nineteen ninety that I was obsessed with with

1:00:25.600 --> 1:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>one on a Rider called Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael, where

1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:28.600
<v Speaker 1>she plays her mom.

1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:31.240
<v Speaker 2>You got to remember that for Cinematrix. That's a good one.

1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:33.720
<v Speaker 1>What is it called, Yeah, welcome Home Roxy Carmichael went

1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.480
<v Speaker 1>on a Rider. It's really good. I mean it's I

1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:38.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's really good. I watched it all

1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the time when I was a kid, and it was weird.

1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I just don't retain information.

1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I just read this whole article about not Christopher walk

1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:48.120
<v Speaker 2>and the other weird one Willem Dafoe, So like, I

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 2>read this whole article about him, and then it was

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<v Speaker 2>all of his movies and he talked about all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he's in the Cinematrix and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>do only remember two of them, and it's like how

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<v Speaker 2>do I even say, Like, I don't understand why my brain, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, and it's probably the wead I'm smoking twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my cina matrix is hard for me. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I cannot recall these movies like that way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not that's not that's not how my brain goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right now, I right now my cinematrix. And this

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<v Speaker 2>will be a time capsule for when we recorded. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still looking for an Atte Benning movie from two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>to two thousand and nine and Anna Paquin film with

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<v Speaker 2>more than three words in the title. So that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at right now for the day we'll see, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>they'll come to me.

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<v Speaker 1>This woman, Layla Robins. She's also on The Boys, which

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<v Speaker 1>people love. She has ninety one credits. So again, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not on this show today really, unless you're that sassy waiter,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you've got like upwards of seventy five credits.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>They give her the keys to the apartment in case

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<v Speaker 1>she wants any family items, but she says, I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>there will be any. We haven't spoken in twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and she tells them two months ago she called me

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<v Speaker 1>out of the blue, saying she wanted a relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like and and she's like, well, it was superficial

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<v Speaker 1>and then it stopped. She says her sister was a

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<v Speaker 1>drama queen, and Stabler mentions the funeral and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what funeral. I'm in New York City to sign the papers,

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<v Speaker 1>go to Sacks and take the next plane home.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she walks out. It is cold.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cold, like your sister got thrown through a window

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<v Speaker 1>eight stories lives, like for sure this woman was molested,

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<v Speaker 1>and she also knows for sure. They're also establishing something

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<v Speaker 1>up top that is very important to the history and

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<v Speaker 1>legacy of the show, which is that Benson Clock's high fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>She knows where shit is from, she know how much

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<v Speaker 3>stuff is worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, she sees Ellen's outfit and goes and outfit that pricey.

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<v Speaker 1>Gretchen's never touched her trust fund, but it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen is swimming in her trust fund. And then Stabler

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<v Speaker 1>goes who's paying so back at the Ledger with the

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<v Speaker 1>buddy whose name is Buddy, I guess the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>works at the Ledger. He takes them to some guy

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<v Speaker 1>who they have and he's got access to some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of financial computer system that shows them everybody's money business,

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<v Speaker 1>and like where everybody? I guess it's all public. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that says public knowledge, but where do you

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<v Speaker 1>get it? You know, Like I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>all just on the internet, but certainly not in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine. So they're like, the Sadarski Trust check it.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they're filling in Kragan. The sisters had separate

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<v Speaker 1>us set up and Gretchen's just sat there and grew.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at three and a half million and still climbing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the trust is a living trust managed by their father,

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<v Speaker 1>who Done Done is not dead but very much alive

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<v Speaker 1>and living in New Jersey. And Craigan wants to know

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<v Speaker 1>the truth about these people. So now they're at Laurel

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic Shoes in East Bergen, New Jersey, and he's walking

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<v Speaker 1>them through the shoe factory explaining a couple of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they tell him, well, your daughter's dead, and

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<v Speaker 1>at first he is so upset.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, does my wife know?

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<v Speaker 1>And then they explain, oh, yeah, she was tossed out

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<v Speaker 1>of a window in Manhattan, and he's like, that's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>My family is at the shore on Vaka waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they confirmed to him, no, it's your daughter, Susan,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, he sighs, and he goes, oh, Susie was

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<v Speaker 1>lost to me a long time ago. Such a sad child,

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<v Speaker 1>such a sad ending. Well then he's literally like, anything

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<v Speaker 1>else you guys need because I got to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to my shoe business here. And so they walk out

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<v Speaker 1>of the factory and Live is activated. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to punch that guy face. Lee like she's so mad,

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<v Speaker 1>and Stabler is like, well, the statue of the limitations

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<v Speaker 1>is up. Even if we do get the sister to

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<v Speaker 1>talk and lives like not, if we use Megan's law,

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<v Speaker 1>we can pump the sister's memory that starts the clock again.

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<v Speaker 1>Stabler's like, I don't know, recovered memory is tricky. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really have anything to do with our case. And

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<v Speaker 1>Benson is worried about the little daughter who is down

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<v Speaker 1>at the shore because I guess they don't really put

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<v Speaker 1>this out there explicitly, but we figure out later he

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<v Speaker 1>has a ten year old daughter who with a new wife,

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<v Speaker 1>who's down at the Jersey shore waiting for her dad,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a to them known sex offender against children,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Benson's like, she's the one I'm worried about right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So Live stops by Gretchen's building and she looks up

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<v Speaker 1>and she sees the yuppie couple from earlier setting up,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're at the broken window where the woman's body

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<v Speaker 1>was tossed, and they're just like measuring for drapes, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild. So now back at the squad, Craigan pulls

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<v Speaker 1>out a bottle of boothe so that Live can have

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<v Speaker 1>a drink. It's nighttime, everyone's gone home, everyone's off doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, well, I thought you don't drink, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, that doesn't mean you can't, and she goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when we leave here, we just disappear into the night,

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<v Speaker 1>and Craigan tells her, yeah, back in homicide, we used

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<v Speaker 1>to go out every night, get wasted, fool around. We'd

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<v Speaker 1>feel like shit the next day, and Lives like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is better, and he's like yeah much, And then

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, so why are you all alone, daddy Craigan,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tells the story about how his wife was

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<v Speaker 1>a flight attendant on an Orlando turnaround and he was

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<v Speaker 1>home scrubbing algae off the pool they never used, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the pool that AIB got suspicious about, because what's

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<v Speaker 1>a cop.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing with an ing ground pool?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the phone rang and it was the phone

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<v Speaker 1>call that his wife had always dreaded. So he says,

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<v Speaker 1>so Marge is scattered in bits over some swamp and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm home in benson Hurst, trying to make sense of

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<v Speaker 1>the test pattern on our giant TV, wanting so bad

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<v Speaker 1>to drink again, hoping for surrender, for oblivion. And it's like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a sad monologue. And then Benson's like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Susan slash Gretchen. She slept with every

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<v Speaker 1>guy on the block to try to get to that oblivion.

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<v Speaker 1>And Craigan's like, you get inside her head and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to the perp. So now the whole gang

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<v Speaker 1>is in the pen and they're spitballing ideas. They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas has an alibi, the shrink has no motive. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the dad, but he hasn't seen her in twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>The shrink is also not stupid enough to like have

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<v Speaker 1>a glass of wine leave his print, throw her out

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<v Speaker 1>a window and then like run. I don't know that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he seems smarter than that. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the dad, but he hasn't seen her in twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Craigan is pissed. He's like, why isn't the shrink who

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<v Speaker 1>is at the crime scene and sleeping with the victim

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<v Speaker 1>not in interrogation getting the close talking stable action as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak. Benson's like, I'm telling you it wasn't him,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the father. She cashed one trust fund, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she cashed one trust fund check he found her, caught

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<v Speaker 1>her banging the shrink or the anchorman. He's possessive and jealous, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>His focus would be on the new daughter, though, the

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<v Speaker 1>young one, like he wouldn't be worried about his like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, old thirty two year old daughter at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like out of his you know, realm of attraction.

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<v Speaker 1>So Live tracks down Ellen and it is the fastest

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<v Speaker 1>walk and talk I've ever seen. Like she does not

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to Olivia, and she is flying down

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<v Speaker 1>the New York streets and Olivia is like, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for being hard on you the other day, and the

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<v Speaker 1>woman's like, I bet you're wondering why I didn't stay

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<v Speaker 1>and protect my sister, Olivia is like, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a half sister. She's ten years old.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's going to happen to her? And Ellen

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<v Speaker 1>is like, well, that was Susan's drama. It's not my drama,

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<v Speaker 1>and Live says, but you can help, like please, like please,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she's begging her just stay one more day. So

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<v Speaker 1>now they have the dad in interrogation okay, and Ellen's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at him through the glass and is like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine being a child in that house? Then she

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<v Speaker 1>strolls into the interrogation room and starts berating her dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, you cowardly, disgusting, sick bastard. He's like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to call her sweetie pie, and she's like, shut the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck up. And Ellen's like, you killed Susie and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I told the cops I wasn't even near the city.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, you didn't kill her the other night,

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<v Speaker 1>and he can tell that she's about to blab about

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<v Speaker 1>all the molestation and he goes, you're making a costly

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<v Speaker 1>mistake and she's like, lol, are you threatening me with

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<v Speaker 1>the trust fund? Stick it up your ass, daddy, And

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<v Speaker 1>Susie called it blood money. From when she bled, when

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<v Speaker 1>you held her down when she was little, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like horrible. He's like, it's ancient history. Just let it rest.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like the audacity, the audacity to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>just stop talking about it. It was so long ago, Like uugh,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even twenty years ago. By the way, she's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two, it's like nineteen years ago. Ellen's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>got news for you. It's not ancient history. And that

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<v Speaker 1>lady detective told me if I remember things now, I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell my story to a grand jury in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, now wait a second, honey, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a new family. And Ellen's like, yeah, duh, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why this is happening. Like no one wants you

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<v Speaker 1>to molest your new daughter. You creep. And it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like this happened just yesterday. That's how it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>every day of my life. And then this is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge twist. She has a letter that Susan mailed her

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<v Speaker 1>in Denver that her husband, who you'll never meet, she

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<v Speaker 1>says to her father, faxed over and it says Gretchen

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn born Susan Saedarski, a frequent contributor to The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Ledger committed suicide Monday night. She hopes her death

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<v Speaker 1>will point an accusing finger at the men responsible. And

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<v Speaker 1>she keeps reading more. And it's her obituary, she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>it herself. She talks about the men she left behind,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Daniels, her rapist father. She shoves the obituary. Ellen

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<v Speaker 1>shoves the obituary in the dad's face, grabs his collar

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<v Speaker 1>and is shaking him as she continues to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how he ruined her life. She took her life, she

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<v Speaker 1>took Susie's life. She was only thirty two. And she

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<v Speaker 1>sits there just shaking her dad, who won't even look

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<v Speaker 1>at her while she's sobbing. And on the other end,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the fish bowl glass, Live

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<v Speaker 1>is like staring at them.

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<v Speaker 3>She looks up, she closes her eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>She's deeply affected by this, and she herself is only

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one at the time Live, Like, if I do

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<v Speaker 1>the math correctly, in the time of year, she's like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, So she's the same age as this woman

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<v Speaker 1>who died, and they're clearly trying to draw parallels with

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<v Speaker 1>her the whole episode. So she's affected by this that

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<v Speaker 1>this woman like had such a traumatic upbringing live has

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<v Speaker 1>her own trauma which maybe we don't know about yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that everybody's trauma is what leads to

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<v Speaker 1>the decisions that they make in their life. Is like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge theme of this series overall, and they're setting

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<v Speaker 1>it up big and obviously they did in the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>the first woman that cop cuts off someone's dick who

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted her in Sarajevo. You know, we'll do that episode

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<v Speaker 1>one day, but listen, well, that's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of research. You got to give us some time for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not doing a whole like a country doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>exist to I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, this brings me up to this is a really

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<v Speaker 2>short one. I only found a couple sources. And so

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<v Speaker 2>Loretta would Berry was in psychological counseling and it prompted

1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:57.679
<v Speaker 2>her to contact Wyoming authorities in January nineteen ninety and

1:10:57.800 --> 1:11:01.920
<v Speaker 2>asked them to prosecute her father, Calvin Woodbury, for sexually

1:11:02.000 --> 1:11:04.120
<v Speaker 2>molesting her and her cousin in the late fifties and

1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:09.640
<v Speaker 2>early sixties. So these attacks happened in a town called Rawlins.

1:11:10.040 --> 1:11:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Not to be confused with Rawlins, No was humiliating, but Ralins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Loretta Woodbury lived with her mom on a welfare

1:11:20.200 --> 1:11:22.880
<v Speaker 2>ranch before being sent to live with her father and

1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:24.439
<v Speaker 2>stepmother at age seven.

1:11:24.640 --> 1:11:25.519
<v Speaker 3>So that sucks.

1:11:26.000 --> 1:11:29.519
<v Speaker 2>So the abuse started almost immediately, and then on her

1:11:29.560 --> 1:11:32.519
<v Speaker 2>tenth birthday, there's like a memory she has of being

1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:35.479
<v Speaker 2>assaulted by him in his truck that was parked outside

1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:38.479
<v Speaker 2>of town and then took her home to have birthday cake.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fucking psycho. That is fucking harrowing. Oh my god, and.

1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:46.360
<v Speaker 2>He did the classic like this is something special between

1:11:46.400 --> 1:11:50.040
<v Speaker 2>fathers and daughters, like fucking crazy. And the abuse went

1:11:50.080 --> 1:11:52.640
<v Speaker 2>on for seven years, and he kept her quiet by

1:11:52.680 --> 1:11:55.360
<v Speaker 2>saying if she said anything, she would be sent to

1:11:55.400 --> 1:11:59.960
<v Speaker 2>reform school. And the abuse finally ended when woodbury stepped

1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:03.160
<v Speaker 2>sister came to visit. And this girl is so smart.

1:12:03.200 --> 1:12:06.200
<v Speaker 2>She wrote a note to her mom, who had remarried,

1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and it detailed the sexual abuse and she sewed it

1:12:08.840 --> 1:12:13.000
<v Speaker 2>into her sister's coat. So once that letter was found,

1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:14.800
<v Speaker 2>a few but I don't understand why she's not living

1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:17.679
<v Speaker 2>with her mom, Like that's what I don't understand. Yeah,

1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:20.479
<v Speaker 2>so you have this stepsister, like why are you with

1:12:20.520 --> 1:12:24.000
<v Speaker 2>your father. Maybe the mom is like unfit or something. Yeah,

1:12:24.000 --> 1:12:26.040
<v Speaker 2>but she has the stepsister that lives with the mom.

1:12:26.240 --> 1:12:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the stepsister visited and like she's the one

1:12:29.040 --> 1:12:31.080
<v Speaker 2>who read the note and then did something about it.

1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:35.559
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so I'm curious. A few weeks later, social

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<v Speaker 2>workers remove the fourteen year old girl from the house,

1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:41.800
<v Speaker 2>but he was never prosecuted because law enforcement were reluctant

1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:44.519
<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago to prosecute a case like that in quotes,

1:12:45.000 --> 1:12:47.920
<v Speaker 2>So they're removing her. They know there's molestation, but they're like, ah,

1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:52.920
<v Speaker 2>we don't need a prosecutus fucking losers. And then someone

1:12:52.960 --> 1:12:55.760
<v Speaker 2>they were just like not trained to deal with incest.

1:12:56.240 --> 1:12:57.679
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, but don't you know this is wrong

1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:59.839
<v Speaker 2>and someone should be punished, Like I just don't understand

1:12:59.840 --> 1:13:03.160
<v Speaker 2>that instinct of like I guess we should just that's private.

1:13:03.200 --> 1:13:06.479
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what the fuck are you? Yeahh so gross.

1:13:06.760 --> 1:13:08.760
<v Speaker 2>So then she spent the rest of her childhood in

1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:13.840
<v Speaker 2>a Wyoming state hospital. Why not with your mom? And

1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:17.120
<v Speaker 2>then she went to live with her mom at age seventeen. Weird,

1:13:18.080 --> 1:13:20.320
<v Speaker 2>So then I'm like, it was she's supposed to be

1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:22.240
<v Speaker 2>in the state hospital so she could get help with

1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:23.040
<v Speaker 2>the incest.

1:13:23.520 --> 1:13:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like therapy and then went to her mom.

1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But like, I don't understand why should be with the dad,

1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:32.000
<v Speaker 2>why should be taken by the state. Why she'd put

1:13:32.000 --> 1:13:33.760
<v Speaker 2>in a state hospital but then end up living with

1:13:33.800 --> 1:13:36.240
<v Speaker 2>her mom. A few years later, Anne had a stepsister

1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:40.280
<v Speaker 2>living with the mother. So it's really confusing to me. Yeah,

1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:42.759
<v Speaker 2>but you know, she's an adult. And finally, after therapy

1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, she said to The New York Times, I

1:13:45.200 --> 1:13:47.240
<v Speaker 2>could no longer pretend nothing had happened.

1:13:47.280 --> 1:13:48.559
<v Speaker 3>It was just time to do it.

1:13:49.080 --> 1:13:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, this was not a repressed memory

1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that came out, but rather she just like avoided the

1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:55.519
<v Speaker 2>confrontation with her father.

1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:57.600
<v Speaker 3>She also said she finally.

1:13:57.280 --> 1:13:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Did go to the police after repeated efforts to talk

1:13:59.439 --> 1:14:01.360
<v Speaker 2>to her father about the abuse, Like she didn't want

1:14:01.360 --> 1:14:04.240
<v Speaker 2>to press charges, she just wanted some sort of acknowledgment.

1:14:04.360 --> 1:14:07.800
<v Speaker 2>So she confronted him seven years prior, and this was

1:14:07.840 --> 1:14:09.920
<v Speaker 2>pre therapy, and she said it was a fucking mess

1:14:09.920 --> 1:14:12.639
<v Speaker 2>and a disaster. And to the New York Times, she's quoted,

1:14:13.120 --> 1:14:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I would not advise that anyone do this on their own.

1:14:17.000 --> 1:14:20.599
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so she confronted him without any sort of

1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:22.479
<v Speaker 2>like support and it didn't go out.

1:14:23.120 --> 1:14:24.240
<v Speaker 3>So then she.

1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Tried a year before the charges, but he refused to

1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:29.680
<v Speaker 2>go to therapy with her, and she told him, you know,

1:14:29.840 --> 1:14:31.839
<v Speaker 2>he would have to deal with me on this issue

1:14:31.840 --> 1:14:36.479
<v Speaker 2>directly or indirectly. Prosecution was not my first choice. And

1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:39.240
<v Speaker 2>this is all to the Times. So Kurt Kelly was

1:14:39.240 --> 1:14:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the prosecuting attorney for Carbon County, and he said to

1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:46.639
<v Speaker 2>the Times, I filed this case because I had three

1:14:46.720 --> 1:14:49.479
<v Speaker 2>women in different parts of the country, because it's like

1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:52.760
<v Speaker 2>the nieces, like the cousins too. So he goes, I

1:14:52.800 --> 1:14:55.240
<v Speaker 2>filed this case because I had three women in different

1:14:55.240 --> 1:14:57.519
<v Speaker 2>parts of the country who had not talked with each

1:14:57.560 --> 1:14:59.880
<v Speaker 2>other about this, and they all said the same thing.

1:15:00.360 --> 1:15:02.080
<v Speaker 2>If you had asked me a year ago if I

1:15:02.080 --> 1:15:05.040
<v Speaker 2>would ever ever prosecute a thirty year old case that

1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:07.519
<v Speaker 2>was not a murder, I would have said, it won't happen.

1:15:08.840 --> 1:15:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah.

1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:13.400
<v Speaker 2>So this man was charged in August of nineteen ninety

1:15:13.439 --> 1:15:16.320
<v Speaker 2>with five felony sexual abuse counts with assaults on his

1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:19.160
<v Speaker 2>niece and then a third girl whose melestation came to

1:15:19.240 --> 1:15:23.439
<v Speaker 2>light after authorities began an investigation. And Wyoming is actually

1:15:23.560 --> 1:15:25.840
<v Speaker 2>very special and that's what made this case possible at

1:15:25.880 --> 1:15:28.400
<v Speaker 2>all because they have no statue of limitations on criminal

1:15:28.439 --> 1:15:29.360
<v Speaker 2>cases of any kind.

1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Wow. So luckily it was just like one state. Wow. Okay.

1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:37.400
<v Speaker 2>The man was seventy three and living in Texas and

1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:41.519
<v Speaker 2>then pled guilty November twenty eighth, nineteen ninety in Carbon County,

1:15:41.560 --> 1:15:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Wyoming to have raped his ten year old daughter in

1:15:43.600 --> 1:15:46.400
<v Speaker 2>the summer of nineteen sixty two and his thirteen year

1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:49.080
<v Speaker 2>old niece in the summer of nineteen at fifty eight.

1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Part of this plea bargain was prosecutors dropped additional charges

1:15:53.200 --> 1:15:56.040
<v Speaker 2>that happened with his eight year old niece in nineteen

1:15:56.120 --> 1:15:59.680
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight as well. Other counts were for assaults of

1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:02.599
<v Speaker 2>his daughter in nineteen fifty nine and nineteen sixty five

1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:05.720
<v Speaker 2>as well. So it is three counts of rape and

1:16:05.720 --> 1:16:09.360
<v Speaker 2>then two counts of indecent liberties were the charges, and

1:16:09.640 --> 1:16:11.960
<v Speaker 2>so he pled guilty to two counts of rape. And

1:16:12.000 --> 1:16:14.800
<v Speaker 2>then the judge, Larry Lehman sentenced him to only five

1:16:14.880 --> 1:16:19.160
<v Speaker 2>years probation and to undergo counseling and avoid contact with

1:16:19.200 --> 1:16:24.200
<v Speaker 2>his victims. And what the daughter okay, the kids were

1:16:24.200 --> 1:16:25.760
<v Speaker 2>okay with it. I don't know what to say. Like

1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm again like I think he should be in person.

1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Wow, Yeah that's crazy. Yeah, I think so too.

1:16:34.280 --> 1:16:36.200
<v Speaker 1>That's why I said the judge's name so we could

1:16:36.240 --> 1:16:41.439
<v Speaker 1>hate him. He also can't be around children unless another

1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:42.400
<v Speaker 1>adult is present.

1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:45.719
<v Speaker 3>And this is for rape, Like probation for rape is crazy.

1:16:45.720 --> 1:16:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if it was not long ago, but

1:16:47.160 --> 1:16:50.160
<v Speaker 2>all three victims agreed to the sentence before it was

1:16:50.200 --> 1:16:52.920
<v Speaker 2>handed down by the judge. So that's why we kind

1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:56.400
<v Speaker 2>of have to like, oh my god, be okay with it.

1:16:58.040 --> 1:16:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I would have said at least a year. But I'm

1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:03.000
<v Speaker 2>sure it's like really complicated obviously. Yeah, I don't know,

1:17:03.360 --> 1:17:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know. Wow that's crazy. Yeah, not enough.

1:17:08.479 --> 1:17:11.679
<v Speaker 2>But also thank god, like Wyoming has the no statue

1:17:11.680 --> 1:17:14.559
<v Speaker 2>of limitations, you know, not very many people even get

1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:18.320
<v Speaker 2>this lucky into the justice system. South Carolina is the

1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:20.439
<v Speaker 2>only other state that I found that has no statue

1:17:20.479 --> 1:17:24.200
<v Speaker 2>for any criminal prosecution. And then Delaware has no statue

1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:28.799
<v Speaker 2>of limitations for any sexual offense. And then other states

1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:31.080
<v Speaker 2>you can have like a you know, up to when

1:17:31.080 --> 1:17:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you're twenty eight years old or thirty what like Altho

1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:37.160
<v Speaker 2>other states there's like specific stuff, okay, and then the

1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:41.720
<v Speaker 2>other states, like for felonies, there's no statue, but like

1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand if it's no felonies, like rape is

1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:47.120
<v Speaker 2>a felony. So it's all very confusing. There's charts, those websites,

1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:48.599
<v Speaker 2>like you can look at all of it, and it's

1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:52.599
<v Speaker 2>all like really specific and weird. And then some states

1:17:52.640 --> 1:17:55.160
<v Speaker 2>the laws have changed and it's different laws for different

1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:58.800
<v Speaker 2>crimes depending on when they happened before after the law

1:17:58.880 --> 1:17:59.439
<v Speaker 2>is changed.

1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:02.400
<v Speaker 3>So that's another layer to this.

1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:05.639
<v Speaker 2>But also you know, she says, like as a kid,

1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:07.800
<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't have been able to take the stand or

1:18:07.840 --> 1:18:11.439
<v Speaker 2>come forward, and only after so much processing and therapy

1:18:11.560 --> 1:18:15.520
<v Speaker 2>she could even do this. So sometimes she's like I understand,

1:18:15.520 --> 1:18:18.760
<v Speaker 2>like we need to give time for people to deal

1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:20.960
<v Speaker 2>with their abuse, to have the strength to come forward

1:18:21.120 --> 1:18:23.360
<v Speaker 2>instead of trying to like force children on the stand

1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.599
<v Speaker 2>when they can't do it, or like these criminal charges,

1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and so that it's important to not have strict rules

1:18:30.479 --> 1:18:31.360
<v Speaker 2>so people.

1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Can come forward when they're ready.

1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ough, horrible, horrible, But we can get into our

1:18:42.200 --> 1:18:48.120
<v Speaker 1>thoughts and feelings in our post mortem.

1:18:48.200 --> 1:18:50.479
<v Speaker 2>All right, this is a post mortem. I don't know,

1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm not just everyone. Okay,

1:18:55.200 --> 1:18:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling the beeps. I'm holding on, but it's both

1:18:58.960 --> 1:19:00.400
<v Speaker 2>ends at this point, I don't.

1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Know what to tell you.

1:19:02.360 --> 1:19:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Listen, guys, I'm committed to my powering through for you.

1:19:06.040 --> 1:19:08.280
<v Speaker 3>She loves you and is powering through.

1:19:08.520 --> 1:19:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Look, the post mortem on this episode is basically like,

1:19:12.280 --> 1:19:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy that this episode came out in like what

1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:16.559
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine.

1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:18.240
<v Speaker 3>This episode came out in nineteen ninety nine.

1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It came out like right a Sex in the City

1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:23.360
<v Speaker 1>was having its heyday, and still people were like, is

1:19:23.400 --> 1:19:25.920
<v Speaker 1>being a single woman like an okay thing?

1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Like how sad?

1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Like they're trying to parallel like Olivia with And I

1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:33.280
<v Speaker 1>do think it's cool how the show has like grown

1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:36.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years and Olivia's still single and she's fucking

1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:38.080
<v Speaker 1>got an awesome career and she got a kid that

1:19:38.120 --> 1:19:41.400
<v Speaker 1>she wanted and whatever. You know. So, but it is

1:19:41.439 --> 1:19:43.639
<v Speaker 1>funny that back in like the early thing, the second

1:19:43.640 --> 1:19:48.240
<v Speaker 1>episode that they made. But you know, obviously this story

1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:53.000
<v Speaker 1>does change into like a horrific saga of you know,

1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:59.719
<v Speaker 1>fucking generations of familial abuse. And I'm just like, obviously,

1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys, the intro was way to it be, And

1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get into the doom spiral, but

1:20:03.680 --> 1:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I am really appreciating all of you guys that are

1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:08.599
<v Speaker 1>writing to us with your specific stories about how this

1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:14.080
<v Speaker 1>tyrannical administration is hurting you and your communities. Like one

1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.719
<v Speaker 1>person wrote us and said, like, I run the only

1:20:16.920 --> 1:20:22.680
<v Speaker 1>sexual trauma sexual assault trauma center in Oklahoma, and two

1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of our therapists like can't work right now because they're

1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:27.680
<v Speaker 1>funded by the government. So and if you don't think

1:20:27.720 --> 1:20:30.519
<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of familial trauma in Oklahoma, I

1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:35.000
<v Speaker 1>think you're mistaken. So, uh, it's just fucked up that

1:20:35.120 --> 1:20:38.839
<v Speaker 1>now we're just taking away resources from the ful people.

1:20:39.040 --> 1:20:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't care.

1:20:40.120 --> 1:20:41.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if people are still writing you

1:20:41.920 --> 1:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>like don't talk about politics, this isn't for you, then no,

1:20:45.080 --> 1:20:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I know that's what I put that on our belongs.

1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:48.519
<v Speaker 3>I saw that.

1:20:48.600 --> 1:20:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like they're literally like gutting like violence against women acts,

1:20:53.680 --> 1:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>like all these protections against uh that are that help

1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:59.599
<v Speaker 1>women and victims And you're like what you how can

1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:02.559
<v Speaker 1>you listen to this show and be like, oh my god,

1:21:02.560 --> 1:21:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Benson is my girl and then be like, but yeah,

1:21:05.960 --> 1:21:08.479
<v Speaker 1>we need to stop giving handouts to victims, like get

1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:09.160
<v Speaker 1>out of my life.

1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:12.880
<v Speaker 3>We don't like you, we don't like you, we don't

1:21:12.920 --> 1:21:13.240
<v Speaker 3>need it.

1:21:13.520 --> 1:21:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't you don't want to feed children and do medical

1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:21.599
<v Speaker 2>research and have schools and art and libraries and take

1:21:21.640 --> 1:21:26.240
<v Speaker 2>care of veterans in the national parks, Then this isn't

1:21:26.240 --> 1:21:26.960
<v Speaker 2>for you.

1:21:26.600 --> 1:21:29.479
<v Speaker 1>You don't belong here. Go fuck yourself, We don't have

1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:30.360
<v Speaker 1>anything in common.

1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Fuck out of our podcast, like or just keep your

1:21:34.200 --> 1:21:37.559
<v Speaker 2>mouth shut, like things aren't for you. You do not

1:21:37.720 --> 1:21:42.080
<v Speaker 2>get to ruin the lives of children, adults, like everywhere.

1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:44.479
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna impact the whole world, and then fucking

1:21:45.840 --> 1:21:46.640
<v Speaker 2>everything's for me.

1:21:46.840 --> 1:21:47.200
<v Speaker 3>It's not.

1:21:47.479 --> 1:21:50.639
<v Speaker 2>I hope you feel uncomfortable everywhere you go, You fucking

1:21:50.760 --> 1:21:55.439
<v Speaker 2>nasty fascists. You know the quote, You know the quote

1:21:55.439 --> 1:21:57.599
<v Speaker 2>and the third we don't look at thirties. Oh those

1:21:57.640 --> 1:22:04.040
<v Speaker 2>were Germans. You were all Nazis. History do not differentiate. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:22:04.560 --> 1:22:07.519
<v Speaker 2>it's so true. Okay, all right, we gotta let Lisa

1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:09.880
<v Speaker 2>go do her thing. We gotta do the next. I

1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>got it, I got it, I got.

1:22:11.080 --> 1:22:11.639
<v Speaker 3>I got it.

1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Sorry if this is triggering anybody who is easily nauseous,

1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:18.559
<v Speaker 1>but I do think it's hilarious that Lisa powered through

1:22:18.600 --> 1:22:23.759
<v Speaker 1>to come record today, and we love you guys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's move on to what would Sister Peg Do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our weekly segment where we point you towards

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<v Speaker 1>an organization, a documentary, an article, something to give you

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<v Speaker 1>more info about what we talked about in today's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Although today we're not really going with anything we.

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<v Speaker 1>Talked about in today's episode because I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's more pressing issues happening to us right now. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode's from nineteen ninety nine, and so I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to point you to the National Children's Alliance and the

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<v Speaker 1>Crime Victim's Fund Stabilization Act. There is a new bill

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<v Speaker 1>that's been introduced to Congress called and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>this is a US only. Sorry for our Australian and

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<v Speaker 1>UK and Canadian listeners. We love you all so much,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're in crisis over here. There's a new bill

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<v Speaker 1>that's been introduced to Congress called the Crime Victims Fund

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<v Speaker 1>Stabilization Act. The bill will stabilize funding for the Victims

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<v Speaker 1>of Crime Act, which is an act that funds children

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<v Speaker 1>advocacy centers and services that support abuse children.

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<v Speaker 3>Very timely and actually very.

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<v Speaker 1>Connected to the episode because the poor woman in this

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<v Speaker 1>episode was you know, very abused.

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<v Speaker 3>Both women.

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<v Speaker 1>With so many government agencies cutting funding and personnel, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an important time to solidify funding for children who

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<v Speaker 1>are victims of abuse. So for more information and to

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<v Speaker 1>find out how you can urge your Congressional representative to

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<v Speaker 1>support the Crime Victims Fund Stabilization Act, go to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Children'salliance dot org and that, as always, will be

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<v Speaker 1>linked in our show notes and we always post are

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<v Speaker 1>what would sister peg dos in our stories and those

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<v Speaker 1>get saved forever in our WWSPD highlight on our Instagram page,

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<v Speaker 1>which is thats.

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<v Speaker 3>Messed Up Pod? I'm back. Do you want to say

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<v Speaker 3>the last sentence? You want me to do it? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I also can't believe it? And talk about SNL fifty

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<v Speaker 2>You love that show? Oh yeah, we'll talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>next week. Don't worry, we'll talk about it next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week's episode, guys will be Redemption from season three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and it will be Liza's redemption.

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<v Speaker 4>Tune in.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be back next week. We love you, guys. Saw

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<v Speaker 3>better that wasn't I got a lot out? It makes

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<v Speaker 3>you feel better, it really does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, I, Casey, Casey, not to ruin every Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>not to ruin it for you. On the Drag Race

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<v Speaker 2>Snatch Game, someone was David Lynch.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh yeah, yeah, oh I love that love David.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really cool. I know that somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw your blue velvet and I said it he's

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<v Speaker 1>good to do. Oh it's snatch game, girl. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go watch right now. I'm gonna go watch right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys so much for listen to the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you listened this far, you're one of the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking real ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, comment David Lynch on the Instagram and we'll know

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<v Speaker 1>that you.

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