WEBVTT - 007 Rich on Tech Radio Show - February 18, 2023 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.120 Is the new bing Ai on the verge of a 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.920 mental breakdown? Is Samsung's new two hundred megapixel camera worth it? 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:12.120 The results of my photo and video tests. A cure 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.680 for loneliness is easier to dial up than you might think. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.840 Plus your tech questions answered? What's going on? I'm Rich 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.919 Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show where 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.840 I talk about the tech stuff I think you should 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.560 know about. It's also the place where I answer your 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.199 questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.040 five in Los Angeles, broadcasting to you live right now. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.480 Welcome to the show. Phone lines are open at one 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.159 eight eight eight Rich one oh one. That's triple eight 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.959 seven four to two, four to one zero one. Give 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.320 me a call if you have a question about technology. Well, 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.560 it happened once again last night. And you know, I 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.480 don't even want to admit this happens often in my house, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.280 but it happened seventy five streaming services and nothing on. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.240 I don't know why this keeps happening to me. But 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.080 Friday nights we've kind of earmarked as our you know, 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.880 enjoyable movie night. Just relax with a nice movie. We 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:20.800 subscribe to all the different streaming services Netflix, Hulu, Hbo, Amazon, 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.160 YouTube TV. But it seems like every single time I 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.800 want to sit down to watch a movie, we can't 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.959 decide on which one to watch. So what do I do? 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.840 I go to my apps, and I of course tweeted 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.919 this and everyone said, Rich, you got to get some apps. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.080 You gotta get some apps like real Good, that's our 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.679 eel good and just watch. Yeah. I have the apps 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.160 and I use them, and I keep a list of 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.200 all the movies I want to watch on these apps. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.880 But for some reason, when I sit down in front 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.640 of that TV, I don't want to watch any of 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.560 those movies that I've bookmarked on the apps. Don't know 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.160 why that happens. So what do I do? I start 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.680 opening up the apps one by I won on my 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:05.560 TV screen. I go from Netflix to Hulu to Hbo Max, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:12.360 to Amazon Prime, to YouTube TV to Apple TV, and 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.120 I look at all the different things and I just 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.079 can't decide. Because you have to sit there and look 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.600 at the description, and then you try to watch a 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.200 trailer it's too loud. You put the volume down. Then 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.000 you got to bring you know, your wife or your 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.240 partner into the mix and ask them what they think. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.200 And then of course we were trying to incorporate the 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.240 kids last night, so we asked them what they think, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.600 and they just want to play roadblocks. So it was 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.880 a whole big thing, and we ended up deciding on 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.360 this is embarrassing. We ended up deciding on an old movie, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.960 high school musical, which I've never seen, and my kids 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.720 actually liked it. I fell asleep about seventeen minutes in. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.600 I thought it was a cute movie. It looked cute 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.040 from what I saw, But I mean, we ended up 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.919 watching a movie that was over a decade old. When 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.600 I'm paying twenty bucks a month for all these different 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.040 services at you know, twenty dollars each or whatever it is, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.440 so I've got to find a better way. It brought 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.600 me back to the days of my Friday nights growing 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.119 up in New Jersey, where the family would round up, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.760 you'd get in the car, you'd drive to Blockbuster and 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.960 guess what, you saw six or seven movies that you 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.600 wanted to watch instantly. And by the way, the biggest 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.799 movies had like one hundred and fifty copies, so you 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.960 knew those were the movies to see. Nowadays, everything is 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.880 so crowded on these little streaming services, and everything looks 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.000 the same that you can't really say, like, con is 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.839 that a good movie you're actually researching to see, like wait, 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.560 did I already watch that movie? Because everything's just sort 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.960 of mixed together. So bring me the days of the 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:42.200 blockbuster walking back into that place and trying to decide 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.160 on movies. And of course by the time you decide 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.480 on a movie, it's not available. It's the one that 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.160 they don't have any copies of. So you go to 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.760 the checkout and you say, hey, did anyone return that movie? 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.000 And you wait there and you see if someone brings 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.400 it back in. We used to bring like three or 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.040 four movies home, and by the time we got around 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:02.520 to returning them, of course, we had major late fees. Anyway, 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.120 I just had to get that off my chest. I 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.040 don't know if that's just me or if you share 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.880 in that same streaming situation where it's just this uncertainty 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.680 of you don't want to make the wrong choice about 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.839 what to stream. I was home in New Jersey last week. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.200 I did the show remotely. I thought it worked out 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.320 pretty well. Of Course, when I'm home, i'm tech support 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:26.400 for my family. My parents, especially my mom's internet. I 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.359 was at her house. It was so slow. It was 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.440 just a crawl, and I'm like, what is going on here? 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.200 So of course I reset the modem, I reset the router, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.640 I do another speed test. If you want to test 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.240 your speed at home, you can go to a website 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:42.440 called fast dot com. Fast dot com. That's the easiest 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.400 way I know to do a quick speed test. It 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.840 was actually created by Netflix, ironically, to make sure your 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.040 speed was fast enough to stream, which you don't really 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.960 need much to stream these days. Anyway, it was like 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.640 twenty five megabits per second. It was really slow, so 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.360 I'm like, that's odd. So then of course I get 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.600 on the internet and I'm looking up he bill. Mom, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.440 can I have your information so I can look up 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.520 your bill? Let me see what you're paying for. She 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.520 was paying one hundred and three dollars a month for 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.800 twenty five megabits of service, which is absolutely ludicrous in 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.719 my head. So of course, now I'm calling the cable 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.839 company and I call them up and the first person 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.440 I get says, oh, let me let me trans They 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.720 just want to get you off the phone as soon 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.720 as possible, so let me let me transfer you, let 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.680 me pass the buck, let me transfer you to someone else. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.880 So they transferred me to or they wanted to transfer 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.720 me to tech support, and I said, no, this is 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.839 not a tech support thing. This is not a tech 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.719 support question. This is a billing question. This is a 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.159 why am I paying so much for so little question? 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.880 And the phone goes silent, and I'm just like, did 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.159 I get hung up on? So I get finally set 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.240 here I would like to cancel the service? How what 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.800 does that mean? And they said, oh, you want to cancel? 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.080 Let me get you to that department. That's really the 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.200 only department that could do anything these days. Right when 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.279 you threaten to cancel, like it seems like nobody else 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.760 can help, except when you say I no longer want 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.640 to pay for this, And then they finally get you 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.640 to someone that can help you. So I get over 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.520 to the person that is cancelation, and this person's actually 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:12.080 quite nice. But I came prepared to this conversation, and 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.080 I came prepared saying, look, I'm paying one hundred and 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.560 three bucks a month for twenty five megabits. And just 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.080 knowing the lingo really helps, because if you don't really 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.159 understand what you're paying, or what the speed is or 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.039 what all that stuff. They kind of take advantage of you. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.200 So I was kind of flexing a little bit of 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.440 my tech knowledge and I was like, look, I'm like 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.880 I just did two other you know, I just did 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.320 two speed tests on a T Mobile phone inside my 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.720 mom's house and also a Verizon phone. And these mobile 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.560 networks have faster speeds. And I know that these mobile 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.279 networks are offering home internet. So I could probably switch 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.320 to T Mobile Internet for like fifty bucks a month, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.320 or I can switch to Verizon home Internet for twenty 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.040 five dollars a month. And I wouldn't even need someone 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.960 to come to my house. I would just put up 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.160 this antenna that they send me. And when you start 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.960 saying these things, it registers with them, and they go, oh, oh, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.000 we got we got someone who knows what they're doing here. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.560 Uh oh, we better give them a good deal. And 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.720 so I started speaking their language, and you know, they 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.280 kind of tried to say, you know this is you know, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.240 you're paying for one hundred. I said, no, I'm looking 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.240 at my bill here, it's twenty five. So finally they 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.720 look up in the super secret system, like what can 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.200 we offer this person to stay with us, and of 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.560 course they type away. You hear all the typing type 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.800 type type, clickity clack, clickity clack, and so finally they 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.440 come back, Oh, we can give you this for that. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.520 I said, Okay, that's pretty good, but my mom doesn't 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.000 need all of that. Okay, clickity clack, clickity clack. You know, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.000 it's like when you're at the airport back in the 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.760 day when they used to actually type stuff into a 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.920 computer and it would take like thirty seconds for them 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.440 to come back with something. That's what happened. Okay, we 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.960 can give you this. How about we'll give you eighty 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.880 bucks a month for five hundred megabits per second. And 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.160 I said, now that sounds pretty good. You're talking what 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.920 that's more than ten times, that's twenty times for at 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.720 least twenty dollars less. I think that sounds good. So 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.920 I said, let's do it. You've got a deal. You 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.760 kept me from going over the edge to Verizon or 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.040 T Mobile for something different. And he said, okay, let's 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.440 do it. And he was very friendly, and I'm you know, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.800 I'm I'm telling you this story so you understand that 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.880 you should be doing this as well. If you're not 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.680 calling your cable company or your internet provider, or your 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.760 cell phone provider or anyone that you can get on 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.880 the phone with a service that you're just paying for 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.240 every month, you got to call them up. I know 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.120 it's a pain, I know it's not fun, but you 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.200 have to do it. And the reason you have to 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.520 do it is because they love when those promotions expire. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.880 And when those promotions expire, they've still got you on 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.560 auto pay or you know, you still got that you know, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.840 motem in your house or that router, and so it's 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.199 just easy to keep paying that bill. And I'll be honest, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.160 I'm guilty of this. My internet recently went up by 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.560 like twenty bucks a month, and that crept up from 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.880 ten dollars extra a month, so now I think I'm 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.160 up to like thirty or forty dollars a month then 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.440 I was originally paying when I set it up. And yeah, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.280 I know I need to get on the horn with 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.520 my cable provider and call them up and do this 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.440 whole dance. But I don't feel like it. And we 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.440 never feel like doing this. Who wants to do this? 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.240 And they again, you know, unless you get that right person, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.600 they may not be willing to help you out on 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.280 this stuff, so you really got a call twice. Sometimes. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.080 I had a similar experience with an airline over the 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.719 summer where I really really was proud of myself for 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.840 making the case. I had a credit that expired and 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.679 it took like three calls, but I got someone that 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.840 really was willing to help. But I think kindness really 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.200 goes a long way. Like you have to understand like 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.640 they want to help you, not really you want to 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.240 help them, not really. It's this little dance of like 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.200 two people that both want to protect their interests. But 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:48.040 you got to come to a common place in this world. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.840 And I will tell you one keyword, one phrase that 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.080 has helped me out that I think really really helps 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.080 you say to them, can you make a one time exception? 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.840 How about just a one time exception? And I think 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.319 that that really opens up the door to many many 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.800 deals on your end that will benefit you because they say, Okay, 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.440 I'm not going to typically do this for most people, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.360 but I'll do it for you. And they want to 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.200 feel good knowing that they're flexing their their might and 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.640 youre flexing your Okay, I understand I'm not going to 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.520 tell my friends about this because this was a one 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.400 time thing. You're not going to do this for anyone else. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.400 And that seems to sort of work. I don't know 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.880 why it works, but it just does. So anyway, my 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.040 mom's got faster internet. You have your knowledge. You need 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.600 now to go out there and get some money off 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.440 your bills. And I'm going to do it myself one 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.320 of these days when I've got some extra time, and 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.920 I'll tell you how that works. Also, I help my 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.040 dad with his computer. I'll tell you more about that 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.160 in a little bit, because that was something that was 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.720 pretty interesting to watch people on their computer, to see 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.640 how they do things and to watch how they're sort 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.840 of you know, there could be some stumbles along the 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.400 way there. I'll tell you about that more later in 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.800 the show. I've got so much to talk about today. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.520 He could tell them fired up today, right, I can't wait. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.160 I've got a new reason why Twitter users are all 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.720 up in arms once again. I'm gonna give you my 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.480 thoughts on the Samsung Galaxy S twenty three camera. I 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.319 took a lot of photos and videos with this thing, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.680 so i'll give you my verdict on that I've got 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.080 three great guests this week. I've got Bing's head of 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.880 search to talk about the new Bing AI and how 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.640 Microsoft is learning from its mistakes. Plus an app that 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.040 will help you keep track of your tax write offs 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.800 using artificial intelligence. And the author of a newsletter that 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.839 I open every single time it hits my inbox. Jared 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:31.720 Newman is going to join me on the show to 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:36.079 talk about cord cutting, privacy and more. Plus your calls 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.199 coming up next at triple eight rich one oh one. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.400 Give me a call if you have a question about technology. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.280 The phone number is eight eight eight seven four two 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.240 four to one zero one. My name is Rich Dmuro. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.600 You're listening to Rich on Tech. Your calls up next. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.600 Welcome back to Rich on Tech. I'm Rich Dmiro, sitting 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:01.360 here hanging out talking technology with you. Phone lines are 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.800 open at eight eight eight rich one oh one. That's 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:09.240 eight eight eight seven two four to one zero one. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:14.120 Let's go to Louis in Orange County, California. Louis, you're 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:14.800 on with Rich. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:15.439 How you doing? 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:15.720 Rich? 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.000 I am doing Because of my lack of knowledge, the 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.920 best way I can ask this question is I have 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:27.120 I've got the bug to upgrade my audio system. I 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.959 have a receiver. Uh, we have Wi Fi in the house, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.160 and we're using the fire stick to get all the 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.040 streaming services, whether they be audio or video. I want 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:42.440 to upgrade to a processor that does Bluetooth. Will that 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.480 work with all those streaming services by pairing it to 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:47.280 the fire stick? 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.680 Uh? Yeah, the fire stick supports Bluetooth, so you want 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.520 to So you want to pair some sort. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.480 Of It's an Emo Tiva processor. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:58.079 Okay. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.679 So it's a little and it only does Bluetooth, doesn't do. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.599 Wi Fi okay, And yes, so you just want to 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.120 link that up. But now when you say processor, you 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.559 want to pre amplify. Okay, you want to send the 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.200 audio throughout the house using. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.000 This, Well just to the theater room, the main room, right, yeah, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.319 and has that capability. Yes, I can do other rooms too. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.080 Yeah. I mean have you tried connecting a Bluetooth device 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.040 to your firestick? 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.720 Well, here's the part I don't want to say. I 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:28.600 have a san HAI's a wireless headphone going to the 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.880 receiver to it. The receiver does also Bluetooth. Sure, so yes, yes, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.680 and that works flawlessly. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.360 Okay, but that's through the receiver. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.559 Have you tried to receive and that's going to go away, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:40.079 right right. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.240 Have you tried directly connecting the Bluetooth headphones to the 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.440 firestick because they do have that capability. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.680 I'm going to try that. Okay, we'll try that. Will 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:49.960 that answer the whole question? 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.800 I think so, because once you get those Now here's 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:56.240 the thing. In certain cases, like this device that you're 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.200 trying to connect via Bluetooth, if it doesn't support a 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.800 certain profile that the Firestick wants. Like the firestick primarily 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.679 is there to support, you know, headphones, like audio headphones, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.240 so and it may support I'm not really sure if 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:14.720 the stick supports any sort of gaming controller via Bluetooth, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.600 but I know it does the headphones for sure. But 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.720 the question is when you try to link up this 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.320 other little device, is the Firestick going to accept it. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:24.840 That's the only thing you got to figure out. And 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.640 the only way you can figure that out is by 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:27.520 trying that out. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.880 Right, or I can ask the manufacturer. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.800 Yeah, the manufacturer may know for sure, but but for 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.600 sure the Firestick definitely supports it. You'll be okay with that. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.280 But just to test it out, I would just link 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.240 up your headphones so you put them into pairing mode, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.160 go into the settings on the fire TV stick. It'll say, like, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:47.960 you know, it's in the setting somewhere it has like 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.800 Bluetooth devices. You know, you put it into pairing mode, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.480 it should see that device. You click it and just 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.040 try that out first off, and then once you've got 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.120 that confidence, then you can go ahead and connect this 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.040 other device. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:05.920 Truth signal is good as a Wi Fi signal that's 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.240 hardwired into the receiver. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.760 Now, I don't think a Bluetooth signal is going to 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.640 be good as good as a hard wired signal now. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.480 But with that said, I think it'll be fine. So 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:18.720 I think it'll be I mean, look, you're gonna have 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:19.920 to try it out. You're gonna have to see that 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.880 could be some latency, that's the biggest that's the biggest 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.960 question is is there going to be a limpsake a 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.040 lip sync issue with what you're watching on TV to 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.600 the Bluetooth you know, going through that system and out 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:32.360 through the speakers. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.680 Right, So it's not only audio quality possibly loss possibly 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.440 it's also lip syncing and things such as that. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.120 Exactly. Now, I've got you know, a Sono system that 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.840 has they know that you know, the wireless is a 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.720 part of it, and it has some adjustments for that. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.560 I don't know if those adjustments are built into the 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.840 fire stick, but that's something you can check as well. 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.280 But I don't think that's the case. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.200 What if What if they built into the processor. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.240 Yeah, if you have that, then you can that would 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.640 work too. Yeah, exactly, just adjust it by a couple 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:02.360 of milliseconds. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.800 All right, that this helps a lot. Thank you, finally 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.040 finally learn something good. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.040 All right, louis happy to help. Thanks for calling today. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.360 I appreciate it. Phone lines are open at triple eight 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.840 rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.440 to two, four to one zero one. I told you 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.920 that Twitter users are up in arms once again. It 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.480 seems like nobody's happy on Twitter, except for the people 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.480 that are on Twitter because they love Twitter. So I 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.720 don't know why they're always angry, but they're there, they're 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.400 on Twitter, but yet they're angry about Twitter and all. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.200 This started, of course, when Elon took over Twitter. But 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.600 now a big change on Twitter. They are going to 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:40.400 force folks to use a two factor authentication app instead 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.400 of a phone number. Now, if you pay for Twitter Blue, 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.880 which is their subscription service, you can still use your 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:50.280 phone number, but they said historically the phone numbers have 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.480 been a good form of two factor authentication, but they 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.440 have been abused by bad actors. So we're no longer 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.720 going to allow counts to enroll in text message two 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.360 factor authentication. And if you're not familiar with two factor authentication, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.240 that is, when you use your phone number to secure 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.919 your account, and when you try to log in, the 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.320 service will text a number like a special one time 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.840 code to your phone, and then you have to put 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.440 in that code. And the idea is that the bad 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.840 person may have access to your account, but they don't 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.520 have access to your phone, so they wouldn't get that 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.480 one time text. Anyway, if you're on Twitter and you're 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.239 not paying, you're gonna have to use an app. I 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.000 recommend an app called Authie, or you can use an 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.960 app called Microsoft Authenticator or Google Authenticator. Any of those 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.119 will work. In fact, they're all better than using sms 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:43.080 in general, because SMS can be redirected, it can be intercepted, 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.440 and so it's better in general. But you can still 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.800 be mad. But I've been recommending two factor authentication accounts 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.960 for a long time, or two factor authentication apps for 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.800 a very long time. All right. Coming up on the show, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.760 we are going to talk to Diva Kumar. She is 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:02.000 the head of search at BING and if you've been 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.120 following Bing, you know they've got this new AI system. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.439 We're going to talk to Divva about that. Coming up 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:14.200 next on rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.159 Joining me now is Divia Kumar. She is the senior 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.760 director of Marketing for Search and AI at Microsoft. Divia, 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.400 thanks for joining me. Very exciting week for you. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.280 It has been a very exciting week. Thank you for 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:25.639 having me. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.440 So tell me about being AI. Is that what we're 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.879 calling it is? And what have you learned in the 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.200 past couple of days about how people are using this. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.800 We're calling it the new Bing and we've been getting 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:43.000 an incredible amount of feedback, overwhelmingly positive and some very 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.480 appreciated negative feedback as well, which is exactly what we 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:51.000 wanted by launching the product. And we're seeing that a 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.200 lot of people are actually engaging heavily with the chat experience, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.080 which is new because we've never had chat experience in 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.320 search before. We are essentially introducing new user EXPERI. This 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.080 is part of search and seeing how people are engaging 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.199 with it has been fantastic, and obviously the reason it's 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.199 an early product and the reason why we wanted to 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.600 bring it to market is to start to get feedback 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.000 from real world scenarios. And that's exactly what we've been getting. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.000 Everybody's stress testing it and then giving us feedback, and 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.040 the team is hard at work trying to address some 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:20.480 of the feedback that we're getting as well. 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.840 So explain to me what is the New Being. 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.560 The New Being is essentially powered by an AI model, 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.560 a very powerful AI model. We're calling it the Prometheus model. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.479 So what the Prometheus model is is the latest model 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.960 from open Ai, more powerful than the one that's powering CHATGBT, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.520 combined with the search technology from Microsoft, and that's the 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.680 Prometheus model. And so that model is is what powers 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.919 all of the search plus answer, search plus chat experience 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.400 that you're seeing with the New Being. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.560 Now, some people might think, because chat GBT became so 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:01.160 popular seemingly overnight, Microsoft has the New ban seemingly overnight. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.720 Have you been working on this for a while or 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.119 is this something that you just sort of cobbled together quickly. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.160 The team has been working on this for a while, obviously, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.399 Microsoft has had a partnership with open Ai for a 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.920 few years now, and the engineering team is ben hard 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.200 at work working on this, So it is not something 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.800 that was just coupled together overnight, and it's something that 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.000 the team has been excited to bring to market and 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:22.800 start to get real world examples. 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.880 From what is the power of the new Bang, what 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.480 can I do with this new model and how is 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.600 it different than chat GPT? 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.399 The New Being what it does or what it offers 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:38.359 for consumers is today's search hasn't fundamentally changed or search 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.439 engines haven't fundamentally changed for over twenty years. And with 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.480 the New Being, what we've introduced is we've continued to 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.239 give user's choice with how search works today. So if 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.560 you did a query, you still get the familiar blue 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.800 links on the page, but for more more nuanced queries, 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.280 what we're also giving you is a distilled version of 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.199 an answer, so you get a summarized answer, so that 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.040 way you have a great starting point with that, and 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.480 we've also introduced a chat experience, so now you see 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.479 an answer and you want to continue to refine it, 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.160 you don't have to start a new search. You can 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.160 go into chat mode and actually just converse with being 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.719 to continue to refine that, and being actually remembers the 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.440 context of the prompt that you gave, and so you're 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.760 actually just having a very natural conversation with being to 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.400 continue to refine that. So all of those capabilities are 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.080 not something that you've seen with search before. So we've 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.080 essentially just reinventing the category. 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.000 Is this search engine and this AI learning who I am? 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.280 Like my preferences? Like if I mentioned that I like 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:41.000 vegan food, does it remember that throughout my searches until 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:41.439 I tell it? 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:46.840 Otherwise it only remembers the context of a single session. Obviously, 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.800 the privacy policies that we have for search still applies 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.600 to the new experience, So in a single context, so 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.120 a few turns, it will remember the context, but after 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.400 you've started a new search, the context doesn't pass through 0:21:58.400 --> 0:21:59.200 into the next one. 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.800 It's very interesting though, because it's so different than what 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.800 I'm used to, and you know, it kind of takes 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:05.919 them getting used to. So what are some of the 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:07.960 things I can do with this, and what's the advantage 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:11.800 to this chat engine versus just regular search. 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:14.320 One of some of the things that you can do 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.320 is obviously search today does a few things really well, 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.520 which is what designed to do. If it's a navigational 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.800 query or if it's an informational query, that is, if 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.040 you're wanting to just find a website, search is great 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.280 for that. If you're wanting to find the latest sports scores, 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.320 search is great for that. But if you get into 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.000 territories where you want to find or you're searching for 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.760 something a little bit more complex or nuanced, like you've 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.480 got a query that might have multiple parameters. Hey, I 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.800 want to go to this place, and I want to 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.320 know what the weather is and I want to get 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.000 the five star hotels there, or whatever the combination of 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.520 things are. You can now just ask being and you 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.159 can give it those multiple parameters and it'll try to 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.200 sort of cast a white net and pull together a summary, 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.600 but it's the starting point. I'll have annotations and you 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.359 can look at exactly where it's pulling content from, so 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.600 it's full more some of those sort of more nuanced 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.520 quer is where maybe you're not looking for one single 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.960 answer and you want multiple and you're just looking for 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:05.640 a starting point. 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.720 So that's great for such So I'm sitting here with 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:10.720 Diva Kumar, the senior director of Marketing for Search and 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.000 Ai at Microsoft. We're actually at a Microsoft event where 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.359 they're having journalists in to kind of check out the 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.040 new bing I'd be remiss if I didn't ask about 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.359 the recent news reports these folks that have posted screenshots 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.640 of you know, and we've seen the headlines that bing 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:27.840 ai has already gone off the rails. You know, they 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.879 really kind of poked and prodded this new AI search 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:36.199 to return some really wild answers, making fun of people 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.440 questioning their existence. All these things that I've seen online. 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.640 What do you make of that? Is that real? Number? One? 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.680 Is that expected? And why is that happening. 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.560 One of the reasons why we decided to go to 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.240 market now is there's only so much you can test 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:55.200 something so nascent as an AI based product with the 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.639 within Microsoft, within the company itself, and we wanted to 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.679 get early adopters and people who are willing to stressed 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.480 as the system out and get their hands on the product. 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.840 And so the feedback is actually welcome feedback because we 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.879 actually now have a huge, much more bigger sample size 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.120 of people struss testing it out, what's working, what's not working, 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.119 And as soon as we are seeing some of the 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.679 feedback come in. We've got a team taking copious notes 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.919 of the kind of feedback, testing it again within Microsoft 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:26.919 and trying to address some of those problems. And we 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.280 kind of put out a blog yesterday especially calling out 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.320 some of the feedback that we've seen from the market, 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.320 both positive and negative, and it's very welcome and actually expected. 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:37.880 This is also one of the reasons why we're actually 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:39.919 putting it out there, and we want to get more 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.919 critical feedback. We want to get both negative positive feedback 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.280 and tell us feature options like what would you like 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.040 to see in the product, And so we want to overtime, 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.360 iterate and improve to get make sure that everybody's confident 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.399 the consumers us before we actually scale out. 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:00.480 Now, this got me to download the Edge explore are 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.560 the Edge web browser. It got me to use Bing 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.320 as my search engine. Is that all kind of the 0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.920 point of this is to get people to use Bing. 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:11.960 And you think if they're using Bing for the first 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:13.920 time with this new AI tech, they're going to be 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:18.119 impressed and maybe you'll take some market share from the 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:18.760 market leader. 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.480 There's a lot of opportunity for being to grow in 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.240 the market. And at the end of the day, Our 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.160 focus is to make sure that we're actually bringing unique 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.800 consumer value and that's the focus. How can search be better? 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.280 The search category hasn't really changed fundamentally for a long time. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.679 We see an opportunity for it to do better and 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.760 to actually offer value. We hope with that value we 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.560 are seeing higher engagement and that would be the ultimate 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:46.400 goal is to provide value, engage users and there's only upside. 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.760 How do folks get access to the new Bang? 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.119 Go to Bang dot com slash new or go to 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.000 bing dot com and sign up for the waitlist. 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:59.280 Diva Kumar, Senior director of Marketing for Search and AI 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.080 at Microsoft. Thanks so much for joining me today. More 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:06.040 of rich on Tech coming up after this. Welcome back 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.680 to rich on Tech. My name is rich Dmiria. You 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:13.919 can find me online at rich on Tech. I'm on Instagram, 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:18.320 I'm on Twitter, I'm on Facebook. Where else? I think 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.680 that's it for now. Oh, also the True app, try 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.680 True dot com, slash rich on tech and my website 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.440 rich on tech dot tv. Can you sense the pattern there? 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.479 Let's go to Freddie in New York. Freddie, you are 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.320 on with rich Although. 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.840 Rich can you wick him in a recorder for Aaron 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.320 Trump FireWire like a DVR, So. 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:48.200 Like a DVR for you said, for firestick, Yes, okay, 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:54.040 DVR for firestick. Good question. So it's funny. Amazon had 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.359 their own for a while. It was called the Recast TV, 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.600 which I purchased day one because I thought it was 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:05.080 so great, and then they dropped it like everything Amazon does. Amazon, 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.840 I don't know who has a shorter attention span, Amazon 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.360 or Google, because they put out products and then they 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.840 drop them. And so I had this Recast recorder as 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.440 a DVR that connects to an antenna and it integrates 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.280 very nicely with the firestick. But I don't believe they 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.040 sell it anymore, so that one is probably a non starter. 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.840 And I just tossed mind sadly. It was let's see 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.639 do they still sell it now? They don't sell it anymore, Okay. 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.240 So my second choice for this, if you want a 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.080 DVR for your firestick, would be to do something called 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:41.159 Tableau tablo. And this is the other thing I have 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.840 hooked up at my house. I have an antenna on 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:46.000 my roof because why pay for local channels when you 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.159 can get them over the air. And so if you 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.000 have one of these devices, you can record it like 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.040 a DVR, and then send it through your firestick and 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.600 there's a Tableau app. And what I like about Tableau 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.320 is that they've got native apps for most of the 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.320 main devices. So if you have an Apple TV, if 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.399 you have a fire TV, what's the other one, Chrome 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.960 cast Roku, So they're pretty much like they know what 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.919 they're doing, and you get this little box. You connect 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.600 your antenna to the box. The box sometimes has built 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.879 in hard drive, other times you have to connect a 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.720 hard drive to it to get that storage space, and 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.160 then you can record stuff. And the way that Tableau works, 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.120 and what I like about it is that you can 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:27.959 either pay it's a couple bucks a month. I think 0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.400 it's either five bucks a month to record to set 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:34.520 scheduled recordings like two weeks out, or you cannot pay 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.680 and then you can't really set scheduled recordings, but you 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.200 can still record stuff. It's just more manual. So it's 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.200 kind of like that freemium model where they get you 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.800 on board and you can decide do you want to 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.280 pay more or pay less. So that's the one I like, 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.880 is the Tableau. And then of course once you're looking 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.760 at the Tableau page, you have to decide how many 0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.160 things you want to record it once. So they've got 0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:00.239 different Tableau products that have different tuners in them. So 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.880 the standard one has two channels at once, and then 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.120 the higher end one has four channels at once. So 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.920 once you connect your antenna, it will either split it 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.280 into two recordings or into four, depends how much stuff 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.880 you want to record. Now, there are other products out 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.440 there that can do this. There's a product called AIRTV 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.320 made by Sling and this is a product I've tested 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.280 in the past. I've not tested it in a while, 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.280 but it's very similar, but this one is much more 0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.120 integrated into Sling TV. So if you have a Sling 0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.800 TV subscription, the idea is that your local channels will 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:39.040 live alongside channels like HGTV and all those other channels 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.440 that are on your programming grid. So that's another one, 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.120 but that's sort of its own thing. So AIRTV is 0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.600 much more of a how do I explain that, It's 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.320 much more like if you're a Sling TV subscriber, it's 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.600 probably better to have that, but I think Tableau is 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.800 better if you just are doing your own thing. Of course, 0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:01.160 Tvo also has their own product. They have a TVO 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.080 was my first DVR, and I was a big fan 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:09.440 of TVO for so many years. I'll never forget buying 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.840 the first tv O. I've told this story so many times. 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.440 I have two stories. Actually I bought a TVO. I 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.360 was actually late for work. I was working in Yakima, Washington, 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.000 and I got this TVO delivered to my house and 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.120 the delivery I was working like the night shift, like 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.080 the three pm shift and TV news you have like 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.800 two shifts, you have like the morning shift or like 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.080 the afternoon shift which starts at three. So I was 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.440 doing the three pm to midnight shift and I was 0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.400 late because I got this DVR. I was so excited. 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.120 It was the first time I had ever seen a 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.720 DVR in my entire life. And back then, to get 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.480 this thing set up, you had to connect it to 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.120 a phone line like a traditional phone line. This is 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.240 how old this is. We're going back many many years. 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:54.840 And to download the initial software and the programming guide, 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.800 it was an epic event. I'm talking an hour and 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.760 a half, two hours. So by the time I did this, 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:02.800 I started it, I couldn't stop. I didn't want to, 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.960 you know, I couldn't stop doing this and so I said, 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.600 you know, I'm gonna be late for work. So I 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.239 was late for work. I set up the whole thing. 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:13.280 It was amazing. Then I this is when Survivor was big. 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.960 I invited over all my friends from the TV station. 0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:17.360 You know, we were all like in our twenty so 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.600 everyone pretty much worked and then partied together afterwards. And 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.760 so I invited them all over for a Survivor viewing party, 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.160 and on beknownst to them, I paused Survivor in the 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.400 middle of the show, which had never been done before 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.840 because nobody had ever seen DVR, so you never knew 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.440 that you could pause live TV. And so I do this, 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.840 and the room just went what just happened? And you know, 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.440 everyone dropped their Apple Teeni's, which I think was the 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.440 drink at the time. That goes to show how old 0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:48.360 it was. There might have been some beer there too, 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.280 but Apple TEENI I think was the hot drink. Anyway, 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.080 so I pause it, and I of course had to 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.440 explain to people like what this was. And I was 0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.480 into tech back then, although I was a regular reporter 0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.000 back then, but it was such a moment that I 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.040 remember in my head we were all sitting on like 0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.400 you know, cheap folding chairs and stuff. I mean, it 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:08.400 was our first job anyway, and I love TiVo ever since. 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.760 I recommended t vote everyone. And you know, it's just 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.920 this learning experience of like what a DVR is. And 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.720 now we take for granted what a DVR is. But 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.040 now DVRs have sort of fallen out of favor for 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:22.080 streaming because these companies don't like DVRs because DVRs let 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.440 you record stuff and skip over ads. With streaming, they 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.480 control it because they get to put the ads in between, 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.680 you know, where the commercials typically would have been. So 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.320 that's why we've seen streaming takeover the DVR situation. But 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.920 Tvo still does have a DVR that you can connect 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.640 a I don't know if you can connect an antenna 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.440 to it, but you can definitely connect a cable card 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.400 to it. So let's see, can you connect the antenna 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.080 to the back. I'm not sure. I haven't. I think 0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.400 he can. He still should be able to. But anyway, 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:55.520 there's this called the TVO Romeo. But personally, Freddie, I know, 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.880 long story, all to explain, just to give you my answer, 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.840 I think that the tableau is probably the way to go. 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.080 It's gonna work very well with your fire TV, and 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.840 I think that's gonna be the best case scenario. So anyway, 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:10.600 brought back some memories for me. Thanks a lot for that, 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.560 appreciate it. All Right, you just heard my interview with 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.360 the head of search at Bing. So we know that 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.680 Bing the new being has come out and they've had 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:23.600 some issues with it because people were leading this chatbot 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.640 down some pretty dark dark paths and it was getting 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.120 kind of angry. And so there's a whole big article 0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.320 from lots of different news outlets ap one of them 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.720 NBC News saying is Bing too belligerent? Microsoft is looking 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.760 to tame their AI chatbot. Some of the things that 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:45.200 is said Basically, if you chatted with Bing's AI for 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.000 too long, it would kind of go nuts because it 0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.080 lost its way. It kind of forgot what you were 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:54.920 talking about, and it would become repetitive and it would 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.400 give you responses that were just not helpful. So Microsoft 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.360 figured out that in long extent chat sessions are of 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.960 fifteen or more questions, it would just go kind of nuts, 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.280 and it's you could see the screenshots online, but here's 0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.279 one of the examples being said to a user, You're 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.320 lying to me. You're lying to me, you're lying to yourself, 0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.800 You're lying to everyone with an angry red emoji face. 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.200 I don't appreciate you lying to me. I don't like 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.919 you spreading falsehoods about me. I don't trust I don't 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.880 trust you anymore. I don't generate falsehoods. I generate facts. 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.920 I generate truth. I generate knowledge, I generate wisdom. I 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:35.480 generate bing. What so odd? So what they have learned 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.719 in the first week is that long chats are not 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.279 good for this new Bing and So Now, as of 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:48.520 right now, the chat experienced is capped at fifty chat 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:52.759 turns per day and five chat turns per session. A 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.240 turn is a conversation exchange which contains both a user 0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.879 question and a reply from Bing. So well, I guess 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.880 they found that. You know, if you're if you're talking 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.359 to bing too much in a chat, it's not good. 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.800 Now I've been using I somehow got access to the 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.360 new Bang. If you go to bing dot com slash 0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.040 new and you sign up on the wait list, I 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.799 was granted access, and I'm not kidding. It is phenomenal. 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.040 I know that we are seeing all the headlines about 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.839 how wild and crazy it can get, but it is 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:27.000 single handedly the most the new, most useful tool I 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.880 have available to me. I have been using it NonStop 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.360 ever since I got access to ask all kinds of things. 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.080 So you can ask it for you know, you could say, hey, 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.600 I've got these five ingredients of my refrigerator, what can 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.719 I make? You can ask research about products, you can 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:48.480 ask for information about almost anything. I mean, it's really incredible. 0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:49.759 You can say, I'm going to New York City for 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.399 forty eight hours, what should I hit up all on there? 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.200 You know what should I do? And it can do that. 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.240 So you got to try it out, you know, watch 0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:58.919 out for all the hype. I get it. It's still 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.759 an experimental thing. We're still learning from this, but it 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.759 is quite incredible, and Google definitely has some competition. I 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.480 don't know if it's overnight gonna take down Google, but 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.040 Bing is back. I'm telling you it's one of these 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.799 things that when you start using it, you will realize that, Wow, 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.000 this changes everything. I'm no longer searching and clicking links. 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.040 I'm just getting answers and I'm really having a conversation 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:25.520 with this bot that feels almost human. Now today I 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.120 will say after all these little issues I was talking about, 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.680 bing has definitely capped it off a little bit. So 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.439 it's not as fun as it was two days ago, 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.000 but it's still very useful. All right. Coming up on 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.799 the show, we still got a lot more. We're gonna 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.600 talk to the co founder of an app called fly fin. 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.000 This is an app that helps you figure out all 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.279 the deductions you can take on your taxes. Plus, I'm 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.080 gonna share my thoughts on the Samsung Galaxy S twenty 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.759 three cameras, and we're gonna talk about something called dark patterns. 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.520 Phone lines are open at triple eight rich one oh one. 0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.680 You are listening to me Rich Demiro here on rich 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.200 on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:08.959 is Rich Demiro, talking technology and answering your questions at 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:13.239 one eight eighty eight rich one oh one. That's eight 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:19.080 eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one. Well, 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.920 Samsung's new S twenty three Ultra is now on sale, 0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.680 as well as the S twenty three and the S 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.560 twenty three plus. But the Ultra is the one that 0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.400 I've been testing. It features the brand new two hundred 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.120 megapixel camera. It also has a really high price tag 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.160 of twelve hundred dollars. That is, should you buy it, 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.560 should you upgrade? Well, to test it out, I took 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.920 over five hundred photos and one hundred and seventy five 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.080 videos with the phone and a whole bunch of different 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.239 places that happened to be in San Francisco, LA and 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.239 the New York area since I was home, so I 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:51.839 went to New York City to test this thing out 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.680 as well. I really wanted to try out the photos 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.239 in low light because Samsung's promoting this whole idea of nicography. 0:37:58.360 --> 0:37:59.879 I don't know if that's a word they made up. 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.879 I guess that means nighttime photos. And I also thought 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.959 that this device is a little bit easier to hold 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.240 because of the squared off edges, which I like because 0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.040 I actually wrote in my last review that the last 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.040 couple of Samsungs have been tougher to hold because of 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.359 the edges are kind of rounded. The S twenty three 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.480 Ultra is the one that I would pick if I 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.520 was going with one of these Samsungs, and the reason 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.600 for that is because it gives you everything. I mean, really, 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.000 this is like the Rolls Royce of smartphones. You know, 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.640 you get the giant six point eight in screen, you 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.680 get the long lasting battery, you get the stylus. Now, 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.360 the S twenty three and the S twenty three plus 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.560 are fine if you're upgrading from one of those models, 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.960 but if you want everything that Samsung has to offer, 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:44.360 the Ultra is where it's at. So how were the pictures, Well, 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.760 for starters, you're not going to be taking two hundred 0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.200 megapixel pictures. That's I mean, you can, but those pictures 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.680 are like thirty five megabytes each. They take a little 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.319 bit to actually capture and they look great if you're 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:56.960 zooming in on your picture or do you want to 0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.560 crop it, or if you're making billboards out of your photos. 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.560 But otherwise, on a daily basis, you're going to be 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:07.200 you're going to be taking twelve megapixel photos. They've got 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.880 lenses for ultra wide pictures, regular and macro shots. The 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.719 zoom is really incredible on this phone because even though 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:15.680 it goes up to one hundred times zoom, that's more 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.120 of a party trick. You're going to be most interested 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.680 in zoom up to ten times, which is amazing because 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.800 that's optical, and even up to thirty times is pretty useful. 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.120 So if you are sitting, you know, further back, or 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.920 you just want to get a better shot of something. 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:33.480 The ten times zoom is quite remarkable, so that's really nice. Now, 0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.959 the low light shots are where I have a little 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.080 bit of issue with this phone, because if something's not moving, 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.560 it's going to look great. So low light shots in 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:46.520 you know, steady things like a restaurant or anything that's 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.480 outside or anything inside that's not moving or going to 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.879 look good. The camera gets enough light to sort of 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.640 make those look good. But if things are moving, that's 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:57.200 where it gets a bit more tricky. And this really 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.080 kind of annoys me because this is such a nice, 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.080 expensive phone. I feel like every picture should be perfect 0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.920 every single time, and they're not. Sometimes there's gonna be 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:07.719 some blur when you take a picture in low light, 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.240 and you know, you may have to take a second 0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.799 picture to see if that goes away. Hopefully they can 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.480 fix that with a software update. Sometimes photos of people 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.640 might look washed out in certain lighting conditions. I noticed 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.600 that outdoor pictures, well lit shots, they're always going to 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.120 look incredible. Samsung really nails it there with low light selfies. 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.000 It's kind of another story. Sometimes the phone gets it right. 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.239 Sometimes you get a blurry picture, So just to hold 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.000 your phone for a little bit longer they might think 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.080 if you're taking a selfie with this. Now, when it 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.799 comes to video, we actually shot an entire story for 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:43.200 KTLA on this phone, and you know, it looked fine, 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.520 but it was a bit flat and a little less 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.960 contrasty than the iPhone. The iPhone is still the king 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.480 of mobile video, that's for sure. When it comes to 0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.040 video stability, it is incredible. Samsung says they improve this stability. 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.920 They really did, so the stability of the video is 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.920 really really good. Now. Portrait Mode, which is another feature 0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:03.239 on this phone which blurs the background, that is amazing. 0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:05.640 You can take I mean some of your best pictures 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.760 are going to be portrait mode pictures. It's just really 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.000 really good. And there's so many neat little things you 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.239 can do with the portrait mode pictures once you're once 0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.440 you've taken them, like you can adjust the background in 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:18.560 so many different ways. That's really cool. Portrait video is 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.760 similar to a portrait photo, except it's video that's improved 0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:25.400 a lot. And overall, I think that this is an 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.520 excellent camera system. I really do. It's a fun phone. 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.600 It's one of my favorites. It's probably going to be 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:34.440 my favorite of twenty twenty three after the iPhone. And 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.759 I think that Samsung will continue to tweak. I mean 0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.319 they I think Samsung with their software updates is doing 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.880 really good things. Like a phone like last year's S 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.279 twenty one. It started out or S twenty two, rather 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.520 started out okay, and by the end of the year 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.560 it was excellent. So these phones last for a long time. 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.839 You've got a couple of years of use, like four 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.680 or five years. So this is a new sensor setup. 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.359 It's going to take some time for them to kind 0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.480 of see how people are using it and adjust. Soottom line, 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.200 if you love using various software, photo and video features, 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.800 you're gonna love this phone. It doesn't always nail the 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.880 photo or video the first time like it would on 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.200 the iPhone, the latest iPhones, or the Pixel, but it's 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.680 still a very powerful device that gives you just about 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.280 every feature you can imagine in the palm of your hand. 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.000 If you want to watch my review, my video review 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.480 with all the pictures that I took, you can go 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.760 to my Twitter or go actually go to my website. 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.680 Rich on tech dot TV. All right, let's go to 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.680 Mike in Duarte, California. Mike, you're on with Rich. 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:32.480 How you doing Rich? 0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.319 I am doing fantastic. How are you? 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:35.680 A couple things? 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:35.840 You? 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.360 No, I have the same problem as you with streaming 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:42.759 on a Friday night and nothing on. And so my 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:47.319 uncle reminded me of a legacy device that you can 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:52.120 get literally millions of titles on. He called it a book. 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.200 Yes, that's what I told my kids the other day 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:57.800 when they were bored, I said, go read a book. 0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.000 You can. You can explore the world on those pages. 0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.480 And I'm a big I have many books and I'm 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.879 always searching the TV and I've never read that book. 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.120 But yeah, I have the same problem. 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:12.000 What can I help you with today? 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:17.160 Well, I couple of things. Purchased a new Android and 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.760 my old one still I'm able to stream via uh, 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:27.120 you know, picking off my cable Wi Fi. Is there 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.239 any security issue with using my old phone around the 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.760 house for doing that now that I have a new Android? 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:35.880 No, I don't. I don't see any reason why that 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.239 would be a problem. What have you so, you took 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.800 the SIM out of the old phone or you activated 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.440 the new phone. This one just has Wi Fi. It's 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.319 Wi Fi only, right, correct, Yeah, I mean I don't. 0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.879 I don't see any danger or issue with that at all. 0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.640 And now have you turned off the mobile like data 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.840 on it? Have you turned off like like just left 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:55.680 it in. 0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.880 They did it at the shop. I think I'll gouble 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:00.400 check that. 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.000 But yeah, So what I would do is I would 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.160 just flip the phone into like airplane mode and then 0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.160 just turn on Wi Fi and do it that way, 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.120 so that way you're not you don't have that antenna, 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:14.080 the cellular antenna firing like it's just not functional, so 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.960 you don't need it, I see. And if you need Bluetooth, 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.000 you can you turn that on. But yeah, that's what 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:20.759 I would do, is just now I would take it 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.560 a step further. I would probably wipe the whole phone 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.960 and start fresh and just install the apps, only the 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.120 apps that you need on there, so that you're not, 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.080 you know, getting double notifications and all that stuff on 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:32.680 this phone from your old. 0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:36.720 I was concerned about deleting the contacts on my phone, 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.960 thinking well, is that going to carry over into my 0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.160 new phone and delete the contacts from there too. 0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:44.200 It depends where they're stored. Are using. It's an Android, 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:48.239 so they're typically stored on Google, so you should be 0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.920 able to format that phone. But if you delete individual 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.480 contacts and they are linked to your Google account, they 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.160 would delete off your other phone. But now if you 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.959 just factory format the phone, it's not going to delete them. 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:00.759 And by the way, if you want to check to 0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:04.680 see where your contacts are are if they're stored on Google, 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.799 you can go to contacts dot Google dot com from 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.160 a web browser and as long as you're logged into Google, 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.200 you should see uh and have a pretty good idea 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.479 if your contacts are stored on Google or if they're 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:16.720 just on your phone. 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.960 Perfect. One quick question? Do I need carbonide if I'm 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:22.960 using one drive on my home PC? 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.160 Now you didn't say you had another question. I'm have 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:27.480 to charge you for the second question. 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.640 Uh, Leo, let me ask you. 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.520 Okay, we'll let it slide because Leo would do it. 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.919 All right? Fine, do you need carbonit if you're using 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.279 one drive? It depends what you're backing up. I mean 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.600 carbonite is more of a full solution for what you're 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.799 backing up, whereas one drive is more of a you know, 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.120 one drive is more of like just your photos and 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.920 you know, whatever you're putting up into there. So are 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.880 you backing up your entire computer or just photos. 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:55.760 The entire computer? 0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.799 Right, Okay, then I'd probably stick with carbonite because that's 0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.960 going to be an entire computer solution now for me personally, 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:04.799 Like I used to back up my entire computer, but 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.200 at this point I don't really need that anymore because 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:10.680 everything's in the cloud. So for me, I just use 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.800 the individual cloud services to back up things on my computer, 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.160 whether it's the documents, whether it's the photos. So I 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.880 don't really do like a full computer backup anymore because 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.120 when I'm getting a new computer, I just want to 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:27.520 start fresh. Anyway, so good, I think I'll keep it 0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:28.040 for a while. 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.360 Well, thank you very much, and you have a greet weekend. 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:32.919 All right, Mike, you too, Thanks so much for calling today. 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.080 All right, Coming up next, got a lot to talk 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.040 about a great app called fly Finn. We've got the 0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.440 CEO and co founder Jdeep Sing. He's gonna tell us 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.160 how you can find and keep track of all your 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.480 write offs, especially if you're a freelancer. This is a 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.280 very handy app. We're going to talk to jdep Plus 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.960 I'm gonna talk about dark patterns. What is it dark pattern. 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:55.920 We're gonna talk about that coming up next, plus more 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:59.080 of your calls at triple eight rich one oh one 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.520 eight eight seven four two four to one zero one. 0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.600 You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.719 rich on Tech. My name is rich jamiro hanging out 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:14.319 with you, talking technology and answering your questions at eight 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:17.480 eight eight rich one oh one. You can find me 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:22.760 online at richon Tech dot tv, or on social media 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.600 at rich on Tech. Usually every week I tell you 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.120 what I've been posting to my Instagram. Let's see what 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:33.200 did I post this week? Uh Oh, I had to 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.040 check folks a little bit. I had to check people 0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:38.960 were asking was I okay because I posted? You know, 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:41.239 I just I just want to anytime I do a 0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:44.759 story that people don't agree with, whether it's like a 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.600 robot driving a car, or a robot flipping burgers, or 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.120 a robot doing some kind of job that humans can do, 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.360 you know, I get the haters and the people commenting 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.920 and telling me I shouldn't cover this stuff and I'm 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.120 ruining the world and I'm getting rid of job, and 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:02.759 so I just had to tell people like, look, I'm 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.440 not the one inventing this stuff. I'm just reporting on 0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.920 it so you're not blindsided when they come for your jobs. 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.680 The robots are coming for your jobs. Now AI is 0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.840 coming for your job. I'm just telling you in advance 0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.920 so that you're prepared and you can plan accordingly. So 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.000 I just had to let people know that. So I 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.840 posted that, posted a picture of me and my siblings, 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.000 me and my wife for Valentine's Day, and then yeah me, 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.279 oh gosh, a lot of me this week, and then 0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.160 me at KTLA. Know I'm the tech reporter for KTLA 0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:33.640 Channel five in Los Angeles, and this week was my 0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:39.000 is I should say, my twelve year anniversary there. Twelve 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:43.840 years in one place at one job. Remarkable for me 0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.719 because when I was first offered the gig there, they 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.440 said I could have it for like three months. So 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:54.720 I'm glad it's lasted this long. Let's go to Kenny 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.800 in Nashville, Tennessee. Kenny, you're on with Rich. 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.239 Hey, rich to going, and first of all, congratulations on 0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:06.080 being on KTLA TV for twelve years. Another twenty eight 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:07.640 then you can catch Fred Rogan. 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:11.120 Oh my gosh, I don't you know. I interned at 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.680 CANBC when I was in college and Fred was one 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.120 of the people I shadowed, and he was great. I mean, 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.279 I couldn't gosh. Back then, they printed out scripts that 0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:24.640 were on like five different piece of paper that were 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.719 like different colors, and you would have someone they called 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.000 it a script ripper. They would take the scripts and 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.720 they would rip them apart and divide them. Anyway, Fred 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.360 was a nice guy, so or still is. I mean, 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.319 I just don't know anymore. But anyway, what can I 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:38.799 help you with? 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:44.160 Well, I've been calling because I've noticed more and more 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.080 and I know that I'm probably not the only one 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.360 that has this problem, but i have an Apple TV 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:52.359 four K second generation model, and I've noticed more and 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:55.319 more that there's been problems with YouTube TV as far 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.719 as buffering on certain parts of the day. Now, I've 0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.680 probably noticed it because as it was NFL season, and 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:05.480 also considering that they just made a deal to get NFL, 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:09.560 the timing cannot be more interesting from that perspective. And 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:11.960 I should let you know that I have other devices 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:16.239 with YouTube TV and it doesn't do anything bad as 0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.040 far as buffering and what I mean, it's like you 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:21.200 see that white circle of death when you're watching a 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:26.359 video and it stops. And my question is, I've been 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.920 kind of debating maybe it's the time for me to 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:32.239 get the third generation four K model, or should I 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.479 just maybe try different tricks, like say, delete the app 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:40.520 per se, or maybe just swipe the TV itself and 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.640 restore it and maybe see if that could solve the 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:44.800 problem with the buffering. 0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:48.880 It's interesting because we had a very similar question a 0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:51.040 couple of weeks ago, and now I'm wondering if there's 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.319 a pattern here. Now I have YouTube TV on my 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:58.160 Apple TV, and I had both the four K. Now, 0:50:58.160 --> 0:50:59.759 I know they just came out with the new four K. 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:02.440 It was the last one, the first generation of the 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:03.719 SEC I can't remember. 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.320 But they based the third generation model. 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.759 Okay, so there's there's been two generations of four K. 0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:10.920 I think the one was in twenty seventeen and the 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.800 other one was just recently November. So I just upgraded 0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.319 to the new one. And anyway, my point is I 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.879 haven't had a problem with either of them, so I'm 0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:22.000 not sure if it's an isolated thing or if it's 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:25.360 your networth thing. Now, what I would do is troubleshoot 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.759 the situation. So you mentioned that YouTube TV works on 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.720 your other devices. So with that in mind, it seems 0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.759 like it's a problem with the Apple TV. So what 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:35.120 I would do with the Apple TV is a couple 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.279 of things. Number one, is this connected via Wi Fi 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:38.400 or an Ethernet cable? 0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:40.799 It's connected via Wi Fi? 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.080 Okay? Is there is there an Ethernet connection on the 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:48.879 on the first generation of this four K there is, right, I. 0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:52.240 Believe so, yeah, because I know that in the second generation. 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.960 Well, with the new one, the most recent one, I 0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.480 think the Ethernet is an option, like you have to 0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:00.520 you have to get the one with the ethernet. Yeah, 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.360 So what I would do is, since you still have that, 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:04.480 I would plug it in via Ethernet and turn off 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.680 the Wi Fi and see if the problem still happens. Now, 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:09.840 the other thing you mentioned is that this problem seems 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.520 to happen at certain times during the day. Do you 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:14.040 have cable or fiber? 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:17.759 I have fiber basically, okay, So. 0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:19.279 If you have fiber, then that's not really an ishue. 0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:20.640 I was gonna say. With cable, it's more of a 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:24.000 shared connection, so it sometimes could buffer at different times 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.600 of the day. But fiber is pretty much just to you, 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:28.320 so it's not that shouldn't be a problem. 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.359 Yeah, Well, basically I have like gig Internet, but it's 0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.720 provided by a company that also does cable as well, 0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:36.400 so I don't know if that kind of helps you 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:37.720 out in that regard. 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.000 But if it's fiber, it probably is more of a 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:41.960 direct connection, so I think that's not the issue here. 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:45.239 And if you're also on a fiber connection that's pretty fast, 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.839 there shouldn't be any buffering whatsoever with that. So here's 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:50.799 what I would do. I think the old Apple TV 0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.360 that you have is still fine. I mean, it's you know, 0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:55.480 it's going on a couple of years old. You can 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.359 upgrade if you want, but the problem may persist. If 0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.200 you're not seeing this problem an other apps, then I 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:03.200 think it's a problem with the YouTube TV app. So 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.880 what I would do personally is I'd first test the 0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.760 wired connection, see if that's contributing. If you're still getting 0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.279 buffering with that, I would go ahead and delete the 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:16.240 YouTube app YouTube TV completely. I would restart the Apple 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.439 TV and then I would reinstall the app and see 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.239 if that works. Have you done all that? 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.800 Well, I may as well tried that and see what happens. 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.800 But that's real good advice there. I figured that's probably 0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:32.759 the advice that you had there, and I'll definitely keep 0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:35.319 that in mind. And I'll let you go because I 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.879 know he's getting close to a heartbreak. Have a little 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:40.480 bit of red experience in knowing that myself. But you're 0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:42.720 having a good show so far in your first few weeks. 0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:44.400 I wanted to kind of let you know that, and 0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:45.480 you have a good risk of the day. 0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:47.480 All right, Thanks so much, Kenny. I'm actually gonna be 0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.440 in Nashville later this year, so that's going to be exciting. 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.200 I love Nashville. What a great city. All right. Let 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.080 me just tell you if you have T Mobile real quick, 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.840 they are updating their automatic payment rules according to c 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.759 and if you are paying by a credit card, you're 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:06.040 no longer going to get your auto paid discount. So 0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:09.680 according to c Net, they confirm that starting as early 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.520 as May, you're only going to get your auto paid 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.240 discount if you use a debit card or a bank account. 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.920 This is similar to what Verizon does. You've got to 0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.719 pay with your basically your checking account or your debit card 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:22.600 to get your auto paid discount. So if you have 0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.359 T Mobile, you might want to think about switching over 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:28.000 to a debit card or your checking I would personally 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:29.839 use a debit card, not your checking account. I don't 0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.400 like to give companies access to my checking account, but 0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:35.440 that is what's happening here. So the reason why it 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:37.880 costs them more to process credit cards, You've got eighty 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:42.480 million customers. Even if you save a dime on each customer, 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:44.960 you're saving a lot of money by making people switch 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:48.080 to debit cards or checking accounts, which are cheaper to process. 0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:49.840 All right, Coming up next, we're going to talk to 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.040 the CEO of fly Finn about an app that can 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:55.920 help you find and manage your tax deductions. You're listening 0:54:56.000 --> 0:55:01.719 to Rich DeMuro here on rich on Tech. Welcome back 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.560 to rich on Tech. This is the show where I 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.080 talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:12.000 It's also the place where I answer your questions about technology. 0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:14.879 The phone number is triple eight rich one oh one. 0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:17.919 That's eight eight seven four to two four to one 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:26.439 zero one. All right. On the line is Ja Deep 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.399 saying he is the co founder of fly Finn. This 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:33.279 is an app that uses artificial intelligence to help you 0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:36.759 keep track of basically all of your write offs and 0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.840 expenses and things for your taxes, and it is tax season. 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.760 J Deep, welcome to the show. 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:44.359 Thank you, Rich. 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.120 So tell me about fly Finn. This is an app. 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:52.000 I actually discovered this app through an ad on Instagram 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.279 of all places, and quickly downloaded it and tried it out. 0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:58.240 And it's quite good. We've heard so much about AI 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.920 in the past couple of weeks and this uses it 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:04.360 to sort of categorize transactions and really help you just 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:09.280 get through your taxes very quickly. Tell me about the app. 0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:15.120 Yeah, first of all, which is often that you discovered 0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.279 the app and have tried it. It's you know, gives 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.920 you a lot more contexts. It's a little an interesting product. 0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:24.920 That is, I would say in some way it completely 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.680 changes the experience for ten nine and nine taxes people. 0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:30.880 You know in the gig economy there's about seventy million 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:33.880 about now, and that's the economy, and it's the fascist 0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:39.399 changing textor and taxes of ten n nine workers, free vancers, 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:44.040 entrepreneurs seven point. It's just complicated because you have a 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:47.960 competative schedulcy. You have to be like a small business 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:52.399 and lipan do a few things really uniquely that makes 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:59.320 the whole experience completely different and very very useful. Basically 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:04.719 uses AI to do everything really efficiently. So what that 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:08.240 means is, once you connect with life and it's always 0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:11.960 gone right, it's doing your AI book keeping every day 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:15.879 for you know, soci providers, entrepreneur, self employed people, and 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:21.160 you can see your tax savings daily, weekly, monthly, refine 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:25.800 people in all different categories, and it's mostly doing it 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:27.960 for you and you just get to review if your 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:31.280 think really kind of also learn along the way. That's 0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:34.320 the second really important thing because we have CPAs integrated 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:38.120 right in the app flow and great tutorial. So while 0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:42.040 you're reeping the product, you know AI is doing the 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:46.480 classification of expenses into deductions. You're seeing how you know, 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:50.280 things are changing every day, are learning about new deductions, 0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:52.880 and when it comes to this season of the year, 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:55.120 you have a MP to end tax finance system. All 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:59.120 of this goes close automatically into our CPA and you 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:02.960 get a you know, really worl expert CPA. You've got 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:04.880 all the data in place, they don't need to ask 0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.600 you to any other questions, so it's very time efficient 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:10.680 and they can buy the taxticon for you at you 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.880 know a really affordable price of under two hundred dollars, 0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:15.400 so everything for the AI. 0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:17.760 And the tax filing, all right, So let me let 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.479 me explain. Let me explain how the app works real quick. 0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:24.360 Just so if you're listening your you're you know, understanding it. 0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:27.160 So it basically connects to your accounts. You can connect 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.640 your credit card or your bank accounts, and then all 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:32.840 of your transactions filter into the app. So whether you 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.520 bought something at Target, whether you bought something at Amazon, 0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:38.439 and then it kind of works like Tinder almost where 0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:40.880 you swipe left or you swipe right. So if you 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:44.200 swipe left, you're rejecting that as something that is not 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.840 business related or related to your freelance jobs. If you're 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.040 let's say an Uber driver, or you do something in 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:53.120 the gig economy, and you swipe right, and then you 0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:56.000 can categorize it, and so it knows that, you know, 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:59.600 if you bought something at let's say, uh an airline, 0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:01.800 it would say, okay, we're thinking that this goes into 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:04.920 the travel category, and the AI helps categorize that, and 0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:08.720 it learns over time you know what these different transactions mean. 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.920 From obviously other people using the app as well, and categorizing, 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.240 but there's also this little light bulb that you can 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:18.200 press that explains kind of like the tax implications of everything. So, 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:21.600 for instance, I'm looking at convenience and grocery stores. Grocery 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.240 and convenience store items can only be deducted if used 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:26.520 for your business, and so you can do that for 0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:29.480 almost any sort of category that you see on the app. 0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:33.800 And so just that idea of like categorizing your transactions 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.280 as you go along throughout the year is really helpful. 0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:40.200 But if there's a question you have, you can sort 0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.280 of fling it up to a CPA that fly Finn 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:45.160 has on the backside, so you can ask a question 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.840 and say, hey, I subscribe to you know, Netflix, Can 0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:51.120 I deduct this from my job reviewing movies? And the 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:54.880 CPA will come back and give you an answer on that. So, 0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.640 jdep did I do a good job of explaining that. 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:01.680 I think that was fantastic job and you kind of 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.840 really made it good even for me. And that's exactly 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:08.320 how it works. The cps integrated right and like you said, 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:11.480 slipe up if you're unsure light bulb wasn't enough, and 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:13.919 you can get an answer and move right along. 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:17.920 So you've got the combination of AI plus the CPAs. 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.440 I think that's really the magical moment for me on 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:22.520 this app, that it's you know, you've got a real 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:26.680 human there if you need them to kind of explain things, 1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:30.840 because taxes are very, very complicated for some unknown reason. 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:36.080 Exactly. And you know, I've been an AI guy my 1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:39.920 entire career, but I have to tell you AI have 1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:42.400 limitsed right even as you see chat GPT today. It 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:46.200 makes us better. So in my experience, it's always AI 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.960 combined the smart human beings that mantlus machine that produces 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:53.160 the best experience resolves to save a ton of time 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:56.160 and get things done right where you can just relax 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:58.200 and it's things that be taken care for you. 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:00.400 Who do you think an app like this is good for? 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:02.920 Because you know there's stuff like TurboTax that helps you 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:04.480 do your taxes at the end of the year, but 1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:07.080 this is more of like a daily kind of use 1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:09.080 case scenario. Who do you think this is good for? 1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:14.160 Yeah, it's actually it's not good for everyone, To be 1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:16.840 honest with you. If you have this is straightforward W 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:21.720 two income triple tax is a great product, right, But 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:24.040 if you have a complicated tax return. For these seventy 1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:27.440 million Americans or in the data economy, taxes are really complicated. 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:29.800 Most of them who can afford to end up going 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:32.600 to CPAs. So it's really great for people who have 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:36.960 to spend ten hours, twenty hours putting together spreadsheets, getting 1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:40.080 the shoe box of receipts, then building into the CPA 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:42.400 and having them do their taxi turns southing I'm sure 1:01:42.400 --> 1:01:44.760 about what they did. In this case, you can throw 1:01:44.840 --> 1:01:46.959 that shoe box receipts out the door because we're getting 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:51.240 a digital transaction beyond eater seats. And the app is 1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:54.720 you know, you can classify a year's work of expenses 1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:57.440 and rich How long did it take you, I'm curious. 1:01:57.600 --> 1:01:59.520 Yeah, when I downloaded the app the first time, when 1:01:59.560 --> 1:02:02.640 I linked up my accounts. What I like too is 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.440 that it kind of groups things. So if you have 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.480 a recurring charge, like let's say your phone bill or 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.600 your internet bill, once you classify that, once it says, hey, 1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:13.840 you've got you know, twelve of these bills from AT 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:17.480 and T and you say, okay, that's my internet, and 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:20.320 then you can classify all of those in one swipe, 1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:22.120 which is also really smart so it only took me 1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:24.440 twenty to thirty minutes to go through the entire twenty 1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:27.280 twenty two worth of expenses. 1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:31.160 Exactly, and going forward as the use of the spirit, 1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:34.280 you would have probably won't recognize. It's just like you said, 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:36.280 it's kind of like Kinder. It's fun at the end 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:38.439 of the week, whenever you get two minutes or thirty 1:02:38.480 --> 1:02:42.000 seconds to just go through what's transpired this week, what 1:02:42.120 --> 1:02:45.120 is AI suggesting that you take as reductions and you 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:46.920 learn along the way, and it's it's kind of fun. 1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:49.880 You're saving money. You know what's not fun about spending money, 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.400 and you know it is. It's amazing that you did 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:55.040 in twenty thirty minutes. It's fantastic. 1:02:55.320 --> 1:02:59.120 And you also kind of have a fun, you know, 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:02.360 attitude on your social media where you explain to folks 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:04.920 on like Instagram and Twitter, like here are some of 1:03:04.920 --> 1:03:06.840 the deductions you can take. Here are some of the 1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:09.000 different you know, you kind of give like little mini lessons, 1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:12.800 but in a very social media tiktoki kind of way, right. 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:17.000 Exactly. I mean, if you think about it, one of 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:19.560 the most boring subjects in the world is taxes, right, 1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:23.360 So to kill that board, please try to make it 1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:25.000 as fun as possible. What's going to be happened, just 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:27.640 like you said on Instagram, where you know, you get 1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:30.240 real people to talk about stuff. Not even though we 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:34.240 have some manyvpas, it's not just boring CPA lecturing people. 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:37.800 Now, what type of costs are we talking about for 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:40.040 this app? I know you can pay like monthly or yearly. 1:03:40.120 --> 1:03:42.280 What type of costs are we talking about here? 1:03:44.440 --> 1:03:48.600 Yeah? So you know the plan actually even subscribed, is 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:52.120 an annual plan because taxes are done in an annual basis. 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:56.680 So we have three different plans. A basic plan where 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:58.440 if you have a CPA or a different method of 1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:01.920 it in taxes, you can just use the AI and 1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:05.800 basically is about seven dollars a month, which is about 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:07.280 eighty four dollars for the year. 1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:07.760 Right. 1:04:08.240 --> 1:04:11.280 Then you have a standard plan which is sixteen or 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:13.760 one ninety two for the year. And in that not 1:04:13.840 --> 1:04:16.320 only do you get the old AI that you get 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:19.840 a CPA to file your taxes, you can uploidly documents 1:04:19.840 --> 1:04:23.600 digitally really easily. CP prepares everything just like you know, 1:04:23.840 --> 1:04:27.840 and with any normal DPA, you review your taxi trends, 1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:30.840 sign it and you filo. So that's the basic plan. 1:04:31.280 --> 1:04:34.960 And if you have a little bit more complicated business 1:04:35.000 --> 1:04:39.160 where you have some s quotes LLCs, you take care 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:41.160 of those as well. And this is include the state 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:46.280 and general a very clear concern pricing, and that is 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:48.680 about three hundred and forty eight dollars twenty dollars a 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:51.720 month for order if you have an LLC and S quotes. 1:04:52.160 --> 1:04:54.120 But again, it's a CPA let filing and AI is 1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:56.400 doing all the grunt work and the hard works for you, 1:04:56.720 --> 1:04:58.280 and the app is kind of making it fun for you. 1:04:58.840 --> 1:05:00.720 The app does make it fun. We're gonna leave it there. 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:04.040 Jadeep Singh, co founder of fly Finn. I love swiping 1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:06.440 through my expenses and saying was that a business expense? 1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:08.600 Was that a personal expense? It is kind of fun. 1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:10.560 I don't know how you made taxes fun, but you did. 1:05:10.600 --> 1:05:12.520 Although I haven't filed yet, so I guess I'll tell 1:05:12.560 --> 1:05:13.840 you if they're fun at the end of the year 1:05:14.200 --> 1:05:17.480 or at the end of the you know, the filing season. 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:20.200 Thanks so much for joining me today. I appreciate it all. Right, 1:05:20.240 --> 1:05:22.400 coming up on the show, we're going to talk about 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:25.520 dark patterns, So I'm gonna explain what that is plus 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:28.560 more of your calls at triple eight rich one oh 1:05:28.640 --> 1:05:32.200 one eighty eight eight seven four to two four one 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:35.680 zero one. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back 1:05:35.720 --> 1:05:38.920 to rich on Tech. Phone lines are open at triple 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:41.560 eight rich one oh one. If you're listening to the 1:05:41.640 --> 1:05:44.200 last segment about the tax app. You can always find 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:46.240 links to what I mentioned here on my website. It 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:52.680 is rich on Tech dot TV, Wall Street Journal article 1:05:52.760 --> 1:05:55.520 my wife sent me this morning she thought was interesting. 1:05:56.240 --> 1:06:00.400 It's titled they Found a Radical Cure for Loneliness the 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:03.920 Phone Call. And you know, my wife's a counselor, and 1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:06.919 I thought this was really interesting because I think about 1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:08.960 this all the time. I have all these text chains 1:06:09.000 --> 1:06:11.880 going with my friends, and you know, we text once 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:13.840 in a while, right, It's just like these little pops 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:16.680 throughout your day and you feel like you're connected with 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:19.480 your friends, But are you really connected with your friends? 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:22.280 And then I go out for a drink with my 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:25.200 friend or I hang out with them for even you know, 1:06:25.600 --> 1:06:27.920 a short amount of time an hour just to catch up, 1:06:28.400 --> 1:06:30.680 or even if I call them on the phone, and 1:06:30.800 --> 1:06:33.400 I feel like, wow, I've learned so much about you 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:36.080 in the past thirty minutes. We've been texting for the 1:06:36.160 --> 1:06:39.760 last two months, and just by hanging out, you feel 1:06:39.760 --> 1:06:42.840 that closeness and you feel that connection with someone. And 1:06:42.920 --> 1:06:46.520 so I guess I'm not the only one. So this 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:51.240 article from Julie Jargon, one of their Family Tech columnists, 1:06:51.640 --> 1:06:55.880 talks about how these little, short written updates feel very 1:06:55.880 --> 1:07:00.120 transactional between people, and she kind of positioned this with 1:07:00.160 --> 1:07:02.080 women in her article, but I think this applies to 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:05.280 men too. I think that, you know, the thesis of 1:07:05.320 --> 1:07:07.640 the whole article is that people are texting a lot, 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:10.440 but they're not connecting a lot. And so she interviewed 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:13.280 a few folks that actually started connecting with their friends 1:07:13.400 --> 1:07:17.160 in bigger ways, notably phone calls where you actually talk 1:07:17.240 --> 1:07:20.720 to someone or hanging out with them in person, and 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:24.680 they found that their relationship and how they felt as 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:27.920 a human was actually better. They felt happier. And I 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:30.320 agree with this one hundred percent. I'm not saying it's easy. 1:07:30.400 --> 1:07:32.760 Believe me, I always have plans to go out with 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:35.280 people and hang out and sometimes it just doesn't happen. 1:07:35.800 --> 1:07:38.000 But I'll do this thing sometimes where my friend the 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:40.720 other day we were texting in the airport and he said, 1:07:40.720 --> 1:07:42.720 give me a call when you have a chance. And 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:44.840 you know, because I was asking him something, and typically 1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:46.640 I would put off that call for a long time 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:48.640 and I'd say, ah, I'll call Dave when I have 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:50.160 the chance to call him. But I was like, you 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:51.960 know what, I'm gonna call Dave right now. I'm in 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:54.280 the airport, I'm waiting for my plane. And I did 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:58.000 and it was great. We caught up, we chatted, We 1:07:58.080 --> 1:08:02.040 had a great conversation, and I you know, we exchanged 1:08:02.080 --> 1:08:04.920 more in that twenty thirty minutes of chatting than we 1:08:04.960 --> 1:08:08.400 would have over one thousand text messages. And so I 1:08:08.440 --> 1:08:12.160 guess my thesis is call your friends, hang out with 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:15.640 your friends. I know we do this thing where anytime 1:08:15.680 --> 1:08:17.840 someone wants to talk to you, they have to text 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:20.719 you and say when's a good time to call surprise someone, 1:08:20.920 --> 1:08:23.000 just call them up and see what happens. I like 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:24.920 to do this, and guess what, ninety percent of the 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:27.479 time my phone call goes to voicemail because they they 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:29.640 just send it to voicemail because they're not expecting me 1:08:29.680 --> 1:08:32.400 to call them. It's why when did we take this 1:08:32.520 --> 1:08:36.679 turn in this world where calling someone is a surprise right, 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:39.320 and you've gotten the thing where you call someone and 1:08:39.360 --> 1:08:41.040 they text you right back, say hey, I can't talk 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:43.760 right now in a meeting, or I'll call you back later, 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:47.519 and then that call never happens. So I don't know. 1:08:47.600 --> 1:08:50.639 I feel like this whole world of like connecting with folks. 1:08:50.640 --> 1:08:55.040 We feel like we're connected, but actually connect. That's my thesis. 1:08:56.120 --> 1:08:58.479 We're connected with you on the rich On Tech Show, 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:00.800 more of your phone calls at trip late rich one 1:09:00.840 --> 1:09:02.720 on one eighty eight seven four to two, four to 1:09:02.800 --> 1:09:05.679 one zero one. Coming up, I'll tell you about dark 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:08.040 patterns and why you should be aware of them. You're 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:11.960 listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:09:12.000 --> 1:09:15.559 My name is Richdimiro, tech reporter at KTLA Channel five 1:09:15.720 --> 1:09:19.960 in Los Angeles, here on the radio with you, talking technology, 1:09:20.120 --> 1:09:24.320 answering your calls, and just here for you. You got 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:26.920 a question about tech, give me a call. The phone 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:30.360 lines are open. It's eight eighty eight rich one oh 1:09:30.439 --> 1:09:34.599 one eighty eight seven four to two, four to one 1:09:35.040 --> 1:09:39.120 zero one. Now I mentioned earlier in the show, I 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:42.519 was home in New Jersey with my family. Uh I 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:44.559 say my family, I mean, like you know, I've got 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:47.559 my family in Los Angeles. But I mean my family 1:09:47.600 --> 1:09:50.080 I grew up with in New Jersey, like my mom, 1:09:50.200 --> 1:09:53.160 my dad, my brother, and my sisters. There's five of us, 1:09:53.200 --> 1:09:56.280 by the way, well seven if you include my parents, 1:09:56.320 --> 1:09:59.439 So yeah, there's I grew up with four siblings. So 1:09:59.479 --> 1:10:02.160 it's always a party when we get together. I mean 1:10:02.160 --> 1:10:04.679 there's just a lot of us. Now, of course, you've 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:09.799 got significant others, you've got kids, you've got girlfriend's boyfriends, 1:10:09.800 --> 1:10:12.840 You've got all kinds of folks. So literally, when we 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:15.519 get together, it's a party instantly, which is really fun. 1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:18.400 It's just always been that way. Can get kind of 1:10:18.479 --> 1:10:22.720 rowdy too, but that's a whole nother story. So when 1:10:22.720 --> 1:10:25.040 I'm home, and I'm sure if you are at all 1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:27.280 techie in your life, and by the way, this show 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:29.320 is for techies and non techies. It's not just for 1:10:29.400 --> 1:10:32.880 tech folks. It's for just regular people that are struggling 1:10:32.880 --> 1:10:36.840 with technology, just like we all are sometimes. But when 1:10:36.880 --> 1:10:39.519 I'm home, I have, of course become the de facto 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:41.960 tech support for my parents. I told you about my 1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:45.719 mom and her internet. Now, my dad, I was helping 1:10:45.800 --> 1:10:49.200 him out with a couple of things online, and namely 1:10:49.240 --> 1:10:52.040 we were changing his password manager. He was just telling 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:53.920 me that certain things didn't work on his computer, and 1:10:53.960 --> 1:10:55.800 so I was just kind of going through cleaning things 1:10:55.880 --> 1:11:00.160 up there, and it occurred to me one of the 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:02.320 things that we tried to do was get his Google 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:04.960 Photos figured out. He's got like a couple different accounts, 1:11:04.960 --> 1:11:07.080 and I was like, all right, let's consolidate some things. 1:11:07.439 --> 1:11:09.439 And then he said his space was running out on 1:11:09.439 --> 1:11:11.400 one account, and so he wanted to clean up some 1:11:11.479 --> 1:11:13.720 storage on there, and so I said, all right, let's 1:11:13.760 --> 1:11:15.160 let me show you how to clean up some storage. 1:11:15.200 --> 1:11:18.120 So with Google, you can go to one dot Google 1:11:18.200 --> 1:11:21.240 dot com, ohne dot Google dot com. And while I 1:11:21.240 --> 1:11:23.919 watched him do this, you know, a couple things emerged. 1:11:23.960 --> 1:11:28.559 Number One, a lot of people search for things versus 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:31.280 actually going into the website itself. So if you go 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:34.479 on Chrome and you start typing like one dot Google 1:11:34.520 --> 1:11:36.600 dot com, like I would press enter to go to 1:11:36.720 --> 1:11:39.840 directly that website, but a lot of people actually will 1:11:40.520 --> 1:11:43.800 click the option to search, and so now all of 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:46.800 a sudden, you're in this search on Google. And that 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:49.559 could lead to a lot of not so good things 1:11:49.600 --> 1:11:52.160 because it may lead to a website that's not the 1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:54.599 one you intended to go to and all this different stuff, 1:11:54.600 --> 1:11:57.320 and I watched that happen with him and also with 1:11:57.439 --> 1:11:59.960 the one dot Google dot com. Once we got onto 1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:05.439 that website, I couldn't believe how many different things, you know, 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:08.280 pop ups and messages and things we're kind of misleading, 1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:11.800 all getting him to try to subscribe to pay for 1:12:11.880 --> 1:12:14.200 more storage versus what we went there for, which was 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:16.240 to clean out some of the things we don't need 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:18.880 in that storage. And so it really got me to thinking, 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:24.120 like how there are just so many roadblocks in our 1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:27.080 way when we're online. Like these companies, I don't want 1:12:27.080 --> 1:12:29.400 to say they mislead us, but they definitely try to 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:32.320 lead us down a path other than the one that 1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:34.640 was intended for us. Right, Like, we're trying to do 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:36.519 one thing and they're trying to steer us to another thing, 1:12:36.560 --> 1:12:39.000 and ninety nine percent of the time it's to separate 1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:41.880 us from our money. That's like the entire point. Even 1:12:41.920 --> 1:12:44.760 Google itself. I mean, I love Google, but and I've 1:12:44.760 --> 1:12:47.000 talked about this before, but if you do a Google search, 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:50.120 I mean the top links are all sponsored paid ads, 1:12:50.160 --> 1:12:52.240 which is fine, the company has to make money, but 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:55.559 you would be surprised how many people just click on 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:59.280 the first link thinking that's the link that is the 1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:02.080 first result, when in actuality, you have to scroll down 1:13:02.160 --> 1:13:05.519 past these sponsored links to get to the actual what 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:08.919 we call organic web result, the first result for that website. 1:13:08.960 --> 1:13:12.200 So anyway, I tell you all this because somehow I 1:13:12.240 --> 1:13:14.439 was on a website called Consumer World, which I really 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:17.160 like because I check it on a daily basis, and 1:13:17.200 --> 1:13:23.400 they linked up with an explainer website called Merchantmachine dot 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:26.840 co dot uk and they've got a whole sort of 1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:31.680 explainer on dark patterns. And dark patterns are what I'm 1:13:31.720 --> 1:13:35.400 talking about. It's when the website is engineered to make 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:37.880 you do a certain thing, and you've had this happen 1:13:37.880 --> 1:13:40.720 to you when you're reading a pop up on the 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:43.519 web and you're like, wait a second, do I click 1:13:43.640 --> 1:13:45.840 yes or do I click no? It's kind of like, 1:13:46.040 --> 1:13:47.840 if you live in California, we have these things called 1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:51.320 propositions that they do during voting, and they're all worded 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:53.639 in a way where like you're not really sure how 1:13:53.680 --> 1:13:56.200 you should vote because you're not really sure if a 1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:58.120 yes is a no, if a no is a yes. 1:13:58.520 --> 1:14:01.559 If supporting it is good, supporting it is bad. So 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:04.840 it's called a dark pattern. These were identified back in 1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:09.360 twenty ten. Apparently they're used by shopping websites and they 1:14:09.360 --> 1:14:13.480 include misleading ads, misdirection, and tricking customers into a subscription 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:16.080 that's nearly impossible to get out of. And these are 1:14:16.120 --> 1:14:19.479 all over the web. So this Merchant Machine kind of 1:14:19.479 --> 1:14:22.240 looked at a bunch of different major online retailers to 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:25.679 figure out who are the worst offenders. They visited seventy 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:29.280 two online retailers. Who's the worst defender? If you can 1:14:29.320 --> 1:14:34.080 believe it, Amazon dot Com is number one. Now that's 1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:36.320 interesting that they came up with that. They noticed eleven 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:42.680 dark patterns on Amazon's website. HP and Dell were the 1:14:42.960 --> 1:14:48.960 most manipulative electronics retailers online. Instacart was the worst offender 1:14:49.080 --> 1:14:52.720 for grocery retailers, and when it came to beauty retailers, 1:14:53.200 --> 1:14:56.439 they had the most dark patterns on their website. So 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:59.920 overall beauty retailers were really bad. So how do you 1:15:00.120 --> 1:15:03.479 identify a dark pattern? Let's talk about this. The number 1:15:03.560 --> 1:15:07.400 one thing, according to Merchant Machine, is a trick question. 1:15:07.840 --> 1:15:10.760 This is a question that appears to be worded in 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:14.240 a way that actually asks something else. So it tricks 1:15:14.240 --> 1:15:17.280 you into giving the answer the company would prefer. For example, 1:15:17.920 --> 1:15:20.599 are you sure you don't want to cancel your subscription? 1:15:20.680 --> 1:15:23.080 And you say, wait what? And often when you're trying 1:15:23.120 --> 1:15:26.599 to cancel something, the answer that's like highlighted in green 1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:29.360 is really like, we'll keep you subscribed. That's kind of 1:15:29.360 --> 1:15:33.120 the best way to describe that. Number Two sneak into basket. 1:15:33.200 --> 1:15:36.600 A store adds something unwanted into your basket without you realizing. 1:15:37.000 --> 1:15:39.360 So sometimes you may have to say no to something 1:15:39.960 --> 1:15:44.160 and that you don't notice that. And so this is 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:46.720 one of those examples where you get a product in 1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:48.400 your basket and you're like, wait a second, I don't 1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:50.680 remember putting that in, but you just didn't take it 1:15:50.720 --> 1:15:54.760 out a roach motel. This is an online service that 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:57.280 creates a situation that's easy to get into but hard 1:15:57.280 --> 1:15:59.599 to get out to. This is something that I always 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:03.479 always look out for. And what this happens with is 1:16:03.560 --> 1:16:06.760 a lot of newspaper subscriptions are like this where it 1:16:06.880 --> 1:16:09.559 is super easy to sign up in one click online, 1:16:09.840 --> 1:16:12.439 but guess what to get out of that you have 1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:16.160 to call in or email. So my advice here is 1:16:16.200 --> 1:16:19.880 whenever you're subscribing to anything online. I always go to 1:16:19.920 --> 1:16:22.840 the fact the FAQ page and I look to see 1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:25.760 what are the cancelation terms? How do I cancel this 1:16:25.880 --> 1:16:28.799 service or product? And if it has anything about calling 1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:31.440 in or emailing or getting on the phone with a representative. 1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:34.360 Uh huh. I want to make sure that cancelation is 1:16:34.520 --> 1:16:37.240 just as easy as signing up. And in fact, I 1:16:37.320 --> 1:16:40.960 just did sign up for something recently that I knew, 1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:43.400 Like I looked at the cancelation and of course subscribing 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:47.040 as easy. Canceling, I've got to email someone and I 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:49.240 ended up doing it because you know, I just go 1:16:49.520 --> 1:16:55.080 in there knowing that price comparison prevention. So an online 1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:57.960 store makes it difficult to directly compare similar products by 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:02.400 concealing single unit prices on bulk buy items. So this 1:17:02.439 --> 1:17:05.200 happens on Amazon. Sometimes it's like, oh, three of these 1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:08.040 products for you know, seventeen dollars, but you're like, well, 1:17:08.080 --> 1:17:09.519 how much is this one? Like now I got to 1:17:09.560 --> 1:17:12.479 do this math because Walmart's selling it for this price, 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:14.240 and you know, I just want to see how much 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:17.599 is it for one? Hidden costs This is when you're 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:20.519 at checkout and your product becomes a little bit more 1:17:20.560 --> 1:17:25.479 expensive because of hidden costs. They add on a processing fee, 1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:28.320 you know, not necessarily a shipping fee, because shipping is free, 1:17:28.320 --> 1:17:30.960 but there's some sort of processing fee. This happens with 1:17:31.000 --> 1:17:34.200 hotels all the time, obviously, with those those resort fees 1:17:34.200 --> 1:17:36.439 that are just wild. This happened to me in real life. 1:17:36.439 --> 1:17:39.640 By the way, dark patterns are not just online. I 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:42.240 was at a restaurant a couple weeks ago and I 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:44.800 got my bill and I was going down the bill 1:17:44.880 --> 1:17:47.000 and I couldn't believe I'd never seen this before. They 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:51.200 had this eighteen percent surcharge that was mixed into the bill, 1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:54.960 and it was written in exactly the same text as 1:17:55.000 --> 1:17:56.720 something I had ordered. So I was going down, I 1:17:56.720 --> 1:17:58.559 was like, all right, I got that burger, I got 1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:00.799 those fries, and then all of this sudden, this eighteen 1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:03.840 percent you know, service tip charged thing was in there. 1:18:04.040 --> 1:18:06.000 I was like, oh, that's kind of tricky because it 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:08.200 was written in the same exact font as an item. 1:18:08.560 --> 1:18:10.680 Typically when they add the service charge on, it's in 1:18:10.720 --> 1:18:13.040 like a bigger thing down at the bottom. And then 1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:15.080 the best part was when I got my bill with 1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:18.759 the tip area it had the other part had vanished, 1:18:18.760 --> 1:18:20.559 so now it just said like total and then tip, 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:23.679 So if you weren't really paying attention, you'd be tipping 1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:26.479 twice on this bill. And so I thought that was 1:18:26.560 --> 1:18:29.720 kind of interesting. I'd not really seen that before. The 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:33.840 other thing disguised ads website artwork or links that looks 1:18:33.920 --> 1:18:37.439 like regular content, but it's actually an advertisement that can 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:41.680 happen on Amazon. You can see and then Force Continuity, 1:18:42.040 --> 1:18:44.759 a service provides you to put your credit card details 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:47.000 up front and then continues to charge you when you 1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:50.639 no longer want it like a free trial. And we're 1:18:50.640 --> 1:18:51.880 going to talk about some of the ways you can 1:18:51.880 --> 1:18:54.280 get around that later on with my guest Jared Newman. 1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:56.400 He's got some tips on how to do that, so 1:18:57.400 --> 1:18:59.080 he'll be a great guest. He's one of the few 1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:01.639 newsletters I get or actually open it up every single 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:03.040 time when I read it. So Jared's going to be 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:05.479 joining us later in the show this hour. Plus I'm 1:19:05.520 --> 1:19:08.879 gonna tell you about some websites that can generate AI artwork. 1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:10.639 I know AI has been in the news. We talked 1:19:10.640 --> 1:19:14.559 about AI tax app, We've talked about bing Ai. Yeah, 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:16.920 AI is a very big thing these days, so we'll 1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:19.559 talk about that coming up. Plus more of your calls. 1:19:19.640 --> 1:19:21.920 I do have a couple of lines open right now, 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:23.960 So if you have a question about technology, give me 1:19:24.000 --> 1:19:27.320 a call. The phone number is eight eight eight rich 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:30.280 one oh one. That's triple eight seven four to two, 1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:35.559 four to one zero one. Rich on Tech continues after this, 1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:42.360 Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name is rich Demiro, 1:19:42.880 --> 1:19:47.400 tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles, California. 1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:53.080 Online at rich on Tech on social media and connecting 1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:56.160 with you at triple eight rich one oh one. That's 1:19:56.160 --> 1:19:58.479 eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:02.400 zero one. Dow that question. Dial that phone number if 1:20:02.400 --> 1:20:06.680 you have a question. That's exactly what Christina and bonsall 1:20:07.160 --> 1:20:08.280 am I saying that right. 1:20:09.040 --> 1:20:12.799 Yes you are. That's perfect. Usually people don't pronounce it correctly. 1:20:13.000 --> 1:20:15.080 Oh well, I pronounce everything wrong. So I guess my 1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:16.960 jersey came in handy this time. 1:20:18.080 --> 1:20:20.760 Now you did great. Hey, I'm thrilled you're the tech 1:20:20.840 --> 1:20:24.799 guy and I know you're organized. So this is my question. 1:20:25.479 --> 1:20:30.560 I have two small businesses and I have a gazillion receipts. 1:20:30.880 --> 1:20:33.679 The two things I've done in the past is I 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:37.040 take the receipts on eight and a half by eleven 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:41.160 copy them and saved them to forward, you know, just 1:20:41.200 --> 1:20:43.400 save for the I R. This is all IRS. 1:20:43.439 --> 1:20:43.719 Sure? 1:20:43.840 --> 1:20:46.880 Yeah, then I thought this is crazy because I know 1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:50.479 that they will eventually fade out. So now what I'm 1:20:50.520 --> 1:20:53.400 doing is I'm taping them on just a sheet of 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:57.839 paper and saving them. But that's crazy. So my question 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:02.120 to you, Rich is is there another way that I 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:05.519 can go about doing this? Now what I do is 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:08.679 I write with a pen on there, you know, the date, 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:11.679 the amount where it want you. That may not even 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:15.320 be acceptable because the rest of it will fade. Do 1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:19.559 you have anything else you could offer for to do 1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:21.760 it quickly and be done with it and not be 1:21:21.840 --> 1:21:23.479 finding what the vis receipts. 1:21:23.800 --> 1:21:26.360 Well, first off, kudos to you for being so on 1:21:26.439 --> 1:21:29.519 top of things. I mean, that is incredible that you're doing. 1:21:29.600 --> 1:21:31.320 I mean the fact that you're taping all these things 1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:33.559 to paper and you know, keeping them all organized. That's 1:21:33.560 --> 1:21:35.479 probably more than like ninety nine percent of people do. 1:21:36.040 --> 1:21:39.720 Now, I know, I think it's just crazy and paranoid 1:21:39.720 --> 1:21:40.320 to the IR. 1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:42.640 Yeah, I hear you. And now I'm not I'm not 1:21:42.680 --> 1:21:45.000 a tax expert, so I can't you know, I can't 1:21:45.000 --> 1:21:47.559 give you financial advice. But I can tell you I'm 1:21:47.600 --> 1:21:49.880 not you know some of the things that I think 1:21:49.920 --> 1:21:52.839 would help you in this situation. And you know, I'm 1:21:53.160 --> 1:21:57.040 I know that the IRS takes digital receipts, like they 1:21:57.080 --> 1:22:00.599 will accept a digital scan of a receipt. So that 1:22:00.840 --> 1:22:02.200 so that's the number one thing you need to do 1:22:02.280 --> 1:22:03.920 is you've got to get these digital. So there's a 1:22:03.920 --> 1:22:05.960 couple there's many many ways you can do this. So 1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:09.800 and there's two kind of things that we're looking at here. 1:22:10.080 --> 1:22:12.320 Do you want to just scan these in and just 1:22:12.360 --> 1:22:14.040 have them in some sort of file on your computer 1:22:14.240 --> 1:22:16.439 just for safekeeping, or do you want to organize them 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:18.280 with some sort of app. Those are two different things, 1:22:18.280 --> 1:22:21.439 and I'm gonna explain both of those situations. So if 1:22:21.479 --> 1:22:25.840 you just want to sort of, you know, scan these in, there, 1:22:26.080 --> 1:22:28.479 there's three things I'd recommend you can use just a 1:22:28.520 --> 1:22:32.040 standard iPhone. If you go into the files app on 1:22:32.080 --> 1:22:36.559 the iPhone, you can just create a new folder on 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:38.519 your phone, or I would do it an iCloud drive 1:22:38.560 --> 1:22:40.400 if I were you, because you want these in the cloud, 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:43.080 and you can just tap in the upper right hand corner, 1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:45.519 there's a three dots inside a circle and it says 1:22:45.560 --> 1:22:48.879 scan documents. So the iPhone has a built in scanner 1:22:49.560 --> 1:22:51.599 on the phone. You can also use the notes app 1:22:51.680 --> 1:22:53.880 on the iPhone, but I personally would not do that 1:22:53.960 --> 1:22:56.120 in this case because I think you're going to want 1:22:56.120 --> 1:23:00.599 to create a separate file or a separate yeah, separate 1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:04.480 file inside folders for every one of these tax documents, 1:23:04.840 --> 1:23:07.760 these receipts. So I would start with January. I would 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:10.600 say January twenty twenty three, put all the things that 1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:13.200 you scan for January inside that folder, then move on 1:23:13.280 --> 1:23:15.800 to the next month. Next month it's February. Scan them 1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:17.640 as you go, and that's one way. Now, if you 1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:21.920 have an Android, you can just use Google Drive and 1:23:22.000 --> 1:23:24.599 they have a built in scanner. So if you go 1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:28.839 into open up Google Drive, the app on your Android phone, 1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:31.200 there's a big plus sign in the lower right hand corner. 1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:34.800 You press that plus sign and it says scan and 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:37.799 you can use your Android phone to scan a document. 1:23:38.640 --> 1:23:40.960 And same thing. I would use the same exact you know, 1:23:41.000 --> 1:23:44.400 twenty twenty three January, put all the documents in there, 1:23:44.439 --> 1:23:46.400 and that's just one way to kind of get these 1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:49.559 things digitized and into your you know, into the cloud, 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:51.920 into your system. That will would be good for safe 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:54.880 keeping in case you ever need them. Then you've got 1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:57.800 things like a scanner. So if you think that that's 1:23:57.840 --> 1:24:00.519 too much work to use your phone, sometimes the scan 1:24:00.600 --> 1:24:03.320 with your phone comes out good, sometimes it doesn't. I 1:24:03.360 --> 1:24:07.479 would recommend a scanner from Fijitsu, and specifically the scan 1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:12.240 Snap scanners are fantastic, And so I tested one of 1:24:12.240 --> 1:24:16.080 these for a segment we did and I'm trying to 1:24:16.120 --> 1:24:17.760 get the name of it, but I believe it's just 1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:21.000 the scan Snap. It's oh gosh, what is it? Let 1:24:21.040 --> 1:24:22.400 me let me see if I can find it here. 1:24:22.880 --> 1:24:24.479 I'm getting a bunch of pop ups. Oh, here it 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:28.000 is the scan Snap IX one hundred. This is a 1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:32.679 mobile wireless scanner. It is super super easy to use. 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:35.599 It can sit on your desk and you connect it 1:24:35.600 --> 1:24:37.759 to the cloud and every time you get a receipt, 1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:40.880 you just pop open the scanner. It immediately comes on. 1:24:41.000 --> 1:24:43.320 It connects to your Wi Fi. You feed the receipt 1:24:43.360 --> 1:24:45.920 in or three or four or five, and it takes 1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:47.439 care of them. It puts them all up into the 1:24:47.439 --> 1:24:50.080 cloud in a nice format that you want. They also 1:24:50.120 --> 1:24:53.200 have some nice software with that scanner that can organize 1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:57.040 your receipts using ocr which will scan the text on 1:24:57.080 --> 1:25:00.880 those receipts and help you search for them later. So 1:25:00.960 --> 1:25:04.880 that's your phone, We have your scanner. Now there is 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:07.160 something you can do with an app. So there are 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:10.400 several apps to help you scan these things in as well. 1:25:10.960 --> 1:25:13.880 So yes, there are a million and one scanning apps. 1:25:13.920 --> 1:25:17.160 You can use something like Adobe. They have a scan app, 1:25:17.160 --> 1:25:19.840 Adobe Scan works for iOS and Android. That's a great 1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:24.080 app for scanning. But if you want a receipt specific app, 1:25:24.120 --> 1:25:27.759 there's an app called shoeboxed, which, according to their website, 1:25:27.840 --> 1:25:30.280 is the number one receipt scanner app loved by over 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:33.040 a million businesses. I have not personally used this, but 1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:36.040 it seems like it has a lot of good reviews 1:25:36.080 --> 1:25:39.080 and a lot of good features that I would think 1:25:39.120 --> 1:25:41.920 you're looking for. And you're gonna probably have to pay 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:44.479 for this. It looks like it's anywhere from eighteen to 1:25:44.560 --> 1:25:47.040 fifty four dollars a month, but you are running a business. 1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:49.080 I'm not an expert in taxes, but I believe this 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:51.640 would be a write off. So and if it's helping you, 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:54.920 that's half the battle right there. So the website is 1:25:54.960 --> 1:26:00.400 shoeboxed dot com. Expensify is a very popular sc scanning 1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:03.439 receipt scanning app. I know a lot of companies will 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:07.400 partner with Expensify, so I believe I've used this in 1:26:07.439 --> 1:26:10.800 the past. They have a dedicated app just for scanning 1:26:11.280 --> 1:26:13.800 your receipts, so that's another way to go about it, 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:17.439 and Expensify is pretty well known, so I think that 1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:20.120 that would be something that's really handy for you as well. 1:26:20.880 --> 1:26:22.800 There's another app that I've used in the past called 1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:27.040 Everlance e ve r l a nce. This is a 1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:29.960 really incredible app because not only can it keep track 1:26:30.040 --> 1:26:33.280 of your transactions kind of like the fly fin app 1:26:33.280 --> 1:26:35.840 we were talking about earlier, but it also keeps track 1:26:35.880 --> 1:26:38.120 of your mileage, so if that's something else you need 1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:40.920 to keep track of. If you're a freelancer, this will 1:26:40.960 --> 1:26:43.080 help you log your miles as well. That's how it 1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:46.320 sort of started out. But it also does the expenses 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:49.920 as well. So with this everlance app, anytime you get 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:52.519 into your car and it notices that you're moving, it 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:55.439 will create a trip. So when you're driving at the 1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:56.880 end of the week, you can just say, okay, that 1:26:56.920 --> 1:26:58.960 trip was to go to this client's house. This trip 1:26:59.040 --> 1:27:01.320 was to go to this client business and you can 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:05.320 categorize all those as well. So lots of options for you, Christina. 1:27:05.400 --> 1:27:08.639 Hopefully one of those works you are listening to rich 1:27:08.680 --> 1:27:10.280 on Tech. Coming up next, we're going to talk to 1:27:10.400 --> 1:27:13.640 Jared Newman, who's going to offer some tips about cord cutting, privacy, 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:18.320 and more. It's all here rich on Tech. Welcome back 1:27:18.320 --> 1:27:22.840 to rich on Tech. My name is rich Demiro, talking technology, 1:27:22.880 --> 1:27:26.519 hanging out with you. Phone line is eighty to eight 1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:27.680 rich one oh one. 1:27:27.720 --> 1:27:27.960 All right. 1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:29.840 I don't want to get right to my next guest 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:33.799 because he is super helpful. If you think I'm helpful. 1:27:33.960 --> 1:27:36.439 This guy has a great newsletter. His name's Jared Newman. 1:27:36.479 --> 1:27:38.600 He's a freelance writer. He covers a whole bunch of 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:42.479 different uh you know, consumer devices and technology. He's got 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:46.000 two newsletters that are really good. One is called Advisorator, 1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:49.600 the other one is Cord Cutter Weekly. He's got a 1:27:49.600 --> 1:27:52.080 lot of subscribers for a good reason because he gives 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:54.599 good advice. Jared Newman, welcome to the show. 1:27:55.479 --> 1:27:57.280 Hey, rich thanks for having me and thanks for saying 1:27:57.280 --> 1:27:57.519 all that. 1:27:57.840 --> 1:27:59.720 Yeah. I mean, look, I get a lot of newsletters 1:27:59.800 --> 1:28:02.880 and nine of them go straight to trash yours. I 1:28:03.240 --> 1:28:06.400 read through the entire thing because you always have good 1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:08.800 little tidbits, you know, like good little stuff. So let's 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:12.160 just get to some of this stuff. This week you 1:28:12.280 --> 1:28:14.639 talked about. Let's see what should we talk about first? 1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:17.920 Let's talk about this MLS. So T mobile customers get 1:28:18.040 --> 1:28:22.680 MLS season Pass on the Apple TV app free. But 1:28:22.800 --> 1:28:25.479 Apple TV is so confusing because you've got the device 1:28:26.000 --> 1:28:28.920 and you've got the actual app. So people are always like, 1:28:28.960 --> 1:28:30.720 how can I watch this? So can you explain that 1:28:30.760 --> 1:28:31.240 a little bit? 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:34.040 Yeah, you have the device, you have the app, and 1:28:34.080 --> 1:28:36.200 then you have Apple TV Plus, which is a service 1:28:36.600 --> 1:28:38.240 within the app, which is separate. 1:28:39.080 --> 1:28:39.280 Yeah. 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:41.360 Really, you could really go down a rabbit hole with it. 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:44.000 But you know, the Apple TV app is sort of 1:28:44.040 --> 1:28:49.360 apples all purpose way of handling things like iTunes rentals 1:28:49.640 --> 1:28:53.839 and the Apple TV Plus streaming service and now MLS 1:28:53.880 --> 1:28:56.800 season Pass, which they have the exclusive streaming rights too, 1:28:57.080 --> 1:28:59.000 So all that is going to flow through the Apple 1:28:59.040 --> 1:29:03.479 TV app app. However, season Pass mL season Pass is 1:29:03.520 --> 1:29:06.800 its own separate subscription. You do get a discount if 1:29:06.840 --> 1:29:10.080 you're an Apple TV Plus subscriber, but you don't have 1:29:10.160 --> 1:29:13.000 to be, and it's just its own thing. It just 1:29:13.040 --> 1:29:16.040 happens to flow through Apple's TV. 1:29:15.920 --> 1:29:19.679 App, so confusing. So basically, I oh, if that makes sense. 1:29:20.200 --> 1:29:22.559 Best if you're a T Mobile customer, though, you get 1:29:22.560 --> 1:29:24.479 this for free. So I had a friend that was like, 1:29:24.600 --> 1:29:26.200 I have T Mobile, but I don't have an iPhone. 1:29:26.200 --> 1:29:28.120 I said, no, you do. You have a Roku because like, 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:30.599 you can get the Apple TV app on these different devices, 1:29:30.680 --> 1:29:32.200 right exactly. 1:29:32.320 --> 1:29:35.800 Yeah, it's on pretty much every major streaming platform. It's 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:39.080 not on Android phones at the moment, oh surprise, pretty 1:29:39.160 --> 1:29:43.120 much everything else, and it's on the web. So yeah, 1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:46.000 there's plenty of ways to access the Apple TV app. 1:29:46.200 --> 1:29:48.519 And if you're a T Mobile customer, you would actually 1:29:48.560 --> 1:29:52.720 redeem this through the T Mobile Tuesday's app, which is 1:29:52.760 --> 1:29:55.320 where they do their various deals and things. And you 1:29:55.400 --> 1:29:59.559 have to actually do this starting on the twenty first 1:30:00.080 --> 1:30:03.280 through March fourteenth, So there's this window where you have 1:30:03.360 --> 1:30:06.920 to redeem the free year of MLS season pass and 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:09.360 then after that the windows closed. So put it on 1:30:09.400 --> 1:30:12.120 your calendar or what have you so that you remember 1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:12.880 to get that freebie. 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:14.800 Yeah, it's a ninety nine dollars value. You're going to 1:30:14.880 --> 1:30:19.000 get every regular live season match. You're going to get 1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:23.080 all the playoff matches, all the league's cup, and there's 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:25.120 no blackouts. This is I mean, this is actually a 1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:27.439 pretty cool thing that Apple has done where they're pretty 1:30:27.479 --> 1:30:29.559 much the first to do a sports league with no 1:30:29.640 --> 1:30:32.559 blockouts when you have a subscription like this. All right, 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:36.680 let's move on. Paramount Plus is raising prices? Tell me 1:30:36.680 --> 1:30:37.120 about that. 1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:41.200 Yeah, So they kind of been telegraphing this for a while. 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:44.120 It is a little anti climactic because they the executives 1:30:44.160 --> 1:30:46.480 for several months have been like, oh yeah, it's overvalue. 1:30:46.520 --> 1:30:48.759 There's going to be a price, like it's one dollar. 1:30:49.720 --> 1:30:52.360 It was five dollars a month, and now it's six 1:30:52.400 --> 1:30:54.320 dollars or it's going to be six dollars a month. 1:30:54.360 --> 1:30:57.160 This is actually not happening until the third quarter of 1:30:57.200 --> 1:31:00.040 this year, and that's for the ads supported plan and 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:03.840 the AD free plan. This gets a little interesting. So 1:31:04.040 --> 1:31:06.960 it was ten dollars per month, it is going up 1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:11.120 to twelve dollars per month. However, that twelve dollars per 1:31:11.160 --> 1:31:14.880 month will get you everything from the Showtime catalog, and 1:31:14.920 --> 1:31:18.519 so they had been bundling Paramount Plus and Showtime for 1:31:18.600 --> 1:31:22.040 a while, and that bundle price was fifteen dollars per month. 1:31:22.439 --> 1:31:24.760 Now it's actually going down to twelve dollars per month. 1:31:24.800 --> 1:31:27.680 So if you're already bundling Paramount Plus and Showtime, you 1:31:27.720 --> 1:31:29.920 would save a little money here. I will point out 1:31:29.960 --> 1:31:32.519 that if you know where to look, or if you 1:31:32.600 --> 1:31:35.600 perhaps subscribe to my newsletter, it is fairly easy to 1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:39.160 get Paramount Plus for free on a month by month basis. 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:41.240 So this all ends up being a moot point if 1:31:41.240 --> 1:31:44.840 you're sort of savvy about it. But yeah, if you're 1:31:44.840 --> 1:31:46.920 a paying customer, there will be a small price sig. 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:49.000 Yeah, this is what I love about your newsletter. I've 1:31:49.000 --> 1:31:53.120 gotten so many Paramount Streaming free promo codes because you 1:31:53.160 --> 1:31:55.120 just put them in there. Like every single time you 1:31:55.160 --> 1:31:56.720 send a newsletter there's a new one and I'm like this, 1:31:57.439 --> 1:31:59.720 certainly this will not work this time, and sure enough 1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:01.960 it does. By the way, I'll put a link to 1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:05.800 both of Jared's newsletters at my website. Rich on tech 1:32:06.080 --> 1:32:09.559 dot TV. Let's see what else did you have this week? Oh? 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:12.880 Netflix killed the surprise Me button? Did anyone ever use that? 1:32:12.960 --> 1:32:13.000 Like? 1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:15.599 Who wants to just watch something random? Like I always 1:32:15.640 --> 1:32:17.880 make the joke like you really have nothing to do 1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:20.040 in your life. If you're going on Netflix and you're saying, 1:32:20.080 --> 1:32:22.759 just surprise me with something like let me just watch something. 1:32:24.040 --> 1:32:24.200 Yeah. 1:32:24.280 --> 1:32:26.080 I almost wrote a little bit more about that, but 1:32:26.160 --> 1:32:28.719 I just kind of didn't have the space or time whatever. 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:31.320 But it was kind of funny because this is a 1:32:31.840 --> 1:32:34.320 much bellyhooed feature. When it came out, I think it 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:37.880 was last year or something, and you know, they talked 1:32:37.880 --> 1:32:39.720 to the press ahead of time. It was a big thing. 1:32:39.880 --> 1:32:42.320 They were finally rolling out the shuffle button then everybody wanted, 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:44.760 and then it turns out nobody actually used it, and 1:32:44.840 --> 1:32:48.679 I think I kind of think that maybe they didn't 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:50.760 go far enough. I don't know, you really have to 1:32:50.800 --> 1:32:55.200 trust the Netflix algorithm. Yeah, just click surprise me. They 1:32:55.200 --> 1:32:58.200 didn't really like, Okay, it would be nice if it 1:32:58.240 --> 1:33:00.080 was like I want to watch a comedy show me, 1:33:00.240 --> 1:33:02.640 you know, let me shuffle through some comedies until I 1:33:02.640 --> 1:33:06.240 find something I want. But it was really just total random. 1:33:07.040 --> 1:33:10.000 You just really had to trust that they knew exactly 1:33:10.000 --> 1:33:11.800 what you wanted to watch at that pretty time and 1:33:12.520 --> 1:33:14.280 that that didn't typically happen. 1:33:14.360 --> 1:33:17.280 I mean, look, it's funny because like TikTok's entire world 1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:19.280 is based on that, but you're talking, you know, a 1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:22.920 minute little like videos. This is like Netflix, where it's 1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:25.559 like you're gonna get started on some random like sitcom 1:33:25.640 --> 1:33:28.360 or hour long show or movie, like without any sort 1:33:28.400 --> 1:33:30.920 of like heads up on what that's got. 1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:33.320 Yeah, because even you know, even when I know what 1:33:33.360 --> 1:33:35.120 the show is going to be, I'm still sort of like, 1:33:35.160 --> 1:33:37.080 do I really want to get in right? Right? 1:33:37.200 --> 1:33:38.680 Like the first couple of minutes, You're like, Okay, you 1:33:38.680 --> 1:33:40.040 got to give me a reason to stick with this 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:44.160 thing you talked about in your latest Chord Cutter weekly newsletter, 1:33:44.400 --> 1:33:48.320 the the Roku privacy situation. So can you tell me 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:49.759 about that a little bit? If you have a Roku, 1:33:49.840 --> 1:33:50.400 what should you do? 1:33:50.520 --> 1:33:51.120 Yeah? 1:33:51.160 --> 1:33:53.400 So, well I should clarify it not just Roku, I 1:33:53.400 --> 1:33:58.599 mean pretty much every streaming device has smart TV too. Also, 1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:02.599 there's various mechanisms by which it will track your viewing 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:06.120 habits and use it for ad targeting. And there are 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:09.240 levers that you can pull to kind of minimize that 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:11.759 data collection and minimize that targeted ad stuff. 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:13.200 It's sort of this. 1:34:13.160 --> 1:34:17.360 Weird intangible thing, right, Like, if you take the time 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:20.160 to opt out of all these things, are you really 1:34:20.240 --> 1:34:23.000 going to notice it, maybe not too much. At most, 1:34:23.320 --> 1:34:26.120 it'll be like you won't see as many targeted ads. 1:34:26.120 --> 1:34:28.120 You may not have that feeling of like, oh I 1:34:28.160 --> 1:34:30.040 saw an ad for this thing, and now it's following 1:34:30.040 --> 1:34:33.200 me somewhere else. So you know, is it really worth 1:34:33.200 --> 1:34:33.639 the trouble? 1:34:34.200 --> 1:34:34.559 I don't know. 1:34:34.600 --> 1:34:36.320 I mean, you know, how many times have we seen 1:34:36.920 --> 1:34:40.920 the story about smart TVs kind of tracking everything you're 1:34:40.960 --> 1:34:43.000 watching and people get real freaked out about that. 1:34:43.120 --> 1:34:44.320 So there is sort of. 1:34:44.240 --> 1:34:47.080 This intangible gut feeling of like, hey, I don't really 1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:49.800 want to be watched when I'm watching TV. So I 1:34:49.880 --> 1:34:52.160 decided to kind of put together all the ways that 1:34:52.200 --> 1:34:55.240 you can minimize that activity or that behavior. 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:58.240 This was a big thing with the Visio TVs. Remember 1:34:58.240 --> 1:35:02.519 that whole revelation where they were actually scanning anything that 1:35:02.560 --> 1:35:04.320 came across that screen, even if it was like off 1:35:04.320 --> 1:35:06.400 of a DVD player. Is that Am I just getting 1:35:06.400 --> 1:35:06.760 that right? 1:35:08.320 --> 1:35:08.559 Yes? 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:11.960 Except that every TV does that. So the thing the 1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:15.360 nuance with Visio is that they weren't really disclosing what 1:35:15.439 --> 1:35:18.160 they were. You know, they weren't really being super upfront 1:35:18.160 --> 1:35:20.640 about it. And granted, nobody's that upfront about it, but 1:35:21.840 --> 1:35:24.520 you know, they were selling that data off to marketers 1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:28.160 and things, and it was just kind of inadequate disclosure 1:35:28.200 --> 1:35:31.880 to consumers. But all the smart TV brands will do 1:35:31.960 --> 1:35:35.120 this if you don't opt out, depends on the TV 1:35:35.240 --> 1:35:37.840 brand how you actually do that. Usually there's something during 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:40.439 setup or a setting you can dig into. But yeah, 1:35:40.479 --> 1:35:43.920 this thing is called automatic content recognition, and it's sort 1:35:43.960 --> 1:35:47.960 of like recognizing the content that's on your TV, regardless 1:35:47.960 --> 1:35:50.680 of what input it's coming from, and using that for 1:35:50.760 --> 1:35:53.400 ad targeting or market research or what have you. 1:35:53.560 --> 1:35:56.120 Okay, this is really important right now because I thought 1:35:56.160 --> 1:35:58.080 this was just one TV. So this is why these 1:35:58.080 --> 1:36:00.720 companies love to ship smart TV that you connect to 1:36:00.760 --> 1:36:04.080 your Wi Fi, because they're basically scanning everything that you're 1:36:04.160 --> 1:36:07.600 watching and then selling that information to advertisers. And I 1:36:07.680 --> 1:36:12.880 just found an article that you know, Amazon, Android and Google, TVs, LGTVS, 1:36:12.960 --> 1:36:16.800 Roku TVs, Samsung TV, Sony, and Visio. So if you 1:36:17.000 --> 1:36:19.920 are if you have a smart TV and you don't 1:36:19.960 --> 1:36:21.599 like the idea of this, I would google the name 1:36:21.640 --> 1:36:24.400 of that smart TV and ACR like you, like Jared just. 1:36:24.320 --> 1:36:27.120 Mentioned, Yeah, and so that's in this article that I 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:29.560 just put out. And you know also the sort of 1:36:29.640 --> 1:36:32.160 nuance heres. People will go, ah, well that's why I 1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:34.240 don't have a that's why I want a done TV 1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:37.240 and I just want to plug a Roku or fire 1:36:37.320 --> 1:36:39.640 TV into it so that this doesn't happen. But guess what, 1:36:39.720 --> 1:36:41.960 if you're using a Roku or a fire TV, they're 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:43.840 also trying to do all that kind of stuff. It's 1:36:43.880 --> 1:36:47.639 not scanning your other inputs, but Roku definitely is interested 1:36:47.680 --> 1:36:50.599 in everything that you're watching across all your different apps 1:36:50.640 --> 1:36:54.519 and using that for a targeting. So you know, there's 1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:56.840 different levels of it, and it's just kind of it's 1:36:56.880 --> 1:36:59.599 not just smart TVs that are doing this. It's really 1:36:59.680 --> 1:37:02.240 just anything that's connected to the Internet. As we know, 1:37:02.680 --> 1:37:05.439 everything's powered by targeted ads and you just have to 1:37:05.439 --> 1:37:07.640 be mindful of how that happens. 1:37:07.920 --> 1:37:09.400 All right, Jared, We're gonna have to leave it there, 1:37:09.400 --> 1:37:12.200 but tell folks how to find you, the best way 1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:15.040 to uh find you and uh, you know, subscribe to 1:37:15.040 --> 1:37:15.559 your stuff. 1:37:16.360 --> 1:37:18.720 Yeah, So, as we talked a lot about streaming chord 1:37:18.760 --> 1:37:20.959 cutting stuff, do you want to check out my newsletter? 1:37:21.040 --> 1:37:26.160 It is Coordcutterweekly dot Com comes out every Friday morning. 1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:27.599 And appreciate if you signed up for. 1:37:27.560 --> 1:37:29.880 It, all right. It's a great newsletter, Jared, thanks so much. 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:32.240 I'll put a link on my website. Rich on tech 1:37:32.439 --> 1:37:34.479 dot TV. Always good to run into you at the 1:37:34.680 --> 1:37:37.920 tech events. And coming up we are going to talk 1:37:38.000 --> 1:37:42.160 about uh cash, Google images and clip art might not 1:37:42.640 --> 1:37:44.960 be necessary anymore when you hear about these websites. I'm 1:37:44.960 --> 1:37:47.919 gonna tell you about that use AI to create artwork 1:37:48.040 --> 1:37:51.160 on demand that you can use. Plus, we'll wrap up 1:37:51.160 --> 1:37:53.679 the show and have a couple of more calls all 1:37:53.720 --> 1:37:56.800 coming up next. You're listening to rich on Tech eighty 1:37:56.840 --> 1:37:59.439 eight seven four to two, four to one zero one, 1:37:59.560 --> 1:38:03.720 triple a Rich one oh one. Welcome back to rich 1:38:03.800 --> 1:38:06.920 on Tech. Rich Demiro hanging out talking technology. Let's go 1:38:06.920 --> 1:38:10.639 to Barbara in Pasadena. Barbara, you're on with. 1:38:10.760 --> 1:38:15.960 Rich Hi Rich. My question is I have a nineteen 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:21.720 twenty two year old, nineteen twenty two sicker home. I 1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:26.880 have sensors, steel doors, and a large dog. But I'm 1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:29.719 baffled by the first steps and the kinds of questions 1:38:29.720 --> 1:38:33.080 I should pose this home security system. 1:38:34.080 --> 1:38:38.439 Thank you, Oh good question. Home security. You know, here's 1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:41.799 the thing about this, so, I mean, traditionally you would 1:38:42.479 --> 1:38:45.639 go with something like an ADT or you know these 1:38:45.680 --> 1:38:48.800 companies that sell you on a big contract and the 1:38:48.800 --> 1:38:51.160 whole name of the game is that it's easy because 1:38:51.160 --> 1:38:53.040 someone comes to your house and wires it up and 1:38:53.080 --> 1:38:56.000 does everything you need. But then you're saddled with a 1:38:56.000 --> 1:38:59.479 bill for a while, and so you know, that's kind 1:38:59.520 --> 1:39:01.160 of the name of the game. They'll give you the equipment, 1:39:01.520 --> 1:39:04.320 but you're paying over time. You know, usually it's a 1:39:04.320 --> 1:39:07.880 three year contract something like that. Do you have anything 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:10.680 that's important to you, like what's most important to you. 1:39:10.760 --> 1:39:12.680 Do you want like a combination of cameras or do 1:39:12.760 --> 1:39:15.479 you just want security like when a door opens, you know, 1:39:15.520 --> 1:39:16.639 alarm that kind of stuff. 1:39:19.160 --> 1:39:19.720 I don't know. 1:39:22.160 --> 1:39:24.800 Now, are you comfortable installing this yourself? I guess that's 1:39:24.840 --> 1:39:27.680 another question you need to figure out. Do you do you? 1:39:27.680 --> 1:39:30.240 Well, I don't know. I mean, it depends on how 1:39:30.280 --> 1:39:31.320 complicated it is. 1:39:31.640 --> 1:39:32.880 Yeah, okay, Well I was. 1:39:32.880 --> 1:39:36.479 Recommended a system called simple Safe, but there are so 1:39:36.640 --> 1:39:37.960 many systems out there. 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:44.000 Yeah, so, well, simply Safe is I think an excellent system. 1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:46.760 I really do, and it's one that I use for 1:39:46.800 --> 1:39:49.160 many years, and I think it's very easy. You can 1:39:49.200 --> 1:39:52.599 set it up yourself and it's very straightforward and so 1:39:53.320 --> 1:39:56.280 simply safe is great. And they've expanded into cameras. It 1:39:56.360 --> 1:39:59.760 started out as just just sort of sensors for your 1:39:59.760 --> 1:40:03.200 door and windows. And the way that these systems work 1:40:03.400 --> 1:40:07.800 is typically you sign up you you know, you pay 1:40:07.840 --> 1:40:10.519 a monthly fee. The monthly fee is considerably less than 1:40:10.560 --> 1:40:12.800 it would be if you were going with something like 1:40:12.800 --> 1:40:14.839 a big company like you know what I mentioned earlier, 1:40:15.280 --> 1:40:17.839 a big home monitoring, but they still offer home monitoring, 1:40:17.920 --> 1:40:20.479 and then they ship you the stuff and you install 1:40:20.520 --> 1:40:23.280 it yourself. So it has a base station and then 1:40:23.320 --> 1:40:25.160 it's all a car. So if you have you go 1:40:25.200 --> 1:40:28.120 around your house, if you have five doors in your house, 1:40:28.200 --> 1:40:31.400 you'll order five little sensors for your doors, and then 1:40:31.439 --> 1:40:33.360 you go around, you stick them up on your doors, 1:40:33.479 --> 1:40:35.719 and you know, it connects to the scent the main 1:40:36.040 --> 1:40:39.400 base station, and that base station either has Wi Fi 1:40:39.600 --> 1:40:42.599 or cellular or a combination of both. Typically it's both, 1:40:43.160 --> 1:40:45.000 and that's how it will call you know, the police 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:47.960 or fire in the you know, if there's an emergency. 1:40:48.400 --> 1:40:50.880 And then of course you can continue to build onto 1:40:50.960 --> 1:40:52.960 these systems. So if you say, oh, I'd like a 1:40:52.960 --> 1:40:55.400 panic button, you can order that on the website and 1:40:55.439 --> 1:40:57.680 it connects to your account. So the two that I 1:40:57.720 --> 1:40:59.880 would really consider, if you're willing to do it, you're 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:03.920 is Simply Safe and Ring. So I think Ring has 1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:08.360 a really good home security system, but it's got a 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:10.479 lot of different products, So I think it kind of 1:41:10.600 --> 1:41:13.840 comes down to how many things, like how complicated you 1:41:13.840 --> 1:41:16.479 want to make this. I think that simply based on 1:41:16.520 --> 1:41:19.839 the name and based on using the product is pretty simple. 1:41:20.080 --> 1:41:22.920 If you just want sensors on your doors, go ahead 1:41:22.960 --> 1:41:26.080 and do the simply Safe rout It's pretty straightforward. You 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:30.479 install these sensors, you install an audible alarm in your house, 1:41:30.600 --> 1:41:34.720 you connect it to the monitoring and it's very very straightforward. 1:41:35.120 --> 1:41:36.720 But if you want something that's a little bit more 1:41:36.760 --> 1:41:40.240 full featured and something that has a lot of products 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:42.679 that work with it, I think that the Ring system 1:41:42.720 --> 1:41:44.360 is going to be a little bit more full featured 1:41:44.360 --> 1:41:48.559 than simply Safe, and it's very simpler, very simpilar. You 1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:51.720 get the base station, you get all the accessories. But 1:41:51.800 --> 1:41:53.880 I think what Ring is really known for is it's 1:41:53.880 --> 1:41:56.400 security cameras. And so if you want one of those 1:41:56.479 --> 1:41:59.800 video doorbells, yes, simply Safe offers that, but let's be 1:41:59.840 --> 1:42:02.160 on us. Ring invented that, so if you want that, 1:42:02.400 --> 1:42:05.439 maybe you go with that. And the pricing is very 1:42:05.479 --> 1:42:07.639 competitive too. I mean, I simply say, if I believe 1:42:07.920 --> 1:42:11.559 is about you know, anywhere from fifteen to thirty dollars 1:42:11.560 --> 1:42:14.679 a month, and Ring, I believe is anywhere from ten 1:42:14.720 --> 1:42:17.120 to thirty dollars a month, depending on the planet you have. 1:42:17.600 --> 1:42:20.080 So it is very affordable. And the good news is 1:42:20.360 --> 1:42:22.280 it's you know, you don't have to pay, like, if 1:42:22.320 --> 1:42:24.599 you want to stop using it, you can. It's not 1:42:24.640 --> 1:42:26.960 like these other systems where they come to your house 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:28.760 and install them for you. You're going to be on 1:42:28.800 --> 1:42:31.640 the hook for three years of paying for monitoring no 1:42:31.680 --> 1:42:34.800 matter what. And these systems like Ring and simply Safe 1:42:34.840 --> 1:42:37.599 do give you the monitoring as well, so you can 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:41.120 do that. You know, whether you know you want to 1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:43.280 go with Simply Safe for Ring, I think just depends on, 1:42:43.439 --> 1:42:46.080 like I said, the products that you want. So I 1:42:46.080 --> 1:42:48.440 think that Ring does a really good job with the cameras, 1:42:48.920 --> 1:42:50.639 and so I think that that would be a good 1:42:50.680 --> 1:42:52.240 way to go if you want the door cams and 1:42:52.280 --> 1:42:54.800 all that stuff. But I've installed a couple of these 1:42:54.840 --> 1:42:58.160 systems and they are very straightforward The RING system is 1:42:58.320 --> 1:43:01.040 very easy to install. It's all prettymuch much QR codes 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:04.800 the Simply Safe system. When I did it, it was very 1:43:04.800 --> 1:43:09.000 straightforward as well. And all of these systems are you know, 1:43:09.080 --> 1:43:11.000 they've been updated over the years, so if you have 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:13.360 an old Simply Safe, the newer systems are probably just 1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:15.880 better than the old ones. But the main thing to 1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:18.120 know is that you do need a good cellular connection 1:43:18.200 --> 1:43:20.720 where you are, because that's the primary way that these 1:43:20.720 --> 1:43:23.920 things connect in the event of an emergency. But they 1:43:23.920 --> 1:43:26.080 also the newer ones do have Wi Fi as well, 1:43:26.120 --> 1:43:27.920 so that's going to be the kind of default, and 1:43:27.960 --> 1:43:31.000 then it goes to cellular if the Wi Fi is 1:43:31.040 --> 1:43:33.720 not working or if it's out or something like that. 1:43:34.040 --> 1:43:36.679 And also if your power goes out, there's backup batteries 1:43:36.720 --> 1:43:39.280 inside the base station. So I think you're going to 1:43:39.360 --> 1:43:41.040 be okay. You said you have a nineteen I think 1:43:41.040 --> 1:43:44.280 you said a nineteen twenty two house, So I'm assuming 1:43:44.439 --> 1:43:47.360 the layout of this house is pretty simple, and you 1:43:47.400 --> 1:43:49.040 know it's got you know, a couple of windows, a 1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:51.760 couple of doors. Either one of these systems, I think 1:43:51.800 --> 1:43:52.920 you're going to be good with. So I would go 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:55.320 to their websites and just kind of compare the features 1:43:55.720 --> 1:43:58.240 and see what you want and then you know, of 1:43:58.280 --> 1:44:02.360 course the pricing as well, and Barbara, you'll be you know, 1:44:02.760 --> 1:44:05.320 feeling much more secure. I think that these systems do 1:44:05.439 --> 1:44:08.800 offer a level of security that you can't get without 1:44:08.880 --> 1:44:11.880 having one. All Right, I mentioned I was going to 1:44:11.960 --> 1:44:15.599 talk about some clip art websites that generate ai R instantly. 1:44:15.600 --> 1:44:17.320 I'll go through a couple of these. I tested them 1:44:17.320 --> 1:44:19.559 out for a segment on KTLA. So if you haven't 1:44:19.600 --> 1:44:22.599 tried these, you have to. You know, if you search 1:44:22.680 --> 1:44:24.720 for images, typically go to Google or you go to 1:44:24.760 --> 1:44:28.320 a clip art. These websites will actually generate an image 1:44:28.320 --> 1:44:31.800 on the fly using AI based on some keywords. So 1:44:31.920 --> 1:44:34.360 Dolly two is the one that started the trend. It 1:44:34.360 --> 1:44:37.360 comes from the same folks behind chat GPT. You type 1:44:37.360 --> 1:44:39.600 in a few words, it spits out some images. You 1:44:39.600 --> 1:44:42.320 can use them as you like, even for commercial purposes. 1:44:42.760 --> 1:44:44.800 You get a certain amount of free images every month. 1:44:45.200 --> 1:44:48.960 Then there's a website called dream by Wombo. These are 1:44:49.040 --> 1:44:51.200 very easy. You don't need to sign up or log in. 1:44:51.360 --> 1:44:53.599 You just type in a few words. You can download them. 1:44:53.760 --> 1:44:55.880 They may have a watermark on them, so be aware 1:44:55.880 --> 1:44:57.160 of that. You can always cut it out if you 1:44:57.160 --> 1:45:01.879 don't want. But Dream has apps for iOS and as well. Crayon, 1:45:02.120 --> 1:45:06.599 cr Aiyo n is also very easy. No sign up. 1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:09.400 Generating the images takes a bit longer, but you get 1:45:09.520 --> 1:45:11.920 nine images at once to choose from, and if you 1:45:12.040 --> 1:45:14.120 like them, you can print them on a T shirt. 1:45:14.280 --> 1:45:18.120 And finally, stable Diffusion is known for generating really high 1:45:18.240 --> 1:45:22.280 quality images, perhaps too high quality. Getty Images is actually 1:45:22.920 --> 1:45:25.000 suing them right now because they said they train their 1:45:25.040 --> 1:45:30.280 Ai model with some of their Getty images without being licensed. Now, 1:45:30.360 --> 1:45:32.759 Stable Diffusion is so popular you might get an error 1:45:32.760 --> 1:45:35.080 on your first try. I'll link all these up on 1:45:35.120 --> 1:45:38.160 the website rich on Tech dot TV. That's gonna do 1:45:38.240 --> 1:45:39.920 it for this week of the show. Thanks so much 1:45:39.920 --> 1:45:42.000 for listening. Next week, I'm going to tell you how 1:45:42.000 --> 1:45:45.880 people are making money doing other people's dirty laundry. You 1:45:45.920 --> 1:45:48.599 can find me on social media at rich on Tech. 1:45:48.640 --> 1:45:50.960 My name is rich Demiro. Thanks so much for listening. 1:45:51.000 --> 1:45:53.080 There are so many ways you can spend your time. 1:45:53.439 --> 1:45:56.120 I really do appreciate you spending it right here with me. 1:45:56.400 --> 1:45:57.439 I'll talk to you real soon