WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: Accountability with Kevin McCullough 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.320 Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:14.319 There's a meme my very literary teenage daughter likes. It 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.080 describes different literature styles by nationality. It goes like this, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.639 English literature, I will die for honor, French literature, I 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.560 will die for love, American literature, I will die for freedom. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.960 Russian literature, I will die. While I've spent the great 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.400 majority of my life in America, I was born in Russia, 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.240 and I still carry around that Russian stoicism and bluntness, 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.680 especially where death is concerned. The casual way I talk 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:48.400 about death really alarms my family. Can you not, they say, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.800 when I talk about death, the way I talk about 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.720 like anything else happening in the future, where I want 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.800 to be buried, what I'd like to see happen to 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.920 my stuff after I'm gone, etc. Or I read this 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:03.280 thing recently that's for so many people, the last words 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.880 they say before they die is calling out for their mama. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.600 I shared this with my husband and kids, and they 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.880 did not enjoy that. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:11.800 Update at all. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.119 I was thinking about how sweet it was for someone 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.840 in their nineties who hadn't seen their own mother in 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.320 decades to still feel. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.680 Her and want her when they're on their own deathbed. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:24.800 To me, that was a happy story. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.199 The faces of my family said that they didn't agree, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.480 and they didn't want to be thinking of their own 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.400 deaths and their mom long gone, so I try to 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.960 tone it down for them. But it is just interesting 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.399 to me how different cultures think or don't think about death. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.200 I'm scared of death, don't get me wrong. I want 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.080 to live a long life. I want to be with 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:46.920 my family. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:47.640 As much as possible. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.000 But to me, the whole point is having a limited 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.040 amount of time on this. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.400 Earth so that we can really appreciate what we have. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.440 My son sometimes asks me these would you rather questions, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.920 and one of them recently was would I prefer to 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.600 be twenty years younger today or live till three hundred? 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.280 I mean very much neither. I want to be right 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.520 here where I am. I don't want to be twenty 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.320 years younger. I like my current age and I love 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.520 my current life, and I don't want to live until 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.200 three hundred. I want to do everything I'm supposed to 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.160 do in the time I have and go to my 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.639 grave confident that I've maxed. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:26.800 Out my life in every way. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.200 This is a show about life and about making changes 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.880 to your life to improve it. So it's important to 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.840 think about the fact that life does come to an end. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.760 Did you spend it the way you intended to? Are 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.000 you making the changes to make it what you want 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.080 it to be? If we don't face the reality of 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.280 death that this all ends someday, what's our impetus to 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.160 improve our lives today? 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.480 As my kids get older, and the. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.360 Older two are coming up on fourteen and eleven in 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.280 a few weeks, and the youngest is eight, I'm trying 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.119 to hold on to real moments with them as long 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.320 as possible. I realized recently that so many of our 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.079 best memories are on vacation, and that's great, but life 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.079 isn't vacation, and I want more regular day memories together too. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.320 So We've started doing things like we read a book 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.800 together after dinner, something we haven't done since they were small. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.120 And I want to take family walks more often. We 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.600 live in Florida, the weather is usually perfect. We should 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.240 enjoy it like we would on vacation. The idea that 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.120 I will die someday propels me to live better. It 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.280 makes me want to waste less of my time to 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.120 focus on the things that matter to me and discard 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.440 the rest. Death doesn't have to be scary. It can 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.720 be the motivation that you need to live. Coming up 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:53.160 next and interview with Kevin McCullough. Join us after the break. Hi, 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.640 and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.200 My guest today is Kevin McCullough TV and radio, your 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.800 host columnist at townhall dot com. Kevin is also the 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.160 seer of political things, lover of the Dallas Cowboys, great food, yoga, 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.120 and one very stunning brunette. He didn't tell me to 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:15.640 say that he hosts that Kevin Show. Thanks for coming on, Kevin. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.479 Hey, Carol, it's great to see you, and congrats on 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.359 the podcast. It's just tearing up the internet and I 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:22.839 love it. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.040 Thanks so much. So. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.760 I've known you a long time and it's still fascinating to. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.359 Me that you've become a yogi. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.280 Is it fair to say that was a bit out 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:32.880 of character for you when that began? 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:35.039 Very much? 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.560 So? How did it happen? 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:42.239 We had moved, We moved three times in eight years 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.480 inside the same village, which is nuts. Why would anybody 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:45.719 do that? 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:46.479 Would anybody do that. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.040 But in the last move we left a house that 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.120 had a pool, and our kids were just starting to 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.760 get to the age where they needed to start taking 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:00.560 swim lessons, so we joined a local Lifetime They get 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.839 no money from me saying this, I get no money 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.720 from me saying this. But we joined the local Lifetime 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.480 workout place near us, and as part of the package, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.800 they had yoga classes and the stunning brunette of which 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.840 you spoke said to me, I think I want to 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.680 try those, because it's part of the basic package. And 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.360 I said, okay. She was going. This was before pandemic. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:29.000 She went probably fifteen or sixteen weeks. She had lost weight, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.920 she was vibrant with energy. She was feeling so good 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.400 and so confident about herself, and I said, I think 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.920 I want to give that a try too, to which 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:42.840 she promptly said, now this is my thing. So I said, oh, well, okay. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.760 Knowing that she was someone who did not like to 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.800 get up early, I knew that they had classes at 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.960 five point thirty and six o'clock in the morning. So 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.000 about a month later I started getting up mysteriously three 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.800 times a week and going and I was lost. I 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.320 didn't know anything about what I was doing. I used 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.400 to make fun of people that took yoga when I was, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:07.440 you know, in my athletic years. And I found out 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.480 it was not only one of the hardest things I'd 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.800 ever done, but it was also one of the most 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.680 rewarding things. And I met this great, great, great instructor. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.560 Her name is Lucy. Shout out to Lucy. She gave 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.960 me some one on one to kind of break down 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.760 what the poses mean and you know why they go 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.320 into order that they go in, cause I knew nothing, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.279 and about I don't know. Two months later, the brunette 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.720 rolls over to me one morning. She goes, why do 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.200 you get up so early? Where are you going? I said, well, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:38.960 I'm you know, I'm working out. She goes, why can't 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:40.680 you just go work out, you know when I go 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.200 to class? And I said, well, because I'm taking yoga. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.200 She goes, well, why didn't you just take it with me? 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.159 And I said, well, I didn't want to rain on 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:52.680 your parade. And so we started then taking regularly nine 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.360 forty five vinyasa flow classes. If people are into yoga, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:01.080 they know what vignasa is. It's a very aerobic, intense 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.240 kind of workout, but she get a lot of anaerobic 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.840 muscle training and other things and it as well. We've 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.520 been doing that now for four years, minus just a 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.800 few months that we had to kind of do it 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.880 remotely and other things because of the stupid COVID pandemic. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.920 But yeah, we've been doing it. And in fact, as 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.800 we are having a conversation at this very moment, she 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.360 is in that class that I am not getting to 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.640 be at because I am talking to Carol Markowitz. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.000 Wow. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your young. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:30.000 Glad to be it. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.040 So did you always want to be in radio? Is 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.440 that something lifelong dream or radio? 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:42.400 I mean, i've very very apprecient statement by an aunt, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.600 my mother's only sister. Actually, she says to me after 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.560 coming over to babysit one night, where I just literally 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.680 she I did to her what my Jonathan, my eleven 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.440 year old does to me. But I just talked her 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.240 ear off all night, and she literally turns to me 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.360 at one point and she goes, Kevin, as long as 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.440 you can make a living with that mouth of yours, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.520 you're never going to go hungry. I don't think she 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.360 meant it as a compliment, but it was efficient in 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.680 the degree. And then so after that my grand my 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.520 one grandfather, I was a collector of audio equipment, so 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.280 I had like these classic real to real machines. I 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.960 had cassette decks, I had old vinyl record players. I 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:27.200 had all kinds of stuff, and the kind of crim 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.760 to resistant. The piece to resistance was the day that 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 my grandfather let me have one of his old CBE 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:37.360 radios and I figured out how to input the audio 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.839 from my mixer into the CBE radio. I ran the 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.920 magnetic antenna up the rain gutter outside my window, stuck 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.120 it on top of the house, and began broadcasting on 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.680 Channel nineteen, which also happened to be the official channel 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.040 of the River Oaks Police Department. And they put my 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.920 Shenanigans to rest about six days later. But we had 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.120 some great, great show in those early days. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:02.480 It's excellent. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.320 What would you be doing if you weren't on the radio, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.440 If you weren't radio. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.360 Oh, well, I've done a lot of other things, so 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.240 I would probably be an entrepreneur of some sort. But 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.800 I also have a degree in theology, so I would 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.480 probably be involved in in ministry in some way and 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:23.160 trying to help people. My passion is people and making 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.440 sure that we leave them the best world we can. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.720 So it's probably something along those lines. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.520 Do you get recognized a lot? 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:29.800 Like? 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.200 What's it like leaving a pretty public life. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.200 I don't get recognized as much as my kids wish. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:36.640 I would. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.599 Believe me, my kids do not enjoy when I get recognized. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.360 But no, they want me. They like the fact that 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.880 I have a TV show and that I'm on the radio, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.520 and then I'm on all the other channels and stuff. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.959 They don't like the fact that almost none of their 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.600 parents agree with me on much of anything. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.440 Right Well, to Florida, I have an easy solution for 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.280 Suddenly my kids are much more popular. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:04.680 That's true their friends. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.200 I actually think it's not been a bad thing because 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:11.240 it's caused my children to kind of evaluate what I 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.559 say based on its merits and also a good exercise 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.000 in teaching them to be winsome. You know. I kind 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.400 of approach politics, Not that we're going to get into 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.320 politics here, but I kind of approach it as as 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.599 I would what some people use the term evangelical in 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.720 terms of faith. I want to be a positive advocate 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.840 for what I believe, and I want to win people 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.000 to the ideas that I hold, because I think the 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.320 ideas really are good and I think they really do 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.360 make a difference. So in doing it, winsome is not 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.480 something that our side does sometimes, very often. I don't 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.680 ever want to be questioning the number of eggs that 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.080 some pop stars still has in her womb somewhere. It's 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:51.440 not that that part of it's not. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:52.800 We'll get into Taylor Salt. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.320 Oh Man, you didn't tell me we're talking Taylor. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.760 Okay, of course we're talking Taylor. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:02.160 So do you worry about them your kids getting like 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.120 repercussions based on who you are? 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:04.240 Like? 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.320 There was a recent Abigail Shreier had wrote on her 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.120 substack recently that her daughter was cut from a soccer 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:15.040 team in California because of who she is, because the 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.000 coach simply doesn't like Abigail. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.200 I do worry about stuff like that. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:24.679 I have not worried about that, but I've felt the 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.480 nasty side of this. I have an adopted son who's 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.200 older than our biological kids, and when I was living 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.160 and working in Chicago before coming to the New York area, 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:40.120 we were in the middle of some pretty pretty tumultuous 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.400 constitutional questions at the time, and I was talking about 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.199 them on the air loot and I got an email 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.439 out of the blue from someone saying they knew what 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:54.360 school my child went to, and wow, you know what 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.320 entrance in the building he got dropped off at and 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:02.160 so forth. I took that seriously, reported it, got a 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.640 restraining order in place. I don't mess around with that stuff. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.520 I largely don't make reference to my family members by 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.439 name on the air. I know, I just gave my 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.880 eleven year old's name, but sometimes I do that, But 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.480 in large measure, I try to live as anonymously as 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.800 I can. Will that have repercussions for them at some point? 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.960 I hope not, because again, my goal is to engage 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.120 in conversation that is meant to convince and meant to win, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.520 not to always shove away and push away. There are 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.400 going to be unreasonable people that are going to say, no, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.520 I just can't be around you because you just discussed me. Okay, 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.760 I don't have to hang out with them, but where 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.160 I can build positive conversation, I'm always about trying, and 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.920 I think it's to our movements detriment that more people 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.800 don't try, Because I think there's a lot of people, Carol, 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.720 especially since your book came out and the pandemic happened. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.000 I think there's a lot of people in the middle 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.320 that don't know it exactly everything that they believe. But man, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.400 if we just had some good conversations and some winsome 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.920 people out there just making the case what good work 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:09.720 could be done. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.040 Yeah, I'm gonna have to look up the word win 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.319 some after this conversation. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:19.760 Oh yes, but no, I agree. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.600 I I you know, for the book tour, I had 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.360 a lot of people coming up to me and saying, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.000 you know, I'm not on your political side, or I'm 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.840 a liberal but or I'm a moderate or whatever. But 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.680 I think that these issues around children are really important, 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.079 and I agree with so much of what you say. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.560 And the thing is, and this is something that, like 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.560 I feel like, doesn't get discussed enough. A lot of 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.600 times you'll see people tweeting or writing you know, I 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.760 don't usually agree with blah blah blah, But who cares? 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.600 Who cares if you usually agree with them or not? 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.560 Just say it, Just say whatever it is. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:53.200 You don't need to. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.680 Qualify that normally you disagree with this person or the 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.600 other one that I really like is I don't always 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.600 agree with Kevin McCullough, but I don't always agree with 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.200 anybody ever, Like I don't have anybody ever that I 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:06.000 always agree with. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.439 That's crazy, and. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.040 I think that people need to kind of dial back 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.880 the idea that when you agree with somebody, you're signing 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.480 up for their whole You know. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.000 No, actually, I could be fine if nobody said used 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.200 any labels ever, Like if I would be totally totally 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.640 down with people saying I don't know if I'm a 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.080 Democrat or Republican, or a progressive or a conservative, but 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.400 what I believe about the money I earn is that 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.440 I should be able to keep as much of that 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.400 as is necessary to provide them for my family. You 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:39.160 take the ten biggest issues. Should a nation defend itself? 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.640 Should a nation protect its borders? Should a nation take 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.640 the money from the people that are working or let 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.720 them keep as much of it as possible. Should we 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.200 be kind to children? Should we be kind to seniors? 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.880 You take any of the big issues related to a 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.920 lot of this stuff, and you wipe the labels away, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.200 and you just talk about the substance this nation would 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.240 be overwhelmed considered Center right to write in terms of 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.360 just how they view the world. The issue is that 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.280 it is very easy to compartmentalize everybody if we can 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.920 label them all, and I think that that works to 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:13.520 our detriment. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.280 I definitely agree with that. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.920 So on your show, you're very and just generally in life, 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.280 you're very effusive about your wife. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.840 You clearly are obsessed with her. I love it. Do 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.720 you get any pushback or criticism for that? 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.640 I feel like I've seen in the last few years, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.440 especially around for men. I would say, especially for men 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.400 when they are like, like, oh, I really am so 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.520 in love with my wife, or like really talk about 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.760 their wives in a really positive way, they get called names. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.840 I don't know if you remember, there was the wife guy. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.040 It was like the guy that always mentions his wife. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.920 Like the New York Times had a whole piece on it. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.680 So do you get that criticism or not. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.400 No, I've gotten more compliments to that than anything, because 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.600 we just celebrated our twentieth wedding. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.600 Anniversary last year, so we've we've. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.920 Been around for a long time. But I would say 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:09.880 that people that do that kind of thing sadly probably 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.320 don't know the benefit of what a really strong marriage 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.760 partner brings to your life. Look, I'm gonna admit this 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.720 way up front, I way outkicked my coverage on my bride, 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.880 not just in how you know how attractive she is 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.240 and she is stunningly beautiful, though she doesn't believe that 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:33.720 she is. But she's a thinker, she feels deeply. She 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:38.040 is a wonderful mother. She manages our home and lives 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.920 almost effortlessly. I mean, I'm shocked at how easy she 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.480 makes it look. And at the end of the day, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:49.480 she's my deepest, dearest, best friend that can can and 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.600 will talk to me about anything, especially very very hard 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.800 things when we have very hard things to deal with. 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.480 And I can't put a dollar of value on anything 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.920 even similar to that by way of people in my 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.720 sphere of experience that have that. If I looked at 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.800 one person and said that person has made more of 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.720 an impact on me personally as a person than any 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.640 other person, it would be her. She edited all three 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.120 of my books. She regularly gives feedback on my column 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.879 and on my show. She is my pop culture critic 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.920 if I get if I get a pop culture reference wrong, 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.760 we do the assignment next weekend on the on the 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.840 TV show on the weekends. It's kind of like a 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.320 weekend update. But if I get an inference wrong on something, 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.000 She's like, you got to change that. I mean, it 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.760 just gives me all of those extra eyes, ears and 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:43.080 feedback that I wouldn't have otherwise. And that doesn't intimidate me, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.840 like I'm really grateful that that she's here. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.040 We're going to take a quick break and be right 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:49.600 back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:54.440 Do you feel like you've made it? 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.760 I was waiting for that question. I don't think I have, 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.119 And I was thinking about this because you told me 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.680 that you ask all your ask that question. I don't 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.000 think that I have. From this standpoint, I have had 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:10.480 seasons of really great happiness where growth and development have occurred, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.680 and I feel like, wow, is this it? Like did 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.760 I make it? And I find somewhere not long after 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.240 that feeling that there's always like, oh, I'd love to 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:25.560 try that. And so I would say I am way 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.600 further from where I started, but I've got so much 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.199 further to go in terms of what I would like 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.880 to see and accomplish and do. And I don't say 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.000 that in a selfish way. It's not that I feel 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:41.040 like I want to achieve a certain thing for me. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.840 It's like I have goals for my kids. I want 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.440 to see them successfully transition to adulthood and to start 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.000 lives that they find great satisfaction in peace with. I 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.080 want to make a bigger difference in the world around us. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:58.160 My listeners have liberated over the last five years, We've 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:04.040 liberated forty three hundred human slaves across the globe. We 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.679 have done relief work in places like Israel recently with 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:11.840 the conflict there. We've helped get people that don't have 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.480 homes homes. I feel like there's always more to do, 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.879 and so I feel like and I coach a lot 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.960 of talent TV and radio talent, and when I tell 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.040 them you're only as good as your last air check, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.919 that's really true. Whatever you just did by way of 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:31.359 your last presentation is what your current reputation rides on. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.800 So I'm always wanting to improve what I'm doing. I 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:36.880 have good mentors in my life that I seek out 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.159 advice from and feedback from, and then there's people that 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.840 I'm turning around and given that feedback back to as well. 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.800 So it's kind of like a never ending process. But 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.560 I figure a rolling stone gathers no moss, so why 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:49.400 not just keep going. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.560 I feel like we're missing a lot of that mentorship 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.720 in this country, where people, you know, take somebody younger 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.439 under their wing and show them how it's done. A 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:01.960 lot of it is also I think a lot of 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.199 people just feel like they know everything already, like, oh, 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.439 I have the Internet, like everything's available to me. I 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.000 already know all of it. But I think a good 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.679 mentor know that story that came. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.680 Out it's important last week or the week before about 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.920 gen z and hating nine to five jobs and how 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:16.360 they have no. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.040 Patience, Like that story comes out every few Oh my gosh. 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.639 It's like there's a whole generation of kids that not 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.560 only don't know how to do anything, but they don't 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.040