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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the

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Speaker 1: Backfield Thanks Flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross,

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Speaker 1: Victory Monday and Frisco Texas Welcome to the show. The

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Living Room Live and Frisco, thank your Wingstop

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Speaker 1: for bringing the show, this amazing show once again to

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Speaker 1: the people, the People's Choice Show. Today we celebrate victory.

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Speaker 1: We've only gotten to do that four times so far

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Speaker 1: this year. And it's a good feeling. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's even a better feeling, fellas. We actually get to

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Speaker 1: talk today because Jesse Holly is not on the show.

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Speaker 1: He had some business he had to take care of.

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Speaker 1: Jesse big time in US today, he is big time

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Speaker 1: in US. He is calling the Army Navy game. He's

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Speaker 1: the color announcer for the Army Navy game today. No,

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Speaker 1: he's not game. Oh it's not Blue Gray man, Blue Gray.

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Speaker 1: You've been hanging out with me. You've been hanging out

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Speaker 1: with me my bad. You've been hanging out with me,

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Speaker 1: brother Dodd. He made it to the college rinks? Bad?

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Speaker 1: What is that high school? High school all star game? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, good for Jesse. Great opportunity for Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I would I would ditch us too for an opportunity

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Speaker 1: like that. So how are we doing today? He would

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Speaker 1: do a good name. You're you, and I have ditched

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Speaker 1: you for far less. You were correct? So Nate, you

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Speaker 1: were actually almost right for once this season. It's been

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Speaker 1: a while. By twenty one points? Bro? What was they

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Speaker 1: beat them by twenty one point? So you call it

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Speaker 1: right on the money. Huh, yes, sir man, I call

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Speaker 1: you mom, I call miss missus Gross, say Nate spot

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Speaker 1: twenty one point? She well she's been spot on, Bro,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, miss Gross. Appreciate your girl. All right? So, Nate,

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Speaker 1: the question for you and Kurt now is was this just?

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I think we can all agree. Two

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Speaker 1: bad teams? Right? One that's one. One great teams they won,

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Speaker 1: one that it won, two one that it won three

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Speaker 1: two bad teams. But you still did what you should do.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, it is hard to win games, especially

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Speaker 1: on the road, no matter how bad the team is,

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Speaker 1: even if they have a backup quarterback that's playing that

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Speaker 1: kind of came up lane in the fourth quarter with

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Speaker 1: a look like a leg injury. But you still went

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Speaker 1: up there. You took care of business. Your defense actually

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Speaker 1: created some turnovers. Your offense was able to move the ball.

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Speaker 1: Your defensive, you know it bent, but it didn't break.

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Speaker 1: You did what you should do, and you went up

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Speaker 1: there and you won, and you won handily. Is this

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Speaker 1: a game, Nate, I'll ask you first, a game that

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Speaker 1: they can build on that they've got some confidence now,

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Speaker 1: or is this just an example of a bad team

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Speaker 1: beating a team that was a lot worse. Well both, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're does not create teams, But whenever you

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Speaker 1: some success with those journals, and that's what really got

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Speaker 1: this team going those early three three possessions, three churnals,

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Speaker 1: and so this team got excited. They played well, they

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Speaker 1: more minium towards next year. And so this is a start.

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Speaker 1: This is what you need, and this gives the club

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Speaker 1: So hopefully this is the start of something. At least

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Speaker 1: get three ten overs there in the first half in

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Speaker 1: the first three series. Hey, this kid had fun yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He threw that ball. Did you see that money threw

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Speaker 1: Is it not, Guys, is it not Curt the guy

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Speaker 1: we bragged on? Yeah? Yeah, we expected them to come

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Speaker 1: he's the offense is finding a little something. The defensive

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Speaker 1: you don't know how sweet a victory is you. You know,

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Speaker 1: sticking it to us, and now the first thing they'll say,

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Speaker 1: it's what Shannon said, and what I've said, the youth saiker, Hey,

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Speaker 1: then and then the arrogant cowboy offensive. Well, that's why

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Speaker 1: like it's about like the Army Navy game. You know,

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Speaker 1: would I would make sure you get this guy back

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Speaker 1: at this point in time. Great great comments, Shannon, great comments, Man,

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Speaker 1: this team. But that is a great thought, Shannon, that

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Speaker 1: the fact that you are a Cowboy fan just about

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Speaker 1: what you just stated. You don't went from not going

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Speaker 1: I say, Shanna, you can find defeating victory. Yeah, I agree, Sia.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea. It'd be nice to have him.

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Speaker 1: And you got to think the starting quarterback market isn't

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Speaker 1: he's obviously a proven veteran, but I mean there's just

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Speaker 1: And I hope we don't lose a few of these

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Speaker 1: guys the trades of agentcy Man. Because you got some depth.

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Speaker 1: You have some depth, some tremendous depth. What makes it, Nate?

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the positions that from a

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Speaker 1: because you just think of offensive and defensive lineman. As

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Speaker 1: you block, you set up and you block. What's in

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Speaker 1: front of you, or on defense, you just you go

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback or you stay in your gap. Like

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Speaker 1: what makes an offensive line coach a good coach being

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Speaker 1: able to reach out and his teaching skills has to

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Speaker 1: be phenomenal because you're working with five guys trying to

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Speaker 1: have them on one page. So your teaching skills have

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Speaker 1: to be phenomenal. And you have to be very, very consistent.

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Speaker 1: You can't be a bad person one moment, a screaming

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Speaker 1: though all those things you'll go through through in a season.

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Speaker 1: But you got to be the most consistent person in

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Speaker 1: in your player's mind. Your system and your techniques have

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Speaker 1: to be the greatest because you got to get five

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Speaker 1: guys to believe to hook up in this way, and

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Speaker 1: how you teach that and how you get that across

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Speaker 1: it is more important. And then the ability to jet

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Speaker 1: to adjusting games when when you've told these guys that

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Speaker 1: both guards, you're gonna have a guy over your head

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Speaker 1: and a guy outside I depending on the strength where

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Speaker 1: the tight end at these guys are gonna shift one

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Speaker 1: way or another and then all of a sudden, both

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Speaker 1: of these guys sitting up over your head. But in

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Speaker 1: the a gaps, you gotta be able when they come

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Speaker 1: to side as the coach and ain't like this is

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Speaker 1: like this and like that, and be able to relay

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Speaker 1: that up to your offensive order to say, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: this play, this play and this play won't work. But

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Speaker 1: we got to go to this, this and this and

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Speaker 1: then relay that back down to your players. So you

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Speaker 1: got five guys you got to stay connected to on

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Speaker 1: has seen some improvement. He really struggled kind of beginning with,

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Speaker 1: but they've been helping him more too as far as

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Speaker 1: sounds like, with you know, shifting and chip blocks and

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Your offensive coordinator is getting better

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Speaker 1: and better. Man. Okay, So yes, that's what I was asking.

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Speaker 1: Is the offensive line coach setting that up or is

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Speaker 1: it the coordinator? Yes, sir, both, I mean you you

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Speaker 1: you truly when you lose your starting quarterback and you

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame stuff that, uh, your your level

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Speaker 1: the way the Cowboys have messed And I ain't saying

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Speaker 1: messed up because at the time we thought it was great.

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Speaker 1: But when this guy's making fifteen million a year and

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Speaker 1: this guy making seven hundred and fifty a year, that

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Speaker 1: talent is like that too. So now you dropped from

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Speaker 1: fifteen meal or twelve million a year down. So it

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Speaker 1: guy is making seven hundred and fifty. You know he's

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Speaker 1: not that that that good. Well, this offensive line coach

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Speaker 1: got to figure that out and relay this and say,

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Speaker 1: hey man, we can't do this. We can't leave this

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Speaker 1: guy by himself at the beginning of a game. It's

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Speaker 1: all about confidence. Don't leave him naked at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the game against the Cleveland great defensive end. You

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Speaker 1: can't do that. He's gonna get what happened to this

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Speaker 1: kid was you left him naked. And you shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: done that the first the first fifteen to twenty to

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Speaker 1: thirty places. You should have always had some type of blanket.

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Speaker 1: And people say, well, it's the game he's got to learn, No, sir,

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Speaker 1: he's got to learn and get your quarterback kill. No,

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Speaker 1: that ain't the way you do it. You know, you

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Speaker 1: protect quarterback. One first you get what I'm saying, and

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Speaker 1: then as the game go on and he get a

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Speaker 1: rhythm and he get a feel for what this guy

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Speaker 1: doing to him from what he's seen on the film,

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Speaker 1: then you give him something by yourself. But I think

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Speaker 1: coach film and especially Kellen Moore has gotten better and

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Speaker 1: maybe coach coach mccarthur stepped in and helped him. But

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Speaker 1: he's calling games better against good defenses and not so

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Speaker 1: good devise. He's called the game better than last I

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Speaker 1: think three out of the four games or four out

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Speaker 1: of the five games he's he's done a he's done

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Speaker 1: a better job, and the offensive line has done. But

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Speaker 1: I just and another thing, while we own it, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: I think we should have started uh the rookie. They

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Speaker 1: say he's back, be hoddest I think we should have

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Speaker 1: started him. Thank you, Yeah, because uh he did, he

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Speaker 1: did nothing wrong to lose his job. You gave it

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Speaker 1: to him. And you know, and I understand Looney's a veteran,

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Speaker 1: he's savvy, but uh, you know, if you got a

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Speaker 1: guy that's that's acclimated to the game now playing, because

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Speaker 1: that's who you start next year, I hope, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: guess I thought maybe they didn't start him just because

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Speaker 1: Martin wasn't in there, and so they didn't want all

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Speaker 1: those young guys in a row. You know, man, come on,

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Speaker 1: this this was Cincinnati, man. I mean, ain't had to

525
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Speaker 1: downplay Scinati. But you know, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just believe this right here, and Coach

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Speaker 1: Johnson all that is this, if if the old guy

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Speaker 1: and the young guy equal, what do you got to lose? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know that's true? Yet go ahead, no, goat Kirk Well,

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna chanting. It mentioned earlier about how

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Speaker 1: Pard shared carries. Is that something that I mean part

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Speaker 1: of that was due to a Zeke is kind of

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Speaker 1: now today's NFL, we should be at running a running

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Speaker 1: back by committee. Do you think that's something that Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll see more going forward. I promise you, man,

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Speaker 1: Zeke gonna cost you a lot of money to kick

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Speaker 1: want this back by committee. I've never been against back

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Speaker 1: stock value raised more? Tony Pollard or Dalton Schultz so

640
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: far this season? Well? I think Dalton Schultz just because

641
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: we really had no idea who he was or what

642
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: he could do. I think with Pollard we at least

643
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: we kind of knew that talent was there. We knew

644
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: it was more about opportunities, and so you're right, he

645
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: did kind of have some miscues at the start of

646
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: the season that kind of left your wondering some But

647
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: I think he's really come on strong and we're seeing

648
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: the type of player that we knew was there. I

649
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: guess I really thought his his touchdown is I'm not

650
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: a touchdown, but his kickoff return at the start of

651
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: the second half, I think that was kind of the

652
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: turning point of the game because, you know, the Bengals

653
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: had scored right before the half. They had a little

654
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: momentum going. Like we had said earlier, you know, the

655
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys really weren't slowing them down that much. They've just

656
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: been able to have some turnovers. But when Paulard came

657
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: out and returned that kick off, it really brought a

658
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: spark and kind of changed everything back their way. Getting

659
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: back to Schultz, though, I mean, who would have thought this.

660
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: We thought he would be lucky to hardly be on

661
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: the field. He'd be the second string tight end, and

662
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, we just didn't know anything about him. But

663
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: he's really showed what he can do and it's kind

664
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: of exciting. If we could get Charming back healthy, maybe

665
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: they'll finally have that one two tight end punch they've

666
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: been talking about for years. They should have two quality

667
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: guys who can catch the ball. So for me, it's

668
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: it's Scholtz just because he kind of came out of

669
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: nowhere in some ways. What about you, Nate, I'm with you.

670
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm with you, man. I mean you can give it

671
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: to either one of them. Just a great job of

672
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: it once again. You know you got to get coach

673
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: Pete his hats hats off to him and running back

674
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know the tight ends coach name, but

675
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: nice job, I mean real nice job. And you know

676
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: one thing, kell Him Moore. See, this is what we

677
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: lacked last year in several years before. Kevin Kell Him Moore,

678
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm throwing you the ball, bro. You might have gonna

679
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: get ready to run your routs and catch it because

680
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: if you come open and see, it's all about repetition

681
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: and being able to play. Keller Moore is not gonna

682
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: stop running his offense. One thing I've loved about him

683
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: is he suggested as we went on, as he's gained experience,

684
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: but have y'allah. I think y'all both will agree, young man,

685
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: that he's not shop running that ball and throwing that

686
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: ball around and if you become open, he expects for

687
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: you to catch it. And when a receiver knows that

688
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: tight end wise, running back wise, they're gonna do their job.

689
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: They're gonna do their best to get open to big

690
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: this representable to the quarterback. True. Yeah, I want to

691
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: say Tony Pollard just because I've been beating that drum

692
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: since his rookie year, and I think with the value

693
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: that he adds, I mean, we've special teams. Is exciting now,

694
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: like we it's been a long time since you since

695
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: you've been able to, you know, have the possibility of

696
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: somebody breaking a play. And with CD on punt returns,

697
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: with with Pollard on kick returns, now, I think there's

698
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: a real possibility every time they touched the ball that

699
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: you can you can get one of those sixty yard returns,

700
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: or you can get somebody that has the capability of

701
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: taking one to the house. So I really want to

702
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: say Pollard, but I think Dalton Schultz, we all thought

703
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: he was just a blocking tight end. That was all

704
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: he was ever gonna be his You know, I don't

705
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: know how much longer I expected him to be on

706
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: this team. You never heard anything about his past catching ability,

707
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: his route running, so, like you said, Kurt, completely out

708
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: of left field, that he is able to be able

709
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: to turn in this type of performance as far as

710
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: receiving and got some pretty darn good hands man. I mean,

711
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: he he snags a lot of stuff that comes at

712
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: him so um and he's able to turn it up

713
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: field him and get some yards after the catch too.

714
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Shorts. I love Polar, but

715
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Schortz. You know what his saving

716
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: grace was. He was the end of view by Kurt

717
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Nah correct your career. What do you think that Schultz

718
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: has been? Do you think he's provided what you expected

719
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: from Jarman? Or has he been better? Has he been worse?

720
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you I expected? I expected this

721
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: from Jarring, and I expected better, I thought as the

722
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: season went on, especially after if he would have been

723
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: there and that would have got hurt, Oh my god,

724
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: him and him in the red rifle boy getting down

725
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: that scene and then strong as his arm is and

726
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: as accurate as he'd been the last few games. Who

727
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: it would have been nice. I mean, yeah, make sweet man.

728
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Schultz is uh been targeted seventy three times. He has

729
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: fifty one receptions for five hundred ten yards and three touchdowns,

730
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: and you got what three games left, so he's probably

731
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: gonna finish around six hundred, six hundred and fifty yards.

732
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: You would imagine, I I I expected about eight hundred

733
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: yards from from Jarwin and probably about five to six touchdowns.

734
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: I may have overvalued him a little bit, but that's

735
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: that's that's what I was expecting you did. So I

736
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: would say Schultz is a little bit of a downgrade,

737
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: but but definitely a huge upgrade from what I expected

738
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: him to be as the starting tight end. So yeah,

739
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I thought that. I think he's where

740
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: Jarwin probably would. I mean, if you could get you know,

741
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: sixty catches six hundred yards from Jarwin, I think that

742
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: would have been expected given the other talent. Now, two things. One,

743
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, if Prescotta and healthy the whole year, you

744
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: might have sent better numbers from Schultz. I do think

745
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: that Jarwin probably would have had an opportunity, I don't know,

746
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: maybe better in the red zone, more touchdowns, But overall

747
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: it's you can't complain at all. I mean, no, it

748
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: has been. I think the thing, the thing that I

749
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: would value Jarwin more than Schultz is I have seen

750
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: Jarwin run the seam route. I've seen Jarwin make you know,

751
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: big catches for a lot of yards, and I haven't

752
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: really seen Schultz, you know, get those big twenty plus

753
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: yard catches. He's more of a control type guy. You're

754
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: you're five to ten fifteen yard guy. And I've seen Jarwin,

755
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, example, the Giants game, what was that last

756
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: year or year before last, I can't remember where he

757
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: had the three touchdowns and just yeah, you know, he's

758
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: been He's able to stretch the field a little bit more.

759
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: I think than Schultz. I would probably still give it

760
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: to Jarwin. So I'd say, Lady said Jim, you know,

761
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: because y'all know, I've been very critical about offensive coordinator

762
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Man and still lives in certain certain instances. Man, But

763
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: this guy has grown, Man, And I would like to

764
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: see with us having a better defense or more defense

765
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday that took advantage of opportunities of

766
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: strips and taking the ball. Just think, man, if we

767
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: could have been getting that type of productivity from our

768
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: defense for us turning the ball over. What's what's kind

769
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: of happened there? Because the first nine games they had

770
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: seven turnovers and now in the last four they've got

771
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: seven turnovers. Are they doing something different? Are they focus?

772
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: They are comfortable getting the break? Yeah, they're comfortable. When

773
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: you become comfortable, you become confident because you know where

774
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: you're supposed to line up in what you're doing. Either

775
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: the coaches simplified it and they've gotten to end their

776
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: grasp it quicker. Are they are starting settling into what

777
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: the coach coach won't done, you know? And they're comfortable

778
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: because Darian Thompson has made plays in the last two weeks.

779
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: As before were looking at this kid like what in

780
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: the world? Now he's made plays? You agree? I mean so, uh,

781
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: these guys are getting comfortable, they're making plays and in

782
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: LOI behold, Yeah, we're not gonna it's Cincinnati. Yeah, it's Cincinnati,

783
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: but it's an NFL team. It is an NFL team

784
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: with two nice wide receivers three if you're gonna count greens.

785
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: If he come back to full form before the end

786
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: of the season. Bernard is a Geovanni. Bernard is a

787
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: nice out of the backfield throwing the ball too type guy.

788
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: The officive line is okay, nothing special. Defensive line is okay,

789
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: nothing special. Got a nice safety in in Bates. I

790
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: hope somehow we can get him. I mean, he's a

791
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: nice thumper, he's a nice playmaker. Got three under seven.

792
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: So this team is not great and their coach, well,

793
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: the turnovers was weird for them yesterday. Believe me, their

794
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: coach was like, I can't believe this. You know, we

795
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: just handing them the game. And sometimes you get a

796
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: game handed to you now, but you still got to

797
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: be man enough to win that game when his handed

798
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: to you. That Cowboys were Kurt. I don't know if

799
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: this is breaking news, but uh Stephen Jones had some

800
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: comments this morning on the fan that you talked about

801
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: during the during the break off the air. You want

802
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: to elaborate on those, Yeah, I don't think it's a

803
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: huge surprise. He just said that there's no way that

804
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna get rid of McCarthy so Ard

805
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: be back. Yeah, he said, given everything they've gone through

806
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: this season, they still have high hopes for the future

807
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: under McCarthy and what's ahead. It sounds like he did

808
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: kind of leave the door open to some staff changes

809
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: on among the assistants, but which I don't think would

810
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: be a huge surprise to us either. But he didn't

811
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: make it pretty clear that McCarthy's not going anywhere. You know, me, me,

812
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I would be grudgingly changing staff members. I would unless

813
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: you're going to go back to the fourth three system,

814
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to continue to push forward

815
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: to a three to four high pri system that you're

816
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: in the majard the time, you know, I wouldn't be

817
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: quick to change out everybody. You know, I would be

818
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: slow to do that. I would because now guys are

819
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: beginning to understand what's going on. You got a plethora

820
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: of guys that have played. Now you go out and

821
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: you draft the right guys, and you keep it simpler

822
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: early in the season, don't. The disappointing thing is if

823
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: we draft guys in the top four and it's a

824
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: couple of defensive players and they are not on the

825
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: field on day one, that is a very very disappointed thing.

826
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Then you should fire the whole staff, because you do

827
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: not in this situation where you are setting record pace

828
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: on defense of being bad, that you're telling me that

829
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: we can't get these guys, and that you're drafting the first, second,

830
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: and third round the opportunity to play. Yeah, don't. That's

831
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: a great point. They don't be surprised if the Cowboys

832
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: go on a four game winning street to close out

833
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: the season, because not only are players, not only are

834
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: players playing for their job, coaches are playing for their

835
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: jobs too. So you know this isn't just like it's

836
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: the last three games, we're out of it, let's just

837
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: go play. They are on a three game job interview

838
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: going into this final stretch, So do not be surprised

839
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys play lights out. One more team, the

840
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. We win, and I told I told somebody

841
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: to say, I said. The day we won, I said,

842
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: I watched them find the life to win a game. Yeah,

843
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: against New Orleans too. Come on, man, for real, for real,

844
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: we win a game and all of a sudden, they

845
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: beat a top top ranked defense, smash them with the

846
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: with with their backup quarterback. Thank you, I'm sating to myself.

847
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: They must be from Louisiana, man and miss miss miss

848
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: girls mother for some of that whods do on them

849
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: brought him back to life. Come home, gotta do something

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Speaker 1: big shout out to our guy Kyle Yeoman's him. He

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Speaker 1: Kyle Kyle was an intern for us, that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: go places and just Kyle, remember the little guys here

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Speaker 1: at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Whenever he got us bust

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Speaker 1: won't bust them up. Good job, Kyle, Congratulations man, good job,

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Speaker 1: so fellas. It's been fun to actually talk on the

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Speaker 1: on Jesse. But I do, miss Jesse. The show is

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Speaker 1: better with you back. Jesse. I have to start back

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Speaker 1: having fun. I hate to come on here. Yes, good show, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: good show, Chris Bean. Thanks for keeping us on the

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Speaker 1: air and doing your job. We miss Call of Duty.

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Speaker 1: Baby back tomorrow, Victory by Day. We'll be back tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Victory Tuesday. I'll hang it with the boys. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: then the dolls bark Kurt. Who Yeah, I have a

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