1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: MIA's fiance was right behind him. He didn't even know 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Jay had arrived because he was bartending inside the house, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: and this is how he found out. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Jay was there. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Not sure how he didn't no sooner because where the 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: heck did Jay get the alcohol if not at the 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: makeshift bar in the kitchen anyway, So he basically grabbed 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Jay by the back of his dress shirt and started 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: to force him outside. We encouraged a few people who 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: saw to keep partying and followed him to make sure 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: he didn't end up catching a case before we saw 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: him literally throwing up in a tub those big water 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: containers for animals. Jay shot himself out of there and 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: fell flat on his booty in the dirt, yelling. Mia 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: was full on solving at this point. Yes, she was 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: with us and all of this. When all of this 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: went down, Jay started mumbling crap, and Mike took him 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: off somewhere, according to him, calling Jay a car service 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: because his phone was drenched and ruined. Mia was pretty 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: much sober through most of this and remembers things better 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: than the rest of us. Apparently, she did have a 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: brief interaction with Jay when the rest of us were 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: off doing something. He just kind of looked over and 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: rolled his eyes before walking off. According to her, we 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: also found out earlier today that Jay was heard talking 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: about me as social media post with a few people there. 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to look into this further. 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: He's just trying to tell anyone who will listen to him. Yeah, 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: like you wouldn't believe this. 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: She has blocked him on everything at the ask of 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: her partner because of all this. I personally don't want 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: to speak to Jay anymore. After everything, I don't want 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: a friend like this, and I don't want friends who 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: stick around people like this. Emily and Mike feel the same, 35 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: while Evan wants to talk it out. 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: With Jay when sober. 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: When sober first and see what all this is really about. Truly, 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: I regret even being dumb enough to let him stick around, 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: and feel me and Emily messed up by even giving 40 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: him a chance to be around. I now think we 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: should have made him leave from the start. I will 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: post if we make more discoveries about last night. For now, 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm getting a headache to leave and need a door 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: dash And there is another update. 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: Man, I man, Jay doesn't quit. 46 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Jay doesn't quit. 47 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: He's just constantly and it's it's honestly so not fitting. 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: But like, I don't admirable how much he doesn't quit. Now, 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't just how terrible he was doing the things 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: that he doesn't quit. 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I feel like a lot of 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: times with people who virtue signal this hard, they do 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: end up being. 54 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: Like the worst people. 55 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, just like you know, he's being super misogynistic now, 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: and so it's like there's always you know, the people 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: who go so hard are pretty hateful. 58 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Well, it's because he's just worried about the perception of 59 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: being kind. 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: Rather than that than actually being kind. Yeah, and inclusive. 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: But we got an update, man, man, oh man. 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: So we might be at the end of the road. 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: My friends, my friends, Jay's friend resurfaced for his car 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: a few hours ago. A lot to get into, but 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: let's just say his family almost got the police involved. 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, because he went missing for nearly twenty 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: two eighty. 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: Was a friend A presumably the friend, because they said 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: that the friend left without his car and they were like, man, 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: we don't know where he went. 71 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, I look at the friend. 72 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out the reason he left was not 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: because of wastedness, but because he would have caught a 74 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: case if he hadn't and coming back to get his car. 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: As we all were cleaning up from the Boo bash, 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: he stopped by to spill a few beans on himself. 77 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to spill a few 78 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: beans with us, you can join us live on YouTube 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: and Facebook every weekday at three pm PSD. 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: Just a tap hour profile. 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm confused, what's going on? The friend came back to 82 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: spill beans about. 83 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: See what I feel like. 84 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm living in actual TV drama and I might need 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: a sleeping pill. Any suggestions. I feel a migrain coming on, 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: and you might two After this? Here comes more. This 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: is so fake comments, Get ready for it. So Jay 88 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: has been having an affair with his best friend's wife. 89 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: What Before his friend found out about the set affair, 90 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Jay confided to him a few struggles of his own 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: prior to the discovery, including that he was not only 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: informed he needed to seek a new practice to complete 93 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: his medical internship or whatever you call what they were 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: doing for MS. But what Jay said he was doing 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: in the bathroom. 96 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: Oh oh, I knew it. He was sleeping with people. 97 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: Waait he because Okay, so you remember Jay the whole time, 98 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: was like Mia wasn't one of like the supervisors was like, 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: where's Jay? 100 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: Where's Jay? 101 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: And Jay was always like, Oh, I'm in the bathroom. 102 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: I have to go help the nurses with someone. I 103 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: bet he was sleeping with people. That's why he was 104 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: taking so long. 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: So Jay has a self diagnosed spicy sleep addiction, and 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: he claims Jay said Jay was said to have been 107 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: beating it off with camgirls on the hub. 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: Damn. 109 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: He also said Jay had a thing for me about 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: a year ago, and then she met her fiance and 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: their engagement about a month ago has sent him into 112 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: a full spiral ever since. So he actually liked Mia. 113 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 114 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: Along with that, he actually has had Jay's wallet this 115 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: whole time, So who knows how the man paid his 116 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: ride home wherever he went. If this was not my life, 117 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: I wouldn't believe this crap. But honestly, it's starting to 118 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: make sense. He says he learned about Jay and his 119 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: wife's affair because Jay was so wasted and out of it. 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: At one point, him being a dumbass he was, gave 121 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: him his phone to take a picture of Jay and 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Evan in the corner of his camera roll was a 123 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: completely bare image this man's wife. I don't know what 124 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: else to say, but what the actual f And this 125 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: is probably the end of the updates because I've learned 126 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: too much in my involvement with these people. Probably ends here. 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Maybe who knows this man is insane narcissist. Possibly goodbye 128 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: my friends. 129 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: But that's not part Part five. Man, oh man, A 130 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: lot just happened in that last chunk. Yeah, I was 131 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: kind of what I did, kind of. 132 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: I was not ready for that chunk. 133 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: I kind of thought maybe Jay was like sleeping with 134 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: people while he was going on those long breaks. 135 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: But no, you don't got enough time to do that. 136 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: But well, I guess he wasn't. 137 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: It's just going Yeah, he was just whacking. 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he was sleeping with his friend's wife do. 139 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: The one friend he had, Yeah, and imed his whole 140 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: social life. 141 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: His whole life is gone. 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: But Part five you ready for it? Were locking in? 143 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: I'm locked in. 144 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: I suspected this would not be over, and I was right. 145 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: I hadn't realized it at the time, because, as I've 146 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: said before, no one was all that close to Jay's 147 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: friend zach My, Emily got curious and looked up Zach's 148 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Facebook again because she got to thinking, she was like, 149 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: you know, aren't they having a baby? Like actually didn't 150 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: get where she was coming from at first, but the 151 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: gasp that left my body sweet baby Jesus, baby Jesus. 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: Yes. 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: According to his cheating wife's public post, she is expecting. 154 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: She is almost six months along. Now let me leave 155 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: you with this image because it is in my head 156 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: and I am telling you all about this chaos. You're 157 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: going to have to live with it too. Zach's visibly 158 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: pregnant wife, belly and all, was having an affair with 159 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: his best friend for unknown amount of time, and that 160 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: poor man found out about it via the image of 161 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: said wife, who we can only assume if it was recent, 162 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: included that baby bump. What the actual hell? I'm not 163 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: sure it gets much worse, but I'm honestly scared to 164 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: say that, because it just keeps going. Speaking of which, 165 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: Mia took your advice and sends an email to the 166 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: supervising physician and the management at said practice. Emily helped 167 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: her type it up, so basically says Jay is a 168 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: sicko and a psycho who may try to ruin my 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: reputation in a more professional manner. I forgot to mention 170 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: Zach left the wallet with us last night because he 171 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: refuses to see j But we do too, So how 172 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: the heck is he getting that back? 173 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: We do not know. 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: Maybe just mail it to him. 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, mail it straight into the sun. 176 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes money. 177 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: Mail it out, as Dakota would say. 178 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Put in the tribute, Shay fling. 179 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: It, bling it, fling it towards him. I edit it 180 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: into last update. But Jay also is a self diagnosed 181 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: spicy sleep addict, and I forgot to add that is 182 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: why Zach said he was beating it in the bathrooms. 183 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Oh and prayers for cocoa puff Evan's Golden Doodle because 184 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: she's apparently sick. I'm logging off for the day, so 185 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: if anyone has questions, you can ask, but you will 186 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: be waiting on an answer. 187 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: I do have an actual job, my friends. Goodbye and good. 188 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: Morning, good morning, good evening, and good night. 189 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: And that is where the episode ends. And we really 190 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: went from like I was not ready for all that unlocked. 191 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, attacking a person for not knowing about you know, 192 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: a slur. It's a full on cheating. 193 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Really, I thought we were just gonna all get had 194 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: like a nice little education, but uh, it's Reddit. You 195 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: can never just you can never just get a good thing. 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: But if you like this good thing, make sure to subscribe. 197 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: We love your good thing. 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: Smorrow. 199 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives, Time 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: for Okop. 201 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: I woke up in a hospital to a fifty five 202 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: thousand dollars bill. Now I'm broke, so I want to 203 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: get the money back by any means necessary, my da hole. 204 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: I was in Nassas, Bahamas and I'm guessing that's the Bahamas, 205 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: and suffered a stroke unexpectedly. I'm young, low thirties and 206 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: an overall pretty active and healthy and so a stroke 207 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: was the last thing I would expect to happen at 208 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: this time my life. 209 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah that sucks. 210 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awful. 211 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: So when the stroke hit the left side of my body, 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: I went limp. I wasn't able to talk, walk, or function. 213 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: It is similar to being paralyzed and all around sucks. 214 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: I imagine it sucks a lot. Yeah, I would not 215 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: recommend a stroke to any The hotel thankfully called an ambulance, 216 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: which brought me to a hospital. And here's where the 217 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: fun begins. Ladies and gentlemen, Step right. 218 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: Up, Step right up. On's listen to the story. 219 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: My girlfriend, let's call her Tea, went to give them 220 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: my health insurance card when I was admitted, which covers 221 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: me internationally. But the hospital refused my insurance and said 222 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: I don't have and insisted on a cash payment or 223 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: they would not treat me. Wow, when you're having a stroke, 224 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: minutes count. So she gave them whatever they wanted to 225 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: treat me. This is when Tea gave them my credit card. 226 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Important note t is not an authorized card holder on 227 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: my credit card account. She does not have her own card, 228 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: nor is she an authorized signer or user on my account. 229 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: She simply went into my wallet while I was unconscious 230 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: and gave it to them, so I was not able 231 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: to step in and deal with the situation. I woke 232 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: up hours later to Tea crying by my bedside. She 233 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: was explaining to me the situation even though I was conscious. 234 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: I was not able to process nor had the energy 235 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: to respond. She was explaining that they would chase her 236 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: down the hallway for five thousand, ten twenty thousand at 237 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: a time whatever they could, as if buying a used car. 238 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: Wow. 239 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: It was surreal and makes me so mad, but she 240 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: did not have any other options at the time. She 241 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: notified my parents, who showed up a day later. My 242 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: father was raising hell about them not taking my insurance 243 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: when he arrived, but it was not the time to argue, 244 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: and he made arrangements to get me back to the States. 245 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: So they're charging him up the wazoo. 246 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is insane. 247 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: He is not an authorized user on my credit card account. 248 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: But she was doing what she thought was best for 249 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: me while trying not to let me die. I think 250 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: anyone else would have done the same, which I mean, like, 251 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: what else do you do in this situation? 252 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: There really is nothing else except trying to perform the 253 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: surgery yourself. 254 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: Exactly, you know, just do the open heart surgery on 255 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: your own, pull up a YouTube video and freaking do it. 256 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Come on, Long story short, I was transported via air 257 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: ambulance back to the States Pompano Beach, Florida, where my 258 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: health insurance took over. And now the dust has settled, 259 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: I have fifty five thousand dollars in charges on my 260 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: credit card from said hospital in the Bahamas. 261 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: Wow, oh my god. 262 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: I have spoken to my insurance company and they said 263 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: the hospital should have taken the insurance when I was admitted, 264 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: but the hospital prefers cash because insurance companies will pay 265 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: discounter rates, whereas cash out of pocket is subject to 266 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,479 Speaker 1: whatever the hospital charges. The insurance company will not reimburse 267 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: me for the full amounts, as that is not what 268 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: they would have paid the hospital since T is not 269 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: an authorized user and she signed all the credit card receipts. 270 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: I already attempted to charge back the charges, but the 271 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: credit card company has rejected this as a claim, stating 272 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: I have benefited from the services at the hospital and 273 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: it's not considered frost. I'm not trying to sift the 274 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: hospital on their bill. Rather, I want my money back 275 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: and have my health insurance company pay them what they 276 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: should have been paid. My blood foils knowing that they 277 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: chased a grieving, emotional girl for money. Knowing what they 278 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: were doing, they took complete advantage of the situation. So 279 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: does anyone out there have any advice or work for 280 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: Bank of America Disputes Department that can help guide me anyway? 281 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Or should I bother contact your lawyer in the Bahamas. 282 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: I assume I have to deal with an attorney over 283 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: there and not here. 284 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Correct. 285 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: If so, a contact or advice on how to find 286 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: one over there would be great. Complete side notes on 287 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: where I'm at today. I'm in rehab full time and 288 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: started walking a few weeks ago for the first time, 289 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: and since the stroke. It's not a pretty walk but 290 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: gets me around. My left arm is still flaccid but 291 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: starting to move, so I'm encouraged. And the drs think 292 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: six to twelve months to get full movement back and 293 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: say that being young is one of the advantages in rehab. 294 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: So I guess the silver lining is at least he 295 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: had his freaking heart attack when he's thirty and can get. 296 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: Most of his movement back. There you go. 297 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: I type this post using voice dictation software. Apologies for 298 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: any typos, grammatical errors, or formatting. I suck with grammar 299 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: before the stroke and John, there is an update. 300 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: But what do you think? What should op do? I 301 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: mean definitely like we are not like the premiere experts 302 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: in health care, law or anything here, but I feel 303 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: like kind of what Opie was listening out, like contact 304 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: the lawyer in the Bahamas, keep calling around, like asking 305 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: all of these professionals, like, hey, what are all of 306 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: my like viable options here to get the money back, 307 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: because I feel like there is a way, there has 308 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: to be. I mean, that's really sketchy. But there is 309 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: an update, John, let's get into it. Update. 310 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: United came through and paid ninety five percent of the 311 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: charges but one hundred percent of the hospital bill. They 312 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: shorted me forty six hundred because the hospital overcharged me, 313 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: meaning the invoices added up to more than when they 314 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: ran their card. Hospital is a bunch of thieves. So 315 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: now I have to see if the hospital refund me 316 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: and overage or open a new dispute with b of 317 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: A Bank of America for the overage. Thank you for 318 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: all the advice life lessons have been added to the list. 319 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: So at least it ended up with a fifty five 320 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollars bill. 321 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: I'm so glad to hear that. 322 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: And you know, like in the grand scheme of things, 323 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: even if OPK like definitely dispute and do and you know, 324 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: do your thing because also it's like just on the 325 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: principle of the overcharging and whatnot, OP should find it. 326 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: But even if OP never you gets the money back. 327 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad. 328 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Going from fifty five K to four point six k 329 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: not a bad decrease. I mean what I would love 330 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: to hear is I would love to hear everyone's, like, 331 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, healthcare stuff. I imagine there are some shit 332 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: stories with the American healthcare system or any healthcare system. 333 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: So if you have any terrible experiences like this, we'd 334 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: love to hear them. I mean, my small one is 335 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: I was trying to get these lumps on my leg 336 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: remove It's just like little fatty deposits, and my dermatologist 337 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh, covered by insurance, totally fine, got it removed, right, 338 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: and then I came back to get the stitches out, 339 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: and apparently I think this is pretty snaky, but the 340 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: insurance covered the opening of it and the removal, but 341 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: the stitching of it back and then the removal of 342 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: the stitches was one thousand dollars. 343 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: Come on, how shity is that? Dude? 344 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: That is so slight. 345 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, we could remove it no cost, 346 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: but if you want your if you want to be 347 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: stitched back up and those stitches removed, then it's going 348 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: to cost you. 349 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: Like what do you think the person you're saying like, 350 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: oh awesome, thanks, Like yeah, yeah, those stitches were totally 351 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: worth a thousand. Absolutely not like, of course someone's gonna 352 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: be like I came in for the procedure. If you 353 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: tell me the procedure is free, then it's free. Well 354 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave with a gaping hole, like like, 355 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? Yeah? Literally American 356 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: Healthcare systems. 357 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah it is. 358 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: Did I just find one million dollars? I just discovered 359 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: my grandpa's hidden treasure. But now my gold digging family 360 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: is coming for me. I think I'm just gonna steal 361 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: it all myself. Am I the a hole? Mister beast 362 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: bought an island for eight hundred thousand. I'm just buying 363 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: a remote island and hide away. 364 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: I twenty six male, recently bought out my cousins and 365 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: sibling shares in our ancestral family home. My family has 366 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: lived here since the nineteen twenties. It is on a lake, 367 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: and my wife and I plan on using it as 368 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: a vacation home and rented out on Airbnb. The home 369 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: needs a lot of work as it hasn't been maintained 370 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: before he bought it. We asked everyone to come and 371 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: take what they wanted. The house was filled with decades 372 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: of stuff. They took what they wanted and that was 373 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: the end of it. As we have begun demoing an 374 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: upstairs bedroom, we found a loose floorboard. After removing some 375 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: carpet under the floorboard, we found a metal box with 376 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: an old block on it and a coffee can filled 377 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: with old old coins. We cut the lock and found 378 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars in bills from the nineteen sixties, a 379 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: pocket watch, gold cuff links, ruby earrings, sapphire and diamond bracelets, 380 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: and a pearl necklace. Got a good haul for real. 381 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: Based off of this, we think it belonged to my 382 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: great grandparents, who died in an accident in nineteen sixty three. 383 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: I called my mother and told her what we found. 384 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: She was shocked. My great grandfather didn't trust banks and 385 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: had hidden valuables all over the place. Apparently a lot 386 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: of people did this after the Great Depression. My mother 387 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: thought they had found everything. She's now asking that we 388 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: hand it all over, sell it and split it between 389 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: the family members. Mama, there's this little thing called finders keepers, 390 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: losers weepers. 391 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: I said, I would give them the cash and the 392 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: antique coins, but I would like to hold onto the 393 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: jewelry to pass on to my future children. My mother 394 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: said that my siblings need the money because they are 395 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: both unemployed due to the global situation. She considers what 396 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: I found family properly, legally, I purchased everything in the house, 397 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: So I think I am covered. My mom and uncle 398 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: are saying we can not come to Christmas if we 399 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: don't hand it over. So am I the a hole 400 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: for not splitting the lost family treasure? Johnny think man? Also, 401 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: how much do you think it's worth? Put your answers 402 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: to the comments. How much you think this whole treasure 403 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: is worth? 404 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: Right here? I actually think if it was their grandparents, 405 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: they probably would have wanted the parents to inherit it. 406 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: I think it should be split among the family. Here 407 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: here we go. I think I got to appraise it, 408 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: divide the value by how many people there are, you know, 409 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: the parents, the grain, children, et cetera, and then divvy 410 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: it up. And then yeah, if OP does want to 411 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: pass down, like maybe like the sapphire ear rings, for example, 412 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: buy out the rest of the value for that and 413 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: then pass it down. I think that that's the most 414 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: fair thing. 415 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: My husband's new bimbo is stealing my daughter's money and clothes. 416 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to sue for full custody. So am I 417 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: the a hole? 418 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: Why don't we take them for everything they got? 419 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: I thirty six female, have a daughter, Sadi twelve, with 420 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: my ex husband Joe nine. We got divorced five years ago, 421 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: and I have primary custody. Well, he sees her two 422 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: weekends a month. Last year he got married to Amanda, 423 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: who has sole custody of her kids ten and eight 424 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: female from a previous marriage. Amanda is a stay at 425 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: home mom, not for any health reasons or so on. 426 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: She just doesn't want to work. While John works at 427 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: a nine to five. He makes good money to support them, 428 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: but not enough to live in luxury. I have a 429 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: much higher, big job all right over, says it just 430 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: me and Sadie. I make sure she has the best 431 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: possible life. She goes to private school, set her up 432 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: a college fund, and she has much better things than 433 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: most kids, phones, clothes, et cetera. I still managed to 434 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: raise her to be humble and not take things for granted. 435 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: And she's one of the hardest working people I know, 436 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: always making sure to get good grades and keep her 437 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: room tidy. There you go, Well, last few times she 438 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: came back after a weekend at John's, I noticed that 439 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: the clothes she was bringing back in her duffel r 440 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: not her size and b much cheaper and poorer quality 441 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: than what I usually buy her. I asked her why 442 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: that is, and she told me that while she's at 443 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: her dad's, Amanda takes away her knife clothes and gives 444 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: them to her kids, while Sadie gets the clothes they. 445 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: Buy from targets. Wow, this is like the worst case 446 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: of robinhood I've ever heard. Let's try from the rich 447 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: your kids and give to the poor my kids. 448 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: I asked if she wanted them back, but she said 449 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: she didn't mind sharing since all her favorite clothes were 450 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: kept here, which is a phenomenal attitude. The problem came 451 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: when I went to pick her up last weekend. I 452 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: had a business meeting and couldn't drive her over, so 453 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Amanda offered to just pick Sadie up from school, which 454 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: hadn't happened before. When I got there on Sunday, John 455 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: and Amanda asked me to sit down with them, and 456 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: when Sadie came to hug me, Amanda sent her to 457 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: her room quite harshly, saying her punishment wasn't over yet. 458 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: I was confused because Sadie very rarely misbehaves. They sat 459 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: me down in the kitchen and said it was unfair 460 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: for Sadie to be going to private school while her 461 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: kids had to go to a public one. So they 462 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: had decided that Sadie would be pulled out of the 463 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: private school and put in the same school as the girls. 464 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: What you're fucking bunkers. 465 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 466 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: And this is like a private school that OP is 467 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: paying for. You do not get to decide this, They said. 468 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: I should keep up Sadie's punishment because when they told her, 469 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: she blew up at them, told them it wasn't fair 470 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: and yelled that Amanda and her kids weren't even her 471 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: real family, that all they did was steal. 472 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: What is freaking true? How dare you tell the truth? 473 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: I told them, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. 474 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: I would not be pulling my child out of a 475 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: school she likes, away from her friends because they can't 476 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: afford it. I told them they could easily make as 477 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: much money as me if Amanda started working in her field, 478 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: because she has the qualifications and the job market is 479 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: very good. I told them that their money problems are 480 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: not my issue. And if Sadie's items get stolen again 481 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: or they try to pull her out of school, I'll 482 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: be taking them to court. Yeah, blowing up my phone 483 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: ever since calling me selfish an a hole, and after 484 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: telling the story to a friend, he told me I 485 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: was rubbing my success in their face. But I still 486 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: don't feel like I did anything wrong. Oh am, I 487 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: the a hole. And there is an edit and an update, 488 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: but I want your gut check right. 489 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: Now, AB salute Lee. 490 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: Not not at all. This other couple is crazy. They're 491 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: absolutely X couple is insane. How do they think that's okay? 492 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: I just don't know how they think it's okay to 493 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: pull a kid out of the school they've been going 494 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: to randomly A okay, already a big one and then 495 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: be like like you really think you're gonna like get 496 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: away with this and like that you have the authority, 497 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: Like ah, okay. So here's the edit. Okay, I got 498 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: temporary guardianship while waiting for a court hearing. We're going 499 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: to try to get full custody and have John get 500 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: one day a week of visitation supervised for at least 501 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: the first few months, and no contact with Amanda or A. 502 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: This way, he still sees Sadie just as much and 503 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: they can try to repair their relationship, but she doesn't 504 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: have to go back there. All contact between us is 505 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: made through emails, which are seed by my lawyer, and 506 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: I've asked for Sadie's things back. I've talked to Sadie 507 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: and we decided that she's going to try therapy for 508 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: a little while to help deal with everything that's happened. 509 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 2: And here's the update. We've had the hearing and our 510 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: custody arrangements been modified Amy Any and all decisions relating 511 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 2: to Sadie are made by me and me alone, who 512 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: John has supervised visitation once a week, and Sadie will 513 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: continue in therapy to deal with all the issues Amanda 514 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: and co have caused her. They tried to push for 515 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: fifty fifty custody split on grounds of alienation, so me 516 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: trying to put Sadie against my father. But we made 517 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: it clear from the start that we wanted to keep 518 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: Amanda and her children away and wanted supervision only because 519 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: we don't feel safe leaving him alone as of gets, 520 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: but that we were open to modifications. Thanks to that, 521 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: the proof of stealing and Sadie's therapist testimony. Their claim 522 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: was thrown out pretty quickly. Yes, Amanda pissed and it's 523 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: trying to contact me and Sadie. But I made it 524 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: clear that if she keeps harassing me or my daughter, 525 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: all have to make this known to the authorities. Sadie 526 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: and I have blocked her everywhere and any communication between 527 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: John and us is made through text messages or emails only. 528 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: Like to thank you all for the support throughout. This 529 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: really means a lot to us. Sending you loads of 530 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: love and that's the end of the story. Wow, So 531 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: I wanted to kick it to the comments. I mean, 532 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 2: what do you think of this situation? Do you think 533 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: OPI made the right decision by getting full custody of 534 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: the kids? Was that too much? 535 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: Was it too little? Let us know the comments below, John, 536 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: what do you think? 537 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: Uh, not at all. I think Ope was not only 538 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: way in the right, but it was also like very 539 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: smart about it and reasonable, Like like OPI was like, 540 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 2: I do want to have still some visitation. I am 541 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: open to like you know, basically a very open and 542 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: I would say very empathetic approach considering how unempathetic and 543 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: what act poles? That shit crazy? 544 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: This dude was, Oh my god, my mom is trying 545 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: to steal my liver to save her life. 546 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: The thing is, I don't really care if she dies. 547 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: Am I the A hole? 548 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, my mom was pretty awful 549 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: to me and my sibling. Resentful, a bit of a bully, 550 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: never hugged any of us, and mainly told us how 551 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: we ruined her life. You get the picture. I moved 552 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: out at seventeen to keep my sanity. It sounds like 553 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: a lovely home. 554 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: It's so nice. 555 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm twenty eight now and have never had much of 556 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: a relationship with her after moving out, as she never 557 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: once admitted that she had done something really effed up 558 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: to us. My sister is married and has two kids. 559 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: My brother is divorced with three kids. I got a 560 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: call from the hospital that my mom managed to drink 561 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: her liver out of order and need to transplant. All 562 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: of us siblings were found out to be a match. 563 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: My sister and brother, once they realized that cutting out 564 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: part of your lover isn't risk free, backed out. I 565 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: was told I have something called sidis and versus, meaning 566 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: my organs are abnormally placed and that it would make 567 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: the risk of surgery higher for me four percent risk 568 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: of death within two weeks of surgery and higher risk 569 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: of other off happened, and of course one hundred percent 570 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: guarantee that my mother will drink away. 571 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: That liver too. Yeah. That's the other thing is you're 572 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: almost like enabling now. 573 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: Everyone, the doctor, my mom, siblings, everyone is telling me 574 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: I should do it because I don't have kids, so 575 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: who cares if the risk is high? 576 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: I have kids, So you're useless. 577 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: You're a waste of human life. You're not popping out 578 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: babies like a gatlin gun. This piss me off. 579 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: My family never valued my lifestyle as a decided not 580 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: to do life by the script about a cabin in 581 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: the wilderness in the north and work from home, so 582 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: I rarely have to leave my lovely little hideaway. I 583 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: make enough money to live the life I'm always dreamed of. 584 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: But apparently that does not count since I don't want kids, 585 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: and my mom, who never cared if I lived or died, 586 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: suddenly thinks she deserves my liver because she gave birth 587 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: to me. 588 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 4: She's a vending machine of organs. 589 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: You know. 590 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 4: It's like b three liver please. 591 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: The fact that she then spent seventeen years bullying me 592 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: is irrelevant, because family and kids are a gift from God. Well, 593 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: the doctor said to me, well, it is an increased risk, 594 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: but your mother needs a new liver. At least you 595 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: don't risk leaving children behind. That I was so stunned 596 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: I forgot the entire Swedish language and just sat there. 597 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: I'm guessing, oh piece from Sweden? 598 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: What did I just hear? And who will care for 599 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: my pets if I die? 600 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: Oh? Pie's a dog balles and my mom. I gave 601 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: you my life, you should do the same for me. 602 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: After all, I gave you my best years and raising you. 603 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: Were no j'all. 604 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: She also gave me two fractured ribs, and one time 605 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: locked me out of the house in the middle of 606 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: winter and I had to smash a window with my 607 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: hand to get in. I can't believe I even tried that. 608 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: I agreed to be tested as a donor, as if 609 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: she would have magically changed. I'm leaving the city tonight, 610 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: taking the train north, and will hopefully be back in 611 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: my cozy home tomorrow. So the doctor calls to hear 612 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: my decision. I might not even pick up cold. Guess what, 613 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: John what, there's a freaking up date. Oh goodness, OP 614 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: sent an image of where they live, and it's beautiful. 615 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I've spoken to the people involved, my mom, my siblings, 616 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: and the medical staff, and I told everyone that I 617 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: won't donate a part of my liver to my alcoholic mother. 618 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: The doctor at the hospital where my mother was treated 619 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: initially when her liver crash simply said, I understand, but 620 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: that also means that I must inform you you need 621 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: to prepare to say goodbye to her in a not 622 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: so distant future. I might not particularly like my mother, 623 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: but I don't wish death on anyone, so that sucks. 624 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: But again, she drank her own liver away. It took 625 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: years of hard work to reach the place where she 626 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: is now. 627 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: She's been to. 628 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Several clinics on all sorts of help. She would stay 629 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: until they stopped treating her with oxes can and then 630 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: check out and start it all over again. So much 631 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: of the taxpayer's money has been spent and thrown away 632 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: on her, and she refuses to take any responsibility at all. 633 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: It's always the nurses or the doctor's fault. 634 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: That she drinks. It don't give me the right treat married. 635 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: I think she would do the same to any donated liver, 636 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: and I told the doctor this. My sister said that 637 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: she understood, and now that things have had time to 638 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: calm down a bit, even said that she thinks it's 639 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. 640 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: My brother does not agree. 641 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: With my decision, so maybe donate your own liver bro 642 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: on which actually op he said. And I told him 643 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: that he can donate a nice size of his own 644 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: liver then, But then of course he tells me he 645 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: can't because he's got kit and it's too much of 646 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: a risk for it. I, on the other hand, and 647 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: am obviously disposable and my mother, so I honestly can't 648 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: be bothered to type it out. 649 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: I phoned her to tell her that she will not 650 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: be getting my liver, and as. 651 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Expected, she went from jovial to resentful by the drop 652 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: of a hat. Everything from I'm your mother, you only 653 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: get one mother, two you must be there for family 654 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: was throw it at me. She even referred to the 655 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: fact that I once risked my life for my dog 656 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: when she went through the ice on a frozen lake. 657 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: But you won't this for your mom, No, No, I 658 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: will not. 659 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: Actually, she said many awful things. I guess I can 660 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: understand that she's upset and scared, but even I have 661 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: a limit how much of that I'm. 662 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: Willing to stand. 663 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: So eventually I just said I'm done and I hung up. 664 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: Not sure what to expect now, don't really care either. 665 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad that my sister came around. Perhaps my brother 666 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: will if given time. 667 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: Maybe not. 668 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: Either way, I'm happy to have made my decision clear. 669 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: Now that it's done, I can get back to enjoying 670 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: my life far from the mall, in the comfort of 671 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: my home and the company of my awesome dogs. 672 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: Oh, he's colder than an ice liver fresh off the surgery, 673 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: colder than her dog when it fell through the ice. 674 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, So my question is, if your parents 675 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: was dying of liver cancer, would you give your liver 676 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: to them? Let's say they don't have a drinking problem, 677 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: they just had liver cancer. Would you give your liver 678 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: to your mom or dad? I want to hear what 679 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: everyone else in the comment says, and why, John, you 680 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: would Yeah, I mean. 681 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: Like my mom is not like this mom, like this 682 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: mom is crazy. 683 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I would definitely do it, but I think 684 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: it's also an interesting scenario of like putting yourself in 685 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: OPI sues of like, if this person is your mom, 686 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: would you do the same thing this person is my mom, 687 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 688 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: If it was my actual mom, I would give her 689 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: my liver. Yeah, but where do you give your liver 690 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: to your mom? Put your answers in the comments and 691 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: tell us why. 692 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: My friend is jealous of my special needs privileges and 693 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: demands that I don't need them. 694 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: It's not my fault. I have a disability. Am I 695 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 4: the a hole? 696 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: About a year ago, my university added psychological problems to 697 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: these special needs students requests. I have been diagnosed with 698 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: severe anxiety and clinical depression, so I decided to apply 699 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: to the program. The program is strictly enforced, and they 700 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: requested my diagnosis, the date, and the doctor. Then they 701 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: contacted my doctor about it. Well, I got in and 702 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: I now have about fifty percent more time in my exams, 703 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: and I'm able to record the lectures. I can get 704 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: them from the program when I need. There's some absences allowed, 705 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. One of my friends learned about 706 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: my special need status and then confronted me the first 707 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: thing you do whenever your friends get a dyke. Yeah, 708 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: this episodes, you just got cancer? How dare you? They 709 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: told me, since I was stable and functioning, I shouldn't 710 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: be using the program, and I was probably taking away 711 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: from someone who needed it more. It's true that I 712 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: have been in therapy for a while and I've been 713 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: taking my medication. My panic attacks are less frequent and 714 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: less damaging. She called me an a hole for taking 715 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: part in a program that is quote unquote not meant 716 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: for me. Some of my friends told me that they 717 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: agree with her and that they have also been thinking 718 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: this for a while. Wait, so they're all mad that 719 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: OPI's getting better. So now I am truly conflicted. On 720 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: one hand, I truly benefited from the program, But on 721 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: the other hand, maybe they're right and I'm using this selfishly. 722 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: So redda, am I the a hole? Now there is 723 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: an update, But Sam, as of right now, do you 724 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: think OPI is the A hole? No? 725 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean the school is deciding who gets into the 726 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: programs and who doesn't, and they are deciding the criteria. 727 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: If OPI fits the criteria, then they get in. 728 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 2: OPIE got in fair and square. 729 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: Ooh ooh, are Opie's friends to say that you're not 730 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: disabled enough. 731 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: For the first of all, thank you to everyone for 732 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: the encouragement to use my special needs status and to 733 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: confront my friend about her reaction. I admit I used 734 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: some of your words when talking to her to better 735 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: explain myself. So we talked, and at first it seemed 736 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: like she was sympathetic to my situation, but after a 737 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: while she told me that I was exaggerating, and she 738 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: specifically told me, quote, I deal with depression and anxiety, 739 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: and I don't need a program. 740 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: Well for you, then I guess you don't need the program. 741 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 4: Congratulations, Oh my god wants the program? 742 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: You don't. She expressed that she feels as though this 743 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: was encouraging me to be lazy, and while she understood 744 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: there wasn't a limit to students in the program, she 745 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: told me that I was being unfair to those with 746 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: learning disabilities by getting the same accommodations. I tried to 747 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: explain my accommodations my need to get more time because 748 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: of a panic attack I had during a Procter Zoom exam, 749 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: but she kind of flared up and shouted that it 750 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: wasn't fair to her that she was not getting the 751 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: same treatment. She felt like the university was playing favorites. 752 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: Has she applied? 753 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: Have you applied? 754 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: I decided to remove myself from a situation and told 755 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: her that I was rethinking our friendship and not to 756 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: contact me for now. So there, it is not a 757 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 2: happy update, but I at least got to explain myself. 758 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm also contemplating whether I should send this post to 759 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: her for her to see other people's reactions, but I'm 760 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: not sure. 761 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think it could help, Like, maybe that would help. 762 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: I think that probably would help to show her how 763 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: much of it that dumb dumb she's being. 764 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: Thank you guys again, you all really helped me with 765 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 2: my confidence in this situation. 766 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: I love when Reddit actually comes out to bad for people. 767 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: That is a beautiful moment when it happens. Quick question, 768 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: So I think we've discovered OP is not the a hole. 769 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: Is the friend the a hole for saying this with 770 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: a friend? Yeah, I think the friend is the ale. 771 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: I think OP should send the Reddit post. 772 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: My selfish husband stole my bonus and spend it on himself. 773 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: No one takes my. 774 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: Money and lives. Am I the a whole and lives Hey, 775 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: you gotta know which I gotta though I am not 776 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: sure how to do this or if this is the 777 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: right community. I would like some objective third party advice 778 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: I put for my current situation as I am at 779 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: a loss to history. My husband, twenty eight male, and 780 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: I twenty seven female, have been married for about four 781 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: years now. We dated in college and got married afterwards. 782 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: He finished college with a finance degree and thought he 783 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: would go into accounting, big money bags over Yeah, yeah, 784 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 2: I know. Oh. My man quickly found out that accounting 785 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: was not his passion. He started bouncing around jobs and ideas, 786 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 2: business ideas, being a teacher, being a lawyer, but nothing 787 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: really kept him saying, this is what I want to 788 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: do my passion. This was pre COVID. Since COVID, he 789 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: has not attempted anything. He says, after the pandemic there 790 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: will be a boom and jobs and he can find 791 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: something easily then that he's passionate about. 792 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: Man is the king of procrastination. 793 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling you me, when this pandemic blows over, that 794 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: all look for something. I've been working full time and 795 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 2: thankfully my job became remote and pays the bills while 796 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: putting food on the table. What is he doing all 797 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 2: that playing video games like masturbating? After the fiscal year 798 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: closed out, my work was done really well. We sell 799 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: medical testing equipment, so it was a big product of 800 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I was given a promotion. I got a 801 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: little pay raise and a small bonus. I was really 802 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 2: excited because I could finally repair my purse and replace 803 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 2: my shoes. My friend's puppy destroyed it, but I acknowledge 804 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: I should not have left my purse on such a 805 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: low stool in front of the puppy's bed. So my 806 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: fault side note totally not your fal topee. The friend 807 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: should pay for that. I was so excited to tell 808 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 2: my husband, but he seemed more excited than me over 809 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 2: this promotion. He started going off on hell he could 810 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 2: redo his game area and get the nice new system 811 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: since he was tired of his others. 812 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: Bro, why would she get you something that's just gonna 813 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: make you more of a piece of. 814 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: Shy was dumbfounded. I got really quiet because I almost 815 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: could not believe what he was saying. He eventually goes 816 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: out and gets himself a new system, chair and a mouse. 817 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 2: Is he trying to become a streamer? He had basically 818 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: spent my bonus. I was so upset and ultimately hurt 819 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: a numb We ended up getting into an argument, and 820 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 2: he called me selfish for not being happy that he 821 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: got to achieve his dream and I'm being spoiled for 822 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: being upset that I couldn't spend this money on me. First, 823 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: it's her money. I basically called him an ungrateful ahole 824 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: and asked why does he deserve new stuff when I 825 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 2: have been providing. He got really quiet on that one 826 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 2: and just stormed out, saying that he would be staying 827 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: with his family only about an hour away. And I've 828 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: been getting angry calls and texts due to the fact that. 829 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 5: He doesn't feel supported in his own home, supported doing 830 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 5: what And if I'm making the money, then I can 831 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 5: get whatever I want when I want. 832 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: And I shouldn't throw it in his face that he 833 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 2: doesn't have any gum, which is not true. I'm not 834 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: saying that I'm trying to keep a roof over his 835 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: head and food on the table. All of his friends 836 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 2: and family think I'm way overreacting to something that makes 837 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: my husband happy. How about you get a job or 838 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 2: just just contribute or work in some way, manner or fashion, 839 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: do anything but play video games and steal money. And 840 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: the next time we get a large sum of money, 841 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 2: my husband said that he would let me repair my purse. 842 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 2: I haven't responded, and don't think I will for a 843 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: few days. But I've gotten so many You're such a 844 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: bee and you're the a hole. I'm starting to wonder 845 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 2: if I really am. There is a wow, a pretty 846 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: meaty up the actually updates which is OPI the ahole? 847 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: What should OPI do? Yeah, let us know in the 848 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: comments when you say comments right now? 849 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: But Sam, I feel like no matter the gender of 850 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: your partner, just like, bring something to the table is important. 851 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: But that could look like a different bunch of ways. 852 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: It could look like, you know, helping out with the house, 853 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: taking care of kids. All right, well, let's see you 854 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: that at this update. 855 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see I was not expecting this kind 856 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 2: of support. I appreciate all the kind messages and compassion. 857 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: This is more than I've ever felt in my life, 858 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: So thank you, redd it. I took the weekend to 859 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: reflect on what I want and read through the comments 860 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: and messages. I see your point and that I can't 861 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: keep treating this like a marriage if he doesn't. So 862 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: here's to today and my first steps towards freedom. I 863 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 2: am separating the finances immediately and contacting a local lawyer 864 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: to see my options and rights, as well as therapy 865 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: options for him. I will present this to him and 866 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: he gets to choose, but I refuse to baby an 867 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 2: almost thirty year old. If he wants that, well, he 868 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 2: has his mother and we have one final update. I 869 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 2: want to thank everyone who reached out and snap me 870 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: out of this days with my soon to be ext 871 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: he was extremely toxic and just made me feel not 872 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: worth anything, thus probably why it was so hard to 873 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: see he wasn't it. So I want to thank everyone 874 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: who offered words of encouragement and even the tough love 875 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: I needed to hear it. After we went back to 876 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: his parents, he was waiting for my apology, which I 877 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 2: never did, and when he noticed I drained our joint 878 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: bank account, he escalated, saying I was his and how 879 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: I could never actually leaved him, and that he owned me. 880 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, all of my success was his and 881 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: without him I would be a loser drop out. His 882 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: family was even worse. I had already blocked them, so 883 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 2: they started making fake accounts and using apps to hide 884 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 2: their number to harass me, saying I ruined their son's life, 885 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 2: and how he sacrificed everything to get me where I 886 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 2: am to throw him to the city's sacrifice. He wouldn't 887 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: even sacrifice his gaming console for your purse, and that 888 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: this was disgusting and that I deserved to rot. I 889 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 2: provided all of this to my lawyer, who recommended that 890 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: I take a restraining order in case he wanted to 891 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: to escalate further, and not to engage ever, but just 892 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: to keep the record. This has caused my anxiety to 893 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: go through the roof, and I'm working on this with 894 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 2: my therapist. I've separated the finances completely and changed my banks, 895 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 2: even told them I soon to be X is never 896 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: allowed to access these accounts because he would take it 897 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: all and run. I have changed my number and gone 898 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 2: completely dark on social media. Besides, this, part of me 899 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: is broken that our marriage came to an end over 900 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: a computer. I keep thinking I am stupid and how 901 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't see the warning signs. I must look like 902 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: a fool to everyone. All in all, I'm slowly picking 903 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: up the pieces of my life and figuring out how 904 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: to move forward. Thank you to anyone still reading this, 905 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 2: and thank you everyone who helped get me here. Opie, 906 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 2: You've been through the ringer, But I feel like this 907 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: is probably the best conclusion that you could have hoped 908 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 2: yes for. It sounds like the guy completely just showed 909 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 2: his colors, and better that he show you and you 910 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 2: get out of it than like you know him stringing 911 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 2: you along. 912 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 4: Imagine spinning your whole life with this guy. I mean 913 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 4: that would be awful. 914 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 1: So please share your stories of your significant other being 915 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: a piece of and not working at all if you 916 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: have those. 917 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: My boyfriend is boning a stranger, so I broke into 918 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: his house and caught him inside her. 919 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 4: He yelled at me for spying on him, and I 920 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 4: the ahole. 921 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 2: Give the man some privacy. No, my boyfriend is cheating 922 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: on me with an eighteen year old who still lives 923 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 2: with her parents. He is thirty six man robbing the 924 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: cradle over here. He my boyfriend passed me his phone 925 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: and a message came through saying I miss you, bab. 926 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: How many emojis were there? No emojis that we know 927 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 2: that we know, Okay, that we know of. 928 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 4: He travels a lot for work and he had just 929 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: gotten back that weekend. 930 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: I said nothing. I was taken, aback. I spent that 931 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 2: night at his place and checked his phone while he slept, 932 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 2: and I confirmed it. Oh No. All the time while 933 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 2: I was texting him and he never responded to me, 934 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: he was talking to her, an effing eighteen year old 935 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 2: who he had mentioned in the past was the daughter 936 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: of a family friend. 937 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: Oh that cannot be a good luck for that family 938 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: friend relationship. 939 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: He mentioned how he missed her, how much he wanted her, 940 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 2: and how much loving he needed when he got back. 941 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: All the while he is telling me how much he 942 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 2: loves me and wants a future with me. Bro, he 943 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: just wants a future with both of them. Come on, 944 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: he said so much to ask. I haven't confronted him 945 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 2: about it. I don't even know how to. I've never 946 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 2: been cheated on before, and I feel dirty and disgusting. 947 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 2: How can people be so fine? Pretty rough? Dude. 948 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: It's like bad enough to cheat on someone, and then 949 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: it's bad enough to cheat on someone who is like 950 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: half your age, but that it's way worse to cheat 951 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: on someone who is half your age and is your 952 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: family friend. 953 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: God, dude, Sam, we have a series of updates are 954 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 2: Are you ready I'm about to smack you. I don't know, man, 955 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yes, thank you all for the support 956 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 2: and responses. I am crying my eyes out. Some things 957 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 2: to quickly clarify. We don't live together. However, I did 958 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: leave something in his place that I need to get back. 959 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: I did take some screenshots. The messages are creepy and disgusting. 960 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 2: I do have the girl's phone number, and with a 961 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: little digging, I found her parents' social media. Oooh, there's 962 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 2: gonna be some sweet revenge in the future. I agree 963 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: that maybe I should not confront him, though part of 964 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: me wants her parents to know the pity revenge all right. 965 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 2: On to update number two. Overwhelmed by this response is 966 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 2: some more context. He had mentioned this girl before and 967 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 2: how he sort of defended her because someone was bullying her. 968 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: She's very overweight. I never imagined he would be screwing 969 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 2: her based on the conversation. She's got some self esteem 970 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: issues and he comes across as a creep example, he 971 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: tells her that she is too young and he doesn't 972 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: think she's ready for the ride, even though he's all 973 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 2: about her. Her response is that she likes that he 974 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 2: has his life put together and that she will do 975 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 2: anything for him. His response, I want you and hope 976 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: you know your mind. Now weird, bro, this is some manipulation. 977 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 2: I feel gross even writing this. I don't know how 978 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 2: long this has been going. For the conversation in the 979 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: screenshots started over a week ago, and it seems like 980 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: he has been deleting them. Yikes. Also, I don't know 981 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: for how long he's known this family. He lived out 982 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: of state for a while and he's only been here 983 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: for three years or so. We've been together for one year. 984 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: And no, I'm not blaming this girl. As far as 985 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 2: I know. She's unaware of my existence too. I found 986 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 2: out over the weekend. I was in shock, but I 987 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: didn't confront him about it, so it's still very raw 988 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 2: regarding exposing him. He's going to get angry as his 989 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: image is important to him and this coming out would 990 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 2: damage it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Bro. He knows where 991 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: I work, where I live, and then I'm alone. I'm 992 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: getting out and have to do it carefully because once 993 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: he finds out that I outed him, he will retaliate. 994 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: The final update, I decided to go to his place. 995 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: I called him and texted him letting him know I 996 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: was on my way. He didn't respond. I still went stupid. 997 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 2: I know his car was there, so I called again, 998 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: no response. Long story short, I saw them together by 999 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 2: going and peeking through the back window. I knocked on 1000 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 2: the front door, and well, no surprise, she was in shock. 1001 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 2: He got angry and closed the door in my face. 1002 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: I walked away. He proceeded to text that showing up 1003 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: unannounced was crappy, and I just replied that it would 1004 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: be the last time. You know what else is crappy? 1005 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: You teating on me with this eighteen year old family bread. 1006 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: I couldn't get my things, which wasn't a lot, so 1007 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: I will just take that as a loss. It's over. 1008 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 2: While I don't have family around, I do have a 1009 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: solid friend group. He's blocked everywhere, and I just want 1010 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 2: to hide under a rock for a while. How can 1011 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 2: I be so effing blind and stupid. Whether I'll send 1012 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 2: the messages to the parents, I haven't decided yet, Plus 1013 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: the possibility of him coming after me as selfish as 1014 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 2: it sounds, I gotta take care of myself first or 1015 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: I'm going to lose it completely. If she didn't know 1016 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 2: about me, now she knows, and if she did, I 1017 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 2: just feel sorry for her. I truly appreciate the supporting 1018 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: and caring comments. And yes, as of last night, that 1019 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: piece of Dodo Man is out of my life. Thank god. 1020 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 4: Wow. 1021 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean I would love to hear everyone's like cheating stories, yeah, 1022 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: if they've ever caught a partner cheating. I think she 1023 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: made the right decision in leaving this guy. I think 1024 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: also do what makes her feel best, you know, like, 1025 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: you know, don't bend over backwards to do like like 1026 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 2: what you think is best for like the other girl 1027 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 2: or for him, like just you know, you need to 1028 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: take care of your mental health first. Yeah, and then 1029 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 2: maybe once you're feeling in a better place, you can 1030 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 2: talk about talking to the parents. 1031 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, protect yourself first. The car salesman was sexist, 1032 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,479 Speaker 1: so I bought the car from someone else. He lost 1033 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: his commission and made nothing. 1034 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? 1035 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: I need a new car as my old one is 1036 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 1: over thirty five years old and on its last legs. 1037 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: Oh p, your dummy cars have wheels. I also decided 1038 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: to get an upper end luxury car, which was a 1039 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: huge upgrade from my old but reliable voll Though since 1040 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: I figured I'd earned it and I could pay for 1041 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: it outright. I took my boyfriend with me to the dealership, 1042 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: as you do as a couple. A salesman approached us, 1043 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 1: and the entire time, from start to finish, kept talking 1044 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: to my boyfriend, even though I clearly introduced myself and 1045 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: told him the car was for me and that I 1046 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,479 Speaker 1: would be paying for it outright. He's like, all right, honey, 1047 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: that's that's super sweet of you, But uh oh, what 1048 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: does the man think about this car? My boyfriend was 1049 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: off put by the whole thing, kept referring the salesman 1050 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: to me when he asked my boyfriend a question, and 1051 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: even pointedly said at some point, I don't know it's 1052 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: delicious cancels car asked her. The salesman would look at 1053 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: me i'd answered the next question, and then back to 1054 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: the boyfriend. The only question I was asked was around 1055 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: color preference and leather versus fabric interior. I was kind 1056 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 1: of fuming at this point. The final straw was after 1057 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: the test drive, again this is a car four op. 1058 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: The salesman gave the keys to the boyfriend. I said 1059 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: that I really liked the guy, and he turned to 1060 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: my boyfriend and said if he should get the paperwork ready. 1061 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: I interjected and said I wanted to think about it. 1062 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: I had already decided on the car, but I didn't 1063 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: want the commission to go to him. My boyfriend could 1064 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: tell I was a bit upset about this interaction and 1065 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: offered to go to another dealership with me tomorrow or 1066 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: leave a review or something. So the boyfriend's like, let's 1067 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: just purse him out over Google reviews. So we left 1068 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: and came back the next morning. So the same car dealership, 1069 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: a different salesperson greeted us, and this one was much better, 1070 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,959 Speaker 1: ridiculously charming, flattered me by saying a hard working woman 1071 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: like me deserved a good car and all the flattery 1072 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: I was expecting when being sold to, and then he 1073 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 1: asked for my number. 1074 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 2: That's about it is. 1075 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 4: This is going to be I left my boyfriend for 1076 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 4: the car. 1077 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: I told him we'd driven the car yesterday and decided 1078 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: to buy it, and we did so no hassles. I 1079 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 1: even managed to negotiate some extra since I told him 1080 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: I was giving him a sale for very little effort 1081 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: on his part. I was recounting this story to a 1082 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: friend of mine yesterday who was in sales, but in 1083 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: I t told me I was a bit of an 1084 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: a hole because a previous salesman had done all the 1085 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: work and I gave the sale to someone else when 1086 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: I was wanted to buy the car anyway. The guy 1087 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: with duxast, though, he said I should have asserted myself 1088 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: a bit more on the spot and given the previous 1089 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: salesman more of a chance, rather than try to screw 1090 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: him over behind his back, because now he'd never know 1091 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: why he'd lost the sales. It's not her job to say, like, yo, 1092 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: you're being sexist and here's why, and let me let 1093 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: me tell you about the beg doll test really quick. 1094 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 4: Six a sack. 1095 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: He also said that the sales job was tough and 1096 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: maybe old habits die hard, or if I didn't want 1097 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: to buy from him at all, I should have given 1098 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 1: him him a concrete reason so he could learn. I 1099 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: think my thing is it's twenty twenty and it's basic 1100 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: sales one oh one to speak to the person who 1101 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: holds the purse strings, and it is not my job 1102 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: to teach a salesperson anything. I just want to have 1103 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: a smooth experience buying a car, so am I the 1104 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: a hole for going out of my way to not 1105 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: give a sale to what I believed was a sexist salesman. 1106 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to know what everyone thinks of the comments 1107 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: to be tapping of the comments below. But John, what 1108 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: do you think again? 1109 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 2: Not only is this guy being sexist, it's he's also 1110 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 2: being bad at his job at the same time, he's like, 1111 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 2: he's not being a good salesman. If someone doesn't want 1112 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 2: to buy from you, you're not a good salesman. What 1113 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 2: does a great salesperson do? Knows who the person is 1114 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 2: and you know, works with them to give them exactly 1115 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 2: what they need. Like that is like the definition of 1116 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 2: a great salesperson. This person's the who can identify a 1117 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 2: man and only talk to them exactly. It's not a 1118 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: great salesman. 1119 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: A grocery store, Karen called the cops because I took 1120 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,439 Speaker 1: my service dog into the store, but then my dog 1121 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: scared her kid. The a hole, the ad bare you 1122 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: traumatize my child more than me. I have an invisible 1123 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: disability and a service dog. 1124 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 2: Wasn't it like. 1125 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 4: Something that you can't see? 1126 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 2: I turned invisible. No one can see me. 1127 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: She's a cardiac alert dog. I bring her everywhere, and 1128 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: it has been such a big quality of life difference 1129 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: for me. Yesterday, I was in bulk Foods buying some 1130 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: supplies and brought my dog with me. While I was 1131 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: buying candy, a girl nearby started to cry wee. The 1132 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: mother walked over and started demanding that I leave the 1133 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: store immediately. I tried to tell her that my dog 1134 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: was working and was not a pet. She wasn't having 1135 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: any of it and didn't believe me because I was 1136 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: too young to have a medical condition. Too for a 1137 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: medical condition, she said that regardless of whether or not 1138 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 1: my dog was an authentic working dog, her child had 1139 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: autism and was so I had to leave immediately and 1140 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: wait until they were done shopping until I could come 1141 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: back inside. Because you know, I refused and continued shopping. 1142 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: I simply went to another area of the store to 1143 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,959 Speaker 1: get the rest of the stuff on my shopping list. 1144 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: The woman had to bring her child and leave the 1145 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 1: store because she was too scared. The entire time, she 1146 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,720 Speaker 1: kept saying I should be ashamed of myself for scaring 1147 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: a child and refusing to leave. 1148 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 2: And yes, my dog wears a harness. 1149 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: With patches on it to clearly identify it as a 1150 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: service dog and to have people not distract while she's working. 1151 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 2: And there is an update. 1152 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: But John, gut check, what do you think is op 1153 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 1: and a hole for scaring an autistic kid with her dog. 1154 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 4: No, you're crazy. She set me up for failure there, buddy. 1155 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: No, no, no joke believes that all dogs should be 1156 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: used to scare artistic children. 1157 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean, like, at the end of the day, 1158 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 2: it's like two people have two needs, and it's like, 1159 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 2: unfortunately they are competing with each other. Unfortunately. It just 1160 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 2: is what it is. Maybe the mom could have gone 1161 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 2: up and been like, hey, I know that this is 1162 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 2: a service dog, but my daughter is autistic. If there's 1163 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 2: any way, like you know, we can kind of just 1164 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 2: like kill it. There's any ways your dog, you know, 1165 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 2: that's a lot more reasonable. Maybe even that's too much 1166 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 2: to the other side of the store. Yeah, just go 1167 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 2: just avoid it. 1168 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: But there is an update. John, Okay, okay, like chlamydia, 1169 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: you're getting it again. 1170 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: Yes, jokes. 1171 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: So I saw the Karen with their child again, by 1172 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: this time in Walmart while it was grocery shopping. 1173 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 2: So Karen has appeared once more. Oh god, I. 1174 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: Made the mistake of ignoring my dog when she was 1175 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: alerting to my heart rate. I genuinely thought she wanted 1176 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: the sandwich I was eating. 1177 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: Boy was I wrong. 1178 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: I ended up really dizzy and out of breath and 1179 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 1: had to sit down in the corner of the store 1180 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: while she was doing deep pressure therapy. I must have 1181 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: been on the floor for about ten minutes. During this time, 1182 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: a member at Walmart came over to check on me 1183 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: and asked if I was all right. They gave me 1184 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: a free bottle of water as well, and I'm very 1185 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: appreciative of that. Anyways, while I was down, the same 1186 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: child saw me again from a distance and had another meltdown. 1187 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: The child's mom already explained to me last time that 1188 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: her daughter had autism. She was screaming and crying about 1189 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: my dog because she was terrified. I can understand why 1190 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: she would be scared because my dog is by no 1191 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: means small. She is a one hundred and fifteen pound 1192 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: female cane Corso yeah, those dogs are huge pounds as 1193 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 1: massive too. 1194 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 4: It's a big boy. 1195 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 2: That's how big dog. That's a big dog. Dang. 1196 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: Aside from alert and response, she's also trained for mobility assistance. 1197 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: Her breed isn't typically used as a service dog, but 1198 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 1: she was a natural. I got her as a pet dog, 1199 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: and she became the service dog I needed. She's one 1200 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent good girl. This woman did not leave the 1201 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: store with her child that was having a meltdown. Instead, 1202 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: she had the audacity to call nine one one on me. 1203 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: Eventually the cops show up, and she kept shouting that 1204 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: I was faking having a disability because I was too 1205 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: young to actually be disabled, that it was illegal for 1206 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: me to have my service dog anywhere near food, and 1207 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: that people like me are the reasons she has to 1208 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: suffer lockdowns. 1209 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm Asian, yi oh, she said. 1210 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: The least I could do is be considerate and stay home, 1211 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: away from everyone and keep my dog at home where 1212 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: it belongs. My dog was very clearly vested with tags 1213 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: and says service dog. I showed the cops my medical 1214 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: note that I carry, stating I require a service dog. 1215 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: In the end, the manager and the woman from coming 1216 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: to the local walmart for a year. 1217 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 2: Woo. 1218 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: Cops only gave her a warning for wasting their time 1219 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: and escorted her off the property. Bro, So do you 1220 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: think op is the a hole for letting her dog loose? 1221 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: On autistic children. 1222 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 4: Again with the seff Opie is not the a hole 1223 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 4: at all. 1224 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 2: The shocking audacity of this Karen, This lady is like 1225 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 2: so beyond crazy. She's just I feel like this, Like 1226 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 2: Karen's like, these are just looking for reasons. Like again, 1227 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 2: she kept her daughter close to the dog. After the 1228 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 2: daughter's freaking out. Move the daughter from the situation, the situation, 1229 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 2: take her outside, Like I get it's like inconvenient, but 1230 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: leave her there. I get it's inconvenient, but it's like, 1231 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 2: what can you do? Like Walmart's big. Walmart is huge, 1232 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 2: Go to another area, go to the blind give your 1233 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 2: kid an iPad. 1234 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 4: Honestly, iPad is not a bad idea at all, Like 1235 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 4: that could that could work? 1236 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 2: Why not a blindfold? Something about removing vision from my 1237 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 2: child doesn't seem like the most optimal. 1238 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: Rather have them have a melt down. He probably barely 1239 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: has object permanence. Just delete it from the wart. 1240 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 4: Walmart is literally a warehouse you can so easily. 1241 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 2: Find go blindfold. 1242 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 4: They have so many options. 1243 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,479 Speaker 2: My coworker kidnapped a kid, but now she's changing her mind. 1244 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 2: She wants to kick him to the streets. I'm calling 1245 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 2: the cops. Am I the ahole. My coworker is kind 1246 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 2: of a weirdo. I will call her Mary for the 1247 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 2: sake of this post. Her and her husband are one 1248 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: of those people that have a ton of adopted kids 1249 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 2: eight so far. That's crazy. Is that like one of 1250 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: those like hack schemes where you get money because you 1251 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 2: adopt more kids, and like, are they trying to gain 1252 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 2: the system? And they're super religious to each his own. 1253 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 2: Mary enjoys telling everyone at work her business, so when 1254 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 2: she decided to adopt a kid from Ukraine, everybody heard 1255 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: about it. She went with an older kid because it 1256 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 2: was easier for her and her husband. She says this 1257 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 2: was two years ago. Mary has always asked me to 1258 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 2: babysit the boy a couple of times. I'll call him Tony, 1259 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 2: and it's never been a problem because I like kids. 1260 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 2: I didn't see any glaring problems despite Mary's constant dramatics 1261 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 2: about how awful the kid was, and he seemed to 1262 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 2: like being over. It's just me and my boyfriend here 1263 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 2: and our place is small, but clean and really well kept. 1264 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 2: Mary's house is disguss for lack of a better word. 1265 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I can imagine eight kids just run in 1266 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 2: a while. Lately, Mary has been at work talking to 1267 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 2: anyone that'll listen about how awful Tony is, how horrible 1268 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 2: he is to the other kids, and how she going 1269 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 2: to get rid of him, Like that's gotta be traumatic 1270 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 2: for the kids, oh for sure? Like Oh. She sent 1271 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 2: out a freaking mass email to everyone in our department 1272 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 2: asking if someone wanted to take her kid from her 1273 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: bro She calls it re homing and that it's okay. 1274 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: I logged onto Facebook today and same story. She has 1275 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 2: pics of Tony posted on her timeline, advertising him for 1276 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 2: readoption and to contact her if interested. 1277 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, this sounds like a dog your pictures of 1278 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 1: this kid? Do you want to adopt? 1279 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 2: I haven't replied to her email yet, and I haven't 1280 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 2: commented on her post, but I'm this close to ripping 1281 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,479 Speaker 2: into her for what she's doing. She's crossed the line 1282 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: from weird into full blown cycle? Should I call CPS? 1283 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 2: I called the police just now, but they sounded completely 1284 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 2: confused on what to do. They agreed to do a 1285 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 2: welfare check. This post is still up. Is this really legal? 1286 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't know much about adoption, and a quick search 1287 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 2: for rehoming gets leep mostly results about animals, any advice. 1288 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Is there an update? 1289 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 4: There is an update. 1290 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 2: I got personal messages from people that worked for local 1291 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 2: and state governments and private agencies that were outside of 1292 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 2: my state, but offered their. 1293 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 4: Contact rannit coming in clutch, guys, here we go, let's go. 1294 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 2: I had people that spoke Russian and Ukrainian offering to 1295 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 2: help me contact through Ukrainian embassy and offered me contact 1296 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 2: information for embassy departments. People even contacted us offering money 1297 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: for Tony's immediate needs in the event. 1298 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 4: We decided to take him in no way. 1299 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 2: I am sincerely touched by the genuine concern all of 1300 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 2: you had for Tony and his siblings. I hope one 1301 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 2: day I can tell Tony that despite everything that's happened, 1302 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 2: there's people out there like you guys that care about him. 1303 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 2: The information you guys gave us helped us act fast 1304 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 2: and got the ball rolling on the situation faster than 1305 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 2: me and my boyfriend would have figured out alone. I 1306 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 2: talked with the cops about the situation, and honestly, they 1307 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 2: were just as confused as I was. The person I 1308 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 2: talked to on the phone was just as stumped, but 1309 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 2: he agreed that at a minimum, they did need to 1310 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 2: do a welfare check. I've had experiences with welfare checks before, 1311 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 2: and I had the nagging feeling that something just wouldn't 1312 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 2: go right. Oh no, and someone personal messaged me the 1313 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 2: priority line for my state's Child Perspective Services hotline. I 1314 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 2: got someone on the phone right away, and as soon 1315 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: as I mentioned that trafficking could be going on and 1316 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: that she advertised the kid on Facebook it was a 1317 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 2: public post here too, people, they acted with a quickness. 1318 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 2: I gave him all the information I had on Mary 1319 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 2: and Tony and all the information I had from Mary 1320 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 2: about Tony's adoption. The person I spoke to right away 1321 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 2: said that she suspected that the adoption might not even 1322 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 2: be legal. I was floored. I emailed all the screenshots 1323 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 2: I had to the person I spoke with and asked 1324 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 2: for a follow up if that was at all possible. 1325 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 2: I said that myself and my boyfriend were willing to 1326 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 2: take Tony on a temporary basis if necessary, but the 1327 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 2: CPS representative said that likely wasn't possible. Then the waiting 1328 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 2: game began. Last night was probably the most stressful night 1329 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 2: I've ever had. At one point, I was ready to 1330 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 2: drive out to Mary's house myself, but was stopped by 1331 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 2: my boyfriend. It was tough. The cops followed up with 1332 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 2: us at approximately two am. Note that I hadn't heard 1333 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 2: from CPS. The officer I spoke with was very cautious 1334 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 2: and limited in what he said, but he told me 1335 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 2: that CPS arrived at the home shortly after he did. 1336 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 2: In not so many words, he implied that Mary had 1337 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 2: been talking with someone about meeting Tony the very next day, 1338 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 2: and CPS's suspicions were confirmed. Tony's adoption was not legal. 1339 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 2: Tony was rehomed to Mary and her husband from another 1340 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 2: state where placement needs to be approved by a judge. 1341 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 2: That are like kicking the can down the road. He 1342 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 2: didn't elaborate further except to say that other issues came 1343 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 2: to light and all of the children were removed from 1344 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 2: the home for their own safety by CPS. Wow. He 1345 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: didn't say how long they were there, but said it 1346 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: wasn't a long time quote unquote. I was asked to 1347 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 2: drop off all emails and printouts to the station in 1348 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 2: the morning, and I agreed. My boyfriend and I wanted 1349 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 2: to make doubly sure that all of the cases were checked, 1350 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 2: so I called our local FBI office, who said they 1351 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 2: lacked jurisdiction in that matter, but would be writing up 1352 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 2: a complaint and referencing the issue to the state department. 1353 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 2: We called the Ukrainian embassy and made a detail complaint 1354 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 2: and I included the contact information I had for the 1355 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 2: office from the apartment. Really hit the fan when I 1356 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 2: went into work to print out the email. Our company 1357 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 2: is pretty small, and the company owner, I'll call her 1358 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 2: Big Ang because of her resemblance to the mob wives lady, 1359 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 2: had gotten wind of Mary's email. Big Ang was furious 1360 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 2: and waiting at Mary's desk to see if she would 1361 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 2: show up for work. My friend reported that Big Ang 1362 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 2: from seven fifteen to nine thirty and that Mary came 1363 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 2: to work with a sob story about how her kids 1364 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 2: were being unfairly taken away. Oh Man. Mary wanted time 1365 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 2: off from work to quote unquote clear her name and 1366 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 2: quote unquote devote herself to reclaiming her family from this misunderstanding. 1367 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 2: I wasn't there to witness this, but Big Ange, who 1368 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,439 Speaker 2: has six kids herself, apparently ripped Mary a new toll. 1369 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 2: Mary has been dismissed, and rumor has it that Big 1370 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 2: Ange may or may not allow her to claim unemployment. Wow, 1371 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 2: Big Anne, just bring it down the hammer. My head 1372 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 2: is honestly still spinning from everything that has happened. The 1373 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 2: past twenty four hours have been insanity. I'm so grateful 1374 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 2: that the system worked as quickly as it did. I 1375 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 2: only hope it works out a long term solution to 1376 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 2: this problem and that Mary doesn't get to reclaim her kids. 1377 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 2: My heart is breaking for Tony and the other kids 1378 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 2: right now. I don't know what the f was happening 1379 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 2: in Mary's house that made CPS remove them that night, 1380 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 2: but I'm going to sleep better knowing that they aren't 1381 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 2: with Psycho Mary and her husband, at least for a while. 1382 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: What the future holds for Tony and the other kids, 1383 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 2: especially because Tony's adoption was apparently illegal, makes me sick, 1384 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 2: but I'm going to wish for the best. I need 1385 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 2: a damn drill. That is crazy, dudeyeh, it's crazy. I 1386 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 2: feel like it was the right move because it's like 1387 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 2: the consequences of not doing that, I feel like are 1388 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 2: too higher, Like the risk is too These are children, 1389 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 2: these are Innocentatically. I told my coworker what an idiot 1390 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 2: she is. For her horrible baby names. I'm just a 1391 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: brutally honest guy, am I the ahole? 1392 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: You know what they say what honesty without empathy is cruelty. 1393 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 4: I heard that honesty is the best policy. That's what 1394 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,439 Speaker 4: I've heard. 1395 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're gonna be honest, you're probably also 1396 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: going to be an apple. 1397 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 2: I cannot believe that there's a split opinion for this 1398 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,479 Speaker 2: at my office, but here we go. A coworker of mine, 1399 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 2: thirty nine female, recently had twin boys after a long 1400 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 2: battle with infertility. She has made her first appearance into 1401 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 2: the office with her new babies to introduce them to 1402 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 2: our team. That's the infertility jackpot right there. When people 1403 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 2: asked what she named the boys as up until this appearance, 1404 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 2: she was undecided. She told me that she was naming 1405 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 2: them Sean. Okay, that sounds normal. 1406 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 4: Terrible name, How dare you so? 1407 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 2: When I asked about the other baby, she said, no, 1408 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 2: they're both Sean, one with an A and one with 1409 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 2: an E. 1410 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 4: So there's s E A N and s e E N. 1411 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 2: S E E N that is Scene. It's Sean. 1412 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 4: That is Sean. 1413 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 2: You were just named your kid Sean and Scene. 1414 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 4: The coworker's last name is also Sean. 1415 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 2: So when I pointed this out, she said, yes, it's 1416 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 2: like Tom, Tom or JJ. I immediately and without thinking, said, 1417 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 2: that is the most idiotic thing I've heard. 1418 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 4: Is going to be confused us. 1419 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 2: Oh god. A bunch of people laughed and a bunch 1420 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 2: of people looked away. After she left, I got a 1421 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 2: few text messages saying it's not my place to comment 1422 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 2: on people's choice of name. Am I the a hole 1423 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 2: for saying that is a terrible naming idea? And some 1424 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 2: additional information. No, they don't have meddle names. She wanted 1425 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 2: their names to be like Tom, Tom or JJ. This 1426 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 2: apparently is not the first round of negative feedback she 1427 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 2: has had. Oh yeah, we're on good terms. We have 1428 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 2: worked together across three companies over twelve years. And she 1429 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 2: said it'll grow on you. The names are both pronounced Sean, 1430 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 2: like Sean saha w n. There's a decent actually a 1431 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,799 Speaker 2: man of meat left on it, some meat on the bones. 1432 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 2: Everyone watching Sam right here is a or. I mean, 1433 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 2: it's definitely a dumb name. 1434 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a dumb question that someone tells you 1435 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 1: their baby name and you think it's them as a brick, 1436 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: do you them to their face? 1437 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,360 Speaker 2: My coworker's husband, who was also a coworker, saw the 1438 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:12,799 Speaker 2: post last night. Uh uh. They had a good chuckle 1439 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 2: and ended up agreeing with the replies that the naming 1440 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 2: process wasn't ideal and maybe the overwhelming process of having 1441 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,719 Speaker 2: two newborns left them too tired to think straight, despite 1442 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,320 Speaker 2: the fact that they had already sent off the paperwork 1443 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 2: to Births, Deaths and Marriages Office the place you lodge 1444 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 2: bursts for in Australia they called it the Brisbane Office, 1445 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 2: and the paperwork had only been provisionally processed due to 1446 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Christmas time, and they have used this time to reassess. 1447 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 4: They have withdrawn the paperwork for seen only the see en. 1448 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 2: There's still on and they'll think of a new name, 1449 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 2: but they are keeping Sean Sean as they like it. 1450 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 2: Have also been reported to HR for making this Reddit post, 1451 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 2: not by the parents. They think it's hilarious, so well, 1452 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 2: well if it isn't the concept of my actions. They 1453 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 2: also want everyone to note that calling her an idiot 1454 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 2: wasn't the worst thing I've said to her this year, 1455 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 2: and while I'm definitely an a hole, that it's more 1456 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,839 Speaker 2: of a general thing than being tied to the situation. 1457 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 2: Happy holidays everyone, and there is a final update. All right, 1458 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 2: let's blaze through it. A lot of people want an 1459 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 2: update post on my meeting with HR for whatever reason, 1460 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 2: so here it is. But as expected, it was underwhelming. 1461 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,679 Speaker 2: I met with HR yesterday. The meeting was pretty brief 1462 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 2: and definitely a waste of everyone's time. They asked if 1463 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,600 Speaker 2: I was aware of the company's social media policy. I 1464 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 2: said I was. I'm fairly confident that I hadn't breached it. 1465 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 2: They agreed I hadn't and asked me to be more 1466 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 2: considerate of my coworkers' feelings and to not push this 1467 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 2: meeting all over the internet. What are we doing here, o, 1468 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 2: b they have your post. I said, I'll definitely be 1469 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 2: doing an update and that I'll be sure not to 1470 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,719 Speaker 2: call the person naming their child Seene Sean an idiot. 1471 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 4: Again. 1472 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 2: I work in banking, and while there is a long 1473 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 2: way to go to fixing the culture across the entire 1474 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 2: banking organization, I think HR was just doing their thing 1475 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,600 Speaker 2: and making sure I'm on notice in case I don't know. 1476 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 2: I take a photo of me stealing candy from a 1477 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 2: baby while wearing the company logo or something like that. 1478 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Well, that was quite the adventure. It was quite the adventure. 1479 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: But I think someone I want to know from everyone 1480 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: else is one is OP the a Hole. I think 1481 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, maybe a little bit. But two, 1482 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: what are the worst baby names that you've heard? Put 1483 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: your answers in the commons below. They gave their baby 1484 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: a dumb name, So I just pointed out how stupid 1485 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: and dumb dum baby name is am I the a Hole. 1486 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,560 Speaker 1: I have a tradition of making tooth fairy pillows for 1487 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 1: my friends and family when someone is pregnant. I am 1488 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: broider a fancy crest on it with the child's initials 1489 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 1: in the center. One of my cousins announced she and 1490 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: her husband were pregnant and that's it online, and of 1491 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 1: course I was excited for her. I messaged her and 1492 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: asked if she wanted me to make a pillow for 1493 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: her baby, and she said yes, okay. I told her 1494 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: I could make it now or wait until the baby 1495 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 1: is born and make it then. I always give people 1496 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: the option to keep the name a surprise. She wanted 1497 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: me to make it now so that she could show 1498 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 1: her in laws as the baby name was going to 1499 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 1: have significance to her husband's family. Ooh, building, well, this 1500 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: is where it gets awkward. She told me the name, 1501 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,679 Speaker 1: and it's a lovely name. However, the first name starts 1502 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: with an akay, the middle name starts with an s. Ooh, 1503 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,799 Speaker 1: and their last name starts with an S. I asked 1504 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: her if she really wanted me to embroider that on 1505 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 1: a pillow. She video called me at that moment, laughing hysterically, 1506 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 1: saying she didn't even realize, and that she was going 1507 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: to have a talk to her husband about it and 1508 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,799 Speaker 1: hold off. I go about my business thinking, whew, bullet 1509 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: dodge for that kid. Yeah, and then she and her 1510 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: husband would get a good laugh about their almost mistake. 1511 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 2: Nope. 1512 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: A couple hours later, her husband called me and laid 1513 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 1: into me about how the name chosen was special and 1514 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 1: I was trying to turn crass and make juvenile jokes 1515 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 1: out of something that was so meaningful to his family. 1516 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 2: You joked on yourself, buddy, You literally name your kids, 1517 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 2: he said a lot. But that was the just of it. 1518 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 1: He told me I was an ass, that he didn't 1519 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 1: want my stupid pillow and told me to stay away 1520 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: from his family as clearly I had no respect for them. 1521 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I honestly didn't realize it would be that big of 1522 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,600 Speaker 1: a problem. I just didn't want to embroider profanity on 1523 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: a pillow, not for a baby. Anyway, his reaction has 1524 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,719 Speaker 1: me wondering if maybe my mind is in the gutter 1525 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and I'm the only one who has a problem with it. 1526 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 1: So am I the a hole? There is an update, 1527 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: But John, what do you think? 1528 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 2: I love how we're asking if he's the asshole for 1529 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 2: writing acts? That's so great meta. He was basically like, Hey, 1530 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,600 Speaker 2: are you just wanted to know what you want me 1531 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 2: to put out? Do you want me to put this 1532 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,679 Speaker 2: on the pillow? I think that's fine. 1533 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Before I can decide what to do, my cousin and 1534 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 1: her husband called for all of you calling him and ask, well, 1535 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: you were right. He is an act too, the third 1536 01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 1: to be prey. They're all at He always went by 1537 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: middle name, so I didn't know he's getting in a 1538 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 1: lot of pressure from his parents to carry on the 1539 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,719 Speaker 1: family tradition for his unborn son. He apparently was also 1540 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 1: bullied a lot in school for his initials. 1541 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 2: He was actually really sorry for going off of me. 1542 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I guess my cousin called him laughing about it, and 1543 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: he didn't want to get mad at her, so he 1544 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 1: redirected to me. The messenger drab broke the Campbell's back 1545 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of situation. He admitted he's got some issues to 1546 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,600 Speaker 1: work through, but he gave me a proper and I 1547 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: feel sincere apology, and my cousin has promised. 1548 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,160 Speaker 2: Me some of my favorite chocolate is on the way 1549 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 2: to my house as we speak. I'm relieved because I 1550 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 2: didn't want family functions to become awkward, nor did either 1551 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 2: of us want the wrath of our grandma to befall 1552 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 2: cousin's husband. They've been discussing it and they're going to 1553 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 2: go with the name they actually like rather than making 1554 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,719 Speaker 2: their son in. They did as nicely if I would 1555 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,719 Speaker 2: still make a pillow, but after the kiddo was born, 1556 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,559 Speaker 2: so his dad won't have pre warning. The kiddo won't 1557 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 2: be an act also, and they have a whole name 1558 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 2: to figure out again too. I will make them the 1559 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 2: pillow after the chocolate arrives. It really did, I mean 1560 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,719 Speaker 2: the fact you know it was it was the trauma 1561 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 2: of being being a man. He just you know, he 1562 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 2: couldn't help, but unleash UPONO. 1563 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's still figuring out his identity. 1564 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 4: That's that's exactly. 1565 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 1: My ex has a restraining order against me and wants 1566 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: to a vict me from my home. 1567 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 2: I don't care about the law. I'm not leaving. Am 1568 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 2: I the a hole? Dang? 1569 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 4: When you've got a whole restraining order against. 1570 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: Somebody, don't restrain yourself, don't stop keep going. 1571 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,560 Speaker 2: My ex wife and I had a rocky marriage, and 1572 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 2: my alcoholism didn't help. There we go, all right, opee, Well, 1573 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,679 Speaker 2: at least you could admit to stuff. 1574 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,799 Speaker 1: She pushed for a divorce. We lived together during the divorce, 1575 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 1: and one day I found out she was dating another man. 1576 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 1: I snapped and hit her pretty hard. I was charged 1577 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: with assault, spent three months in jail, went to anger management, 1578 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 1: and I was also issued a three year restraining order, 1579 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 1: which probably honestly good. 1580 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was two years ago. 1581 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,759 Speaker 1: I've since sobered up, met a wonderful woman, and moved 1582 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 1: to a completely different apartment complex in a completely different 1583 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 1: part of the city, and have never had any further 1584 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: contact with my ex wife. I admit what I did 1585 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 1: was wrong. I paid the price. I've since re established 1586 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,600 Speaker 1: myself My current woman, who have been in relationship for 1587 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,800 Speaker 1: two years, is aware of this background story, which makes 1588 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 1: things slightly easier. 1589 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 2: Well. Unknown to me, my ex moved into my apartment 1590 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,799 Speaker 2: complex about five months ago with her now new husband, 1591 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 2: who had always lived here. I just didn't know this. Wow. 1592 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 1: I saw her in the lobby just before New Year's 1593 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 1: She greeted me. I turned shocked and said hello. She 1594 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 1: asked me what I was doing in the lobby. I 1595 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 1: said I was just coming in from work, and she 1596 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 1: told me the restraining order is still in effect and 1597 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,599 Speaker 1: that I need. 1598 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 2: To move out. Wow. 1599 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that is legal. 1600 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. I tried to 1601 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 2: reason with her and told her I'd be happy to 1602 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 2: steer clear of her. I know we don't live on 1603 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,680 Speaker 2: the same floor. I don't even know what floor she 1604 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 2: lives on. 1605 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't care to know. I told her if I 1606 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 1: saw her in an elevator, I wouldn't get in and 1607 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,800 Speaker 1: just wait for the next one. She told me she 1608 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: was going to enforce the restraining order against me. My 1609 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 1: partner and I literally signed a brand new two year 1610 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 1: lease six months ago. We love the place we live 1611 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 1: in and wouldn't want to move, and it feels unjust 1612 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 1: having to move slashing curve financial hardship because the person 1613 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 1: I had a restraining order against moved into my apartment complex. 1614 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,639 Speaker 1: The reason why I'm bringing this up is because last 1615 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 1: night the building manager was informed of the restraining order 1616 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,240 Speaker 1: and told us that we need to figure this out. 1617 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 1: So the question is, would she really be able to 1618 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 1: force me out of my home even though I lived 1619 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 1: here before her? As long as I do my best 1620 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 1: to avoid any contact with her, which I'm perfectly fine doing, 1621 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't that be sufficient. I work a really early schedule, 1622 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 1: and I learned of the fact that she has been 1623 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,839 Speaker 1: dating this guy and coming over to this apartment complex 1624 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: for the entire time I've been here. We just recently 1625 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,600 Speaker 1: have crossed paths. He's been living here full time for 1626 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: the past five months. I'm not sure what to do. FYI, 1627 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: this is New York City. I mean, John, what do 1628 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: you think. 1629 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,679 Speaker 4: It could get? Very very dicey. 1630 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 2: If that's all true, then it seems like probably a 1631 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 2: reasonable situation, and that I would guess you would go 1632 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 2: to a court and like basically like state your case 1633 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 2: of like hey, like basically everything you just said, I 1634 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,639 Speaker 2: feel like she has every right to enforce the restraining order, 1635 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 2: especially with that additional context. But John, there is an update. 1636 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, let's see. 1637 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: The public defender that represented me was no longer practicing 1638 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 1: in the New York City area, but I retained a 1639 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 1: lawyer who was a friend of a friend who has 1640 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: experienced in this area. My lawyer got references from my 1641 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 1: parole officer, employer, and AA sponsor. Our goal was to 1642 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,680 Speaker 1: get the restraining order modified to a simple no contact 1643 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 1: order with no distance requirements so I could continue living 1644 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,360 Speaker 1: with my partner. I spoke to the judge, told in 1645 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 1: my story and what I had done to correct my 1646 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,919 Speaker 1: past transgressions. He reviewed my record and we submitted our references. 1647 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,639 Speaker 1: During this time period, I was crashing on a friend's 1648 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 1: couch as to not violate my protective order. 1649 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,480 Speaker 2: The parole officer. 1650 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 1: Said I had to pay my fines, followed all the rules, 1651 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,320 Speaker 1: and never once had to remind me of my restrictions 1652 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 1: and so forth, and said he was impressed with my turnaround. 1653 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,280 Speaker 1: So the parole officers saying like basically everything that he 1654 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: did was good. 1655 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 2: On his side. Essentially, my employer said that I was. 1656 01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 1: Always early never seemed to be under the influence or 1657 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 1: a hangover from anything, and even at our company functions, 1658 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 1: was very open and honest about my sobriety and didn't 1659 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 1: partake in drinking. My AA sponsor said good things about 1660 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,600 Speaker 1: me too, how he was impressed with my maturity and 1661 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 1: openness on my alcoholism and addiction. The judge asked my 1662 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: ex wife to speak. My ex wife said she was shocked. 1663 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 2: By my turnaround. 1664 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: She said that it seemed unfair to her to require 1665 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: me to move because she moved into my building unknowingly, 1666 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,600 Speaker 1: and that she no longer felt threatened by me. This 1667 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 1: was a shock to both my lawyer and I, as 1668 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 1: I expected my ex to want to keep the protective 1669 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 1: order in place. The judge said that he wouldn't modify 1670 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: the productive order, but in in fact lifted entirely as 1671 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,719 Speaker 1: he felt it had served its purpose, and that based 1672 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 1: on my references, my testimony, and most importantly the testimony 1673 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 1: of my ex, that he didn't see how keeping it 1674 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,720 Speaker 1: in place was benefiting anyone anymore. He did tell my 1675 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 1: ex that if she ever felt threatened or in danger 1676 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,879 Speaker 1: because of something I said or did, she could contact 1677 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 1: the police. The judge then told me his main reason 1678 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 1: for lifting the order was to allow me to live 1679 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: in my current apartment, but advised that it was a 1680 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 1: good idea to avoid contact with my ex to avoid 1681 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: potential complications down the road. He reminded me, because of 1682 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,719 Speaker 1: my past, it wouldn't take much to get another protective 1683 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 1: order in place. I told the judge I had no 1684 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 1: intention of talking slash contacting my ex, and I was 1685 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 1: thrilled that I don't have to move and get to 1686 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 1: stay with my current girlfriend. So over the course of 1687 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,000 Speaker 1: this weekend, I moved back into my apartment with my girlfriend, 1688 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that this was resolved. 1689 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 2: Every once in a blue moon, Sam, we have a 1690 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 2: story that has a happy ending. 1691 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,560 Speaker 1: But you know what we would like to hear. We 1692 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: would like to hear from Republic subscribers about you know 1693 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,559 Speaker 1: who are some people that you actually saw do a turnaround? 1694 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 1: Lease share in the comments below. 1695 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 2: My brother was bullying a kid for taking the bus, 1696 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 2: so I'm never driving him to school again. Now he 1697 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,799 Speaker 2: has to take the bus with all the other losers. 1698 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:13,839 Speaker 4: Am I the ahole? 1699 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,800 Speaker 2: Give him a taste of his own medicine. Ooh, it 1700 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 2: tastes nasty. It tastes like the bus floor. My brother, fifteen, 1701 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 2: goes to the same private school that I attended. It's 1702 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 2: full of a bunch of spoiled, rich kids whose entire 1703 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,280 Speaker 2: identity is surrounded by how much money their parents make. 1704 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,600 Speaker 2: If you don't get a car by sixteen, you'll be 1705 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 2: bullied without a doubt, God, as you should be. So 1706 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 2: a friend shared a TikTok her sister posted, and it 1707 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,760 Speaker 2: was a group of boys bullying a kid waiting for 1708 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,640 Speaker 2: the bus. They were mocking him, laughing at him, and 1709 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 2: at one point someone off camera threw food at the kid. 1710 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 2: I recognized two kids, one of them being my brother. 1711 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, geez. I told my parents, and they 1712 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 2: brushed it off, saying he's a teat boy. 1713 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,600 Speaker 1: You know how they go who just take away the 1714 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,720 Speaker 1: bed cleve for a couple of days and he'll learn 1715 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 1: his lesson. 1716 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 2: When my brother got home, I told him what he 1717 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 2: did wasn't right, and he walked away laughing. I told 1718 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 2: my mom, as long as he continues to bully people 1719 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 2: and they do nothing about it, I won't take him 1720 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 2: to school anymore. Right. That is actually genius. This will 1721 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 2: mean that he'll have to take public transportation because my 1722 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 2: parents leave too early for work to take him to school. 1723 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 2: My parents are livid, saying I'm an a hole for 1724 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 2: being so unreasonable and sensitive over a joke. Let him 1725 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,680 Speaker 2: take the bus? Am I in the wrong here? This 1726 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 2: show was sponsored by your sweet sexy ass. 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Onto 1745 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 2: the first update, Hey y'alls, tomorrow is his first day 1746 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 2: taking the bus since my parents couldn't find anyone else 1747 01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 2: to take it. Nice given that medicine back to them. 1748 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 2: I'll update all this weekend and tell you how the 1749 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 2: week went. Now it's pretty late and I don't think 1750 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,880 Speaker 2: i'll be doing any replies, but I do want to 1751 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,400 Speaker 2: clarify two things. One, I bought my car with my money. 1752 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,479 Speaker 2: My parents didn't. It's not their car, it's mine. Two, 1753 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,719 Speaker 2: I'm not parenting my brother. I don't know how anyone 1754 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 2: jumped to that conclusion. If I no longer wish to 1755 01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 2: go out of my way and pay for gas to 1756 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 2: take him to and from school every day, I don't 1757 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,519 Speaker 2: have to. Like I said, he has to take the bus, 1758 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,240 Speaker 2: and all it costs for kids under eighteen is a dollar. 1759 01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 2: Two dollars a day is not going to hurt my 1760 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 2: parents in the slightest lol. Also, I would take the 1761 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,640 Speaker 2: bullied kid to school if I knew who he was. 1762 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,160 Speaker 2: The principal and vice principal had the video send to 1763 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 2: them already, so if I find who the kid is, 1764 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 2: I'll see if his parents are okay with me taking 1765 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 2: him to school. That's awesome. Yeah, shout out to it not. 1766 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Only punished the bully, but uplift the bullied. 1767 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I can't make any promises on anything happening, since 1768 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 2: I know how this school is and how they deal 1769 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 2: with bullying, and I'm not sharing this TikTok on here. 1770 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,439 Speaker 2: There seems to be some confusion. I said, he goes 1771 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,800 Speaker 2: to the same school I attended, not attend. I graduated, 1772 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 2: and I'm not a minor. Loll okay, So this is 1773 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,400 Speaker 2: the last I'm adding on to this. I don't know 1774 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 2: how me questioning if my actions were right or wrong 1775 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,479 Speaker 2: led to people discussing me living with my parents. Then again, 1776 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,000 Speaker 2: it's the internet, so I'm not surprised. So I was 1777 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,720 Speaker 2: giving my brother rise even when I was moved out, 1778 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 2: but I lived with crappy room May and then I 1779 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 2: moved back home. I am to move back out in 1780 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 2: less than a month if it all works out, and 1781 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 2: if it doesn't, then I'm at home longer than I anticipated. 1782 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,759 Speaker 4: Why are strangers so bothered? My parents aren't. 1783 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,960 Speaker 2: Forcing me to move out laughing emoji. On to the 1784 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,760 Speaker 2: final update. So, as I said, I'm no longer taking 1785 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 2: my brother to school, and my parents couldn't find anyone 1786 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,760 Speaker 2: else to take him, so he did have to take 1787 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 2: the bus. Someone mentioned why not uber or Lyft, and 1788 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 2: that's because my parents don't trust either of them. I mean, 1789 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 2: that's honestly good, because then that's that means he has 1790 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,200 Speaker 2: to take the bus. Thing is he was off the 1791 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 2: hook the first three days October twenty seventh to the 1792 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,559 Speaker 2: twenty ninth, which is why y'all didn't get an update 1793 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 2: on the weekend, because my mom let him stay home 1794 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,720 Speaker 2: the first day. Oh my god. Then one of his 1795 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,839 Speaker 2: friends was taking him, which stopped because he was grounded 1796 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,680 Speaker 2: as he was one of the bullies. God. Then the 1797 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 2: next Monday through Thursday, November first fourth, he had to 1798 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 2: get on the bus. I love how it took him 1799 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 2: four days to actually take the bus and get his punishment. 1800 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 2: This guy is just like slipping, slipping out of every 1801 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 2: possible crist too many friends, you gotta take away his friends. 1802 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 2: On Monday, he still took me as a joke, woke 1803 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 2: me up and told me to take him to school. 1804 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 2: I said no, and that's when it hit Then I 1805 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 2: was dead serious. I gave him a dollar and told 1806 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 2: him to take the bus. Yeah, as some of you guess, 1807 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 2: he hated it. And according to my mom, I quote 1808 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 2: unquote made him have a panic attack because he had 1809 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 2: to take public transportation. Honestly, good, I'm I'm not sad 1810 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 2: about that. I'm not mad. I'm not mad anyways. YadA, YadA, YadA. 1811 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 2: He missed the bus and was late to school. Oh 1812 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,439 Speaker 2: my god. The other days he took the bus, and 1813 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,120 Speaker 2: I didn't hear anything about him being bullied for it, 1814 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,280 Speaker 2: because here's the bully who's the source of the issues. 1815 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,640 Speaker 2: To those of you who claims I was making him 1816 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 2: take the bus to get bullied Friday, my mom let 1817 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 2: him stay home again because you guessed it. 1818 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,960 Speaker 1: He didn't want to take the bus. What a pampered 1819 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 1: puss is He just gonna not get it? Yeah right, 1820 01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:02,639 Speaker 1: he's just gonna drop out of school. 1821 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 2: So he only took it those four days. And for 1822 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 2: those of you who think I stopped him from taking 1823 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,720 Speaker 2: an easy way out, literally piss off, because that is 1824 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,160 Speaker 2: not the case. It's not hard to see why I 1825 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,599 Speaker 2: stopped taking him. You guys are reaching. If you see your. 1826 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 1: Kid making fun of another kid, let them experience what 1827 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,640 Speaker 1: it's like to be the thing that they're making fun of. 1828 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, It's like, oh, you're making fun of the band, nerds, 1829 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 1: you're signing up for tuba lessons right now. When people 1830 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 1: bully other people, it's because they don't have empathy for 1831 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 1: the position of the bullied kid exactly. So your job 1832 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 1: as a parent is to instill empathy in that kid 1833 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 1: for those people. Most of the time, like putting him 1834 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,439 Speaker 1: on the bus, he says he doesn't harm them. He 1835 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: doesn't harm him at all, you know what I mean. 1836 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 1: My friend exploded on me for asking if she was pregnant, 1837 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,120 Speaker 1: but her top does look way bigger. 1838 01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? 1839 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 1: My male twenty five friend female twenty three, usually goes 1840 01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,559 Speaker 1: to the gym regularly and parties a lots. Lately, I've 1841 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,639 Speaker 1: noticed that she stopped drinking entirely the same as smoking, 1842 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 1: and has stopped heavy lifting and going to the gym 1843 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,439 Speaker 1: as regularly as she used to. On top of that, lately, 1844 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 1: she'll often excuse herself to go to the toilet, presumably 1845 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 1: to throw up. And I've noticed she got a bit 1846 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,960 Speaker 1: thicker and watery. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jabbing 1847 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 1: her looks. I'm just noticed also her chest has noticeably grown. 1848 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,320 Speaker 2: Opie is I'm sorry entirely to observe it, Like going 1849 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 2: to the bathroom, presumably to throw up. 1850 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 1: She's gone from a thirty six seed to a thirty 1851 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 1: six double D. When we were out the other week 1852 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 1: and I noticed she didn't have even a touch of 1853 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 1: her red bull, I pulled her aside to have a 1854 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 1: private conversation, and he asked don He asked something that 1855 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 1: you never ask woman ever, hmm, are you pregnant? She 1856 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 1: immediately flipped out and denied it right after she went home, 1857 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,840 Speaker 1: and I covered for her when the group asked me 1858 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: why she went home. I text her late the same 1859 01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 1: night if I overstepped, and she said replied, you literally 1860 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,240 Speaker 1: called me fat, douchebag. I never did such a thing, 1861 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,000 Speaker 1: but I simply let her be instead of arguing. Today, 1862 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 1: another friend told me she indeed is pregnant, and I 1863 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,640 Speaker 1: don't know what to make of her reaction towards me 1864 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: when I asked her in a four I conversation am 1865 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,880 Speaker 1: id al there is an edit, But. 1866 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 2: John, what do you think? Yeah? I think op is 1867 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 2: the a hole because it's like if you ask someone 1868 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,880 Speaker 2: are you pregnant and they say no, it's kind of insinuating. 1869 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,200 Speaker 4: That they look kind of fat, and it's just like 1870 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:29,800 Speaker 4: it's just. 1871 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 2: A weird, quite a weird question to ask. 1872 01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also just I can't imagine asking any of 1873 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 1: my friends if they're pregnant. There is an update, but 1874 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,639 Speaker 1: question to the audience, is there ever an appropriate time 1875 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,879 Speaker 1: to ask a woman, are you pregnant? 1876 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:44,439 Speaker 4: If you think it's your baby? 1877 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 2: That is true only time? 1878 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, this post has been a waste of time except 1879 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 1: you don't do that, which is most of the replies. 1880 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,879 Speaker 1: There's been little actual useful feedback. 1881 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 2: Why don't you do that? 1882 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 1: Why is it not socially acceptable to ask a close 1883 01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 1: friend a normal question in a private setting. It's none 1884 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 1: of your business, Like, if that's the energy, you could 1885 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,720 Speaker 1: apply that to any question. Ever, it's simply a yes 1886 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,799 Speaker 1: slash no common thing. Are we still in the nineteen fifties? 1887 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 1: I love how everyone's like, bro, you don't ask that? 1888 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 1: And he was like, what, I can't a girl's prayer? 1889 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 1: Are we still the nineteen fifties or something? She messaged 1890 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,400 Speaker 1: me and we met up during lunch break. She apologized 1891 01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 1: for overreacting, and I apologize for if my question was intrusive. 1892 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 1: Became to the conclusion that my question wasn't intrusive, and 1893 01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,759 Speaker 1: she also didn't overreact She told me she's two months 1894 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 1: pregnant and didn't think. 1895 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:35,439 Speaker 2: Anyone had noticed. 1896 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Little does she know eagle eyed man on the tatas 1897 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,880 Speaker 1: noticed you're you're a full cup bigger. She was keeping 1898 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 1: it a secret, at least to the guy circle of 1899 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,880 Speaker 1: our group, because she was afraid of being called a hole. 1900 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,960 Speaker 1: That's why she freaked out when I asked, and it's 1901 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,000 Speaker 1: also why she tried to decleect it by saying I 1902 01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 1: called her fat. I reassured her that no one would 1903 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 1: think she's a home, especially. 1904 01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:57,439 Speaker 2: Not in our group. 1905 01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 1: We're all very supportive and are looking forward to doing 1906 01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,560 Speaker 1: our best to help her out the following months. I 1907 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,800 Speaker 1: also shorted the post, and she had a good laugh 1908 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,400 Speaker 1: at some of the way over the board. If you 1909 01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: are the comments, especially the ones calling me a pervert. 1910 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: To be fair, she said many of them also had 1911 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,719 Speaker 1: valid points, but that they in most cases rather concerned 1912 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,400 Speaker 1: strangers and not close friends you've shared big things with before. 1913 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 1: So after all, I retract my second edit, and I'm 1914 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,080 Speaker 1: actually happy with how this turned out, especially after receiving 1915 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 1: more useful feedback from the point I made in the 1916 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 1: second ediot. Some of y'all got to butt hurt over 1917 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:35,599 Speaker 1: edit to though l m a oh so question again? 1918 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 1: Is OP thea hole? And number two is there any 1919 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,519 Speaker 1: appropriate time to ask are you pregnant? I still feel 1920 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 1: like hope he just weirds me out. I don't know, 1921 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 1: I just get such a strange vibe. But what if 1922 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 1: your friend is like obviously like six months pregnant. I mean, 1923 01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna ask are you pregnant? Orre you just 1924 01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna be like going on as normal. 1925 01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 2: I feel like if you're like freaking six seventy eight 1926 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,600 Speaker 2: months pregnant, like you're telling me Wow, I feel like 1927 01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 2: that wow, John, not a reasonablyhy medical are wow? John? 1928 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,960 Speaker 2: So what you're saying, she doesn't really have the choice 1929 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,040 Speaker 2: of whether I tell you or not? 1930 01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,639 Speaker 4: No people would I So. I mean there's definitely people 1931 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:16,000 Speaker 4: who go. 1932 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,240 Speaker 1: Away, people who have been like eight months pregnant and 1933 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 1: said like nothing to anyone. 1934 01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,960 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. But generally speaking, like ninety nine 1935 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 2: percent of the time, like you're going to tell people 1936 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 2: that you're pregnant, Like it's obvious. Why we're talking about 1937 01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 2: the EDU cases? 1938 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:30,680 Speaker 4: God, I don't know. 1939 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,599 Speaker 2: I guess I guess I would eventually ha John would 1940 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:34,839 Speaker 2: ask if you're pregnant. 1941 01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,479 Speaker 1: My parents are trying to force me into an arranged marriage, 1942 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,479 Speaker 1: but they just caught me with another man. 1943 01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 2: I refuse to. 1944 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Follow their traditions. I'm twenty two females. Moved out of 1945 01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,080 Speaker 1: my parents' house last year to a condo that is 1946 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 1: thirty minutes away. 1947 01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,120 Speaker 2: I did this because I plank women with them. Because 1948 01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 2: you're marry, controlling and like to. 1949 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,919 Speaker 1: Force my siblings and me to follow their beliefs. 1950 01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:03,639 Speaker 4: That's not fun. 1951 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,040 Speaker 1: Stop trying to control me, mom. Yeah, stop trying to 1952 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,639 Speaker 1: control me, dad, and stop trying to control me mother. 1953 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,200 Speaker 1: My oldest sister, twenty four female, is like my parents, 1954 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 1: very traditional and controlling. My parents never approved of us 1955 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,640 Speaker 1: getting a boyfriend. They believed in an arranged marriage and 1956 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 1: prohibit us from engaging in pre marital sex. I mean, 1957 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 1: my parents never said, like, don't engage in premarital sex, 1958 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 1: but they're like they weren't, like, you know, we have 1959 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:27,839 Speaker 1: monkey sex. 1960 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 2: In the house, my dad, They let it be known. 1961 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,800 Speaker 1: But I don't care about this bullsh Yeah, that's what 1962 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Opius saying is not what they actually said. 1963 01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,839 Speaker 1: I've had boyfriends behind their backs, and only my youngest sister, sixteen, 1964 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,200 Speaker 1: female knows about it as we are very close. I 1965 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 1: have a boyfriend twenty three male whom I have been 1966 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,680 Speaker 1: going out for eight months now. Yesterday I invited him 1967 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,040 Speaker 1: over to hang out at my home and guess what 1968 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:54,479 Speaker 1: they did? 1969 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 2: John what. 1970 01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,439 Speaker 1: My oldest sister decided to visit me out of nowhere 1971 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:06,920 Speaker 1: and caught us in the air. 1972 01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1973 01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,880 Speaker 1: It pissed me off so much that she visited without 1974 01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,719 Speaker 1: notifying me. She then started screaming at Bay and called 1975 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,160 Speaker 1: me a far for sleeping around. I try to make 1976 01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,439 Speaker 1: her understand that it was my boyfriend and even if 1977 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: I was sleeping around, it was none of her freaking business. 1978 01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:25,400 Speaker 2: Oh. 1979 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 1: She didn't like my answer and proceeded and call my 1980 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,080 Speaker 1: parents to stitch on me. Well, they weren't pissed, and 1981 01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 1: my mom and started going on about how I committed 1982 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 1: a sin. I'm an atheist, but she hasn't respected and 1983 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,639 Speaker 1: forced me to break up with my boyfriend. My dad 1984 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 1: started saying how it was time they find a groom 1985 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,639 Speaker 1: for me and that I would behave. I kicked them 1986 01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,559 Speaker 1: out of my house and told them to only talk 1987 01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,759 Speaker 1: to me if they're willing to apologize to my boyfriend 1988 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 1: and me for disrespecting us. My mom is now trying 1989 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 1: to guilt trip me by stating that she's my mom 1990 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,960 Speaker 1: and has sacrificed a lot to raise me. I know 1991 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 1: that she sacrificed a lot, but I'm not too fond 1992 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,600 Speaker 1: of the way she's treating me. I'm twenty two, not well, 1993 01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:06,800 Speaker 1: my drop, Op, you oldest fuck. They're still pissed and 1994 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,560 Speaker 1: have spam my phone. My cousin's heard about it and 1995 01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 1: forced me to apologize my parents and sisters for kicking 1996 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: them out and yelling at them. 1997 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 2: I refuse to do so and block them. My youngest 1998 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,679 Speaker 2: sister and boyfriend are on my side. 1999 01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,400 Speaker 1: She even called my oldest sister for being a nod bitch, 2000 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,320 Speaker 1: but nobody is listening to her. 2001 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,320 Speaker 2: And she's not an adult. He's just sixteen after all. 2002 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,840 Speaker 1: Sure, so am I the ax whole for standing up 2003 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 1: for myself and my boyfriend. 2004 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,160 Speaker 2: Give it up for Sam's performance comedy Ladies. 2005 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,600 Speaker 4: And gentleman, My goodness, Jim Carrey over here, thank you, 2006 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 4: thank you. 2007 01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 2: There's a little edit. But what do you think off rip? 2008 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I applaud Op for standing up for what 2009 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:52,800 Speaker 2: she wants. Look, at the end of the day, you 2010 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:57,120 Speaker 2: just can't laying down for what she wants off fuck 2011 01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,720 Speaker 2: my phone? Oh my god, Well you know something else 2012 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,439 Speaker 2: is stu both of our wieners. Yeah, we're rock hard. 2013 01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,800 Speaker 2: That's while recording these yep, this is why we You 2014 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:07,960 Speaker 2: know you can't see blow of the waist? 2015 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,000 Speaker 4: What do you think is holding out this microphone right here? 2016 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 2: No, man, but now, OPI is not the wrong, and 2017 01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 2: you just can't control people, especially your kids. At the 2018 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,080 Speaker 2: end of it. But here's a little edit for some clarity. 2019 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: Everyone asks if I was Indian, and the answer is yes, 2020 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm Indian, but not from India. My sister got into 2021 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,680 Speaker 1: my house with a spare key I gave her and 2022 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,120 Speaker 1: I trusted her to use it with my knowledge. But 2023 01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,120 Speaker 1: since she breached my trust, I have taken it away 2024 01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,120 Speaker 1: from her and my parents. I don't think I can 2025 01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,519 Speaker 1: go no contact with my parents, but thank you everyone 2026 01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:38,560 Speaker 1: for your opinion. 2027 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:39,439 Speaker 2: And take on this issue. 2028 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,040 Speaker 1: I definitely will get some distance between us and try 2029 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,360 Speaker 1: to make them understand, but if they still try to 2030 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,560 Speaker 1: be difficult, I'll have to go no contact for a 2031 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,080 Speaker 1: few weeks at least to make them realize I'm legit 2032 01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,599 Speaker 1: about this. Thank you again. As for my youngest sister. 2033 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,280 Speaker 1: She can't live with me now, even though I would 2034 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,280 Speaker 1: love to take her in, but she's also planning to 2035 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,679 Speaker 1: move in with me once she turns eighteen. 2036 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:00,519 Speaker 2: My parents are to wear with this. 2037 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for the context, op, but yeah, I'm curious, like, 2038 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,519 Speaker 1: for anyone in the comments that has a religious upbringing, 2039 01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 1: religious family, how did you either stick with it or 2040 01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:12,240 Speaker 1: exit it? Because I mean there's there's also this whole 2041 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,960 Speaker 1: community of like ex Mormons, even on like there's a 2042 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,320 Speaker 1: subred ex Mormons, and they talk about like how they 2043 01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 1: leave the community gracefully or not so gracefully, right, so 2044 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,559 Speaker 1: they can just live their own lives as they see fit, 2045 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,360 Speaker 1: because not all of them have the same ideals and 2046 01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,439 Speaker 1: morals and as their family did one hundred percent. 2047 01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there are some parents in 2048 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,679 Speaker 2: these situations who have these beliefs because of their religion 2049 01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 2: where they want to you know, kind of control orchestra 2050 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,519 Speaker 2: arrange the marriage and things of that nature. And again, 2051 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,160 Speaker 2: like I said before, I understand if that's what they've 2052 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 2: been kind of essentially indoctrinated to believe like their whole life, 2053 01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,040 Speaker 2: I understand how they get there, but ultimately. 2054 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,360 Speaker 1: It's your kid's choice now once, once your kid has 2055 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,240 Speaker 1: flown the coop. I mean, you can only suggest things 2056 01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 1: you can't control exactly. Well, what we'd love to hear 2057 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:04,080 Speaker 1: two sides of the coin. Either your religious exit stories 2058 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,880 Speaker 1: or you know your parents being controlling stories or your 2059 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,759 Speaker 1: best someone walked in while you were doing it stories. 2060 01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:16,520 Speaker 1: Oh dude, those ones got to be good thing. Juicy, slimy, 2061 01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,639 Speaker 1: oh drenched in sweat? Oh God, I want to hear those. 2062 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:20,960 Speaker 1: Put them in the comments. 2063 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,200 Speaker 2: My dad stole my mom's most prized possession during the divorce, 2064 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,400 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna steal it back, am I the ale 2065 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 2: It was the pegging paraphernalia prize possession, superprised. So my 2066 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,400 Speaker 2: dad and I twenty five mail, aren't close and I 2067 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,320 Speaker 2: was never interested in having a relationship with him. He 2068 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,800 Speaker 2: was a type of guy that was out all the 2069 01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,920 Speaker 2: time with his friends and never home. My mom divorced 2070 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,640 Speaker 2: him when I was twelve, and it got ugly. Sometime 2071 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 2: during the divorce we came home and stuff was missing. 2072 01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,320 Speaker 2: Not his stuff, by the way, because that was cleaned 2073 01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 2: out when he left. So yeah, he's taking from the family. Geez. 2074 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,320 Speaker 2: One of the things missing was my mom's bracelet that 2075 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,840 Speaker 2: she kept in a small box under some stuff in 2076 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,160 Speaker 2: the closet. This bracelet was super special to her. Her 2077 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,000 Speaker 2: parents were toxic af but my mom was really close 2078 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,040 Speaker 2: to her English teacher slash mentor in high school, who 2079 01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,040 Speaker 2: was like a mom to her. Her teacher gave her 2080 01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,680 Speaker 2: that bracelet at her high school graduation and my mom 2081 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,360 Speaker 2: kept it all these years. Wow. My dad knew she 2082 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,840 Speaker 2: treasured it, and who else would look in that specific 2083 01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,040 Speaker 2: place and take only a bracelet when there was other 2084 01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 2: stuff in the house. She knew it was him too, 2085 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,680 Speaker 2: but he always played dumb. The divorce was finalized and 2086 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,760 Speaker 2: we didn't see my dad after that. My mom never 2087 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:37,320 Speaker 2: got it back. Last June she got the VID and 2088 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 2: unfortunately didn't make it. Oh No, I was broken over that. 2089 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,120 Speaker 2: Still am I guess glad at least me, my sister 2090 01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,440 Speaker 2: and my stepdad have each other for support. Around October, 2091 01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:50,840 Speaker 2: my sister told me that my dad wants to talk 2092 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,600 Speaker 2: to me, so she gave him my number. He apologized 2093 01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,280 Speaker 2: for being a piece of shit Dad and asked if 2094 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,680 Speaker 2: we could meet to talk at his place. I was 2095 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,680 Speaker 2: ready to straight up say no, oh, but then I 2096 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,720 Speaker 2: remembered he stole her bracelet and maybe there was a 2097 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 2: chance to get it back. I've asked my sister before 2098 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,400 Speaker 2: to push him about it, since they talk, but she 2099 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,880 Speaker 2: only asked him once and left it at that. I 2100 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,800 Speaker 2: decided I could handle one visit just to see if 2101 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 2: he has it, so I told him i'd hear him out. So, yeah, 2102 01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 2: I met at this place. We caught up on stuff. 2103 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,240 Speaker 2: He told me his sorry story about being immature and 2104 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 2: too focused on stuff that wasn't more important than being 2105 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,799 Speaker 2: a dad or whatever. I ended up bringing the bracelet 2106 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,280 Speaker 2: up and how important that was to me since my 2107 01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,800 Speaker 2: mom's not here anymore. He kept trying to act like 2108 01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,599 Speaker 2: it wasn't him, until I said, the only way I'd 2109 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,600 Speaker 2: consider having a father son relationship is if he just 2110 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,559 Speaker 2: stopped with that and gave me my mom's bracelet, which 2111 01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,160 Speaker 2: also like, if you're trying to like reconnect, why would 2112 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:47,320 Speaker 2: you lie about that. 2113 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like he's so embarrassed about it that he's 2114 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,160 Speaker 1: like possible, he doesn't even want to admit it to himself. 2115 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:54,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was valuable or if he 2116 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,320 Speaker 2: sold it and he was like, oh I like it. 2117 01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:58,519 Speaker 4: I sold it a long time ago, yikes. 2118 01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:02,559 Speaker 2: But he finally gave and thank god he actually kept 2119 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:03,800 Speaker 2: it instead of throwing it out. 2120 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if it was maybe more of a spikee thing. Oh, 2121 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: it was one hundred percent of spite thing. Yeah, he 2122 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: was stealing it just to make his ex wife feel terrible. 2123 01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 1: He apologized for taking it and knew that it was 2124 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,679 Speaker 1: super childish. I was just happy to have it back, 2125 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,639 Speaker 1: but mad my mom didn't get it before she passed away. 2126 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,599 Speaker 1: I never guaranteed my dad a relationship. I just said 2127 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,200 Speaker 1: I'd consider it, but I already made up my mind 2128 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,840 Speaker 1: that I don't want anything to do with him. It's 2129 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,280 Speaker 1: been months since our meeting, and my sister is pissed 2130 01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,800 Speaker 1: because my dad is disappointed I haven't talked to him. 2131 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,200 Speaker 1: She says I was a huge piece of crap for 2132 01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,639 Speaker 1: making him think we'd reconcile. My only goal was getting 2133 01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,000 Speaker 1: the bracelet back, and I wouldn't have talked to him 2134 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,160 Speaker 1: in the first place if it wasn't for that. So 2135 01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 1: that's why I wonder if I'm the a hole. 2136 01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,479 Speaker 2: My sister is biased here since she was little when 2137 01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,559 Speaker 2: they split up and has a different version of him, 2138 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,080 Speaker 2: So I mean, I think the big question for everyone 2139 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,080 Speaker 2: watching is is Op the a hole for, you know, 2140 01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,560 Speaker 2: basically just getting the bracelet back and not building the relationship. 2141 01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the dad's definitely a hole, but 2142 01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:06,679 Speaker 1: it seems like he's trying to change. It does seems 2143 01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 1: like he's trying to change, although he did continue lying 2144 01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:12,639 Speaker 1: about it when he eventually asked, that's a red flag 2145 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,200 Speaker 1: for me. Maybe not maybe a red flag for that's 2146 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 1: pretty red flag. So if he lied about it a 2147 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,040 Speaker 1: bunch of times before, I'll look conflicted because he did 2148 01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: eventually give it. But you know, it seems like he 2149 01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,600 Speaker 1: did so much terrible stuff in the past that I 2150 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,160 Speaker 1: don't think Op needs to have a relationship with him. 2151 01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she didn't necessarily lie. She said she'd consider it, 2152 01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,599 Speaker 2: and she's done her consideration, decided not. And I think 2153 01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,640 Speaker 2: too that like we don't know the exact timeframe that 2154 01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,720 Speaker 2: this all happened in. I think I think I said 2155 01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,360 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, so like this is a very 2156 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,160 Speaker 2: fresh thing. Like Op I mentioned when he was twelve 2157 01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,559 Speaker 2: that he basically accepted that his dad was not going 2158 01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 2: to be engaged with him anymore. So like that's a 2159 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:54,200 Speaker 2: lot many years in a few weeks, So I don't 2160 01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,719 Speaker 2: think he's a hole just because of the time it'll 2161 01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,439 Speaker 2: take him. Like the dad, it's like, hey, you did 2162 01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,479 Speaker 2: years of damage. You have to put in a lot 2163 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,960 Speaker 2: of time and effort to building that trust back if 2164 01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,200 Speaker 2: you want to, truly, and it's going to take time. 2165 01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:07,639 Speaker 2: I don't think opca hole. 2166 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't either. But you know who's never the ahole? 2167 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:14,280 Speaker 1: Our beautiful commenters. Oh, comment your stories and tell us 2168 01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,479 Speaker 1: the freak up things your parents did do. My uber 2169 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,000 Speaker 1: driver just got into a wreck, so I left. I 2170 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,120 Speaker 1: probably should have stayed, but I don't want to. 2171 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 2: Am I the a whole. I don't care if you're 2172 01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,000 Speaker 2: bleeding out, Oh I'm about to die. Well, I'm about 2173 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:25,960 Speaker 2: to be late for my meeting. 2174 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have brunch with Carla. You can deal with 2175 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 1: your afterlife. I gotta deal with this life. I spent 2176 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,040 Speaker 1: sixty dollars on a ride out of town towards a 2177 01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,920 Speaker 1: casino tonight. We needed to take a turn, but emergency 2178 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,120 Speaker 1: vehicles were blocking the highway exit. Oddly enough, there were 2179 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,880 Speaker 1: dudes racing their cars to the exit before mine, so 2180 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,639 Speaker 1: we looped around and found ourselves on a long stretch 2181 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 1: of side road perils in the main route This part 2182 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,600 Speaker 1: of the area is a weird mix of warehouses with suburbs. 2183 01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:54,240 Speaker 2: Out of the city. This long road is apparently perfect 2184 01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,080 Speaker 2: for street racing, and we end up going one way 2185 01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,720 Speaker 2: while cars are burning down the other lanes. Kind of 2186 01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,679 Speaker 2: cool looking. Actually, it seems like a big Friday night party. 2187 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,559 Speaker 2: It is kind of cool okey, but super annoying. 2188 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, super annoying if you're an Uber driver trying to 2189 01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:10,200 Speaker 1: not kill your passengers. So we passed the end of 2190 01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 1: the line where kids are lined up before taking off, 2191 01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,679 Speaker 1: and one of them crosses in front of us after 2192 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,200 Speaker 1: his run to get in and we smash. 2193 01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:22,559 Speaker 2: Oh god, and it felt so good. Smash. Now. 2194 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,640 Speaker 1: The Uber driver might have been going ten miles per 2195 01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,680 Speaker 1: hour faster than he should have been, but with all 2196 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,519 Speaker 1: the chaos, it seems safe enough. As he hit the brakes, 2197 01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,920 Speaker 1: the Ralphee on the bus, I'm in danger, meme across 2198 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 1: my mind. I'm sure everyone else who has been in 2199 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,920 Speaker 1: an accident knows that slow motion feeling. I get out 2200 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,120 Speaker 1: of the back and ask everyone if they are okay. 2201 01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,040 Speaker 1: And it was obvious that there was some bad cosmetic damage, 2202 01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:47,400 Speaker 1: maybe some structural, but nobody was hurt at this point. 2203 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:51,000 Speaker 1: My destination is a mile away and last call is 2204 01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:52,120 Speaker 1: less than an hour. 2205 01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 2: Man's got his priorities. I gotta get drunk. Come on. 2206 01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 1: I look at the driver and tell him I am 2207 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,760 Speaker 1: not mad at him at all, and he can have 2208 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:05,080 Speaker 1: my number, but I'm not sticking around. The racers seem cool. 2209 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,479 Speaker 1: But did I leave him in a dangerous position? I 2210 01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,639 Speaker 1: don't think so. Nobody wants the police crashing the party, 2211 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,680 Speaker 1: and I simply did not want to be involved at 2212 01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,640 Speaker 1: that point. So would I be the asshole if I 2213 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 1: reported it? 2214 01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:15,599 Speaker 2: Though? 2215 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 1: In the app to get find money back, not only 2216 01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:24,240 Speaker 1: does he leave the driver to get a drink, but 2217 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:25,960 Speaker 1: he wants to report the driver too. 2218 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:27,559 Speaker 2: That's funny. 2219 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,439 Speaker 1: He took me nineteen of the twenty miles, but then 2220 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 1: again I did have to walk, and sixty bucks is 2221 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,080 Speaker 1: sixty bucks for me. Then again, he may need it more. 2222 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 3: Three. 2223 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:38,599 Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie and pretend I was hurt 2224 01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,719 Speaker 1: or anything, so that is off the table. Okay, Edit, hey'all, 2225 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 1: it's sober and not rattled me. It is legal for 2226 01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,920 Speaker 1: a passenger to leave the scene per my state's law. Okay, 2227 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:48,559 Speaker 1: so what do you think? 2228 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2229 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:53,680 Speaker 2: I mean, like ultimately kind of ope, he was uninvolved. 2230 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,680 Speaker 2: I feel like low key is kind of out of 2231 01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,920 Speaker 2: their hands and the driver wasn't hurt. If someone was hurt, definitely, 2232 01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:00,920 Speaker 2: it's like okay, wait for an am on it's like something. 2233 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:02,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, no one's hurt. This is now 2234 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,800 Speaker 2: just an issue between the two of them because it's 2235 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,240 Speaker 2: the cars, right. So to me, I'm like, yeah, like 2236 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,280 Speaker 2: go ahead and leave, like there's nothing you can really 2237 01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,920 Speaker 2: do on the on the refund, the reporting, I mean, 2238 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,439 Speaker 2: you didn't get into a crash. Yeah, it's a tough one. 2239 01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean like if the Uber driver, because of their negligence, 2240 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,320 Speaker 2: caused a crash, for sure, like give me, give me 2241 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,080 Speaker 2: a refund at a bare minimum. Right. 2242 01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:26,360 Speaker 1: If it happened to me, I probably wouldn't try to 2243 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,800 Speaker 1: get my money back from Uber. Me four years ago 2244 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,880 Speaker 1: might have college me sixty bucks and sixty bucks depending 2245 01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,560 Speaker 1: on how it hurt my neck is I might be 2246 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:37,160 Speaker 1: like called Jacob dot com, let me get some lawsuit 2247 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,479 Speaker 1: money out of this, but probably not now, and I 2248 01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,160 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have done it that honestly. 2249 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Is the money coming out of the Uber driver 2250 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:46,439 Speaker 2: or from Uber? 2251 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,879 Speaker 1: I think coming out of Uber because usually the drivers 2252 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,800 Speaker 1: are insured that's what I'm saying. But they probably might 2253 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 1: lose their driving thing. Actually yeah, wow, that's like so 2254 01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,720 Speaker 1: much worse, so I probably wouldn't report. Yeah, I don't 2255 01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,479 Speaker 1: think that's the move, which it doesn't. OP was just asking, 2256 01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,840 Speaker 1: as I contemplate it more, I am going to seek 2257 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:05,760 Speaker 1: my money back. If that makes me an asshole, so 2258 01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,519 Speaker 1: be it. I consider it justice. I'm the one who 2259 01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,600 Speaker 1: paid for the service that was not fulfilled. I'm the 2260 01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:12,640 Speaker 1: one sitting next to a crumpled door, and it was 2261 01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,200 Speaker 1: at risk of both drivers being stupid. 2262 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,120 Speaker 2: Screw both of those guys. Yeah, I mean I totally 2263 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,720 Speaker 2: hear OP in that perspective, like you were involved in 2264 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 2: an accident and the driver's going faster than he should have. 2265 01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,640 Speaker 2: That is true. I guess I can't really blame there 2266 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,000 Speaker 2: for me. It's like if there was no ultimate, like 2267 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:29,880 Speaker 2: true harm done, I just had to walk a mile. 2268 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:31,439 Speaker 2: It's a story, you know. 2269 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not one to like go and leave 2270 01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,760 Speaker 1: bad reviews even when things are bad. I was just like, 2271 01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it takes more mental energy than it's worth. 2272 01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:38,760 Speaker 2: But what would you do? 2273 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,920 Speaker 1: Would you leave a bad review or would you try 2274 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,400 Speaker 1: to get your money back from this crashed uber. Put 2275 01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:44,960 Speaker 1: your answers in the comments below. 2276 01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:46,679 Speaker 4: We just love hearing from you in general. 2277 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,720 Speaker 2: We'd love to see your comments. See you on the 2278 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:49,280 Speaker 2: next serie.