WEBVTT - First-Time Super Bowl Champion Draft

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're back at the base

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<v Speaker 1>of the mounta and I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Westling podcast studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to say that name.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to say the name of my friend Jordan Rodrigue,

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<v Speaker 1>fresh off a starring role, doing a great job hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the show a week ago. Are you ready for season

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<v Speaker 1>three of NFL Daily?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fired up for season three of NFL Daily. It

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<v Speaker 3>really never makes me appreciate your job more than when

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<v Speaker 3>I have to sit in that chair for multiple shows.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a terrifying and exhilarating experience, and I like

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm sitting right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's very egocentric of me to call this season

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<v Speaker 1>three just because it happens to be when I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>from vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Started I think that's your name's on the show in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mid July a couple of years ago. So we thank everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I mentioned the base camp. Later on in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, inspired by my recent trip atop Mount Fuji,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to rank the teams who have never won

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<v Speaker 1>a title most likely to reach the summit.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I did there?

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<v Speaker 3>Mmmm, it never worked for those people, but maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>could work for US.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty eight hours ago. I was still on Mount Fuji

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<v Speaker 1>and this is sad. I'd listened to your shows after

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<v Speaker 1>I got back down, and you guys were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he can't unplug from football.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pretty unplugged until the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to admit I was on the top

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<v Speaker 1>of Fuji that the sun's coming up, were way above

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<v Speaker 1>the clouds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just beautiful. It was. It was pretty exhilarating.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the thoughts I had just sitting there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's total quiet, there's a lot of people up there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, it's really weird. I have a podcast in

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<v Speaker 1>two days. What are we going to talk about? Of

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<v Speaker 1>course forty eight hours from then.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course that thought just crystallizes it into your brain.

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<v Speaker 1>The time zone being fourteen hours gave me a little

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<v Speaker 1>extra time, but it was like, huh, and so what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. We're gonna talk about the teams that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be reaching the summit for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing sometimes. Now I've gotten to know you come

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good friends. Over the last couple of years, Greg,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've noticed your off seasons and your trips. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like pretty inspired by them. Honestly, if you'll excuse

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<v Speaker 3>like a little earnest moment, Oh, it's you just go

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<v Speaker 3>do stuff like you just summoned Malfuji for example. Like

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<v Speaker 3>you just go and your family, you guys just go

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<v Speaker 3>and you do stuff and you experience things and you

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<v Speaker 3>get inspiration from things. I mean, really, this inspired the

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<v Speaker 3>segment we're doing today.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I mean, you'll take inspiration wherever it comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I am very sore.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't tell you that the coming down the mountain sneaky, maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>Harder you didn't just roll, you'd speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe harder than going up it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure we'll be We'll be sprinkling in little

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<v Speaker 1>bits of Fuji and the trip over the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will do some news before doing our rankings

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. We're about nine days away from the

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<v Speaker 1>first full teams reporting to training camps, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>the last truly quiet week of the NFL offseason. We think,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know, something could pop up, but the first

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<v Speaker 1>week or the last week rather where teams will not

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<v Speaker 1>be showing up. Some rookies are showing up a little

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in that, but those are the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>teams and then the rest of the teams are all

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<v Speaker 1>working out and will be daily by then, but they

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<v Speaker 1>show up by July twenty eighth. But let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>the news, starting with your Rams. Aaron Donald over the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend working out at the RAMS facility. This was Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ with the scoop. That's how you know it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got pretty good accuracy lately. It's just amazing they're

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<v Speaker 1>breaking football news in full pads. Any thoughts about whether

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<v Speaker 1>this means he's back or not.

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<v Speaker 3>My first thought was picturing the I think apartment building

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<v Speaker 3>where they were filming into the Rams practice facility. That

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<v Speaker 3>was a much discussed topic when they first opened that

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<v Speaker 3>new facility about what if people just got up into

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<v Speaker 3>some of these apartments that were all around the facility

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<v Speaker 3>and started filming. I think that this is a real possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I've thought that Aaron Donald could come back for quite

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<v Speaker 3>some time. The reason I think that is less so

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<v Speaker 3>some of the reporting and some of the excitement around

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<v Speaker 3>this particular offseason, but more so the Rams tried to

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<v Speaker 3>trade for Miles Garrett in twenty twenty two, and part

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<v Speaker 3>of that rationale was to bring Aaron Donald like this

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<v Speaker 3>player who he'd always really admired from Afar and really

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<v Speaker 3>like basically stave off any retirement thoughts from Aaron Donald,

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<v Speaker 3>who started thinking about life after football after winning that

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<v Speaker 3>first Super Bowl. So I think this is really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also knowing Aaron Donald a little bit, knowing

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<v Speaker 3>his habits, he does work out at the facility a lot. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this was a little different because he had pads with him,

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<v Speaker 3>which was pretty cool, I think, but he does work

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<v Speaker 3>out there pretty frequently throughout the course of the off

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<v Speaker 3>season and even in season, people will see him around

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<v Speaker 3>the facility. So I'm like, I think that this could

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<v Speaker 3>actually happen. I don't think it actually is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a real thought or a real conversation until we're

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<v Speaker 3>way into the off season, excuse me, way into the

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<v Speaker 3>regular season, even like post trade deadline November. Starting to

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<v Speaker 3>get his legs under him for real. This is like

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<v Speaker 3>sort of an Eric Weddle vibe to me. Okay, less,

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<v Speaker 3>so I want to spend an entire training camp after

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<v Speaker 3>being retired with it, It's just not I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>see him being in training camp or anything like.

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<v Speaker 2>I figured training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that like the earliest possible Aaron Donald return would

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<v Speaker 1>be after training camp up before the season, but hearing

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<v Speaker 1>that he could potentially show up for like the playoff push, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the regular season does make more sense

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<v Speaker 1>if I you know, I'm not a betting man. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to do that here at the NFL. If

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I would say I expect to see Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Donald in Rams colors this year on the field. Adam Schefter,

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<v Speaker 1>for what it's worth, said on Pat McAfee on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Donald just wanted to see how it felt

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<v Speaker 1>with pads On and he just left it at that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his report.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, like you, I think this will happen, truly,

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<v Speaker 3>I do, but I don't think it would happen until.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mentioned the Eric Weddle path, he joined the

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<v Speaker 3>team in what was it early December or late excuse me,

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<v Speaker 3>late December, worked his way from practice squad into starting

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<v Speaker 3>in the Super Bowl. But they gave him time to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. He took the time to actually see if

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<v Speaker 3>it was going to be the right thing for him,

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<v Speaker 3>and it worked out in a very storybook way. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think Aaron Donald knows exactly what his plan would

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<v Speaker 3>be in that case.

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<v Speaker 1>I play potentially twenty games when you can play six

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<v Speaker 1>to nine or whatever it would be depending on their

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<v Speaker 1>playoff run. Also in the news, Daniel Jones reported to

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<v Speaker 1>be cleared to do everything. I believe this was from

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Holder of ESPN and just kind of puts a

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<v Speaker 1>stamp on a story this offseason we've been following that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been a little ahead of what we would have expected.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the opening of training camp he will be allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet they still won't have him in pads too often,

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<v Speaker 1>but he basically is ready to go. And it just

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<v Speaker 1>confirms something I've been thinking, which is at this point

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if he wasn't the Week one starter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and as we remember from some of these Achilles

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<v Speaker 3>tear recoveries over the last couple of seasons, return to

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<v Speaker 3>action doesn't necessarily mean return to full performance. So I

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<v Speaker 3>would still exercise a lot of I think cautious optimism

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of what he would actually be capable of

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<v Speaker 3>doing or the level of play. But it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a miracle some of these surgeries now in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that they're getting players back on the field faster than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely insane, and so I just I'm curious about how

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<v Speaker 3>all of this is going to go. I also was

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<v Speaker 3>on Riley Leonard, what film study watch last year? You

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<v Speaker 3>gave me that really glorious I had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>mileage out of this. Hey, you gave me that really

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<v Speaker 3>glorious assignment. And I was happy to do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for the show. I do whatever it takes for the show, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so I didn't think he was that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he was.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you need to patch, if you need to

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<v Speaker 3>patch pill in guy for a little bit, fine, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Richardson is still on the roster. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case. Week one, the Seahawks were sold while

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<v Speaker 1>I was gone. Actually over the weekend, the venture capitalist

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<v Speaker 1>Vinod Kosla. First time I heard the name out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>So apologies if I got it wrong. Nine point six

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars is the sale price. In some research materials

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<v Speaker 1>I conducted for this very moment, I found out that

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<v Speaker 1>Cosla prefers the term venture assistant, doesn't like the term

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<v Speaker 1>venture capitalist. I mean, if you're able to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>nine point six billion dollar team, I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just embrace the capitalist.

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<v Speaker 3>That screams capitalists like you might not be able to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid the title there man.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the most interesting things about this because obviously don't

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<v Speaker 1>know much about this man, that his wife, Nru Cosla,

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<v Speaker 1>will be the controlling owner. In general, it's the family

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<v Speaker 1>that's running it, according to to Cosla, but his wife

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the one representing the team at

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a league meetings and whatnot. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>who will get to be familiar with, assuming they get approved.

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<v Speaker 1>And that he was a minority San Francisco forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>Ers owner as recently, you know, just bought into the

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<v Speaker 1>team like a year ago, like three percent of the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll have to sell that stake in the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers before he is officially confirmed. But yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the biggest price ever for an NFL team. It

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy to think that the Waltons of Walmart and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the kind of money that you now need

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<v Speaker 1>to have to get into the NFL, which I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel great about. Bought the Broncos four years ago now

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<v Speaker 1>for under five million dollars billion dollars five million, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be for under five million dollars. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we're almost to ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I remember, I mean I covered the Panthers sale.

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<v Speaker 3>I covered the process and the and the tax, the

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<v Speaker 3>different tax possibilities, and the two different states, and like

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<v Speaker 3>all of these different things that factored into that sale.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're not even looking at half of what that cost.

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<v Speaker 3>This some like four billion, four and a half billion

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, and now it's only it's been less

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<v Speaker 3>than a decade since that sale went through. This is

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<v Speaker 3>already also three billion more than the Commander's sale three.

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<v Speaker 1>Point two five billion, two point twenty seven five billion

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<v Speaker 1>for David Tepper in twenty eighteen, which discussed the show.

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<v Speaker 4>This as much it's crazy inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>It well, and it's not great because you now have

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to put together these consortiums of it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the rest of society. It's almost tame to think

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<v Speaker 1>back to the types of people who could try to

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<v Speaker 1>buy NFL teams before, and in theory it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like someone who really hit it big and was from

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<v Speaker 1>that town or had some connection or just always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to run a team, and they didn't even look at

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<v Speaker 1>it necessarily as a way to just like print print money,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas now it's just the billionaires are running every aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of society and you have.

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<v Speaker 2>To be ultra ultra ultra ultra, ultra, ultra.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultra rich to even consider getting into buying an NFL team,

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason to do it is you'll always be

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<v Speaker 1>able to sell for a profit.

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<v Speaker 4>Except the green Bay Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, guys, speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Of which, former Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll end the news here. I just thought this was cute.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, had a Instagram post over the weekend he

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<v Speaker 1>got together with a bunch of his teammates with with

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers, including DK Metcalf, Michael Pittman, Roman Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there? Scronic? I think?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a whole bunch of people with the hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>like last Rodeo and they're all in like cowboy gear.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason I wanted to mention it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first picture he posted was very fuzzy, and then people

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<v Speaker 1>made fun of him, and then a few hours later

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<v Speaker 1>he just posted a clearer version of that same picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but left up the original fuzzy one because it had

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<v Speaker 1>the other ones in the carousel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just very very old guy moved there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, boomer boomer move that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can just see this happening in like December, January

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. He's on the Pat McAfee show, and they

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<v Speaker 3>asked him about one last rodeo and you know, so

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<v Speaker 3>that really means you're done after this, right, And then

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers very coyly sort of smirking at the camera

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<v Speaker 3>and saying, well, that could have just meant that I

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about the last week off before we're training camp,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and in the summer, last rodeo of the summer.

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<v Speaker 3>I get totally Did you like my impression?

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>That was.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunate, I would say, not pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, well you will never unhear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that he's branding his final season. It just

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<v Speaker 1>makes it just makes the whole thing official. It's former teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Isaiah McDuffie signed a one year extension

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<v Speaker 1>with the Green Bay Packers. How about that linebacker. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a break. Why not, it's the cleanest time to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We're gonna come back. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>fun segment for you. Twelve teams in NFL history have

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<v Speaker 1>never won the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan, it seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>Too many, doesn't That seem like a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 1>to have never won the Super Bowl. There's a league

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty two teams and there's still twelve that have

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<v Speaker 1>never won.

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<v Speaker 2>The Super Bowl. This supposed to be the League of parody.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean when you look at how many appearances

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<v Speaker 3>many of them have, it makes a little bit more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Four teams have not made any appearance. Yes, and yes

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<v Speaker 1>that includes some new teams like the Jaguars in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not that new, like they're twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>old or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>By now, try harder, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just we don't have as many first time winners

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<v Speaker 1>as you would think. More on that in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are going to draft with some serious stakes here.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan teams most likely to win their first ever Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in back on NFL Daily, Back from Japan, back

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<v Speaker 1>off Mount Fuji. Shout out to one of my best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Dy've Bennett, best man at my wedding, who I

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<v Speaker 1>climbed Fuji with and who also is very sore. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a few days later, as I as am I

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<v Speaker 1>when I was atop the mountain Jordan, I thought, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what's you know, what's the first segment I can come

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<v Speaker 1>up with to use this as content? And as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty of thirty two teams have won the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's not as many first time winners as you

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<v Speaker 1>would think. We have not had a first time winner

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<v Speaker 1>of the Super Bowl since twenty seventeen. That was the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first time they won. The Seahawks were

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<v Speaker 1>the last one before that in twenty fourteen. Both those

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<v Speaker 1>teams have doubled up now each have two. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>been two first time winners since twenty ten, so it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen too often. But there are twelve teams eligible

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<v Speaker 1>to be drafted in this draft. Of the teams, the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise is most likely to win their first Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And if this happens, Jordan, the team that we drafted

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<v Speaker 1>for us will earn us a prize. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>have we finished, like deciding what the prize is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, at minimum, we do know that it is public

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<v Speaker 3>celebration on NFL daily and also dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I suggested that as we continue to go, if

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as the years go by, we just simply

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<v Speaker 3>raise the stakes. So at one point one of us

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<v Speaker 3>is going to owe the other a kidney, Okay, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the stakes will just increase as time goes

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<v Speaker 3>if our teams don't win.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so here are the terms we're draft seeing. These

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<v Speaker 1>twelve teams will each end up with six. It could

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<v Speaker 1>take years. We are going to have to keep NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Daily going at the very least until one of these

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<v Speaker 1>teams wins the super Bowl. So if it takes it's

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<v Speaker 1>been nine years since the last first time winning. If

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<v Speaker 1>it takes another nine years, you're locked in. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is bonding.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is binding here and bonding, but I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll give an extra little wrinkle to you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>we get to a conference championship weekend this year and

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<v Speaker 1>one of our teams is still left, the drama will

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<v Speaker 1>be up there. We held a draft, We held a

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<v Speaker 1>random selection of who got the first pick. Before it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was legit, right. I did not want

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<v Speaker 1>you saying it was not legit. We had a random

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<v Speaker 1>numbered generator.

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<v Speaker 4>Our guys will never believe who gets the first pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Our producer Quab witnessed it, so there was no chicanery.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did get the first I wasn't gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>be good and give it to you because in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one team I wanted more than the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get which team that I really wanted the

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<v Speaker 1>first pick for.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're going Bills here.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going with the Houston Texans because ultimately hate

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<v Speaker 1>you right now, I want to annoy you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one is I want to be on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of my son and something that I can root for.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want even just a small bit of me

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<v Speaker 1>mildly annoyed when the Houston Texans win the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>this year. And then I evaluated this, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a few different ways. But the most important things are ownership,

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<v Speaker 1>coach GM quarterback ownership has been pretty stable. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put them in the top, but it's been stable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let this group execute their vision. But we've done the

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<v Speaker 1>GM rankings, We've talked about the coaching. That's as good

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<v Speaker 1>a coach GM combo as there is in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in CJ. Stroud, like I'd rather have like

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<v Speaker 1>a top five quarterback. Sure, But but you add all

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<v Speaker 1>those together and even if my son rooting interest was

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<v Speaker 1>not involved, they would easily be my top two. But

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think they would be my first pick because

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a one year pick if it was

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<v Speaker 1>most likely to win this year. Maybe the Bills are

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<v Speaker 1>a little ahead, maybe maybe not. But if you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>me five five years, I like this Texans squad that.

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<v Speaker 4>Would have been my number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's why I wanted the one pick.

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<v Speaker 3>So first of all, how dare you? Second of all,

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with everything you're saying. When I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the sort of tiers that I would rank these

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<v Speaker 3>teams in, I was thinking about teams that had this

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<v Speaker 3>in this top tier of draft choices, above average to

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<v Speaker 3>elite quarterbacks with at least five prime seasons ahead of them.

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<v Speaker 4>And c J.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud is is obviously above average and could be in

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<v Speaker 3>his career elite, and we've seen flashes of elite play

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<v Speaker 3>from him. I really appreciate that we were having I

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<v Speaker 3>think a little bit more nuanced conversations about c J.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud through the year and into the off season, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think that a lot of people just totally wipe

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<v Speaker 3>out the fact that he had no run game. They

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<v Speaker 3>blame everything on either the offensive line or on CJ himself.

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<v Speaker 3>When establishing that run game and sort of re establishing

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<v Speaker 3>what sets him up for success is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>really important for him this year, and we've seen true

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<v Speaker 3>superstar potential from him. So I think that's a really

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<v Speaker 3>high upside pick. And I also was looking at ownership.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking at does your head coach give you

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<v Speaker 3>an edge, or or a premier coach on your team

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<v Speaker 3>give you an edge in some way, and or does

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback do enough to lift the floor of the coach.

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<v Speaker 4>And in that case, I think you can know who

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>He's officially above average. CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Strod by the way, because he came in fifteenth on

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Daily thirty two Quarterback ring that came out

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<v Speaker 1>over July fourth week when we were both off.

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<v Speaker 4>You just buried it.

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<v Speaker 3>You just dropped it, you know, that fourth of July

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<v Speaker 3>holiday news dump, because knew people would yell at you.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't put the rankings up until today. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was going to sit up there for

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<v Speaker 1>five or six days. I was trying to think of

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<v Speaker 1>a good spot for it. But yes, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people angry about CJ. Stradley thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>too high. Actually wild to me. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Jayden Daniels like he's too low. There at thirteen Washington

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<v Speaker 1>radio wants to talk to me. They only want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk when they're mad about one of your rankings. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a feeling both of us had the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>number one, and so that's why I made sure it

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<v Speaker 1>was legit.

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<v Speaker 2>You are up with the number two overall pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going Buffalo Bills here.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the Josh Allen factor falls right into my category

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<v Speaker 3>of above average to elite, in his case, elite quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe with at least five prime seasons ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of him, I think that we have yet to see

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<v Speaker 3>truly if there is a real advantage in an edge

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<v Speaker 3>that Joe Brady gives to this offense gives to this

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<v Speaker 3>team as a head coach, I do think he gave

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<v Speaker 3>them a real shot at edge as an offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I worry as much about the

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<v Speaker 3>front office, understanding that if they have the coach and

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback set into place, then either the front office

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<v Speaker 3>has got to evolve and pivot in certain ways or

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<v Speaker 3>ownership will make a change and reinstall different people in

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<v Speaker 3>that regard. So I think this is a team that organizationally,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel confident in. Famously, they have agonizing reasons as

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<v Speaker 3>to why they have never actually summitted Mount Fuji here.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that in terms of teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>built to do this to finally get over the hump,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just that I think they are, it's also

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<v Speaker 3>that I think.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they have no other choice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested when you're thinking about the different factors, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have been second for me too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mostly about Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just they've done it like they have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the divisional round six straight years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I are you into analytics? A lot of analytics talk

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<v Speaker 1>with like the NBA these days, Jalen Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you're asking me if I'm if I'm into analytics,

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<v Speaker 3>here's something.

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<v Speaker 4>You've known me for? How long? Yes, Greg, I'm into analytics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for the listener, you know. Here's some analytics. Six

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<v Speaker 1>straight division rounds?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? How many teams are in the division rounds? Six?

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<v Speaker 4>Grade two?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Total? In the NFL?

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<v Speaker 1>How many teams make it to the division Oh too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the divisional round. I'm saying in the entire NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>eight teams? Eight teams?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you were saying how many times? Yeah? Ok

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<v Speaker 4>So eighteen, you have to rephrase your question.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave made it six straight, right, Yes, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>analytics would say you do that two more times. That's

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<v Speaker 1>eight times your due, you know, yeah, you just you're

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<v Speaker 1>just up. If you make eight straight, you're you're bound

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<v Speaker 1>to win one of those on.

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<v Speaker 2>Average two time.

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<v Speaker 3>How many times over the next two weeks do you

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 3>think you're going to roast me for misunderstanding your questions?

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<v Speaker 1>Not many, because I have I have so many more

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable positions. But I'm curious and we'll keep going. But

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I am curious when you were thinking about yeah, ownership quarterback.

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>To me, this is a different exercise than you know,

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 1>just ranking the teams this year. I'm curious how you

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>slot those because I quarterback back at the top is

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<v Speaker 1>yea by a decent amount, the most important I think

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<v Speaker 1>for this exercise. I actually think ownership might be second,

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<v Speaker 1>just barely ahead of coach and then GM front office.

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Sorry to all the you know you gentlemen out there,

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that would be lower coach. Coach would be a little

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 1>closer to ownership, and then GM would be less.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it was a sliding scale, right, If there's

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 3>a proven track record of success or there's a proven

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 3>real collaboration with the quarterback, regardless of whether the quarterback

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 3>is elite. I think that the quarterback and coach tandem

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 3>is a sliding scale when it's not a totally elite quarterback.

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 3>And similarly, I think that ownership and executive team are

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 3>also a sliding scale, just depending on how good the

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 3>quarterback is. So ultimately, the quarterback is absolutely of the

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 3>utmost importance for me. But we'll go later on in

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 3>this draft. A team that I have sort of in

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the middle of all of this, I don't buy into

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 3>their head coach at all, but I do buy into

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback big time, and I think that lifts the

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 3>floor of the rest of the organization.

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 4>So that was the ultimate factor for me.

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the Chargers are my pick at number three.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice ownership, eh yeah, I think you just got to

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:31.119
<v Speaker 1>look at the history, eh at best, Like, yeah, they're

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 1>essentially playing another team's theydia and I love that.

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 2>But they got the quarterback, they got the coach.

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>The GM is solid by you know evidence so far,

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and obviously Mike McDaniel, you know, maybe gives Herbert a

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a boost to try to like win

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>this thing. For me this year or next year, maybe

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>while he's there and before it gets another job, like

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>they could win now. But even if Jim harbab burns

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.160
<v Speaker 1>out at some point, which he has done in the past,

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you have Herbert and two young tackles. That feels like

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a nice foundation for me to take them.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Off the board. Yeah.

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 4>And it's also.

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that I was thinking about when

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 3>we are thinking about quarterbacks and the scale above average

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 3>to elite, is how many more prime seasons do I

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>think they have? Because again, they could win it this year,

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Some of these teams could be all or nothing this

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 3>year over a long period of time, I want to

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 3>know that they could repeat this type of excellence as well.

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 3>And justin Herbert, to me, that's a minimum five prime

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 3>seasons ahead of him in my opinion, and to your point,

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the offensive build, minus a couple of

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 3>players here and there, they really are poised to continue

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 3>to maximize justin Herbert's window, and I really like it.

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I think that with this I would have normally factored

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 3>in ownership quite a bit to drop them a little

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 3>bit more had it not been for the clear power

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 3>dynamic that we saw Jim Harbaugh take on immediately as

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 3>he got into that building. So he's he's running the

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 3>franchise right. So I feel a little bit more confident

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>over a long period of time that they can break through.

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>They've had two great quarterbacks back to back, and they've

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>been in the playoffs a ton in this century now

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>where the ownership comes in. Have they maximized that they've

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>only gotten a one conference title game in that whole time,

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of wild card losses and whatnot. The one

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>major regret, by the way, I have for that quarterback's

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>draft is I took Herbert over Stafford. And I wouldn't

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have done that if I could go get I just

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>did it.

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 4>In the moment you found the horsehead I left in

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 4>your bed.

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I was wrong.

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I should have Stafford fell all the way to seven,

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>which was stupid. It was just for this season only.

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>But I can say when I'm wrong. I think that

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>was the wrong choice. I Erbert at six.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Was not judging, but I was noticing.

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you always are when it comes to Stafford.

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, you're up with number four.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I have the Lions here.

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that it's not only that the Lions have

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 3>an incredibly high ceiling and will continue to do so

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 3>in the Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes era. It's also

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 3>that I trust this new era of their ownership. I

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 3>also think that they're pretty solid to very good pretty

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 3>much across the board. I think solid to very good coaching.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Dan Campbell had a tough year last year, as we saw,

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 3>but I think he hires well. I think he identifies

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 3>talent really well. The front office. Every once in a while,

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 3>they'll make these decisions in the draft that you're like,

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 3>what the heck, and then two years later it makes

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>more sense as to why they made those decisions. So

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 3>I think that solid to very good, including an ownership

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 3>across the board, and including at quarterback above average with

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 3>a really really good running game, can play some in

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 3>a dome, can play some elite football in these key moments.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 3>That's Jared Goff. I think he's got at least five

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 3>prime yeers left. All of these buckets were checked for

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 3>me in terms of putting them at number four overall here,

0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 3>and I actually even had him at number three, right

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 3>above the charge.

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I might.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, I had to pick between two of my

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>favorites because either way I'm gonna be just wanting to

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>fully enjoy. I will be happy to lose this one

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>if the Lions can get there. It was the Goth

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 1>versus Herbert factor for me, but in every other way,

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>the Lions are kind of it's crazy to be in

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>this world where the Lions are a great example right

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>now of a successful stable team. Build your buddy. JJ

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Jansen said, like he didn't have them that high as

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>in his interest ranking just because like, oh, we know

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>who the Lions are.

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>They're good, and like they're they're boring at this point.

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>They're boring. Like if you could have.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Told Lions fans that five or six years ago, I

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>still find them absolutely fascinating that that's a strong choice.

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a strong I think it was

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a clear top four. Then it got a little trickier

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>for me, and I'm gonna go with my gut here,

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>which is go with what we know now, don't worry

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that Joe Burrow might be an ex

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Bengal Eventually. I'm just gonna take them because they do

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>have Joe Burrow, and I just feel like they are

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>going to do everything in their power to control his

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>rights and to keep him playing for them forever. And

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback was the most important person for me, and

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>ultimately they were one series away. You know, they were

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>right there. But the ownership and the coaching and the

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>GM are negatives. Ultimately for me, I could see it

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>this year though, if, like, if I was picking one

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of the teams, you know, to win it this year,

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I think they have just as good a chance as

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>really all these teams that we've listed so far. They're

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>in that ballpark where these five teams would be. Like, Okay,

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I could see it this year, so I will take it.

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Because of Joe.

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 3>I have them a spot below in terms of my

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 3>personal rankings that I did, but I still have them

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 3>in tier one because I have the caveat in here. No,

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't trust the front office, I don't trust ownership,

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't trust coaching. The quarterback lifts the entire floor

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 3>of everything and not only lifts the floor, but puts

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 3>them in a competitive position. And so for me, I

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>agree with you, and I do think he's got several

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 3>good seasons, great seasons left, even though he's had some

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 3>injury issues.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Which people always seem to we just sort of glossom.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a fair one.

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>See, he's got some injury issues, but I do think

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 3>that he is when he's healthy and when he's playing,

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, like the brand of football that we know

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 3>him to play. He is such a organizational catalyst that

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I still had him in my top six basically now

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I had the Bengals at six, but still I had

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>them because of his abilities, because he is an elite quarterback.

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>And the ownership.

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>It's been well documented, you know, some of the difficulties

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>in the Mike Brown era, and now you look at

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the overall record. I mean, they did make three different

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks, and we're going way

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>back to like the early eighties and in the mid eighties,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>but they have you know, then also made the conference

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>title game in addition to that super Bowl with Joe Burrow.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's recent history that they can overcome some of

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But as you know, I've been wanting a

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>coaching change, like they're barely I mean they're actually negative

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>point differential since Zach Taylor, you know, showed up, and

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>they're barely positive even over the last five years, which

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>includes like those good seasons. So I would like a

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>coaching change, but I think they'll find a way to

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>keep Joe Burrow long term. All right, So you had

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>someone higher than the Bengals in your ranking. Yes, I'm

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>not going to guess who it is because then maybe

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it'll spoil who I take. Who is it?

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I have the Jaguars, so I would like to pick

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars at six. I had them at number five,

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 3>ahead of the Bengals on my personal rankings, but here

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 3>they're going off.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 4>The board at six.

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>To me, this is about a quarterback who is always

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 3>above average but can play elite football, especially when paired

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 3>with the correct play caller and schematic guy in Liam Cohen,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 3>who absolutely gives this team an advantage. I think that

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Liam Cohen hires really well, which was one thing that

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 3>I thought was really really important because we know that

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 3>offensive play callers are going to lose their coaches a lot.

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 3>I think he hires really well Anthony Campanelli and Grant Yudinsky.

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 3>I think that as an ownership group, they've made some mistakes, certainly,

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 3>but also they're willing to put up a ton of

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>money and invest a ton of money into making this

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>organization competitive. And I do think over time I will

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 3>be proven right about the quality of the front office

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 3>and what they're building over there. It's not something that

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>you can just prove in one or two seasons. But

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I think overall this organization has already broken through into

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 3>the next layer of competitiveness, and I think now it's

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 3>all about building consistency and really gearing up to understand

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 3>what you are and what you are not to make

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 3>it through that next class break of contention, which is

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl contention. And so I think very much could

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>see them winning one in the next couple of years.

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Ownership I feel good about overall. The coach is a

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>definite plus. The QBS medium, you know, he's in the middle,

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but you're you know, because every every quarterback gets paid

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>towards the top, you know, that's that's tricky. But the

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Hawx just one with Seam Darnold obviously above average.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 4>That's I'm saying, all you need is above average.

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but like everyone, you can't call everyone above he

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is above average.

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I would say, yeah, I'm not calling everyone above average.

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm calling him above average.

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and CJ. But like I think CJ.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Stroud is above average with an elite upside. That's my

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 3>point is CJ. Stroud to me has more long term

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 3>elite qualities where I think he is going to as

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>his career progresses, be an elite in the elite conversation.

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 3>In this league, I think we know who Trevor Lawrence

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 3>is and who he isn't, and I appreciate that when

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 3>he's paired with the right play caller and playing with

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 3>confidence like we saw last year when they were absolutely

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 3>destroying these teams, I really think that that is a

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>really good marriage. And similar arguments made for the other

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>teams we have ranked higher than the Jaguars, including Detroit

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 3>and Jared Goff, and including like you know, Josh Allen

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 3>and not maybe not being put into such risky positions

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 3>and having a play caller who will maximize his abilities.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I know who Trevor Lawrence is

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>yet still, just because it's so streaky and he played

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>so well at the end, I think that's who he is, right,

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>That's always how I've always assumed him to be, and

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>to me, that made him a pretty average player overall.

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>He played so well down the stretch last year, and

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>because it was Liam Cohen, if that's just the new

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence indefinitely, then I would have him even higher

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 1>than wherever he ended up on our quarterbacks board. For instance,

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he went twelve or thirteenth, like he has

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a chance to be a top ten guy, but I

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>had him six, so I had him in a very

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>similar spot. They of course came out of the gates swinging,

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>made the conference championship game in their second season and

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>then also in their fourth season. But they have never

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>been to a Super Bowl one of the teams, and

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>of course with Blake Bortles they made it back to

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a conference championship. It's never been to Super Bowl. One

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of the four teams that have never done that. All right,

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm up. We're now in the back half of this draft.

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>This is where it gets a little tricky for me.

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll go to the Vikings, who are generally in the mix.

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the Wolf ownership, you could accuse them of

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>being a little maybe almost two hands off that they're

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>out of the building, but overall, like they got that

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>stadium built. I give a little credit for that pat

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>on the back. The coach is a yes, and so

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the offense is a yes. And I care more about

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>offense than defense. Like they're not a poorly run organization.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Is this current build like that close to winning the

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl if you've got top ten quarterback play. Yeah,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're like that far off in a

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>draft or two. But it's ultimately like a vote for

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Kevin O'Connell here and just the general as teams, cursed

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>teams go, Like, the Vikings are not the Browns and

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the Jets, you know what I mean? Are the frisky team,

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to use your words, that'll break your heart in the end,

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>but at least they're in the mix. So I'm gonna

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>have some fun here with the Vikings.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 4>I like this pick.

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 3>They were the top of my all the rest right

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 3>because I do trust long term the organization. I just

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 3>don't trust the quarterback position right now, and I don't

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 3>trust the decision making around the quarterback position right now.

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Once they get the guy that they're going to go

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>with long term and then he's actually on the field,

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 3>then I have all the trusts in the world and

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 3>what that's going to look like. It's just the process

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 3>of it because I can't trust that yet. They're seven

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 3>for me on my board too. They're the top of

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 3>the middle tier for me because I really like the

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 3>organization overall. I think they have really sound, logical, smart

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 3>decision making throughout. I think that to your point, the

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.919
<v Speaker 3>coach is an advantage, and I think he hires well.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Brian Flores is one of the best hires made by

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 3>any head coach over the last you know some odd seasons,

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 3>and I think that retaining talent that is also important.

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 3>That shows that this organization is competing and wants to win.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>They you know, of course, made all those Super Bowls

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and broke their their fans' heart way back in the seventies,

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>so they're very close to not being on this list,

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's been a long time since they have been

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>back there. Of course, the famous missed field goal with

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that season with Dante Culpepper that sends them out Gary

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Anderson was it. And then getting to the conference championship

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>game in twenty seventeen and getting the doors blown off

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>them with case Keenum.

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>So they have yet to reach the summit.

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>They would be high on my rankings of teams that

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>would have the most fun reaction to winning a Super Bowl.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, see everything, all right, who's up next for you?

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 3>So with pick number eight, I'm going to go with

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 3>the Carolina Panthers and my tiers They're the second in

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 3>my middle tier of this entire exercise, right, and my

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 3>middle tier for me is either or either no quarterback

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the vikings or big questions at quarterback,

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 3>which I think is fair that we still are wanting

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to see Bryce Young sustain the success that he ended

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 3>the season last year with. And then also I like

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 3>the direction of the organization that had to be a

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 3>quality here that maybe they've had harder times or whatever,

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 3>but I can see forward progress. I can see them

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 3>building blocks and putting things together in a way that

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 3>I agree with that I buy into. I think that

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 3>David Tepper, after a lot of bumps along the way

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.720
<v Speaker 3>and mistakes along the way in terms of decision making

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 3>and pivots and things like that, really has found the

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 3>answer here with this trifecta or triumvirent between you know,

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Dan Morgan and Brant Tillis and Dave Canalis, and the

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 3>way that specifically they all worked together, the way that

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 3>they've built out they've take in one of the one

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 3>of the franchises that was still so behind almost every

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 3>if not every other franchise in the NFL for so

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 3>many years into this modern era of football and so

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 3>far behind and finally have rebuilt it into something that's

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 3>not just makes sense in terms of their infrastructure, analytics

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 3>and scouting and the way that they they have their processes,

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 3>but also is competitive with some of the better teams

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 3>out there. And so I think that when that happens,

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 3>you can really really trust the direction of the organization

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.479
<v Speaker 3>now you need. They've had some of the most fun

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 3>seasons I think we've ever seen in terms of a

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 3>run to the super Bowl. That twenty fifteen you know, undefeated,

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 3>That Cam Newton season was like one of the most

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 3>thing fun things I think any of us have ever watched.

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Favored in that game in the Super.

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Bowl and heartbreak at the end, right, And so I

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 3>think that now though, this is an organization that's not

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 3>just sort of a magic moment away, it's an organization

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 3>that's the fl is lifted throughout. And I'm just curious

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 3>more about the quarterback.

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta squint hard to see them win a

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>title right now.

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's gonna be.

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>True for all this is over time. Yeah, that it

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>is remaining. I didn't write many notes on them because

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I just figured.

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 2>You were drafting.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, it's just like Noah, they actually would have

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>been next up for me to the coach, GM quarterback.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Even ownership if Tepper has learned it's all like, okay,

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you some okay, middle of the pack front

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.720
<v Speaker 1>office has potential or something. But to win a title,

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 1>you need a lot of things to come together. It's

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>a good it's a good shout out that that they've

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>had two of the most entertaining Super Bowl losers, unfortunately

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>in NFL history, because that that Jake Delome team and

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>that Super Bowl specifically where they lost to the Patriots,

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like they were so close to not being on this list.

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Falcons have something in common with them getting close to

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the Tom Brady team in the Super Bowl. But they're

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>starting from scratch essentially now. I'm just making them next

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit on the ownership and just they've always

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>been a little more in the middle, and I know

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter for this current build, but you

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>have I think good ownership and the you know, the

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>stadium and everything, and there's.

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Not anything that is there right now.

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's going to have much to

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>do with their next Super Bowl or not, but on

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a long enough timeline, I feel like they're they're the

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>horse I'm picking next.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know.

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 3>As an aside, one of my favorite things about watching

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 3>all the World Cup coverage over the last several weeks

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 3>is the marveling over the stadiums and when like the

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 3>BBC comes in and they'll do like a full on

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 3>breakdown of the stadiums. And I watched the one the

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 3>BBC did on the Atlanta they're calling it, you know,

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:48.280
<v Speaker 3>the Atlanta stadium right now because of sponsorship rules with FIFA,

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 3>and I just loved, you know, of course all the

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 3>hits were played, the concessions, yes, the.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.479
<v Speaker 4>Roof, the band around the entire top.

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just I loved it because these are

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 3>all things that were like, yeah, of course I've I mean,

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 3>but it's like a modern architectural I mean, it is

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 3>a modern architecture marvel.

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 4>We're just used to it.

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>We're going back, We're going back for the super Bowl.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>And what if the Falcons win the Super Bowl in

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>their home stadium and then win me a dinner and

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you just having to give me praise on NFL daily that.

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and do it soon so I don't owe gregor

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 4>Kidney please.

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well that would be what in a couple of years.

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 1>We're going back to Atlanta for the Super Bowl.

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's do it all right, Hopefully you're.

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Healthy, you have number nine.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully I'm healthy. Okay, you just picked nine. That you

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 3>pick the Falcons, Okay, pick ten. I'm gonna go with

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 3>the Tennessee Titans here and this they were the top

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 3>of my lower tier, or my lowest tier. That's three

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 3>teams that are in that tier. And my lowest tier

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 3>has these sort of qualities that make it into what

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 3>it is. And how I parse out these teams either

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 3>a very young quarterback or no quarter back at all.

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 3>So obviously Kim Ward, who I think has a lot

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 3>of potential, we just don't know yet. He's so young,

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 3>he's so early into his career. And or the team

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 3>organization has a history of chaos and dysfunction. They have

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>a history of significant turnover, whether it's the front office,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 3>the coaching staff, or both. The Titans check those boxes

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 3>for me, ownership issues, all those things, you know, needing

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 3>to trust, competency, those types of issues that have that

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 3>come up with them over and over again. It's just

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 3>that I really like Kim Ward and so and I

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 3>like the fact that of.

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 2>You can see him winning the Super Bowl.

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I love that over a long period of time. Yeah,

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's the thing. Is this these none of

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 3>these teams in these picks at the bottom here we

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>can see him doing it like next year, but over

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 3>a period of time. I think that Kim ward is

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 3>going to be great. And I also think that this

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 3>is a team that when I compare it, especially to

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 3>the other two that we have left to pick from,

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>those teams being the Browns and the Cardinals.

0:43:58.920 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I like that.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>I've got their quarterback position figured out. They've got it settled.

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>The other two do not.

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I had the Jets written down this

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>whole time. Sorry to Joe Willie Namath. You know, I

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 1>guess I had thirteen teams written out.

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I just like you know, Karmicle and cosmically I have

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>not wanted.

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 4>It feels right that they should be on here.

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but good point, they weren't even last on my list. Yeah.

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I agree with with everything he said, Jim. You know,

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll see the coach is okay, QB. I'm not there

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>yet on cam Warden, and we'll talk about him plenty

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>of leading into the season.

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 2>This is this isn't about that.

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think you have to be there yet

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 3>on him. No, I guess, I just, I just I'm talking.

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>More long terms, right, I'm not even there long term.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm going to enjoy watching him play football

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>throughout his career. But if he has a Jamis like career,

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>or even like a Cutlerish type career that like that

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't surprise me, like the range of outcomes for me,

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not all the way there yet.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's say after like like we have been with some

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>rookies after their first year, and yet you know, he

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 1>had a very difficult circumstance. And if AFC South teams

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>want to complain about the coverage that they get in general,

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is the third AFC South team to

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>come up on this list. This is a little bit

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>why there's there's no history with this division. I mean,

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the Texans have never been to the Super Bowl, the

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars have never been to the Super Bowl. And the Titans,

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>who have been around the longest and moved you know,

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>they they've only they they've only made it and haven't

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>won one. So that's partly why there's no history with

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 1>this division. That's fair game.

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to.

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:38.240
<v Speaker 1>The Browns next. You have an ownership that's willing to spend,

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.240
<v Speaker 1>then maybe not in a good.

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Way, you know.

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Jimmy Haslam at this point has to wear

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the Deshaun Watson contract, but he's willing to spend whether

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it's his NBA team now, the Bucks or or the Browns.

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 2>They have the the Rams first round pick next year.

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's not a lot of building blocks that

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I would think would be there if they win a

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl in the next six or seven years. If

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you squint hard, Yeah, could Carson Sweessner in his seventh

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 1>or eighth year still be there? And Fannin is there

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and some of these draft picks like are part of

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the team that turn around.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I just like them essentially a little bit better

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 1>than the Cardinals.

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 3>They're Devil's advocate because I have them ranked here as

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 3>well at eleven. I know that their argument, whether or

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 3>not it's creditable or not, regardless of what we think

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 3>their argument will be after this season that they are

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback away, their argument will be that they've drafted

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 3>well enough over the last two seasons and acquired enough

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 3>capital to move around and possibly get that quarterback or

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 3>whatever they're going to do. They will argue that that

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 3>roster is primed and ready to drop in either a

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 3>rookie quarterback that they draft or somebody that they bundle

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.879
<v Speaker 3>picks and trade for, where they will make that argument.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 4>That their roster is that player away.

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 3>At that point, I think that you could see that

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 3>you could make an argument for that. It's just that

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.280
<v Speaker 3>you could also make an argument for this is the Browns.

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 3>We've seen them be a quarterback away or in their minds,

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback away multiple times. We've seen them either discard

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the wrong quarterback or acquire the wrong quarterback in disastrous

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 3>fashion with those results, you know, in the case of

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.959
<v Speaker 3>Deshaun Watson, and so I don't have an easy time

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 3>believing their argument. I understand why they would make it,

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 3>and I like their last two draft classes, but I

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 3>don't trust it because I haven't seen proof. So that's

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 3>where my thing is, Like, I got them near the bottom.

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Regardless of how I think they are making, in my opinion,

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 3>forward progress, I don't trust that they'll sustain it. So

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 3>that's where I'm kind of at with them.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's an ownership group that had a

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>three year window at one point where they totaled four

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 1>winds combined hot damp. So look at the lap two years,

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like they're great Tingles eight wins and the last

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>two years combined, and yeah, that's all old stuff.

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 2>But this is this is the exercise we're doing here.

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>They got it.

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>They got a shot with this group to become relevant,

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to win a super Bowl.

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a long way to go.

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>They've they've never been to the conference championship as the

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>New Browns.

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Technically we're we're using all the old Browns.

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, they got the stats and whatnot, and so

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>then you get the heartbreak of the conference championship game losses.

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 2>But the New Browns have not been to the divisional round?

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Is that right? Yeah? They have not.

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>They have not been to the divisional round. Yes, all right,

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you got the you got your Cardinals or last.

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.879
<v Speaker 1>On a list of teams that have yet to reach

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the summit, they, according to us, are the furthest away

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>from the summit.

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so I'll just go back to my qualifications for

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 3>this tier at which they are at the bottom. They're

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 3>in the early phases of a longer term rebuild. They

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 3>either have a very young quarterback or no quarterback. In

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 3>this case, no quarterback. Not only no quarterback, but no

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 3>visible or apparent plan for firing that player, especially with

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 3>their draft pick, their top five pick this year, and

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 3>or history of chaos and dysfunction, history of significant turnover,

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 3>whether at the coaching level or the front office level

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:13.720
<v Speaker 3>or both.

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Check check check check check check. There's the Cardinals.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:21.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it bums me out because I remember, I remember,

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and I was heartbroken, broken, and Kurt Warner was gonna

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 3>get the get it done and seal the just fantastical

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:36.280
<v Speaker 3>storybook football moment that you know, enamored so many of us,

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:40.839
<v Speaker 3>and it just it and and I learned that I'm

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 3>only set up for for heartbreak.

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 2>That was such a miracle team.

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I've said it before that I've never been more disappointed

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>at a Super Bowl that a team lost that covered

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that team for nbcsports dot Com that week than than

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that specific Cardinals team.

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a miracle that they were there.

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>They were blown out like multiple times to end their

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>regular season. They sneak in at nine and seven, and

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>then they played electric football for three rounds and three

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and a half quarters and gave up a drive to

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.959
<v Speaker 1>a really great Steelers team, so that that'll always break

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>my heart. I'm almost more surprised that the Carson Palmer

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arians Cardinals did not win a Those were legit teams.

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course, they made it to the conference championship game

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>one time. But right now they're They're about as far

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 1>away as you can be.

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.359
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully we're proven wrong.

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 1>It would be crazy if you win this thing with

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.000
<v Speaker 1>your hometown Cardinals as the last pick.

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Although they taught me again at a formative age that

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 3>the thing that would be cool is probably not going

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 3>to happen.

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Probably, Okay, we should go over our picks, right.

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 2>We should.

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:52.240
<v Speaker 1>The order of the draft as written by Jordan, thank

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you for housekeeping here. I had the Texans first. Then

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Jordan takes the Bills. I have the Chargers with the

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>third overall pick. Jordan then has the Lions. I have

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Jordan has the Jags.

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 2>That was six. I have the Vikings. You have the Panthers.

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I took the Falcons, you took the Titans. My last

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>pick number eleven was the Browns, and you had the Cardinals.

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>So if any of those teams win a Super Bowl.

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't even have to keep still be

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>doing a show if for some reason we're not, like

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>if podcasting ends for everyone, because that's the only white

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 1>way that this could happen. Like, we will still be

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 1>working in football, and you will still owe that dinner

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and in public praise for me, even if it's not

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.799
<v Speaker 1>the Viking, even if it's not until the Vikings or no,

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings win in like twenty forty seven, if it

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>took that long for some reason.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna build your confidence up so much only to

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 3>crush your spirit, and then I'm gonna make you get

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 3>a matching tattoo with me.

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, a matching tattoo.

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I would do that, especially when my Texans pull it

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 1>off this year and you can't even fully enjoy it

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because you know.

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 2>That I won that pick fair and square. All Right,

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 2>that's it. I'm back. We're back. We are still doing

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 2>three shows a week for now.

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>We're not bringing the daily fully back to NFL Daily

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>quite yet, but teams are heading back to training camp

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>next week, and so are we in terms of really

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>fully bringing back the show.

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 2>We will be back with a little bit of a mailbag.

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, and it's before Tuesday afternoon.

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Send us your questions on social media and we'll try

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:31.600
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0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 1>will see them