1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Welcome in our number two Wednesday edition, Clay Travis Buck 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. You can 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: search out my name Clay Travis. You can search out 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Podcast network is phenomenal, lots of different aspects there. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: There's also a weekend fun edition if you just want 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: to have something to drive around and listen to, maybe 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: you work out on Saturday or Sunday. Tens of millions 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: of you downloading the episodes every single month. 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: That is an incredible credit. 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: We want to be as many places as we can 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: possibly be to be fighting the battles that we are fighting, 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: and we thank all of you for listening to us 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: in all fifty states five hundred ish stations nationwide. As 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: we are rolling through the top of our number two 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: here on the Wednesday edition of the program, and there 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: is big discussion we so far have had a ceasefire 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: whole being in the Middle East. Now, I don't know 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: if you saw buck this awful story. As they are 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: releasing different hostages. It appears Unfortunately that one of the 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: families that has been most focused on that had two 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: young toddler age children along with the mother. It appears 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: that Hamas has murdered them, kidnap them. The father has 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: been released. There is expectation that Hamas is turning over 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: murdered bodies as part of the ongoing ceasefire there. It's 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: an awful situation. We will update you on that as 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: it goes forward. But the best case scenario is that 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: the ceasefire keeps holding and the hostages who have not 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: been murdered by Hamas are able to be released. That 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: is a credit. The fact that we have a ceasefire 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: at all in the Middle East is a credit to 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 2: Trump's election. When I was in Israel in December meeting 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: with top Israeli official, they all said the election of 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Trump changed the calculus of Hamas. Shortly thereafter got the 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: ceasefire in the North with Hesbola, and then Hamask also 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: got in line. We hope that that ceasefire is going 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: to hold. Now the focus has shifted to the European theater. 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, we talked to last week. 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: They had the first face to face meetings between the 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: Russians and the Americans since the invasion of Ukraine began. 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: That happened in Saudi Arabia, and one of the discussions 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: now going on is what needs to happen in order 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: for a ceasefire to take root in Ukraine, Russia and 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: in the largest ground war to take place in Europe 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: since World War Two. And Trump has now teed off 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: on Zelenski in particular, saying why is this guy? First 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: of all, where's the money going? Which is a valid question. 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: We have sent hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: and there does not seem to be an accounting for 52 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: where all that money went, taxpayer dollars. The continued just 53 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: shovel of money that we have been sending there has 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: slowed down. 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: Trump has put a pause on. 56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: It, but he's also raised a really important question, and 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that many of you have even thought 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: about this. One of the conditions going forward in order 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: for Ukraine and Russia to have a ceasefire is Ukraine 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: actually having an election. Zolensky does not appear willing to 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 2: have an election because he doesn't actually have that much 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: popular support in Ukraine. 63 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: We have all been told. 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Oh, Zolenski, he is the most popular politician anywhere. Everyone 65 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: loves him. Why won't he allow an election to take place? 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: If he supposedly is standing for democracy. It's a question 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: that suddenly has emerged, and I think it's an important 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: one that we should be talking about. 69 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: Clay our resident Civil War amateur historian, brought up that 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: even during the height of the Civil War, and it 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: is in fact the case, Abraham Lincoln was concerned about 72 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: challenges from the electorate, as in, is he going to 73 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: get re elected? And if there weren't some battlefield successes 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: from specifically, I think was Grant and Sherman right to 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: make the public feel like the North was actually on 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: a pathway to victory. Abraham Lincoln might have lost that election, 77 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: but it turned out he won, and as we know, well, 78 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: it certainly wasn't happily ever after for Lincoln after that. 79 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: But the point is they allowed elections to happen, and 80 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: they don't allow that in Ukraine right now. I'm also 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: curious what the role is that Zelenski thinks that Trump 82 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: administration is supposed to play here because we have provided them. 83 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: Here's one thing to remember, there's what we have officially 84 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: provided them, as in people know about, and then there's 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: the help that we have given them quietly, as well 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: as some of our more militarily adept NATO partners. It's 87 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: a lot more than people think and realize. It is right, 88 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: the intelligence assistants, the training assistants, the things that have 89 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: been going on to bring Russia to a stalemate. Without 90 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: the help of the US specifically, and then a couple 91 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: of our NATO partners pitching in too, Ukraine would not 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: be able to hold Russia back in this way. So 93 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: it's not like Clay. We are bystanders, you know, We're 94 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: not up in the bleachers yelling at the ref and 95 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: interfering in the game. Without us, there is no game 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: without us. This war would have been lost for Ukraine 97 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: a long time ago. So for Trump to take a 98 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: role in trying to get negotiations started, let's see where 99 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: this goes. I'm not surprised, but it is a little 100 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: bit frustrating to see some of the comments that have 101 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: been made from Zelensky specifically given this, he certainly does 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: not come across as being somebody who is grateful for 103 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: the help of the unit. I mean, he kind of 104 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: says it, but he, I think is in a position 105 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: right now. Well, well, first of all, the Russians are 106 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: on the move. The Russians are actually on the offensive. 107 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: So to get a deal done is probably better now 108 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: than it would be if you were to wait six 109 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: months or twelve months. And now Putin obviously knows that too. 110 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: But bringing this conflict to an end is essential. I 111 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: mean Trump has called Zelenski now a dictator and has 112 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: accused him publicly of misusing usaid is that true, Because 113 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: if it's true, Trump calling out is the right thing 114 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: to do. And I don't think Trump would say this 115 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: unless he felt like he needed to bring Zelensky to 116 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: the table with a bit more pressure to get an 117 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: end to this. 118 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let me put my history nerd hat on here. 119 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: If you are arguing, hey, Ukraine stands on the side 120 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: of democracy, did you know? 121 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: And I know because I wrote my thesis on it. 122 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: In eighteen sixty four, Abraham Lincoln ran against George McClellan 123 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: buck his former head of the Union Army, and McClellan 124 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: ran as the Democrat. 125 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Lincoln was the Republican. In eighteen sixty four. 126 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: McClellan ran basically on the precept of we need to 127 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: have peace, and we need to go ahead potentially and 128 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: allow the South to withdraw. 129 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: And to your point, basically the South winds I mean correct, 130 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: South gets to be what it is, which is not 131 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: a part of the Union. And that's ballgame, everybody correct. 132 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: And the entire election came down to be a referendum 133 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: on should the Civil War continue to be prosecuted as 134 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: it was. 135 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: And to your point, it was uncertain who was going 136 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: to win. 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: Again we had an election during the Civil War in 138 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: this country, and until Sherman took Atlanta and began his 139 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: march to this for those of you who are Civil 140 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: War history nerds, it was unclear whether Lincoln was gonna win. 141 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: It was the capture of Atlanta in September that was 142 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: the false surprise of the eighteen sixty four election, and 143 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: Lincoln could say, we've got to keep the steam going. 144 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: We don't need to now allow the South to have 145 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: the opportunity to think they can win the war. 146 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: Because all you needed from the Confederate point of view 147 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: was a stalemate that continued long enough where the survival 148 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: of the Confederate army ran off that the North loses 149 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: the political will to continue the fight. When Sherman comes 150 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: in and makes it more of a total war scenario 151 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: going after the war, making capability the railroad depots, supply 152 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: lines of the Lee's Confederate Army. It changed the equation 153 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: in the minds of people in the North. So that's 154 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: how mcloughn's defeated and Lincoln wins. Point here being so 155 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: Zelenski just says, no elections and I'm in charge until 156 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: what And by. 157 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: The way, not just Civil War buck World War two. 158 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: W FDR won an election which was in many ways 159 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: a referendum against Dewey in November of nineteen forty four. 160 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: On how the election was going, and if you go 161 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: back in time and if you actually do your historical analysis, 162 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't a coincidence that Eisenhower invaded in June of 163 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: nineteen forty four, because in the summer of that election season, 164 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: this was the idea being, hey, we're prosecuting the war 165 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: against Hitler in Germany, and things were going well enough 166 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: that people said, I can see an end coming to 167 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: this war. But in the summer when they were running, 168 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: there was an uncertainty about how this should come out. 169 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: My point on it is the United States arguing that 170 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: Ukraine through Trump, that Ukraine should have an election is 171 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: actually consistent with democratic republican values of the United States. 172 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: When we have allowed elections to take place in this 173 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: country during the two I would argue most crucible moments 174 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: about what the future of this republic would be. We 175 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: allowed citizens to go vote on whether the Civil War 176 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: should continue. We allowed citizens to go vote on whether 177 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: World War two should happen. And why shouldn't we ask 178 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: the same thing of Zelensky? This seems very rational to me. Now, 179 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: the reason Trump's calling him a dictator buck is because 180 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: Zelensky doesn't think he would win the election. And this 181 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: is important for everybody in America who's been told, oh, 182 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: Zelensky is this war hero. Everybody in Russia loves him. 183 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, why won't he allow Ukrainian will to 184 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: come out and for Ukrainians to vote about what they 185 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: think should happen this These are really good questions that 186 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: haven't been discussed in this country. 187 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Well. 188 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 3: There's also one of the challenges here is that the 189 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: Ukrainian fight has been held up as a proxy, effectively 190 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: a proxy army against the Russians, and the really cynical, 191 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 3: but I think for a lot of people that view 192 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: it as a very accurate sense of this is that 193 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: the support of the Ukrainian Army was an opportunity for 194 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: US to bleed the Russian Federation without losing any of NATO, 195 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: without losing any actual NATO ally soldiers, right. And so 196 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 3: in that formulation, the longer the conflict goes, the better 197 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: it is for the people sitting there pulling the puppet 198 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: strings because they're just losing Ukrainians, they're not losing NATO allies, 199 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: and they're making things harder on Russia. Now, I think 200 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: that's a brutal and an immoral and short sighted way 201 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: of viewing the situation. But there is that sentiment among 202 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: the foreign policy elites. I wouldn't say consensus anymore, because 203 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: they're not calling the shots Trump is, but there is 204 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: that sense among them that this is giving us greater 205 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: strategic depth against Russia. And they also say this, and 206 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: Zelensky says this himself, This crazy stuff about how Russia 207 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: is going to over run all of Europe unless they're 208 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: stopped in Ukraine. That's just not true. The Russians don't 209 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: have the capacity to do that. They don't have the 210 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: capacity to overrun Ukraine right now with the support that's 211 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 3: being given. They're not about to invade Germany and trigger 212 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: Article five of NATO. That's not gonna happen. So we're 213 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: told things about this conflict that are not true, and 214 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: the longer it drags on, the higher the body count goes. 215 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: Isn't it fascinating? Think of all the people, Clay, who 216 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: are so upset about the loss of I'm talking about 217 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: the left and Democrats in this country. Everything that happens 218 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: in Gaza is a cause for you know, college kids 219 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: and you know MSNBC hosts to start crying. Look at 220 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: the loss of life that's going on in Ukraine day 221 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: in and day out. No, that's worth it because it's 222 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: protecting democracy? Is it? 223 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: Really? 224 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: How is it protecting democracy? 225 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: Isn't the very foundation of democracy allowing people to pick 226 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: their leaders in. 227 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: Time or learning something new. 228 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: I also don't think very many people even are aware 229 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: that Zelensky has ended all elections in his country, and 230 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: so I think this is a real conversation. We'll take 231 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: some of your calls, by the way, eight hundred and 232 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: two two two eight a two. If some of you 233 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: have questions about this, But I do think this is 234 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: a conversation on a substantial level that frankly, the American 235 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: public has not been as well informed as they could 236 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: have been. And I think it's important to use our 237 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: country's history as a argument for what we think the 238 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: precedent should be for other countries. In times of war. 239 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: The Constitution doesn't vanish in the United States. In times 240 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: of Chris Lincoln did suspend corps. That nobody's perfect, nobody's 241 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: that's actually a super nerd a bit that you know that, 242 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: But he did allow the election to happen. And unfortunately, 243 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: what we learned during COVID is the Constitution matters far 244 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: more during a time of crisis than it does during 245 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: actual normal times of peace and prosperity. 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That's pricepicks dot com code Clay. 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: We were just talking about the Russia Ukraine war and 275 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: how Trump is trying to bring this, help bring this 276 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: to a conclusion. There's a lot of pushback in Wall 277 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: Street Journal I could tell a little hostile toward the 278 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: Trump position on this, not a surprise some others too. 279 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: But Trump is very confident that this can be brought 280 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: to a negotiated end, which I think is the only outcome. Really, 281 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: it's just a question of when and what the final 282 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: status is of each side after that deal is struck. Right, 283 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: But there's no future in which Ukraine is not going 284 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: to take over and destroy all of or you know, 285 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: destroy the Russian army and take over Russia. That's not happening, 286 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: doesn't look like as long as we're supporting Ukraine, Russia 287 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: can overrun all the Ukrainian forces and take most or 288 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: all of Ukraine. So in this situation, you have a stalemate, 289 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: you have a lot of lives being lost, a lot 290 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: of material, a lot of US taxpayer dollars going to this. 291 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: Hundreds of billions I think is the official number. As 292 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: I said, it'll end up being a trillion dollars that 293 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: has gone to Ukraine from the US and NATO from 294 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: the start, of this war. Here's Trump just saying, a 295 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: half baked negotiator, this is cut eleven could have ended 296 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: this thing. 297 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 5: Well, I think I'm really disappointed in what's happened. I've 298 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 5: been watching this for three years. It's a war that 299 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: would have never happened if I was president, And I've 300 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 5: been watching these these you know, people being killed at 301 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 5: levels that you've rarely seen, not even close since the 302 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: Second World War. And I'm very disappointed. I hear that, 303 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 5: you know there's upset about not having a seat. Well, 304 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 5: they've had a seat for three years, and a long 305 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: time before that. This could have been settled very easily, 306 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: just a half a half bigd negotiator could have settled 307 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: this years ago without either without the loss of much land, 308 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 5: very little land, without the loss of any lives. 309 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: He's very bold on this, Clay. What if he's right, 310 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: what happens to the foreign policy quote consensus? Then if 311 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: Trump just comes in and this thing stops. 312 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he should get the Nobel Prize because it 313 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: would be such a transformative thing. But he's already been 314 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: right so far about the Middle East. 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We talked about the 339 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: drama in New York City surrounding the mayor's race there. 340 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: We also on the flip side of the country still 341 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: have all of the awfulness unspooling from the Los Angeles 342 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: wildfires in Pacific Palisades, in particular in terms of the 343 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: failure of Los Angeles City government mayor Karen Bass, who 344 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: remember beat Rick Caruso, and I saw where Elon Musk 345 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: came out recently and said, hey, if Rick Caruso had 346 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: been the mayor, I think thousands of homes would have 347 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: been spared because he would have been a more competent leader. 348 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 2: And if you say, okay, what is Elon Musk based 349 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: that on? Rick Caruso has one of the biggest developments 350 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: in Pacific Palisades and none of it burned down. He 351 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: had his team ready to protect the area there, the 352 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: shopping area. He had them putting out fires instantaneously if 353 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: there were to be potential flames that were spreading in 354 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: the winds the. 355 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: Wildfires, he was ready. He was ready for this event. 356 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: Remember Karen Bass famously was in Ghana she had gone 357 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: for the inauguration of the new Ghanian president or vice president, 358 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: and she was there as an official, as a dignitary 359 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: for that swearing in. Despite the fact that there were 360 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: ample warnings that Los Angeles was going to face wildfire dangers. 361 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: In other words, there were a lot of weather forecasters saying, hey, 362 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: this is going to be an issue. Everybody should be 363 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: aware of the danger that is coming. Because of the 364 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: increased amount of wind and the dry nature of Los Angeles. 365 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: Right now, it wasn't crazy that these wildfires could emerge. 366 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: Well. 367 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: And by the way, you'll remember, we talked about the 368 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: history of Los. 369 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Angeles, which is millions. 370 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: Of acres on a regular basis, pre major settlement of 371 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: Los Angeles would burn every year and it was only 372 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: via the management of the surrounding environment that we had 373 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: driven down the overall amount of wildfires and acreage that 374 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: burns every year. And in fact, the climate change activist 375 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: had decided to come in and start to argue, oh, 376 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: you're impacting the climate too much with some of the 377 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 2: anti burn regulations that you put in place. They eliminated 378 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: a lot of that, and then the fires if kicked 379 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: back up in the last several years, so it's very circular. 380 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: We're basically back to what we were in a pre 381 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: developed Los Angeles. Reason why I bring all this up 382 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Karen Basset for an interview Mayor of Los Angeles, and 383 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: she said, you know what, we need an investigation into 384 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: why I was in Ghana when all the wildfires happened. 385 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: I can't believe this is real. 386 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 6: Listen, when I talked about it with the fire chief, 387 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 6: what she said is is that we have warnings of 388 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 6: Santa Anna wins a lot but predicting this and you 389 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 6: saw from the city, from the county that level of 390 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: preparation really didn't happen. So it didn't reach that level 391 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 6: to me to say something terrible could happen and maybe 392 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 6: you shouldn't have gone on the trip. So two investigations 393 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 6: are taking place. One internal to the city and that's 394 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 6: the Fire Commission because that's mandated by the city charter. 395 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 6: So the commission will hire an outside entity to examine everything, 396 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 6: the pre deployment. You know, why were firefighters sent home, 397 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 6: you know, all of that that should have taken place 398 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 6: that didn't. And then also the governor has contracted with 399 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 6: the Fire Safety Research Institute, which is a national institute 400 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 6: that investigated what happened in the fires and MAUI. 401 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So that is one statement. 402 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: We need an investigation into why we were so incompetent. 403 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: We also have another cut. 404 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: This is the consequence of choosing incompetence. 405 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: As your mayo oral leader. 406 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: This is Karen Bass, second largest city in America right now, 407 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: Eric Adams runs New York City. 408 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: We were talking about the failures there. 409 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: Here is Karen Bass continuing to talk about how could 410 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: we have possibly known that the wildfires were going to 411 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: be this bad? We need another investigation. 412 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 6: So let me just tell you a couple of things. 413 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: First of all, when the White House called and asked 414 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 6: me if I would represent the president, I said yes. 415 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 6: It was going to be a very very short trip 416 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 6: over a weekend and two business days. We need to 417 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 6: look at everything about the preparation and all of that 418 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: for the fires, because I think when we evaluate that, 419 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 6: we will find that although there were warnings that I 420 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 6: frankly wasn't aware of, although there were warnings, I think 421 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 6: our preparation it wasn't what it typically is. 422 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: Okay, So this is in common competence buck on a 423 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: pretty crazy level that you would have the mayor basically saying, 424 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: how come nobody told me there might be fires? How 425 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: come we weren't prepared. Meanwhile, there are oodles, there are 426 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: scads of LA area meteorologist and weather forecasters who were saying, 427 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: we were out telling everybody that these dangers were here. 428 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's also just a culture of no accountability 429 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: now that we see increasingly from a lot of different politicians, 430 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: where they think their job is when they've been caught 431 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: completely wrong footed, something really bad has happened. I mean 432 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: wildfire for a mayor, that's a particularly awful situation, and 433 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: then they think their job is to turn around and say, well, 434 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: we're going to have a commission and a bunch of 435 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: committees and explain why the bad thing happened over the 436 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: next six to eighteen months, and I promise. 437 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: You we'll have a report ready for you. No, you're 438 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: actually supposed to get it done. You know, we were 439 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 3: talking about generals before the Civil War and Lincoln having 440 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: to deal with the realities of the battlefield. As a politician. 441 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes you just got to replace a general because you're losing, 442 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's one thing to say, well, 443 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 3: there's a lot of circumstances, A lot of facts going 444 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: on here, but ultimately, the buck has to stop. Pardon 445 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: the expression, the buck has to stop with someone, and 446 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: Mayor Karen Bass is just making very clear the buck 447 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: does not stop with her on this that it was 448 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 3: a lot of things and being gone, and yeah it 449 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 3: was a bad look, but it was just supposed to 450 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: be a couple of days. What are you doing going 451 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: to Ghana? That's the question, right, it doesn't I don't 452 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: care if it's for five minutes. What are you doing. 453 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 3: You're the mayor of the second largest city in America 454 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: and you're flying to Ghana on on a a busy look. 455 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: If she was on vacation for a week with her 456 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: family and she came back right away, it's a look 457 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: unfortunate timing. No, she was representing Los Angeles in Ghana, 458 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 3: which is the part of it that is particularly absurd. 459 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: I think bothers people about this a lot. And also 460 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: now the rebuilding realities have started to set in for 461 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: people there, you know, the whole imagine if your house 462 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: is still standing in Pacific Palacedays. I've talked to friends 463 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: who have friends who lost their houses. I don't know 464 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: anyone well personally who lost a house, But I know 465 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people who are one person removed who 466 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: got their house burned down. But even if your house 467 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: is still standing, there the neighborhood around you is like 468 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: a war zone right now in terms of you know 469 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: what the debris and everything looks looks like it's been 470 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: bombed out. You're missing schools. In some places, the neighborhood 471 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: isn't even there. It's not just your house is gone, 472 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: the houses around your house, or rather, it's not just 473 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 3: whether your house is gone or not, it's also the 474 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: surrounding area. And California is not going to make this 475 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: super easy and efficient because they're incapable of making things 476 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 3: super easy and efficient. So I think that there are 477 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: going to be some people who have left, and more will. 478 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: Some people have left, I think more will leave, and 479 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: I just hope that there's some sense along the Californians 480 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: you stay. You have to stop voting for imbeciles, whether 481 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: it's Newsome or Bass. You have to stop voting for 482 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: people who cannot do the very important, very serious jobs 483 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: that you are electing them to do. 484 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: One of our OutKick executives that we started with at 485 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: Fox had his house burned down in LA. 486 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: I was texting about it with him this week. 487 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: How long does he think the rebuild's going to be? Years? Yeah, 488 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: I mean at least three to five is what I've heard. 489 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: And I have talked to a couple of other friends 490 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: who lost their homes that are scrambling to try to 491 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: find places to live. And one of the things that 492 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: is occurring in LA and I bet many of you 493 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: listening in this area know what I'm talking about. The 494 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: rental prices for homes have skyrocketing. Of course, so if 495 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: you were going to in you got kids in school 496 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: right now, and you're like, I can't bell on Los Angeles. 497 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: I still want to be in this area. Everybody who 498 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: had a property that was high end property available has 499 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: doubled and tripled what they would be charging per month. 500 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: And you've got I've got so many people out there. 501 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: That's people who are fortunate enough to be able to 502 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: have the resources to buy places. You've also got a 503 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: ton of people out there, and this is going to 504 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: become more and more unfortunate. I think as this story continues, 505 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: huge numbers of people in Los Angeles their primary retirement 506 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: vehicle is the value of their home and a lot 507 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: of people. If you bought a home in that area 508 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles thirty years ago, prices were somewhat affordable. 509 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: Some people have had those homes for forty years. They 510 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: were not insured as much because some people had already 511 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: paid off their mortgage and the cost of rebuilding. Not 512 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: only is it going to talk take years, but a 513 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: lot of people frankly don't have the money to be 514 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: able to afford to rebuild, and so this is frankly, 515 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: it's cataclysmic. 516 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: If you could rebuild it. We've talked about this a 517 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: little bit, but keep this in mind. If you could rebuild, 518 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: your house for tax purposes, will be assessed at the 519 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: new market value. And they're not going to give some 520 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: holiday on that, if you will to everybody. They're gonna say, look, 521 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: if you're building a house in this area, it's brand new, 522 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: it's worth it's worth five million bucks. You're not paying 523 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: because if you've lived there from when you could get 524 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: a house there for I don't know, thirty years ago, 525 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: probably a million dollars, maybe maybe half a million forraction 526 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: of what it would be where it is, you know, 527 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: thirty years ago it was probably half a million dollars. 528 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: Maybe it was even even less than that. So if 529 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: you moved in and you got a half million dollar 530 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: house in this swanky area, now it's worth five million 531 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: dollars after thirty years the five hundred thousand initial price, 532 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: they're capped at how much they can raise your taxes 533 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: every year, so it gets nowhere close to the new 534 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: market value of that house. So the point is now 535 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: your annual burn rate of cash would be a lot more. 536 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: And so people are gonna say, look, I don't want 537 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: to I don't want to deal with that. And then 538 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: you add on top of that, California is fourteen percent 539 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: property tax rate. Because the people live in Pacific Palisades, 540 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: they're going to be paying high rates. I mean, these 541 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: are these are generally going to be high earners because 542 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: the housing is so expensive. So yeah, it's an absolute mess. 543 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: But the good new it is for everybody. Karen Bass 544 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: is going to have a lot of people looking into 545 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: why she didn't do her job better and that's what 546 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: she offers for you. 547 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: And we have reached out, but we should put it in. 548 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure she won't come on. Yeah, we should in 549 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: buye Karen Bass. But we have reached out to Rick Caruso, 550 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 2: who should have been the pick to come on this 551 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: program and kind of walk through the rebuild of LA. 552 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: I think the Caruso conversation would be interesting and worthwhile, 553 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: and I look forward to that if we can get him, 554 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: I mean, even if it's funny clear, even if we 555 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: got Karen bass On, I feel like she would just 556 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: say it would just be the stuff that she's prepared 557 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: to say, and we wouldn't get any answers. Every nothing 558 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: is her fault. They did everything right, and yet you know, 559 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: you hear all this stuff and you go, hold on, 560 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: so it's not your fault. It's not anybody's fault. And 561 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: everything that needed to go right from the government side 562 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: basically was done right by the people in charge. There 563 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: were some system issues, so nobody's nobody's accountably, you see 564 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: what I mean? Notice notice that, so nobody should get fired. 565 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: The whole neighborhood burned down, or neighborhoods, multip them, they's 566 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: burned down. They clearly were not prepared for this, They 567 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: had no ability to handle it. And nobody gets fired 568 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: or even resigns, really or steps Has anyone resigned or 569 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: stepped down? Don't know maybe someone's resigned, But anyway, I 570 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: just think it's indicative of the mindset. I'm gonna tell Clay. 571 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: What am I holding up right here is chalk. 572 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: When I walked into your place today, I said, my goodness, 573 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: you've lost a ton of weight. And one reason you've 574 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: done it is you've been using this. 575 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: When you work out. Susture is in fighting shape these days. 576 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: My friends, that's right down about thirty pounds. 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Fantastic, drinking it 626 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: right now, drinking it right now and getting us all 627 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: fired up. So please join a subscribe, become part of 628 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: the Crocket Revolution. Davy Crockett, amazing man, Let's get sorry. 629 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: I started to sound like Trump. Davy Crockett. Some people 630 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: are saying the most amazing on tear pietyer like ever seeing. Yeah, 631 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: here we go, we have uh Andy in Austin, Texas 632 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: talking to us about Ukraine. What's going on? 633 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 7: Hey, you know one thing I love about Trump and 634 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 7: his he's like Ronald Reagan on steroids. When he just 635 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 7: bypasses the media, He bypasses everything. 636 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: He doesn't allow the filters to. 637 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 7: Dictate the narrative of what he wants to say. And 638 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 7: so people might think that his comment on X about 639 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 7: Ukraine was for Zelenski, but it wasn't. 640 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: It was for the US senators that wanted to, you. 641 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 7: Know, support giving him more money. Uh So those guys 642 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 7: have a clear message right now. Lindsey Graham others lik 643 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 7: him that, you know, think the war in Ukraine is 644 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 7: a spend it all costs, you know, an item for 645 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 7: us financially here in the United States. They're going to 646 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 7: have to defend what Donald Trump just made real clear 647 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 7: that there really should be principles that every Amica I 648 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 7: can agree with about how we spend our money and 649 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 7: so and he didn't have to come out and name 650 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 7: many names. But if all of a sudden there's a 651 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 7: big spending package going through the Senate for Ukraine. 652 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: They're going to have to defend that position. And based 653 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 4: on Trump's you know, ex posts, So anyhow, it's he 654 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 4: just bypasses everything else says here it is now. 655 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: Yes, he is. 656 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: He is something of a disruptor, this Donald Trump. I 657 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: think that is definitely the case. Various stude comments, Andy, 658 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: thank you for calling in from Texas. 659 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take some of your calls in the third 660 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: hour on this. But the way that I would put 661 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: this into context is Trump is accelerating the end game 662 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. If he is saying, hey, we're not going 663 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: to give you an unlimited check. We know, unfortunately that 664 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost. We have 665 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 2: been effectively in a stalemate by and large, where both 666 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: sides are dug in and the lines aren't moving very 667 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 2: much for over a year now. There needs to be 668 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: a resolution, and the resolution is probably going to be 669 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: that Ukraine loses several of its provinces that are closer 670 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: to Russia. That seems like the only conclusion coming here. 671 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: Can I bring this back home here for a second, 672 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: everybody home, at least in the United States. Trump administration 673 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: is moving to break New York's congestion pricing here that 674 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: everyone listening on seven to ten wor and NYC, and 675 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about this President Trump taking upon 676 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 3: himself to end congestion pricing in America's biggest city. That 677 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: Eric Adams is like, thank you. That's very smart.