1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: together and Buck, we're gonna have some fun talking about 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: that game we saw last night, a big upset, huge 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: win for the Commanders on the road over the undefeated 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. But some other stuff we're gonna hit along 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: this episode that I'm fired up about. We're gonna we're 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna put two teams against each other and we're gonna 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: decide which future you'd rather have, and those two teams 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: are gonna be the Jags and the Bears. And it's 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting conversation. So we'll have that as 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: well as a sneak peek at a couple of these 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: top draft prospects as we head towards the spring. But 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: let's start off first of all, Monday Night Football. Your 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on that one, big one for the Commanders. Yeah, 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: big win for the Commanders. So let's take it from 17 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: the advantage point. Uh, the Commanders did something that I 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: don't think most coaches are willing to do, and that 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: is do whatever you need to do to win the game, 20 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: meaning change your approach alto your style to give your 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: team the best team chance to win against another opponent. 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: And so in this game, they basically played four corners basketball. 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: They ran the ball, I mean like forty almost fifty attempts, 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: just ran the ball. Even though they weren't having a 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: lot of success uh to three yards of pop. They 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: decided that they were going to run the ball to 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: keep the Philadelphia Eagles offense on the sideline until they credit. 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: They had a lot of success with the strategy. They 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: were able to successfully play keep away because they did 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: enough on third down, move the chains, stay ahead the schedule, 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: did a really good job of staying within themselves to 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: control the game. And then defensively they were able to 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: make enough stops, get enough turnovers to allow them to 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: stay in this very patient and deliberate half court basketball 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: style that helped him win a game. I wonder, Look, 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: they had so much success against the Eagles, is this 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: going to be a part of their identity going forward? 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: There the team to play stallball when everybody else wants 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: to fast break. Yeah, but look it was a narrow margin. 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: You see the final score, and obviously they got a 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: touchdown in the last play the game. Washington on a 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: lateral where the Philadelphia is trying to go down and 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: make something happen. So it kind of inflated that score 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. It was a narrow margin, but to 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: your point, but they held the ball for forty minutes. 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: They doubled up the Eagles in time of possession, so 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: they played keep away. As you mentioned, they got some 48 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: of those timely turnovers. But all that being said, I 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: tip my cap to them. But this was to me 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: more about the Philadelphia Eagles and somebody's self inflicted wounds. 51 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: They had the turnovers. Um, you have a situation where 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, the game ends on 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: just an unfortunate you know, kind of a brain cramp 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: by Brandon Graham who hits Heineke who was already taking 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: a knee and giving himself up, or you're gonna get 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: the ball back with a chance and drive down and 57 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: win the football game. That ends the football game. They 58 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: have a deep post to hit Quez Watkins, they get 59 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: an explosive, he pops up and tries to get a 60 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: couple extra yards and the ball gets punched out. So 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: that that is a huge turning point in that football game. 62 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: So you know, a j Brown not being a hundred percent. 63 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't the best game from Jalen Hurts. They kind 64 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: of limited his reality to create an extent and make 65 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: some things happen. There always just coming out underneath and quick. 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: And when they did hit that big shot down the field, uh, 67 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: it results in a turnover. The other turnover was a 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: deep post where we put a little too much air 69 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: on it allowed the safety was playing center field to 70 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: get over there and pick it off. But again, I 71 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: don't want to discredit the Commanders. It's a good win 72 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: for them. It's a great win on the road, but 73 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: I felt like the Eagles left a lot out there 74 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: in that game. DJ It goes to the classics saying 75 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: more games are lost than one. I do believe that 76 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: if you're on the field, if the Eagles side, you 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: certainly feel like you gave this game away, that you 78 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: didn't play your best. You gave them turnovers that I 79 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: would say, we're unforced turnovers, things that you normally should 80 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: take care of. Quiz why I Cans takes care of 81 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: the ball down a big play? Uh, Jalen Watkins doesn't 82 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: necessarily force the ball down the field in coverage. They've 83 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: been so good at it I think they came in 84 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: the game only having like three or so turnovers and 85 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: they have four in this game. And so it is 86 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: a typical of the Eagles to give the ball away 87 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: like that. And sometimes what happens is, man, you've reeled 88 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: off aid in a row. Maybe there's a little complain 89 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: to see that says you, or maybe it's just you 90 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: just talk it up to a bad day at the office. 91 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: But it was a game that certainly if the Eagles 92 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: could run it back, they certainly would love to run 93 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: it back because I'm sure they feel like nine times 94 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: out of ten they have a better team and when 95 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: they're playing their best game that they knock off to 96 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. So we'll see how it goes the next 97 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: time these guys square off. Officials missed a huge call 98 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: to on the face mask on the god or fumble again. 99 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: That's that's gonna happen throughout the course of You're gonna 100 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: have some balances that don't go your way. That's why 101 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: it's impossible to go undefeated. Hasn't happened back since seventy 102 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: two one. One thing on the positive side for the Eagles, 103 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: we just talked in the previous episode about the importance 104 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: of interior defenders and interior defensive linemen. We're gonna get 105 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: to some college defensive linements, some interior guys a little 106 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: bit later on the episode. Javon Hargrave and a losing 107 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: effort buck as a DT thirteen tackles a sack in 108 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: a TfL. Not often you see an interior defensive linement 109 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: rack up thirteen tackles. A pretty incredible performance on his part. Yeah, 110 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: pretty incredible. It also speaks to the game play. And 111 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: did the Washington commanders we're using they were trying to 112 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: run the ball between the tackles. They were giving it 113 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: to the big bag. Bryan, I'm saying early and often, 114 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: and Harger's is there to make the tackle. But you're right, 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: you don't see these into your players that can do 116 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: both things, meaning they can stop the run, but he 117 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: also can get after the pastor he's a unique playmaker. 118 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: But he certainly had a great game in a losing effort. 119 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Right before we move on here. Quarterback wise, it wasn't 120 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: a huge stat game. You talked about them running the football, 121 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: but Heineke with Carson Wentz coming back healthy, they stick 122 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: in there and they're gonna go back to Carson Man. 123 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: I think right now, like the guy is so good. 124 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: And even in the post game, I said, didn't listen 125 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: to Terry mclauren. Uh. He was on the show afterwards. 126 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: He was talking about just the grittiness, the toughness that 127 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: Taylor Haneke displays. They just ride with him and he's 128 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: done a really good job. Now he mentioned that we 129 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: can win with either guy, but I get the says 130 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: that sometimes man guys just have that in fact when 131 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: it comes to their team. And I believe this team 132 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: rallies behind Tyler Honeke because he's one of them. They 133 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: watched him jump in a bad situation when they had 134 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: to play Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the playoffs and he 135 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: had them going toe to toe with the eventual Super 136 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Bowl champs. They've them kind of have to work his 137 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: way and step in and step out of situations as 138 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: a supers up for this team, And so I think 139 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of respect there, and that respect brings 140 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: a level of currency when it comes to his ability 141 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: to lead this team. And so I think if you're 142 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera right now, you don't want to say, hey, 143 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna see Carson down. But I think what you do, 144 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: as you say, Carson, want to give you every opportunity 145 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: to get right less rib Taylor for a little longer, 146 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and to we have to give you an opportunity to 147 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: get your starting job back. Yeah. I agree. It's a 148 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: hot hand situation here. I mean, you're just trying to 149 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: win as many games as you can see if you 150 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: can't sneak into the tournament, So right now you've got 151 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: a hot hand. Write it on out. Um. It gives 152 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Carson once more time to get even more healthy. So 153 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: I think you do. You stick right there with tiny 154 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: key the way it's working right now. All right, we're 155 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna take a break. When we come back, we're gonna 156 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: talk about the Bears and the Jags looking at their rosters, 157 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: looking at their future draft capital. Which team would you 158 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: rather be. We'll have that discussion right after the break. 159 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: NFL Plus is the league's new exclusive video stream subscription service. 160 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: NFL Plus has your game day covered with live local 161 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: and prime time regular season and postseason games right on 162 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: your phone or tablet. NFL Plus is available in the 163 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: NFL app and at NFL dot com. Subscription plans started 164 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: at just four ninety nine a month. Fans can visit 165 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Plus dot NFL dot com and sign up for a 166 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: free trial of NFL Plus today. So, DJ, I want 167 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: to bring you in on this conversation because I think 168 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: it's a really interesting one. We're always having our team 169 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: build a hat on and we're sitting here looking at 170 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: two franchises. One I'm tied to the Jacksonville Jaguars, but 171 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: the other one the Chicago Bears, And I want to 172 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: ask you when you look at these situations, you look 173 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: at the roster, you look at the draft capital that 174 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: they have, you look at their quarterback situations. Which team 175 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: is in a better position to emerge as a team 176 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: to so a perennial contempt. Well, I think it's a 177 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: lot of different angles you can look at with this. 178 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: So I think you can start just with the quarterback, 179 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: and based on what we've seen especially lately with Justin Fields, 180 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: I think you give him the nod right now over Trevor, 181 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: and you can kind of look the numbers and what 182 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: they're on pace for right now. If you're just looking 183 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: at passing, you know Trevor's got a little bit higher 184 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: completion percentage. He's at sixty five point to significantly higher. 185 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: He's on pace for just under four thousand yards, twenty 186 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, ten picks fields. Is that right? At fift 187 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: he's on pace yards, twenty touchdowns, twelve picks. So the 188 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns interceptions are similar, you see, you know, a big 189 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: discrepancy in the yards, but then you add in fields 190 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: what he's doing on the ground leading all rooky quarterbacks 191 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: or all quarterbacks period seven or forty down yards, which 192 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Um, he's having a phenomenal year on the 193 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: ground with six touchdowns as well. So I think as 194 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: a complete player right now, I'd leaned Chicago with the 195 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. But when I look at the entirety of 196 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: the roster um and I take into account kind of 197 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: how quickly I think they can get this team up, 198 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: I think I would go with your Jags when you 199 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: look at some of the building pieces there with e 200 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: t n what we've seen from him, the two rushers, 201 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: you have young talented rushers with Josh Allen and Trayvon 202 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: Walker to go with Devin Lloyd looks like a star 203 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: as a linebacker. You look on the back end with 204 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: Tyson Animals is going to be a big time player. 205 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: I think they have more. I think they have more players, 206 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: a better nucleus going forward, but I think just the 207 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: quarterback you have to give the edge of the Bears. 208 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: You know, this is a very interesting debate because like obviously, um, 209 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: there's a little Homer bias, and because I've always around 210 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I see them each and every week, and 211 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: I do understand the talent that you point out. This 212 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: is a very talented team that still needs a few 213 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: other pieces, but they're good enough compete at the highest level. 214 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: When you talk about the quarterback, the quarterback is still 215 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: the guy that we saw coming out of Clempson. He 216 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: has big time on talent, he has playmaking ability. He's 217 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: been a little up and down. Some of that is 218 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: on him in terms of the lack of what I 219 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: would say on field maturity, in terms of understanding situations, 220 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: when to take care of the ball and those things, 221 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: but also some of the pieces around him. Uh, this 222 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: is a team that still lacks what I would call 223 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: that explosive playmaker down the field. And when do you 224 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: have someone who can take the top off the defense, 225 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: it alters the way people after the cover the rest 226 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: of your staff. It will be interesting to see what 227 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: he looks like when Calvin Ridley is available. If Kevin 228 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: really is able to play for the Jaguars, gives them 229 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: a true number one, and it kind of slices everybody 230 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: back into the natural pecking order. The pass rush that 231 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: you talk about, Trademon Walker is someone that is certainly 232 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: coming on. Demon Lloyd and I mentioned Chad MoMA, two 233 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: young guys uh playing linebacker that can really offer some 234 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: playmaking a building. And you're right, Tyson Campbell has the 235 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: makings of being a star corner. They need to ask 236 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: some pieces in the second year around him, uh, Andre 237 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Cisco and solid, but some more playmakers. But yeah, it's good. 238 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: The thing about it, though, DJ, my eyes go to 239 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: Chicago and I'm looking at what Justin Fields is doing, 240 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the I would say, the real 241 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: rebuild job that they've done on the fly for this offense. 242 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: They make two trades to get Nakill Harry and Chase 243 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Claypool to give him big playmakers on the out side. 244 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Not only because he's a guy who may struggle with 245 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: his accuracy, so those guys expand the strikes on. But 246 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: now that you've committed to running again offense, that is 247 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: more Baltimore Ravens like than a traditional offense. You need 248 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: big eyes on the outside, the block on the perimeter, 249 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: so they have that. They got two backs that right 250 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: now they're using in David Montgomery and Khalil Herbert that 251 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: are look sharing the workload. Now David Montgomery is a 252 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: free agent, so you get another back. But because Justin 253 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Fields is a commanding so much attention as a runner, 254 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: this offense is different. And they haven't even upgraded the 255 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: offensive line like I think they will, so offensively, they 256 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: have a chance to get back on track be a 257 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: rough and rugged team and as it appears to division 258 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: may come back to them. They have a chance to 259 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: be in the sending team. It's up to matt eaber 260 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Flews to figure out how he wants to configure his 261 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: defense after losing a Robert Quinn and the Rokuan Smith. 262 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: Can they get some blue chip players to plug into 263 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: those marquee spots as a pass rusher in a week's 264 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: side linebacker to help his defense play the way that 265 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: he wants to play. And you fast forward to the draft. 266 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: If the season and right now the Jacks have the 267 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: fifth pick. The Bears that have the sixth picks. Um, 268 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: you look in the second round, the Bears traded their 269 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: own second rounder, which is a high pick, which would 270 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: be the thirty seventh pick overall to Pittsburgh for Claypool. 271 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: But they do have a back end one that they 272 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: have for the ro Kuan Smith trade that gives them 273 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: the fifty ninth pick. The Jags been a little bit 274 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: better spot there in the second round because they have 275 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: their own second rounder, which would be the thirty sixth pick, 276 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: So they've got a chance again add some impact players 277 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: going into next year. I ask you this one just 278 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: because you're with the team. Buck, you know, I saw 279 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: him getting ready for that game against the Chargers. But 280 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: just give me your your opinion on this offensive line 281 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: for the Jags, the building pieces they have going forward. 282 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: I know we we talked about the Bears and the 283 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: work they have to do. How would you evaluate the 284 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: group there in Jacksonville? You know, it's a group that 285 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: has been solid, but not necessarily spectacular. Uh, your left 286 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: tackle and Kim Robinson is a guy who look commands 287 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: a big salary. I can't say that he's necessarily an 288 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: elite player, but he's a very very solid player. Uh. 289 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: They added Brandon Sherriff, bringing him over from the Washington 290 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Commanders to kind of solidify what they wanted to do 291 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: at right guard. You have Juwana Taylor who is playing 292 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: right Tacco who won a competition, will walk a little 293 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: to be the starter. Um. When you look at this team, 294 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and also mentioned Luke Ford and it was a draft pick. 295 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: Uh comes over from Kentucky, so he's a young guy 296 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: that's still trying to figure it out. When I look 297 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: at this team, I certainly believe they still can upgrade 298 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: some of those spots. A lot of it is trying 299 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: to figure out and Doug Peterson's first year, what's the 300 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: best way to play with the quarterback? What's the best 301 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: way to play with the running back? In Travis's et 302 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: t M so you want to solidify the offensive line. 303 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: But if you ask me, Travis Etien is a star, 304 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: but I believe they need to pair him with another 305 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: high end running back so you can run the football 306 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: and do some of the things that you want to do. 307 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: So if he's getting twenty two twenty two touches, I 308 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: think you need a heavy back of power back that 309 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: can kind of do some of the other stuff. When 310 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was with the Philadelphia Eagles. Remember when they 311 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. They had a collection of back 312 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: kind of sharing the load, but he always had a 313 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: banger in La Garrett Blunt. They need their version of 314 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: La Garrett Blunt, a bit physical guy that can kind 315 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: of set the tone and allow them to utilize some 316 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: play action to go with the power running game, to 317 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe manufacture some of those big plays down the field. Yeah, 318 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I mean to to kind of sum it up here, 319 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Are we on the same page? Coming if you're an 320 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: agreement right now? In the quarterback battle, I give the 321 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: slight edge to the Bears. But in the complete roster 322 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: and where I'd want to be going forward with what 323 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: they have, I think I'd rather be the Jacks. Yeah. Absolutely. 324 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I would say right now that Justin Fields has certainly 325 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: been a guy who's had an explosion the last four 326 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: or five games. I think, DJ What's funny about the 327 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: Justin Fields thing. We never saw him run like this 328 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. We knew he was athletic enough to 329 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: do these things, but it wasn't like they utilized him 330 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: in this fashion. He played more of a traditional quarterback 331 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: who had athleticism. The way they're Utilizing him now is 332 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: kind of like Lamar Jackson was utilized in Louisville. If 333 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: he shows this part of his game, I'm not saying 334 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: that the evaluation changes, but certainly he's showing some of 335 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: the stuff that we didn't fully see it. Ohio State, 336 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, it's gonna be interesting to watch these 337 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: two teams going forward. I do think they both have 338 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: bright futures. I believe both these quarterbacks. I know some 339 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: people have have been down on Trevor. I think Trevor 340 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be just fine. I'm seeing steps taking you 341 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: eet every week. Buck. I think he's gonna be a 342 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: really good player in this league. And I think the 343 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: roster outside him is in good shape. And I think 344 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: the Bears, you know Ryan Poles, and it's kind of them, 345 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna be a good job rebuilding this offensive line. 346 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: They're both their offensive line guys, so that's gonna be 347 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: a focus for them. I think you'll see that get 348 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: turned around there in Chicago as well. All Right, we're 349 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break, We're gonna come back. We're 350 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna take a peek at the Thursday night matchup we have, 351 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: which is an interesting one between the Titans and the Packers. 352 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: The Packers, by the way, just releasing a player. We'll 353 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: get you that information right after the break, as well 354 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: as look at a couple of these college dts. They're 355 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna be uh interesting draft prospects. We'll get to that 356 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: right after this, all right, Buck, I teased it previously. 357 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: There was a player was released for the Green Bay 358 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Packers and Mary Rodgers wide receiver was a third round pick. 359 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: UM interesting discussion there on him. I want to get 360 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this before we get to preview in 361 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: this game, because I think there's a scouting takeaway that 362 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: we could do here when you have a player that 363 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: hasn't really worked out and Marie Rogers. So I'll go 364 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: back and look up the notes that we had and 365 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: I had on him coming out, and I want to 366 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: compare him to another player and see what we missed 367 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: or what I missed. Amari Rodgers was five oh nine, 368 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: two twelve pounds. I didn't have a four day don't think. 369 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he ran that year, So that was 370 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: I believe that was the COVID years. Everybody's just running 371 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: in pro days and he wasn't able to run. Um uh, 372 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: pump returner, quick hitters, he's strong. UM. I thought he 373 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: was really tough. They use him on jet sweeps. UM. 374 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: I thought he had concentration drops. Um. Those are some 375 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: of the notes on him. But here you have a 376 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: player that's taken in that range that didn't work out, 377 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: and the player I had rated just behind him a 378 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: few spots Aman Ross st Brown, who we could compare 379 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: them as players coming out a little very similar in 380 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: terms of play style. Almarab was five four, so a 381 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: little lighter. He ran four or five nine, so it 382 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: wasn't a burner at the Pro day. But when I 383 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: go through and look at his notes, a lot of 384 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: the toughness stuff, the football intelligence working in traffic, shovels, 385 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, physical after the catch. But the notes that 386 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: I hadn't here on him that are different is he 387 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: was quicker and efficient, like more efficient as a route runner. 388 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: And I wondered if there's some takeaway we can from 389 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: have from that for one guy who's been wildly successful 390 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: in that division and the guy just got cut. Yeah, 391 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: now I want to uh food disclosed for the Green 392 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. I think maybe at the time they had 393 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: his older brother, Equanimius st. Brown on the roster, and 394 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: so maybe there was something where they didn't want to 395 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: deal with that fact that whatever timer was taking brothers 396 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: and etcetera, etcetera. I would say this, the two players 397 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: to me were different in terms of how they were 398 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: deployed and utilized UH during their collegiate careers. To me, 399 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: Maham Ross St. Brown showed number one potential even though 400 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: he was a little maybe smaller than you would necessarily 401 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: want as a number one. I feel like a Marie 402 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers was a pure slot receiver and that was the 403 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: only role that he would be able to play at 404 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: the next level. It's really weird to me that it 405 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: didn't work out for him in Green Bay. And I 406 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it's necessarily a prospect thing or developmental thing, 407 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: because the next thing that I would say is, well, 408 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: let's look in and see have any other young wide 409 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: receivers developed and worked out for this coaching staff in 410 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: this regime in recent years. And so with a Mariy Rogers, 411 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: he had the trade in terms of being a punp returner, 412 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: to be someone that could be dynamic, that would be 413 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: able to give them run after the catch. For whatever reason, 414 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: it didn't work in Sometimes, Man, you just need a 415 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: change of environment to be able to maximize the player. 416 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: I do remember at Clemson, Man, he was a guy 417 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: that was a very consistent chain mover. It just never materialized. 418 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: And without having the intel inside the building of knowing 419 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: a was it a uh an ability to kind of 420 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: master the scheme issue? Was it a lack of connectivity 421 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: with him and Aaron Rodgers? There was something that is 422 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: missing because God, who was as talented as he was 423 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: and displayed the stuff that he displayed at Clemson, he 424 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: should have been able to kind of crack the lineup 425 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: and be a player for the Green Bay Packers. And 426 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: it never materialized, no doubt. Um, you know, it's unfortunate 427 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: for him. Hopefully catches on somewhere else, gets a shot 428 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: uh and and cashing on some of that potential we 429 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: saw in him coming out Titans Packers. This feels to 430 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: me a very simplistic The way to frame this game 431 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: is a Green Bay Packers team that wants to be physical. 432 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: That kind of is the identity that they're pursuing, and 433 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: we've seen glimpses of it, like we saw in their 434 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: previous game against the Cowboys. But they're going up against 435 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: the authentic, real deal physicality of the Tennessee Titans. So 436 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. We're gonna learn a lot about 437 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, whether or not last week was 438 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: something they can build on, or whether that was the 439 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys just not finishing the ballgame and the Green 440 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Bay Packers or who we thought they were previously. But 441 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: this is a this is a group that wants to 442 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: be tough versus a group might be the toughest with 443 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: the way they've played under my grabel last few years. 444 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the Green Bay Packers will get a strong 445 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: deals of truth serum. We're gonna see if they really 446 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: want to be about physicality and toughness this week, because 447 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: I love the fact that they ran the football and 448 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: that they had over two hundred yards rushing, But like, 449 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: that has to be something that's in you, and that 450 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: has to be something that as a coach you're okay 451 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: with that, because to be committed to the running game, 452 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: you gotta be able to live through some of these 453 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: stretches where you may go an entire half and maybe 454 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: you only have thirty or five rushing yards, but you 455 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: can continue to give your running backs to carries because 456 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: you know in the second half f the walls are 457 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna eventually fall down. I don't know if Matt Lafleur 458 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: is committed to running the ball like that. So you're right, 459 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: this test against the Tennessee Titans and what they present 460 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: upfront at the line of scrimmage is going to let 461 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: us know if Matt la Fleur is willing to fully 462 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: lean into being a physical, smash mouth team or if 463 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: that was something that they just did in a one 464 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: off situation against the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I just think 465 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: of gosh, what was it was? It was Rocky or Apollo. 466 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: I think it was Rocky when he went to go 467 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: to shake hands or whatever touch gloves with Drago and 468 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: he goes to like pound his gloves and drag hands 469 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: don't move. Like that's That's kind of what I get 470 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 1: with this game right here, Like Okay, like you're you're 471 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna find out that we're gonna learn a lot about 472 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and how physical they are. Uh, 473 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: this is going to test them in that way big time. 474 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: So looking forward to watch that game on thursdayn and 475 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: again you can find that on Prime Video. That's an 476 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: eight fifteen Eastern. The game is also available on NFL Plus. 477 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: UM We've talked a lot recently about in her defensive lineman, 478 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be a good time to go 479 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: over some of these top guys from the draft. So 480 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: I went through and watched three guys in the last 481 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. And I'll start first of all with 482 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter from Georgia. I went back and, uh, you know, 483 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: I see kind of you know, what I thought of 484 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: him over the summer, and then I know the stats 485 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: aren't crazy. I know he's missed a little bit of time, 486 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: hasn't been totally healthy. But I flipped on the tape 487 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: the first game I watched his Mississippi State, and I'm like, 488 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm in, Like, I'm convinced this dude is. He has 489 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: got explosion his lower body, his ability to get off 490 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: the ball went on the edges. He's got instincts. There's 491 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: a play I posted buck where he gets upfield and wins. 492 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: He sees it's an inside run, he spins back inside, 493 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: makes the tackle. He's got he's got uh moves with 494 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: his hands. You see a push poll, you'll see, you know, 495 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: violent hands that he possesses he's a complete player. Um, 496 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: he's a major disruptor along the interior of the line 497 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: for for Georgia and somebody I think in the league 498 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: that's looking for guys like this, he's gonna go extremely high. DJ. 499 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: I think it's funny because I think all you have 500 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: to do is go back to the evaluations that we 501 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: did last year and the guys that they had a front, 502 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: and you're watching the tape and you're looking at all 503 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: these guys, You're like, Okay, there's Jordan Davison. Oh, this 504 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: na Kobe Dean, and okay, there is Tradmond Walking, But hey, 505 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: who's this guy? Like w who is this guy that's 506 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: not on my list? Carter is still that same guy, man, 507 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: He's still the guy that that that steps up and shines. 508 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: And I think what happens and what will happened for 509 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: me is the success of the other guys immediately in 510 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: the league this year will really make me go all 511 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: in on him because last year we had questions about 512 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: the Georgia guys because of the lack of production, but 513 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: the defense was a historic defense in the SEC and 514 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: in college football. Well, now I'm less likely to worry 515 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: about some of the production because I know the dominance 516 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: is there and I know that that translates to the 517 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: next level. This is a guy that has all the 518 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: physical tools that you want and you covered at the position. 519 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: He has the motor and look, I know he's been 520 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: coached the right way. He's gonna play at a high 521 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: level at the next level. And we've seen the DJ 522 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: Remember we s sitting rooms and there's certain guys that 523 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: may don a certain helmet that you know when they 524 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: come from that school, they're gonna play and they're gonna 525 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: play well. Well, George is one of those schools and 526 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: he's one of those players. Percent. Man, he's an easy 527 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: evaluation on the tape. So um, you know, we'll see 528 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know all the off field stuff, We'll see 529 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: how he is in that department. I literally have no idea, 530 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: but man, if assuming he's just clean and there's no 531 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: issues off the field, this this is like a no 532 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: brainer top five type player. Uh and just about any 533 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: draft class alright. The next one from Baylor, Siaki Eca. 534 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: This is a totally different type of player. Six and 535 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: fifty plus pounds. He is a sitting anchor to gap 536 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: nose tackle. Um. He does have some sneaky quickness to 537 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: be able to kind of get on an edge a 538 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: little bit. They don't ask him to do a lot 539 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: of it. It's just a lot of sitting clogg and 540 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: two gap does have a little bit of range against 541 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: the run. No sacks to speak of this year. He 542 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: did have four last year. Um, so I'm looking forward 543 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: to go back and dig into some of that tape 544 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: from the previous year. But if you're a team that 545 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: you know that values a big guy like that, you're 546 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: gonna take him. It's just hard, you know, over the 547 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: last few years, to be somebody that doesn't offer a 548 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: ton of pass rush as an interior defensive lineman. You 549 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: don't traditionally see those guys go super high in the draft. 550 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: I would think that probably carries over a little bit 551 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: with him. But if you have you have issues with 552 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: the run, you need big bodies, and some of these 553 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: two high teams that play with light boxes, I think 554 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: don't like him a little bit more than others. Yeah, absolutely, 555 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: DJ and I think this is the thing. I think 556 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: what you have to do when you're a team builder, 557 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: you have to be able to kind of have a 558 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: vision for how the league may shift. I think if 559 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: we're paying real close attention to the way the league 560 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: is going, we're beginning to see the running game, uh 561 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of come back and being a very important factor 562 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: and how teams are running their offense. And so as 563 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: you're thinking about if that's coming back on offense, I 564 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: better start gearing up my defense to be ready to 565 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: stop that. And there's nothing like having a zero gap 566 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: nose tackle that can command and control both a gaps, 567 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: regardless of the scheme, whether you want to tilt the 568 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: nose or play them straight up in the two gap position, 569 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: if you have someone who's heavy handed at that position 570 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: and can make the center turtle up, it is an 571 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: advantage for you. He has that ability. I don't think 572 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: he's in the category of the Dexter Lawrences and some 573 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: of those guys who have shown pass rush ability, but 574 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: that's okay. I think there's a role for him, and 575 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: I think you have to have a vision for how 576 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: you want to play him and try and figure out 577 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: where is that value early because there's certainly a hop 578 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: a need for this kind of player in the league. 579 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: Is just where do you value with in terms of 580 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: the way that you're building your team to him? The futures. Yeah, 581 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: and I think we'll see too with teams trying to 582 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: you know, take away explosives and playing a lot of 583 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: shell coverage, maybe bigger bodies are gonna come back a 584 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: little bit more upfront, as you mentioned, as teams start 585 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: to run the football. So maybe that will help his stock. 586 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: Brian Berzi from Clemson the third one that I popped 587 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: in and watched. Flashes. You see some real flashes they 588 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: use up and down the line. They move them all 589 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: over the place in their front. You see at a 590 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: four point, you'll see him at the point. Um, he 591 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: does have some quickness, Buck, I don't you know. My 592 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: question with him was a little bit more of the 593 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: gas tank. I thought when he's out there extended period 594 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: of time, I thought he wore down a little bit. Um, 595 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: he still got a big knee on, So see where 596 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: he is from from a health standpoint. But does have 597 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: some quickness at his best, just kind of slanting trying 598 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: to just get in the gap, shoot a gap and go. 599 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: But there's something to work with. Their absolutely doesn't have 600 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: a ton of production that two and a half sacks 601 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: this year. Um, he's only got twelve tackles so far 602 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: this season. But somebody that I you know, I've just 603 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: heard a little bit about his personal story with sister 604 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: tragically passing away and and everything you hear about him 605 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: from scalps that have rolled in there is that this 606 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: guy's uh he's absolutely wired the way you like him 607 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: to be wired. He's a great kid. So um, somebody 608 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna be doing more work on him as we 609 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: build through the process. But definitely I see the flashes 610 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: to get people excited. Yeah, I just remember the kid 611 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: I think coming on the high school circuit. I think 612 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: he was the cast me out coming out, uh, five 613 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: star telling the guy it was a big deal when 614 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: Clemson got him. And I just remember watching him as 615 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: some of these are missing high school with his hand 616 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: skills and those things like he looked at that age 617 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: to be a pro. And so I know he's had 618 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: a neat issue. I know we talked about like the 619 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: staminate endurance. Uh. The one thing that I would say 620 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: is depending on how close has been since that injury 621 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: and him coming back and working through that, he is 622 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: best football might be a hit as he fully recovers 623 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: and fully settles in. I think a lot of it 624 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: DJ is how are you going to utilize him because 625 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: I think in the right scheme you're talking about a 626 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: very dominant player who has not only the mentality to 627 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: be a dominant player, but he has a toolbox loaded 628 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: with enough tools to be a guy that can be 629 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: a disruptive player at the point of attack. Yeah, well, 630 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: he's a He's an interesting player, no doubt. To see 631 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: how he kind of finishes up the year. All these teams, 632 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: you have big games, you got rivalry games, you've got 633 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: conference championship games, and in his case, maybe even playoff games. 634 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: So you've got a chance to really up your stock 635 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: as you go towards the finish line. Anything else you 636 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: want to add in here, Buck. As we wrap this 637 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: one up, DJ, I think, um, we're kind of in 638 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: the stretch run, you know, like we kind of talked 639 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: about breaking it up in years. I think the old 640 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: scouting us is beginning to come because Thanksgiving has always 641 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: kind of been like that Moustone marker, where uh we 642 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving all your reports to do, And so as 643 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: we begin to talk a little more about college, it 644 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: does kind of signal a minds you, Hey, let's start 645 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: talking about the draft of the star starting out who 646 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: these guys are, and so on the podcast you will 647 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: begin to hears talk more about the college game and 648 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: some of the notable players and prospects that are about 649 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: to come out in three draft. Absolutely looking forward to 650 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: that time of year. It's it's what we live for. 651 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun, so be on the lookout 652 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: for that with another episode coming your way here in 653 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: a few days. But we appreciate you guys hanging with us. 654 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: A reminder all the content you can find it moved 655 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: the sticks content, NFL YouTube, NFL dot com, the NFL channel, 656 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: the NFL app uh, it's all gonna be there for you, 657 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you hanging with We'll catch you next 658 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: time right here and move the sticks.