WEBVTT - Best of "Deep 3" 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.480 Steve Smith Senior and I'm Gerar a little John and 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:15.960 this is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.520 That's getting down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.040 one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.040 him about it, then we're about to let you know. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:41.480 It's all Tory Smith, two times Super Bowl champions, eight 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.000 year NFL veteran with the Ravens, forty Honors Eagles Panthers, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.760 and he's the founder of the Tory Smith Family Fund 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.760 with his wife Shannel. Yeah, we're about to go into 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.800 a part of our podcast we like to call the 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.520 deeper three. And so we know that a three route 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.480 isn't deep. So you're gonna let us be great anyway. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.520 So we know that, but uh, these next three, these 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.960 next three questions just allow us to take a deeper 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.759 dive into you, you know, as a person beyond your profession. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.000 So Smitty, go ahead and uh lead us into the 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:15.080 deep three. You celebrated an anniversary with your wife, Um 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:16.920 a couple of weeks back, and so I want to 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.400 ask you, what is being a father and a husband 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:27.480 meaning you today means everything? You know, we just celebrated 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:34.360 year seven and the responsibility that comes with that. Every 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.679 time I look at my wife, every time I look 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:42.000 at my kids, I look at the individuals that I 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.080 prayed for and that I made decisions for without even 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:51.240 knowing they existed. And to add a responsibility to provide 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.000 for them, to be challenged by my wife, to be 0:01:54.240 --> 0:02:00.000 a better communicator, to not let my past um impact 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.840 the way that I am with my kids, and to 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:05.639 be able to see them through and lead them. Um. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.560 It's special, you know, and she's special and the way 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.040 she helps challenge me. So I'm for sure thankful for it. 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.960 And that's the biggest responsibility that I'll ever have on 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.600 this on this earth. And I don't take it for granted, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.840 and I don't take the responsibility lightly. You know. It's 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.280 I'm fortunate that, you know, I was able to play 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.800 as long as I did, and I'm looking forward to, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.560 you know, being more present now with my kids, and 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:31.959 I'm trying to be a better father and a better 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:37.320 husband myself. That's where you talked a lot about your childhood, 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.519 what you saw, what you what your experience looking back 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:44.079 on it? Now, what does forgiveness mean to you as 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.840 an adult? M hm hmm. It's really good right there. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:53.800 But but put me in counsel right now now. Forgetting 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.440 this is huge, man. Do you know for me how 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.960 hard it was? Forgettness is everything, but for givingness isn't easy. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.600 I will say that, um. But when you do it, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.360 it's very free, Like you feel like you have a 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.920 weight lifted off of you, like it's not yours to carry. Um. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:16.239 But I've been able to forgive my mother's ex husband. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.720 Forgive doesn't mean that we're buddies or that we're gonna 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.000 be hanging out, nothing like that. That might work for 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.440 some people, but that's not working with me in this situation. Um. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.440 But I forget. I forgive him, um. And you know, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.040 but we're all sinners just like him, UM, and I'm 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.680 no better. So I forgive him. Man, I I can 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.840 move on. I don't care that same type of hatred 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.240 that I used to have, that same type of hatred 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.440 that would cause me to be up at night or 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.800 the being a rage every time I even think of 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.920 his hear his name or picture his face, you know, 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.000 like I don't have that anymore. UM. I think of 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.240 forgetting this for my mother as well. M hm. I 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:01.279 used to judge my mother and and for the situations 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.160 that she put me through, or my brothers and my 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.880 siblings through. Um, I carried a lot of weight. You know, 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.560 I've always loved my mother through that. But I carried 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.119 I was, I had carried a lot of weight, and 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.240 and honestly, I would say hatred towards a lot of 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.640 things towards her in a lot of ways, UM, that 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:25.000 I no longer have because my perspective is different. I've 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.479 forgiven her and I understand, you know when I think 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.520 about now again, I'm not taking away from the fact 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.560 that these were her decisions and she made them. But 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.960 I just take a look back at where I was 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.960 at twenty five and where she was at five, and 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.840 if I was in this situation, what I have been 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.960 or done any better? And when you think about it, 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.160 it's you know, it's it's a tough situation, UM, And 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.120 your perspective is different. Right, I was twenty five years old, Stephen. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.880 I think I was just around you, right, I was 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.920 around that age, and you know, my mother had must 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.760 for kids and still trying to survive, literally survived for 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:08.240 abusive relationship. So, um, it was a different thing. But 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.880 I've been able to forgive her, and now I don't. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.760 I don't. I don't bring that up, you know. I 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.839 try not to talk about the past towards her, because 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.479 you can't truly forgive someone to interact with them if 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.480 you're gonna throw it in every phase, every single time, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.640 you know, you get into an argument or you bring 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.800 back these old feelings. They may never go away. But 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.720 I forgiven it, so I know not to bring it up, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.320 you know, And and that's huge for me. That's powerful. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:39.320 Show the last question to end it all, if you, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.120 if older Tory had the opportunity to go back in 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:52.120 time and write a letter to young Tor what to say, Um, 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.200 don't let your circumstances of situations make your heart cold. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.960 I feel like everything I'm telling y'all, I've missed out. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.560 Not even that I missed out. I've carried a lot 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:11.440 of weight. Um. I built up these walls to protect 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.520 me from so many things, and it's even blocked me 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.880 from the ability to love the right way. Like I'm 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.400 I'm I'm a thirty one year old man, and I'm 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.880 I have to learn how to love, like that's the 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:28.680 weirdest thing to say, um, because love to me, like 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.560 I said that people around me, I like, if this 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.200 is loved and and you're saying you love me, like 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.800 this doesn't add up, like you know, like these decisions, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.159 the situations you put me in, this isn't love right. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.640 And so for me that process is with my my wife, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.880 um being I was I'm super awkward, Like I didn't 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.400 tell people, um, I love them, like I made sure 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.000 because of what I saw and what people said, I 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.200 love you and I love you carried no weight. I 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.400 needed to know that your action showed it. So I 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.440 went until I was probably about years old but probably 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.600 been told my people around me and started telling them 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:09.760 that I love them because it didn't make any sense 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.080 as the acci didn't show. And I always and everyone's like, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.360 you know, you just know how tor is. You know 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.200 how tor is, Like he's gonna show, he's not gonna 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.640 say it right, And I just kind of started listening 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.120 to that a little bit and think like, well, if 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.920 I'm gonna complain about how it was for me coming up, 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.400 I'm no better in the way that I'm handling these things, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.400 and it made me cold in a lot of ways. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.240 I'm used to disappointment, um from other people. I'm used 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.960 to being disappointed from other people's actions. I'm used to 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.280 uh failure, and so all of these things kind of 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:47.480 built this cold heart that honestly, my wife has probably 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.880 felt the biggest blow from that and and her journey 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.760 with me and helping me to be better. So, um, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.920 I would say that just open up more and not 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:00.600 take as long, because I think God would be a 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.960 lot more. I think my heart is pure in terms 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.560 of like my intentions and my love is. I feel 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.240 like it's being the goal and the objective and what 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.640 I want and what I projected is pure and real. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.640 But um, I know my co heart and feelings have 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:23.080 hurt some people along the way. We appreciate you coming on, man, 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:27.120 We appreciate your time. And I think the last thing 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:33.760 after that tour, yep, I love you bro, Love you too, man, 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.200 love you too, Love you too. Bro. Appreciate you Man. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:46.760 Mohammed Massaqui, five year NFL veteran, a graduate of the 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.800 University of Georgia, an entrepreneur, graduate from the Harvard Business 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:57.000 School and just overall, good dude. All right, here's my 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.240 first one. And I put a lot of thought into 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.960 it because I, you know, just preparing for this, knowing 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.280 how how deep you are, what you've been through, and 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.760 it's been it's been awesome to kind of just walk 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:16.400 through this journey with you. You've you've had many mountaintop 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.960 experiences and some valleys. When you sit on the porch 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:25.200 of life with a beverage in one hand and two 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.880 listening capable ears? What is life? Taught you that you 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.800 can use what is life? On my thoughts? Going crazy? 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:40.080 I don't want to It is a six pound Jorkie. Poor. Uh, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:46.520 you just off that you lost so man and came 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.040 with marriage. Bro, you you know, don't put that on 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:54.760 their life. Now. We're not gonna let you do that. No, miss, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.640 Why that's what you gotta do, even though I'm the one. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:05.080 That's why he's backing it up. Yeah you know. Um, 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:12.680 I'm sorry. What what is life? Yeah? What is like? Yeah? 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:17.720 What is like? Taking me? Um? I got a friend. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:23.240 He has a quote he said, the unknown opportunities excite me, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.280 whether the future makes me nervous. And so I've I've 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.160 lived by that to where you know a lot of 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.880 times we're gonna live in the past and we want 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:37.480 to think of like the best days of whatever have 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:42.640 have gone. And so whatever these future opportunities are, they're 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.360 they're exciting, and if you do what you need to do, um, 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.760 you can prepare for it. And even at the end, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.560 like the future opportunities sometimes not even yours is living 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.160 through your seats, living through your kids, and so that 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:59.080 legacy of you know, given the next generation something to 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:04.520 build for it on is what's exciting. Mo If you 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.599 had to go back in time to Cleveland with the 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:12.000 knowledge you have now, what would you do differently? And 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:17.640 I would? I would I would reach out two vets. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.240 I wouldn't try to figure it out on my own 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.720 like I would. I would figure out a way to 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.640 get in contact with some media, to figure out a 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.720 where to get in contact with Moose. I figure out 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.120 a way to spend more time with Hinds versus trying to, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.400 you know, put together all these pieces by myself. Um. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.880 You know, when I don't think people like rely on 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.120 just other good people functions at the high level a 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.520 lot of times, and so I would know how to 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:50.240 do that better. M What drives you now what's your why? 0:11:54.360 --> 0:12:00.960 My why? Man? I could say my daughter, uh and 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:06.480 and having a child that puts everything in perspective. Um. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:11.520 But then I I told somebody like I think I 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.719 got fifty percent out of my athletic ability, and he 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.440 thought I was crazy. Um, and I like broke it 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.600 down just like some of the things that we talked 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.920 about of just not knowing um, some of the areas 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.360 that you don't develop it And so the why now, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.760 it's just maximizing my human potential, like whatever gifts God 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.440 has given me on this planet and not wanting them 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:44.480 go um, undeveloped and unshared. You know, especially when you 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.680 you know a lot of times people don't athletes don't 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.080 do things selfishly just because of themselves. They're doing it 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.760 for family, they're doing it for impact. That the work 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.439 that you're doing in the community, or both of you're 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.880 doing in the community. It's not just all about speech Smith, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.520 it's not just all about g And the higher you function, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.720 the more you're able to give, the more you're able 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.959 to do to empower other people. And so in realizing 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.840 that there's a lot that can be done to do that, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.400 it's just the potential to see it all the way 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:24.640 through UM in all aspects. Paige Demacos, she's the chief 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.720 operating officer of the Draft Neckwork. She's co host of 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.600 the TV in Fantasy podcast, and she makes a mean 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:40.640 Greek chicken. How do you want to impact the world? UM? 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:47.280 Right now and also in five years? The good question, UM, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.280 thank you. I want to impact. I want to impact 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.320 the world and talked about it a little earlier, but 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.520 I want to be a leader of a sports media 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:59.320 company that helps change what what it looks like in 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:04.360 sports UM. And that means getting more women and minorities 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.640 and making sure that there are more opportunities at the 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.840 ground floor to make sure that we are allowing those 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:14.120 people to elevate properly, because unless we change it at 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.200 the beginning, we're gonna have some of the situations like 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.480 we talked about, where you're gonna make a higher just 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.880 to make a higher and they're not going to be qualified. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.480 Our responsibility is to foster people and have internships and 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.440 create opportunities so we can get more diversity, so that 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.720 when I go to on a trip to the combine, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.000 it's not ninety eight percent white guys. It's a more 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.440 honest reflection of what our country looks like. And I 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.480 think that's I know that that's super ambitious, but I'm 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.320 an ambitious person. So that's that's what I want now, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.840 and it's what I wanted in five years, because I 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.400 would hope that in five years I'm gonna be an 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.240 even better, more prominent, more powerful position to do more 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.680 of it and quite honestly expect more of it from 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.960 other people that are also in my position, and I 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.600 think that will that will be something that will be 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.560 exceptionally powerful. So then what does success mean to you? 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.840 What if this it success mean to use? Success is 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.280 every single day. To me, there is there is something 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.000 to be said about competing with yourself and I have 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:28.720 always done this, and to me, it's a success every day, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:34.480 a competition every day, a challenge every day. Because if 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.920 you start setting benchmarks of this is success for me, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.720 then what's after that? Right? So to me, it's it's 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.840 every day and there's no there's no endgame here. That's 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.520 not there's no endgame. It's it is constantly getting better 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.600 at every aspect of what I do, whether that's in 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.760 my work life, in my personal life. Quite frankly, one 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.120 of the things I love competing and having success in 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.240 most is is as an ass ead and and working 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.720 out every day and setting little micro challenges that make 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.960 me feel successful every day. Like that, it's success to me. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.960 It's every day, it's showing up. It's it's making those 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:15.200 competitions that force you to always be the right amount 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:20.320 of uncomfortable, so you're constantly getting better. You can go 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:24.320 backwards and write a letter to young page, what would 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:30.200 you tell her to be on the lookout for, UH 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:35.400 for this year? Specifically, I would tell myself eight months ago, 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:40.200 I would tell myself to relax because it's man, it's 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.240 it's been a journey, UH, this this last since I 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:48.120 left the Combine, UH, life change a whole lot. The 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.320 second that I got back from being in a bubble 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.080 for ten days in Indianapolis. And if I could talk 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.200 to myself just getting back to the Combine, I would 0:16:55.200 --> 0:17:00.560 tell myself just relax, like everything's gonna be okay. Just relax. Um. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.440 But if I could talk to my younger self, UM, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.600 I would definitely go back to you know, a much younger, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:11.119 ambitious eighth grader who at that time was like, I 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.239 want to work in sports and was getting bullied by 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.480 a lot of people at school, and would tell that 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.399 person that those people were going to ask you for 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:25.240 fantasy football advice and tickets and and being and having 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.600 access to your friends who play in the league, and 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.080 that they don't matter. And so I would tell that 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.399 eighth grader to not care about other people so much 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.520 and just know that eventually those people are gonna be 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.679 asking you for stuff and it's never not going to 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:50.400 feel good. 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Harold Varner. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.080 He's a PGA Tour member since two thousand and sixteen. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.760 He's a native of Gaston in North Carolina. He went 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.840 to college at East Carolina University and he's a member 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:58.159 of Brand Jordan's So tell us, so you said you 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.199 had a good chafing story, tell a show when I 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:06.160 turned pro. My really good friend and agent now he manager. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:11.680 He caddy for me for my first seven er or so. Yeah, No, 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.440 he came. He came out to hopper nice. We missed 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:15.920 the cut the first week, and then we went down 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.760 this place. We missed the cut. But when he wins, 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:24.240 he don't say we takes all the glory. We missed 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.960 the co He went the next week. We get so. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.439 I I just as a kid growing up, I just 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.200 always if I chafed, you know, you do that, you 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.480 do it afterwards, you like, you know, make sure you 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.320 don't put any lotion on, you know, like it'll burn whatever. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.680 But we get down the river landing. I had never 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.400 heard a baby powder like being uh yeah, using baby 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.400 papers period, were just using it as a No. I've 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.359 heard a baby but not for like grown men chafing. 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.239 You know, I never i'd have heard of gold bin. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.000 I didn't like the way that goldon smelled, you know, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.080 I just never really yeah, and they're all in the 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.679 locker rooms. I wonder you don't go in there. That's disgusting. 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.919 Go ahead. So we uh he played professional baseball and 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.600 I'm like, he's like, man, you don't put on baby powder. 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.160 I'm like, I ain't never heard of. It smells good, 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:12.880 Like if it does the same trick, you know, I'm 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.760 gonna start using that. Man. I came out there and 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.119 I put on my shorts. Then I had baby powder 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:24.040 going everywhere, like coming through my shorts. We use baby powder. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.800 Were you playing because there's so much And that was 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.439 first time about the hitting. You hit your side. I 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.040 got on the lebron thing just in reverse. So the 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.920 one thing that I like until so I didn't chafe. 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.679 And all I remember is that week it was like 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.399 a hundred and we were sweating. Every time my hands 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.159 got you know, sweaty, hit my shorts and it was 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.720 driving because the baby they called that cheap, So it 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.960 was yeah, that's my that's my chafing story. I've never 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.720 chafed sinceon. So I just it smells so much better. 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.840 Whenever you know, you're like, because sometimes when you use 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.000 that gold band, you start sweating. Man, you don't, I 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:09.320 know you don't change. But m hm mm hmm started happening. 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.960 You travel all the world around the world, and the 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.000 only thing you picked up in golfers learned how not 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.720 to chase and use gold Yeah you chafe one time, 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.560 you know you better have I used A. I was 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.520 using A and D and it was just like look 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.520 you know, oh yeah you was definitely some old person. 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:30.040 And yeah, it's unbelievable. Once you chafe, what does A 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.680 and D. It's like thing and you just you put 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.840 it where you're chafing. It like chaffing is basically where 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.240 your inner thighs are rubbing against each other because you 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.640 can get it right here, oh because of the swing. 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:45.040 It's wherever Like there's like again this audio podcast, they 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.880 don't know what you're pointing to. Oh, under your armpits. 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:52.280 People get it when they run. You didn't know that. Yeah, 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.880 I didn't know until I got to the baby pattered thing. 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.520 I started looking up why people chasing? That's how I 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.800 found out now. But Goldband did come out with a 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.320 deodorant stick that is fire. I should be sponsored by 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:12.640 gold What about blistering with with with shoes? Shoes never 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:17.440 had a blister period, No on my feet. I got 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:23.159 the worlds they did kind of shoot you guy your 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.760 feet on. I mean maybe as a kid when they 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.000 came out with the classics that look like old shoes, 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.320 maybe then. But even then, I don't know if I 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.639 had cowst up in the right spots. But my on 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:42.240 my little toe, I have like a little thing. I 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.000 got one on my thumb side too, but it just 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.080 doesn't I don't chafe. It's or I don't blister up. 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:53.000 Do you do you lay out any of your clothes before? No, man, 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.680 I could be color blind when it comes to match 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:57.680 and I get I get Amanda to do on my shot. 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.840 What yeah, mandal pick on my outfits and then iron 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.040 them and then I'll travel. He gets it done for me, 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.280 but I did. We bought a rug for the house 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:09.920 and she said it was blue, and I didn't see 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:14.240 any blue in this right. I'm the worst matcher ever. Really, 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:19.800 Oh my gosh, dude, you don't understand. Here's the last 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.920 question I got. A question is is there is there 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.720 the unwritten rule there's only one person allowed to wear 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:33.159 red on Sunday? Patrick read wear's red on Sunday. I 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.000 don't think there's I mean, if you like being talked about. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.679 You wear that red, I wear purple. I went to 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:44.160 East Carolina just you just Sunday. I mean people, I mean, 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:48.200 I don't. It's very few people that wear the same 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.360 colors on Sunday. In general. They might have a night 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.280 outfit that they're picked out to wear on Sunday, but 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:58.160 very few people are like, I'm wearing the same color Sunday. 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.400 Everybody knows tiger works. That be you try to come 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.119 back out and wear red and black when you know 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:04.720 good and what talking about? To read one of the 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.600 masters in red? I know, but we ain't talking about him. 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.520 What you said your unwritten rule? Then I'm just talking 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.400 about you know. I was like, I mean, like there's 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.880 certain things you're like, no, bro, you can't do that 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:23.439 right right right? Red and black? The thing uh I 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.160 would say would be people say, don't wear white belts. 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:30.760 I'm wearing a white belt. Why I still first heard 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.399 that one. Yeah, people are like white belts and some 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.400 golferd thing. I see it on Twitter all the time. 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.200 So I wear the white belt. I'm wearing a damn 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:38.800 white belt. If I want to wear a white belt. 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.840 What about guys that have guys because I've seen it 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.239 in tennis, like you see it Australian Open and all 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:49.440