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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this special edition of The Drive. I

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Speaker 1: am Dale Lalli. He is Matt Williamson and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: just wrapping up Ota practice number five here at the

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Speaker 1: upmc rooney Sports Complex. You were listening live on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy beautiful day here and

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Speaker 1: really was yeah, we should be joined here presently by

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Speaker 1: ste new Steelers guard Isaac Samalu and just watching him

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Speaker 1: out here, Matt, he moves really well.

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Speaker 2: He's really impressive. And I don't mean to sound stereotypical,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of the Polynesian guys are really thickly

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Speaker 2: built with huge calves, and you think of them as

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Speaker 2: just earth movers maulers, and he does that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. He pushes people around, but he's

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Speaker 2: lean and long in the torso with some arm length

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Speaker 2: to him. I don't think this is in the plans

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Speaker 2: at all, but in a Fanica like manner, I think

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Speaker 2: you could throw him attack and he wouldn't embarrass himself.

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Speaker 2: And I know he could play center, and he's a

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Speaker 2: better pass blocker than he is a run blocker, and

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Speaker 2: he's a really good run blocker. His body type is impressive.

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Speaker 2: Those where it's going with it, you know, and you

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Speaker 2: heard the things that Kelsey said about him, Jason Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask him about Kelsey, Yeah, in Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: talked about him as the smartest player he's ever been around.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you his background is very impressive. He's

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Speaker 2: got a lot of a lot of family members who

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Speaker 2: are college professors and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: Nature. His brother was a computer science major. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the kind of family that this guy comes from,

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Speaker 1: you know, just very bright guys. And his dad's a

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Speaker 1: football coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And I paid attention to him in

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Speaker 2: free agency. I thought he'd be pricier than he was,

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Speaker 2: you know, after signing her big, I didn't. I thought

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Speaker 2: the guard market was probably closed here, so I kind

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Speaker 2: of was out of sight, out of mind. And then boy,

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Speaker 2: it comes across my phone Steel so sign in Isaac

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, wow, I'm really gonna dig to him.

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Speaker 2: And it was more impressive than I initially thought, you know.

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Speaker 2: And again the intellectual stuff. Even before Kelsey came out

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Speaker 2: and said that, I read a lot of things saying

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Speaker 2: this is one of the smartest linemen out there and

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Speaker 2: really technically sound and with all respect to Kevin Dotson,

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Speaker 2: the inconsistency at guard makes guys crazy. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're a little inconsistent at receiver or you're making big

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Speaker 2: plays or even tackle, but guards need to be every snap.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's got to be you can count on.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that I think is Kevin's biggest problem without

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Speaker 2: a doctor.

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Speaker 1: And I think the talent is there, right.

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Speaker 2: And there's some mental wears from time to time that

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Speaker 2: might make Dan Moore or Cole look worse because he

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Speaker 2: didn't do exactly his assignment. Well those are done, I mean,

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Speaker 2: and now it's going to become a strength where it

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Speaker 2: was a weakness, just from a mental side of things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: things that Steelers are counting on here.

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Speaker 2: And at some point Isaac's it's gonna line up next

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Speaker 2: to Jones. Maybe it's later than sooner, but what a

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Speaker 2: great guy for a young first round left tackle to

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Speaker 2: line up shoulder and shoulder. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers, particularly the interior offensive line, goes from being

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Speaker 1: something that a couple of years ago was like, oh

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Speaker 1: well this is pretty it's together a little bit, it's

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Speaker 1: well below average too. Now it might be you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the better interior threesomes in the league.

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Speaker 2: I think they're in the conversation for best guard pairing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean they're in the conversation. Yeah, there's probably three

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Speaker 2: my head. I mean that are really really good. But

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Speaker 2: this might be number one. And I don't think Cole's

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Speaker 2: a liability, but I don't think he's top ten center either. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But what I think they have, though, is three guys

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Speaker 1: And that when you have three of those, and.

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Speaker 2: I think they probably have five that can play at

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Speaker 1: So it's it's really uh, you know, times changed. The

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Speaker 1: complete makeover of that offensive line in two years two years.

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Speaker 2: That's hard to do.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to do when you're paying quarterback as well. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now they are not, and so you can go out

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Speaker 1: and you can make you know, again, I don't know

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Speaker 2: Or for Jones to get to them, or you'd be

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Speaker 2: within striking distance in the first round. And yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 2: not overwhelming. But then the opportunity arises for it to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and you know, why wouldn't you do that?

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Speaker 1: You know again, and it speaks volumes that guys do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what you said there though, about a

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Speaker 2: two year total facelift of one of the hardest positions

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs were able to basically pull it off in

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Speaker 2: they didn't make a lot of moves to make that happen,

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Speaker 2: and they spent tons of money to do it, and

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Speaker 2: it's that's a hard thing to do. I mean, to

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Speaker 1: And they and they did it without breaking the bank,

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Speaker 1: right right, right right, that's the other thing. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Joe Thuni was the highest paid Garden.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just flat out purchased him. He was

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Speaker 2: the most expensive guy out there and they got their

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Speaker 2: money's worth. No, don't get me wrong. Orlando Brown was

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Speaker 2: expensive cost my first round pick, you know, and then

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Speaker 2: they paid him and then they paid him and you're right,

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Speaker 2: right right, And they hit on Humphrey and they hit

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Speaker 2: on a mid round guard that worked out well for them.

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Speaker 2: So that's rare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt, the Steelers are doing is rare.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, someone just threw it out on Twitter and

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Speaker 2: I've known this, but it's also kind of amazing that

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Speaker 2: Isaac is going to be the oldest starter on the offense,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean they're still so young on that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in his prime. The offensive lineman's still out

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Speaker 1: we'll get him when he's coming off the field taking

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Speaker 1: when you when you see these guys putting in that

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Speaker 1: out trucks of corps for us here. I think he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny too, you know, we were I

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Speaker 2: was chatting with Wolf last week and you know, unsolicited,

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Speaker 2: He's like, boy, Damn Moore looks so much better. He's

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Speaker 2: just raving about Damn. Yeah, and I totally get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's another one with the Wallace conversation. Out

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Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind. They drafted past him, don't

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Speaker 2: count him out. I mean, these guys get better. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying these you know, Anthony Munyos. But if

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Speaker 1: I mean again, we've talked about this. Just the addition

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you whether that's that was always in

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Speaker 1: the communications stability there, the communication from center out, yeah,

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Speaker 1: created that on the right side last year with Chukes

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Speaker 1: I'm not say it's the best right side in the league,

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Speaker 2: And and if you could get the left side to

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Speaker 2: that level and probably better. I mean, if Jones and

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Speaker 2: that could be the best left side in the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean it could be.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the job Pat Myers Dohm

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought him up because I think he's

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Speaker 2: an underappreciated asset to this team as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think everyone lumps the O line coaches post Munch

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Speaker 2: and none of them are as good as much, you know,

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Speaker 2: and that's probably true because he's like as good as

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Speaker 2: nobody tends to give him credit either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's well respected.

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Speaker 1: We ran into him at the Combine well, we were

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Speaker 1: having dinner. Yeah, he was hanging with a bunch of

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Speaker 2: A lot of beef in that room, right, A lot

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Speaker 2: of scratching and sniffing and snorting and yeah, drinking and

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Speaker 2: hanging out. The line coaches are fun to be near,

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Speaker 2: even right, Like I heard a buffalo now, But I

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Speaker 2: think they found a really good one there. And frankly,

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Speaker 2: in between Munch and him, there's was questionable. It was

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Speaker 2: I think that they've stabilized that. And I've said this

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Speaker 2: a million times. If I was a new head coach

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Speaker 2: getting hired, or an owner or someone in charge of

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Speaker 2: an organization, I would hire my head coach and then

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Speaker 2: I'd say, I'll spend whatever you want for the best

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Speaker 2: O line coach I can get. I mean, that's more

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Speaker 2: of a priority to me than a coordinator or a

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Speaker 2: play caller. I mean, I just think developing that position

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Speaker 2: is so hard at this level.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that position and special teams coordinator is

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Speaker 1: an underrated, underrated like special teams coordinators, got it, you're

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Speaker 1: just putting on fire. I mean, right, you're juggling my

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Speaker 1: eight balls. Yeah at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I would like to bring

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Speaker 2: this up a special teams cortinators that d and offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinators never deal with. But like, hey, we cut your starter.

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Speaker 2: That dude was a starter on.

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Speaker 1: Four even our number forty. He was our fifth safety

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Speaker 2: That roster spot. But he was a starter for me.

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Speaker 1: It wash, you know you just cut them.

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Speaker 2: You don't start cut my starting left guard, start my

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Speaker 2: cut my starting strong safety. I mean that that's what

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Speaker 2: special teams coordinators have to do with in week five and.

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Speaker 1: Go through the week, and and this guy's sick, and

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Speaker 1: that now you have. It has a trickle down effect

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Speaker 2: And you probably five different teams for me, I'm five

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Speaker 2: That's a common theme of this team last week or two.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale, Lallie. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: from the upmc rooney Sports Complex where Steelers just wrapping

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Speaker 2: I'm sure to some degree, and you watch them going in,

434
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Speaker 2: but when you know they're now in your division that

435
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Speaker 2: everybody has a tell. I mean, everybody has the Teddy

436
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Speaker 2: kgb oreo, you know to some degree. You know, like

437
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Speaker 2: when when he aligns this way, he's probably blocking, or

438
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Speaker 2: he's gonna go through the motions, you know, but whenever

439
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Speaker 2: he has this little twitch, ball might be coming his

440
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Speaker 2: way or yeah he's going he's taking it deep. You know,

441
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Speaker 2: everybody's tendencies.

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Speaker 1: I can remember in fact, you know, when I back

443
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Speaker 1: when I did the Antonio Brown Show, there was a

444
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Speaker 1: somebody put out there that you know, on on social

445
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Speaker 1: media that whenever Brown would retighten his gloves at the

446
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, it was a pass play.

447
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and that stuff's real.

448
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 1: I brought that up to him. So there's there's a

449
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Speaker 1: theory out there that you know, whenever you tighten your

450
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Speaker 1: gloves at the line of scrimmage, it's going to be

451
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Speaker 1: a pass and when you don't, it's going to be

452
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Speaker 1: a run play. And you know, I think he looked

453
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Speaker 1: at that and he started tightening his gloves. Every time.

454
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Speaker 1: It's the same thing I tell, you know, I tell

455
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Speaker 1: young pitchers like, if I'm going to throw a curveball,

456
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Speaker 1: I don't want to tell the batter I'm throwing a curveball.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I don't want to. You know, I'm not.

458
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Speaker 1: Going to play with the ball if you're gonna play

459
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Speaker 1: with if you have to play with the ball on

460
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Speaker 1: your glove when you're throwing a curveball, play with the

461
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Speaker 1: ball in your glove every time. Do it every single time.

462
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Speaker 2: It's like Jim Brown rest in peace. You know, he

463
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Speaker 2: would protect He would get up super slow every time.

464
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Speaker 2: So it didn't look every time. So when didn't when

465
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Speaker 2: he was injured. And the book on Jerry Rice was

466
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Speaker 2: the Guy's got no hotels. Every route looks exactly the same, yea,

467
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Speaker 2: His stem is always the same, his release is always

468
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Speaker 2: the same. People talk about what makes a great route runner.

469
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big part of it is not

470
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Speaker 2: giving things away so blatantly.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw somebody puts out the top ten route

472
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Speaker 1: runners in the NFL. Yet last than on social media,

473
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Speaker 1: I saw that Deontay Johnson was on that list.

474
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Speaker 2: I'll say he should be.

475
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Speaker 1: I think that's an underrated like so many, so many

476
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Speaker 1: people look at well, he's he's six too, and he

477
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Speaker 1: runs a four three forty and he does this?

478
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Speaker 2: Does he run routes right? And Frankly pickens he's a

479
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: work on it? Yeah, I mean he has he doesn't

480
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Speaker 2: have a very he doesn't have a real expansive route

481
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 2: tree yet, you know, and he didn't at Georgia, so

482
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Speaker 2: he needs work in that regard. But the guy next

483
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Speaker 2: to him is one of the best in the league

484
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Speaker 2: at it, yeah, Frankly.

485
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Speaker 1: And that doesn't that doesn't come by accident either. Note

486
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Speaker 1: Johnson works at that absolutely, you know, because he's not

487
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Speaker 1: the biggest, he's not the strongest, he's not the fastest.

488
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Speaker 1: So you better have something else that you can win with,

489
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: and for him, it's the route running.

490
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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams might be the best route runner in the league.

491
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Speaker 2: I mean he's certainly, he's like a four or six guy,

492
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Speaker 2: and he was a second round pick. Yeah, he's not

493
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Speaker 2: special athletically, sure, he's good. I mean he I mean

494
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Speaker 2: he has talent, of course he does. But he wasn't

495
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Speaker 2: a tap. He wasn't Jamar Chase, you know. I mean,

496
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: he wasn't a no brainer top ten pick, you know.

497
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Speaker 2: And that was that came from work.

498
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Speaker 1: And route running.

499
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Speaker 2: Deonta is the third round.

500
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Speaker 1: Route running allows you to get behind secondaries. You know,

501
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Speaker 1: you you don't have to be a four to three

502
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Speaker 1: guy to get behind the secondary if you run, if

503
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Speaker 1: you run routes, well yeah you can. You know, all

504
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: takes his one false step from the cornerback, right right.

505
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Speaker 2: I mean it's not like you run a five flat yeah, right.

506
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: Difference yeah, you can still run.

507
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the difference between a four five five and a

508
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Speaker 2: four to four flat isn't that much in the course

509
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: of a football play if the defensive back has one

510
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: false step or is leaning the wrong way. Stefan Diggs

511
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Speaker 2: is a fourth round pick. He's an elite route runner.

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was number one on that list.

513
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Speaker 1: And he you know, he's a four to five low

514
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: four five guy. He's a good athlete, but he's not special.

515
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: What you see him behind a lot of defenses.

516
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely yeah, And that's absolutely a learned skill.

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're still waiting here for Isaac sam all

518
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Speaker 1: Ow to come out.

519
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: No promises at this point.

520
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are off the field here. He outlasted the

521
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Speaker 1: Steelers pr.

522
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: He was putting the work in.

523
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Speaker 1: He was putting the work in, and well the field

524
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: is now clear, so that part of the day is well, no,

525
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Speaker 1: there's still there's still one guy out there, so there

526
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Speaker 1: is getting there extra time. And we're still out here,

527
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: and so we'll keep bringing you all the news and

528
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: notes here from the Steelers. O t A sessions here

529
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Speaker 1: o t A session number five in the books. That

530
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Speaker 1: means we are way, of course, yeah, halfway to UH

531
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Speaker 1: to mini camp. Yeah, good point, and then officially halftime, yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: and then past we'll go to UH, we'll go on

533
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Speaker 1: to training camp.

534
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Speaker 2: And it's been a great environment. It's been fun to

535
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Speaker 2: be here.

536
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Speaker 1: I wonder you know, so last year training camp was

537
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Speaker 1: the first year that had been opened in a couple

538
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Speaker 1: of years, because right, do you expect training camp to

539
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: be a little more robust this year, Not that it

540
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Speaker 1: was bad last year.

541
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Speaker 2: I think more back to what you think is normal,

542
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Speaker 2: I would imagine. I mean that's more of a question

543
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 2: for you than me to be honest, but I would

544
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Speaker 2: think that's true.

545
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Speaker 1: I just I was just thinking about that, like, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: because last year, I mean, it was everything. You were back,

547
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Speaker 1: but you weren't back back.

548
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Speaker 2: There were still some restrictions, Yeah, I mean and effected.

549
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Speaker 1: Now the CDC has lifted the you know, apparently COVID

550
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Speaker 1: is no longer the epidemic that it was or the

551
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Speaker 1: pandemic that it was. That's that's behind us.

552
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Speaker 2: You know.

553
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Speaker 1: I had a doctor's appointment a couple of weeks ago

554
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Speaker 1: and I didn't have to wear a mask, even the

555
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Speaker 1: doctor's office, which was, you know, different than it's been

556
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Speaker 1: for the last three years.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so we're we're we're.

558
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Speaker 1: Out of that portion of this and and you know.

559
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Speaker 2: I would think it gets back to being good old

560
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Speaker 2: Saint Vincent.

561
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Speaker 1: Does the NFL adjusts to that as well? Now, you know,

562
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Speaker 1: are are the COVID restrictions that were are not just

563
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: the restrictions, but the accommodations that the league made for COVID.

564
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: Some of them they've kept, like the.

565
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Speaker 2: Extra two things came out of it, the extra two.

566
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Speaker 1: Guys on game day and things of that nature.

567
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: They tried to get expanded practice squads things like that.

568
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Speaker 2: I think the teams started scouting differently. Hey we can

569
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Speaker 2: do some of this vida zoom. We really need to

570
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: send these guys on planes all over the country, not

571
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Speaker 2: even for help. Were we want to sit down and

572
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Speaker 2: talk to the guys. Yeah, you do that on a

573
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Speaker 2: video expense. Save some expenses, save a lot of time.

574
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's changed coaching to some degree. I'm sure

575
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Speaker 2: the players. My wife is couldn't be any further from

576
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: a football player, but she gets so much more done

577
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: at home than getting on the tee, going downtown, going

578
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Speaker 2: to the bank, and coming back, you know what I mean.

579
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Speaker 2: So I'm sure that's true for players too. We were

580
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Speaker 2: talking about grinding tape. Could probably do it from home,

581
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, with today's technology, and you could just FaceTime

582
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Speaker 2: your coach and be like, hey, what's this all about?

583
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Speaker 1: You know, I mean that's what the that's what they

584
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Speaker 1: did during COVID. They had to do that, and so

585
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, you had guys everybody learning.

586
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some good things come out of it, you know.

587
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean, any crisis or bad thing that's happened in

588
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Speaker 2: the history of the world, something good came from it

589
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Speaker 2: because people adapted.

590
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Speaker 1: You know.

591
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

592
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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's much like you know, the there's

593
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Speaker 1: always any time there's there, you know, you take a

594
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Speaker 1: step in a different direction. There are pluses and minuses

595
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: that come out of it. For example, you know, Tang

596
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Speaker 1: came out of the you know, space space exploration velcrow.

597
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: You know things like that.

598
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Speaker 1: You didn't get You didn't start the space program to

599
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: come up with velf right right, right, But it was,

600
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Speaker 1: you know, a bike.

601
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: We could use this for something else.

602
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: It was a byproduct of space travel.

603
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I do think the NFL has gone through

604
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Speaker 2: some of that too, and I'm sure all sports have.

605
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: You know that we were forced to not and Tang

606
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: was a bad example other worse that popped into my head.

607
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: But I do think, certainly the NFL and football coaches

608
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Speaker 2: across the league, or such creature as a habit or

609
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: across the whole sport, this is just.

610
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Speaker 1: The way we've always do. We've always you couldn't do

611
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: it that way, right right.

612
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: We don't want to hear about analytics. This is what

613
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: we do. You know, you have to have two days

614
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But when you're forced to change, you

615
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: realize we might be behind. If we don't adapt like

616
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Speaker 2: the teams that are starting to win, you know, and

617
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Speaker 2: understand where they're at.

618
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I do think that there are, you know,

619
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Speaker 1: many good things that came out of COVID.

620
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Speaker 2: Being forced to do things differently.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've seen it. It's just in the general

622
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Speaker 1: work world, you know, there are a lot of people

623
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Speaker 1: that don't go back right to the office on a

624
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Speaker 1: full time basis. Maybe they go in two days a

625
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Speaker 1: week instead of five.

626
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Speaker 2: That's where my wife's at now, and she thinks those

627
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Speaker 2: are at least productive days because she's busy, you know,

628
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Speaker 2: not doing work while she's transporting back and forth.

629
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but these sessions still very important.

630
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Speaker 2: I think they are. I think there's a lot to

631
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Speaker 2: take out of them. I think that there's a lot

632
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: of learning going on on the field. Certainly when you

633
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: read headlines across the league, there's a lot of overreactions.

634
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Speaker 2: This first round pick isn't running with the one blah

635
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. I mean, I don't look too

636
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: much into that stuff, but I think it makes you

637
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: a better player and teaches you how to be a pro.

638
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think, you know, again, so many new

639
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: faces on the Steelers roster this year. Yeah, these OTA

640
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: sessions are doubly important, and I think that's why. For example,

641
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: last year, if you remember, they didn't they could have

642
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: had three more sessions, right right, and they didn't. They

643
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: chose not to.

644
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: I mean just think of the stash sessions right right, right,

645
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: good point. I mean this they called the much different

646
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation was one year ago when we were here,

647
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: and now it's a lot more set and a lot

648
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: of groundwork, especially on offense, was poored last year. Yeah,

649
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of that youth.

650
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: And you know, so they you know, Kenny Pickett talked

651
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Speaker 1: about it on his first day here. He's like, we're

652
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Speaker 1: so I'm so much farther ahead of where I was

653
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Speaker 1: as an offense. We're so much farther ahead of where

654
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Speaker 1: we were.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know.

656
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Speaker 1: The foundation has been poored.

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now Alan Robinson and Isaac and Herbig and.

658
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: These guys, they gotta get on a moving train.

659
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but those veterans shouldn't have any problem. You know,

660
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Speaker 2: they'll be tough for the rookies, as it is every rookie.

661
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: You know, that's not a common problem or that's not

662
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: uncommon problem across the league. You know, the Washington's of

663
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Speaker 2: the world are gonna have to learn.

664
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what they're here for. That's why we

665
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Speaker 1: have these sessions, these Ota sessions. Then he used to

666
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Speaker 1: have this stuff. No, right, you know, twenty years ago

667
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: there was no such thing as an OTA.

668
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I think they're good.

669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so as well. But we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: another break. He is already Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

671
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Speaker 1: You're listening to a special edition of The Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We will be back with more

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Speaker 1: here live from the Steelers Ota Sessions at the upmc

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Speaker 1: rooney Sports Complex on ESPN nine seventy and Steelers Nation

675
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Speaker 1: Radio right after this. Welcome back. I am Dale, Lollie.

676
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson, and this is a special edition

677
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Speaker 1: of The Drive here on Dealers Nation Radio. And we

678
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Speaker 1: have a special guest. You're joining us now. That would

679
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Speaker 1: be one Thomas of the Standard. What's going on? Not

680
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Speaker 1: quite the guests you guys are looking for, but I figured.

681
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Speaker 3: And why not it's gonna happen. It's kind of like

682
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: in baseball. I don't want to call myself the closer

683
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: coming in. It's kind of like when the position player

684
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: comes in and you're already down by forty.

685
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: Round strang mile power over the plate exactly. But you

686
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Speaker 1: were out here today, Tommy, you got chances to see

687
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Speaker 1: the OTA practices. What were you What were your impressions.

688
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Speaker 3: First time, you know, seeing guys in person. I know

689
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: we can't really talk in a lot of detail, but

690
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: they're big. Man, this is a bigger team than that

691
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: was last year. I think that's for sure. You know,

692
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: Washington is overwhelming. The offensive linemen are overwhelming. Jones, Dan

693
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: Moore looks much bigger than he was. Their mantra seemed

694
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: to be, let's get physical, let's get nasty.

695
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Speaker 2: You know.

696
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: Andy Widel comes in. He's kind of cut from that cloth.

697
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Speaker 3: And you can't tell how it's gonna end up and

698
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: till they play games, But right now it looks like

699
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: it's on the right track.

700
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a continuation kind of of how they finished

701
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Speaker 1: last season when they were just pounding people with the

702
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage right right.

703
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Speaker 2: You know, I think their intentions at all.

704
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Speaker 1: No, they might as well put it up on the

705
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Speaker 1: on the big you know, scoreboard. Hey, we're going to

706
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: run the football.

707
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be physical, good to your blimp go by

708
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: carrying a banner, right, and not only they not a

709
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: lot of fat guys either. You know, there are a

710
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Speaker 2: lot of really lean, powerful players with length to long

711
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Speaker 2: arm guys, especially at corner. You know some of these dudes,

712
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Speaker 2: I mean, even like Alan Robinson's impressive on the hoof.

713
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Speaker 2: You know, everybody looks the part and then it's a good start.

714
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just mentioned the secondary. I think that

715
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Speaker 3: might be the unit that I'm the highest on right

716
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Speaker 3: now the offseason. Yeah, I know, you lose some and

717
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: you lose mull At, you lose Edmonds in that secondary,

718
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: but I think they're a better secondary right now, at

719
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Speaker 3: least on paper. Excited to see Porter and Peterson on

720
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: the outside if that's like where they end up. But

721
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Speaker 3: I think you just got so many options. You guys

722
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Speaker 3: are talking about Levi in the first out, Yeah, I

723
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: think that might be a less is more kind of guy.

724
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: Like the more that you can wean him off of

725
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: a big time role, you're gonna get more production out

726
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: of him. Always thought he was a really good number

727
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: two in Buffalo next to Davis White. It's a little

728
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: bit older now, but you're not asking him to be

729
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: anything more than a three right now. Maybe he does

730
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Speaker 3: become a two, damn, thank you said, but he doesn't

731
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: have there was never really like that number one.

732
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Speaker 1: Last year. They didn't have that yet.

733
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Speaker 3: And he kind of had to try to do it

734
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: and Kello had to kind of try to do it,

735
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Speaker 3: but no one could. Now he just has to kind

736
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Speaker 3: of be the number two at the most. Yeah, I

737
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Speaker 3: think it's perfect for him.

738
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Speaker 1: The guy that I'm interested in that secondary is Chandon Sullivan.

739
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Speaker 1: And I'll go back to twenty fourteen when they signed

740
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Speaker 1: Bryce McCain from the Houston Texans and people went, oh

741
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: my god, that Pro Football Focus had him as the

742
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: lowest rated cornerback in the NFL. And then at the

743
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Speaker 1: end of the season when he left to go to

744
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins because they signed him to a one

745
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: year deal, what are they going to do without Bryce McCain.

746
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: I got he had such a good year. He was

747
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: their best cornerback this year, made.

748
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Speaker 2: Good money on the open market, and right right right,

749
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Speaker 2: you know, you don't know what the cornerbacks and we

750
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Speaker 2: do actually kind of know what the cornerbacks were asked

751
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Speaker 2: to do.

752
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Speaker 1: Last year in Minnesota, and that was play pretty vanilla.

753
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah zones, yeah, blitz and there was no blitz. There

754
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: was no pass rush. They had like thirty two sacks.

755
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Speaker 1: You know, they're just they just didn't have any kind

756
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: of of help there defensively. And so you know, if

757
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna if you're gonna play a lot of zone coverages,

758
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Speaker 1: particularly if you're the slot guy and you're and they're

759
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: playing a lot of zone, you're gonna give up catches.

760
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's just.

761
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Speaker 2: Without much pass rushing, what's to help you? It was

762
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Speaker 2: not not an easy situation for the defensive backfield.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what when Peterson sat down with you last week,

764
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Speaker 3: that's kind of what he said.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, trash the vikings.

766
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Speaker 3: But he was just saying, you know, you can tell

767
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Speaker 3: this is a step up a little bit just from

768
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Speaker 3: a couple of days being out here.

769
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Speaker 2: I think I asked him how I knew the answer,

770
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Speaker 2: but I wanted to say, how different is this scheme

771
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Speaker 2: and coverage responsibilities that verse last one? He's like, very different?

772
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Speaker 2: I mean then to sum it up, very different, right right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, So I'm interested to see how he figures

774
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Speaker 1: into the equation because he's been he's been a starting nickel,

775
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: not just in Minnesota last year, but in Green Bay

776
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Speaker 1: before that.

777
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Speaker 2: And those guys aren't household names. Going back to bricemthe

778
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: oh no, you know ste go, Oh my god, you

779
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: sign Channing Sullivan who had never heard of you know.

780
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Speaker 2: I mean, but that doesn't mean they aren't having quality careers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to me, that's a that's a And

782
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Speaker 1: this is not to trash Arthur Malep. That's an upgrade

783
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Speaker 1: over Arthur Malett.

784
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Speaker 2: I think so too, you know.

785
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Speaker 1: And if he can be a combination of Sutton and Malet,

786
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: because that's what they've had to do the last couple

787
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: of years, even when they had Mike Hilton early in

788
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the in his tenure, situational it was situational nickel. If

789
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: you could just have a nickel and he is your

790
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: nickel and that's what he does, okay.

791
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you tell the offense less. Yeah, you know,

792
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: if that's.

793
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Speaker 1: Or if you can play more dime because of that,

794
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Speaker 1: because we're gonna bump Patrick Peterson into the slot and

795
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Speaker 1: then I'm playing Porter and Wallace on the outside because

796
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: you've got you've got different options at defensive back. Okay,

797
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: that works too.

798
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Speaker 2: So change gears on you, Tom, will we have you

799
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Speaker 2: here in the last few minutes. You're a huge pit guy.

800
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Speaker 2: Pitt's next door.

801
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Speaker 1: That's right.

802
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Speaker 2: Kenny's second year. What are you expecting from him the

803
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: year two?

804
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to take some monstrous leap, yeah,

805
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: you know, and I don't ever think he's going to

806
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: get to the Burrows or the Mahomes level. But I

807
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: really don't think he has to at all to win.

808
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Ben Roethlisberger was never the greatest quarterback in

809
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: the NFL. He was always around Brady and Manning. Those

810
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: two were much better than him. He's snuck two rings

811
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: out from underneath those guys. Like, if the team is

812
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: right around him and he is good enough, I think

813
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: you can win with that guy. I just don't know

814
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Speaker 3: if it's going to happen quite this year. I think

815
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: maybe a competitions way. Yeah, but I think that what

816
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: the rookie year showed is that it's not too big

817
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: for him the league and he's ready to be a

818
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: starting quarterback in the NFL. It's not like a is

819
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: he even a starter? And no, he's one of the

820
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: thirty two best quarterbacks that there are.

821
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Speaker 2: So I think that's step one for any rookie.

822
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: And I expect him to be better this year.

823
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 3: Not quite to the level where, you know, maybe he's

824
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: the sole reason he's winning you six seven games, but

825
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: I just feel like the improvement's inevitable. You saw the

826
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: improvement all of last season. Too many interceptions in the

827
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: first half of the season. Yeah, barely any in the

828
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: second half of the season. That's coachability, that's improving, it's

829
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: playing smarter. I think it's going to continue to carry

830
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: on that momentum. And like the size he's put on too,

831
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it's got to protect himself a little

832
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: bit more. The concussions are the thing that worries me

833
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: a little bit. But offensive line looks better. They fixed

834
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: this helmet last year. You know, they're proactively trying to

835
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: attack this to make sure that it doesn't become a

836
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: problem like maybe down in Miami it is. So I'm

837
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 3: very confident in him not regressing at all, taking steps forward.

838
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 3: I just don't I question how big the lead might

839
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: be this year, but it shouldn't be a monstrous I

840
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: don't think in a second year.

841
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Speaker 2: Mean no, I don't expect to be the best quarter league.

842
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right now. If he throws between twenty and

843
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: twenty five touchdown I think that's year. More importantly, doesn't

844
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: get to double digits and interceptions. I think that's a

845
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: huge step forward. I think if it's reasonable, I think

846
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: if you play the entire season and let's say he

847
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: throws twenty two touchdown passes the red zone, that's a

848
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: modest improvement. But but throws seven or eight interceptions, I

849
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: think that's a really good second year.

850
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: And a pit He was never, you know, adverse for

851
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: making a risky throw, putting the ball down the field,

852
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 3: being explosive. So I think you see a lot more

853
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 3: of that in his second year as well. In the NFL,

854
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: you have the leash on a little tight sometimes with

855
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: a rookie. I don't think, no, no, there was nothing

856
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: about especially the senior year. There was nothing conservative about

857
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: his play.

858
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing that you look at

859
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: with with Kenny Pickett guys are the how he played

860
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, down the stretching games. He did

861
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: win some game. He did win you some games. And

862
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: so if he can do it, if your defense and

863
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: your running game can keep you in the game. He

864
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: has shown that he can win you the game when

865
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: it's on the line, and that's something that you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any there's no formula for clutch.

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Speaker 1: There's no you know, analysis for clutch. There's no there's

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Speaker 1: nothing out there that says, well, you know this guy

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Speaker 1: when you know when the game's on the line, is

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Speaker 1: this You know he's the six sixth best player when

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Speaker 1: the game is on the line. Because each you know,

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00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: game situation is different, so you get to trust your

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Speaker 1: eyes on that and when the game was on the

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00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: line more often than not, I mean that, you know.

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Speaker 1: The only time that he didn't was in Miami, and

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Speaker 1: I think he learned from what happened in Miami.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like he was doing it against the Texans, right,

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Speaker 3: And I remember in that game on the TV broadcast,

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Speaker 3: they flashed up a graphic before the drive saying like

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Speaker 3: Ravens have not given up a fourth quarter touchdown driving

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Speaker 3: around of quarters and those ninety eight yards on the

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Speaker 3: field and puts him in the en zone and wins

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Speaker 3: the game like that absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And then had nothing to do with him missing Lamar.

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Speaker 1: That was that.

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Speaker 3: Was the defense as a playoff level defense that he

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Speaker 3: went up against and drove right down the field. So that,

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Speaker 3: I think alone is where you get the confidence that

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00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: this dude is cut out for this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: This dude's not overwhelmed by the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I say this about eighty percent of the rookie starting quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: But the two areas that he really struggled were between

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Speaker 2: ten and twenty yards and in the red zone. Well

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Speaker 2: you go get Alan Robinson who's a big red zone

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Speaker 2: guy and operating out of slot on in breaking routes

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Speaker 2: between ten and twenty yards. Washington, who knows what you'll

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Speaker 2: get out of him as a rookie year, but he's

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Speaker 2: sure profiles as a middle of the field player down

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Speaker 2: the field as well as red zone. And there's some

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Speaker 2: other examples. So they're going to add things to make

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Speaker 2: his weakness his strengths, and I think they did a

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Speaker 2: good job with that.

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Speaker 3: And I'm still you know, I know he had no

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Speaker 3: touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 1: He's a really good receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know a lot of people like to picket

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Speaker 3: to pickens kind of thing, and maybe that will be

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Speaker 3: the one and that could develop too, But I just

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Speaker 3: think Deante's going to be Kenny's best friend this season. Yeh,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how he wouldn't be any quarterbacks best friend.

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Speaker 1: He's always open, He's always open. There's a reason why

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger loved them. He threw him one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty five passes every year. Yeah, ye, no choice, he's open,

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Speaker 1: so you throw it to the open guy. Tom. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you stopping by here. That no problem. I'll be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, maybe we'll do a session with you then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do that again. But our guest here has

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Speaker 1: been Tom Offerman. You can hear him on these very

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Speaker 1: airwaves on The Standard, which he does very fine job on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta check that show out. You can also listen

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Speaker 1: to us.

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Speaker 2: You can find the Standard everywhere. You can find the

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Speaker 2: Drive right.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, absolutely so. Lots of great comment comments and

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Speaker 1: lots of great programming on Steelers Nation Radio. But that

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Speaker 1: is going to do it for us today here from

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Speaker 1: the up mc rooney Sports Complex, as the Steelers just

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Speaker 1: wrapped up Ota session number five. Unfortunately we missed out

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Speaker 1: on Isaac Samalo. Hopefully maybe we'll get him tomorrow. You

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Speaker 1: have to keep somebody. We'll get somebody. We're getting somebody tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That's I can guarantee you that because I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ensure that we do that. But that's going to do

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Speaker 1: it for our show today. So for my partner Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson for CJ here on site keeping us on in

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Speaker 1: the air, I am Dale Lallie. We thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening to this special edition of The Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio.