Speaker 1: Hey, folks, lyle here for today's episode. I am not
Speaker 1: in my normal studio. I recorded this one in the
Speaker 1: middle of Washington Square Park in New York City, and
Speaker 1: instead of taking phone calls, I talked to people face
Speaker 1: to face like they used to do in ancient times.
Speaker 1: I just got to say that of all the real
Speaker 1: life street interview episodes I've done, this one is probably
Speaker 1: my favorite. Everyone came with something interesting to say about themselves,
Speaker 1: and the more I do these, the more I'm really
Speaker 1: amazed at how many great stories there are out there,
Speaker 1: just in all these random people walking by. It really
Speaker 1: did blow me away. And I'm gonna shut up because
Speaker 1: I hate intros, and I hope you enjoy the episode. Hello,
Speaker 1: I am here in New York City at Washington Square Park.
Speaker 1: It is a beautiful energy. There's people running all around.
Speaker 1: We're sweating on each other, spitting on each other, soaking
Speaker 1: up each other's juices, each other's energies. It's a wonderful scene.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's Woodstock here all the time, and
Speaker 1: I love it. I love Washington Square Park. I'm stoked
Speaker 1: to be here, and uh, I'm ready to talk to
Speaker 1: some people. So let's get into it and uh do
Speaker 1: some do some get going then step into my office.
Speaker 1: The pleasure to have you here, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day out here out of Washington Square Park,
Speaker 2: New York City.
Speaker 1: Way outside, it's icy school in the cut. It's nice
Speaker 1: in here. It's like a Thursday morning and it's like
Speaker 1: lit here. It's it feels like it's like a music
Speaker 1: festival here every day or something. Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: there's always some interesting going on in this plug. You
Speaker 1: feel me. You gonna be interesting people every single day.
Speaker 1: You just is just it's an unpredictable environment, but in
Speaker 1: a in a good way. You feel me. It's like
Speaker 1: you want to be here, you want to see what
Speaker 1: was about to happen. What's your name? Man? My name
Speaker 1: is Scooby. Scooby. Very nice to meet, Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: What do you do you live around here? Do you
Speaker 1: come here often? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Of course I'm residing in the branch right now uptown,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I be coming up and coming out here
Speaker 2: for a little over a year and a half now
Speaker 2: out bread meeting new people, promoting my music, all party promotions,
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You make music? What what kinds of like themes do
Speaker 1: you make music about? Like what inspires the tunes I
Speaker 1: grew up.
Speaker 2: I grew up listening to rap, and my one of
Speaker 2: my biggest inspirations was definitely Mike my little rest in peace.
Speaker 1: You feel me? But I like missing it up.
Speaker 2: I like and incorporating a little bit of like grunge rock,
Speaker 2: that type of that type of shay into my rap music.
Speaker 1: And I like just making that. I like making it
Speaker 1: my own like that ReLit. That's awesome. It's Scooby. Like
Speaker 1: your your artist's name or do you have a name?
Speaker 2: My artist name is Icy Schoob Icy y Space s
Speaker 2: c o O B on my all platforms, Apple Music, SoundCloud, Spotify,
Speaker 2: how much.
Speaker 1: Check it out after this? So, Scooby, listen. I heard
Speaker 1: you before you wanted to come on. You were like
Speaker 1: talking with your friend over there, and you were like, Man,
Speaker 1: should I talk about this thing going on with this person?
Speaker 1: And you were like debating whether or not to talk
Speaker 1: about it? How do you feel? Do you want to?
Speaker 1: You don't have to, but you want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: So, so it's some little spicy shit going on, it
Speaker 2: ain't I'm gonna just keep it short and sweet, like
Speaker 2: I said, so long story, Shore, I ended up meeting
Speaker 2: this girl. She had some little bit of ex boyfriend problems.
Speaker 2: Whatever the cases me made me try to trust her.
Speaker 2: Whatever the case is.
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom, long story Shore.
Speaker 2: We had We had linked up one day, did a
Speaker 2: little song song, took a couple of videos, and then
Speaker 2: we sent some of those videos to her ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1: You you sent videos to her? She has she has
Speaker 1: told me to long story, whatever the cases.
Speaker 2: Me and her, we had a little falling out not
Speaker 2: too long ago, by like a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: and I went over to her quairidor pick up like
Speaker 2: some of my stuff that I had left, a couple
Speaker 2: of like little necklace, whatever the cases. And when she
Speaker 2: opens the door, her ex is in the apartment with her,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoaed on? So now I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna hold you. I'm not even mad
Speaker 2: because this nigga.
Speaker 1: Looks like a and you look like a thought.
Speaker 2: Because how you're going to take back the base that
Speaker 2: you saw her get fucked.
Speaker 1: By the next man? Damn? Were you like now when
Speaker 1: she so is her idea? You said she said the video?
Speaker 1: Let me ask yourself when when when she brought the
Speaker 1: idea up. Were you on board immediately or were you like,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That could maybe the first thing that popped up to
Speaker 2: my head was like, how are you gonna tell me
Speaker 2: you over this?
Speaker 1: Dude? But you want to do this?
Speaker 2: But also I don't give a fuck because I'm gonna
Speaker 2: fuck sure.
Speaker 1: Because it's it's an interesting thing, right because if if
Speaker 1: she were really over exactly what youldn't even want? You
Speaker 1: wouldn't want that that type of reaction. I don't.
Speaker 2: So, I mean I played my part, did what I did,
Speaker 2: and I still come out on top.
Speaker 1: Do you like filming yourself? I mean when I'm putting
Speaker 1: in that work, of course? Okay? Do you when when
Speaker 1: when the cameras on you, do you feel like an
Speaker 1: extra pressure to perform? And I know extra pressure because
Speaker 1: that's just what I do. Is just it's just me.
Speaker 1: I was just crashing.
Speaker 2: Okay, you were yourself on cameras, of course, because that's
Speaker 2: a natural shit to do.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So you're not seeing this girl anymore? How?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Well you you don't even catch me dead ne near
Speaker 1: her crib? And what is next for you and your
Speaker 1: dating life? For you meeting you said you're meeting all
Speaker 1: kinds of people, are you?
Speaker 2: I'm always meeting you people. I'm never I'm never afraid
Speaker 2: to put myself out there.
Speaker 4: You feel me?
Speaker 1: Onto the next chapter. It is what it is. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a fling over it.
Speaker 2: I ain't feeling no type of way about it, because,
Speaker 2: like I said, I still came out on top and
Speaker 2: they both cloked black clowns.
Speaker 1: Right now, So let me.
Speaker 5: Ask you this.
Speaker 1: Uh, you've been having all these flings, right, Is any
Speaker 1: part of you like looking for a wife, looking to
Speaker 1: settle down or are you just you know, having fun.
Speaker 2: You gotta understand, I'm young, I'm only twenty two years old.
Speaker 2: I'm about to be twenty three. I don't I ain't
Speaker 2: really looking for no life partners. Something solidified, Yo, if
Speaker 2: you fucking with me, if you're fucking with my bob
Speaker 2: and I'm fucking.
Speaker 1: With chores, and we just go from there and see
Speaker 1: see where blooms. Is there a type of how would
Speaker 1: you describe the vibe of the type of person that
Speaker 1: you get along with. I like people who are themselves,
Speaker 1: you feel me.
Speaker 2: I like people who don't act a certain way because
Speaker 2: they're with a different type of crowd, you feel me.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta be genuine with yourself, and you
Speaker 2: gotta be genuine with the people that you surround yourself with,
Speaker 2: because that's that's the kind of people that you're gonna attract.
Speaker 1: You feel me. Have you always been very much like
Speaker 1: comfortable being yourself? Of course?
Speaker 2: Of course, obviously growing up it was it was a
Speaker 2: little difficult to come to terms with like the type
Speaker 2: of person that I am. But like, as you get older,
Speaker 2: you just learn to grow into your mold and then
Speaker 2: you just pretty much just evolve into the person that.
Speaker 1: You need to become. You said that you felt like
Speaker 1: it was kind of difficult for you to come to
Speaker 1: terms with the type of person you am you are
Speaker 1: just now when I was younger, when you were.
Speaker 2: Can I ask why you felt like it was difficult? Well,
Speaker 2: it was just because I just I just felt so insecure.
Speaker 1: I was an secure type of person, you feel me.
Speaker 1: It was just like this, uh.
Speaker 2: Growing up with I grew up, I got bullied a
Speaker 2: lot for my weight and shit, really yeah, I used
Speaker 2: to I used to be a little heavier when I
Speaker 2: was younger. I used to be a little tubby, But no,
Speaker 2: no more. I don't really care because it's just like
Speaker 2: people like me for who I am. It ain't It
Speaker 2: ain't about how I look, It's about how I carry myself.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna continue carrying myself the way that
Speaker 2: I'm going to.
Speaker 1: So in the journey from being insecure about your way
Speaker 1: and people bullying you and whatnot to where you are now,
Speaker 1: where you seem very comfortable with yourself, Like, what what
Speaker 1: do you think was it that kind of got you
Speaker 1: from that insecure point to where you are now? If
Speaker 1: you want me to keep it up up with you,
Speaker 1: I took a lot of LSD. Okay, you know, I
Speaker 1: know you're not the first person to like, actually literally
Speaker 1: we I've been doing all these live shows and I
Speaker 1: just had someone last night come up and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I also on LSD had like a realization that that changed.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the trip?
Speaker 6: What what?
Speaker 1: What? What was it that made you come to this realization?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I was just I was in my bedroom, I
Speaker 2: was smoking for my bong, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: I forgot which anime I was watching. It was either
Speaker 2: a comic got killed or hunts like Hunter one that
Speaker 2: I'm too. But I was like I was in my
Speaker 2: room and it was hot. I was like sweating like crazy.
Speaker 2: I just I was like, I guess I'm gonna take.
Speaker 1: Off my shirt.
Speaker 2: And where I was sitting on there was like a
Speaker 2: mirror right in front of me in my bedroom at
Speaker 2: the time. So I'm just like staring at myself in
Speaker 2: the mirror with my shirt off, tripping balls, and.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is me.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't hate this person because this is
Speaker 2: literally me. So I just at that point, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I bet funk all that shit, mink, throw that shit
Speaker 2: out the window, and now I'm just happy with literally
Speaker 2: everything about myself.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful, man, it is. It is a weird thing,
Speaker 1: Like when you're tripping and you're looking at yourself in
Speaker 1: the mirror and you're like, that's me. I'm a guy.
Speaker 1: I actually exist. That's my form. You're trying to learn
Speaker 1: to love yourself. I like that, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Scooby, what's next for you in the future.
Speaker 1: I know you're working on music, but like, where do
Speaker 1: you want your life to go? Man? What do you
Speaker 1: see for yourself? Man?
Speaker 2: In reality, I just see myself swimming this money, swimming
Speaker 2: this pussy and just swimming in these drugs.
Speaker 1: You feel me. I'm happy.
Speaker 2: I'm content with the path that I'm choosing. I'm content
Speaker 2: with the path that I'm going down on right now.
Speaker 2: And I just see a lot of just a lot
Speaker 2: of success in my future. And I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 2: following that stall.
Speaker 1: I love that. Man. I'm wishing you success too, so
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go, man, just
Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram, I c O y s x
Speaker 1: oo B.
Speaker 2: You feel me, run up my streams on SoundCloud and
Speaker 2: Apple Music, Spotify, ic school, you feel me, and just
Speaker 2: staying soon because it's not gonna be the last you
Speaker 2: seeing me.
Speaker 1: I swim. Can I ask one last segal? Where did
Speaker 1: Scooby come from? Alright? So no.
Speaker 2: Quickly after I turned thirteen, I moved from South from
Speaker 2: North New York to South Carolina, and I went to
Speaker 2: there my high school years.
Speaker 1: I ended up meeting this one dude.
Speaker 2: His name his name was Brian, but he went by
Speaker 2: the name Shaggy, and I'm him all the time.
Speaker 1: Smoking.
Speaker 2: We're smoking every day, eating a lot, munching a lot.
Speaker 2: He was a white boy, and I'm a little like colored.
Speaker 1: You feel me? So we just ended up being that shaggy.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, that's Scooby. Okay. I was gonna ask if
Speaker 1: there was a Shaggy.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be corny, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: hold you your free moss On Shaggy though he got
Speaker 2: locked up long ago.
Speaker 1: He got.
Speaker 2: You. Just free moss Son though, for real.
Speaker 1: Free Shaggy maybe?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: And then what is your Instagram again? I see y
Speaker 1: s x O O B I see y yo Shaggy.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for talking to man. I appreciate
Speaker 1: this won't be the last I'm seeing to you. Take
Speaker 1: care man? How fuck with that guy?
Speaker 7: Hello?
Speaker 1: All right? I like this jacket? Is that genuine animal?
Speaker 7: For no?
Speaker 1: I would never you would never know you're above that.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's your name? I'm Jade, Jade, veryness to meet? Sure?
Speaker 1: What's what's life like? Jade?
Speaker 7: If at the moment is a bit crazy?
Speaker 1: Why is it crazy?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 7: So I was engaged, okay, and I'm not anymore.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How long were you with the person before you were
Speaker 1: engaged with them?
Speaker 7: About a year? Okay, Yeah, about a year and now
Speaker 7: we're not, and I'm trying to navigate that. I feel
Speaker 7: like I've gone a bit cold after it.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, did were you like you believed in love
Speaker 1: and now you don't?
Speaker 7: It was like a complete hopeless romantic and I was like,
Speaker 7: this is it, this is forever blah blah blah. Then
Speaker 7: some thing's happened and then I'm like it doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1: When you were in your hopeless romantic love, what was like,
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts about love? Like? What was engulfing
Speaker 1: you in that moment?
Speaker 7: I was like, I was like the girl that like
Speaker 7: always like had my dream wedding planned out, like loved
Speaker 7: like needed like that to happen. And then I'm pretty young,
Speaker 7: like I'm twenty three, so I got engaged at twenty two.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, did a lot of people in your life
Speaker 1: tell you not to do that?
Speaker 7: Actually everyone told me to do it?
Speaker 1: Really yeah?
Speaker 7: Because everyone really really liked himself. I won't say too much.
Speaker 7: He's like, I don't know where this is going, but
Speaker 7: everyone said go for it, like they thought it was
Speaker 7: the right idea. They're happy for me, I mean, but
Speaker 7: then after we ended, they were like, yeah, that probably
Speaker 7: wasn't the best idea. I was like, well, you guys
Speaker 7: could have told me that before I did it. But
Speaker 7: but now I'm like, I'm like meeting new people, but
Speaker 7: I'm like, it's not.
Speaker 1: Really you're you had now when you meet a person,
Speaker 1: you're like, I can see this h two years into
Speaker 1: the future.
Speaker 7: It's red flags and like when they're not even there though.
Speaker 1: So if you're cool with telling us, like, what was
Speaker 1: it that transitioned you from being hopelessly in love to
Speaker 1: this new like you know, feelings about love and kind
Speaker 1: of from a hopeful romantic to a hopeless one.
Speaker 7: I feel like confidence maybe, like and like relying more
Speaker 7: on myself rather than I felt like I relied on
Speaker 7: other people before. And I'm like, I don't need anyone
Speaker 7: with myself, like and that's that's it.
Speaker 1: That's very beautiful, by the way. That's I love that
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people they get lost
Speaker 1: in the trap of like thinking that they need somebody
Speaker 1: to complete them.
Speaker 7: But actually, because that was me completely like my whole
Speaker 7: life pretty much, I was like, I feel like I
Speaker 7: just need this one person. If I get this one person,
Speaker 7: like because I was such a hopeless romantic I'm like,
Speaker 7: if I do this, if I get this person, if
Speaker 7: they love me, like my life would be great, all
Speaker 7: my problems are going to go away, blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: But that obviously doesn't work like that. And I feel
Speaker 7: like it comes from you. You know, and you're born you,
Speaker 7: and you leave you so like and you're stuck with
Speaker 7: you for the time between.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's that. It's an interesting thing because you
Speaker 1: you you would like it to be that easy, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: they're great you come into relationship with them, life's beautiful forever.
Speaker 1: But actually you need to like do long, hard work
Speaker 1: on your way with yourself and it's less of a
Speaker 1: of a sexy notion because it's a long, arduous process
Speaker 1: that really never ends ultimately. Yeah, but it's all for
Speaker 1: the best, right because you're full because at the very
Speaker 1: even though it's a harder thing, you're in control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like you you in a relationship, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: fifty percent of control.
Speaker 7: Is totally and now it's just like one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: This sounds so cliche, No.
Speaker 1: It's cliche. The cliche for a reason.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and like but now it's like one hundred percent
Speaker 7: time for me, and like I'm I'm studying to be
Speaker 7: a surgeon. So like now I'm like one hundred percent
Speaker 7: of my time is dedicated for me and my school
Speaker 7: and my career and my future.
Speaker 9: And it's like.
Speaker 7: I don't know what the word is, like beautiful, it
Speaker 7: is very beautiful, like it's motivating. Then it's just like
Speaker 7: my time, like my time is set for what I
Speaker 7: want to do and I'm not picking up for anyone
Speaker 7: else or answering to anyone else.
Speaker 1: Can I ass you this? Because so this this relationship,
Speaker 1: was your idea of love's soured or your idea of
Speaker 1: this person specifically love? What was it that soured it?
Speaker 1: Was it something about him or was it something about
Speaker 1: just the general feeling of being in a relationship.
Speaker 7: I think that my whole life, as I said, I
Speaker 7: felt like if you had love, that like you had
Speaker 7: everything or something you were, you made it. You Like
Speaker 7: when I got engaged, I felt in that moment like
Speaker 7: this is it. I made it. I got someone loves me,
Speaker 7: someone you know, And I thought that that was like
Speaker 7: the epitome of of the meaning of our lives. But
Speaker 7: over the past few months, like I've realized that family
Speaker 7: yep end your social life your work life, your personal life,
Speaker 7: your spiritual life. Like there's so many components to like
Speaker 7: making your life happy, and it's not just love that
Speaker 7: makes you And so yeah, I think that, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 7: like that person specific definitely like soured it a bit,
Speaker 7: But I think it's just the idea that love is
Speaker 7: an added bonus onto your life, but it's not the
Speaker 7: whole part of your Like it's not everything of your life.
Speaker 1: What kinds of things have you been doing that you
Speaker 1: felt like you couldn't do when you were in the
Speaker 1: relationship now that you're saying so.
Speaker 7: Much, so much. I've been going out a lot, but
Speaker 7: like not like in a bad way, like I mean
Speaker 7: going outs and like seeing my friends so much more.
Speaker 7: I built my Like my sister's here right now. I've
Speaker 7: had such a great relationship with my sister lately, my
Speaker 7: mom more time for like my family. I've been grinding
Speaker 7: in school.
Speaker 1: Like when you said you're to be you say you're
Speaker 1: going to be a surgeon, I was like, that's gonna
Speaker 1: take Are you gonna be working like one hundred hours
Speaker 1: a week? Which you should, I mean it should be
Speaker 1: everyone who is studying medicine. It should be really hard
Speaker 1: to become a surgeon. You know.
Speaker 7: It's just you don't want someone that has like no
Speaker 7: work ethic working on your brain. But yeah no, uh,
Speaker 7: time for a lot more time for God, a lot
Speaker 7: more time for just whatever I want to do. Really,
Speaker 7: and like I felt like I when I was in
Speaker 7: that relationship, I was kind of scheduling my things around.
Speaker 1: The other person.
Speaker 7: Yeah, which, like I guess it is like that in
Speaker 7: a relationship. It's like give and take or whatever. But
Speaker 7: it's such a huge sense of freedom I feel now.
Speaker 7: And I think I feel this freedom because I've learned
Speaker 7: that love isn't Ever before when I had gone through
Speaker 7: a breakup or what have you, like it felt devastating,
Speaker 7: but this time around, it's been like so much more
Speaker 7: like motivating.
Speaker 1: I love that because it is a devastating thing to realize, like,
Speaker 1: oh the thing I thought was gonna be the endl
Speaker 1: be all? Actually is it? Because you're like what do
Speaker 1: I do now? So it starts devastating, but then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not done. There's so much more to your life.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, don't.
Speaker 7: Get me wrong. Like did I go on a man
Speaker 7: expiral after like one hundred percent? I drove twenty hours
Speaker 7: to Florida, like when it happened to see my family
Speaker 7: that live down there. But like I got over it,
Speaker 7: like I worked through it and now I'm like, I'm
Speaker 7: actually good, you know.
Speaker 1: Jade, I'm very happy for you. This is awesome. Thank
Speaker 1: you for sharing all this. Is there anything else you
Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before
Speaker 1: we go?
Speaker 7: You guys can follow me on Instagram. Sure, Jade keo,
Speaker 7: it's a j A D E K e O g
Speaker 7: h h. If you go to Columbia, I go to Columbia,
Speaker 7: so I'll see you around. But uh, that's about it.
Speaker 7: I do want to end with hit me, love yourself,
Speaker 7: and the rest will follow him.
Speaker 1: Jade, thank you very much for talking to get that.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Jane. Good luck to you. That
Speaker 1: was great. Did you hear any of that? Did you
Speaker 1: hear her talking a lot? That was what she was
Speaker 1: talking about, Like she she thought that love was the
Speaker 1: most important thing in life, and then it kind of
Speaker 1: soured and that was devastating. But then she realized, like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's so much more to life and it kind of
Speaker 1: opened her up and that was awesome. I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: talking to her about.
Speaker 4: That smart girl.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 10: My name is Spaz Spaz, Yesaz.
Speaker 1: Fast, nice to meet she. Man, what are you all about?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 10: Well, obviously from the name, I'm a Spaz okay, but
Speaker 10: I make music, you know, I'm a breakdance of B
Speaker 10: boy I street Befohm.
Speaker 4: I'm actually about to go do it in in a
Speaker 4: few minutes.
Speaker 1: Oh really, you know, like.
Speaker 10: Show time show Yeah, like, yeah, that's me right there,
Speaker 10: So yeah, I do that. Actually, today is really like
Speaker 10: it's really like a monumental day for me, and it's crazy.
Speaker 10: I get to do this because I've been fighting this
Speaker 10: case for like a couple of years. I ended up
Speaker 10: doing like two twenty four months in jail for something
Speaker 10: like I did for my mom or whatever, you know,
Speaker 10: try to be a family guy as a young adult.
Speaker 10: I was eighteen, so I did twenty four months and
Speaker 10: then I still had to deal with the case after that,
Speaker 10: and today was the last day of everything.
Speaker 4: So I'm officially a free man.
Speaker 1: Graduation. That's awesome. That's awesome. So you said you did something,
Speaker 1: and we don't have to get into the specifics very thing,
Speaker 1: but what's your relationship like with your mom? Man?
Speaker 10: Well now, like me and my family don't even talk
Speaker 10: so really yeah, so it's like I didn't do it
Speaker 10: for nothing, but I did it for a reason. If
Speaker 10: I went and did it, you know, it wouldn't be
Speaker 10: the way it is now with her, she wouldn't probably
Speaker 10: be staying where she's staying, or like, you know, I
Speaker 10: wouldn't be in a position I'm in.
Speaker 1: So so so you don't talk to her anymore. Nah,
Speaker 1: we don't have to get to that. You don't want
Speaker 1: to get into. But can I ask why, just.
Speaker 4: You know, just family stuff.
Speaker 10: You come like after doing that much you do twenty
Speaker 10: four months in jail, prison as a young adult, you're
Speaker 10: not the same no more come out you know, so
Speaker 10: like your mentality is different, the way you move, like
Speaker 10: everything about you is so different. It's just like you
Speaker 10: getting used to society and society getting used to you.
Speaker 10: It's just like it takes time to coexist, and sometimes
Speaker 10: you just have to be away from the people you
Speaker 10: love because it's harder for them.
Speaker 1: Can I hear more about, like any sort of specific
Speaker 1: differences in your mindset that you found when you like
Speaker 1: first came into jail, when you got out.
Speaker 10: I mean, like before jail, I was the love of boy,
Speaker 10: so you know, I was I was always there for
Speaker 10: everybody everything. I wouldn't really do much for myself even now,
Speaker 10: like I'm still like I'm a selfless person. Like you know,
Speaker 10: I would give people like shoes off my feet, you know,
Speaker 10: stuff like that. But going to jail made me realize,
Speaker 10: you know, like being that type of person in.
Speaker 1: Jail wouldn't get you far interesting.
Speaker 10: You know, Let's say, like I had a female that
Speaker 10: I was with. We was with each other probably a
Speaker 10: year before I went to jail, and while I was
Speaker 10: in jail, like she was messing with my.
Speaker 4: Friends and stuff like that. So like like it changed
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 10: It showed me like people were not gonna always be there,
Speaker 10: Like even like down to family, they they wasn't always
Speaker 10: able to send me money or they just wouldn't send
Speaker 10: me money or answer my phone.
Speaker 4: Calls, no letters, pictures.
Speaker 10: But I had certain people that would and like I
Speaker 10: would be grateful for certain things. So like I would
Speaker 10: like thinking after jail, it's just like you know, you
Speaker 10: gotta just don't even worry about what's there and what's not,
Speaker 10: just be grateful for it.
Speaker 4: Whatever comes, it comes, like it is what it is.
Speaker 4: You can't you got a lift for today.
Speaker 10: You can't really think too much on the future, what's
Speaker 10: gonna happen, or how you shouldn't like, you know, how
Speaker 10: you should do things, cause when you actually get to
Speaker 10: that point, you're never gonna do that.
Speaker 4: You're gonna act up for impulse.
Speaker 1: So so when you came so you first started out,
Speaker 1: you felt like you were very you know, sort of giving,
Speaker 1: and you're like you would give people the shoes off
Speaker 1: of your feet. And then you came out You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that anymore.
Speaker 10: It's not just like I'm not doing it, just like
Speaker 10: I was more conscious to it, Like.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, like why I select you with who
Speaker 1: you're giving your energy too?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Why am I giving you the shoes off of my feet?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 4: If you wouldn't give me, you know, CRAMMEO for your plate?
Speaker 1: Sure? Sure. So if you're not talking to your family anymore,
Speaker 1: what do you have people in your life that you're
Speaker 1: cool with that you do feel are worthy of your graciousness?
Speaker 10: I mean, I feel like everybody's worthy of everything. But
Speaker 10: it's just I don't know, you just got to take
Speaker 10: the time to you know, come see me talk to me,
Speaker 10: figuring me out. Let me figure you out.
Speaker 1: What was it like when you first got out of jail,
Speaker 1: Like what were you doing before? Like were you in
Speaker 1: school or were you working at all? Oh?
Speaker 10: No, school was never a thing for me. But like
Speaker 10: I said, I dance, you know, and I make music.
Speaker 10: So I've been doing that my whole life. I came home,
Speaker 10: I started doing like like concerts and stuff like that.
Speaker 10: You know, I do the street performing things. So I still,
Speaker 10: you know, I stay healthy, I stay in shape. Was
Speaker 10: going to the gym just like regular stuff. So I
Speaker 10: had to get into like dating. But it's like it's
Speaker 10: scary because especially coming out of jail. Sure like you're
Speaker 10: you're kind of thirsty or so, Like I wasn't. I
Speaker 10: never really cared about stuff like that. It was just
Speaker 10: like the fact that I don't want to waste my time.
Speaker 10: You may show women a certain type of vulnerability and
Speaker 10: it gets held against you, or you may not and
Speaker 10: that gets held against you. You can't be too dominant
Speaker 10: or assertive.
Speaker 4: You can't be.
Speaker 10: Too vulnerable, can't be too sad. It can't be a bitch,
Speaker 10: Like what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: So when you say that you're kind of like navigating
Speaker 1: the dating world very carefully. Are you like looking to
Speaker 1: hook up? Are you looking for like an actual kind
Speaker 1: of stable relationship.
Speaker 10: I mean, I can't hook up with nobody that I
Speaker 10: can't have a conversation with. Sure, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 10: because it's just like a nut might be a nut
Speaker 10: or whatever, but you know, it's still it's still time
Speaker 10: and energy that comes with that. Like I'm Native Americans,
Speaker 10: so like I'm very spiritual, So like I do believe
Speaker 10: in like when you do certain things and you swap
Speaker 10: and stuff like that, that's your bodily aways going into me.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 10: You know, I'm going into you like I don't want
Speaker 10: to I don't want to finish, And the next day
Speaker 10: I'm fucking depressed. While am I depressed? I just had
Speaker 10: some great sex, Like you know, it shouldn't like you
Speaker 10: shouldn't feel like that. So I really like I'm really
Speaker 10: more like on point with who take my time with?
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you're a very spiritual guy. Do you
Speaker 1: have like a main sort of fetis spiritual belief that
Speaker 1: that guides you.
Speaker 10: I mean, not necessarily, it's just like in my heritage
Speaker 10: and like you know, but at the end of the day.
Speaker 10: I do trip a lot, you know, So when it do,
Speaker 10: like when I when I am like becoming like one
Speaker 10: with myself or like trying to get into my roots
Speaker 10: or like the deeper meaning of life, I just you know,
Speaker 10: trip and just think it's it's not really much to it.
Speaker 10: You don't need religion, you don't really have to you know, worship,
Speaker 10: but a dominance or anything.
Speaker 5: It's all.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess I feel like it's all within yourself.
Speaker 10: We here, we just we here, see yourself. When you die,
Speaker 10: it's over, there's no there's nothing, so yeah, I just
Speaker 10: gotta take it in while it's here.
Speaker 1: I feel that I feel any time I think about that,
Speaker 1: I feel very inspired to be just in the moments
Speaker 1: because this is all we got. Exact future's not guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Fast is over right, right? What got you into music?
Speaker 1: You're break dancing? How have you been doing that just
Speaker 1: your entire life? Or do you remember kind of like
Speaker 1: what started you doing that?
Speaker 4: Funny things?
Speaker 10: It's funny my mom said I came out dancing like
Speaker 10: literally yeah, she said, I came out like doing the
Speaker 10: Superman moves.
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, like dancing has.
Speaker 10: Like been in my blood like nobody my family has
Speaker 10: any talent. I got two younger sisters and I have
Speaker 10: a older brother. Nobody has any talent, so like they
Speaker 10: just do like regular stuff, you know, go to school
Speaker 10: or whatever. So it's like that I took that serious
Speaker 10: me being young and I I just saw my stuck
Speaker 10: with my whole life.
Speaker 4: That's the outlet to you know, anything that's going on.
Speaker 1: And you make music too, Yeah, I make music. What
Speaker 1: kinds of things inspire your music?
Speaker 10: Hurt, heartbreak, struggles, you know, like all the bad stuff,
Speaker 10: all the bad stuff, like you know, the good stuff
Speaker 10: is like we could talk about all the good stuff,
Speaker 10: but it's like like how nonsalant do you want us
Speaker 10: to be? I'm not like every other rapper or artist
Speaker 10: that's gonna say, you know, women is the money that
Speaker 10: because at the end of the women and the money,
Speaker 10: how are you really feeling? So I talk about all
Speaker 10: the bad stuff and hopefully bring the bad stuff to life.
Speaker 4: So that way is like more of a like a
Speaker 4: like awareness music.
Speaker 1: Does it feel like a healing process to you to
Speaker 1: take all the bad stuff going on with you and
Speaker 1: like put it into something.
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely, definitely. And it's not just like it's healing
Speaker 10: for me. It's also like helping for others, so like,
Speaker 10: because a lot of people call me or like text me,
Speaker 10: like fans are like random people tell me like I've
Speaker 10: cried to your music before it so like, and it's
Speaker 10: just like like damn, like I had the power to
Speaker 10: touch somebody, so like, I mean just me knowing that
Speaker 10: I can, you know, touch somebody else. That's healing in itself.
Speaker 10: Like it doesn't even matter about the music. I just
Speaker 10: want to give my point across.
Speaker 1: Dude, What's what do you think the future looks like
Speaker 1: for you? What do you hope to achieve while you're
Speaker 1: alive on the earth?
Speaker 4: Everything?
Speaker 10: There's nothing specific, Like I said, I don't I don't
Speaker 10: dwell in the future. I don't dwell on paths. I'm
Speaker 10: on today. Today, I'm gonna get fucked up. Tomorrow I'm
Speaker 10: gonna be recovering, probably Spaz.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: T H A T B O Y L S D T.
Speaker 4: That's my name.
Speaker 10: Look it up, Spotify, Apple, YouTube, whatever, check me out.
Speaker 1: LL's Demons, your friends with Scoob too?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 4: My boys school?
Speaker 1: Do you guys make music together.
Speaker 4: Yes, to be in the samety.
Speaker 1: And we be fucking up to on them like you
Speaker 1: already know that. How did you how did you guys meet?
Speaker 4: We met in jail.
Speaker 1: You met in jail.
Speaker 10: That's been my best friend ever since. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 10: been my best friend ever since.
Speaker 1: Have you got done that? Have you like done a
Speaker 1: song together? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got music, we got videos.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna check you guys out, man, I got documentaries
Speaker 10: out to SBU c c U from all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's good to see you guys hanging out and
Speaker 1: sticking together. Man, that's awesome and it's great to be here.
Speaker 1: Nice to me too, very nice to meet your man, Scoob.
Speaker 1: Good to see you guys. Thank you for talking to
Speaker 1: a get go oh man, that was good. By the way,
Speaker 1: I love the Oreo shoes. That's fucking rock oh man,
Speaker 1: beautiful beautiful. Hey, thank you guys. That was awesome. Did
Speaker 1: you hear that conversation that was so inspiring? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was really cool.
Speaker 11: Like I always walked past these kind of like you know,
Speaker 11: skaters are always right here, square and I never really
Speaker 11: like even pay attention to them, but it's people are
Speaker 11: so deep.
Speaker 1: I know I by the way, I just I fucking
Speaker 1: love the energy in Washington Square Park. It's so cool.
Speaker 1: I love it here. I want to move here one days,
Speaker 1: like the.
Speaker 5: Coolest place you live here right, like in the bushes,
Speaker 5: because you're I will.
Speaker 1: Live here in the bushes and probably cheaper than renting.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's your name, Joel?
Speaker 5: What's your name?
Speaker 1: Lyle nice Man? What's uh? What's going on on with
Speaker 1: you in your life? What are you all about?
Speaker 5: Fuck? Fine out? Well, okay, okay, I'm a student.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 11: What do you study at Like many of the other
Speaker 11: people here, I study musical theater?
Speaker 1: Study musical theater? What do you What is your dream role?
Speaker 1: Take a second to think about it?
Speaker 5: Please, thank you, Jel.
Speaker 1: Let me think of mine. When I was in high school,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be and I chickened out. I
Speaker 1: didn't do it. But I wanted to be Sebastian in
Speaker 1: The Mermaid because in the shower I sing under the
Speaker 1: sea all the time, and I feel like it'd be
Speaker 1: a fun song to sing in front of an audience.
Speaker 5: I love it. I mean, well, t V Diggs just
Speaker 5: stole your role? Who did d V Diggs?
Speaker 1: One? The new One? The remake in all the classic movies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 11: So I loved The jungle Book right, the initial jungle Book,
Speaker 11: and then I just felt like it went downhill from there.
Speaker 1: Right, it remade the Jungle Book, didn't they the remake?
Speaker 11: I'm saying the remake of the Jungle Book, Like the
Speaker 11: first live action that they did was fucking amazing, and
Speaker 11: then everything else I thought was kind of it just right.
Speaker 1: It's weird because the timeline they did the Jungle Book
Speaker 1: back in like twenty like ten or something, and then
Speaker 1: now they're like, Okay, let's do everything else.
Speaker 11: Right exactly because it's an easy you know, they've already
Speaker 11: written all the stories, so it's just like easy money
Speaker 11: Disney Joel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your dream roll? Dream roll?
Speaker 11: In musical theater, I'd want to play Princeton and Avenue Q.
Speaker 11: Have you seen Avenue Q?
Speaker 1: I Love Avenue Q.
Speaker 5: Avenue Q's I Love Avenue Q.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 11: That was her favorite musical. So when I was like
Speaker 11: two years old, she'd be playing, you know, like the
Speaker 11: Internet is for porn, Internet is for porn. Everyone was Fuck,
Speaker 11: everyone's a little bit racist, just like in the house
Speaker 11: while I was learning how to walk.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, so I think have you seen it live? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome.
Speaker 5: I saw it with my mom actually when we first
Speaker 5: came to New York.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Man Off Broadway before it closed, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: So you're studying to be musical theater what do you
Speaker 1: what do you?
Speaker 10: I mean?
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: I assume you want to go be a an actor? Okay,
Speaker 1: that'd be cool. What is it that makes you want
Speaker 1: to do that? What is it about the lights, the people,
Speaker 1: the action?
Speaker 11: I think everyone's kind of searching for human connection, right, yeah, sure,
Speaker 11: I mean that's kind of how I feel when I'm
Speaker 11: in a show.
Speaker 5: I'm connecting with others.
Speaker 11: I'm connecting with you right now, and there's this like
Speaker 11: sense of love and belonging that I think that I
Speaker 11: can't or I haven't really been able to find in
Speaker 11: any other thing that I've done interesting and obviously, you know,
Speaker 11: like the more I did it, the more I realized
Speaker 11: like I was actually good at it, and then I
Speaker 11: couldn't really see myself doing anything else, like if I
Speaker 11: was gonna go into math.
Speaker 1: Were there things that you tried before musical theater when
Speaker 1: you were kind of like trying to figure yourself out
Speaker 1: that like didn't quite work well.
Speaker 11: My dad's Argentinian, right, and so they have an amazing
Speaker 11: soccer team. And so I did a lot of sports
Speaker 11: growing up, Like I did soccer until I was probably five,
Speaker 11: actually did until I was seven. I did soccer when
Speaker 11: I was seven, and then I did baseball, and then
Speaker 11: I did basketball. But you can't really play those sports
Speaker 11: if you're scared of the ball, right, And when you
Speaker 11: get older, there's this really interesting thing that happens where
Speaker 11: people actually start to take it seriously and they they've
Speaker 11: become competitive, and so like that's when like checking starts
Speaker 11: getting becoming a thing, and it's.
Speaker 5: I'm not for that, Like I don't like pain.
Speaker 1: And you know what's you know what is interesting about
Speaker 1: what we're talking about here is like there's there's the
Speaker 1: fear of physical danger of I'm gonna get fucking decked,
Speaker 1: of I'm gonna get a baseball to the face. That
Speaker 1: is like, you know, a primal scary thing. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then there's the fear of I'm gonna go out there
Speaker 1: in front of five hundred people and I'm gonna fucking
Speaker 1: sing a song and I'm gonna put myself out there
Speaker 1: in a vulnerable position. And that's a fucking scary thing too.
Speaker 1: That's a fear that you've been able to overcome.
Speaker 11: That's more emotional pain, right, I think, like physical pain
Speaker 11: like bleeding or it seems a little bit more daunting
Speaker 11: to me, right, Like I mean I don't really have
Speaker 11: to go in with a fear of like, oh I
Speaker 11: could die on stage, right, Like, I mean it's happened,
Speaker 11: but like that's not really like in my control versus.
Speaker 1: Like when you when you perform, do you get nervous
Speaker 1: at all? Or are you typically good with the crowd?
Speaker 11: I used to not get nervous at all, really, and
Speaker 11: then I think when it became something that was like
Speaker 11: more serious, right Like if now if I go on stage,
Speaker 11: especially like if it's in front of a New York
Speaker 11: audience or something like that, I do get more nervous
Speaker 11: because I know people are there's there there's more of
Speaker 11: a of a high quality theater scene. He expectation or
Speaker 11: expectation of like oh this, like is he going to
Speaker 11: live up to whatever anyone else does? And so like
Speaker 11: I think it's it's the judgment that probably makes me
Speaker 11: more nervous than anything interesting of judgment?
Speaker 1: Do you do you do you have a fear of judgment?
Speaker 1: And is that just like you know, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're willing to talk about it, like, is that a
Speaker 1: thing in your personal life at all? Or is that
Speaker 1: like just on the stage, Like how are you with
Speaker 1: like being confident about just being yourself and just in life.
Speaker 11: I think it's it's both. I think I I think
Speaker 11: I feel it everywhere. I mean, I bring kind of
Speaker 11: who I am as a person to the stage.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sure, middle school kind of screwed me up.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about middle school. You're down? What's up in
Speaker 1: middle school?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I had a lot of friends who were.
Speaker 11: They're like fake friends, right, Yeah, they pretended to be
Speaker 11: friends with me, but it was only as like a oh,
Speaker 11: like and then we're going to break off and exclude
Speaker 11: you and do our own.
Speaker 1: Middle schoolers are strangely Mackavelian in that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand it.
Speaker 11: I think like a lot of people want to feel
Speaker 11: a sense of power in middle school, and like they.
Speaker 5: I don't even I don't even.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm like talking about it, is I know what
Speaker 11: middle schoolers think when like I've repressed it so far
Speaker 11: in my memory, like deep down that I don't remember
Speaker 11: anything that happened. I just know that I have some
Speaker 11: untapped trauma from middle school that I just I've just
Speaker 11: chosen to ignore.
Speaker 1: And and like, nowadays, do you feel like you have
Speaker 1: a good support system, You got good friends that you
Speaker 1: can count on being true?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, high school definitely. When I became more mature.
Speaker 11: Yeah, like could actually carry myself confidently.
Speaker 5: The right people gravitate towards you.
Speaker 1: It's a When I was in middle school, I also
Speaker 1: like had you know, I was very nervous. And you
Speaker 1: grow up and you realize everyone was you know, the
Speaker 1: people who were like you know, the kids who whatever
Speaker 1: you could say, they were the popular kids, and like
Speaker 1: you know, uh uh, they would make you feel a
Speaker 1: little bit weird. But then you grow up and you
Speaker 1: meet you ever meet have you met up with anyone
Speaker 1: from middle school in your adult life? You're an adult,
Speaker 1: they're an adult, and then you are like, everything that
Speaker 1: was going on in middle school is so stupid. Yeah it happened.
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, they're all so nice to me after they've
Speaker 11: treated me like like dirt for the fast, Like it's
Speaker 11: just the weirdest thing ever, Like people completely change, both
Speaker 11: on their end and on my end. You know, like
Speaker 11: I learned more to not really be affected by those
Speaker 11: kind of people. But they've also realized what they were
Speaker 11: doing in the past was kind of shitty, and so
Speaker 11: they've been nice to more people because they've realized that
Speaker 11: kindness gets them farther in life. And so it's just
Speaker 11: really wild to see them again if you go to
Speaker 11: reunion and stuff.
Speaker 1: What I this is a loaded question here, but how
Speaker 1: do you from the kind of insecure middle time, middle
Speaker 1: school times and to now what do you feel like?
Speaker 1: What tools have you gained to help you navigate through life?
Speaker 5: Lead with love.
Speaker 11: Because that's what everyone needs. I was listening to.
Speaker 5: What was the name of the woman.
Speaker 11: Who got who was supposed to be engaged then j
Speaker 11: Janey she was. She said something really profound about like,
Speaker 11: you know, after you after she realized that she didn't
Speaker 11: have love anymore, that she realized that she could anchor
Speaker 11: herself and family and friends and work, and like, I
Speaker 11: think that.
Speaker 5: Love exists in all of those things.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, there's like a love pie charge and
Speaker 1: they all are kind of creating a little symphony. And
Speaker 1: so she.
Speaker 11: Was actually I think searching for love and other places
Speaker 11: of her life that she didn't realize it existed. And
Speaker 11: I just find that fascinating. I'm still trying to find
Speaker 11: more love and it doesn't necessarily have to be held
Speaker 11: by the people who I think I need it from, right.
Speaker 1: M Well, Joel, thanks for sharing all of this stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: this was this was super cool of talking to you.
Speaker 1: What what do you hope for yourself in the future?
Speaker 5: For myself?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh oh god, I tokay. If you don't know,
Speaker 1: I should know. Yeah, there's no reason to know. We
Speaker 1: don't even know if there's going to be a future.
Speaker 1: There could be a meteor. Yeah, I just happened to
Speaker 1: the dinosaurs. It could happen to us.
Speaker 11: I hope that like my future self looks back on
Speaker 11: my past self and says like, hey, like you made
Speaker 11: the right decision there. You made the right call there,
Speaker 11: because there are so many decisions that we're going to
Speaker 11: be faced with in life that I don't think anyone's
Speaker 11: really prepared to make. Yeah, and so if I make
Speaker 11: a few right decisions, then I think that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of this theater before we expected.
Speaker 5: I don't I thought my friend was going to be talking.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was a pleasure talking to you. I would
Speaker 11: give my Instagram, but I don't really. I don't think
Speaker 11: I have to promote anything.
Speaker 1: You don't.
Speaker 5: Live a happy life.
Speaker 1: Very nice talking to you, man, Thank you very much
Speaker 1: for sure. Hey, wishing you good luck?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah you too. Oh man. Now I'm thinking about my
Speaker 1: middle school times, and people are gonna listen to you.
Speaker 1: They're gonna to think about their middle school times. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing all that, man, of course, anytime. It's
Speaker 1: a pleasure. Take care, brother. I love the screen dress.
Speaker 1: This is cool you where'd you get it?
Speaker 12: Amazon dot com?
Speaker 1: I got this on Amazon dot com. BeOS, fuck Bezos,
Speaker 1: but he got us, he got he won. What's your name?
Speaker 12: My name is Julia, Julia.
Speaker 1: What's what's your life like? Man?
Speaker 12: I'm a student.
Speaker 13: I just came from class and I actually just saw
Speaker 13: a sticker that said calling face timing your mom is
Speaker 13: not therapy, and then I ran into therapy.
Speaker 12: Get go, this is my therapy.
Speaker 1: Now therapy Gecko is also not therapy. I wish I'll
Speaker 1: tack that onto the sticker. When's the last time he
Speaker 1: facetimed your mom?
Speaker 12: I called her like as soon as I saw the sticker?
Speaker 1: Oh you did?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And uh, how was that? Was that the first time
Speaker 1: he'd called her in a while?
Speaker 12: No, I call her all the time, but she was busy,
Speaker 12: so it was a short call.
Speaker 1: What do you typically talk about with your mom life?
Speaker 12: You know, catching up? My dad just recently passed.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 12: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how how's your relationship with your mom?
Speaker 12: It's it's good. It's a little different now.
Speaker 13: I've come from like a family of three, so now
Speaker 13: it's just me and her, so, you know, dynamics changed
Speaker 13: a bit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, can I ask and you know, I know
Speaker 1: it's probably a certain subject and we have to talk
Speaker 1: about it if you don't want to. But when he passed,
Speaker 1: did that kind of bring you guys closer together at all?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 12: We could talk about my dad.
Speaker 13: I love my dad and he's awesome, and it did
Speaker 13: bring us together. But now I'm like studying away, so
Speaker 13: that's kind of hard.
Speaker 1: Where are you studying away here?
Speaker 12: I'm from Miami.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, cool? What made you want to come to
Speaker 1: New York?
Speaker 13: My dad actually instilled New York into me. I was
Speaker 13: born here, but he really gave me that passion for
Speaker 13: New York. And yeah, everything I do is because of him.
Speaker 1: Tell me more about everything that you do. What are
Speaker 1: what are you studying?
Speaker 12: I go to n y U. I made my own major.
Speaker 1: You can you do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 12: You can?
Speaker 5: What's It's called the Esthetics of Blackness?
Speaker 13: So I basically see the ways that black people function
Speaker 13: within different art sectors and the way art is representative
Speaker 13: of black people, and how black people have influence art
Speaker 13: in return.
Speaker 1: How what what year are you in school?
Speaker 12: I'm like a junior slash senior.
Speaker 1: Okay, And are you when you get to a senior
Speaker 1: are you gonna have to write like a senior thesis
Speaker 1: of some kind? Do you know kind of what the
Speaker 1: thesis statement of the these this is going to be?
Speaker 1: I don't interesting.
Speaker 13: It's really weird because I got into like what I
Speaker 13: do because of my dad, and I would always like
Speaker 13: call him when I have papers and stuff. So now
Speaker 13: it's kind of like me learning how to fend for
Speaker 13: myself and discover myself and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are some like kind of central truths or
Speaker 1: main ideas that you've taken away from from your studies.
Speaker 12: A central truth.
Speaker 14: I don't know.
Speaker 13: It's just really interesting how race like impacts everything in America,
Speaker 13: in the world, everything really is systemic. It's really built
Speaker 13: off of history, so you have to understand the past
Speaker 13: to understand the present and the future.
Speaker 1: Is this a subject that you've always been very interested in? Yeah?
Speaker 12: I would say so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What did you want to be when you were like
Speaker 1: a little kid?
Speaker 13: When I was a little kid, I wanted to go
Speaker 13: to n y U, which I do, Okay, and I
Speaker 13: I think I wanted to do fashion or something.
Speaker 1: Not sure? Do you are you still into fashion now?
Speaker 10: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you like, uh, where do you typically shop at?
Speaker 1: Is it Amazon? Or do you like thrift stores?
Speaker 12: I'm poor.
Speaker 13: I don't know. I like shopsider. That's a good one
Speaker 13: for my poor bitches out there.
Speaker 1: Okay. And so your mom is back in Miami, yes,
Speaker 1: And has it has it been difficult being away from
Speaker 1: her at this time?
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been pretty hard.
Speaker 1: What what kinds of things do you like kind of
Speaker 1: do to keep a good relationship with her.
Speaker 13: It's really just important to just check up on each other,
Speaker 13: you know. Mental health is important obviously, and we're just
Speaker 13: trying to be strong for each other, so you have
Speaker 13: to recognize that, you know, there might be a facade
Speaker 13: behind the stringth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has it been hard to like keep
Speaker 1: up a do Do you feel like a need to
Speaker 1: keep up a facade of some kind?
Speaker 13: I actually do, Like I just I don't want to
Speaker 13: see my mom cry. My mom doesn't want to see
Speaker 13: me cry. So I don't know, but we do need
Speaker 13: to talk about my dad to each other because we're
Speaker 13: the only people who really understand.
Speaker 1: So it's you don't have any siblings, just you mom
Speaker 1: and dad. Have you been like talking with any other
Speaker 1: people that your dad was close to in his life,
Speaker 1: like any of his friends or people he worked with,
Speaker 1: or sort of commiserating with other people in his life.
Speaker 13: So my dad was a security guard and he actually
Speaker 13: died at work, but there was like all the kids
Speaker 13: at the school like gave us so many notes and
Speaker 13: letters and like the beautiful ideologies that my dad instilled
Speaker 13: in them and stuff like that.
Speaker 12: So sometimes like just reading those can help.
Speaker 1: Can I hear any of these of these ideologies that
Speaker 1: he instilled in them that touched you?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 13: I think one person said that, like on his like
Speaker 13: last day on earth that he saw like this one
Speaker 13: kid who looks sad and he was like, what's wrong, buddy,
Speaker 13: And then the kids like like these kids are you know,
Speaker 13: bullying me and making fun of me? And then he
Speaker 13: was like one of the last things he said was
Speaker 13: to like uplift some child, and he was like, you know,
Speaker 13: don't ever let these kids get to you. You have
Speaker 13: to know who you are yourself. And once you know that,
Speaker 13: like their words won't affect you.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's great. That's cool that that he worked
Speaker 1: with so many, so many people that like would write
Speaker 1: you these letters and have your stories about him and
Speaker 1: what Now, it sounds like he touched a lot of people.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he did.
Speaker 13: He has his own holiday in Miami. He is on
Speaker 13: holiday in Miami December twenty third.
Speaker 1: It is what's what's your dad's name?
Speaker 12: Vasty Doorville?
Speaker 1: Vasty Doorville is? It is December twenty third in Miami.
Speaker 1: Is Vasty Doorville Day? Yes, Happy Vasty Doorville Day. How
Speaker 1: do people celebrate Vasty Doorvill Day?
Speaker 13: I mean, I don't know. It's happened last year, so
Speaker 13: we'll see this year. How we celebrate.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful what's your name again? Julia, Julia, Julia, thank
Speaker 1: you very much for talking all this stuff. This is awesome.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 12: On December twenty third, Kiss your daddy.
Speaker 1: Julia, thank you very much for talking to a Geko.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and good luck to you in your mom.
Speaker 14: Hello.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 14: My name is Sarafina. What's your name?
Speaker 1: Sarafina?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that. That sounds like a name of a
Speaker 1: very nice brand of bold water.
Speaker 14: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: What's your life like, Sarafina?
Speaker 14: I mean it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Like I'm from California, Okay, I'm I've been here for
Speaker 3: like less than a month because I'm here for school.
Speaker 1: Oh really Yeah, how are you finding this to be
Speaker 1: different from California?
Speaker 3: I mean I like how there's so many just like
Speaker 3: random people here and they're like all in their own
Speaker 3: little world. Yeah, it's so fun to just people watch
Speaker 3: and just like people are just doing whatever they want.
Speaker 3: And I love it there or I love it here
Speaker 3: because I feel like in California, a lot of people
Speaker 3: like to put on like a facade, which like people
Speaker 3: do here too, but especially in this area in between classes.
Speaker 14: It's just like nice to just people watched.
Speaker 3: Where in California from I'm from Orange County.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? I mean I'm in town here from la
Speaker 1: oh really yeah? And I got to say I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a way better place to
Speaker 1: people watch. It's a way different energy a lot of
Speaker 1: places in Los Angeles. I might have said this before,
Speaker 1: but they kind of look like fake cities that were
Speaker 1: made to test nuclear weapons on. They don't feel like
Speaker 1: people actually live there. And here it's a fucking amazing
Speaker 1: human beings walking by, not cars. It's wonderful. What made
Speaker 1: you want to come here to New York?
Speaker 14: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I like sometimes I'm kind of like delusional, so I'm
Speaker 3: just like, oh, for college, I was like, I just
Speaker 3: want to go somewhere far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, try New York.
Speaker 3: So I only went to schools from New York and California,
Speaker 3: and I just chose NYU because I was like, that
Speaker 3: seems like.
Speaker 9: A good school.
Speaker 3: And then I ended up getting in and so now
Speaker 3: I'm here. M Yeah, I really like it here, and
Speaker 3: I like the particular school that I'm in.
Speaker 1: What made you want to go far? Was there like
Speaker 1: a pent up cabin fever of just being in Orange
Speaker 1: County for so long.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah that, but also like I just wanted
Speaker 3: to be able to be by myself, like I really
Speaker 3: like my alone time.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 14: And I didn't like I love my family, but like
Speaker 14: I need.
Speaker 1: My space of course, of course, how do you how
Speaker 1: do you think your family feels about you going so
Speaker 1: far away? Do you think that they are they like
Speaker 1: proud of you that you're taking your own initiative to
Speaker 1: go live your own life, or are they kind of
Speaker 1: like encouraging you to stay home.
Speaker 3: No, they were pretty supportive about me going away far
Speaker 3: because my mom did the same thing.
Speaker 14: Like she's from or she's from Canada. I grew up
Speaker 14: in Michigan and.
Speaker 3: Then randomly she just decided to go out to California
Speaker 3: and I kind of did the opposite. But like it
Speaker 3: would be a little hypocritical if they wouldn't support that,
Speaker 3: But luckily.
Speaker 14: For me they do.
Speaker 1: What is your what do you study in school?
Speaker 14: I get to like make my own majors?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, just like Julia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm only a freshman, but so don't really
Speaker 3: know yet. Maybe something in media and music possibly fashioned.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what do you make music? Are you interested
Speaker 1: in making music?
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, like I'm I don't make it right now,
Speaker 3: but like if I've ever were to produce in the future,
Speaker 3: like that'd be pretty fun.
Speaker 1: Okay. Do you know, like what kinds of themes of
Speaker 1: anything that you would want to make music about?
Speaker 14: M maybe like some R and B. Okay, yeah, but
Speaker 14: I don't know, I kind of like everything.
Speaker 1: How are you adjusting to being in the city? Are
Speaker 1: you like, do you do you know anyone here?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know a couple of people, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I just made friends with them, but like going in
Speaker 3: here like I didn't know anyone?
Speaker 1: Was that scary?
Speaker 3: Like like I like, okay, nice.
Speaker 1: Would you consider yourself introverted?
Speaker 14: I mean yeah, but also depends on my mood.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's awesome. That's cool that you weren't afraid,
Speaker 1: because I mean, that's what. It's a fucking daunting thing
Speaker 1: to move across the country where you don't know anyone,
Speaker 1: but you kind of fucking brute force it.
Speaker 3: It sounds yeah, I mean it's all right, like you
Speaker 3: kind of just go with the flow with life.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Was what is it that you hope to
Speaker 1: do in the future.
Speaker 14: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I really don't know. I don't like. When I first
Speaker 3: was applying to college, I wanted to be more fashion based.
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe a fashion designer. But now since
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm more music based, maybe if I
Speaker 3: were to like plan an organized concert or something like that,
Speaker 3: But I don't really have like a clear.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a big theme of all the people I've
Speaker 1: been talking to today of like everyone's you know, I
Speaker 1: like talking to people about what they're thinking about doing
Speaker 1: for the future, but everyone's like living day by day
Speaker 1: in the moment, which is the smart move, you know,
Speaker 1: because future is never guaranteed, so it's good to be
Speaker 1: living now. What's your name again, Sarafina? Is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 3: It's okay to be delusional. That's also a way of
Speaker 3: manifesting love.
Speaker 1: It, Sara Fanna. Thank you very much for talking to
Speaker 1: GEcho Man. Take care, good luck you as well. What's
Speaker 1: your name? My name is Michael, Michael. Very nice to
Speaker 1: meet che how's life man?
Speaker 6: Life is great. I love life. It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1: It's your favorite thing? Yeah, it's your favorite thing. Why
Speaker 1: is it your favorite?
Speaker 6: Because I love living, man, I like having fun.
Speaker 1: Have you always loved to live?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really so, even since you were like a little boy,
Speaker 1: even when you first started living. You're a tiny, little,
Speaker 1: single celled organism. You love. You loved it once you
Speaker 1: experienced your first cell, you were like, I'm in as.
Speaker 6: Soon as I came out of my dad loved it.
Speaker 1: I love that, man. That's awesome.
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 6: So what is this? What is this? I've never heard
Speaker 6: of this?
Speaker 1: This is this?
Speaker 5: Is this?
Speaker 10: Is?
Speaker 1: This is this?
Speaker 6: I heard him say podcast? Podcast?
Speaker 1: This is Yeah, it's a podcast. It's it's it's this.
Speaker 1: It's where I'm talking to you. You're talking to me.
Speaker 1: We're alive. We were both once come and now we
Speaker 1: miraculously have the ability to hold microphones and communicate with
Speaker 1: each other. You've lived a different life than I have
Speaker 1: than have any of the other people walking around in here,
Speaker 1: and we're communicating our experiences of being come.
Speaker 6: So what is this about?
Speaker 1: It's about you, It's about me. It's about life. What
Speaker 1: is your name? Was again?
Speaker 6: Michael?
Speaker 1: Michael? Michael? What is your life like? Man? What do
Speaker 1: you do? You say? You love life? What's your life like?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Are you in school? Are you working?
Speaker 1: Are you walking around?
Speaker 15: I work two jobs, and I'm also in school. I
Speaker 15: work for the Nature Conservancy and I also work for
Speaker 15: Regal Cinemas. Okay, and I'm also in school. I'm an
Speaker 15: accounting major.
Speaker 1: Oh nice. Yeah, I want to ask about all three
Speaker 1: of those things. I'm gonna start with the movie theater.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the premiere of the Minions. How much
Speaker 1: popcorn did you have to clean up off the floor?
Speaker 6: A lot? Okay, anytime a movie premiere is it's a lot.
Speaker 15: It's a lot to deal with deep perks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 15: I get free movies.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: Time.
Speaker 1: Are you like, are you a centophile? No? Okay, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. Are you Are you enthusiast of anything
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Money?
Speaker 1: Enthusiast of money? Yeah, I'll go while you're an accountant,
Speaker 1: So your money, your whole your whole life is gonna
Speaker 1: be about counting money.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be about money. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is it about money that is so enthusiastic towards it?
Speaker 6: Gives you freedom?
Speaker 1: So let's say you had all the money in the world,
Speaker 1: Let's sell you just what what to you is an
Speaker 1: amount of money where if you reached it, you'd be like,
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm chilling, I'm free.
Speaker 6: Thirty million.
Speaker 1: Let's say you had thirty million. Yeah, what are we
Speaker 1: doing on Wednesday? What's the day of your life? Like
Speaker 1: you thirty million dollars?
Speaker 15: In thirty million, Well, I will never stop working and
Speaker 15: really yeah no, really no.
Speaker 1: You would never stop working even if you have thirty
Speaker 1: million dollars.
Speaker 6: No, why because there's more money to be made.
Speaker 15: And I think complac and see is pretty much the
Speaker 15: death of any man.
Speaker 1: So interesting. Interesting, So at that point when you have
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars but you want to keep working because
Speaker 1: you don't want to be complacent, it feels like it's
Speaker 1: less about the money and like I want a bigger yad,
Speaker 1: I want a larger house, and more about just you know,
Speaker 1: you like the grind.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's both like you could want more things and
Speaker 15: you can also just like the grind because you don't
Speaker 15: want to, you know, get lazy. I mean you could
Speaker 15: pursue other things. You could pursue the gym. You know,
Speaker 15: you'll have freedom to have time to do that. But
Speaker 15: also like, dude, if I had thirty million dollars, I'll
Speaker 15: tell you what I would do, honestly, pa, honestly place
Speaker 15: So I just made thirty million dollars, automatically buy a house,
Speaker 15: buy all that shit.
Speaker 6: Right then we're clubbing, you.
Speaker 15: Know, we're hanging out with models, we're in the Bugatti Lambo,
Speaker 15: we're having a great time, and we just wake up
Speaker 15: in a different country, like and I even in a
Speaker 15: different state, different country.
Speaker 1: You know. People like to say this, They like to
Speaker 1: be like, well, one day, you know, hedonic treadmill, you'll
Speaker 1: get sick of the models, You'll get sick of the cars,
Speaker 1: You'll get sick of the country. Is never No, No,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't get sick of it. I think it'd be awesome.
Speaker 6: That's what people who don't have the money saying.
Speaker 1: I think I think that sounds pretty cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you hope to get there one day?
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, what does the path there look like?
Speaker 15: The path is working extreme, Like, just keep working hard, investing.
Speaker 6: I don't get tired.
Speaker 15: So that's why I work two jobs, and I also
Speaker 15: go to school because I don't feel I feel a
Speaker 15: lot of energy all the time.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's an interesting thing. You're you're on your grinds.
Speaker 1: You're working on all these jobs. But to you, like,
Speaker 1: you do not get tired. Do you not get like
Speaker 1: stressed out from the grind? Do you not burn out
Speaker 1: at all? No, you're just wired differently.
Speaker 15: Yeah, because I don't see it as a chore. I
Speaker 15: see it towards I see it as like I must
Speaker 15: do it in order to get to.
Speaker 1: Where I want to be interesting.
Speaker 15: And let's say I got a job at the bank
Speaker 15: making thirty an hour, nine.
Speaker 6: To five, right, I would literally go.
Speaker 15: I would still go to my regal job immediately after
Speaker 15: and work six to eleven interesting, fifteen.
Speaker 1: Interesting, and and and there's no like pain points to
Speaker 1: any of this. You never are like at the end
Speaker 1: of you know, a six am to two am day
Speaker 1: and you're like fucking fuck, or the whole time you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm in and I'm alive. We're grinded.
Speaker 15: No, if it was like six to two, obviously I'd
Speaker 15: be tired. But I need to do what I have
Speaker 15: to do regardless of how I feel.
Speaker 1: So have you always been this way or is this
Speaker 1: something that you you adapted at some point in your life.
Speaker 15: I think after high school. I'm twenty two, I'm about
Speaker 15: to be twenty two in like a month. So I've
Speaker 15: been in college for four years now almost. I think
Speaker 15: after high school I adapted that.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you kind of like could you pin
Speaker 1: it to anything about what made you make this adaptation?
Speaker 6: Being poor?
Speaker 15: So yeah, realizing that, like, yeah, just people around me, like,
Speaker 15: if you're lazy, you're.
Speaker 6: Not gonna get anything done.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, Now, tell me about like your personal life, friends,
Speaker 1: family are. Do they share a similar mindset to you?
Speaker 15: Or try to surround myself with people who do. Okay,
Speaker 15: if they don't, I still love them, but my soul.
Speaker 1: Tell me about your family, like your parents. Do you
Speaker 1: have siblings too? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I have a sister. She's very smart.
Speaker 1: Okay, she like you with with wanting to grind a lot.
Speaker 15: No, but she's like she's taking a simple path, like
Speaker 15: go to school, do what you have to do. She's
Speaker 15: not she's not hyperactive, like she's not trying to be
Speaker 15: like I'm gonna work two jobs, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 15: School'm gonna run a business, this and this and that.
Speaker 6: But she's like, all right, I'm gonna just go to school,
Speaker 6: do what I.
Speaker 15: Have to do, and it should work right because our
Speaker 15: system is set up that way, like.
Speaker 6: If you do what you have to do, you know
Speaker 6: you don't have to be comfortable.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 6: You know, it's not that hard to lift comfortably.
Speaker 15: But if you want to go beyond that, then it
Speaker 15: does get That's where it gets difficult.
Speaker 1: Parents, what would you say there?
Speaker 15: Philosophy is my dad same thing, hard worker, was a
Speaker 15: court officer.
Speaker 6: My mom's a good mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what about your friends? Like did you have
Speaker 1: did you when you said you made that adaptation right?
Speaker 15: Like, can I make a shout out real quick? Rush rush? Yeah,
Speaker 15: there's no there's no better fraternity, So just rush capisig
Speaker 15: shout out to my friends?
Speaker 1: Are those those? Are those are your homies when you're
Speaker 1: when you have your private island and you're having your
Speaker 1: big party, all the brothers from.
Speaker 6: Automatically no matter.
Speaker 1: Did you have ye friends from high school? Well you
Speaker 1: had to not ditch because you love them, but limit
Speaker 1: your time with them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was something I had to straight up ditch.
Speaker 1: Is that hard?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: No? No, okay? Did you have was it like a
Speaker 1: was it a straight up ghost or did you have
Speaker 1: a conversation with them where you're like, listen, I'm on
Speaker 1: my grind. I don't got time for you anymore.
Speaker 15: So I always try to converse with them first, like
Speaker 15: I always be like, yo, you know, you're not living
Speaker 15: up to your full potential something along those lines. And
Speaker 15: if they're just like okay, or they just you know,
Speaker 15: keep doing what they're doing, sure, then no, you know
Speaker 15: that's it.
Speaker 1: What's your name again?
Speaker 6: Michael?
Speaker 1: Michael? All right? So you understand what this is now?
Speaker 1: Kind of just talking about stuff.
Speaker 6: Talking shit, stalking shit exactly.
Speaker 1: Thanks for being a part of this even though you
Speaker 1: don't know what it is.
Speaker 6: I don't have no idea. I heard there's a thing
Speaker 6: later tonight.
Speaker 1: There is a thing later tonight. I'm doing a show
Speaker 1: tonight at the Bell House. You're going, yeah, you're going, yes?
Speaker 6: Can I come?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It No, it's not free full.
Speaker 6: How much do I have to pay togain?
Speaker 1: It's thirty dollars.
Speaker 6: That's not that's not too bad.
Speaker 1: It's not too bad, right, Michael? Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say? The people in the computer before
Speaker 1: you just kept sick. Thanks for talking to a get
Speaker 1: go man. Hope to see you tonight Bell House, seven thirty.
Speaker 1: Were you with Jade earlier? I was, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a really cool interview. I loved her energy. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that she's got a new Okay, did you know
Speaker 1: the guy I did?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, what's from your I want to talk about you,
Speaker 1: but just on the top line, what was your perspective
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 9: From my perspective?
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, he was a great guy, and it just
Speaker 8: came out of nowhere, like he he was like a
Speaker 8: big brother to me, you know, because it's only me
Speaker 8: and my sister. She's my only sibling, and he I
Speaker 8: just felt like he just completely tricked everyone.
Speaker 4: Really, it came out of.
Speaker 1: Nowhere really really, and it's.
Speaker 8: Sad, you know, because she's she has so much love
Speaker 8: to give and to see her kind of close up
Speaker 8: like that and distance herself, yeah.
Speaker 9: Because she deserves love. Everyone does.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I I mean I'm really happy for her
Speaker 1: because I could see, like just in her face when
Speaker 1: she was talking about how excited she is to like
Speaker 1: have been like it sounds like it was a roller
Speaker 1: coaster of like devastation but then like I got a
Speaker 1: new life to live and I'm excited about it and
Speaker 1: I'm staked for her. Well let's get into you. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is your name?
Speaker 9: My name is Isabella.
Speaker 1: Isabella. Very nice to meet you to What are you
Speaker 1: all about?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 9: So I need some advice?
Speaker 1: I'll try my best.
Speaker 9: So Okay. So I'm in a new relationship.
Speaker 8: Okay, We've been talking for a few months and we
Speaker 8: just made it official recently.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 8: And So I was really hurt years ago in a
Speaker 8: past relationship, and I feel like in a way I
Speaker 8: still have a guard up and I feel like.
Speaker 9: He's a great guy.
Speaker 8: He really is, but I feel like it's hard for
Speaker 8: me to give myself to him and to completely let
Speaker 8: him in.
Speaker 7: What do you think that is?
Speaker 9: I feel like I'm so scared to be hurt again.
Speaker 1: Were you you were hurt in the past?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can I kind of ask like a top line of
Speaker 1: what machining?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 15: Sure?
Speaker 10: Sure?
Speaker 1: Huh? What is there?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 1: Could you describe kind of like the aspect of yourself
Speaker 1: that you're afraid to show.
Speaker 8: I feel like I can't like fully express my feelings
Speaker 8: to him because he's a very affectionate guy.
Speaker 9: Okay, and it's hard for me to like reciprocate yu.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you and like this naturally like to your core?
Speaker 1: Are you an affectionate person as well, I.
Speaker 8: Used to be, but then in my past relationship, I
Speaker 8: like close that part of myself off.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now now, like okay, looking past that. I know
Speaker 1: you said you close that part of yourself off, but
Speaker 1: like you thinking about yourself and how you in this
Speaker 1: life want to connect with other people. What do you
Speaker 1: believe for yourself is the best way to do it?
Speaker 8: Just expressing yourself without I feel like I have too much.
Speaker 1: Pride, okay, okay.
Speaker 9: And I feel like I just need to look past
Speaker 9: that because I like.
Speaker 1: To me, you know, I know you had this past
Speaker 1: experience with this guy, and I know you're kind of
Speaker 1: like you know, your your your guard is up a
Speaker 1: little bit because of the things that happened in the past.
Speaker 1: But like throwing all of that away and just looking
Speaker 1: clearly at what you believe is the right way to
Speaker 1: approach this. Whatever you see is I think what you
Speaker 1: should follow if you, you know, can summon the courage too.
Speaker 1: I know it's hard.
Speaker 8: Yeah, just I feel like I just need to be
Speaker 8: myself and whatever happens happened.
Speaker 1: What's going on in the rest of your life? Man?
Speaker 1: You what are you studying.
Speaker 9: I'm studying criminal justice. I live in Florida. But I'm
Speaker 9: moving back to New York.
Speaker 8: I've been here like twelve times in the past, like
Speaker 8: six months.
Speaker 1: Do you like Do you like New York battle in Florida?
Speaker 8: So I grew up here in New York and I
Speaker 8: went to college in Florida for a year, and I'm
Speaker 8: ready to come home.
Speaker 1: What What do you like better about New York than Florida?
Speaker 9: I feel like Florida. It's just it's a party all
Speaker 9: the time.
Speaker 1: Okay are you not? Are you not a party person?
Speaker 8: I used to be, but I'm I feel burnt out
Speaker 8: from all the party Okay, Miami and everything.
Speaker 1: Does any ounce of you miss the partying?
Speaker 8: I do, But I feel like it's time to time
Speaker 8: to chill out a little bit.
Speaker 1: What what do you hope for the future? What kind
Speaker 1: of life do you want to live?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 9: Go to law school? Okay, hopefully fordam or n y.
Speaker 1: U amazing, amazing campus today, amazing.
Speaker 9: You know, just being happy it's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: So with law, like what's the underlying thing? Like the
Speaker 1: philosophy that you have, that that you makes you feel
Speaker 1: like it's an important thing for you to do.
Speaker 9: I just want to help people.
Speaker 8: I like that I like, I want, I want to
Speaker 8: just make sure everybody's you know, good, and.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, back to sort of this issue
Speaker 1: you were having with this relationship, Like, was there anything
Speaker 1: you learned from observing what was going on with your
Speaker 1: sister that like informed your take on what's going on
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 8: I think that kind of also made me rethink myself. Sure,
Speaker 8: and you know, put that guard back up a little
Speaker 8: bit more because of this guy she was with just
Speaker 8: completely you thought he was such a good guy.
Speaker 1: And then he's just yeah, sure, So now you got
Speaker 1: like two examples yeah, floating around.
Speaker 9: You know, this guy I'm with now, he's a great guy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's not right for me for me to
Speaker 8: do anything bad to him.
Speaker 9: You know, he doesn't deserve that.
Speaker 1: Dude. It's hard. I'm like, I'm no expert any of
Speaker 1: the ship, but it's like to me, i'd like to think,
Speaker 1: I'd like to think for me, I'm like with my
Speaker 1: relationships to other people, it's like if a person, if
Speaker 1: I put my us into a person and they fucked
Speaker 1: me over, it's okay. You know, I'm putting my trust
Speaker 1: into them knowing full well that that could happen, and
Speaker 1: if it does happen, that's okay. I signed those terms
Speaker 1: and conditions, so be it. You know, I'll move on.
Speaker 1: I got because I'm trying to act from like a
Speaker 1: foundation of like I got myself. I mean all the
Speaker 1: shit that your sister was saying of like I got myself.
Speaker 1: I got my own foundation. I know what's going on,
Speaker 1: and I'll sign the terms and conditions that are like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: this could go wrong, this could fuck me over, but
Speaker 1: I'm going and knowing that, and if it happens, I'll
Speaker 1: move on. I'll live life. I got a well rounded
Speaker 1: thing going on and okay, yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: What is your name again?
Speaker 9: Isabella?
Speaker 1: Isabella? Thank you very much for talking to me. Tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she is around, but tell her.
Speaker 1: I said thank you again.
Speaker 9: Could I give myself a shout out?
Speaker 1: Of course? Is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the computer before.
Speaker 9: We got Word of the day. It's a quote.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love to hear it.
Speaker 9: Okay, So I saw this on TikTok.
Speaker 8: It's like, don't wait because you'll never truly be ready
Speaker 8: for anything.
Speaker 1: This is true. This is very true. I feel like
Speaker 1: if you're waiting around, waiting to be ready. You never
Speaker 1: will be never. The future does not come. There is
Speaker 1: only now.
Speaker 9: That's very true.
Speaker 8: Okay, So my Instagram is Isabella q o k e
Speaker 8: og hh Isabella.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you very much for talking to a get Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you man, you coming to the show. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: see you around in the universe, folks. This has been
Speaker 1: being a gecko in New York City. Thank you all
Speaker 1: for watching. This was an awesome episode. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: there's so many things. I gotta go back and and
Speaker 1: watch this one. This is one of the best ones
Speaker 1: of these that we've ever done, so many cool stories.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm every time I do this, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, because we normally do the phone calls, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I feel like because people are anonymous
Speaker 1: on the phone, that's gonna make them more willing to
Speaker 1: share stuff about their lives than if they're here in person.
Speaker 1: And every time I do this, I'm I'm amazed, I'm touched.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that people will come here and they with
Speaker 1: their face to the world, share shit that's going on
Speaker 1: with them, and it's awesome. And I appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: for watching and I'll see you around the universe. Ghat
Speaker 1: bless you all.