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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the NFL Report. This

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Speaker 1: Thursday is Slammed Steve White. We have Roddy McCloud of

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Speaker 1: the number one, maybe best defense in football to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns their safety. We also have Kurt Warner joining us

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Speaker 1: in a few minutes to talk about the red zone

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Speaker 1: issues across the NFL. Also, we have issues with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: star quarterbacks, with new play callers, and Baldy's favorite film, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: This is massive today.

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Speaker 4: It's so great because you know, we are really taking

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Speaker 4: a deep dive on some stuff and we got the

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Speaker 4: smart people like Kurt and Baldy and us here and

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Speaker 4: Rodney McLeod I'm so looking forward to this because he

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Speaker 4: played for Jim Schwartz and Philly.

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Speaker 3: He's playing for him.

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Speaker 4: Now in Cleveland. He's playing well. This defense is playing well.

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Speaker 4: I really want to get to the science of that.

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Speaker 4: But James, before we kind of dig into this, you

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Speaker 4: and your wife Meg last night you're tell us that

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Speaker 4: you went to go.

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Speaker 3: See Tina the Tina Turner Muscle. You gotta shine a

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Speaker 3: little light on that.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, keeping my wife, I mean she's only five three,

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Speaker 1: but keeping her in one spot. During Tina the Musical,

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Speaker 1: I mean impossible. I mean the place was rocking. She

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Speaker 1: even comes out. She sounded just like Tina turn She

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Speaker 1: comes out after everybody. You know, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a it's everybody comes out in the cast, takes

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Speaker 1: their bow, and then she plays multiple songs as Tina Turner.

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Speaker 2: After the musical was over. It was incredible. It was great.

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Speaker 4: That's absolutely that's absolutely spectacular that you got to enjoy

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Speaker 4: like that. Look at I'm old enough to remember when

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Speaker 4: you know, Tina was with Ike and we're rolling down

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Speaker 4: the river and things like that. But here's a dope

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Speaker 4: little nugget just to cap off this light conversation. In

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Speaker 4: my neighborhood here in Los Angeles where Tina and Ike lived,

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Speaker 4: their house is about twelve houses for hours now. Somebody

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Speaker 4: actually put a fence, put a couple fences, put a

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Speaker 4: that kind of sucks, but we can claim the fame

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Speaker 4: of that house is in our neighborhood. But JP won

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Speaker 4: a Tina Turner's biggest songs was What's love got.

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Speaker 3: To do with it? Which leads us to our first

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Speaker 3: love conversation? He played it last night, Yes, what leads

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Speaker 3: us to this?

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Speaker 4: So Tyreek Hill, he's putting up MVP type numbers right,

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Speaker 4: not quarterback, but he is absolutely that guy.

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Speaker 3: But what's love got to do with it? Is what

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Speaker 3: he said?

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Speaker 4: Because I was getting down in Kansas City a couple

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Speaker 4: of years ago, but now I'm here in Miami putting.

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Speaker 3: Up baller baller type numbers? Did Tyreek Hill?

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Speaker 4: When you look at the individual accomplishments he's having, did

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Speaker 4: he actually make a good choice leaving Kansas City for Miami?

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Speaker 2: I think he did, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think he left Patrick Mahomes and a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame coach and Andy Reid and he made a very

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Speaker 1: smart and good decision.

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Speaker 2: Steve.

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Speaker 1: Now everybody's Kansas City is probably thinking, I'm completely nuts.

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Speaker 2: Why would you leave those two? Well?

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Speaker 1: I look at it from this angle, he was ever

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Speaker 1: going to be the highest paid receiver in NFL history

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Speaker 1: if he stayed in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: He had a chance to do that.

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Speaker 1: So financially he made out like a bandit with I

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Speaker 1: believe seventy two million dollars in this He has a

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Speaker 1: home family in Miami. It's a great place he wants

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Speaker 1: to be. But I think this is the part why

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Speaker 1: I think it was a smart decision, because he didn't

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Speaker 1: just leave those two Steve, he went to a situation

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Speaker 1: has found a way to be more creative with Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Kill than Andy Reid was. They've used him in so

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Speaker 1: many different ways. He's flourishing in this offense. And the

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Speaker 1: last part about it, and we can talk about this

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Speaker 1: opening statement, Steve, this sounds like kind of like a

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Speaker 1: he has turned the Miami Dolphins into a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: That's impressive.

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Speaker 4: So now I'm going to come in from my cross

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Speaker 4: of the witness. Yes, Tyreek Hill got paid. Yes, he's

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Speaker 4: going to a beautiful place. Kansas is a beautiful place.

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Speaker 4: But last night checked, the Chiefs won a super Bowl

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Speaker 4: without him, Right, last night checked, did you know? They're

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Speaker 4: still doing great things. They're still the team that is

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Speaker 4: the most feared in the AFC. Now, I will give

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Speaker 4: Tyreek his props individually and personally. I think Robert he

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Speaker 4: because of what they're doing offensively. He's the feature guy

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Speaker 4: which is what we were saying about the Chiefs when

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Speaker 3: First took over.

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Speaker 2: Was Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. It's Travis Kensy, a

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Speaker 4: He was more of the gadget guy, Kancie the running back,

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Speaker 3: But there was nothing wrong with that, right.

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Speaker 4: We do know people have, you know, wide receivers, especially

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Speaker 4: He's getting the ball and he's doing things that are

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Speaker 4: absolutely incredible. But that said, to leave Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 4: potential super Bowls and Miami's a Super Bowl contender, no

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Speaker 4: denying that. I just think this is an interesting discussion

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Speaker 4: touchdowns on the season, all their wide receievers combined, Tyreek's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: This is a win win, And then that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the interesting part about this. Everybody was curious. I think

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs thought, Okay, maybe Tyreek Hill's getting older, he's

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Speaker 1: going to lose a step. Maybe he'll have one successful

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Speaker 2: He's not slowing down.

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Speaker 1: No, He's on pace for what two three hundred and

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Speaker 1: six receiving yards. That's what he's on pace for right now.

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Speaker 1: He has more yards in the modern era through six

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Speaker 1: means he won a Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes in

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Speaker 2: A super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They went to the postseason last year for the first

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Speaker 1: And remember, he put up more yards last year in

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Speaker 1: over seventeen hundred yards. He also played with Skyler Thompson, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that we are both definitely behind and Spirit Day essentially

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Speaker 1: for taking the pledge against bullying while supporting LGBTQ youth

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Speaker 1: who are victims of discrimination.

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Speaker 2: As rhetoric and violence against.

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Speaker 1: The LGBTQ community escalates, we want to focus on allyships

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Speaker 2: As football is for everyone, will I try to be

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Speaker 5: Some general deserve to be loved no matter what their

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Speaker 7: Who you are.

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Speaker 5: Their rights, their existence in their lives matter and they

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Speaker 1: This year, on Spirit.

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Speaker 6: LGBTQ plus youth because it's never been more important to

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Speaker 7: Lead by example, be and ally.

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Speaker 2: Just like football's for everyone.

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Speaker 4: Respect just for everyone too, no matter where you come

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Speaker 7: Now more than.

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Speaker 1: Ever, let's support each other like we support our teams.

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Speaker 5: It's time to stand up and show our spirit together together.

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Speaker 2: Just awesome.

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of conversations about that topic with

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Speaker 1: de Johndre Hopkins over the years. Now, when we move

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Speaker 1: on Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer joining the show,

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Speaker 1: three big name quarterbacks Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Holmes,

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Speaker 1: midst that they're familiar with. But there's still some struggles

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Speaker 1: who Warner answers?

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Speaker 2: Why next.

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Speaker 7: Have to throw?

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Speaker 3: Is Hurst looks left, Bros Left, It's in.

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Speaker 2: A SEP kid picked off running right.

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Speaker 3: Tony Adams, He's it's out. At twenty five, he breaks

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Speaker 2: They're gonna let him start. It's the Chests twenty and

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Speaker 2: the Eagles fourteen.

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Speaker 4: The Jets can go to victory formation if they can

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Speaker 2: Why here we go? Well protected? Looks left, keeps a

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Speaker 3: The middle of the field and Is Bloak it up.

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Speaker 3: Thats Onde in a white head.

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Speaker 2: The Jets are gonna win it. What a day for

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Speaker 2: the Jets defense.

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Speaker 4: All right back in the NFL Report, James, we are

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Speaker 4: now joined by Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt

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Speaker 4: Warner MVP super Bowl Champion, and Kurt you we wanted

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Speaker 4: to bring you on because we're seeing we just heard

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Speaker 4: video and saw a video of Jalen Hurt and Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 3: Year, guys who were on their staffs. That's the caveat.

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Speaker 3: But things have not been soepy smooth of the transition.

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Speaker 3: And just your overall thoughts.

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Speaker 8: Always, growth that has to happen, and you know, again

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Speaker 3: He was on the staff, went to Chicago, came back.

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Speaker 3: There is there a difference when there's a different voice doing.

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Speaker 8: I think anytime you have different voices, it can be disruptive.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Sean Payton about this this week. You know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you see that somethings are playing the big dime

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'm never a fan of the fade

442
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Speaker 8: route in general, no matter where you're at on the field,

443
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Speaker 8: especially if you're seeing press coverage, because it's kind of

444
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Speaker 8: all or nothing. Now, I will say, if you have

445
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Speaker 8: that guy like I had Larry Fitzgerald. We threw a

446
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Speaker 8: lot more fades with Larry Fitzgerald than we did with

447
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Speaker 8: anybody else that I played with. So if you have

448
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Speaker 8: that guy, great, we can pack it in. We can

449
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Speaker 8: get into a run set where we put you know,

450
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Speaker 8: ten guys inside the box where I get one on

451
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Speaker 8: one on the outside, and I believe that guy can

452
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Speaker 8: win every single time. Yes, it makes football easier one

453
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Speaker 8: on one, my guy better than your guy, But how

454
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Speaker 8: many of those guys are out there, not that they're

455
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Speaker 8: not good players, but good at being able to play

456
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Speaker 8: the football in the air, the back shoulder, the high point,

457
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Speaker 8: being able to go up and steal it from a

458
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Speaker 8: defensive back. It's not as simple as, hey, I got

459
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Speaker 8: a really good wide receiver. Do I have a really

460
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Speaker 8: good wide receiver that tracks the football really really well

461
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Speaker 8: and can make a contested catch more times than not,

462
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Speaker 8: because otherwise it's just you're throwing up, You're taking a

463
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Speaker 8: chance there's contact over there. If that guy can't make

464
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Speaker 8: that catch most of the time, to me, a lot

465
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Speaker 8: of times it becomes a wasted play, even down tied

466
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Speaker 8: in the red zone.

467
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Speaker 2: Real quick.

468
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Speaker 1: This is the last one I have for your Kirk,

469
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Speaker 1: because I wanted to squeeze this one. In talking to

470
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Speaker 1: a couple of scouts with teams, this came up with,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, a couple different guys with different teams, So

472
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Speaker 1: this kind of was fascinating to me. It was vertical routes.

473
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Speaker 1: So much of teams playbooks are full of vertical routes

474
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Speaker 1: that they just cannot use when they get down there

475
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Speaker 1: in that red zone portion, And a lot of that

476
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Speaker 1: success is with the opposite of what you just said. Smaller,

477
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Speaker 1: speedier receivers that they create these spaces in a larger

478
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Speaker 1: part of the field. Are you seeing that there might

479
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Speaker 1: be with today's concepts and all those vertical routes, a

480
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Speaker 1: smaller section of your playbook that you can use or

481
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Speaker 1: a part you lose or you lose more now than

482
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Speaker 1: you used to of your playbook down the red zone.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, me, you definitely lose. You know, you definitely have

484
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Speaker 8: specific plays down for the red zone. But James, one

485
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Speaker 8: of my biggest pet peeve is when I see quarterback

486
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Speaker 8: coordinators called the all go route from the ten yard

487
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Speaker 8: line because it's like, man, there's bodies everywhere, it's tough,

488
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Speaker 8: you're just taking a chance. I always took the philosophy

489
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Speaker 8: when I got to the red zone that instead of

490
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Speaker 8: trying to throw it over them or trying to throw

491
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Speaker 8: it into the end zone, I tried to complete balls

492
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Speaker 8: that were safe balls, complete balls that were at the

493
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Speaker 8: five yard line and force the defense to tackle instead

494
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Speaker 8: of trying to throw it over the top of them

495
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Speaker 8: and make the perfect throw. And so just the mentality

496
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Speaker 8: by which you play down there, for me, change get completions,

497
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Speaker 8: force them to have to do something defensively instead of

498
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Speaker 8: me having to make the perfect throw up over the top,

499
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Speaker 8: you know, before my guy ran out of bounds or

500
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Speaker 8: into those tight windows. I just think the philosophy has

501
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Speaker 8: to change sometimes, and the best teams are the ones

502
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Speaker 8: that complete passes and put the pressure back on the defense.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Kurt, we can't thank you enough for like shedding

504
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Speaker 3: some insight because we're getting.

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Speaker 2: It to make it sound easy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right.

507
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Speaker 4: These red zone numbers now are almost historically low. I

508
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Speaker 4: got almost fifty percent touched conversions, So thanks for shedding

509
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Speaker 4: a little bit of light on that, Kurt. Also, Kurt,

510
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Speaker 4: as you get out of here, Jimmy Glandkert not playing

511
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Speaker 4: Sunday against the Bears.

512
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Speaker 3: He has been ruled out. We come back.

513
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Speaker 4: We're gonna get an inside take from Brown safety Rodney

514
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Speaker 4: McLeod on defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and the method to

515
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Speaker 4: the Nash Neiss.

516
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Speaker 3: Going on in Cleveland with their defense.

517
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Speaker 2: Tolie, snap this down, the kick is up, the kick.

518
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Speaker 9: Is good, It's no good, and the Browns will beats

519
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Speaker 9: the forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Ers nineteen to seventeen. He pushed it wide to the right.

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Speaker 4: That was Andrew Ciliano of NFL Network on the radio

522
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Speaker 4: call for the Cleveland Browns is they knock off the

523
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Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers, handing their first loss. We

524
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Speaker 4: are now joined by Brown safety Rodney McCleod running first off, Rodney,

525
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Speaker 4: I got you see James Palmer wearing the Eagles jersey.

526
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Speaker 4: We don't want any offense because he is an imposing team.

527
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Speaker 3: But your thoughts on him wearing the Kelly Green.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got.

529
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Speaker 9: Everybody knows I forever Lee Green won a Super Bowl.

530
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Speaker 7: There got a lot of respect there.

531
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Speaker 9: We go my Philly brothers over there, and Jaila is

532
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Speaker 9: a good friend of mine, so much respect.

533
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Speaker 7: Much respect, man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you would have liked to wear the Kelly Green

535
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Speaker 1: at some point though.

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Speaker 2: They're pretty sharp. I mean, I was, I was.

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Speaker 9: I was one of the guys who were trying to

538
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Speaker 9: persuade Lurie to get that going.

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Speaker 7: I guess I guess we didn't. We didn't have guys

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Speaker 7: to do so.

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Speaker 4: But right, okay, okay, all right, we're gonna pivot because

542
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Speaker 4: you're wearing the orange, were in the brown. And by

543
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Speaker 4: the way, the all white unis with the white helmets

544
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Speaker 4: are the sweetest ones that you guys have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully really liked that.

546
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Speaker 4: But right, let's talk about that win, because once again,

547
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Speaker 4: your defense absolutely dominated. He dominated a team that had

548
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Speaker 4: averaged more than thirty points a game. What did you

549
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Speaker 4: do in that game to just absolutely shut them down

550
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Speaker 4: and constantly harassed quarterback Rock Party?

551
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Speaker 7: It really came.

552
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Speaker 9: Down to heart, I would say, just our willingness to

553
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Speaker 9: never quit, to nod back down.

554
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Speaker 7: And we understood the challenge that we were up against.

555
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Speaker 9: Knowing that they had, you know, number one offense coming

556
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Speaker 9: into a Sunday's game. They had a stout defense, and

557
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Speaker 9: we felt shownly about our defense as well. You know,

558
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Speaker 9: we talked about it all week. How you know, it

559
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Speaker 9: would take everything that we had.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's a.

561
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Speaker 9: Fight, scratch, crawl type of game, and that's what it

562
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Speaker 9: was from start to finish. You know, if you turned

563
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Speaker 9: away from you know, your TV screens, you were bound

564
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Speaker 9: to miss something.

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Speaker 7: But it's a very physical game.

566
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Speaker 9: You know, I'm proud of our guys for fighting, playing

567
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Speaker 9: complimary football and just you know, really defending our home turf,

568
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Speaker 9: you know, till it's fullest. You know, there was a

569
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Speaker 9: lot going on prior to that game, but fa that

570
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Speaker 9: we took care of business in the white lines.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask that, Roddy, but you went right

572
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Speaker 1: to it.

573
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Speaker 2: What happened pregame? What I'm curious about.

574
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Speaker 1: You've been in this league for a long time when

575
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Speaker 1: something like that happens pregame, and I know all of

576
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Speaker 1: you guys have kind of talked about it since postgame yesterday.

577
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Speaker 1: On Monday, I was all kind of talked about. You

578
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Speaker 1: took some offense to it, But I'm curious what happens

579
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Speaker 1: on the sideline after something like that. Do you use

580
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Speaker 1: it to start the game, do you channel it or

581
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Speaker 1: do you have to like block it out and regroup.

582
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Speaker 1: What's kind of the mentality after something like that pre game?

583
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Speaker 9: Yeah, the emotions on both sides were very high. I

584
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 9: think everybody understood what they were getting themselves involved with

585
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 9: on that Sunday game. Both teams are very physical, and

586
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Speaker 9: you know, we were obviously, you know, desperate for a

587
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 9: win and San Franz was trying to continue all with

588
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Speaker 9: their street. But I think when you have something like

589
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Speaker 9: that take place before the game, you know you really

590
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 9: have to kind of regroup and breathe and sure that

591
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Speaker 9: going into that game now you know it's more of

592
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Speaker 9: a controlled aggressions as you go into it, because like

593
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 9: I said, emotions are already high, and you don't want

594
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Speaker 9: that to affect you know, your level of play and

595
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 9: allow that to to steer you lose focus in any

596
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 9: way or do things that are just uncharacteristic to be

597
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Speaker 9: able to hurt your team.

598
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Speaker 4: Roddie, I, I've always wondered this, and I don't know

599
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Speaker 4: why I've never asked anybody this. Your quarterback is down here,

600
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Speaker 4: you know PJ. Walker's playing. It's your third quarterback you've

601
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Speaker 4: played with this season. Do you as a defense have

602
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: to say anything to one another or as a group

603
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: or whatever, we've got to step up and make up

604
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 4: for what could be lacking on offense or is it

605
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Speaker 4: something that's kind of inherently part of your guys, DNA,

606
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Speaker 4: It's about.

607
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Speaker 9: Our idea every time we leave our last lide that

608
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 9: we leave any meeting on is set the pace. We

609
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 9: talk about, you know, really setting the pace for the team, Uh,

610
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 9: send the pace for the game. Whatever it is we

611
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 9: feel like defensively, it's our duty, it's our obligation, uh

612
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Speaker 9: to to ensure that we do everything at the highest standard.

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Speaker 7: And and so.

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Speaker 9: Uh, they're there there there's never really anything that's uh

615
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 9: surprising to us. I guess, uh you know we're out

616
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 9: for every challenge that uh you know we're a face against.

617
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Speaker 1: All Right, Roddie, you know your defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz

618
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: better than anybody else in that locker room. You spent

619
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Speaker 1: a bunch of years with him in Philly before I

620
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Speaker 1: ask this question, Answer this one first. In one word,

621
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Speaker 1: describe Jim Schwartz real Uh Okay, okay, I like it.

622
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Speaker 7: He likes the brilliance. He's the realists. Man.

623
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Speaker 9: You're going to get Jim Schwartz one thousand percent of

624
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 9: the time, and people asking me to this day, is

625
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 9: he still the same?

626
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 7: Like getting nothing changed about him. He's a confident. He's

627
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 7: a confident.

628
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 9: He wears a swagger on his sleeve. He's passionate, he's fiery.

629
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Speaker 9: He's going to challenge you, he's going to tell you

630
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 9: the honest and brutal truth. But he's going to also

631
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 9: love you up. And he's a very compassionate coach that

632
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 9: cares deeply about his guys.

633
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Speaker 1: With that said, the x's and oh's side of it, Rodney,

634
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Speaker 1: like I remember talking to during training camp with you

635
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: knowing kind of the personnel you had and what can

636
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Speaker 1: happen with this group in what Jim can dial up

637
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: but Arthur maybe places this defense hasn't gone yet that

638
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: you know it can because you know this scheme so

639
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: well and you haven't even gotten there yet because it's new.

640
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 7: Yes, I think that the thing that I think.

641
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Speaker 9: We're searching for is more turnovers. Right, That's something thing

642
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 9: that hasn't necessarily been as consistent as probably we would

643
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 9: like to see on a week to week basis. So

644
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 9: you know, our emphasis there and how we can continue

645
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 9: to give our offense more possessions and you know, I

646
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 9: think they'll naturally come. You know, we say it takes

647
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 9: one to get things going, so I'm hoping that you know,

648
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 9: we can continue on with this streak. You know, mj

649
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 9: Emmerson made a huge interception for us last week, came

650
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 9: at a great point in the game where we needed it,

651
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 9: and hoping that we could have more.

652
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Speaker 7: Of those opportunities coming up this year.

653
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Speaker 4: Brodie, you talked about your affinity for you know, always

654
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Speaker 4: Bleeding Green and Philly, but last year you played with

655
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Speaker 4: the Colts, had a career, had a career and tackles.

656
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Speaker 4: I think last year. It was just absolutely staining your

657
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 4: eleventh season. You're playing again this weekend, and you know

658
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 4: what type of scrappy team they are, you know some

659
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Speaker 4: of the guys there. What do you think the challenge

660
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Speaker 4: is after coming up off of such a an emotionally

661
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Speaker 4: high stakes game like you just played.

662
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's really for us not hearing any

663
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 9: of the noise outside of the building again. You know,

664
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 9: we're going to receive a lot of praise over the

665
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 9: course of this week. You know how we beat you know,

666
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 9: the the Invincibles forty nine ers, and so you can

667
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 9: start to feel yourself when you have some success. And

668
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 9: I talk about it all the time, you have to

669
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 9: you have to treat both impostles the same success and failure.

670
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 9: So for us, it's having a mindset of never being

671
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 9: satisfied going in and understanding like we want to be

672
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 9: able to establish a winning culture and establish and winning culture,

673
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 9: you have to be able to put winning streaks together

674
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 9: and you have to be able to not only win

675
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 9: at home, but you have to win on the role.

676
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 9: So for us, the challenge is going on the role

677
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 9: versus a good Indianapolis team. You know who's coming off

678
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 9: with tough loss, but they beaten some very respectable opponents,

679
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 9: and Shane Stichin has that team playing very well. So

680
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 9: I'm expecting their best and it's going to require a

681
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 9: most best and focused Rodnie.

682
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm curious about this.

683
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Through five games, you guys have given up the fewest

684
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: number of total yards since nineteen seventy one. See, you're

685
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: on pace right now to be the best third down

686
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: team we've seen since that started really getting trapped since

687
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. So if you're an offensive coordinator.

688
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: Put that cap on.

689
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: You got a nice cap on now, but put a

690
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: different cap on as an offensive coordinator and go. When

691
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I look at this defense and I'm preparing for it,

692
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: what am I most concerned about?

693
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: Everywhere?

694
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, honestly, I see, I see no law.

695
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 9: But you know, you got you have to give respect

696
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 9: to this defensive line.

697
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 7: They're at talents a bunch, they wreck.

698
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: You know.

699
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 9: Obviously Miles Garrett gets a lot of the attention as

700
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 9: he deserves. But you know, you look across that D

701
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 9: line room and everybody from Z to oh to you know,

702
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 9: big big Dalvin in the middle, Jordan Uh. You know,

703
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 9: the list goes on Shelby like, there's there's a multitude

704
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 9: of guys who are now stepping in and and now

705
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 9: are also commanding the respect from the offensive line. So

706
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 9: you know if your offensive line like I don't know

707
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 9: what you do, I don't know who you turned to,

708
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 9: who you send the line to, like, I don't know, uh,

709
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 9: And that's and that's we never know until the game happens.

710
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 9: So much credit to those guys for making our job

711
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 9: that much easier in the back end.

712
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: I'd love to see that because our Brian Baldinger, you know,

713
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: he does all those ball these breakdowns, just to the

714
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: great one of your d line completely resetting the line

715
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: of scrimmage over and over. That's a difficult thing against

716
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: that office. Okay, the line of offense. The last question

717
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: before you let you get out of here. I know

718
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: you guys are doing all the Philly love, but I

719
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: know you're a DC area guy from the d m V.

720
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: This weekend is Howard University's homecoming. Why alma mater, Roddy,

721
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: please tell me you the UVA so I know you

722
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 4: were striking.

723
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to a Howard homecoming?

724
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 9: I've never been, man, No, I know I'm waiting till

725
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 9: I'm waiting till I hang it up, till a ten

726
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 9: to one. I know a lot of people obviously who've

727
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 9: attended Howard or just go for the festivities. And when

728
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 9: I was growing up as a kid, that's all you

729
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 9: hearn on the radio is hu how you know homecoming,

730
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 9: Howard homecoming? This, this party's happening, that party's happening, this

731
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 9: celebrity is in town.

732
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 7: So I know how y'all get down. I love it.

733
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: You know how y'all you know, bring.

734
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 9: More exposure to the city, and it's a great place

735
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 9: to be, you know, Chocolate City.

736
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: Man, I love it.

737
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: So you're gonna go when you retire, Rodney, So you're

738
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: in You're twelve now, so what in another five six years,

739
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna have you had your first Howard

740
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: home coming, Right, that's.

741
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 9: What they That's what they're saying. But although the clock

742
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 9: says differently, I love it.

743
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: Well.

744
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Calk also says, we gotta let you run, man, So

745
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: Rodney appreciate it.

746
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: Man.

747
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: We always love chatting with you, whether it's you know,

748
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: a camp or you know, when I we both get

749
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: into Borea or Cleveland. Man, it's great to see you

750
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: hopfull you can get a Browns game in and see

751
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: you in person soon. Appreciate for you joining the show

752
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: man man, I appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

753
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 3: Thanks Roddy.

754
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: Rodney McLeod was a good stuff there on that Brown's defense. Hey, JP,

755
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: you know he's also a trained to become a broadcaster.

756
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: When we're back, it's Brian Balldinger. He's coming to break

757
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 4: it down. And what are the Dolphins doing? That's absolutely

758
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: so unique.

759
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: Back on the NFL Report, Back now on the NFL Report.

760
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: James Palmer Steve, which is Baldy's favorite films, is my

761
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: favorite segment every week, Baldy, I get my popcorn every week.

762
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: It's my chief day. Essentially.

763
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: I love you always day and watch right. You always

764
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: watch our interviews, which I love. What stood out to you, well,

765
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: that conversation with Rodney McLeod, Well.

766
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: I've done Roddy, you know, since he came here. You know,

767
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: he was, you know, like myself. You know, he was

768
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: a free agent to this business and here he is,

769
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: and you know, whatever it is, year eleven or twelve.

770
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to find safeties. If they're hard

771
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: to draft, you have to almost prove yourself and then

772
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: go in free agency before you can prove that you

773
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: can stay healthy, cover the field, you know, not break

774
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: down the back end. The one thing everywhere Rodney goes

775
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: and he teamed with Malcolm Jenkins in Philadelphia and now

776
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: he's with the good group with Grant, Dell Pitton guys

777
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: in Cleveland is you always know if the secondary is

778
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: good by how many explosive plays you surrender. Because the

779
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: plays happen for two reasons, James. Either you miss tackles

780
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: at that position and guys go a long way, or

781
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: you blow coverages. And when you have Rodney mcoud on

782
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: the back end of your defense, neither one of those

783
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: things happen. So I see defenses give up these explosive

784
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: plays all the time. First thing you look to is

785
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: the safeties, like where are they what tackle they miss?

786
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Did they close their eyes to make the tackle? Did

787
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: they blow? Are they doubling you know, the posts when

788
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: they should have been going to the number two? Like

789
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, you just look for the break and you

790
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: just don't see that. You didn't see that in Philadelphia

791
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: and you're not watching it in Cleveland right now. And

792
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: you know he talked about jim Schwartz and playing for Schwartz,

793
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, Jimmy's got a big swag, no doubt. But

794
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: the one thing that Cleveland's always had talent, but man,

795
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: Dad would beat themselves over and over and over again.

796
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: And you just don't see that right now. And that's communication,

797
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: that's coaching, that's guys talking out there on the field.

798
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: So it's it's pleasant to see.

799
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 4: And Baldy, you know what element of that defense because

800
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: I love the fact you brought communication. We saw last

801
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: year just all the blow and stuff on the back end,

802
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: they caught them games. But on the second level, I

803
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: don't think we are talking enough about Joka. Anthony Walker

804
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 4: is a beast and then Obo o'roonkwell what he did

805
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 4: coming over from Houston and the pressure he gives right

806
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 4: next to to the Darius Smith.

807
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: Off that edge.

808
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think their linebacking crew is way underrated.

809
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: I told Jimmy when they signed Okoronko this summer, I said,

810
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: watch out now because the last eight games in Houston

811
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: last year he took off and now he's with he

812
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the lead dog. He's got Zadara's,

813
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: he's got Miles he's got Dalvin. He just has to

814
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: fit in. And so that's there, you know, and Jordan

815
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: Elliott and the other guys up front. But you mentioned

816
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: the linebackers. So that's last week. That's the best game

817
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: I've seen Jeremiah Auso Corromoa played Jay Okay, it's the

818
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: best game I saw play. But part of it was schwartze,

819
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: like they pressed the line of scrimmage, they forced the action.

820
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: You know, McCaffrey wasn't getting these big lanes to run through,

821
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: you know, and they went to Jordan Mason after McCaffrey

822
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: got hurt. You didn't see these big lanes. They couldn't

823
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: get started. They didn't get the second level block, you know.

824
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: And you have to add you know, Sioni Taki taki

825
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: to it. But they have been mixing in blitzes. You

826
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: saw like two pressures from j O k. One led

827
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: to an intentional ground he called one led to a

828
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: sack like you know, timely blitz says in addition to

829
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: the pressure that that front could give you, because they

830
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: here's what Rodney left out of the equation because he

831
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: was trying to be generic with you guys. A little

832
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: bit was they said a lot of teams are afraid

833
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: to press and go press man coverage against San Francisco

834
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: because of all the motion Kyle Shanahan's man meters. They said,

835
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: screw it, We're putting Emerson on on IUK and we're

836
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: gonna put Denzel Ward over here on debo and we're

837
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: gonna man you up. And they manned him up, you know,

838
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: And so they're on the back end, they'll play sticky

839
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: man coverage.

840
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 3: All right, Baldy.

841
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: I love how the Cleveland they're the best defense in

842
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: the NFL Miamie Dolphins.

843
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: Is about the offense in the NFL.

844
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: I mean you say you've noticed something about why it's

845
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 4: working so well.

846
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: Well, I try to that Pop Sports from James, because

847
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: it really is. But like they nobody is running more formations,

848
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: more motions, more missed direction. Like the things that they're doing.

849
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: From a creative standpoint, Steve, we've never seen before.

850
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 7: Now.

851
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: Carolina has got good players on defense, not a great defense,

852
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: but they honestly, it's a game of three card Monty.

853
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: You don't know where the ball is sometimes and so

854
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: when you watch them, it's like, okay, you watch like

855
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: this this play right here, I formation right now, you're

856
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: gonna get this motion coming across, and it looks like

857
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: it's just like literally, you know, an outside zone play.

858
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: And then you go back and let's watch what they did,

859
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: because there comes to the tight end Durham Smithe he's

860
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: coming in motion right, all right, I mean alec Ingold

861
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: in motion die formation. Now here comes Durham Smithe to

862
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: tight end, all right, he comes to the other side. Okay,

863
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: now let's see what that does. Watch Austin Jackson, number

864
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: seventy three, he's gonna go up and pick off the

865
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: inside linebacker here all right. Now he's got a hat

866
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: on a hack. Now let's back it up. Now watch

867
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: what Durham Smithe does to the defensive end. All he's

868
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: doing is setting him up and slowed him down for

869
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: a full back. Ingold then Smythe is gonna go up

870
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: to the other linebacker and he's gonna pick him off.

871
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: And just like that with Timey you everybody's got a

872
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: hat on a hat. The wide receiver's got a block

873
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: on the outside, you see Ingold and Smythe. You see

874
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: Robbie Chosen over there, he's making a block. And now

875
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: moster has got this alley to run through. That's one play,

876
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: but it's so well crafted, it's so well timed. They

877
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: get everybody blocked. James, they don't move the line of

878
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: scrimmage at all. All they're doing is just stretching you

879
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: and then picking you off. And so nobody is like

880
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: drilling anybody into the dirt. Nobody's like double teaming anybody

881
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: and combo blocking. But the way that they do it,

882
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: it's a different way, and it's very frustrating to a

883
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: defense by Before we move on, I kind of want

884
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: to have a follow up on this.

885
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: We talked Tyreek Hill at the top of the shit

886
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the show and how maybe him leaving Kansas City, this

887
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: was the one offensive mind that maybe fit him best

888
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: when he left Andy Reid. In terms of coming to

889
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, is this something you see as maybe a

890
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: perfect marriage because such a unique player that maybe we've

891
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: never really seen before in Tyreek Hill, and such a

892
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: unique play caller and play designer, No question.

893
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: I think so, James, like they have a formation now

894
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: with Tyreek that nobody runs in this league, nobody's ever

895
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: run like. He's literally crouched down in hiding at the

896
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: end of the line of scrimmage off the ball, and

897
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: he's looking at Tua. He's looking at you know, when

898
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: the ball is gonna get snapped. He's looking to when

899
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: he's supposed to because he can't see to without looking

900
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 2: at him, but when he's supposed to go in motion

901
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: off it. And he's running these routes right, And I've

902
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: asked him about it where he comes to motion and

903
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: he just runs to the other side of the field

904
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: and he goes up the sideline and sometimes he runs

905
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: body like he did against Carolina last week. And sometimes

906
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: he runs a dig route and sometimes he just stops,

907
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: but it's not really a route. He's just using his speed, yeah,

908
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: and he's just kind of reading the defense while he's

909
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: running and then he just finds the opening and Tua instinct.

910
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: They must practice it all the time because you don't

911
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: see Eric throws er. Oh I thought he was gonna

912
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: be there and he did that. You don't see the miscommunication.

913
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: And so it's just fascinating to watch how they're using him.

914
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: And as good as he was in Kansas City and

915
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: they won a Super Bowl, he's being used differently now

916
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: and sometimes he's the decoy and he's just stretching and

917
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: running the defense off to get something underneath. And he's

918
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: okay with all that.

919
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: He baly on the play breakdown where you showed the

920
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: ing gold and the tight end kuiny of just hooking

921
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: the tight ends. That was me in practice and everything

922
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: back at Missouri get hooked by everybody.

923
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: I could, I could stop it.

924
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: Hey, but you know a player and I'm glad you

925
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: brought this to our attention because a player has been

926
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 4: this league for a while who was just showing out

927
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: with Aaron Glenn and Detroit. There's that linebacker Alex and Zeloni,

928
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: and you've done a great breakdown of him as well.

929
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: It's on on your YouTube channel, on all your social media.

930
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 4: But what about the way Anzeloni is locking people up

931
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: on Lions defense?

932
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: You know, like sometimes Steve, you just put a game on,

933
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: he's just watching it and angelone he's making like every play,

934
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: he's making almost every tackle, or he's defending the pass

935
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: like last week, like he was all over the field.

936
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: He never comes off the field like they'll they'll play

937
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: Jack Campbell next to him and Barns, they'll play different guys,

938
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: but he doesn't come off the field. He plays every

939
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: down sometimes he's a man coverage like he is, you know.

940
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: I mean you just like this play right here, you're

941
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: seeing the end of the play right here on the tackle,

942
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: but you watch him in coverage right here, like he's

943
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: a man coverage. Okay, you get the back out of

944
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: the backfield right here in a wheel route. He's running

945
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: stride for stride down the field and he's defending that

946
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: pass blindly. But it is hard Steve, because you know

947
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: you can't see it, you know. And then you watch

948
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: this play right here here he is on the back

949
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: coming out of the backfield, all that space all right,

950
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: a flat route, okay, he's in perfect position to make

951
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: the break on the route. And then you watch a

952
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: play like this, the cutback here he's got to defend

953
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: an entire gorge Steve, and you know, as a linebacker

954
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: slow to you know, he doesn't overrun it. He sits

955
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: there and waits for it to come back to him

956
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: and then he makes the tackle and it's it's play

957
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: to play. You watch this right here, and here he

958
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: is like this play, you know, coming out of the

959
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: backfield again, like you know, he defended three passes in

960
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: this game where he's got the back or the tight end.

961
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: And he's a perfect position right now. And you know,

962
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: you see him in the flat right here, like he's

963
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: been all phases of the game, sideline, the sideline. See,

964
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: he's the quarterback in the middle of this defense. He

965
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: has been really, really good to watch, and you know,

966
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: I just felt like it was time to give him.

967
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: We talked about Aidon Hutchinson when Brian Bench was really

968
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: rolling in there. Jerry Jacobs got three interceptions Kirby Joseph

969
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 2: at free safety. But I just thought it was time

970
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: to give Alec Angeloni a little bit of love, because,

971
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: like you said, he's been in this league. He played

972
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. But you know, you know, coach coach

973
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: has got an eye for what he wants, and I

974
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: feel like Angeloni is exactly what he wants in the

975
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: middle right now. And here's here's a cornworthy.

976
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, here, here's some great butter to go on. James's

977
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: popcorn about Angelone. His parents were over in Israel when

978
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: the recent.

979
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 4: Attack started, and they got out there over there on

980
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: a church mission uh in Tel Aviv, and they were

981
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 4: able to get out a few days later and attend

982
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 4: that game in Tampa Bay.

983
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 3: There he is right there with his family.

984
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: And he's he was on social media saying, I love

985
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: football ball, I can think about as my family and

986
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: hopefully they can get out and their church group get

987
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: out of Israel safely. So salute to everything he's doing

988
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: on the field, but to him and his family and

989
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 4: to so many people who are thinking about those over

990
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: this conflict that's going on in the Middle East. But again,

991
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 4: what a great photo for those of you in the podcast.

992
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 4: You can't see it. It's Alex Angeloni standing up in

993
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 4: the stands with his family in Tampa Bay. Yeah, and

994
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: Baldi real quick, we only got about thirty seconds here.

995
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: But the rams what Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup have

996
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: going on.

997
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 3: They've been reunited.

998
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable. Steve, give you give Matt Stafford

999
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: three seconds, he'll find Cooper cumpanywhere on the field. It

1000
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: how he's down last week, Like this touchdown here, the

1001
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: ball's out of hands, but the bulls throw to the

1002
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: pilot and so when Cup turns around, that's exactly where

1003
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: he expects that ball. And when you get that kind

1004
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: of trust in timing between quarterback and Cup or with Nicoua,

1005
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: because it's the same with him, like you've got something

1006
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: special building. I know we're talking about the Rams finally

1007
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: now because people are starting to recognize Byron Young some

1008
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: of the guys on defense. But this connection looks like

1009
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: circa twenty twenty one. What he was a triple crown winner.

1010
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: It was. It was something to watch on Sunday.

1011
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 4: Awesome, all right, Brian Baldinger. He will be at who

1012
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: are you at? You at the Colton Brown this weekend.

1013
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: Right, I'll see Rodney in Indianapolis this weekend. I'll see

1014
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: Shane Steike. Tell me said, I'll talk to swortsze. Yeah,

1015
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: I'll give him up your best, guys, that was a

1016
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: great interview today.

1017
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: All right, I really appreciate your right back soon.

1018
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: A closing thoughts of me and JP if he can

1019
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: get the salt off his finger that pop Ooh, you

1020
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 4: missed it so close.

1021
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the w We close out the NFL

1022
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: reports Steve Weis James Palmer with you.

1023
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: Steve.

1024
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: We have a massive Sunday night matchup between two five

1025
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: and one teams in the Dolphins and the Eagles, and

1026
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: we talk so much about Tyreek Hill, an offseason acquisition

1027
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: of trading for a number one wide receiver changes to

1028
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: a changes the building. How about the Eagles and what

1029
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: they did with AJ Brown on draft Day and the

1030
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: addition that he's been to that group in Philadelphia.

1031
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, think about that. I mean that move.

1032
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 4: You know, Tennessee losing him may have cost John Robinson

1033
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: his job as general manager down there because AJ Brown

1034
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: is doing it. Four straight games with a one hundred

1035
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: and twenty five plus receiving yards. That's a staggering number.

1036
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: He is right there with Tyreek hillwey look at the statistics.

1037
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: But what he does to open up this offense that

1038
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 4: they're still trying to figure out a little bits we

1039
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: talked earlier, is absolutely amazing.

1040
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: He really is.

1041
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: He's a big body receiver that we were talking with

1042
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner about big body receivers lacking their playmaking ability

1043
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: down in the red zone.

1044
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe the Eagles go to AJ.

1045
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: Brown down there in the red zone as opposed to

1046
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: throwing those teardrops that Jaalen Hurts has been doing well.

1047
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Keep the tear drops, but add in the red zone

1048
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: stuff as well, because that's something Philly needs to improve on.

1049
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: For Steve Whye job.

1050
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: James Faller for the NFL Reports, See you guys Monday

1051
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: when we recap these games. Wherever you get your podcasts

1052
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: check us out also on the NFL Fast channel