1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Ah beat Force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to Software a Gradio Special Operations, 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: military news and straight talk with the guys and the 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: community Software Radio on Time on Target as um as advertised, 5 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I should say on the last podcast, we are going 6 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: to point Emerson back on, which has been a while. 7 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: I love having plint on and he's always working on 8 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: different things. I definitely want to try to get him 9 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: on a full tear about Saudi Arabia because he's been 10 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: pretty vocal about that. Yeah, that'd be cool. I mean 11 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Clinton a lot throughout his life style. I'm gonna say 12 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: it to him, but you know, he's a guy who 13 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: transitions not only very well and successfully, but like very quickly. Um, 14 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: I'll probably mention during then he I mean my first 15 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: time meeting him, but he was still serving and just 16 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: a few years after that, Like he's got a clothing line, 17 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: he's got a whole series with a hundred Deadly Skills 18 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: now with like activity books, various editions, this desk calendar, 19 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: and uh he's also got his security company Escaped the Wolf. 20 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: So he's just like a guy who's doing all different 21 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: interesting things. Well, yeah, I think Clint was smart about it. 22 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we can talk to him about it, but 23 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: I think he was very smart about it in that UM. 24 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: He started thinking about all of it before he got 25 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: out of the military and started creating his business, his 26 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: security business and everything. So it's all kind of like 27 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: lined up, and we'll have to talk to him about it. 28 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: But I think there's like an actual clear thought process 29 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: behind it. It wasn't something he just kind of like 30 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: woke up one morning was like, oh, I guess I'll 31 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: do this. You know, it has to it had to 32 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: have been well thought out. I don't know if we 33 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: mentioned it on his last interview UM with him or 34 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: if I don't even know if you were here for 35 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: that one. And it's just been a while, but did 36 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: you see that there's like all these Chinese knockoff books 37 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: of one Deadly Skills on Amazon now? But I mean 38 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: there's Chinese knockoffs of fucking everything, including fighter jets. There's 39 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: a lot of these though, like these books and they're 40 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: called like a hundred uh Lethal Skills or something, and 41 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: like they steal his illustrations and it's they're like all 42 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: over Amazon. But I think he reported all of them. Yeah, 43 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: A lot of that UH is on eBay also. Yeah, 44 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: so well we'll get into that with him hopefully. UM, 45 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: but before we do, you were telling me this recent 46 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: news which I did see on Twitter in various other places. 47 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Uh I E D blast in Afghanistan to army members 48 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: in one air Yeah, there was two Special Forces soldiers 49 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: captain and the Sergeant first class were killed in a 50 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: air Force combat controller was also killed. Uh and a 51 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: I believe a contractor was wounded. And then I was 52 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: told there's two other uh, conventional army soldiers in another 53 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Green Beret who are pretty grievously wounded. Um. The I 54 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: e D Apparently it was so big that eyewitnesses said 55 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: they saw the M wrap. So the M wrap is 56 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: a mind resisted h mind resistant ambush protected armored vehicle 57 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: thing ways like up to twenty eight tons I think. 58 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: And the blast was so big picked up this vehicle 59 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: and threw it about fifty meters. So yeah, I mean 60 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I wish I had something, you know, insightful or meaningful 61 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: to say about all of that. But you know, we've 62 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: got more soldiers dead in Afghanistan. Um, and you know, 63 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear it. Yeah, and from what you're 64 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: saying with the MRAPs, it's not like it was an 65 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: equipment issue, because there's always those times where armored vehicles. Yeah, 66 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: the par No, No, I don't think I mean, I 67 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: mean the army. I'm sure we'll do. You know, they're 68 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: after action review and assessments and all of that, but 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: I don't It probably wasn't an equipment issue. What happens 70 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: is that, you know, the enemy starts using I e 71 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: d S, so we start putting armor on our vehicles 72 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: or driving different vehicles that are armored, like m wraps, 73 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: and so the enemy builds the I e d S 74 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. UM. When I was in Iraq the 75 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: last time, they were actually um taking like semi trucks 76 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: full of explosives, like homemade explosives and driving up to 77 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: American vehicles and detonating. They detonated one at them at 78 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: at the base and the school. I wasn't at the 79 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: base at that time, but it went off toward near 80 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: the gate and a friend of mine was like maybe 81 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: a good mile away at the range setting things up. 82 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: The blasts actually knocked him down. It was so powerful. Um, 83 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: that can be included in your book, that those type 84 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: of stories. There's a bunch of weird I mean I 85 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: read through the I mean that's a whole another subject. Yeah, 86 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: I read through. I read through the first pass of 87 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: the of the manuscript and um, yeah, there's a lot 88 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: of weird stories in there. But yeah, terrible news to hear. Um. 89 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's gotten to the point where 90 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: it's like repetitive news because there's no state. Yeah. I 91 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: think it's like thirteen k I s this year in Afghanistan. Um. 92 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: And you know, not to sound callous about it, but 93 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, soldiers dying war and I think we I 94 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: think we can accept that when it's in pursuit of 95 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: a strategic goal, when it's in pursuit of national security. 96 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: And I think every soldier, certainly every Special Forces soldier 97 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: in combat control that signs up UM, understands that they 98 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: may have to give their life for their country. UM. 99 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I just think that our country, our government, America, h 100 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: owes it to our soldiers who are putting their lives 101 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: on the line to have some sort of coherent strategy 102 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: for them, um, to put them on a path to 103 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: pursue something. If we're just over there driving around until 104 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you get blown up. Then it's time to get these 105 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: guys home and get them the hell out of there. Yeah. Um, 106 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: all right, before we get to quint Emerson, I might 107 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: as well mention you guys now what we have going 108 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: on with Hurricane Group. Um. I was checking out all 109 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: the new stuff we have with Great Club. If you 110 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: check out the Instagram, you'll see all the gear that well, 111 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: not all of it, you know, a lot of it's 112 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: a surprised but some of the gear that guys are 113 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: preparing and is going to be very interesting for Create Club. 114 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I saw Brandon of course SEEO today and he was 115 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: talking about and I would agree. If you know, if 116 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: you need to give a present to any guy in 117 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: your wife, Create Club is the way to go at 118 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Create Club dot us. The guys are a girl. Yeah, 119 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I know. Their whole you know, the whole model right 120 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: now though is uh, it's a club for men by men, 121 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: but there are women who like gear. I agree with you. 122 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I get like all four of the crates or whatever. Um, 123 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: I get them sent to my house by the company 124 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: and so I end up with a lot of gear, 125 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is stuff that like. So 126 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: if you get the basic crate, it has some stuff 127 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: in it, but then if you get the premium crate, 128 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: it's like you're getting the basic set, but then all 129 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: the other stuff. So I end up with more than 130 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: one item. I've had that before, so what I I 131 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: typically like give that stuff away when I when like 132 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: whether guys or girls come to visit my wife and 133 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I at our apartment, it's like party favors, like oh, 134 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: you want a folding knife, flashlight. I give a lot 135 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: of a lot of those things to my my step 136 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: father too, who works outdoors a lot and he loves 137 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: it flashlights and everything else. I'm trying to think of. Um, oh, 138 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: it is the tourist knife that I gave to my 139 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: friend George. And my friend Uh who lives in Arizona, 140 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: was actually texting me. He was like, you already knew 141 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: knives from Great Club because he was like, I used 142 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: that thing all the time. His tourists still in business though, 143 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: because I was actually randomly checking this out and I 144 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: haven't seen anything new. So the Pistol company, well, they 145 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: were doing knives and I haven't seen anything new, so 146 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: I have not I haven't heard anything about going out business. 147 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 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With that, we're 174 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: gonna get over to Colin Emerson. What's that body, clients? 175 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? How much? How you doing? Doing good? 176 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm here with Jack, so the whole team is here. Hey, 177 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: c thanks for coming on. Hey guys doing right? Thanks 178 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: for being flexible. No, it's all good, man, not a problem. Actually, 179 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: since you know we're recording right away, are you able 180 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: to publicly acknowledge who you met with or now? Yeah? 181 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: Of course. Okay, So so what was what was up 182 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: with that? I was curious myself. So I've been working 183 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: with the International Spy Museum in in d C for 184 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: several years now, and every year we hosted dinner that honors, 185 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: you know, um, someone who's playing a big role in 186 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: intelligence and also a special operations. So it's called the 187 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Webster Award, and Webster what was the judge? He was 188 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: the director to c i A and he was director 189 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: of the FBI. He's the only guy to carry all 190 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: that weight in one lifetime, and so the award is 191 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: named after him. So last year it was uh, George W. 192 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Bush and then this year, which was last night, was 193 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Bill mccraven. UM. So yeah, it was. It was a 194 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: really cool event. I highly recommend you guys go if 195 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: you ever have the opportunity. It's always around this time 196 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: every year. UM, and it's a great dinner. It's probably uh, 197 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: the biggest security vulnerability in the world because you have 198 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean every single director of every intelligence agency sitting 199 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: in one room, you know. So but other than that, 200 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a it's a great uh, it's 201 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: a great endeavor and and that's kind of uh. They 202 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: had me fly up and help out and then uh, 203 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: I just got back and that's why the flights were 204 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: all screwy. And it's overlapped with our original UM interview 205 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: times so started about that. No, it's all good man. 206 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I was just curious. I was like, oh, what what 207 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: is Clint doing with Admiral mccraven. That's that's pretty cool. Um. 208 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: But getting into every thing, I feel like most of 209 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: our audience knows you by now, but I should give 210 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: the formal introduction Uh. Quints, the former seal served in 211 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: several seal teams, author of one hundred Deadly Skills. But 212 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: the new the project is the one hundred Deadly Skills 213 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Puzzle and Activity Book, which I was just checking out. 214 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: It's designed to improve the brand's cognitive function, memory, anxiety levels, 215 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: and also service therapy for t v I and PTSD. 216 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: We'll get into everything else you do, because Quint has 217 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: several companies Escaped the Wolf, which is his crisis management company, 218 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: and his brand, Violent Nomad, which I love. I've you know, 219 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: ordered a Violent Nomad shirt which I wear all the time. Uh. 220 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: But I guess the first thing we'll get into is 221 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: is what inspired this puzzle and activity book. It's cool 222 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: and it's it's definitely something different than you know the books, 223 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: but it's in that same realm of one dred Deadly Skills. Yeah, 224 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know the books are really um I 225 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: mean first Macro Macro to Micro Right, So the Wolf, 226 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the crisis management stuff us. You know, I was giving 227 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: all these great best practices and custom education programs and 228 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: what to do, and there's an active shooter and anctural disaster, 229 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: medical events, you know, even cyber and travel abroad. Um. 230 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: And then I was trying to figure out, well, how 231 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: do you get that to the consumers that don't necessarily 232 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: work for companies that are willing to pay for you know, 233 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: custom tailored stuff that I provide. And then that's where 234 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: a hundred deadly skills came from. And then once I 235 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: built those and got them out and you know, they 236 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: still they still have been doing really well. Um. And 237 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: that to give people skills that they could use whether 238 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: it's bad guys or you know, natural disaster, any other 239 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of crisis that they could face. And then I 240 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, now, how do I get 241 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, people to be a little more aware other 242 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: than just talking about awareness or coming up with stupid 243 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: color codes or some other ship that's see out there. Um. 244 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's great if you're gonna be in yellow, orange, red, 245 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: whatever state all the time. The reality is that unless 246 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: you train your brain, uh, then you'll never really be 247 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: doing yourself any good. Just because you learn some color 248 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: codes doesn't necessarily mean you're actually paying attention. So UM, 249 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: so I wanted to put together another book that kind 250 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: of um gave people additional ability. Um. And it's uh, 251 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: they're tough, but that's the point it's supposed to. The 252 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: puzzles I've worked with a puzzler, Believe it or not, 253 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: there's not too many of them left human puzzlers because 254 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of your puzzle books these 255 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: days are computer generated. UM. All of my puzzles are 256 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: human generated. And there's a big difference between the two. UM. 257 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: And some of them are original puzzles that we've developed, 258 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: and they they literally they force you to use parts 259 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: of your brain you probably haven't used since you were 260 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: learning how to crawl. And and that's kind of the 261 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: problem with as you grow up. You know, when you're 262 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: a kid, you're tapping into so many parts of your 263 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: brain UM to learn everything that you're learning so quickly, 264 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's walking, talking, all that stuff. We're 265 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: like totally you know, pulling every string in the brain 266 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: to learn it. And then as you learn things, or 267 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: you stop learning as much, then certain parts of the the 268 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: brains start going dormant or don't get don't get tasted 269 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: as much, and so you know, you don't uh, you 270 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: lose a little bit of that capability, or you don't 271 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: gain as much as you thought you could. So we 272 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: put puggle together that tap into parts of the brain 273 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: that probably haven't been touched in a little while. UM. 274 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: And by doing so, it will help with your memory, 275 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: your cognitive stuff that we're attention attention UM. And then 276 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: and then of course when you relate all this to 277 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: a guy that you know has been in combat. UM. 278 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: And and this when I when I went through NIKO 279 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: And if you know people and don't know a nicco is, 280 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: it's you gotta you gotta have certain symptoms and then 281 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, you get a I did basically to Walter 282 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: read for thirty days. UM. And now they've got to 283 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: think one on. They've got a couple of them now 284 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: around the country and it's for PTSD and tb I 285 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: and all that and so UM, that's where I had learned. 286 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: When you're not talking to strengths dealing, group therapy, individual therapy, 287 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, banging on bongos, painting pictures and whatever, they 288 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: have to do all kinds of stuff to to figure 289 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: out what works for you to reduce anxiety and help 290 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: with your UM any any uh issues you've had from 291 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: multiple concussions. UM. When you're not doing all that, you're 292 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: sitting in class and uh, I'm sitting in class and 293 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: learning about, you know, how the brain works, and I 294 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: found it fascinating. So later on, obviously now later years later, 295 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: I uh started thinking about the puzzle book. I kind 296 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: of tapped into all that old education and some of 297 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: the people that I've talked to back then, and now 298 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: you've got a puzzle activity book. At first, I was like, 299 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: it sounds kind of cheesy and corny. It the reality 300 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: is is, you know, if people would just train their 301 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: brain more often, it actually benefits you physically, emotionally. I mean, 302 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: it's so many different ways it benefits you because people 303 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: forget that brain is the control center for everything we do. 304 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: And but yeah, we do nothing for it except you know, 305 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: uh up late at night or too much coffee or 306 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: whatever else that about it. I'm looking at it now, 307 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: actually I can see this being like a rather unconventional 308 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: Christmas gift. Yeah no, I mean check, yeah, that thing 309 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's you know, it's got it's got a 310 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: little bit of everything in it. And um, like I said, 311 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: it's given the ability but reducing anxiety. So sometimes certain 312 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: puzzles aren't exactly going to reduce your anxiety. So um, 313 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: but the coloring. You know, it's crazy art um. All 314 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: the arts actually have been used in different forms of 315 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: therapy with guys with PTSD UM. You know, actually painting 316 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: masks was one of the big things you do at 317 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: nico UM. But being creative, putting something together, but something 318 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: as simple as coloring actually can take your anxiety levels 319 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: and drop them to zero and you know, you're not 320 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: stressed now. And we have as actually talking about this 321 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: on a podcast one time about how I got back 322 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: into painting models and how I found it to be 323 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: very therapeutic in the sense that, like you're just completely 324 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: concentrated on something, doing something that's sort of creative, and 325 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: it just allows you to focus on on one thing 326 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: as opposed to you know how we're normally just distracted 327 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: with a hundred different things, especially with all the you know, 328 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: devices and smartphones and tablets and every other damn thing 329 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: we have nowadays. Yeah, that's it, you nailed it. It's 330 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: it's making you sit down and disconnect. And when you 331 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: start doing something that's creative and it has a start 332 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: in an in an ending, and when you look at 333 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: a blank piece of paper that has you know, a 334 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: black outline of whatever, and you know you've gotta color 335 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: it in. That's start and knowing that there's a finish, 336 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: and as you get going just almost takes everything and 337 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: put it aside um. And then once you're done, you've 338 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: got to, you know, a sense of accomplishment. You've finished something, 339 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: you started, you finished it and and during the whole process, 340 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: you've you know, you've your respirations will drop, your pulful, 341 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: drop your blood pressure and will go to normal. It's 342 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of interesting they had us. I mean 343 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: no one way. The way I know this is because 344 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: they would thro all these monitors on us and make 345 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: us do different things, and and in the thirty days 346 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: you find out what really works for you and what doesn't. 347 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: So I tried to build a book with a lot 348 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: of things I thought that would work for the average 349 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: person along with the TB I, PTSD kind of guy 350 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: as well or a gal. Do you expect anyone in 351 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: China to boot like this? Like the hundred Deadly Skills book. 352 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: That was crazy for a while because there were it 353 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: was like a ton of them popping up. I was 354 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I was staying here in the intro. I don't remember 355 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: if we talked about it before on the podcast. But 356 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: like it was, it was a problem for a while. 357 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: It was Yeah, I mean and and him. And here's 358 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: the thing about you guys probably noticed, but Amazon doesn't. 359 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: You know, they don't regulate at all. So you could 360 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: depend at one point a hundred delie skills and you'd have, 361 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen fraudulent books sitting there with it. Well, 362 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: they don't everything, but they rely on us, the consumers 363 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: or authors reporting it. Like I had a guy just 364 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: blatantly steal the cover of one of my novels and 365 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: then slap his own title on it. And and from 366 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: what I understood, the contents of the book was a 367 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: screenplay he stole from somebody else and start selling it 368 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: on Amazon. Yeah, so they rely on on you know us. 369 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: You know, so if you're a Clint Emerson read um 370 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: and you see that kind of bs on Amazon, go 371 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: ahead and report it to the company, because that's really 372 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: the only way that stuff gets taken down. Yeah. No, eventually, 373 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: did it, you had? I had. I ended up hit 374 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: up Amazon and any put me in touch with a 375 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: department dedicated to that, and it took a little bit 376 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: of time, but eventually a lot of the frauds kind 377 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: of fell off, but there's still a couple on there. 378 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: It's crazy. So I gotta ask whatever. I gotta get 379 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: your take on something completely different than this. Uh. And 380 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: I know you've been very vocal about it on Instagram 381 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: and everything, and you've you've spoken about on the show, Um, 382 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: growing up with your dad working in the oil industry 383 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia and you know, being disgusted by the culture, which, 384 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: as you said, inspired you in a lot of ways 385 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: to become a seal. Uh. Just what's your take on 386 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: what's currently going on in Saudi Arabia as well as 387 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: Trump's pretty blunt response that like We're not going to 388 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: do anything about this about journalists being killed under mysterious 389 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: circumstances and that type of thing. Yeah, I mean, my 390 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on Saudi will never change. I mean, um, they 391 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, as mentioned before, growing up there, you see 392 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: a lot of what really goes on, and you know, 393 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: it's a closed country for a reason. There's no tourism. 394 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: No one comes into that country unless basically on a 395 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: work visa, and the work has to be you know, 396 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: something that benefits them. Um. So you know, my dad, 397 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, was an engineer and Maranco is pretty much 398 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: a Saudi company at this point. Um, but it's run 399 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: by lesseners, you know, Americans, Brits and Canadians and so um, 400 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: you know we uh growing up there, You're you're at 401 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: the mercy of the culture and the religion and the 402 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: religious police and everything that comes with it. And when 403 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: you're in for their country. So you know, later you realize, hey, 404 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: that's their way of doing things, that's how they do it. 405 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: It's don't let it come outside in fline. But now 406 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: you know they're kind of doing they're getting a little 407 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: it seems a little more brave and uh doing stuff 408 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: outside defense on which doesn't doesn't surprise me. I mean, 409 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: these are people that, um, you know, we had grown 410 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: men trying to you know, beat the living fit out 411 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: of us just because we're Westerners. I was ten years old, 412 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, trying to escape you know, the hands of 413 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: like you know, four or five year old men on 414 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: a regular basis, um, And who knows what they would 415 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: have actually done, because they're all perverts, you know. They 416 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: they run the bah Rain and uh you know where 417 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: they think all I can't see them, and they horror 418 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: around and drink across the bridge Yeah, they go across 419 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: the causeway, hang out in Bahrain, do all their stupid 420 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: ship and they go back to Saudi because they literally 421 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: believe all. I can't see them outside of show, so, 422 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just hypocrites. They've always been hypocrites. They 423 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: they're probably the laziest people on the plane. It. I mean, 424 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I can't fucking stand them. So, you know, I've probably 425 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: been labeled as probably as all that to Saudi's but 426 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't do it based on anybody else's 427 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: opinion other than my own experiences. And I think it's 428 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of the difference as far as you know, 429 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: whacking a journalist, I mean, it just kind of shows 430 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: how one they're they're they're still just as barbaric as 431 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: they've ever been. Um, but I think too they they 432 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: they're they're not that good at anything. You know, they 433 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: don't they expert. They export oil, they don't export knowledge, 434 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: or they don't there's nothing that they're really good at. 435 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: They buy a lot of Have you ever seen what 436 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: they do when they do these hundred billion dollar investments 437 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: into their military, I mean they store it, they have 438 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: They've built these these massive high tech hangers and they 439 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: just fill it with inventory and they don't have they 440 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: don't have a body for every aircraft. They don't you know, 441 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: they don't have a pilot for every aircraft. They don't 442 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: have a driver for every change. They don't have that. 443 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: They just buy this ship and then they just stored 444 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: in something. It's like, what are you doing? You know, 445 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: It's like, you don't, I don't. I don't get it. 446 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: But that's just how they roll. They just spend money 447 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: and some kind of connected graces. It's all political, of course, 448 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, they just don't 449 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: that kill is I mean, you are you kidding me? 450 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: You're you're the you're the whatever, the secret squirrel assassins 451 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: for the Kingdom, And you couldn't target this guy and 452 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: kill them and make it look like an accident, you know, 453 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: it's not. I don't personally, I don't think it's that 454 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: difficult to pull something off like that when you're when 455 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: you're when it's a sponsored hit, you know. Um. Instead, 456 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: they lure them to their own embassy and do it there, 457 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: which I think was just idiotic. It's it's a cheap way. 458 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: It's a cheap way of doing it. They could have 459 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: hired the best mercenaries on the planet. They do, they 460 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: do it themselves and sunk it all up. I mean, 461 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: it just goes to show just how stupid they are. 462 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: What was it like growing up in Saudi Arabia? Like 463 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: we hear these stories. I mean, I know you talked 464 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about it, but we hear these stories 465 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: about like public executions, you know, women being beaten, street 466 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: things like this. I mean, what sort of things did 467 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: you witness when you were there? Uh? You know, if 468 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: you were leaving? I grew up an app cake, So 469 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: if you're like, let's say, if you were driving to 470 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: Cobar Kubar is you know Cobar Towers and that that 471 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: attack was you know, obviously one of that Nities or 472 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: early nineties guy on who was an e O D 473 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: text that responded, yeah, um, it's just that. So that 474 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: was right after I left. I get them all mixed 475 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: up because there was a lot of terrorism that goes 476 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: on inside Saudi. And what most people don't know is 477 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: the people of Saudi Arabia can't stand the relationship at 478 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: the royal family has with any outsiders um and so 479 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: the royal family isn't necessarily liked by anyone of course, 480 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: because one they kind of rule with that that butcher mentality. 481 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: But um, and it's always kind of been that way. 482 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: And so the tears inside of the kingdom is pretty 483 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: active and alive. And well it was in the eighties 484 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: when I was there as a kid and definitely heard 485 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 1: about it, you know, during my military career. Um. And 486 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: so for us as kids, you know, you would there 487 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: was times when there were terrorist attacks on those American 488 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: compounds because it was just the the the Saudi the 489 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: people of Saudi Arabia's way of um shunning the government, 490 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, but um, in their relationships with America, and 491 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 1: so you know, being Americans and now you're gonna go 492 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: and we go up to Cobar to go shopping. Uh, 493 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, there is I mean, it's it's a it's 494 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: a vibe. You get. There is a hierarchy of of 495 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: who's important to who's not. In Americans and Canadians and 496 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: Brits are down there with Filipinos and Pakistani's, which Filipinos 497 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: and Pakistanis are really the slaves of Saudi Arabia, um. 498 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: And then you've got the Americans and and the Breads 499 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: and the Canadians just like right there in the same 500 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: you know pool, so simple stuff standing in line to 501 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: go shopping, and you know, Saudi men will go to 502 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: the front of the line and no one's gonna do 503 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: anything about it. I mean, you could be in a 504 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, let's say the line at the suit is 505 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: twenty people long to check out, um, and you know, 506 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: if you're a Saudi citizen, then you get front of 507 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: the line privileges, which means you're going to be standing 508 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: there all day long because they never give you the 509 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to actually make it to the register. And I 510 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: remember my dad, you know, he's a you know, he's 511 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: a big old you know, Texan, and he couldn't uh. 512 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: I would see him almost boil over a couple of times. 513 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: You could just see in his face like he just 514 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, go nuts inside that place. But 515 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: if you did, you know, you're always wrong too. That's 516 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: the other that's the other thing. It doesn't matter whatever 517 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: whatever goes, whatever happens, especially if it involves a savvy citizen, 518 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: you're always going to be wrong, um. And the consequences 519 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: are unpredictable, you know, So you just had to like 520 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: keep your ship squared away while you were there and 521 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: me as a kid running around causing trouble. You know, 522 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind you're always thinking you 523 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: cannot get caught doing whatever it is you're gonna do, 524 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: because the fathers pay the consequence. And so when you 525 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: talk about the public Kennings, um, you know, they have 526 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: guys that are prose. That's their job is to learn 527 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: how to king properly. If you look at it, and 528 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: it's not a cane as you think when you walk, 529 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, an old guy with a cane walking down 530 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: the street. Their canes are like it basically a very 531 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: long bamboo shoot, you know, papyrus. Right, it's sectioned and 532 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: as it gets to the end, it gets more and 533 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: more narrow, like a like a fishing pole. Um. And 534 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: so it has this whipping kind of flexibility capability to it. 535 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: And so you know, I watched a kid get pulled 536 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: out of school and get three you know, basically it 537 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: was cane three times. And when they do it, they 538 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: stop and they whip that thing. They stop at about 539 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: you know whatever forty five degree angle and they let 540 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: the flexibility come down the back and then whip back up. 541 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: And when it comes down it's kind of whipping you. 542 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: But when it comes back up, it filets your back 543 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: right open. I mean these things are um, you know 544 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: they're built. You know, it's ultimate pain, right having your 545 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: back flaid opened by this this fishing pole like whip 546 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: so um, you know you witnessed that. And that was 547 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: just a kid who was like pe and his name 548 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: on you know he was he was my age and 549 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: he was like p urinating his name onto a sidewalk, 550 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, like any I don't know what kind of 551 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: kids you hung out with. I don't know the kids 552 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: that did that all time, but you don't everything. So 553 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: and that was the that was the consequence for it. 554 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: You know. Um, they still uh you know, if you're 555 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: a thief, you'll see plenty of out he's running down 556 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: with you know, the right hand missing. Um, they're in 557 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: the way they do it is basically, you know, it's 558 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: guillotine style, right, you stick your wrist in there, they 559 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: chop it off and then immediately stick your your nub, 560 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: your stub into like it's like boiling oil to cauterize 561 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: it and everything. So not only is there, it's not 562 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: like they're they're stubbs. After they get their hand cut off, 563 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: is nice and neat looking. It looks it's like third 564 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: degree burn, melted looking. Because of the process that they 565 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: do it. It sounds like, you know, what black people 566 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: experienced in America before the Civil Rights Act, Like you know, 567 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: you've readen the books about you know, just living in 568 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: constant fear of you know, law enforcement, but also of 569 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: like lynchings and and all sorts of like just six 570 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: ship that that was done back in those days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 571 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean it was and that was bad. I mean, 572 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: this is a government doing it and it's still doing 573 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: it to this day. I mean, you know, I kind 574 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: of I see the eye for an eye, tooth for tooth. 575 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we can all agree at certain 576 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: crimes in the United States wouldn't be great if you know, 577 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: we did some of this to certain bad guys, um 578 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: for whatever crime they they committed. I mean I kind 579 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: of see a little bit of their logic in it. 580 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: But I mean stealing something and doing it, you know, now, 581 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: if it's a rapist, if it's a murder, sure, why not, 582 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, give them a little bit of you know, 583 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: something to remember for the rest of their life. Right. 584 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: But it's but you know, for stealing something at the suit. 585 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: Can you get your hand chopped off? I mean, that's 586 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: that's obviously caning a little kid permanent. It's a little permanent, right, Yeah, 587 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, we witnessed all kinds of stuff. I 588 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: mean tied into that though with the actual journalist. Um. 589 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: I would actually just like to hear your take on 590 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: Trump's statement because the last episode, Jack, you were saying, 591 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: Trump basically saying We're not going to do anything you 592 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: were saying was like the most brutally honest thing you 593 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: heard from It was probably the Yeah, it's just like 594 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: probably the most real thing we've ever heard from a 595 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: president about our relationship with Saudi Arabia. That's like they 596 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: can get away with the prices, they can literally get 597 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: away with murder. Um. Yeah, I mean I think we 598 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: all know Trump. Uh, He's he's a unique uh president 599 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: without a doubt, think he's there's he definitely has more 600 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: stupid ship come out of his mouth, and he does 601 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: smart stuff from time to time. I mean, I don't 602 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: know what runs through the guy's head. For a long time, 603 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I was like Trump neutral. I was like, I'm not 604 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: going one way or another one this dude. Let's just 605 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: see what happens, and you know, but God, it's like 606 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to Saudi, I think we 607 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: give him a pass a lot, and we do a 608 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: lot for them, you know, behind the scenes. Um, you know, 609 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: it's and we as a government. It's not just Trump, 610 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: but I mean every president thinks that if we have 611 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: Mecca on our side, that's somehow that gives us credibility 612 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: with the rest of the Muslim world. And I'm here 613 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: to tell you it actually poses the opposite thought process 614 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 1: and threat over there, Like it makes everyone actually more 615 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: piste off that that there's these public meetings in the 616 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: Kingdom and this and that. But we keep, we continually 617 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: think that if we're in the good grace of Riad 618 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: and Mecca, that somehow that's going to give us leverage 619 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: with other Muslim countries, and it just doesn't. Other than 620 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: a place to land our aircraft, that's it. I mean, 621 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: it's it's we want our place to base out of 622 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: from time to time. Great, then that's what it should be. Um. 623 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: But every time we do something that's public, um, meeting 624 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: with the king or the prince or this or that, 625 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: it actually irritates you know, Muslims in those regions, those 626 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: areas because it's like, once again, like I said at 627 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: the beginning, no one likes the royal families um position 628 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: or relationship with the Western world, so it doesn't actually 629 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: help anything. And I think every president we've had, I'm 630 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: so problem I'm wondering, like, Okay, who advises on that 631 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: piece of it that you know, cultural awareness, um, because 632 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that they they know that. Living there, 633 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm seeing it, you know, it's like, okay, it's to me, 634 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: it seems like common sense. But whatever. The Saudis also 635 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: have a significant lobby here in the United States down 636 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: in d C and everything else. Yeah, I mean, what 637 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: is it the what's the name of the big fund? Yeah, 638 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Robert Bob Bear's books are pretty good 639 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: about dissecting like the politicians and Saudi money. Um, they're 640 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: in d C. The Carlisle Group in Carlisle, I can't 641 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: remember the name of it. But um, there's an actual 642 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: big like finance firm that when he when he dissected 643 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: it down there's all these you know, obviously influencers in 644 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: the United States government that um, you know, put portions 645 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: of their um, you know, investments into a certain financial group. 646 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: But the financial group is all backed by Saudi money 647 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: and about he control and um, it's like a ad 648 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: hoc way of kind of buying in if you will. 649 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking on I'm just looking on Wikipedia now and 650 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: it just lists, you know, and I know this isn't 651 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: always the most reliable source, but it lists some of 652 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: the lobbyist groups for the Saudi government in America. It 653 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: says Hell and Nolton, Corvis, q O, r V I S. 654 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: And then it has a list of some others that 655 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: the Akin Gump Strouss Middle East Policy Council another important one. Yeah, 656 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't remember the name of the one, 657 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: but he did. I mean, that book is awesome at 658 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: breaking down just how in you know, you know how 659 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: much we have somehow the back pocket, you know, the 660 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: back pocket of the saudiast. I don't know. He's a 661 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: brilliant guy, Big Bob Bear on the podcast quite a 662 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: while ago. Yeah, he's springing back talk about he you know, 663 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: he'll destroy him far better than I can. And judging 664 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: by some of your Instagram posts on the topic, you 665 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: seem to be of the belief that, you know, we 666 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: could be self sufficient and energy So I don't know, 667 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: if you'd like to get into that a little bit. Yeah, 668 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, I can only go by you know, anything 669 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: that you know put out there. But you know here 670 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: in Texas Texas Monthly magazine is something that I read, 671 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't really read that much, but 672 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: I read that one pretty regularly. And uh, and that's 673 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: where I think you saw the post on that Texas 674 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: is climbing right, it's now the if it was its 675 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: own country, it would be the fourth largest economy and 676 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: like number and also happened to be number four is 677 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: I think as oil producer. Um, and they're projecting that 678 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: will be number two in the world by within a 679 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: two or three years if I remember the article right, 680 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, in the post. See, it's just me. 681 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: I love taking a swing anytime I can at this outies. 682 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: I like to kind of make that point, but it's 683 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: more of a global point to that, you know, we 684 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: don't we really don't need them and haven't needed them 685 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: for a while. Um, there's plenty of oil on this planet, 686 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, the you know there was this you remember 687 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: how many ever years ago. That's not what we're running out. 688 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: It's like it's Earth. They've been run out of oil. 689 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: They've been predicting the end of what they call peak 690 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: oil sense about the time of the Civil War actually, 691 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: rather than eighteen sixties. Yeah, it's like it's not it's 692 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: I think people forget it's a naturally produced item by 693 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: the Earth. It doesn't just stop making it. But you know, 694 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: can we can it be more difficult to find it 695 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: from time to time? Sure, but um, there's plenty of 696 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: oil on this planet and we don't necessarily have to 697 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: get it from the Arabian Peninsula. I think it's just 698 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: the big takeaway. I guess the other thing I wanted 699 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: to get into you with, uh, Clint, is what me 700 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: and Ian were talking about this a little bit before 701 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: we gave you a call, and Ian was just commenting that, 702 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, you seem like you had a pretty successful 703 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: transition from the Navy into the private sector, and I 704 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: was speculating a little bit that, you know, I was saying, well, 705 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: I bet he had a pretty good plan and he 706 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: started his business before he left the military. You know, 707 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: I had a deliberate idea in mind of how to 708 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: progress forward, and I just wanted to ask you if you, 709 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: um could talk a little bit about that. Maybe in 710 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: part some advice on other guys who are fixing to 711 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: retire to get out of the military in the near future. Yeah, um, yeah, 712 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: I mean I definitely had a plan. Escaped the Wolf, 713 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: the book, you know, I put that thing together while 714 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: I was up at the n s A. Because when 715 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: I was looking around for you know, how to be 716 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: gray type classes and schools and um for not just 717 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: for me, but for guys that I would teach, I 718 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: wasn't deployed, and there wasn't much, you know, So I 719 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: ended up putting all the stuff together and they turned 720 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: into a little you know book for professional travelers and 721 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: you know, networking. Networking. Networking is still the key, you know, 722 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: as it hears that all the time, always meet as 723 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: many people as you can, stay in touch with him 724 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: as often you know, UM, and that that definitely holds true. 725 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: Because that little book, UM, I'd passed it out, you know, 726 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: for free basically to UM two guys, and it's circulated 727 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: around in the government contracting world. But and then it 728 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of made its way into the hands of the 729 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: head of security for dal Jones you know Wall Street Journal, 730 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: UM an FBI that was their global secuity director. Him. 731 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: He hit me up one day and said, hey, I 732 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: got this little book called Escape the Wall. I was 733 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: wondering if you could turn this into like learning and 734 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: um and uh and I want my seven hundred most 735 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: few week journalists at the Wall Street Journal to like, 736 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, learn this stuff. And it was in the 737 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: light of Danny Pearl. You know, Danny Pearl showed up 738 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: to what he thought was a legit source meet ended 739 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: up kidnapped and having his head cut off on YouTube. 740 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: So Wall Street Journal kind of I was like, all right, 741 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: we gotta start taking security and more serious and so on. 742 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: My my, my new learning is still there today and 743 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: they still cook it. And that was years ago, and 744 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: so that was kind of a kickoff. So I was 745 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: really fortunate the fact that to have a book can 746 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: to a business. And then I started doing much much 747 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: bigger crisis management programs. Um you know that include that 748 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: includes everything now and from everything from strategic communication too, 749 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: you know OSHA approved policy and seizure along with workforce 750 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: education that's all video based. And then you know, now 751 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing it for all kinds of fortune. Five guys. 752 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for networking, if it wasn't for 753 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: that consistent grind and that push and um, I mean, 754 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: I think all of the rules are working hard, apply 755 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: and and and certainly you know when you have a 756 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: bad day that that's not the day to go funk this, 757 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's I have a better reason than that, 758 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: you know. It's I think a lot of guys they 759 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 1: if they're starting a business, especially from from scratch, and 760 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: if things just don't turn as quickly as they thought, 761 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: and they give up. And that's why most of your 762 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: small businesses fail within the first three years, because they 763 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: they expect, like, you know, everything to be you know, 764 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: in the black or profitable, you know, overnight. It just 765 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: doesn't work that way for anyone, regardless of what you 766 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: see on social media, you know. And I think that's 767 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: the other pieces. If you're watching all your buddies and 768 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: it seems like they're just succeeding and it's so easy, 769 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: Uh take it from me, it's they're not. It's it's 770 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of hard. It takes two seconds to 771 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: to post a picture and write a caption. Meanwhile there's 772 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: twenty four I'm working my ass off, you know. So 773 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: it can appear that things are easy, um, but the 774 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: reality is is it's not. I don't think it's easy. 775 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: It's been easy for anyone. I think you get lucky 776 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 1: from time to time and you take advantage of that luck. 777 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: And that luck is like a wave, right, It has 778 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: a high point and then it has a trough, and 779 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: you will eventually be back in that trough again. And 780 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: the goal is to you know, get back up to 781 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: the top of the wave as many times as you 782 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: can and then shorten you know, shortened distance from from 783 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: wave top to wave top and and just keep on going. 784 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: And I think that's, uh, that's all advice you hear 785 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: all the time. But for guys transitioning, you know what 786 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: I did is I put in my retirement paperwork twenty 787 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: four months out, which is the earliest you can do it. 788 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: So two years out. That way, the military knows, okay, 789 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: that guy isn't serious about us anymore, and they tend 790 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: to put you in a job or put you in 791 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: a place where, um, you know that isn't that important, 792 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: which is great because then all of a sudden you 793 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: get time to do what you need to do and 794 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: uh concentrate on your business plan and everything that you 795 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: plan on doing, and then um, leveraging any of the 796 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: networks that you've created and uh, and then you just 797 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: go for it. And so I had definitely I had 798 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: people that UM helped and promoted and UM. And if 799 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: you can land a maven, you know, land as many 800 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: mavens as possible, you know, it's like And for those 801 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: that don't know what a maven is, it's someone who's 802 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: got an network lot much larger and bigger than you 803 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: that can broadcast for you. I think that the you know, 804 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: influencer has probably become a more popular term, but a 805 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: maven is really someone that can mentor but also has 806 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: the network that can help you. And for me, it 807 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: was you know, an older lie Um. He's in his 808 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: seventies now, but at the time, yeah, he knew everybody 809 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: in government. You know, a lot of people are incorporate, 810 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: and so he kind of became the guy that I 811 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: would you know, bounce ideas off of and talk to 812 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: and UM and he would feed me great advice. And 813 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: make sure anybody who's feeding you advice from experience, you 814 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: actually listen to it. Don't think you somehow know more 815 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: than they do. Just listen and take it all in 816 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: and and then use it to the you know, the 817 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: best you can for whatever it is you're doing. And um, 818 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: but you know, hard work, hard work, hard work will 819 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: never fail you. The reason I say this, by the way, 820 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: and I mentioned it in the intro, is just and 821 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: it makes sense that you were planning this out for 822 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 1: years as you were retired, because when I first met 823 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: you quent Um, actually at Serious sax M, you were 824 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: still active duty. And probably within you know, three years 825 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: of that, do you not only have a successful book, 826 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: you have a successful clothing line, your crisis management company. 827 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of really big things going on, 828 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: and at least to me, it seems like it was 829 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: done relatively quickly. But based on what you're saying, the 830 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: plan was years prior to that. Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's 831 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: uh I think. So what I mean, you guys, I created, 832 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: you create an ecosystem and and for me, I personally 833 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: believe if your ecosystem stays in the same lane, if 834 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: all parts somewhat stay in the same lane. And what 835 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: I mean by that is like, if you look at 836 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: all of my stuff, it is in like this this 837 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: uh security round. Self reliance, it's self reliance and self 838 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: rescue is kind of a messaging if I'm if I'm 839 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: talking to a corporation, my job is to get all 840 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: of their employees to be more self reliant when something 841 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: bad happens, like, don't wait for help, help each other 842 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: and solve the problem, right, And then a hundred Deli 843 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: Skills is the consumer version of that, And then my 844 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: brand is really saying that, right, the violent nomad is 845 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: someone who can UM, you know, who embraces self reliance 846 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: and self rescue and isn't waiting for someone to help them. 847 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: And that's kind of a so all of it, that 848 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: whole ecosystem is kind of relying on one another and 849 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: for survivability, and then before you know it starts kind 850 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: of sailing on its own. And I think if you 851 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: kind of outline what you want your ecosystem to be 852 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: UM and it's got three different categories of you know, 853 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: funding or money strains that come in, then when one 854 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: is down, the other two are up. You know, you're 855 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: still going to survive each day and you're gonna pay 856 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: your bill. You know, I certainly am not the kind 857 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: of guy that puts all my eggs in one basket. 858 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: So if I don't have you know, let's say, you know, 859 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: corporate contracts going on with Escaped Wolf, and at least 860 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: I know, I've got like a hundred Delie Skilled Books 861 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: or something that that's still going. Or if Hunter Delie 862 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: skill Books aren't doing as good as I would like, 863 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: then I've got a retail brand that is, you know, 864 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: you know, keeping things afloat. So it's all of it 865 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: ebbs and flows, and it's just like the stock market. 866 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: You just kind of create your own little stock market, 867 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: right and you always hope one is up while the 868 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: other two are down or but the goal is to 869 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: keep all three of them, you know, up, alive and 870 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: well and profitable all the time. And it's fun. I 871 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: can't imagine working for anybody, you know. It's like that's 872 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: at the last ten years of my life was you know, 873 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,959 Speaker 1: basically working for my itself in the military, and um, 874 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: you know I got out. I was like, it's it's 875 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: what America is built for, is capitalism and work the 876 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: work for yourself, do it yourself, and before you know it, 877 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: you're you're somewhat profitable. It's like some good real talk 878 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: right there. I feel like, you know about making it 879 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: uh in the private sector after you leave the military. 880 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean regardless, there's a lot of hard work involved, um, 881 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: but some good entrepreneurial advice and there also yeah, I 882 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: don't know, it's at the end of the day. So 883 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: when I was flying and all that, I don't know 884 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: if any sense that was that was like some good 885 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: practical advice that news you can use. Yeah, I fully agree. 886 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: You know what I was going to tell you before 887 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: we wrap up here is there's a lot of guys 888 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: that the staff here at a hurricane group who will 889 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: really dig your stuff. Uh, Scott Whittner comes to mind. 890 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: And I remember I once had a conversation with Scott 891 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: about just like various fitness or regiments and stuff, and 892 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 1: I remember not saying to me, I I just do 893 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: what I learned from Clint Emerson, which I think is 894 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: hopefully I'm getting this right, because to be honest, I'm 895 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: not the one who's read it, but he was telling 896 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: me all about it is run fight run, right. Is 897 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: that that your whole um regiment that you have? Yeah, 898 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: so the beginning of so every I truly believe human performance. 899 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: Once again, man, I am not articulating myself very well 900 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: right now, I think you are, but I apologize. You 901 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: sound good you're you're just being critical of yourself, but 902 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: you sound great, man. So the beginning of each book 903 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: hundred Deli Skills is the violent nomad workout. And in 904 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: order for anyone to be self rescue, self relying arty, 905 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: and you've got to take human performance seriously. And human 906 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: performances is it's mental, it's physical. Um, but I'm more 907 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: on the physical side. Um, you've got to be able 908 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: to you've got to be in shape in order to 909 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: take care of yourself and in a bad situation, but 910 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: ideally you're in good enough shape, not just to take 911 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 1: care of yourself but others. So the workout is and 912 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: it's it's still a hit workout, right, it's still a 913 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: high intensity interval training, but it's it's not cross fit. 914 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: And the reason being is because it's very distinct. And 915 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: the four things that you want to put into every 916 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: workout and run Fight Run is an example of it, 917 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: where you you're always gonna incorporate sprints. Um, you're always 918 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: going to incorporate a push exercise, a pull exercise and 919 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: then a rotation and you're not you're not breaking down, 920 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: you're not and you're doing big macro muscle movements because 921 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,399 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not the kind of guy wants to sit, 922 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: you know. I think the beauty across fit as you 923 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,919 Speaker 1: get in, you get out, and you get results. Um. 924 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: The same with the violent, notemad workout. You get it, 925 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it and and you're gonna get results. Um. 926 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: And none of it is is built to look good 927 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: in front of the mirror. It's all about being functionally 928 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: capable to do more for yourself and others. And so 929 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: the the ones that are in the book have a 930 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: heavy bag as as the the weight that you would use, 931 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: and you can buy heavy bags in all different ways 932 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: and that's what makes it kind of nice. That's what 933 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: makes it nice. And you can do it outside. I 934 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: truly believe in working out outside. That's the other piece 935 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: that's different is the elements will burn more calories than 936 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: the work at itself sometimes if it's when it's really 937 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: really hotter, when it's really really cold, so you're getting 938 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: like double triple to burn just by working in that atmosphere. 939 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: And anybody has been in the military knows that. I Mean, 940 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: you go out on an op and it's let's say 941 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: seventy two hours, you come back way lighter than you 942 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: get when you started. Granted, some of that is dehydration, 943 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 1: but most of it is truly you're just burning constantly. 944 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: So embrace the elements is number one. Number two, put 945 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: the pull, push, rotation, and the sprint altogether se sequentially 946 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter what order, but you're gonna do 947 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: your push. Your push could be bench pressed, and you're 948 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: gonna do it to max put on put on, whether 949 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: it's your body weight or less, and you go for 950 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: reps and tell it hurts until you can't do anymore, 951 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,439 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get off that bench and you're gonna 952 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: go do a pull. The pull could be pull ups 953 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: for the day, and you change these up right, and 954 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: now you're gonna do as many pull ups as you can, 955 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: and as soon as you're burned out on that, and 956 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to your rotation. I like to incorporate striking, 957 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: you know, so it can be elbow strikes, It could 958 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: be just hooks on a heavy bag. It can be 959 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: um you know, it can be kicked, it can be 960 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: whatever you want to make it, any different kinds of strikes. 961 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,959 Speaker 1: Because if you're doing if you're striking properly, you're using 962 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: your core to generate the power. Therefore, your work in 963 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: your core um and then as soon as you're done 964 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: with that, do it and tell you're gassed in that 965 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: particular exercise. Then you go do your sprint. Your sprint 966 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: can be, you know, whatever you make it for the day. 967 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: It can be a hundred yard, it can be a 968 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: quarter mile UM. And then you do that five times 969 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: and so you're basically keeping the weight somewhat moderate throughout, 970 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: but you're you're going max reps every time, and five 971 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: rounds later you'll be hurting, but you will get results, 972 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. And it goes fat, 973 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, in the next day, it things it up. 974 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: Your push could be um, you know, it could be anything. 975 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: It could be a dumbbell um presses, you know, so 976 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: you're just doing your shoulders and your working or its 977 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: military press, you know. For the push. Your pull could 978 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: be dead lifts, um, your rotation exercise. If you'd done 979 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: let's say hooks on a hanging heavy bag, take that 980 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: heavy bag, put on the ground and do elbow strikes 981 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: and then go do your sprint, and then you just 982 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: change it up. But you're always doing a push. You're 983 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: always doing a pool, you're always doing a rotation and 984 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: you're always doing a sprint, and now you're ready to 985 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: And the goal at the end of the day is 986 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: if I'm want you're you know, you're you know, you're 987 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: in city X, halfway around the world and you come 988 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: across this bad guy and or a bunch of bad guys. 989 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: Let's say it was the reason for run Fight Run 990 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: is you want you want to have the lungs and 991 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: the heart to be able to kick somebody's ass, do 992 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: a full bore sprint and still have the energy to 993 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: kick someone else's ass at the end. And that's that's 994 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: the goal of the workout. Is is not to just 995 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: fight someone and be throwing up over in the corner 996 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: when you get done. You want to still have the 997 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: energy to continue on. And that's the goal of the 998 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: work up. That's awesome and that's extremely functional. And and 999 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: like I said, I know Scott Wittner and a lot 1000 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 1: of you guys know editor of the load Out Room 1001 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: is like Jen only a huge fan of it. So 1002 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: that's cool, man, And I know he's seeing some results 1003 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: from it. Well good, yeah, I know he posted some 1004 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: pictures I think I read. Oh yeah, if I have 1005 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 1: to see some one more time. No, I think it's 1006 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: awesome that that he's doing that. I'm just breaking ball 1007 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: is a great dude, but um, you know that was 1008 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: and he just genuinely in a private conversation mentioned it 1009 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: to me and reads all your stuff so good. It 1010 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: makes at least one person reading it awesome. Well, hey, 1011 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: I I really hope a lot of you guys listening 1012 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: pick up the hundred Deadly Skills puzzle and activity book 1013 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: skimming through it. I even feel like for you know, 1014 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: like the younger adult I think would be into it too, 1015 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: don't you think. Yeah, it's really it's it's for It's 1016 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: really built for everyone. Um, you know, it's it's got 1017 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: so much variety of stuff in it that if you're 1018 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: a saduku person or if you're you know, a cross 1019 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: word person, it still has those basic puzzles in it, 1020 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: but it has a little bit more just to tap 1021 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: into the parts of the brain as we discussed earlier. Um, 1022 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's it's from your kids all the ways, 1023 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, the old guys sitting Yeah. Absolutely. Um. And 1024 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: like I said, there's the nineteen Deadly Skills Desk calendar. 1025 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: Uh and it's funny. I'm looking at the print that 1026 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: we have here, the hundred Deadly Skills print, so I 1027 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: know it's like that type of thing where you have 1028 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: a new deadly skill. I remember when Jim West came 1029 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: in here, he saw this print and he loved it. 1030 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 1: This is totally Jim West style, the one like you know, 1031 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: the number twenty nine turn a pen into a weapon, 1032 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: and uh, this is probably something I'm just looking at 1033 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: it now that guys should having, you know, the and 1034 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: the neck with a pen. I have a feeling Jim 1035 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: West has done that on many occasions. And I know 1036 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: that you could buy on site to your pen. That's 1037 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's basically a weapon. Yes, yeah, So if 1038 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Matt has kind of like the shortcut, right. 1039 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I started pushing the you know, 1040 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: steel barrel ends a long time ago because because it's 1041 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: great improvised weapon if you can't carry guns or whatever 1042 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: the deal is. But um, and you could probably bring 1043 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 1: out a plane in that type of I would think, right, 1044 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think people would notice. Yeah, my 1045 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 1: the screet. What I have on my side is that 1046 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: the screet stabbing tool, which has a tungsten point and 1047 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: tungsten is something I grew admire with explosives. And you know, 1048 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: if you put tungsten cubes into it like a soap discharge, um, 1049 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: it will shred whoever's you know on the receiving end. 1050 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean it tuck. Tungsten is a badass metal. There's 1051 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: tungsten penetrators screen tip we use. Yeah, yeah exactly. I 1052 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: mean it's used in a lot of different stuff. When 1053 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: you use it, um, you know, especially in this tool, 1054 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: it'll punch through just about anything. You know, So if 1055 00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: you don't have the you know, the strength, Um, it'll 1056 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 1: still do damage. Is kind of the point. So the 1057 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: female is even then it'll still you know, hurt the recipient. 1058 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: So uh, you know. The website is quinn Emerson dot com, 1059 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: which links you to all that. It links to Escape 1060 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: the Wall, Violet Nomad at one, Deadly Skills on Instagram 1061 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 1: and Twitter. Uh. And this is great man. It's been 1062 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: a while since we've had you on, so I always 1063 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: like having you on, of course, and hopefully you'll be 1064 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: back in New York at some point and come in studio. 1065 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 1: I think it'd be awesome. Yeah, I'm actually up there. Um, 1066 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: December seven. Um, it's just it's a quick trip. But yeah, 1067 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: next time I'm up there, Uh maybe for the next book. 1068 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Who knows. I just turned it into the Pentagon. You 1069 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: know that's just gonna take forever. But if you're here 1070 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: in December seven, are you coming to the Hurricane Group party? 1071 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was one. I'm I'm there 1072 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: for star with It, so alright, well maybe we'll stop by. 1073 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: All right. I'm there with the filming with uh Wired 1074 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: magazine all day long, So I don't know. I don't 1075 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: know what their their schedule looks like, but I will 1076 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: text Brandon right now and tell him you're in town. 1077 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: I like, I am pretty damn sure you've got the invite? Okay, yeah, cool, Um, yeah, 1078 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 1: I'll be up there. So yeah, well, uh definitely. I'm 1079 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: sure when the next book comes out, you guys will 1080 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: get hit up as part of the radio tour and 1081 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: all that stuff they set up so right on things 1082 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: like you guys are it seems like every author is 1083 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 1: part of it. Stops with you guys, right. It's kind 1084 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 1: of become a trend these day. Yeah, quite a quite 1085 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: a few of them. Um, we're a hot item now. Yeah, 1086 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: the only the only person who I thought was coming 1087 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: on and going to be in studio and then ended 1088 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: up bowling was General Crystal for the most part. Every Crystal. Yeah, 1089 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: I felt very blown off. You know. It was it 1090 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: like weeks after week of we got the book, I'm 1091 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 1: coming in and then then it was you know, I'm 1092 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: sure he did Fox News and all that stuff, and 1093 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: he's like, it's a shitty little pot. Okay, no, but 1094 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: we appreciate you taking the time to come on with 1095 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: us for you know, forty five minutes or an hour today, Clint, 1096 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, when your book comes out, and be 1097 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: happy to have you back on or before whenever you want. Really, yeah, 1098 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for having me and uh, you know, 1099 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be seeing each other out there. Yeah, awesome, 1100 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: thanks man, thanks for doing this. Yep, thank you, than sure, 1101 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: talk to you Bright. You've been listening to Self Rep Radio. 1102 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: New episodes up every Wednesday and Friday. Follow the show 1103 01:02:37,120 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at self Rep Radio.