Speaker 1: I miss the green, for example, I'm already upset.
Speaker 2: When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 3: And when I find my ball in a brid Egg
Speaker 3: Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg Friday Friday Bride Egg, Lie,
Speaker 3: I'm about ready to run off of the course. Ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the Frida
Speaker 3: Egg Podcast. I am joined again by Kyle Nathan. We're
Speaker 3: going to do another mail bag. I think we'll make
Speaker 3: this a close to weekly thing, so keep the questions
Speaker 3: coming and uh, Kyle, welcome on.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, excited to do it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you watch much of the PGA this weekend?
Speaker 2: I did. I enjoyed it. I think that it was
Speaker 2: nice to see Justine get his major win. I think
Speaker 2: it was one of those things where you knew was coming,
Speaker 2: kind of like where I feel like Ricky Fowler's game
Speaker 2: is now too, where you know it's going to probably come,
Speaker 2: you just don't know when, and it's going to be
Speaker 2: an exciting time and I'm happy for him and happy
Speaker 2: for golf.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it's you know, he seemingly got into contention
Speaker 3: at the US Open. It was like the first time
Speaker 3: in major, in a major in contention, he struggled mightily
Speaker 3: on Sunday, but you could see that coming after he
Speaker 3: shot a nine under sixty three the day before to
Speaker 3: get into the final group. It almost would have been
Speaker 3: a blessing if he had missed that final group. But
Speaker 3: then you know, he struggles sure enough next time in contention,
Speaker 3: probably a lot more comfortable, and I think he benefit
Speaker 3: from not being in that final group and gets the
Speaker 3: job done. I mean, Kiszner would see was leaking oil
Speaker 3: all day, Chris Stroud, he is very patiently leaking oil
Speaker 3: after the first two rounds, and Hideki just doesn't seem
Speaker 3: as sharp. So it was wide open and JT just
Speaker 3: hit the best shots and made the most putts he did.
Speaker 2: He's kind of getting the reputation of a pretty pretty
Speaker 2: good closer. He didn't, you know, the US Open. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say that was a closing opportunity because he wasn't
Speaker 2: really in it, you know, down the stretch on Sunday.
Speaker 2: But if you look at his track record, he's very
Speaker 2: very good when he is in it down the stretch,
Speaker 2: and that's exciting to see. That's one of the you know,
Speaker 2: characteristics that made Tiger soappealing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has a gas pedal like the obviously you know,
Speaker 3: the scoring record at at Sony and the fifty nine
Speaker 3: and then the sixty three. Like when that guy's on
Speaker 3: and the putters hot, it's something else. He he's right
Speaker 3: there in terms of explosiveness with a a Rory Dustin Johnson.
Speaker 3: When he's on, it's I think it'll be interesting to see,
Speaker 3: you know, career wise, he's twenty four. One major where
Speaker 3: he gets too. I think he sets up really well
Speaker 3: for PGA championships, but like us, Opened might be a
Speaker 3: little bit different, different story and Open championships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think given his age, he'll develop the necessary
Speaker 2: facets of his game to adjust to a you know,
Speaker 2: an Oakmont Open setup or even a British Open setup.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, he's just twenty four, so he's
Speaker 2: got you know, eight years till he supposedly reaches his
Speaker 2: prime eight to nine years, so we could see a
Speaker 2: lot of majors from him.
Speaker 3: Were you disappointed in anyone from the week.
Speaker 2: I don't know disappointed. I was surprised Mickelson missed the
Speaker 2: cut given his track record at the Wells Fargo. I
Speaker 2: was surprised. You know, Rory never never got it going.
Speaker 2: DJ never really got it going. You know, those those
Speaker 2: were some surprising things. But I feel like the PGA Championship,
Speaker 2: the Open is pretty unpredictable, the Open Championship, But the
Speaker 2: PGA Championship you usually get some interesting guys in the
Speaker 2: top there that you don't you didn't see coming, and
Speaker 2: certainly with Stroud and a few of the others, you
Speaker 2: just you just never know what the PGA I feel.
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, it's I wonder why the PGA yields so
Speaker 3: many fluky winners.
Speaker 2: It is strange. I don't I don't have a good
Speaker 2: answer for it. It does kind of seem more like
Speaker 2: a regular tour event than a major. I guess, which
Speaker 2: might be a problem the tournament has, but I don't really.
Speaker 2: You know, you look back and you have some pretty
Speaker 2: bizarre winners. But you can say the saying, you know,
Speaker 2: Michael Campbell when the US opened, Todd Hamilton won the
Speaker 2: British Hope. You know, you get some some different winners
Speaker 2: in the other majors. It just seems like, I agree,
Speaker 2: you get the Sean mckeel's and you know, those type
Speaker 2: of players at the PGA a little more often.
Speaker 3: Sean mkheel wy Yang. Yeah, it could be that it
Speaker 3: could go to the golf courses too. I just think
Speaker 3: they played just stinky golf courses.
Speaker 1: So it's just the better.
Speaker 3: Like Augusta is a perfect example, Like the best players
Speaker 3: win in Augusta because it's the best golf course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Augusta doesn't really have many you know, Schwartzel was
Speaker 2: a big surprise, but then he turned out to be,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the top players in the world.
Speaker 2: Bob Emmelman got hurt.
Speaker 3: Bubba only wins it like five courses. But there are
Speaker 3: always pretty good golf courses. True, But let's get into
Speaker 3: the questions. We got a ton of them here, and
Speaker 3: we got a lot of questions about Louis whose days
Speaker 3: and most people probably don't know that you're like the
Speaker 3: biggest Louis fan in the world.
Speaker 2: I am a Louis fanboy. I don't even know why.
Speaker 2: I don't even I was trying to think yesterday how
Speaker 2: it even started. I think it started out as a
Speaker 2: joke and I just I put money on him to
Speaker 2: win a couple of tournaments and decided that I was
Speaker 2: just going to commit to that plan and just been
Speaker 2: a big Louis fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even though he's kind of burned you. He never
Speaker 3: wins in the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 2: I know I need I need him to go back
Speaker 2: to the other hemisphere and start wagering on those.
Speaker 3: So Justin Anderson wants to know is Louis a Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer or will he be by the end of
Speaker 3: his career. Obviously that has a lot to do with
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 2: As much as I want to say yes to this,
Speaker 2: I think he needs one more win in the United
Speaker 2: States or even I'd say, I'd say win in the
Speaker 2: United States, or another Open championship. I think he's really borderline.
Speaker 2: He has eleven wins and they're pretty major events too.
Speaker 2: You know, he's won a major. But I just think
Speaker 2: he needs the one win because it's not like he's
Speaker 2: putting up Montgomery type seasons, you know, not you know
Speaker 2: internationally where he's gonna win the Order of Merit six
Speaker 2: seven times in a row, whatever it was. So I
Speaker 2: think he just needs another win, and I do think
Speaker 2: he'll get it, So we'll have to see. I think
Speaker 2: that's a to be determined.
Speaker 3: I it's pretty crazy when you look at his runner ups,
Speaker 3: so he has which is well documented. A lot of
Speaker 3: people have been talking about this. He's he's runnered up
Speaker 3: a runner up finish in every single major championship. But
Speaker 3: he also has a runner up at the WGC match
Speaker 3: play and the players and I think Abu Dabi.
Speaker 2: Good player shirt this year. I thought he had that
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who nobody saw see Wu coming.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 3: So just it's so hard to Sometimes I feel like
Speaker 3: winning's overrated and golf just because it's so hard to do.
Speaker 3: It might be like the underrated, under overrated thing. But
Speaker 3: when you finished second in every major, that's got to
Speaker 3: get you something, even though it gets you really nothing
Speaker 3: because nobody remembers that. But that that that's got to
Speaker 3: help him out.
Speaker 2: He should be in the Hall of Fame. Just from
Speaker 2: that video he posted last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah he did make like a million dollars is flying
Speaker 3: a private jet, which you know, it makes you not
Speaker 3: feel his pain as much for finishing second again, right,
Speaker 3: But he's probably just he loves just chilling on his farm.
Speaker 3: That's like I think the career scope of Louis is
Speaker 3: this guy. He doesn't golf is like a secondary thing.
Speaker 3: Golf is he he works, which is golf to live,
Speaker 3: Like He's not a lived a work guy like a
Speaker 3: lot of these guys out here. He he really doesn't
Speaker 3: care about golf as much as a you know, Jordan Spieth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think that's one of the things I've
Speaker 2: always liked about him is he just wants to go
Speaker 2: back and you know, roll in the hay.
Speaker 3: Get a new tractor, and tend to the farm.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I think he's got vineyards now too. So that's what
Speaker 3: I didn't notice about the South African guys like Ernie
Speaker 3: Els kind of didn't really you know, he especially once
Speaker 3: he hit forty, he cared so much more about things
Speaker 3: outside of golf than competitive golf. And I think Louis
Speaker 3: is the same way. Charles Schwartzel is the same way.
Speaker 3: I don't know much about Brandon Grace, but but you know,
Speaker 3: these South Africans are kind of kind of different breed.
Speaker 2: It's interesting there. Yeah, you're right, it's.
Speaker 1: Except for Gary Player, of course.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, whack job.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're all rebelling against Gary Player.
Speaker 2: He set a poor example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like their teen angst against father Gary Player.
Speaker 3: So here's a here's another interesting Louis question. Is is
Speaker 3: one of the things I love about Louis is he
Speaker 3: shifts his mattress from from from tournament to tournament. And
Speaker 3: Mark Caverhill wants to know if that's part of his
Speaker 3: net Jet sponsorship or UPS sponsorship, and he wants to
Speaker 3: know if he has two in case one gets delayed,
Speaker 3: And I actually asked a bunch of people at the
Speaker 3: Players about this. And in the US, there's a guy
Speaker 3: that takes all this stuff from one stop to another
Speaker 3: on the tour, and that's the guy who takes Louis
Speaker 3: mattress from tour stop to tour stop.
Speaker 1: So like, people will.
Speaker 3: Give this guy on Sunday all the golf bags and
Speaker 3: he loads him up into like his trailer or something
Speaker 3: and drives them to the next spot and they're there.
Speaker 3: They're always guarantee tea to be there by Monday morning.
Speaker 3: So I think Louis does the same thing with his mattress,
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure how he does it.
Speaker 2: On the European tour, guessing UPS is a huge part
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 3: And sorry, but like how much I imagine you could
Speaker 3: just buy a new mattress everywhere you went.
Speaker 2: Could if he keeps playing like that, that's for sure,
Speaker 2: But he might have it. You know, it might be
Speaker 2: worn in just right. It might be his special special mattress.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say he only has one because sometimes a
Speaker 2: good Louis thing to do, as an avid Louis watcher
Speaker 2: is he starts starts off tournaments very poorly. So I'm
Speaker 2: guessing that his mattress usually probably doesn't arrive and then
Speaker 2: he'll shoot, you know, seventy six the opening round and
Speaker 2: then three straight sixty fours after his mattress gets in there.
Speaker 2: So I think he should look into getting a backup.
Speaker 3: I think they should rotate him, so one should go.
Speaker 3: If that's the case, one should be sent there pre tournament.
Speaker 3: You know, you should almost have two and the next
Speaker 3: one's going to the next stop before he before he
Speaker 3: even gets there, is there.
Speaker 1: A week early.
Speaker 3: He can't be genius, can't be jeopardizing your sleep.
Speaker 2: Nope, all right. Staying with Hall of Fame potential inductees,
Speaker 2: what do you think of Hideki Matsuyama and can we
Speaker 2: win a MA someday? That's from Robert Bernard.
Speaker 3: I think Hideki is going to win a major. It's
Speaker 3: not a if. Obviously, there's no guarantees. But you look
Speaker 3: at the guys track record. I think he has seven
Speaker 3: top ten finishes in majors and he's played in twenty
Speaker 3: one total, so a third of the time he's finished
Speaker 3: in the top ten. And that includes like as an
Speaker 3: amateur at twenty one in the Masters.
Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 3: I mean, you put yourself close to contention enough, you're
Speaker 3: eventually gonna find it.
Speaker 1: And I think this is.
Speaker 3: He just needs to become a better putter. In my estimation,
Speaker 3: what do.
Speaker 2: You think I was gonna say that exact same thing.
Speaker 2: I think he could win twelve majors if he improves
Speaker 2: his putting. If that's easier said than done. Sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: a tiger can't change its stripes, but sometimes it can.
Speaker 2: I think is a hard thing to exponentially improve at.
Speaker 2: I think of all the things, that's the hardest to
Speaker 2: go from being a poor putter to a great putter,
Speaker 2: mostly because it's all mental. But he's got the ball striking.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's to be number one in the world.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody that would doubt that. I
Speaker 2: just think that if he can learn to putt, you
Speaker 2: don't see many majors one with guys that didn't putt well.
Speaker 2: With the exception of exception of Jason Duffner at Okill
Speaker 2: where he was, you know, stoning it to three feet
Speaker 2: every hole and missed half of them. You don't see
Speaker 2: poor putting win majors. But if he can get that right,
Speaker 2: he can win, I mean, as many as he wants.
Speaker 2: If he can't, he's going to have to have a
Speaker 2: week where he just you know, like a Duffner esque
Speaker 2: week where he's you know, hitting the ball on a blanket.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that that's the thing too that goes
Speaker 3: a little bit unnoticed is that Hideki's ball striking up
Speaker 3: big time over the weekend. So had he hit the
Speaker 3: ball the way he hit it the first two rounds
Speaker 3: and last week at Bridgestone on the weekend, he might
Speaker 3: have won. So obviously, you can't hit the ball perfect
Speaker 3: all the time, but with the way, there's gonna be
Speaker 3: one of these weeks where the convergence is going to
Speaker 3: happen and he blew. He blew blows people out when
Speaker 3: he when he plays well. And that's something we saw
Speaker 3: with Tiger. That's something we see with all the elite players,
Speaker 3: is that when they really put it all together, nobody
Speaker 3: has a shot, and and he's just been so close
Speaker 3: so much. I think, you know, he's almost like a
Speaker 3: Sergio Garcia at this point on steroids in terms of
Speaker 3: how many close calls and majors he's are, like how
Speaker 3: many times he's been in contention for how short of
Speaker 3: a career he's had.
Speaker 2: They have similar similar golf games.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, just unbelievable. Te de Green all the shots,
Speaker 3: but the putter just doesn't seem to make enough putts.
Speaker 1: But I think I think.
Speaker 3: He's it's just a I would I would bet he
Speaker 3: would get one in the next two years at the very.
Speaker 2: Least, I would agree.
Speaker 3: So, uh oh, Chad from Deer Park is back. Chad.
Speaker 3: Chad from Deer Park is So this week's event is
Speaker 3: the windhom and it decides who stays and goes from
Speaker 3: the tour. So he wants to know who you want
Speaker 3: from outside the top one twenty five to make a
Speaker 3: charge and get.
Speaker 2: In from the top. From outside the top one twenty five,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Sam Saunders. And I'm gonna say that because,
Speaker 2: as everybody knows, he's the grandson of Holly Saunders, and
Speaker 2: it'd be cool to get her and him, you know,
Speaker 2: at the events. And also he's a pretty good I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a little litle bit streaky obviously, but when he
Speaker 2: plays well, he can play real well. So that's why
Speaker 2: I'd like to see make it to the next event.
Speaker 3: I didn't know Hawley Saunders had a grandson.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Sam, Sammy.
Speaker 3: Sammy, Well, I'm gonna go with my boy. Ken Duke.
Speaker 3: The he played the greatest round of golf in the
Speaker 3: history of golf last year at the Players.
Speaker 2: He sure did.
Speaker 3: He shot a sixty five that day. That was an
Speaker 3: incredible round he got. He wouldn't even be in this
Speaker 3: situation if it if the Players had a real exemption thing,
Speaker 3: like who finishes in a third and in a huge
Speaker 3: championship and doesn't get invited back next year?
Speaker 1: Ken Duke shouldn't have been there.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable really, and we all know he dominates Sawgrass.
Speaker 3: So I personally, I think that he deserves a special
Speaker 3: exemption next year for just the mismanagement of exemptions that
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour clearly. You know, it's almost like there's
Speaker 3: a Ken Duke vendetta on tour.
Speaker 2: I can't Duke Vendetta, oh god.
Speaker 3: But yeah, close second is Charlie Wee. He's he's a
Speaker 3: long way out, He's at two eighteen. But I think
Speaker 3: we just need to see a little bit more Charlie
Speaker 3: Wie in events. He thrilled the world at the Zurich
Speaker 3: with him and kJ Toy.
Speaker 2: As a team, thrilled the world. All right here, here's
Speaker 2: a good question. Will Thrasher from Warsaw, Indiana. The prevailing
Speaker 2: wisdom seems to indicate that Phil is a lock for
Speaker 2: the President's Cup, but I don't see it. His game
Speaker 2: is nowhere right now without bones, he seems lost. Would
Speaker 2: love to see Duffner picked instead. He has already buddies
Speaker 2: with Ricky, JT and company. Would be a great veteran
Speaker 2: president and natural best ball pairing with JT his usual
Speaker 2: practice round partner. Would like your thoughts.
Speaker 3: So I think it's it's well documented.
Speaker 1: I think Phil is.
Speaker 3: Very overrated to the player all the time. I would
Speaker 3: definitely agree he doesn't by by form, he doesn't deserve
Speaker 3: a spot on the President's Cup team. He's really done
Speaker 3: nothing when he's gotten into contention, he's faded. But there's
Speaker 3: this whole experience thing, and you know he's gonna be
Speaker 3: a future cap like, there's no way he gets left
Speaker 3: off this team. There's just no possible way he does.
Speaker 3: Like the player i'd like to see in there instead
Speaker 3: of him is Brian Harmon, but that's not gonna happen,
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, And long, long story short, there's
Speaker 3: no chance. I saw Patrick Reid moved in and into
Speaker 3: the top ten too, So they've got to two picks
Speaker 3: and it'll be interesting because now Chapel's outside Harmon, Duffner, Woodland, Snatecker, Steele,
Speaker 3: and then it's Phil.
Speaker 1: So who would you like to see?
Speaker 3: I mean, do you think there's any way Phil gets
Speaker 3: left off?
Speaker 2: I don't. I'd like to see Brian Harmon out of
Speaker 2: everybody you mentioned, I don't see Phil getting left off.
Speaker 2: But you know, it surprised everybody when the US national
Speaker 2: team left Land and Donovan out, which is kind of
Speaker 2: a similar you know, end of his career, struggling a bit.
Speaker 2: But I just can't see one of his contemporaries leaving
Speaker 2: him off the team. If it was you know, somebody else, maybe,
Speaker 2: but I just I can't see Michelson being left off.
Speaker 3: That is an interesting dynamic about these team events. It's
Speaker 3: like the veterans have such an advantage over younger guys
Speaker 3: because the guys picking them are like their buddies that
Speaker 3: they've played on tour with forever. Right, It's you know,
Speaker 3: that's a the added benefit as a veteran.
Speaker 1: I think that I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, I think the veteran presence is like such
Speaker 3: garbage when it comes to these team competitions, like you
Speaker 3: need to have a veteran in the locker room. Like
Speaker 3: it's golf, like, I mean, what's what's Phil gonna say
Speaker 3: to you before a match that could possibly like make
Speaker 3: you play better? Is he going to say, like play better?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I think it's especially in golf. I mean
Speaker 2: it just seems I mean there's a certain element of
Speaker 2: you know, pairing guys together that have you know, one
Speaker 2: guy makes a ton of pars, real steady, the other guy,
Speaker 2: you know, makes a lot of birdies. That makes sense,
Speaker 2: But you know, you don't need pods to discuss it
Speaker 2: and secret committees and whatever they're talking about. You know,
Speaker 2: I just I don't think that's necessary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm so out on on strategy.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's an individual game.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: It's so all right.
Speaker 3: Barry w had a great question. Did you know that
Speaker 3: the Solheim Cup was this week?
Speaker 2: First off, I absolutely did not.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing it was somewhere in August. I didn't
Speaker 3: know it was this week. Though, likelihood of any gimme
Speaker 3: controversies slash tears, slash seven hour rounds this time around,
Speaker 3: he'll hang up and listen.
Speaker 2: I will say that likelihood is high, and I really
Speaker 2: hope it happens. I think that's been some of the
Speaker 2: great drama of team golf is you never know when
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to replay a shot. You never know
Speaker 2: when there's gonna be tears, you know, streamers in the
Speaker 2: hair flying. You just never know, and I think that
Speaker 2: should be the way golf is. So I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to any incident. I won't watch the
Speaker 2: tournament at all, but I will rely on Twitter to
Speaker 2: provide me some good video of tears.
Speaker 3: I was talking about this with somebody the other day,
Speaker 3: is how the LPGA Tour's two big moments this year
Speaker 3: was when Lexi missed marked her ball just and they're
Speaker 3: just horrible handling of the situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, waiting a.
Speaker 3: Day Informia in the middle of her last round. I
Speaker 3: it was they just botched this whole thing, and they
Speaker 3: got all these these viewers in and everybody stayed, but
Speaker 3: everybody was so mad at the tour.
Speaker 1: They were infuriated with the tour.
Speaker 3: So then the next time they kind of got right
Speaker 3: into the spotlight and it was a big moment. Was
Speaker 3: the was the round that playoff between I can't remember
Speaker 3: who it was, but they kept playing this horrible golf
Speaker 3: hole over and over and over again, and it was
Speaker 3: taking absurdly long because of how long these women were
Speaker 3: taking to play. And it was like the two big
Speaker 3: moments in the LPGA season have been just marred and
Speaker 3: controversy and everybody being like, what the hell is going
Speaker 3: on on this tour?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I expect I.
Speaker 2: Can add all a women's golf in there too with that.
Speaker 2: You know, the whole raked pot in the women's Junior Am.
Speaker 2: Was it a gimme?
Speaker 1: Was it not?
Speaker 2: The whole thing? You can add that in there too.
Speaker 3: I you know, are women secretly more competitive than men?
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're secretly more competitive. I think
Speaker 2: society probably has a certain, you know, view on their competitiveness, probably,
Speaker 2: you know, just from from a long, long period of time.
Speaker 2: Thinking one and then maybe it shocks people that they
Speaker 2: act and think another way. I don't know, but it is.
Speaker 2: It is interesting that the three biggest moments of women's
Speaker 2: golf for all controversies.
Speaker 1: I don't for my day's catting.
Speaker 3: I feel like Lady's Day was always way more stingy
Speaker 3: on gimmes than Men's Day. And it's it's it's very interesting.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting dynamic. But we'll see what happens this week.
Speaker 3: I feel like we might we might get in some
Speaker 3: trouble with those answers, so we're gonna move on.
Speaker 1: Uh do you Uh?
Speaker 3: We got a couple of questions about midim events, So
Speaker 3: what are What are some of your favorite midiam events
Speaker 3: that are non USGA slash state events?
Speaker 2: Some of my personal favorite that I've played. I really
Speaker 2: like the Gasparilla Invitational in Tampa. It's really fun. It's
Speaker 2: a it's a fun atmosphere. Obviously, the golf's great. You
Speaker 2: get a really good field, but it's kind of the
Speaker 2: whole package for that event. I really like Carlton Woods.
Speaker 2: You get a great golf course and they treat you well.
Speaker 2: I haven't played the Crane or the Cup Crump, but
Speaker 2: obviously those are very highly regarded. Four balls that j R.
Speaker 2: Williams at Oak Hill is spectacular. The golf course, the people,
Speaker 2: the way the tournaments run. Champions was an awesome event
Speaker 2: down in Houston. They treat you great, They make you
Speaker 2: feel like you know that they want you there. If
Speaker 2: you're in Chicago, I know a lot of your listeners are.
Speaker 2: The Meritam's really good. That is you play for a membership,
Speaker 2: you get a year membership, you play I think it
Speaker 2: is twenty seven holes over two days. And obviously Merritt
Speaker 2: Club is awesome. The golf course and you get to
Speaker 2: you get to be a member there if you win.
Speaker 2: The International down here in Florida is another good one.
Speaker 2: There's so many, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I got an email the other day for one and
Speaker 2: I never heard of it in my life, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: this looks awesome. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that almost all the country clubs in almost
Speaker 3: every city have a lot of great events.
Speaker 1: I was I've been thinking about playing a couple.
Speaker 3: I just haven't had time this summer to do any
Speaker 3: But like next year, I think I probably go up
Speaker 3: to They have one at Kingsley Club up in northern Michigan,
Speaker 3: which is really great, really great golf course. Again, if
Speaker 3: you win, you win a membership.
Speaker 1: I got. I had a.
Speaker 3: Reader email me about one at their course. That's like
Speaker 3: the Country Club of North Carolina. I was looking at
Speaker 3: that one. It looks really cool. It's in the fall.
Speaker 2: There's that course is awesome country in North Carolina.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks looks great. So I'm a golf course snop,
Speaker 3: so I always if I'm going to go do one
Speaker 3: of those, it's probably gonna be at a nice course
Speaker 3: because I don't want to spend four days at a
Speaker 3: bad one. But yeah, I guess Marilla I might have
Speaker 3: to do this year. They looks like an awesome event.
Speaker 3: So let's see another question. Here's a good one. What
Speaker 3: are other this is timely with the PGA from Sam Schumer.
Speaker 3: What are other regular tour stops that should be used
Speaker 3: as major venues but get overlooked.
Speaker 2: You know, A couple came to mind right away, and
Speaker 2: one's actually a web dot com course, and that's Victoria
Speaker 2: National outside of Evansville. That golf course. I've played it once.
Speaker 2: It's it's extremely hard from all the way back. Usually
Speaker 2: they have the web there and I think they're up
Speaker 2: a few t's on a lot of the holes. It's
Speaker 2: extremely hard, it's extremely good. I just I don't know
Speaker 2: if associated the PGA or the USGA would be willing
Speaker 2: to go to Evansville. That that remains to be seen.
Speaker 2: But the golf course is certainly more than capable of
Speaker 2: having an event. And Mirfield, I think Mierfield would be
Speaker 2: a great PGA championship site and I'd like, I'd love
Speaker 2: to see it there.
Speaker 3: You know, I heard that they tried to go to Mirfield,
Speaker 3: but uh Jack said that the only place in Columbus
Speaker 3: that could host the Memorial was Sciota and they said
Speaker 3: no because they and they wanted to move it to
Speaker 3: Double Eagle, and because of that, they lost out on
Speaker 3: on hosting a major. I think it was a well,
Speaker 3: I think it was a PGA.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. It might have been a US Open.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but but one of the but the
Speaker 3: deal was, you know that you had to move the
Speaker 3: other event, and they but that would be a cool spot.
Speaker 3: I think another one would be Ironomic that hosted absolutely
Speaker 3: the Tigers Tournament quicken Loans a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: just got restored by Gil Hans. Players just rave about
Speaker 3: that place. I mean, it's one of many great great
Speaker 3: golf courses in Philadelphia and it's it's tough, challenging.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, I think.
Speaker 3: You get a lot of good I mean, Riviera obviously
Speaker 3: hasn't hosted a major in a long time, and it
Speaker 3: keeps being linked to it. They have the US AM
Speaker 3: this week, so I'm sure that they're going to get
Speaker 3: a major championship and announced in the next five years.
Speaker 3: That would be another obvious one. And then if you
Speaker 3: moved the if you move to any of them, you
Speaker 3: know the PGA. Everybody always talks about the PGA moving
Speaker 3: to like another country, which would never happen because it's
Speaker 3: the Professional Golfers Association of America.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it would be cool to.
Speaker 3: Have it at like a sand belt course like Royal
Speaker 3: Melbourne or or Kingston Heath in Australia. So all right,
Speaker 3: let's uh, since we're talking about the PGA. This is
Speaker 3: from the guys who mow.
Speaker 2: Will the PGA ever revert back to a match play major? Also,
Speaker 2: what do you think about mixed alternate shot Olympic Golf
Speaker 2: Men's DEAs?
Speaker 3: So I'll start with the PGA question, I don't think
Speaker 3: it ever will move back to a matchplay major, And
Speaker 3: I don't think a major championship should be all match
Speaker 3: play because it just becomes too fluky, like you can
Speaker 3: play really bad every day and get to like the finals,
Speaker 3: or win if your opponent plays worse. So I think
Speaker 3: the way you'd have to do it if you did
Speaker 3: make it a match play major, would be similar to
Speaker 3: what the Western m does and do either fifty four
Speaker 3: or seventy two holes of stroke play and then cut
Speaker 3: it to sixteen guys, and those sixteen guys play match play,
Speaker 3: in which I think would be really cool. I mean,
Speaker 3: it would be like a week long thing, but it
Speaker 3: would be awesome. I think people would love it. If
Speaker 3: you were seriously looking for a way for the PGA
Speaker 3: to become, you know, not the fourth major, you would
Speaker 3: make that kind of format.
Speaker 2: I I would love that format. I just I think
Speaker 2: there's almost zero percent chance it would happen because of
Speaker 2: the TV money. I think that if you're going to
Speaker 2: have a the final on Sunday, you're and you you know,
Speaker 2: you get no disrespect to anybody if you get like
Speaker 2: Rod Pampling and you know Scott hend or somebody in
Speaker 2: the finals. This the people aren't going to watch, and
Speaker 2: that's that's that's the major driver of of golf is
Speaker 2: the TV ratings right now. And so I just don't
Speaker 2: think it would ever and it would never happen, but
Speaker 2: I would love it too.
Speaker 3: The other issue is when when there's only two guys
Speaker 3: on a golf course, it's it's really kind of boring.
Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of debtor.
Speaker 3: You'd have to I mean, CBS actually might do okay
Speaker 3: with it because it seemed like there's only two guys
Speaker 3: on the golf course.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but just.
Speaker 2: Go with their normal, normal, normal broadcast.
Speaker 3: They'd be like, oh great, we could show just as
Speaker 3: many commercials and and you know, fill it with enough
Speaker 3: fluff and we don't really have to do anything different.
Speaker 2: We can watch Jim Nance and his dog hang out.
Speaker 3: As for mixed alternate shot in the Olympic, in Olympic golf,
Speaker 3: I think this has legs.
Speaker 1: I would liken it a lot too.
Speaker 3: The way the Olympics does figure skating, where they have
Speaker 3: individual they have mixed figure skating, and then they have
Speaker 3: freestyle figure skating, which.
Speaker 2: I don't forget ice dancing ice dancing, big fan of
Speaker 2: ice dancing.
Speaker 3: I would I would parallel golf to figure skating.
Speaker 2: It's I don't know if I want to say that,
Speaker 2: but I will say that I would absolutely be all
Speaker 2: for the mixed alternate shot Olympic golf. I think it's
Speaker 2: a great idea and I'm all for it. They should
Speaker 2: definitely do that. I'd rather have that than an actual competition.
Speaker 2: To be honest, who like they had?
Speaker 3: Who would be the favorite? South Korea or America?
Speaker 2: Oh? Good question. I would say, obviously, who's America Lexi
Speaker 2: and speak or DJ or DJ. Let's let's keep DJ
Speaker 2: away from her. Let's go speak and Lexi and uh.
Speaker 2: South Korea would be.
Speaker 3: It would be the girl that's on top. Say you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: We'd be favored.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be. It would be almost like an
Speaker 3: advantage disadvanced. I think we'd have to be favored. But
Speaker 3: they'd have more quality team. I don't know that'd be that.
Speaker 2: Be deeper, they'd have a better They have a lot
Speaker 2: more teams that could win it.
Speaker 3: Probably, But going back to the Solheim Cup, the biggest
Speaker 3: problem with the Solheim Cup is that it should be
Speaker 3: South Korea versus the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really should be, like.
Speaker 3: That would be entertaining, Like that is what the event
Speaker 3: should be because they are they are the most dominant
Speaker 3: country for women's golf.
Speaker 1: Like, let's stop tiptoeing around the subject. Like they dominate.
Speaker 3: Like the world versus South Korea would be one hundred
Speaker 3: times more captivating than US versus Europe, And I think
Speaker 3: European Women's tour is like going out of business.
Speaker 2: I would probably be more inclined to watch US versus
Speaker 2: South Korea versus the world, I should say, yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I mean I get we've got to
Speaker 3: have like Lydia co on our team. It'd be in
Speaker 3: the Jutana Guards. Yeah, and then yeah, it would be
Speaker 3: super exciting. That's what they'd need to do if if
Speaker 3: anybody's hockey.
Speaker 2: Kind of did something like that with their All Star game, right,
Speaker 2: they went North America.
Speaker 1: And versus the world versus the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that got some some spike in ratings at
Speaker 2: least m hm.
Speaker 3: So, staying on the PGA talk, the angry golfer from
Speaker 3: glen View chimes in again. He wants to know about
Speaker 3: slow play on tour, he seems. He says it's it's
Speaker 3: just disgusting.
Speaker 2: I think it's disgusting too. I hate playing slow. I
Speaker 2: would rather not play than play over five hours. That's
Speaker 2: that's or even over four and a half. That's how
Speaker 2: much I hate slow play. But I get these guys
Speaker 2: are competing for a major, and you know, it's their livelihood.
Speaker 2: And you know, like Day had a comment before the
Speaker 2: season started that he was like, you know, this is
Speaker 2: my I'm trying to win a major. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: however long I can. And you know that they can
Speaker 2: say that, but at the end of the day, there
Speaker 2: was a there was a there was a survey of
Speaker 2: PGA Tour players. Eighty four percent of them said slow
Speaker 2: play was a major problem. So if eighty four percent
Speaker 2: of them think it's a problem, then somebody has to
Speaker 2: hold them accountable. I think I think you should have
Speaker 2: a I mean, it's hard to differentiate between guys and groups,
Speaker 2: which is why the USGA does the policy where they
Speaker 2: you know, first they penalize the whole group, then ask questions,
Speaker 2: but there has to be accountability otherwise they the sport
Speaker 2: is going to continue to lose fans. It just it
Speaker 2: takes too long. And if it's if kids are watching
Speaker 2: these guys play in six hours, they're gonna think that,
Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna think it's okay. I'd like to
Speaker 2: see a lot more penalties.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the other thing that goes unnoticed a
Speaker 3: lot of times is like Jason Day is unaffected by
Speaker 3: slow play because he plays really slow. But what about
Speaker 3: the guy in your group that's like a quick player,
Speaker 3: like you're it's kind of almost like gamesmanship.
Speaker 1: So oh, it totally is.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a fast player, and like in tournaments,
Speaker 3: I kind of just shut it off. But like when
Speaker 3: I'm playing casual golf and somebody's really slow, it just
Speaker 3: it irritates the shit out of me. And I think,
Speaker 3: like just just be mindful. Like there's something that something
Speaker 3: that bothers me in society more than anything is when
Speaker 3: people are completely like blind to their surroundings and just
Speaker 3: like you're like, how do you not like notice like
Speaker 3: you did you just like by you getting what you
Speaker 3: want are completely like screwing over the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That really bugs me. And that's kind of what that's
Speaker 3: what slow play is on the PGA tour is like,
Speaker 3: especially like when you have these regular events where where
Speaker 3: like guys have to play behind you, or like say
Speaker 3: you have the first tea time off and you wrap
Speaker 3: around and you get behind somebody like the leaders, and
Speaker 3: you know they're just so slow like that.
Speaker 1: That's wrong. That has to change.
Speaker 2: More penalties, Yep, more penalties. Okay, let's do an architecture question.
Speaker 2: Do architects find the great holes than the routing or
Speaker 2: they find the routing and create the best holes possible.
Speaker 2: That's from Porter Golf.
Speaker 3: So I'm not an architect, but one of the things
Speaker 3: that fascinates me the most about architecture is routing, and
Speaker 3: I think everybody does it different. I heard a story
Speaker 3: about Bill Cooorr and I've been trying to to.
Speaker 1: Get this fact checked.
Speaker 3: But Bill Coorr used to I don't know if he
Speaker 3: still does it anymore, but he used to camp on
Speaker 3: the ground that he would get for a golf course
Speaker 3: for like two or three weeks, and he'd stay up
Speaker 3: at all hours of night watching animals roam the land
Speaker 3: because he was convinced that they knew the easiest way
Speaker 3: to walk around the land. So he'd wrap the golf
Speaker 3: courses so it was easy to walk.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Think it would be fascinating just to walk around with
Speaker 3: an architect on a piece of land that they are building,
Speaker 3: just to see how they do it. But for the
Speaker 3: most part, I think they find the most dramatic features,
Speaker 3: so whether it be like a downhill, you know, with
Speaker 3: a great view, and they put holes they want there,
Speaker 3: and then they route around those kind of key holes
Speaker 3: and figure out how to connect them. I to go.
Speaker 1: Back to the Bill Kohr thing.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a famous quote about Sandhills where he
Speaker 3: had you know, tens of thousands of acres of land.
Speaker 3: Is you know, there's like they had something thousands of
Speaker 3: golf holes that they found when they were walking this land,
Speaker 3: and it was just a matter of narrowing it down
Speaker 3: to eighteen the eighteen best ones.
Speaker 1: So kind of nutty, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean talk about like a I don't think i'd
Speaker 3: The worst part I think is an architect would be
Speaker 3: like I'd always be second guessing myself, like did I
Speaker 3: actually pick the right holes?
Speaker 2: All right, let's stick with architecture. Kind of an architecture question.
Speaker 2: HM wants to know water hazard, power, rakings, rankings, oceans, lakes, creeks,
Speaker 2: et cetera.
Speaker 3: I hate all water hazards. For the most part, I
Speaker 3: hate lakes. Lakes are by far at the bottom, especially
Speaker 3: man made lakes. I think we need to change this
Speaker 3: to man made lakes and regular lakes. You know, if
Speaker 3: the lake was there, then that's way better, But man
Speaker 3: made lakes are the worst. I would say. I think
Speaker 3: oceans are great for views, but from a golf course perspective,
Speaker 3: maybe a little overrated. So I actually love a thin,
Speaker 3: little narrow creek because it's subtle and it like if
Speaker 3: you use it the correct way, like a lot of
Speaker 3: the great architects do. Like if you look at Augusta,
Speaker 3: how they use the how Mackenzie used Ray's creek that
Speaker 3: went through it. All the lakes got put in there
Speaker 3: by Robert Trent Jones, but like, if you look at
Speaker 3: how he used the creek, it's it's incredible. And I think,
Speaker 3: like a creek is so underrated. So I'll go creek, ocean,
Speaker 3: and then lake man made lake. What about you?
Speaker 2: That's funny you say creek. I'm gonna go with my
Speaker 2: favorite and least favorite. My favorite is a meandering creek,
Speaker 2: just like thirteen in Augusta. You know, something that's rugged.
Speaker 2: I love that it's I think any hole with that
Speaker 2: is automatically awesome. And then my least favorite are the
Speaker 2: metal the metal retaining walls on ponds. There are some
Speaker 2: good courses that have you know, Madonna has them. Actually,
Speaker 2: I'm just if you're gonna do it, I like it
Speaker 2: to be the die kind of railroad ties. I don't
Speaker 2: really like that either, but at least that's better than metal.
Speaker 2: So those are my those are my two water hazard thinks.
Speaker 3: All right, So, oh, this is from Derek from Matt
Speaker 3: toon how high do you have to finish in a
Speaker 3: tournament in order to send out a tweet or Facebook
Speaker 3: post thanking the tournament officials and host courses. He's asking
Speaker 3: for a friend.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, not applicable. I think you should always
Speaker 2: send send out a tweeter a Facebook post because it's
Speaker 2: it's a gentlemanly sport, and that's a very pros pro
Speaker 2: gentleman move.
Speaker 3: I agree, if you are a true gentleman, you'll send
Speaker 3: out a post every time.
Speaker 2: I think it looks even better if you, you know,
Speaker 2: missed a cut or finished seventy third, it looks even better.
Speaker 3: I would also throw in a congrats to the winner
Speaker 3: great playing. Didn't see that score out here unless you won, right.
Speaker 2: That's always a nice thing to do.
Speaker 4: Good sportsmanship, all right, So uh, let's see you got
Speaker 4: any good war stories from the from the am game.
Speaker 2: Like I saw that Walker asked about the about Stu
Speaker 2: Hagastad getting his club stolen the other day. It actually
Speaker 2: reminded me of this really funny story in college. I
Speaker 2: had a teammate that was his roommate was a like
Speaker 2: a longtime friend since they were four or five years old.
Speaker 2: His roommate was a little bit of a shady guy,
Speaker 2: and my buddy left his house for some reason for
Speaker 2: a couple of days. I think he went home to
Speaker 2: see his parents. And he got back and he couldn't
Speaker 2: find his golf clubs, and he's asking his roommate and
Speaker 2: he's wondering, what's going on. You know, someone just walked
Speaker 2: in the house and took my clubs, Like, what's going on?
Speaker 2: It's you know, it says yeah, his name on it
Speaker 2: and everything, and as it when they filed the police report,
Speaker 2: as it turned out, his roommate had taken them to
Speaker 2: a pawn shop and put them on layaway, you know,
Speaker 2: to go gamble. Thinking he would win the money, get
Speaker 2: the clubs back in his roommate would be none the wiser,
Speaker 2: But that blew up in his face. That's immediately the
Speaker 2: first thing I thought of when I saw that. Just
Speaker 2: a ridiculous story.
Speaker 3: So I used to when I was when I was single,
Speaker 3: I'd still try and compete in weekend events and i'd be,
Speaker 3: you know, out blazing a trail in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 3: And I'd recently started seeing a girl, and I played
Speaker 3: really bad on Saturday in this tournament, and I had
Speaker 3: the first tea time out on Sunday morning, and I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, you know, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 3: going out. And I met up with this girl and
Speaker 3: ended up out like all night, and like sure enough,
Speaker 3: like six am rolls around and I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 3: go play golf tournament and I get out the course
Speaker 3: and I just felt all kinds of awful and it
Speaker 3: was you know, you had to walk and oh god,
Speaker 3: oh it was horrendous. But you know, I come out
Speaker 3: and I just I hit the ball to like inside
Speaker 3: of three feet the first three holes, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm like three under through three and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I would need to do
Speaker 3: this more often. You know, it quickly unraveled. I ended
Speaker 3: up shooting like I think I made a ten on
Speaker 3: the last hole for eighty four, and it was just
Speaker 3: a disastrous day. I got off the golf course and
Speaker 3: I was wearing sunglasses the whole round, and one of
Speaker 3: my playing partners saw me and was like, oh my.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Then I went home and I think I slept till
Speaker 3: the next morning, and then I went to work and
Speaker 3: was like, oh, what a disastrous weekend.
Speaker 2: Playing playing hungover. For me, ball striking is usually not
Speaker 2: the issue. It's putting, and it's more specifically speed putting.
Speaker 2: I've been like fifteen feet, you know, a little down
Speaker 2: the hill, and I'll have twenty two feet coming back,
Speaker 2: like stuff you can't even imagine. We're just like, how.
Speaker 1: Did that happens?
Speaker 3: Kyle and I played together in this invitational. It was
Speaker 3: handicapped this year, and it started on Saturday, and they
Speaker 3: had like this dinner slash party on Friday night, and
Speaker 3: we're talking to each other and we're like, all right,
Speaker 3: We're just we're not going to get too drunk tonight.
Speaker 3: And sure enough, like we ended up having way too
Speaker 3: many drinks and we had it was a handicap event.
Speaker 3: We had to add shots on this part three, so
Speaker 3: that the whole time we were worried about this second hole,
Speaker 3: which is this tough little downhill park.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: We both hit it to like inside fifteen feet and
Speaker 3: it's the second hole of the day.
Speaker 1: I think we'd either birdied or part of the first.
Speaker 3: We're like slapping hands and we're like, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 3: make We're gonna make it worset par you know we're gonna.
Speaker 2: I think we literally looked at each other on the
Speaker 2: way to the green and said, oh man, that's huge.
Speaker 2: Nice job, got it over with.
Speaker 1: Then Kyle four putt at three but.
Speaker 3: Not good, not good at all, and we walked off.
Speaker 2: Were a little shaken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was it. That was a disaster. It's uh,
Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of good stories, all right. Let's
Speaker 3: get into overrated. Underrated Louis overrated, underrated from andy.
Speaker 2: Ka underrated for sure. I think we already we already
Speaker 2: talked about why he's a borderline Hall of Famer, right
Speaker 2: and he.
Speaker 3: He's gotta he's underrated. He makes the rare case of
Speaker 3: he's underrated in America. I've been in in South Africa.
Speaker 3: He's probably overrated, possibly Wannamaker Trophy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say underrated. It is a major. You can
Speaker 2: never underestimate a major win right, so many, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's what everyone, all those guys are playing for. Plus
Speaker 2: it's slept with Jason Duffner and he has pretty good
Speaker 2: taste in what he's sleeping with. So underrated.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's underrated also because of how big
Speaker 3: it is. Like I always think about the trophies I
Speaker 3: see on like the European Tour, and they're like massive,
Speaker 3: like you know, you win like swords and like accepters
Speaker 3: like out of Game of Thrones. Yeah, like they have
Speaker 3: awesome trophies. And then like you see the the the
Speaker 3: Players is like this little tiny piece of crystal, and
Speaker 3: like the US opens pretty small. But then like the
Speaker 3: Watermaker Trophy is like it's a big, big trophy. Like
Speaker 3: I think with trophies, size is underrated. It's got it
Speaker 3: Like I want to win a big ass trophy just
Speaker 3: like I want to get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want a big ass check too, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: If I was a tour pro, just like Happy Gilmore,
Speaker 3: I demand the big check.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get one this question in because I
Speaker 2: like it and it's kind of crazy Rory's poor twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen versus DJ's twenty seventeen. The media has been talking
Speaker 2: a lot about Rory wasting this season and basically who
Speaker 2: had a worst year, Rory or DJ.
Speaker 3: So I think this question, if it's one question, is
Speaker 3: if you look at the majors, and it's another if
Speaker 3: you look at the overall season, because like.
Speaker 1: DJ, one.
Speaker 3: Riviera, which is probably the strongest non WGC or major
Speaker 3: championship field, So he won that, and then he won
Speaker 3: two WGC events, which are you know, essentially major type
Speaker 3: fields but just smaller, so you know you've got the
Speaker 3: top sixty four seventy five players. So if you look
Speaker 3: at that, DJ clearly had the better year, but it
Speaker 3: was extremely disappointing what he did in the majors. If
Speaker 3: you look at just strictly the majors, then I think
Speaker 3: Rory had a better year.
Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. You look at I mean DJ,
Speaker 2: his average finish in the Open and the PGA was
Speaker 2: thirty three and a half. He missed the cut in
Speaker 2: the US Open, and he self inflicted missed the Masters
Speaker 2: where Rory with a seventh, a fourth, and a twenty
Speaker 2: second and then obviously the miscut at Aaron Hills. I
Speaker 2: don't even think there's a comparison there. Rory's year blue
Speaker 2: DJs out of the water in the Majors, and yeah,
Speaker 2: you know that's at the end of the day, that's
Speaker 2: what everyone remembers. So I'm gonna say DJ's was much
Speaker 2: more disappointing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the thing everybody was talking about DJ.
Speaker 3: This just goes to all of golf and how people
Speaker 3: just overreact about golfers and like hot hot streaks. Because
Speaker 3: we saw DJ's kind of run through last year after
Speaker 3: the US opened till this year's Masters somewhat mirrored Jason's
Speaker 3: days before him when from the end of twenty fifteen
Speaker 3: through twenty sixteen, where I mean he was unstoppable. But
Speaker 3: like those guys, like you know, they had like a
Speaker 3: good twelve months of sustain being the best player in
Speaker 3: the world. Then you see like JT, like early in
Speaker 3: the year, everybody was like, is he better than Jordan Speith?
Speaker 3: And you you still get that now. But like I
Speaker 3: think golf, Tiger spoil everybody into thinking that you could
Speaker 3: have a you know, we're gonna see a guy that
Speaker 3: just dominates golf for a really long period of time,
Speaker 3: and the reality is that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: No. I mean it looked like after DJ won in Mexico,
Speaker 2: he was gonna win literally every event the rest of
Speaker 2: the year. Then he falls down the stairs or whatever
Speaker 2: happened at the Masters, and uh, you know, not the
Speaker 2: same guy. And that's what the time off will do
Speaker 2: to you. But you brought it up. So which is
Speaker 2: who's the better player, Justin or Jordan?
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the golf course.
Speaker 1: I think they're both.
Speaker 3: They're both world class talents. If you're playing a golf
Speaker 3: course that's ultra demanding tea to green, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: with Justin Thomas. But if it's a golf course that's
Speaker 3: a little bit more strategic and more about you know,
Speaker 3: thinking and more and more challenging around the greens, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with Jordan Speth.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Speath And if I had to
Speaker 2: put money on who would have the better career, it
Speaker 2: would be Speed. But I think Justin Thomas has the
Speaker 2: higher ceiling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3: I think that I think Speth like Justin Thomas is
Speaker 3: going to miss a lot more cuts and majors than
Speaker 3: Jordan Speith, is right, and Jordan Speith, Jordan Speed's floor
Speaker 3: is just so high, whereas I think his ceiling isn't
Speaker 3: quite as high because he doesn't have the the power
Speaker 3: that that Thomas has. You know, Thomas has that that
Speaker 3: power that you see from guys like Rory. He's he's
Speaker 3: not quite like Rory or DJ, but he's he's right
Speaker 3: there and then and and that gives him a little
Speaker 3: bit of an advantage. I think he's when his ball
Speaker 3: striking is on, he's I mean, he's pretty hard to stop.
Speaker 3: I So I would.
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, I think that's that's I.
Speaker 3: Mean, So how would you, uh, how would you kind
Speaker 3: of rate how would you rank the young stars? Like
Speaker 3: if you had to go one through five with here,
Speaker 3: I'll pull it up. So I'm going to give you,
Speaker 3: like you're betting on these guys career.
Speaker 1: You've got Jordan Hideki.
Speaker 3: Justin Thomas, John Rahm, and we'll throw Brooks is a
Speaker 3: little older than those guys. Now Ricky's older too. We'll
Speaker 3: throw uh, we'll throw Daniel Berger in there.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: So those five guys, who who do you think, like,
Speaker 3: how would you rank them as far as like what
Speaker 3: you would expect career wise having the best career.
Speaker 2: Boy I eye test. I want to say Hideki, but
Speaker 2: obviously that we talked about is putting. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: Speak one, rom two, Hideki three, j T four, Burger five.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say, you know, I just put j
Speaker 2: T four on that list. That's that seems disrespectful almost,
Speaker 2: but that's a tough list. That's all. That's five good
Speaker 2: good players, great players.
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy. You could put Thomas Peters in
Speaker 3: there too. Yep, that's good. So I yeah, I think
Speaker 3: i'd go. Mine would look oh man, see one of
Speaker 3: the things with rom.
Speaker 1: Is he's already twenty three, Like he's.
Speaker 3: Only say rom one so bad, No I don't, but
Speaker 3: like he's twenty three, Like that's something that gets lost
Speaker 3: because he's just he's new and.
Speaker 2: It's right, plus he looks old too.
Speaker 3: It's it's like Hideki's been playing professional golf for like
Speaker 3: four years. He's twenty five, so it's like you know
Speaker 3: rom and and then like the same with speed Speed
Speaker 3: turn pro at what twenty or twenty one or nineteen?
Speaker 1: Did he turn pro?
Speaker 2: No? I think he played two years of Texas and
Speaker 2: then turn pro right? Or did you just play one?
Speaker 3: I think he just played one?
Speaker 2: Wow, So he was nineteen then.
Speaker 3: So it's like like that's something that always gets lost
Speaker 3: as age when you when you think about.
Speaker 1: And Burger, I think Burger is like Burger.
Speaker 3: Is a guy that could end up being like three
Speaker 3: of those guys that you have to at this point.
Speaker 3: I you know what, I'm going Speth Hideki. I love
Speaker 3: rom I so I'm going to speath Haideki j t
Speaker 3: Berger Rom. I'm just I'm in on Burger.
Speaker 2: I like Burger. I mean I love Burger's game. We
Speaker 2: both actually said in the last podcast that we thought
Speaker 2: he had a good chance to win. Didn't It didn't happen,
Speaker 2: but he missed. Yeah, of course the MC draft kings
Speaker 2: down to Dube no million dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. There's so many great young players. I mean,
Speaker 3: see Wu Kim you could put in there. He only twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's young and very very good. I think he
Speaker 2: has that you know, back issue I'm sure is due
Speaker 2: to his teacher. But we'll see, Uh, we'll see what
Speaker 2: if he can stay healthy. But if he can, for sure,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of young guys with a ton of talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then uh, all right, any tea times on
Speaker 3: the t sheet that are overrated or underrated, you got,
Speaker 3: you got anything on this.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I have from much. I don't
Speaker 2: know that I have much on it. I think that
Speaker 2: it offer me. It all depends on weather. If the weather,
Speaker 2: if you know it's all you, it's it all. It's
Speaker 2: all weather based. Sometimes I like going out early in
Speaker 2: the morning. Sometimes I like playing late in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: whether it's fun. In a tournament, I feel like I
Speaker 2: score a little better. I'm a little more awake in
Speaker 2: the afternoon, but the winds a little calm are usually
Speaker 2: in the morning, So I I really have no no preference.
Speaker 3: I would say the only thing I like noticeably prefer
Speaker 3: is if I'm in like a multi day event and
Speaker 3: there's thirty six holes, I really like having a late
Speaker 3: tea time the first day, early morning the second because
Speaker 3: I'm with you, because I feel like I can take
Speaker 3: the afternoon if I play well. Like basically, you get home,
Speaker 3: you go to sleep, and you're awake the next day
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, there's very little disconnected.
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing worse than you play.
Speaker 3: A really good round and then you have to wait
Speaker 3: like over twenty four hours to play again.
Speaker 2: Plus you're thinking about it, and you're you know, you're
Speaker 2: seeing the scores come in and you're seeing how good players,
Speaker 2: some good players, you know, shot poor scores, and you're like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was out there. Convincing yourself you
Speaker 2: know you could possibly play now, there's just a whole
Speaker 2: that for sure. I like late early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, late early is especially Yeah, I late early I'm
Speaker 3: a big fan of. But other wise, you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's nice to get the one. It's nice to have
Speaker 3: the greens really nice early in the morning. But it's
Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like I drink too much coffee or stuff.
Speaker 3: I you know, that's a that's my one of my
Speaker 3: I always struggle figuring out what the proper coffee intake is.
Speaker 2: I have always wondered that because I drink a lot
Speaker 2: of coffee me too.
Speaker 3: It's I'd love to I'd love I wonder if there's
Speaker 3: anybody on tour that's like a coffee specialist.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the hair has they got everything. I I
Speaker 2: always wonder that too, because I I've gotten coffee at
Speaker 2: the turn before in big events, and you know I've
Speaker 2: played fine. I I don't think it's probably good for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but me, I mean i'd like to know.
Speaker 2: I guess i'd like to know. What I'd like to
Speaker 2: know is how bad is it for me performance wise?
Speaker 3: I can't believe it would be bad if you're used
Speaker 3: to it, like in your in your like a sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's probably not great to have a
Speaker 2: downhill four foot left to right slider after drinking two
Speaker 2: and a half cups of coffee, but maybe yeah.
Speaker 3: All right, Well we'll end it there. Nobody needs to
Speaker 3: hear any more about how much coffee we drink. All right, Well,
Speaker 3: thanks for coming on, and thanks for all the questions
Speaker 3: from the listeners, and let us know if you got
Speaker 3: new questions for next time, and we'll talk to you
Speaker 3: in a little while.