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Please keep in mind 19 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: that all of my guests are nonnes so listen again 20 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: this week's episode. As always, I'm super excited about this 21 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: week's episode. Y'all know that I'm very big on providing 22 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: resources that it helps better your lives, whether it's personally 23 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: or professionally, and it's only right that we have on 24 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the show is certified nurse midwife. So to my you 25 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: knowing good, how are you so glad to be here? 26 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: I know, I'm so excited to speak to you, Like 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: everybody's been dying to hear more about a midwife, So 28 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm always glad to 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: talk more about met were free because a lot of 30 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: people don't really know what we can do. So I'm 31 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: always happy to talk about the field, and especially you know, 32 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: being being a black midwife. So I'm so grateful to 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: be here, and I can jump ahead. But I always 34 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: feel like duelers get a little bit more love than 35 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: men wives. Really, I feel like this. I feel like, well, 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: we can get to that later, but I just feel 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: like I thought it was very important to have a 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: certified man wife on the show because I feel like 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: there's so much to know about it. It's not a 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: lot of people that's in this field, especially women that 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: look like us. Yeah, so let's start from the beginning. 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: What does a man wife and what does a man 43 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: wife do. So a certified nurse midwife is basically, UM, 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: we can go two routes. So a lot of us 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: are nurses, Like we start in the nursing field and 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: then you know, we have our bachelor's degree in nursing 47 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: and then we have to get a master's degree, which 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. So I have to 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: get a master's degree. I actually went to Georgetown in 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: d C. Yeah, to become a certified nurse midwife. UM 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: as a duela. You usually take a certification, Like you know, 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: it's not like you don't have to get a master's 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: degree anything. It's like a not like any shade or anything, 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: but it's a it's like a class like a certification. 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: So it's like a little bit different. So UM as 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: a midwife UM to sum it up to make it 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: easy for people to like explain, it's like if you 58 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: think about like your O, B G Y N, So 59 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: we can do a lot of things that ob GYNs 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: can do, except that we care for more of low 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: risk women. Like the whole philosophy of Midwiffrey is that 62 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: it's not that birth is not a disease. It's like 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: very medicalized in the United States, but before all of 64 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: this like medical intervention, which I'm not saying is bad 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: because we need it sometimes, but for typically low risk women, 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: like you can have a baby without having like as 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: as people know about like homebirths and things like that, 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Like you can have a baby with just naturally, you know. 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Like so our philosophy is usually like being like holistic, 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, like your body can do this, Like you 71 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: don't need like all of this extra things around you. 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that we do is 73 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: we typically we deliver babies UM, but we usually care 74 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: for like I said, low risk women to a lot 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: of women that don't have like, you know, co morbidities 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: like hypertension if you're UM, if you have diabetes and 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: you're taking insulin, like things that would make you a 78 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: high risk person you have, you wouldn't usually be able 79 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: to have a midwife. Midwife is not only deliver babies, 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: but we do prenatal appointment so you can technically see 81 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: a midwife your whole pregnancy and never have to see 82 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: a doctor. So you can we do prenatal appointments. We 83 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: help with annual exams, we do paps, mirrors, we can 84 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: help with fertility, We help with menopause. UM, so basically 85 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: mostly any like you know women's health things like we 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: don't do surgery, so we don't do c sections. UM. 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: We don't handle like cancers or like really high risk 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: g y N issues, but a lot of like low 89 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: risk normal women will come for us for all of 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: their women health needs. UM midwives we can work and 91 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: we don't have to do just home birth UM. UM. 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Usually there's something called a CPM. This is a certified 93 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: professional midwife. So they didn't take they weren't a nurse first, 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: so they just did straight midwi free and so they 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: are they will can only do home births and then UM, 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: so midwebs can do home birth. We can also work 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: in the hospital, and we can also work at a 98 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: birth center. I particularly UM and I like the hospital 99 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: because I'm actually able to work with a little bit 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: more high risk women because I'm able to collaborate with doctors. 101 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: So for example, say if M and A you had 102 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: um high blood pressures and you really wanted to midwife 103 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: like high blood pressures, but you're not taking medications, you're 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: able to control. They're usually controlled. The doctor would probably 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: take care of if they got bad, they could take 106 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: care of your medications and control your blood pressure. But 107 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: I can still deliver your baby because I'm in the 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: hospital setting and we collaborate. So I like that because 109 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: sometimes people would think, oh, I don't think I can 110 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: have a midwife, but sometimes you can because as we 111 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: can collaborate with physicians and like, you know, still still 112 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: give you the care you need. So it's usually like 113 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: either you're just being careful by midwife, we can do collaboration, 114 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: or sometimes we do have to transfer you over to 115 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: the O B team, depending on you know, what happens, 116 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: Like if you end up meeting a C section in 117 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: the hospital, then obviously we would transfer you to the 118 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: OBI team, but we usually still check on you afterwards, 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, or if something comes in, something's happening with 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: the labor or something and we need a second opinion, 121 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: we'll always call our like OBI physicians into just like 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: help or you know, give us a second opinion. So 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: I feel like I just talked about a lot of misconceptions. 124 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: Do not know, because I just it's like and it's 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: just like yeah, because sometimes people a lot of people 126 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: just don't know what we're doing. They're like, oh, you 127 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: have to go to school, for that, and I'm just 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: like yes, And we get confused with dula's a lot 129 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: because Adula, I think they're amazing. Like honestly, I think 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: you have my questions right now. That's my next question 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: after day, but go ahead. Yeah. So ADULA is basically 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: they're a support person. Um. They're usually well versed in birth, 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: so they know like what the woman's body does. They 134 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: they are like, no, I'm not a doula. No you're 135 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: not well versed and birth as well. Yes, yet well 136 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: versed and birth how the body works. They're really good 137 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: about knowing like different positions to place the woman in. 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: And they're like, if I could give it a word 139 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: that people would know. It's like think about like your 140 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: birth bestie. Like they're there for you to advocate for you, um, 141 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: if you need like water, different things like that. They're 142 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: like your birth cheerleader. You know. Honestly, sometimes as a midwife, um, 143 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: people think that like, especially working in a busy hospital, 144 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I can't stay in the room with my patient 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: the whole time, like I can have four other people 146 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: in labor. And that's kind of different for some people 147 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: that have like a midwife at home, because it can 148 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: be with you, you know, for a longer amount of time. 149 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: So we defely if every woman can have a duelah, 150 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: whether she's having a c section or whatever, I think 151 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: it's amazing because who doesn't want someone who can encourage them, 152 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, along with your partner, Yeah, a support system, 153 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: and it's like you know, you have your partner or 154 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: your spouse, but sometimes they don't know birth, like they don't. 155 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: They can be there to help you, but they they 156 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: don't really know like what position to tell you to 157 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: get in, or how they can comfort you sometimes or 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously we try to teach them that as well. 159 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: But I think duelas are great because, like, especially if 160 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you want a natural birth, you need someone with you 161 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: the whole time, you know, so that's kind of their 162 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: do list. They don't deliver your babies. They like I said, 163 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: our support person is like if you can have like 164 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: a midwife and a dula, it's perfect because you always 165 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: have somebody with you. Even doulas will even come um, 166 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: like after some sense after you have the baby that 167 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: there's postpartum doulas that come and before COVID they can 168 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: usually like labor with you at home. Well they can 169 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: still do that as well, but labor with you at 170 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: home before you have to come to the hospital, you know. 171 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: So I feel like they're really great as well. So 172 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: I hope, I answered, like the differences between us and 173 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: I feel like what midwives I pretty much have like 174 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more hands on than duelas as well. Well. 175 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we're both hands on because doulas, like 176 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I said, they can help with positioning, they can help 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: with you know, um, helping maybe ease the women from pain, 178 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: like and doing different pressure points and stuff. The main 179 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: difference is, like I said, we do we actually can't 180 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: deliver the baby, and we do a lot other things. 181 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, as far as you can just have 182 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: a midwife as your provider, you know, you can't just 183 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: have a doul as your provider if you're trying to 184 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: have a baby. So I feel like we're both pretty 185 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: hands like pretty hands on and like just work a 186 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: lot together that people like. If people just don't know 187 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: that is it too much to have a doula men 188 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: and O B G Y in it all at the 189 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: same time, I know everybody said a different purposes? Is 190 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: that a lot um? I don't think it's a lot 191 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: but typically most places you can't. You usually have one 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: or the other. Like you can have like I said, 193 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: and honestly, like am I where I work, we have 194 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: a whole separate min we're free practice, and then we 195 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: have an obie practice. So you can't have both. It's 196 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: either you have a midwife or you have a physician. 197 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: So and then adula. Any person can have adula. But 198 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: like I said, we're different providers. We build like we 199 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: we taught, we build for the birth. Like, so you 200 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: have one or the other. And um, so like like 201 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: I said, you can start with the midwife. But sometimes 202 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: but if you're you know, if your labor or things 203 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: happen that you need to go to a physician, you 204 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: have to transfer over to a physician. But it's either 205 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: one one or the other. So like I said, um, 206 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: like we're able to prescribe medications, um in in this 207 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: area where I am in d c. Um. Sometimes the 208 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: scope of practice for midwives could be a little different 209 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: depending on what state you're in. But um, I know 210 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: in d C in in California and like a lot 211 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: of northern states, we are able to prescribe medications as well. 212 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: So um, that's just usually how it works like it's 213 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: either one or the other because we we are like, 214 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: like I said, you could you can go a whole 215 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: pregnancy and just have your midwife. You know, So how 216 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: do the pay them to affect your job? Did? Um? 217 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it didn't necessarily affect me too much. 218 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: Per se, I will say we have been doing like 219 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: telehealth visits now, Like obviously we won't have like a 220 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: person to with telehealth is their extra high risks, they 221 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: need to come in for all the visits. But if 222 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: someone's pretty low risk and healthy, we can we usually 223 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: um send our patients blood pressure cuffs. They can take 224 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: their vitals at home. Usually you can feel your baby moving, 225 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: so that's a good indicator that the baby is doing well. 226 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: So you know, I think telehealth is really changing. It 227 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: really helps a lot, especially when you're a busy mom 228 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: at home and don't want to travel all, you know, 229 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: all the way to an appointment every time. UM, So 230 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: that's helpful. UM. I feel like sometimes I thought it's 231 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,119 Speaker 1: affected patients a lot because it's like you know, especially 232 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: when you have to only pick two at first, it 233 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: was only one person in the delivery room. Right now 234 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: at whish you can have now you can have like 235 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: to like your partner, and some who have their duela 236 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: or you know, at first they couldn't have duel as 237 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: they can only have like their partner, which was kind 238 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: of like crazy because it's like you really want your 239 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: partner there obviously, but you want someone that can help 240 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: you get through the labor as well. But it's like 241 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: you have to pick. So I'm glad we can we 242 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: have two people now, and and honestly, it's just a 243 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: lot of like women are nervous and scared, which is 244 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: very understandable, Like it's we're in a whole pandemic, you know, 245 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: and it's like a lot of people were affected with 246 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: COVID and just like making sure your baby safe and 247 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: then the vaccinated versus unvaccinated battle and stuff like that. 248 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: So I feel like, um, healthcare is just changed for 249 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: like you know, wearing masks, Like overall, I feel like 250 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: there's been different changes, but um, we're just to get 251 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: through a yeah, just everything, or like more moms have 252 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: been like obviously a little bit more depressed and things 253 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: like that because you can't I mean, you could talk 254 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: to your family, but it's hard when they can't be 255 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: around you. You know, um like a lot. So I 256 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: feel like it's definitely changed in that way, Like women 257 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: just need a lot more support. And just like how 258 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: you can't have that much support as you want around 259 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: you because we have to kind of be still socially 260 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: kind of distance still. So and how difficult is it 261 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: to become a mad wife because I've read that a 262 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: midwife degree. It's one of the hardest degrees out there. 263 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna line it was a little tough, like 264 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: just but if you think about like all this stuff 265 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: we have to do, like you want to be well versed, 266 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: you want to be like I mean, birth is I mean, 267 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: birth is beautiful, but it can also be scary, you know, 268 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: like things happen. You know, sometimes people lose their babies, 269 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Like you can have big like lawsuits and stuff like 270 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: people I feel like, yeah, I feel like mid Wiffrey. 271 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: At first, it was just like you know, it started 272 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: trending a lot, but I feel like a lot of 273 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: people don't understand like all the stuff we do, Like 274 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: it's a wonderful, rewarding job, but it's also a lot 275 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: of work. Like birth is a lot of work, Like 276 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: you have to be you know, a very giving person, 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: like we have to be very understanding, like these are 278 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: like people and their baby and their birth journey is 279 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: like very serious, you know. So it's like you're you 280 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: give a lot of yourselves at at the births and 281 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: things like that. You know, births can last pretty long 282 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: time and you know you have to just be available 283 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: and it's not all like you know, there's some hard 284 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: moments of the job or what we say birthwork, Like 285 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: birthwork can be like hard and dreams. Okay, So for example, 286 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: like okay, you know some people like a nine to 287 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: five job, right, you usually go into work right, usually 288 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: can't get your work done. Um, and then you leave 289 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and then like you okay, it's like the day is gone, 290 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: Like that's it for the day. That's over. And that's 291 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: one thing I missed about being a nurse. Like when 292 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: I was a nurse, I would came in, did my 293 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: thing with my patients. The day's over, like I don't 294 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: have to worry about doing anything after that. But as 295 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: a midwife, I feel like your job is all or 296 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: a provider, your job is always going on because okay, 297 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: all those people I saw, they need to know what 298 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: what their results were, so I have to call people 299 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: back about their results. I have to follow up about 300 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: treat me. Like, if their results came back normal, I 301 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: need to follow up and make sure they get the 302 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: right medication they need. UM. If their afrason was not good, 303 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: I have to call them and make sure they know, 304 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: like what we're gonna do. UM. We have a non 305 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: urgent line where people call with questions and pregnancy questions 306 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: all the time. So it's like your work is never 307 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: done because you're always doing test labs, like making sure 308 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: your patients are okay, you know, so you always do 309 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: eight hour shift. You always go over your eight hour 310 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: shifts for the most part. Yeah, like because like even 311 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: if I have an office day from eight to five, 312 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: like you know, I have to find sometime to make 313 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: sure I'm getting back to the patients and stuff like that. 314 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: And so we usually work. UM. A lot of people 315 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: schedules are a little different, but typically for me, I'll 316 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: work like two days two to three days in the office, 317 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: which is eight hour shift. But then if I work 318 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: on labor and delivery, like UM on the unit, that's 319 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: a twelve hour shift. So it's a it's a very 320 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: and like a lot of people, I'm especially like home 321 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: birth and stuff like where it's one or two mintwives. 322 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: It's like, if you think about it, they have to 323 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: be there and all their patients delivery. So it's a 324 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: it's can be straining on your life. Like honestly, that's 325 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: why I chose the hospital because I felt like it 326 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: was a better work life balance for me, because I 327 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: don't want to get up at three o'clock in the 328 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: morning and I have to go into the hospital, Like 329 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: I want to know, this is my shift today and 330 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: this is what I'm working today. So it's like kind 331 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: of can be glamorized, but it's like, you know, it's 332 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: it's a rewarding like I said, but it's also like 333 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna put in some work in this job. 334 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: Like everybody's like, oh, do you love living babies. I'm like, 335 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I do love liver babies, but it's a lot of work. 336 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. 337 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: Like and so that's all I just want to say, 338 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: Like I think, um, and like, you know, school was 339 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: pretty tough, Like I mean, they want to make sure 340 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: that you know, you know, you have to know a 341 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: lot in order to take care of people, you know, 342 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: so it's a rigorous, like um like field. And I 343 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: know that there are different levels, but it's it required 344 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: to be a nurse before you become a mid wife. No, um, 345 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Like I said, there's also certified perfect should know metwives. 346 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: They weren't nurses before, so they just do. They're different. 347 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: It's called CPM, and so it's a different program. Are 348 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: they respected the same way? Yeah? I honestly feel like 349 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: um because it's kind of it's kind of cool because 350 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: as a CPM, if you think about it, they're at 351 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: the home like by theirselves, so they have to like 352 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: make sure they know how to resuscitate the baby, you know, 353 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: like you're not at a hospital, you know what I'm saying. 354 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: So I feel like we both get the same amount 355 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: of like you know, um stature because it's like, Okay, 356 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: when when I'm at the hospital, you know, I have 357 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: the pediatricians there, I have a lot of like I 358 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: have the doctors there, like I have a lot of 359 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: people like backup and stuff. But literally, like you're just 360 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: at home with them, you know, So I feel like 361 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: they have to be make sure they're really well versed 362 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: in like, you know, resuscitation, because like I said, when 363 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm at the hospital, I could just call like the 364 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: pediatrician to come in, you know. So I feel like 365 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: they also, um have to be well versed in that 366 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: kind of thing too. Um. But I feel like I 367 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: feel like now we like we both have the same 368 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: amount of like respect now, like just with a lot 369 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: of people seeing how safe home birth is and like, 370 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like because people I don't 371 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: think I want to be want to have my babies 372 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: at at you know, home. But I feel like as 373 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: long as you if you're like low risk, you have 374 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: a close hospital and proximity to be transferred from, and 375 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: it's fine, Like I mean, because anything can happen, like 376 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: when you're at the hospital or at home, you know, 377 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: so it's just like as long as you're able to 378 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: be transferred and things like that, then it's and I've 379 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: heard of so many successful home births, so many successful 380 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: hospital births, and it's just your preference, you know. It's 381 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: like it's no right or wrong. It's like on Instagram, 382 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: I hate when I see like, oh the hospital is 383 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: you know, not for women, or everybody shouldn't having at 384 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: home birth, and it's like that's not everybody's story. But yes, 385 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: and and everybody's like some more some people are more 386 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: high risk and they can't have their babies at home. 387 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: It's not safe to you know. And some people are 388 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: like are safe and normal and it is. But I 389 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: hate when like they just generalized everybody in a one group, 390 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: like the hospitals not for black women and blah blah blah, 391 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, well, home birth is not for 392 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: every woman, like, especially if rest factors a lot of 393 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: people homes are not for home birth. Correct. So, so 394 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: how long have you been a wife. I've been a 395 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: midwife for three years now. I graduated in um, let's see, 396 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: so I finished nursing school in and then that's about 397 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: like I became a midwife in So. I was a 398 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: nurse for a little while before I actually worked like 399 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: in the nick you with sick babies, and then I 400 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: worked postpartum helping mom after um they had the baby. 401 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: And then I just got like some midwives would come 402 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: and like see their patients after they had their babies, 403 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: and I was just kind of intrigued by what they 404 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: were doing. I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. 405 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: And then I like researched it more and I kind 406 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: of like really liked it. And then I was like, well, 407 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: because everybody's like, did you ever just ever think you 408 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: wanted to be a midwife? And I'm just like, no, 409 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I never even knew what it was like. Honestly, it's 410 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: so crazy, girl. I thought I was gonna be an engineer, 411 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, so weirdly different. So how do you Well, 412 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: I like feel like when I was younger, I just 413 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: got in this like engineering program, like to get into 414 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: a better school because of the neighborhood I was in. 415 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: You know, your parents are like, okay, this would be good, 416 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: a good program for you to get you out of 417 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: the neighborhood school. And then I actually was like, oh, 418 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: I think I actually like engineering. And then I got 419 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 1: in a program in high stool. But then I was 420 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: just like then I was like, uh, I don't really 421 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: see myself doing this, especially like I was like, I 422 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: can't really draw like that. You gotta be a good 423 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: draw after to like make things. And then um, I 424 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: was like and I was like I and then if 425 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: the crazy thing is like I always like back. And 426 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: then my mom was when I was little, she was like, 427 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: well you did used to say you wanted to be 428 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: a pediatrician. I was like, really, but I think I 429 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: just got torn from that when I like once I 430 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: got and just just was trying to get in a 431 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: good school in my neighborhood, you know. And then I 432 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: was like, well, then I actually went to UM after 433 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: I decided I didn't want to be an engineer. I 434 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: always thought I want to be a doctor, so I 435 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: started a premitt program. But then I was just like 436 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: learning about you know, how nurses and doctors are different, 437 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just feel like the nurse like 438 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: fits me, more like more nurturing, more like, you know, 439 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: I feel like this is this fits me. And then 440 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: I was a nurse for a while. I loved it, 441 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: and I said, it's like you always want to challenge 442 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: yourself or push yourself more. And then I was like, oh, 443 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: well this could be cool. And then after I just 444 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: like after I finished school, I was like, I don't 445 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: even think I'm not going back to school no more. Yeah, 446 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: I was like, that's it. I mean I may do 447 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: a few certifications, you know, like I'm interested in maybe 448 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: doing like becoming like a lactation specialist a head with breastfeeding. 449 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I think that will be interested in 450 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: getting that certification. But um, yeah, and you're also a 451 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: personal and growth coach. Yes, so I actually yes, so 452 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: I my mom is actually a therapist. So and she 453 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: does a lot of life and she does a lot 454 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: of life coaching. So I was just like at this 455 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: period of my life where I was, I feel like, 456 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: as a woman, like you just want to learn more 457 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: about yourself and growing and things like that. So I 458 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: got my life coach certificate. So I just like to 459 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: help women like um, like my brand is she burst 460 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: from within because the whole thing was not even about birth. 461 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: It was about just realizing the power that we have 462 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: and knowing that everything that we need to win is 463 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: already within us. That's that's my motto. So, um, I 464 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: wanted to like before I even thought about like birth 465 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: and things like that, it was just like I wanted 466 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: to help women to just grow and know our full potential, 467 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: Like you're not you know, you're still okay even if 468 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: you're working on yourself, because a lot of times it's like, 469 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: well I got if I can just get here here, 470 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: it's like you're are are you amazing? Like you're just 471 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: working on things and that's okay. So and I wanted 472 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: to just help other women like to just begin to 473 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: feel that way. Um, And so yeah, I do. I 474 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: do some personal growth coaching and I'm actually like gonna 475 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: be updating my website UM this week for people that 476 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: are interested. So she burst from within my services, I 477 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: do childbirth education. UM. I also do postpartum teaching because 478 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people it's like there's not a lot 479 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: of emphasis on the postpartum period. You know, it's just like, Okay, 480 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: we have the we have the baby shower, alright, you 481 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: have the baby good, Like all right, y'all good. He's 482 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, it's like, okay, what happens after the 483 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: mom has the baby? So I like to help women 484 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: and families playing after you have the baby, Like, is 485 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: there somebody that could cook you guys meals so you 486 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: don't have to cook meals right after your baby. Is 487 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: there like very important you know, think about like having 488 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: a newborn baby and not happen to make food and 489 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: things like that. Or I even talk about like postpartum 490 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: sex because women are are mortified or so scared afterward, 491 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: you know. So I do offer that teaching as well. 492 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: And then I also do UM some breastfeeding coaching as well. 493 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: So I'll be updating my site with all these like 494 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: things because some people are like, well, I already had 495 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: a child, so I'm not really interested in the child 496 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: birth again, but I would like to review like postpartum 497 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: things that are helpful. So I separated the classes like 498 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna update that, but I just try to 499 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: do like, you know, educational things, so like as black women, 500 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: you like not just know like how your body can 501 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: have a baby, but also know like other things like 502 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: how to advocate for yourself in a hospital space, like 503 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 1: how to you know, see when there's implicit you know, 504 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: racism in the in the space that you're in, and 505 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: how to come about that. So I feel like my 506 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: classes offer a different approach, you know, all like you're 507 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: learning about how to have a baby, but you're also, 508 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: like I said, learning how to protect yourself and just 509 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: learning how to navigate, as I say, navigate the birth world. 510 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that's like, where are some challenges you face because 511 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: I feel like you're so busy. Yeah, I feel like 512 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm really busy to actually yeah, like we were talking 513 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: before I met our podcast, I'm just saying to myself, like, 514 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: how do you have time? Especially with like I mean, 515 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: people are having babies on a regular basis of like yeah, 516 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: we um, I mean we have a pretty good work 517 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: I feel like my job is pretty good about having um, 518 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, work life balance is I actually work in 519 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: a big practice, so it's twelve of us. So yeah, 520 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: it's twelve midwife. So we worked usually four days a week, 521 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: which is nice and like I said, and like I said, 522 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: two days it's usually you know, the office, which is 523 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: an eight hour and two days it's usually twelve. But 524 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, you have like, um, we don't have to 525 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: work every weekend and things like that. So I feel 526 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: like I do get a good amount of time off 527 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: UM to do things that I like to do. Obviously, 528 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: I love um teaching childbirth education and other things for 529 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: my own business, so I'm able to do still have 530 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: time to do that UM. And I feel like it's 531 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: just about creating space. Like if it's something that I 532 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: feel like, it's not really like there's so many people 533 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: reach out to me to do opportunities, but it's just 534 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: like I can't say yes to everything. You know, It's 535 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: about like just creating space and like focusing on the 536 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: goals that you have for that season, Like, Okay, this season, 537 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing this. So if if things a gonna align 538 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: with this goal, then I can't do it in this season. 539 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: I think I can't ever do it, but not right now. 540 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: I just can't do it right now. So I think 541 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: that's a good lesson that I'm actually like, have a therapist, 542 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: like I think most people should have, but she was 543 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: always like, Okay, what are your three goals for this season? 544 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't match with that, then you need 545 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: to not focus on it at this point. And I 546 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: think that's so good for just a life tip, you know, 547 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: like it will help us stay a lot more focused 548 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: on things and get things actually done. I noticed that diversity. 549 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: Diversity is an issue in mad referee, So what do 550 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: you think needs to happen to promote more diversity. So 551 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: I think one thing that needs to happened is like 552 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: more scholarships for black midwives and doulas. UM. I'm actually 553 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: a part of organization. It's called UM. It's a foundation 554 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: that we basically help support like want to support black 555 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: met with free students, I mean, because school is expensive, 556 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like that's one of the 557 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: challenges of like getting you know, more black people and 558 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: also just like letting them know about the career field 559 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, like when I see them, 560 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: they're like, so, what's a midwife and like so a 561 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about it. Um so I 562 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: think that's one way, Like just like how like that's 563 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: why anytime anybody invites me to talk about were Free, 564 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about talking about it because I want like 565 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: everybody to know about what we do, you know, and 566 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: like how we can help people. And it's just like 567 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: evidence shows that when you have, you know, providers that 568 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: look like you just feel more comfortable. Not like it's 569 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: racimer thing. It's just a thing like if if you 570 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: look like me, I'm just I just feel more comfortable 571 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah. So, um, I think the major thing 572 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: is putting the field more out there, and like I said, 573 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: offering like you know, scholarships and help to get other um, 574 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: you know, to get to get more midwives because I 575 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: think like literally I have like a hundred K and 576 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: like loans just from school and stuff, and it's like 577 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: we can't prevent people from like having having this, the 578 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: more people will maybe want to do be in the field, 579 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: you know. And also just even having more teachers of 580 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: color and things like that, because I feel like I 581 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: had a good experience at Georgetown, but obviously it's like 582 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: a lot of like you know, it's not a lot 583 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: of black professors. I don't even think I had maybe 584 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: one black professor also, but just like you know, just 585 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: additional support and stuff like that. So um and like 586 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot more like mentorship. I actually 587 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: am a um A professor at Georgetown, So I helped 588 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: free students. I know, I know I help were three 589 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: students like get through their clinicals and um what's called 590 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: like a clinical clinical faculty advisor. And I feel like 591 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to give back because I had a great 592 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: clinical faculty advisor and basically we're kind of like their 593 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: mentors and we like, you know, talk about like what's 594 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: going on, Like I check on them during the week. 595 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: And I feel like that is so helpful. Was so 596 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: helpful for me, Yeah, just to have somebody like it's like, girl, 597 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: it was hard for me, but you can do it, 598 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: you know. So that's amazing. So for a listeners, what 599 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: do you recommend to look for when it comes to 600 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: choosing a midwife. Yeah, so whether it's a midwife, but 601 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: O b d WI. In any type of provider, I 602 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: feel like, you want someone who, okay, like if you 603 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: came in, if they came into the room. He wants 604 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: someone who you feel comfortable with asking questions, you know, 605 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: you want someone who's like knowledgeable in the field. You 606 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: want someone who you feel like listens to you, because 607 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of providers will be like, Okay, 608 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: this is the plan, and it's like, no, that's not 609 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: what you should say. It's like, basically, what I'm trying 610 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: to do is I give you all your options so 611 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: that we can make an informed decision. Like it's not 612 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: a one way street of like I'm making other decisions 613 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: for you. It's me helping you to pick a decision 614 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: that's best for yourself. And so I feel like, make 615 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: sure your provider is like, you know, somebody that you 616 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with, that you feel like gives you all 617 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: your options, who doesn't like, um, you know, make you 618 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: feel bad for not picking a certain decision. Um, So 619 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: I think those are good things, and make sure they 620 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: listen to you. Like I feel like the major thing 621 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: about like you know, maternal mortality and women, you know, 622 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: more black women dying in birth is just not being 623 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: listened to and not being hurt someone who's definitely gonna 624 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: that you feel like it's going to listen to you 625 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: and you know, have your best interests at heart. So 626 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: and that's where like, you know, sometimes doulas come in 627 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: because they're advocates and they can help, like you ask 628 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, what kind of questions to ask, and it's ladies, 629 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: it is so important. Like if you have like if 630 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: you're you know, pregnant, please take a child birth class, 631 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: like so you can find out like what your what 632 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: your body is doing. Like I feel like that's why 633 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: I went into the field because a lot of people 634 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: don't do it or they're like I'll just kind of 635 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: figure it out. But it's like you don't know anything 636 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: that's going on, and you have to be an advocate 637 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: for yourself and your body. So you have I feel 638 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: like our you know, culture just needs more education. So 639 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: it's like make sure you learn about it. Research, like 640 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: go and google, like what things should I know about birth? 641 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: Or what things should I know about helping my baby? 642 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Like just don't go in there blind, you know, and yeah, 643 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: like you want to be able to make decisions and 644 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: things like that. So, and if I'm not mistaken, you 645 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: went to a conference I guess it was sometime this 646 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: year about the mortality rate for black women. Right, did 647 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: I go to a conference? Girl? I might have to 648 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: a lot. No, because I remember listening to the episode. 649 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: You was on an episode on the podcast and you 650 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: were just speaking about how pretty much how black women 651 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: don't feel safe birth and it was like one of 652 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: the biggest conference in d C because the mortality rate 653 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: was really high. Oh yes, yes, you're right. So our mayor, 654 00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Mayor Marriel Bowser, she had a conference in d see 655 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: because DC has one of the highest maternal mortality rates, 656 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: and it was just a big conference of providers document 657 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: trying to come like come together to figure out like 658 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: what's not working, you know, and you know, it was 659 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: just like back in the day, was just like, oh, 660 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: it's because black people, you know, have health issues, so 661 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: obviously they're more likely to die or because they you know, 662 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: are living a socio economics thing, so they I mean, 663 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that we don't have like, 664 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, health issues, like you know, there it's a 665 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: lot of obesity and you know, the African American community, 666 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: but also but that wasn't like the point, because when 667 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: like Beyonce and Serena came out and told about their 668 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: experiences with birth and they're rich like millionaires, it showed 669 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: that it's not just based on your socio economic status 670 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: or you having some type of health problem. It shows 671 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: that because of their skin, they're treated differently. Serena blatantly 672 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: said she said that something was wrong with her her 673 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: and she was having trouble breathing, and no one listened 674 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: to her, and she really advocated for herself, and she 675 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: ended up having a blood clot that could have went 676 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: to her lungs and killed her. So it's just like 677 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: if somebody that's rich and famous still has some problem, 678 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to do with that. Like, so it's 679 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: like that's why it's so important to not be scared 680 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: to speak up, you know, and so like and that's 681 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: what we can't. We're coming about like to discuss like 682 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: what can we do in our city to like, you know, 683 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: help prevent this type of types of things from happening. 684 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: M I'm just curious, is there any way that's a 685 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: community can help. Yeah, I feel like, um, I think 686 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: just like if you've experienced if you really like your 687 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: meant with free care to talk to other people about it, 688 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: like you know, let let people know like about midwives, 689 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: like because I feel like it has passed on. Like 690 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: several of my friends wants I've becud midwife. They all 691 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: went to midwives, and they're like, I never would have 692 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: went to a midwife if I didn't know you, like 693 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, like just you know, like the things about 694 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, midw free care if you can, and just 695 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: supporting organizations and like if you can't, like donating to 696 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: organizations that want to help like um, black women. You know. 697 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: My my organization is called d C, A C and 698 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: M Foundation. It's actually the it's a foundation, like I said, 699 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: we are actually we have a run coming up next week. 700 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 1: It's called Bought for Better Birth, and we are putt 701 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: putting donations towards an organization called Mama Toto. They provide 702 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: her Yeah, they provide like free doula services, free education 703 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: and things like that to the community, and so we 704 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: want to give them money so that they can still 705 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: pour out into the women that can't afford Like I mean, 706 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: having a duel is expensive, Like it's not. That's one 707 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: of the things I wish could be covered by insurance, 708 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: Like most of the time you have to pay out 709 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: of pocket for them, so like you know, they have 710 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: that service or like free classes and like free resources diapers, 711 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: pampers like boughty, like UM formula, breastfeeding classes, whatever the 712 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: women needs, like they provide that stuff. So if you 713 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: can like donate to organizations like that that you see 714 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: are trying to promote like helping women and you know, 715 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: promoting birth and things like that, that's um something really 716 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: great to do. Yeah, so what's that's the future? Mid 717 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Wife free look like to me, Like it's fine. I 718 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: feel like in a perfect world to me, like I 719 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: wish that Like first of all, I wish that everyone 720 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: could just get like equitable care, you know, and like 721 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: not based on where you live. Like everyone's care could 722 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: just be equal, you know, Like that is like I 723 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: would be so happy for that. And as far as 724 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: they were free, I feel like, like I said, there 725 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: needs to be a lot more midwives so that people 726 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: can like learn more about what we do. I mean, 727 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: it's been evidence that our practices like you know, help 728 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: with UM to have better outcomes for women, Like I like, 729 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: I like, we don't see women as just another money maker, 730 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: like we see them as individualized care if you try 731 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: to actually get to know our patients, and like, I 732 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: know some people be like well when I see my doctor, 733 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: they'd be like in and out, but like we can 734 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: actually spend a little bit more time with you because 735 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: we want to get to know you. It's just like 736 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: our our philosophy of care is a little different. And 737 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, there needs to be a lot 738 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: more of us. And I feel like I wish that women, 739 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: all women, like I said, could have a doula and 740 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: that doula services can be like paired with like insurance 741 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: that you just get us up every everyone gets a 742 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: birth best see, like you know, like that would be 743 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: like that would be amazing, or even like if we 744 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: have like more laxtation specialists like to help promote breastfeeding 745 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: and like, you know, I feel like it's unless I 746 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: have so many things I like wish, but that's amazing. 747 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't really didn't wish that. Hopefully in the future, 748 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: women especially black women, can have more resources and have 749 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: access to these amazing people because I feel like a 750 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: lot of people missed. I don't. It's not by choice. Yeah, 751 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: just like don't know really, but yeah, I hope that 752 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: like you know, help, like just maternal care can just 753 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: just change and be better for women, so we can 754 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: get these like statistics better. It just makes no sense, 755 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: like in the United States, like we're we're like one 756 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: of the most established places and it's just like crazy, 757 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: and it obviously shows that something's wrong with the system. 758 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: So last, and not least, what is your advice to 759 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 1: those listeners who want to pursue a career in mid 760 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: with free Yeah, so I would just say, you know, 761 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: if you can just do your research, like look at 762 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: what we do the scope of practice, make sure something 763 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: that you want to do, Like you have to be 764 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: a person that is very empathetic. You know. It's not 765 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: just like if you want to be a midwife just 766 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: to deliver babies, and I feel like it's not the 767 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: field for you because that's only one part of the field. 768 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: Like you have to be someone who is well to 769 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: listen to women. You have to be someone who is 770 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: willing to put your own, like, you know, critical thoughts 771 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: and judgments aside and listen to what's best for your patient. 772 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: Like you have to be very caring, you know, Like 773 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: this is not a job for like the week, like 774 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: you have to be, you know, a fighter. You have 775 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: to want to advocate for people like and push and 776 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: make sure they're getting good care like I always say. 777 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: Wood free is advocacy, like birth work is advocating, Like 778 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: I'm making sure that somebody gets appropriate care. And if 779 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: you can't do that or feel like you don't can't 780 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: stand up and do that, then this is not the 781 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: job for you. So I would I'm sorry, but yes, 782 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: like it's like I said, it's not about oh, it's cute, 783 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: like you can deliver babies. No, it's it's a lot 784 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: more than that. And also, you know, like I said, 785 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: doing your research if you can, like and I know 786 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: it's hard with COVID, but if you can like shadow 787 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: a midwife or something to see if it's something you 788 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: would like to actually do, because it's not for everybody, 789 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: even might be like, oh I thought it was for me, 790 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: but it's not. But there's so other many jobs that 791 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: you can do that help you to help women, Like 792 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: I said, there's like nursing, like there's um childbirth classes. 793 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of other ways you can help moms 794 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: other than or like being a doula, like you know. 795 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: So there's so many ways that you can support women. 796 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: But I would just say, if you really want to 797 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: do it, go after it like you you'll you'll be great. 798 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: You'll be great. So that's my advice. Well, I listen, y'all. 799 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: I could just called jobs and I'm trying to be 800 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: a good water for y'all. Think it's cute. Now, Thank 801 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: you so much. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, 802 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: please make sure to email you a Hello at the 803 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: PFC podcast dot com and I would definitely connect you 804 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: with our guests because I think she was amazing. I mean, 805 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you were still clock in because you 806 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: just gotta work, y'all. Yes, and until next time, everyone 807 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: Later later,