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Speaker 1: yet they won their conference. That's the standard that Kirby

435
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: Smart has said at Georgia. It was never like that

436
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: at Georgia before, and I don't think it's ever been

437
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: like that virtually anywhere other than where he used to

438
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: work before he took the head job at Georgia. It

439
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: just insane to think about the vibe around Georgia last year.

440
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: Half of your buddies who really loved college football would

441
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: tell you George sutt last year, Yeah, but they won

442
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: the SEC.

443
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: That's a down year for them.

444
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: Now, he's the only guy to even remotely come close

445
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: to duplicating what Saban had at Alabama, and he was

446
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: there for a long time. You could make a good

447
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: argument that those defenses were never as good once he

448
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: left as they were when he was there. There's a

449
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: little bit I think to be said about how offenses

450
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: sort of evolved simultaneous to Kurr believing. But I would

451
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: counter with, well, look at how good his defenses were

452
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: when he got to Georgia. Like Georgia's defenses were buying

453
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: large better than Bama's. Once he got to Georgia, they

454
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: had trouble beating Bama. But strictly defensively speaking, Kirby wasn't

455
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: his really good. I had someone tell me one time.

456
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: I've heard people say this about Belichick, and I've heard

457
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: him say it about Kirby smart, and that is, he

458
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: could be a position coach in any room and be

459
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: the best position coach on the staff, offensive or defensive.

460
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: And I certainly believe that.

461
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: Defensively, and they're probably not wrong about him offensively either.

462
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: He was like a running backs coach for one year

463
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: at Georgia, by the way, it's just memory hold. No

464
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: one remembers that. But when he was an assistant there,

465
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: I think he was a running backs coach one year.

466
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: So I always had a theory about when he left Bama.

467
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll tell this story one day. I don't think

468
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: Saban would tell this story. It's not like the other

469
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: rumors about him. Leaving there, you know, the recruiting boards

470
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: and whatnot, which is absolutely true, by the way, but

471
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: it's not that. It's the fact that I'm a believer.

472
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Nick Saban never worried about any of his other assistants

473
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: leaving and ever being able to match what he did

474
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: at Alabama, because Saban knew how hard it was to

475
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: do what he did at Alabama and how perfect the

476
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: machine has to be built in all aspects, and so

477
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: he looked around and said, it doesn't even matter if

478
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: any of these guys are clones of me, They're never

479
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: going to go anywhere and get it set up the

480
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: way I got it here. However, I do believe he

481
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: always thought, deep down, if there's anyone who's close to

482
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: being like me, it's Kirby. And then if he were

483
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: to ever look out across the horizon and see programs

484
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: that if the right guy landed at at the right time,

485
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: it could match Alabama, Georgia was one of them. So

486
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: Kirby takes Georgian always always believed Saban looked at it

487
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: as not being threatened per se, but there was a

488
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: little bit of an uh oh factor there, and he

489
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: was right to feel that way. Now, he still rattled

490
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: off a five to one record against him. But I

491
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: think it's a huge testament that that was the only

492
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: one out of all these assistants Saban lost, still up

493
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: in the air on Sark, But out of all those

494
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: other assistants that Saban lost, all of them got head

495
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: coaching jobs. Kirby was the only one where he even

496
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: came close to looking and saying, man, he's built Alabama.

497
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: He's built a replica of Alabama. But that's not the

498
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: big takeaway to me, and it's not the time, you know,

499
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: for history to tell this story, but the big story,

500
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: you know, like the the first thing I think about

501
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: when I think of Kirby Smart is it's tough to

502
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: properly state the impact he's had on Georgia if you're

503
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: not from the state of Georgia. Everybody knows he's won

504
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: a lot. Everybody knows he's won a conference titles, couple

505
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: of national titles. But you got to understand, I grew

506
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: up in Georgia and I watched for a long time.

507
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: Georgia was bad for a little part of my childhood,

508
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: and then they got pretty good, and then at any

509
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: given point they may have been the best team in

510
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: the league under Mark Richt, But there was this feeling.

511
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Was the same way with the Atlanta Braves versus the

512
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: likes of maybe the New York Yankees. They were good enough,

513
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: but there was not a willingness to go over the cliff.

514
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: There was not like a rabid willingness just cut your

515
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: head off to get ahead, the way that the Northern

516
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: teams played in baseball, or the way maybe some other

517
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: teams were playing in college football. But Georgia folks didn't

518
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: know any better. Georgia folks kind of never had the

519
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: scale of greatness in their past against which to measure

520
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: their present self. They won a title with Vince Dooley

521
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: in the early eighties, many of them either weren't around

522
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: or had long forgotten that era. The sport had changed entirely,

523
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: so like you didn't have greatness in your recent past

524
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: to measure yourself against. So all you had to go

525
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: on was, hey, we got Mark Rick, We're winning a

526
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: lot of games. Let's go bark in. Some folks' faces

527
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: were great, but they weren't great. And then Urban Meyer

528
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: came into Florida, and Urban was great for a short

529
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: period of time, and Florida was and they won championships,

530
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: and then Saban came to Alabama and that was a

531
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: prolonged period of greatness versus the very good that was

532
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: in Athens. And so I think the big takeaway was

533
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: when Kirby got that job. Not only did he take

534
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: the job, and not only did he eventually start winning,

535
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: but before he did that, he convinced Georgia that good

536
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: enough was not enough, and that will pay dividends long

537
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 1: after he's gone from there, because he showed them that

538
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: there were rungs above them on the ladder that they

539
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: had never thought to try and reach. And not only

540
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: did he do that, he had the gravitaze, he had

541
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: the name recognition and the reputation at that point to

542
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: be able to walk in and say you're not what

543
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: you can be. I'm the right guy to get you there,

544
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: and here's what I need. And unlike his predecessor, he

545
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: got yeses when Mark Rick ted gotten know's, or maybe

546
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: Rick hadn't even known to ask for certain things. And

547
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: so not only did Kirby build the machine, he got

548
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: the pieces that it took to build the machine, and

549
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: then he did that, and that impact matters because once

550
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: he leaves that could be next year or next decade,

551
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: But whenever he leaves, he leaves behind a program that

552
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: is like much much more equipped to be a turnkey winner,

553
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: no matter who's there than it was prior to his arrival.

554
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: That will always be the pig takeaway with him. That'll

555
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: always be the truth about him in my mind. No

556
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: matter what else he does there. He could win another

557
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: title or five, or never win another one. His legacy

558
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: has already secured there the past few years.

559
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: I think also another truth here.

560
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: I think the past few years for him have been

561
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: a much bigger struggle than he had ever admit publicly,

562
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: or that ever let on because he understands how good

563
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: they have it there. But I think.

564
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't know the best way to put this.

565
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: There are non negotiables he has that are negotiables for

566
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: a lot of other people. The way you practice, the

567
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: way you recruit, the critical factors.

568
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: That define your program.

569
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of places out there have bent

570
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: on some of those out of perceived necessity because of

571
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: how the sport has changed around him, And Kirby Smart

572
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: has tried as best he can to not bend on

573
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: any of those. And so you still try and practice

574
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: the same way you always have, but you don't necessarily

575
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: have the quality depth that you used to have. You

576
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: try and hold yourself to the same competitive standard. You

577
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: try and run the same thing defensively, fairly complex. Well,

578
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, a few years ago you were looking at

579
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: a first guy coming in and unless he's a true superstar,

580
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: it's going to be a couple of years before he

581
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: is in a starting role for Georgia. Well, now their

582
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: first year players are littering there too deep.

583
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: So what do you do.

584
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: Do you sacrifice the principles and values of what you

585
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: want to do defensively and do you simplify things so

586
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: that you flatten the learning curve a little bit? Or

587
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: do you just say this is the way we do it,

588
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: and if we go down, we're going to go down

589
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: doing it the way we do it. Are we still

590
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: going to practice the way we practice? Are we still

591
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: going to recruit the way we recruit? Are we still

592
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: going to hold guys to the same standard? I mean,

593
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: is this place going to be an absolute nightmare for

594
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: you Monday through Friday so that you play the way

595
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: we want you to on Saturday.

596
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: I think it's been a struggle. He's not the only one.

597
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: I think he's just probably in the highest profile of positions,

598
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: and he's a guy who's who's had to deal with

599
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: crying on the yacht a little bit, as he would

600
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: put it.

601
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: I think that's a big truth.

602
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: Now, the next chapter of that is, well, what are

603
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: these changes across college football mean for a program like Georgia.

604
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I kind of along those lines.

605
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: This is nothing I haven't told him privately, so I'll

606
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: say it publicly. I strongly think Kirby Smart's voice is

607
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: one that we need to hear a whole lot more of.

608
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: He's extremely wise, He's well versed in a lot of

609
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: the critical issues that face this sport. That doesn't mean

610
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: you'll always agree with him, It doesn't even mean I

611
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: would always agree with him. But when he speaks, he

612
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: speaks from an informed place. He has seen it done

613
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. He's built a monster at Georgia.

614
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: But also because of that, he's like one of the

615
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: Apex faces and one of the Apex programs, And so

616
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: we have what we call consequences of success on the show,

617
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: a lot that you only ever deal with once you're

618
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: a high level winner.

619
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: And he's dealt with him.

620
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: But he also you know, he's on the rules committee,

621
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: so he's intimately involved in a lot of converce stations

622
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: on that front. He's one of the most respected voices

623
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: in the sport. And the thing about it is, for

624
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: a long time, everyone just looked at Nick Saban, Oh

625
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: what's he gonna say? And Saban was like the godfather

626
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: that spoke for everybody. But he's not a head coach anymore.

627
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: So even if he speaks, it doesn't carry the same

628
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: weight that it used to. So one of the questions

629
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: I have when he retired is which voices fill that vacuum. Frankly,

630
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys have been very hesitant

631
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: to accept that role. And it's not in their contract

632
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: that they're required to, but I do view it as

633
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: their responsibility to grab some of that rope because here's

634
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: what happens. In the absence of people like Kirby Smart

635
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: speaking up for the sport, clowns speak up instead. In

636
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: the absence of you know, strong informed leadership, whether it

637
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: be head coaches or otherwise, you see what can happen

638
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: when the wrong hands get on the wheel and the

639
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: wrong voices get close to the microphone. So the truth

640
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: about him from my perspective is also I just I

641
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: wish you'd speak up a lot more about things that

642
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: extend beyond just Georgia. Now, he'd look at you and

643
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: he'd say, I got enough on my plate here, and

644
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: he's not wrong about that.

645
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: I just don't.

646
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it does anything but help the sport

647
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: for guys like him to speak up more on big

648
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: picture issues. They're watching us in spring Hill, Tennessee, Tempe, Arizona, Olympia, Washington.

649
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys so much. All right, it is

650
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: question answering season. Well, you ask him, I answer him.

651
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Speaker 1: I put this out last week. I think I asked

652
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Speaker 1: a couple of things a couple of calls to action

653
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: last week, and one of them that we got was

654
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks in and around the country. Will Howard enthusiast

655
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: hit us. He said, Hey, one of the biggest questions

656
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: in college football this year is the performance of new

657
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the perceived powers of college football who are

658
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: expected to compete for titles. You're Ohio, States and Texas,

659
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: in Georgia, Obama, Oregon. Uh Yeah, obviously this may be

660
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: the biggest question in the sport.

661
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: This year.

662
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: From an on field standpoint is, look at all those

663
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: teams there. Those are basically a hoops hoops of the

664
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: favorites to win at all, and yet none of them

665
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: have proven production at quarterback. So I guess the multi

666
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: million dollar question is are any of them gonna be

667
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: A level players this year? Now, my theory on this

668
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: show has always been, if you're a new quarterback, it's

669
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: very possible that you could be instantly elite. You could

670
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: just instantly be a Heisman contender, All American. That's possible.

671
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: It's far more likely you're gonna have a lot of

672
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: ups and downs. You're gonna be inconsistent because that positions

673
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: really hard to play, even if you are experienced, it's very,

674
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: very very hard to play if you're not. So I've

675
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: always said, give me a first year starter at quarterback.

676
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: I am going to assume the best of them are

677
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: going to play at a B level for me B

678
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: level performance, and I'll be happy as a bonus if

679
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: I get anything above and beyond. Well, look at those players,

680
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: or think about those players. If you're listening on podcasts

681
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: that I just listed. What happens if we get B

682
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: level play from say Arch manning Well. First thing I

683
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: think about is how many tough road games Texas has

684
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: At Texas, Texas doesn't have it. It's not like a

685
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: gauntlet the likes of which Florida or OU play, but

686
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: they're tough games are on the road. So if Arch

687
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: is a B level player, nothing more, nothing less, and

688
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: there's not a ton of returning, proven production around him,

689
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about him going on the road at Florida,

690
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: they play OU in Dallas, so that's at least away

691
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: from home. They've got to go to Georgia, They've got

692
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: to go to Ohio State to start the year. You

693
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Speaker 1: could lose two, three, four of those games for all

694
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: I know. And look, he could play at a solid level,

695
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: but B level QB play involves some inconsistency, It involves

696
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: some turnover issues here and there.

697
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: If that's the case, who knows not.

698
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: On the flip side, you think about Texas as a team,

699
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: and they could have the best pass rush in the country.

700
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: So like, there are a lot of game.

701
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Speaker 1: Script scenarios in my mind where you know that pass

702
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: rush puts Texas in a position where or maybe Arch

703
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: puts Texas in a position where they're scoring early Texas

704
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: first quarters are so important this year because if they

705
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: can grab early leads, force the other dude to have

706
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: to throw a lot, and that pass rush gets to

707
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: tee off like it can way different season. First quarters

708
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: for Texas very important this year. Ohio State and Oregon obviously,

709
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: we're calling Dante Moore a first year starter. I know

710
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: he started at UCLA, but we're calling him a first

711
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: year starter, and certainly Julian saying at Ohio State fits

712
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: the same description. So let's go with the working theory

713
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: there B level play from them.

714
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: B level play. Is that good enough?

715
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Speaker 1: Is that good enough for Ohio State or Oregon to

716
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: win the Big Ten? They I don't think they play

717
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: each other in the regular season. Is that good enough

718
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: for them to meet in the Big Ten title game?

719
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: Or I know a team with a ton of returning

720
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: production at quarterback that plays both of them? That's Penn State.

721
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: Isn't the lack of returning production for Ohio State and

722
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: Oregon sort of part of the reason people are high

723
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: on Penn State. I'll tell you for me, that's baked

724
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: into my theory on Penn State. And we'll talk about

725
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: them a little bit later in the show. But Dante

726
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: Moore going into Happy Valley Week five, I think it

727
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: is tough Penn State. We had a bold prediction on

728
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: the show the other night, what if Penn State rushes

729
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: for two hundred against Ohio State. Well, if they do

730
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: that and Julian Saying goes off, it probably still equals

731
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: an Ohio State win. But if Julian Saying is inconsistent,

732
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, let's say they spot Penn State at ten

733
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: o lee like they did last year's game. Maybe it's

734
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: a different outcome and it's the same down in the SEC.

735
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: Bama Ty Simpson first year starter, Georgia gun or Stockton

736
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: first your starter. I kind of I kind of view

737
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: these guys. Whether I'm right or wrong about this, I

738
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: view those guys and I say, all right, if you

739
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: guaranteed me B level quarterback play from either one of

740
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: them right now, would those fan bases accept it? Would

741
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: you roll the dice or would you take the guaranteed

742
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: B level play? Translation, do you trust the team built

743
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: around them? And whether it's Bama or Georgia. There's a

744
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty around them. Talent, yes, but a lot

745
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: of uncertainty around them. They play each other in Athens

746
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: this year. I'm just interested, like what the identities end

747
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: up being of Alabama or Georgia this year. And also,

748
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, take all that throw that no blender, this

749
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: is unlikely. But what if we just go full on

750
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: craziness and none of those teams end up having elite

751
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: quarterback play. Well, that's how a team like Texas A

752
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: and M makes a run to the national title. That's

753
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: how like Nebraska ends up winning ten or eleven game.

754
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: That's just how all kinds of crazy stuff can end

755
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: up happening. Because if none of the big boys have

756
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: a level quarterback play, you're talking about an anomaly the

757
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: likes of which we rarely see in college football. The

758
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: big boys have inexperienced rosters and they don't have high

759
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: level quarterback play. The door is just wide open for

760
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: all kinds of craziness to happen. So yeah, that's that it.

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00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: I think it's the biggest question collectively. I think it's

762
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: the biggest question about sport this year. Next question, I

763
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: just assume skip this. Let me let me crack open

764
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: the ZVA right quick. Oh oh, you want some breaking news.

765
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: I am addressing the country right now with breaking news.

766
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: They made orange cream sickle ZVA, and I'm told it's

767
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: only available at Sprout's supermarket right now, but I get

768
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: the stuff mailed to me, you know, because that's the

769
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: perk of having ZV as a partner on the show.

770
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: This is the best flavor of Zvia I have ever tasted.

771
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: It has surpassed cream soda. Cream soda has dropped to

772
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: number two in the Power ratings. That's how serious I

773
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: am about this. I have inhaled the stuff all weekend.

774
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: I don't care if you can't get the Sprouts. I've

775
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: never advocated for shopping for zero sugar soda on the

776
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: black market, but if you ever do it, this is

777
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: the time to do it. This stuff is delicious, old please,

778
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: three SIPs consecutively didn't even.

779
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 2: Come up for air.

780
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: That, however, you think zero sugar orange cream sickle soda

781
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: should taste.

782
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: That's it.

783
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: That's it right there, all right now. From something that's

784
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: great in the world today to something that's pathetic.

785
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: Neil, hit me up.

786
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to say about Diego Pavia throwing

787
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: you under the bus and slandering your name?

788
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: Who's Diego Pavia?

789
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: That's what I have to say, Neil, who whom's Diego?

790
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: Never heard of her? So apparently local quarterback Diego Pavia.

791
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia is on busting with the Boys

792
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: friends of the program there for reasons that I'll show

793
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: you in just a second, and some innocuous conversations going

794
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: on there. They're getting ready to tee up the upcoming

795
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: season and basking in the glory of the Alabama upset

796
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: from last year. And look, I don't need to tell

797
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: you what happened. Many of you have already seen it.

798
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: But for those of you who have not seen or

799
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: heard this, this is a snippet from Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia.

800
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Whoever that is on busting with the Boys this.

801
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: Week, expect Josh Pate to be talking about this. Yeah, yeah,

802
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: who's Josh Pate? Oh my god, what do you do?

803
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: Almost the brightest mind in college football. Actually he's a

804
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 3: future commissioner of college football. He's got a show.

805
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh I've seen this guy. I know.

806
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: His name is Josh Pate. Very put together, ripped, well spoken,

807
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: definitely wears true classic bright mind.

808
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: He loves you.

809
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: Hey, my bad Josh Pate. Nope, not good enough, not

810
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: good enough? Now big hat Tip will Compton, Taylor Lawe.

811
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: They saw an injustice happening in real time and they

812
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: did what real ones do. They stood up for someone

813
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: who could not defend himself. And can you can imagine, Jesse,

814
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: We went to a Vanderbilt game last year.

815
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: First off, we went to.

816
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: A Vanderbilt game because we support our local teams. Contrary

817
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: to what Barton Simmons may suggest, we support our local teams.

818
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: And we put Diego Pavia in our SEC quarterback power

819
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: rankings the other day at the expense of Georgia and

820
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Alabama's starting quarterback. Did we not? And what's the thanks

821
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: that we get? We get blindsided by treachery, not even

822
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: on our show. At least come on my show and

823
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: ask who are you? He goes on another show, who

824
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: is Josh Pape? Well, let me tell you something I

825
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: don't forget, and in this case, I don't even forgive,

826
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: but I do appreciate. I do appreciate our friends down

827
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: there are the boys on the bus. They at least

828
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: held up their end of the social contract. Diego Pavia

829
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: apparently not quite ready to do the same. What kind

830
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: of program is Clark Lee running when his players are

831
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: not exposing themselves to the noise outside the program. What

832
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of operation are they running down there? That's just

833
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: the NCAA needs to be on that. That's what they

834
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: need to be on. Take time out from ann arbor. Well, actually,

835
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: you probably need to deal with that. It's pretty serious.

836
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: But I look, we don't ask for much. We don't

837
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: ask for much. New quarterback rankings for the SEC coming

838
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: this week, by the way, all right, let's move along

839
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: more big questions. Kendall from Boston, Massachusetts. Hey, what if

840
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: Alabama repeats what they did last year? They go nine

841
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: to three, they missed the playoff into Boor's second year,

842
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: does the panic level go through the roof? Uh? Yeah, absolutely,

843
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: it's through the roof. The truth is, the fan base

844
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: will lose it if they go nine to three, if

845
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: they missed the playoff, fan base will lose it. Should

846
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: they Well, that's not what he asked. The reality is

847
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: this is well within the cluster of possibilities. If we

848
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: simulate the season one hundred times, you know, and it's

849
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: little dots on the wall, we call it a cluster.

850
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: There are a lot of nine and threes in there.

851
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: There's some ten and two's, there's some eight and fours

852
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: believing or not, There are a lot of nine and

853
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: threes in there.

854
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: It's not even all that unreasonable.

855
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: You know. One of the great mysteries, the great unknowns

856
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: that will forever be an unknown, is what would have

857
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: happened if Saban never left? He did at the right

858
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: time he did, But what would have happened if he

859
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: never left? See this kind of question and the freak

860
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: out that will happen if Bama only goes nine to three.

861
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: That's the Sabin tax. The Saban tax was always going

862
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: to be there. Whoever takes over for him is gonna

863
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: have gigantic shoes to fill. You know, this is not

864
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: a concept that is foreign to most. But I wonder

865
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: if he never left, if Chris Low best in the business,

866
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: if Chris Low never breaks the news Nick Saban's retiring

867
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: and Saban's just there last year, what's their record? If

868
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: he's there this year, what's their record? You know, history

869
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: will remember Saban is the best to ever do it

870
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: rightfully so and they'll remember that he was dominant number

871
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: one program or number one A program right up until

872
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: the end. In fact, his.

873
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: Final game was in the College Football Playoff.

874
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: You know, Bama never fell off, which is true, but

875
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: Bama did come back down to earth. In the latter

876
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: stages of Saban's tenure, they were a heavily penalized team,

877
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: but also they played a ton of close games. And

878
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: the reason I'm mentioning that is not to take anything

879
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: away from Nick Saban. My point is, how do we

880
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: know if Saban was still there, he wouldn't have gone

881
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: nine and three last year too? How do we know

882
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: if he wasn't there that he may not go nine

883
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: and three this year too. And I want to take

884
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: you back to twenty twenty three, because they had a

885
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: bunch of close games.

886
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: Then they lost to Texas.

887
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: They had probably the worst game I've ever seen them

888
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: play under him against South Florida ended up winning seventeen

889
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: to three. They beat A and M by six, They

890
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: beat Arkansas by three, They needed the fourth and thirty

891
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: one miracle to win the Iron Bowl.

892
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: They were the equivalent.

893
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Of a three or four lost team in terms of

894
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: one hundred games simulation that year. So it's not crazy.

895
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: And yet Nick Saban's won half a dozen national tie Alabama,

896
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: so he had all the equity built up in the world.

897
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Kaylen de Bor's brand new he has no equity built up,

898
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: and so if he goes nine and three two years

899
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: in a row, it's an existential crisis and mark my words,

900
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: it will be I'm.

901
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: Not even fighting that. Okay, it's a losing battle.

902
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: If he goes nine to three again, Wayne from Wa Tumka,

903
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: he's at the door. He wants answers Greg Byrn, what

904
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? And Greg Burn's like huh, he said, yeah,

905
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 1: who are you gonna go higher?

906
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: Well for what a new football coach?

907
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that would be the tenor that would be

908
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: the tone in the state of Alabama. Now what it

909
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: would do also is it would kill the aura of

910
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Alabama football. Like right now it is reasonable to say

911
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Saban's gone. Kaylen de bors here, Yeah, they missed the

912
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: playoff last year, but man, there's there's still something that

913
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: is extra special about that script day. It's a different

914
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: vibe when they walk in your building. It's a different

915
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: vibe when coaches walk in my high school. And they

916
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: got that logo on the polo here that still exists.

917
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: If they missed the playoff a second straight year, it's

918
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: it's not that Bama's a poverty program, but that aura

919
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: is probably gone and they're just another of the really

920
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: good programs out there. That's how quick I think that

921
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: can happen. So what I'm looking at with them is

922
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: all the indicators are there pointing up. They're recruiting very well,

923
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: they have got an extremely good staff.

924
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: And they got the quarterback of the future.

925
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: In Keelon Russell. So if they go nine to three

926
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: this year, it would be a crisis for a lot

927
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: of people. I wouldn't look at it that way, but

928
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not necessarily prone to thinking that way.

929
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: What I was most worried about for their sake when

930
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Saban left before we ever knew who was going to

931
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: take over for him, was is recruiting going to fall

932
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: off a cliff?

933
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: Is everybody gonna leave?

934
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: Is the staff that replaces Saban and his staff gonna

935
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: be half what they were? Well, a lot of those

936
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: concerns are more than erased. The opposite's true. They're still

937
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: getting really good players, they're still a really good portal destination.

938
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: But more importantly, do that staff's really good, really good

939
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: coaching staff. So the results should work downstream of that

940
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: is my point. So I'm not really worried about them

941
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: in fact, I think Bama will be a playoff team

942
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: this year. But if they're not, if they're nine and three,

943
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: then yeah, I don't know how else to put it.

944
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: It will be it will be perceived as a crisis,

945
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: even if it's not. Several quick trips across the state

946
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: of Alabama, including I believe two of them in Tuscal Looser,

947
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: there's one on Farland, there's one of a little ways

948
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: down the interstate there. I have stopped it both personally.

949
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't play favorites either one of them will do.

950
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: When we're stormchasing down in that part of the country,

951
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I tend to leave the vehicle that we're not chasing

952
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: in at one of those quick trips because no quick

953
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: trip has ever been hit by a tornado. It's a

954
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: fact that I just made up. But a quick trip,

955
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, they are the place to go beyond

956
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: storm chasing. Just if you need gas, you know, good

957
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: old fashioned topping off of one's tank, they'll do that

958
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: for you. But also emotionally they could top off the tank.

959
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: You need some cold brew, they got it on tap literally,

960
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: but I mean any kind of cuisine that you could

961
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: put on a roller grill. You can find it there,

962
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: and they're the exclusive fuel.

963
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: Provider of our tour.

964
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: So still I keep saying this every show we do.

965
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 1: I keep saying, we need to replay the commitment video

966
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: from last year because we got a lot of n

967
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: got it probably like our numbers say, hundreds of thousands

968
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: of new viewers from this time last year, So we

969
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: probably need to play that for you, not tonight, but

970
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: I will assume.

971
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: Let's move along.

972
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: A lot of good questions, a lot of suspense, a

973
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: lot of mystery and intrigue in the show tonight, so

974
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: why not continue? I asked you what your biggest questions

975
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: in college football this year were? Phil says, well, how

976
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: good will Penn State really be? So I went to

977
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: producer Jesse and I said, all right, what is success

978
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: for y'all this year? Last year, you went to the

979
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Big Ten title, you went to the playoff, you won

980
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: two games in the playoff, you got to the semi finals.

981
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: So what is success this year? And this is official

982
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: from producer Jesse? He says, they have to win a

983
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: big game in the regular season. So that's Oregon at home,

984
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: it's Ohio State on the road. They need to win

985
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: one of those and they need to win either the

986
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: Big Ten title or they need to win the whole thing. Now,

987
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: I asked Jesse, all right, what happens if you beat

988
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: Oregon at home but you lose to Ohio State? You

989
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: win the Big Ten title, so kind of like Oregon

990
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: did last year, but you get smoked in the first

991
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: game you play in the playoff. And he dismissed it.

992
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: He doesn't think that's going to happen. So, look, I

993
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: really believe in this team. I believe in Penn State.

994
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: Sort of one of those if it doesn't happen, now,

995
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: when is it ever going to happen? I'm talking about

996
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: winning a national title. I'm talking about competing for the

997
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: Big Ten and competing for a national championship. That's my

998
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: expectation for them this year. I've got dependability at the

999
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: quarterback position. You notice when you say that, people say

1000
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Drew Aller's not elite, Hey, what if he's not? What

1001
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: if he just plays solid and dependably? What if he

1002
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: does that? And they got those tailbacks two thousand yard

1003
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: caliber tailbacks, got a really good offensive line. I think

1004
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: they made some pivotal moves at the wide receiver position

1005
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: in the portal went and got Jim Knowles as their DC.

1006
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: That should be a top ten fifteen caliber defensive unit. Honestly,

1007
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: the profile of that team may be a little bit

1008
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: more offensively slanted than people expect.

1009
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: Wouldn't surprise me.

1010
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: But they don't even have to rev their engine until

1011
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: week five, like their schedule. If you're worried that all

1012
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: of the preseason hype will go to their head, it

1013
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because their first losable game

1014
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: is September twenty seventh against Oregon at home, not at noon.

1015
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: By the way, that is a primetime kickoff, So my wish,

1016
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: our wish has finally become a reality. But they're playing

1017
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: Nevada FIU and Villan Nova, then a bye before they

1018
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: play Oregon. I mean, it's an Ohio State vibe. This

1019
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: last year, Ohio State had the vibe of we're all

1020
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: in on twenty twenty four. And that didn't mean they

1021
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: were gonna, you know, disappear as a program beyond that.

1022
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, I remember I remember being up at

1023
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: Ohio State sitting in Mark Pantoni's office and he said,

1024
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: it is twenty twenty four, We're all in on it.

1025
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: And they won the national title.

1026
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: But what if they didn't, I mean, how draining does

1027
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: that feel? Well, Penn State even more so because I

1028
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: don't know that I can just blindly count on Penn

1029
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: State to reload like I can sort of count on

1030
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State to So this is really, really really all in.

1031
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: We're all in on twenty twenty five. It it just

1032
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Okay, so it's very weird. You got

1033
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: to be a college football fan to understand this. There

1034
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: were a lot of doubters going into last year. James

1035
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Franklin and Penn State had a lot of doubters. And

1036
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: the doubters would say, they can't win big games, they

1037
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: can't get over the hump. They're just good, but they'll

1038
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: never be great, and so you would look at that

1039
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: and you would say, wait. But then they went to

1040
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: the Big Ten title game and they made it all

1041
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: the way to the semi finals of the playoffs. So

1042
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: clearly that silenced the doubters, right, It did not at all.

1043
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: The doubters still have every bit of am that they

1044
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: they used to have because they would look at that

1045
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: and say, okay, yeah, but but our critiques were that

1046
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: you can't win the big games, and you can't get

1047
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: over the hunk. And all you did last year was

1048
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: lose to Ohio, stayed at home again. You went to

1049
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: the Big Ten title game.

1050
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: And you lost to Oregon.

1051
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: So you got two shots against the big boys. You lost. Yeah,

1052
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: you made the playoff, and yeah you won a couple

1053
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: of games. Who'd you beat? You beat Boise and SMU

1054
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: you absolutely should beat them. And then you got paired

1055
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: against the equal competitor and Notre Dame and you lost.

1056
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: So you didn't do anything last year that you have

1057
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: been criticized of not being able to do before. That's

1058
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: what a hater, That's what a dobter would say. There

1059
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: is merit to it. By the way, I don't necessarily

1060
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: even disagree. So this is the year, more so than

1061
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: any year in recent history, that I can recall that

1062
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: Penn State should be geared up to silence, that forget

1063
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: about doubters. It prove it to yourself. It's there, it's

1064
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: there at the end of the world. If you don't

1065
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: do it. James Franklin doesn't just retire if they don't

1066
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: do it. But it is a failure if they're not

1067
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: competing for a national championship this year. That is my

1068
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: humble opinion. Oh boy, what a pressing question up next?

1069
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: Got a big crowd?

1070
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: Did you hear that allegedly they were playing Game seven

1071
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: of the NBA Finals tonight. Don't tell our live audience that.

1072
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: Who I'm sure our friend, our friends. We got a

1073
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: lot of friends in Oklahoma City, So I'm not hating

1074
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: on the thunder. But a lot of those guys are

1075
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: at the game tonight, But a lot more people are

1076
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: watching the show too. Michael in Greer, South Carolina, Hey,

1077
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: what's the best weight room you've gotten to use on

1078
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: your tours? Now this I could go for twenty minutes on,

1079
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: but I won't. Immunity. My answer is not what you're

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00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna think it is. So first, let me say there

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00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: are type weight rooms out there Georgia. I mean a

1082
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Speaker 1: lot of the dude, I'm just telling you, these places

1083
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: are like NASA when you go to some of the

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00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: big SEC and big ten places like Coach Sinclair down

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00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: at Georgia. They let us in there. Worked out at

1086
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: Georgia several times day. Blew over to Alabama, work out

1087
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: there every time we're there. Man, So Florida's really good, Tennessee.

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00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: Every time I go there, they'll let us work out there.

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: That's a really good weight room. A lot of these

1090
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: are adjoined to the indoor, so if you want to

1091
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: get like cardio in, you can do sets and then

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00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: go to the indoor.

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00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: Penn State's awesome. Penn State.

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00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: Man, you got to be careful up there. Penn State.

1095
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: No pictures, no videos. You gotta watch yourself up there.

1096
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State, good weight room.

1097
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: Been in there.

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00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: LSU worked out down there when we were there this

1099
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: past year. None of them are bad. Texas yes, Oregon yes,

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: but you notice I'm knocking down a lot of them.

1101
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not telling you any of these are my favorites.

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00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: So I have not worked out at Michigan. I know

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00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: they got a good one, but I'm knocking a lot

1104
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: of them down. At Arizona State. I love Arizona State

1105
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: because of the staff out there too. Coach Connelly, you

1106
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: watching this tonight. But my favorite weight room, I kid

1107
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: you not that I have worked out in is West Virginia.

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00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: West Virginia does not have the biggest per like square

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00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: footage space in the country by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 1: West Virginia's weight room if you can work out in there,

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00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: by yourself, Like I got to has more equipment than

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00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: any other program I've ever seen. They have got equipment

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: from all eras stacked in there. They got equipment, They

1114
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: got machines I've never seen anywhere else. Now, a lot

1115
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: of them. You need to be an offensive lineman to

1116
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: fully take advantage of. But West Virginia when I went

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00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: up there a few months ago and I got to

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00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: work out there, ended up being my favorite weight room

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Speaker 1: I've ever worked out in.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: I was not in there for team workouts. I would

1122
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: imagine it gets very cramped in there for team workouts.

1123
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: So that's not my problem though, because I got to

1124
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: work out in there alone. So working out in there alone,

1125
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: it was great. Man. I couldn't believe it. I could

1126
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Speaker 1: not believe it. I love being on the road in

1127
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Speaker 1: the spring because we get to be well, you get

1128
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Speaker 1: one on one time with coaches and staffs and stuff.

1129
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Speaker 2: But you get to use the weight room.

1130
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: But also you could just go like you go run

1131
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: stadium steps and there's nobody there.

1132
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Speaker 2: There's nobody in there.

1133
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: Just you're so used to those places being packed and

1134
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: you're watching it on TV or you're there in person,

1135
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: and it's deafening, But there's a little something to be

1136
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: said about being there when you can just hear the

1137
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: birds chirping in the spring, a little breeze blowing through

1138
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: the concourse, you could hear it. It's like sitting on

1139
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Speaker 1: your back porch in the late afternoon, except it's a

1140
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: football stadium and hardly anyone gets that vantage point. We

1141
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: get it. But yeah, West Virginia, of all places, West

1142
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Speaker 1: Virginia's weight room has been my favorite out of all

1143
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: the ones we've been to. Never would have seen it

1144
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: coming in a million years. Now. What are the Mountaineers

1145
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Speaker 1: odds to win the Big twelve? Not great, but if

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Speaker 1: I want to throw fanduels a way. Yeah, they're Vanderbilt related.

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Speaker 1: It's personal. It is personal right now.

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Speaker 2: But whether you're interested in that or not.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams we've talked about on

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Speaker 1: the show tonight, a lot of playoff contenders we've talked

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Speaker 1: about on the show tonight. But see, you could be

1155
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,000
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Speaker 1: here with bold predictions. Bold predictions. What do you believe

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Speaker 1: me read these predictions on the show, and if it

1184
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Speaker 1: goes wrong, you're willing to suffer the utter humiliation. Well,

1185
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Speaker 1: let's check in in Athens, Georgia. Average Georgia fan predicts

1186
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 1: that Georgia goes through the entire regular season they win

1187
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: every home game, which would make them thirty nine straight

1188
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: at home if they win all their home games this year.

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Speaker 1: Trivia Quick paper popper trivia question, what was Georgia's last

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Speaker 1: home loss? Quick trip logo. There in the background if

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Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, that would be South Carolina in

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Speaker 1: an overtime win against Georgia in twenty nineteen. That's the

1193
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Speaker 1: they haven't lost a home game in the post COVID era,

1194
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: so they've been pretty good.

1195
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The good news is they have Marshall, Austin, p and

1197
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: Charlotte at home this year. The bad news, or the

1198
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: less good news is they do also play Ole Miss

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Speaker 1: in Alabama and Texas, and you can put Kentucky wherever

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Speaker 1: you want. Georgia barely beat Kentucky last year, so let's

1201
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: not overlook them. I think this is a nine. Georgie's

1202
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: got a tough, tough home slate this year. It's a

1203
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: great year to be a home season ticket holder at Georgia,

1204
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make that one a nine. I think

1205
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: the odds are far greater than not that they drop

1206
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: at least one of those games. Next up, this one's

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01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: really bold. Thomas from Chicago said, Michigan and USC make

1208
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Speaker 1: the playoff, Texas and Ohio State missed the playoff. So

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Speaker 1: just right off the bat, if you're betting Texas and

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Speaker 1: Ohio State to miss the playoff entirely, you're betting the

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Speaker 1: Title odds to just miss entirely. That's already really bold.

1213
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: Texas is minus three hundred to make it. Ohio State's

1214
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: minus three to twenty five to make it. Now on

1215
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Speaker 1: the other side, you're saying Michigan and USC are gonna

1216
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: make it. Michigan's plus two ten, USC is plus five

1217
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,959
Speaker 1: seventy to make the playoff. UH. Texas and Ohio State

1218
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: do play each other in Week one, but Michigan and

1219
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: USC play each other, so one of them is guaranteed

1220
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Speaker 1: to lose that game. Obviously, Michigan also has to go

1221
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: to OU in out of conference play. USC plays Notre

1222
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Speaker 1: Dame on the road in out of conference play. You

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Speaker 1: would return about twenty four grand. So that's a nine

1226
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Speaker 1: point seventy five on the boldness scale. Next up, let's

1227
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Speaker 1: head the Big Twelve, where I'm told we never go

1228
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: on this show. By the way, shame on us, Big Twelve.

1229
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: When's the last time we talked about them other than

1230
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Speaker 1: every show? Jace says, TCU takes down Texas Tech in

1231
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Speaker 1: the Big twelve championship game. So just to give you

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Speaker 1: an idea of how irrelevant odds are in the Big Twelve.

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01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: Arizona State was fifteenth in the preseason last year and

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: they won the thing. Having said that, I think that's

1235
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Speaker 1: evidence of how unpredictable the Big Twelve is. Not only

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Speaker 1: are you picking the champ, you're picking the exact matchup.

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Speaker 2: That's a nine point five to me.

1238
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: Texas Tech has the second best odds to win this league.

1239
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: TCU has the sixth best odds to win this league.

1240
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: TCU also, we think plays the toughest strength of schedule

1241
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: in the conference this year. So we're gonna make that

1242
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: one a solid nine point five. And I'll tell you

1243
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: another nine point five to wrap the show up here.

1244
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: It's color coded too. These are always really really good

1245
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: color coding. James says that five or more orange teams

1246
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: make the college football Playoff. Now, there was heavy debate

1247
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: James in the control room about whether Boise is an

1248
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: orange team, and I say no. And there was debate

1249
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: about whether Auburn is an orange team or Miami. I

1250
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: say no. Auburn is a predominantly blue team. Miami's green,

1251
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: Boise's blue. So no, I'm not counting those, but I

1252
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: do count Texas and Clemson in Tennessee and Illinois and

1253
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Oregon State, Syracuse. Here's the problem. I don't

1254
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Speaker 1: think five of them are going to make the playoff. Texas, Okay, Clemson,

1255
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: but you quickly get into Tennessee.

1256
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Speaker 2: That's very iffy.

1257
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: Illinois a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure for

1258
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: a program not used to it. I don't think five

1259
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: of them are gonna make it. Syracuse got no shot

1260
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: this year. They got quite the toughest schedule this side

1261
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: of like the SEC. So I'm gonna put a nine.

1262
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: It may even be a nine point seven five, I'm

1263
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,959
Speaker 1: gonna put let me give a nine point five.

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: Let me give a nine.

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01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: Point five on that one. Colors those color coded questions

1266
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: can be really, really tricky. Plus you never know what

1267
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Speaker 1: Mike Gundy's gonna do. All right, we appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: so much. Good viewership tonight, NBA Finals, geopolitical chaos all

1269
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Speaker 1: over the place, just humming merrily along.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're inside.

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Speaker 1: We're inside ten weeks now until kickoff, not of some teams,

1272
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: but of every team. So it's on the horizon. We're

1273
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Speaker 1: just about there. I appreciate it so much. Let's have

1274
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Speaker 1: a great solid start to the week for director Bradley,

1275
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Speaker 1: producer Jesse. I'm Josh Bate. Take care. We'll see you

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