1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and Buck with you 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: on a Friday, Buck, what's going on? 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Man? 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: And that's too much? Man? 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Friday is always a fun day. We've got a good 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: football weekend coming up, so I'm excited about all of it. 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, fun weekend of games, including a London game Jets 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: and Vikings. That's going to be nine thirty am Eastern 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: on NFL Network and on NFL Plus, so be sure 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: to look out. 13 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: For that one. 14 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: We're in the middle of postseason for baseball, Buck, it 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: feels like right now, heading into the fifth week of 16 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: the NFL season with the changes, you know, going to 17 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: seventeen games and then going down to three preseason games 18 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: and guys not really playing much in the preseason, I 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: feel like week five, I think that's a good I 20 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: think that's a good marker to kind of see where 21 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: everybody's at, and you know, you kind of look at 22 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: these standings where we are right now heading into week five. 23 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: I was trying to think of, you know, for today's show, 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: I want to kind of do some some surprises, right, 25 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: and so I've got some individuals, uh you know what 26 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: they're doing that that will hit on and maybe there's 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: something we can learn from from those individual performances. But 28 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: I also wanted it to get to you on the 29 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: team thing. So I'm gonna give you how about you 30 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: remember we used to do the what was the thing 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: we did on path the draft for was like eh, 32 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: it was like thumbs up, thumbs down, Like eh, okay, 33 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: you know it's something like that. Okay, so we'll go 34 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: that route. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you some team 35 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: things like, uh, big surprise. 36 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: How about big surprise? 37 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: Uh uh no surprise, and then maybe just kind of 38 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: if you got like nothing on it, if you just 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: think it's kind of all, you're ready. 40 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: All right, So let's start. 41 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: Let's go first of all, in the AFC east of 42 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins being one in three. 43 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Big surprise, Big surprise because DJ we've been told for 44 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: so long that the weapons around two are propping them 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: up that anybody could jump in this offense and have 46 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: the kind of success with the speed and the playmakers 47 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: that they have around the quarterback to a tone about 48 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Lewa goes out and this offense is sputtering you have 49 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: a frustrated Tybrie Hill. 50 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: You have other guys who can't get the rock. 51 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: I am surprised because I thought this team has some 52 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: of the most explosive firepower, was explosive weaponry that we've 53 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: seen in the league, and they have fallen apart. 54 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: But I just starting quarterback. 55 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, uh, I think it shows you the value 56 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: that that that Tua possesses. I also, man, that bad 57 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: news just keeps coming from the Miami Dolphins other day, 58 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips season ending knee injury. Man, that is brutal 59 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 3: for a very talented young player who's just been really 60 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: kind of just ravaged by injuries so far early in 61 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: his career. But look, I'm with you in terms of 62 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: the surprise that they're one and three, But I'm not 63 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: surprised based off what they had behind Tua. That this 64 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: is you know that you know, house of cards. You know, 65 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: at this point in time, we should have seen that coming. 66 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: We should you know, That's something maybe we don't pay 67 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: enough attention to in the offseason. Is just like, can 68 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: any of these teams, like what teams can absorb some 69 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: injuries here, especially at the important positions. 70 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, not many and The thing that I worry about 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: what the Miami Dolphins is. Man, how can you not 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: have a thorough insurance policy against it when you dealt 73 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: with this board like that. That should have been something 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: that should have been day one. 75 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: So now you roll the dice. It doesn't work out 76 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: for you. 77 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: And I mean you're trying to salvage some stuff without 78 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: your top quarterback. It is hard to do in the 79 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: league without a QB. 80 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: One. 81 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: Let's go to the next division here is how much 82 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: of a surprise that the Pittsburgh Steelers are the only 83 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: team with the winning record in a division I thought 84 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: would be the best division in football this year, the 85 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: AFC North. 86 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think the records are reflective 87 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: of it being the best division in football, even though 88 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: you got a bunch of people sitting it right at 89 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: five hundred. Look, the football that is played to the 90 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: eye is solid rock them soccer, robot football. 91 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: And you're going to have to deal with how. 92 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Each of these teams bring a little physicality and toughness 93 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: to the table. The thing about it, the Pittsburgh Steelers 94 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: being three and one little surprise, But I was probably 95 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: optimistic about justin fields. 96 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: If he had his opportunity. 97 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: I think, to me, the fact that it took two 98 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: games for the Baltimore Ravens to find their identity, they 99 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: found ad and then unleash it on the foes. Yeah, 100 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: it's a different it's a different game we're talking about now. 101 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cincinnati and Cleveland both being one and three, it 102 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: feels Cincinnati's one and three feels different like this is 103 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: they're gonna be okay. Cleveland's won and three just kind 104 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: of I. 105 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Gotta dj I gotta ask you this, man, because it's 106 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: one of the more fascinating things. Man, I go back 107 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: and I look at all my notes on the Sean 108 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Watson and all this. 109 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen. 110 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: On the field a player's game changed like the Shaun 111 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: Watson's game is part I've never I mean, this dude 112 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: was so good in Houston, so good on a bad 113 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: team in Houston, and he cannot get right in Cleveland. 114 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: It is one of the more remarkable stories that old 115 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: scouts will talk about in terms of like just I 116 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: can't even say some right. 117 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: He can't be. 118 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Categorized as a miss in terms of the league because 119 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: he's three time pro bo. However, the last two three 120 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: years have not been great, not great. 121 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is obviously you can't talk about 122 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: that without talking about the fact of what happened with 123 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: him off the field and then missing time on top 124 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: of that. And it's it's a reminder that, look, these 125 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: things aren't you know, separate what goes on in your 126 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: own life away from football one hundred percent impacts what 127 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: you you know, what you put out there on the 128 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: football field. I don't know how else you could. I 129 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: don't know how you can explain that without mentioning that 130 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: obviously new team, new offense, maybe that didn't fit him 131 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: as well, goes from indoors to outdoors. But no, just 132 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: as a player, it doesn't resemble anything like he used 133 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: to be in Houston. And I think that's you have 134 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: to acknowledge. That's a big, big part of it. Yeah, 135 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: that is a big, big part of it. 136 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that we talk about, like 137 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: the character, the football character, the more character whatever the 138 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: character is, like really trying to understand what makes guys tick. 139 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: And it's crazy. 140 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I've ever seen anything 141 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: that has gone so left so fast. 142 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: Well, don't say that yet, because the next topic is 143 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: going to be the team that you work for being 144 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: oh and four in the AFC South with the Jags. 145 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean, how shocked are you? Did you envision going 146 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: into this year that they over no, not off the 147 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: way it finished last year. 148 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: No, not over thought it would be tough sliding to 149 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: open the game, but then kind of got positive and 150 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: optimistic if you saw them jump out to a significant 151 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: lead against the Miami Dolphins and be able to control 152 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the game and then to have a mistake like a 153 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: fumble going in where you can go up by seventeen 154 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: and then to just fall apart the rest of that game. 155 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: It bleeds into the following week. Now you can't get 156 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: a win. You run into a hornet's nest in Buffalo 157 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and you look up. You're owing three. You're fighting like 158 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: the Dickens to hang in there against Texas, and then 159 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: their quarterback makes a play, so you're oing four. Your 160 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: quarterback doesn't have confidence. He was number one over our pick, 161 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: he was held as a generational talent. He doesn't have confidence. 162 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: You don't have any anything to really build upon it. 163 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: This is about as bad or as hard of a 164 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: offensive situation as you can find yourself. 165 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: They have a negative forty nine point differential, So I 166 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: mean that is not great for what we've seen thus far. 167 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: From the Jags, We'll see if they can get something 168 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: turned around and get it rolling here. All right, let's 169 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: go to the AFC. West Man, It's hard to find 170 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: a surprise here. I mean when you look at the Charters, Raiders, 171 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: and Broncos all two and two, which that deals kind 172 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: of about what the expectation was, Kansas City being the 173 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: class of division at four and oh, I guess my 174 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: surprise would be that even though they're winning games, and 175 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: a lot of it, you know, from this standpoint, has 176 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: to do with the injuries, but this is still I mean, 177 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: outside of one big played Xavier Worthy, this is still 178 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: not the Chiefs offense that I know they were trying 179 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: to get back to. It's still a defensive driven team. 180 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the surprise. 181 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: We thought it would be back to the fund days, right, 182 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: the days of Travis Glies, Taran Kiel like uh Tyreek 183 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Kale like really just blitz and past day. 184 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: They haven't been able to do it. 185 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: And Saveryworthy's given them flashes, but he hasn't given them 186 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: the consistency to be that playmaker. They just have to 187 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: continue to wait for the other guys to grow up 188 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: and show up and show up. But right now, if 189 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: I am Andy Reid, I'm leaning into Steve speG Newlin's saying, hey, man, 190 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: you got to keep scoring down because I don't know 191 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: how many we can put on the board on a court. 192 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: No doubt. 193 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's go quickly for the NFC. If we 194 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: go to the NFC East Washington. How many people thought 195 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: Washington would be first place in the division right now? 196 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: Not me? 197 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: How many people thought Jade Daniels played like an absolute 198 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: rock star first time into the league. His emotional control, 199 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: his composure, his patience, his discipline, the work ethic dead 200 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: he's brought. Man, I have to say, I'm super impressed 201 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: with what he's been able to do so quickly in Washington. 202 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: I was. 203 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: I think Jaydon Daniels and you know you were these 204 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: watches and it gives you your beats permanent when you 205 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 3: look down at him, buck like I almost want I 206 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: almost wonder like if you put him in stressful situations 207 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: and hooked him up to a monitor, I'm like, does 208 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: this heartbeat ever? 209 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like it? So common? 210 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: So cool, and it's just another case DJ prioritizing and 211 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: coveting experience at the collegiate level. Fifty five collegiate starts 212 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: significant and look, there's a common denominator we've seen. Brock 213 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Fordy had forty nine stars, and Kyle is like, there's 214 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: something to playing the game, playing the position, and we 215 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: all need rest, but there's something that these other guys have. 216 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: It's interesting. 217 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the NFC North quickly. Minnesota Vikings. 218 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: Not the fact that they're four and oh really, not 219 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: even the fact that Sam's playing well. I think we 220 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: both felt like Sam would do well with Kevin. I 221 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: would say Flora is in this defense, even after having 222 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: lost to Neil Hunter. The way that they're playing would 223 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: be maybe the biggest surprises. They said four and oh. 224 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the biggest surprise, and I think 225 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: anyone who's an X and no NERD you should really 226 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: look at what it Minnesota Vikings are doing. They're doing 227 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: a mix of pre snap blitz disguise post snap movement 228 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: that really befuddles quarterbacks. 229 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: But then it's not only that DJ. 230 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: They're doing some of the stuff that pad Nor Doozy 231 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: made famous first in Michigan State but now Pittsburgh in 232 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: terms of what they call hot coverage or eyes coverage, 233 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: where two under three deep they're bringing six. When you 234 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: bring six, you're guarantee to get someone free. 235 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: And when you mix that with the ability to do. 236 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: These exotic drop eight coverages where you have eight defenders 237 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: in the box and you don't know who's coming, who's not, 238 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: who's dropping in. This is a team that comes after you, 239 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: but they play zone primarily all the time. He has 240 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: been so creative in that that I know he has 241 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: lawsuits out. 242 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: In those things. 243 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how you're going to go through the 244 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: next cycle and at least not kick the tize on 245 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Brian Floydes for the job that he's done with the 246 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and what he has also learned from working 247 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: alongside Kevin O'Connor. 248 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done a great job. NFC South, the biggest 249 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: surprise there, I don't I don't even know that there 250 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: is one. I don't think there's anything too shocking by 251 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: what we've seen there. I mean, really that division is 252 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: kind of it's kind of right where we thought it 253 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: was gonna be. 254 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: I would say the bigges surprise for me for the 255 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers is that the clock didn't strike midnight 256 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: on Cinderella AKA am Yeah, because there's a bit of 257 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: a concern that maybe this was going to be look 258 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a one year wonder in terms 259 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: of him playing really well there. But I'll say this DJ, 260 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: when you watch him play man, his fingerprints are all 261 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: on the game plan, all on the team, his confidence, 262 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: how decisive he is as a player, give him a 263 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: lot of credit. It's another thing we talked about Sam 264 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Donald previously. It's amazing the talent that you can see 265 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and since and when you match it up with the 266 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: right playmaker, right play caller, it just goes to the 267 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: next level. Baker and Tampa has worked, Sam obviously in 268 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: Minnesota is working. It took seven years for us to 269 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: get those force right came around, But the environment matters, 270 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: and it matters probably even more than some people give 271 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: you credit. 272 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: NFC west Man, you know, look the Rams and the 273 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: Cardinals at one and three, apiece, San Francisco being two 274 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: and two, Seattle three and one, and I'm gonna get 275 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: the Seattle and Gino Smith in a minute. When I 276 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 3: go through some of the individual players that will hit. 277 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 3: But I would say, look, and Christian McCaffrey not being there, 278 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: but San Francisco being two and two, I think is 279 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 3: a surprise. 280 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a surprise, but the Super Bowl hangover is real, 281 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: and it's not just how everyone was lined up outside 282 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: of Shanahan and John. Lynch's off is to get an 283 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: upgrade on the contract, but some of the powdy, sucky 284 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: behavior that you've seen from some guys. 285 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: Who got paid. 286 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Brendan and I got paid, but it's still silently protesting 287 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: on the brightness field. 288 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: Everyone's wearing black. He wants to wear red. 289 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: It is the weirdest interaction that I've seen a team 290 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: rewards played with the contract that he agreed to and 291 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: we're not even kicking off games and he is already upset. 292 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: Look, it is just. 293 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: Such a weird situation in San Francisco that Look, I 294 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: think that has to be the biggest storyline. 295 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: Yep, I'm with you on that one. So those are 296 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: some of these surprises that we have team wise. I 297 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: want to get to some individuals and we'll do that 298 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: right after this, all right, Buck, I'm gonna rip through these. 299 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: Number one Gino Smith is leading the NFL in passing yards. 300 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Grubb is a g He does agreed job of 301 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: reading opportunities. JSN may have tipped us off in terms 302 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: of how excited he was about the new play call 303 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: and what it was going to be. And basically they've 304 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: done all the great stuff that he did a UW. 305 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: I can't even say taking it across the street, but 306 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: take it across town and is working just as well 307 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. They've done a really good 308 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: job of unlocking some of the things that Gino Smith 309 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: is able to do and putting him in a situation 310 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: where he can win easting every week by simply just 311 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: playing within the confines. 312 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: Of the offense. 313 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: So here's my question. I was on with Brockensack up 314 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: and up in Seattle and we were talking about Geno 315 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: and maybe the lack of respect that he gets, and 316 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: they brought up a good point, which was what happens, 317 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: you know, going into the future here, Like if Gino 318 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: Smith says I want fifty million dollars a year and 319 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: he says, look what two is making, Look what Trevor 320 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: Lawrence is making, and look what I'm doing, Like at 321 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: some point time it's like, hey, This went from a 322 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: cute little a cute little Oh he's you know, he's 323 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: turned himself into a decent player to if he ends 324 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: the season like this and he leads the NFL in 325 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: passing yards, you know, coming off of what we've seen, 326 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: you know over the last couple of years, like this 327 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: is not something you know that that's a one off 328 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: here he's put together some some production here Seattle, and 329 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: he's done it with different coaches and he's thirty three 330 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: years old. But that's not what it was like that 331 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: could he could give you four a minimum, like four 332 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: really good years. How do you tell him no? When 333 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: he says, how the heck do you am? I not 334 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: getting what those guys are making? 335 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? How do you tell him no? And how does 336 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: he not look around and be like, are you crazy? 337 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: If you're going to go and stay behind in the 338 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: arms race when you have a veteran quarterback who knows 339 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: how to play, who has succeeded in your system, Yeah, 340 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: good luck with that. 341 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: Man. It's such as like. 342 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I feel for Gino when it 343 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: comes to the money, because I'm trying to figure out, like, man, 344 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: would I go above fifty? 345 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: But that's kind of one of the number is it's 346 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: to quarter rate. You have to I got lost their mind. 347 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: I brought it up. 348 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: People lost their minds because I said. My point was, Hey, 349 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: if Seattle's not going to give it to him, I 350 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: know there's probably a few teams that will. It only 351 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: takes one. But I said, you think that, like, I mean, 352 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: I know, and he's almost playing better right now. But 353 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: you look at like were some of these teams are 354 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: the Raiders. You look at the care line of Panthers 355 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: like this dude two years ago was a pro bowler, right. 356 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: That was the year he goes complete seventy percent of 357 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: his passes for forty two hundred and thirty and eleven. 358 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: Last year comes back down a little bit, sixty five percent, 359 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: thirty six hundred yards twenty and nine. But this year 360 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: he's completing seventy two percent of his passes. He's got 361 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: eleven hundred yards, he's got the four touchdowns to four picks. 362 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: But if you watched him and seeing what he's done 363 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: this year, it's not there's nothing fluky about it. And 364 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: they're a fun offense to watch, and I just I 365 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: don't know, I would like to be Gino Smith's agent. 366 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: And the other thing with him is, this is not 367 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: like he didn't come in with bona fides like this 368 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: guy was. This isn't like some overachiever like Johnny, you know, 369 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: Johnny Hustle here like this guy. He was the best 370 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: quarterback in that draft. 371 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: I know that. 372 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: I think EJ. Manual ended up going ahead of him, 373 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: but he was a prolific college player who entered in 374 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: the league and it was in bad situations. And now 375 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: on the other side of thirty, he's found the right 376 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: spot and he's been excellent. 377 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: It's not a fluke. No, it's not a fluke. 378 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: And I just remember going and watching play texts that 379 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: front of the year and he just absolutely tortu Oh yeah, 380 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: I saw. 381 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: Him in the pin strike. 382 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: Just so many guys, and I think about so many players, 383 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Tevon Austin and Daman Bailey and just how good those 384 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Virginia teams were and they could bust the clock. 385 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: I'll be You're right. 386 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Gene Smith is putting together a strong little case to 387 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: get paid paid, and he is going to do it 388 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: because the one thing that we know he ain't gonna 389 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: be without his money. 390 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: He's done it. 391 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: He's played a nice guy role for a long time. 392 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna go and make sure he gets a fat 393 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: contract this time. 394 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna give you four more stats and 395 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna let you pick one that you think 396 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: is the most surprising, impressive, whatever tickles your fancy here, 397 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: Jordan Mason is second in the league in rushing yards 398 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: for the forty nine Ers, Nico Collins leads the league 399 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: in receiving yards, Kyle van noy is second in the 400 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: league in sacks, and Xavier mckinnie's leading the league and picks. 401 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: So your dealer's choice on that what what? What stands 402 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: out to you? 403 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: There's so many Jordan Morgan and the San Francisco forty 404 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: nine ers. That stands out because as much as I 405 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: love CMC, there's something systematic about the way that run 406 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: the game operates that a lot of people have success 407 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. 408 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: Not non notable free agents, like guys that are just 409 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: unherded Orlandis Gary. 410 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: Is that where you're hitting me with me? 411 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a. 412 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: Lot of production comes out of that system. So that 413 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: stands out. And I'll say this, David Kinning getting four 414 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: interceptions in four games man, don't change what you're doing. 415 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: If you need to keep the same socks on, wear 416 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: the same socks because he's living right. 417 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll just add to that, Nico Collins has 418 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: been exceptional. And then Kyle Vanoy, quickly watching his sacks, 419 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, what's Baltimore. Those sim pressures they're gonna 420 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: be He's gonna get some clean runters. There's a bunch 421 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: of his sacks. 422 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: He's got six. 423 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: I want to say four of them is just a 424 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: pure four man rush of him just winning like beating guys, 425 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: winning with an inside spind, winning with a swipe, winning 426 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: with a dip like these are legit rushes. Kyle van 427 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: always turned himself into a really really really good player 428 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: who matches perfectly with what they're doing. But this is 429 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: not some gift that he's been given by the scheme 430 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: of the Baltimore Ravens. He's winning one on one. 431 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is winning one on one and you did 432 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: get him. You have to give him enough credit for 433 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: doing that. And I think you also have to give 434 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: the other guy's credit when they deserve in terms of 435 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: like whatever it is they're doing to make sure that 436 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: the team is rolling. 437 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: This I love these little breakdowns. 438 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: I love having these conversations because we get a chance 439 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: to spotlight so many players that are doing well that 440 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: people haven't paid attention to. 441 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: Me no doubt, Well that's going to do it for 442 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: us today. I hope you guys have a fantastic weekend 443 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 3: of football. Again, a reminder, we've got the Jets and 444 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: the Vikings on NFL Network and NFL Plus. That's nine 445 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: to thirty a m. Eastern on Sunday morning, So a 446 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: little football with your coffee there as the Jets and 447 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: the Vikings they square off in London, so we be 448 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: going to look out for that. Appreciate you see next 449 00:19:52,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: time right here on with the sticks. 450 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: Etta