WEBVTT - Loyalty Freak Music

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, is getting to be a pretty busy time

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<v Speaker 1>for the producers of this show. We still have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great episodes to share, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>slow down our publishing schedule for the year, airing a

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<v Speaker 1>new episode of Ephemeral the first Monday of each month,

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<v Speaker 1>so the next episode will be July four, then August one,

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<v Speaker 1>and so on. As always, thanks for listening. Ephemeral is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of I Heeart three D idea for Folxposure.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen with that phone. Today's guest is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most prolific artists I've ever met. I'm subject to boredom.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bord a lot, and I don't leave it well.

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<v Speaker 1>To avoid this boredom, I produce music. My name is Oz.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a French producer of free music with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of nicknames, a lot of different projects. If you've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to Ephemeral for a while, you've heard a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Roses work. Usually I credit the artist one place here

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<v Speaker 1>and site the website loyalty freak music dot com, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little misleading. In the last eleven years or so,

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<v Speaker 1>Rose has released over two hundred albums under the guise

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<v Speaker 1>of almost twenty different pseudonyms. Why so many aliases. It's weird,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a lot of good ideas of bond name.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you are at a party with friends, you are

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<v Speaker 1>super drunk, and like you have that must be the

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<v Speaker 1>new name of your band. I'm the person who takes

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<v Speaker 1>this as a true thing, Like you tell me this

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<v Speaker 1>is your new band name. Okay, I'll do the album tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do a lot of stuff, many many things.

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<v Speaker 1>I love recording music and I produced stuff fast, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had the feelings that I needed to create a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of nicknames because I wanted to separate a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my music. My first one was Alphadre. My first

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<v Speaker 1>st album was called La dictator The Boredom Dictatorship. After

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<v Speaker 1>that I took the nickname of Montplasy to release like

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<v Speaker 1>a t album something like that. And after that I

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<v Speaker 1>embraised the name of Jose Aserti. It's like my name

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet right now. But I have also Comico

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<v Speaker 1>certain purious, said Don Frederic Clardon, come Jan anonymous for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty then splore his Lava a tape full of mistakest

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<v Speaker 1>Cikla Woman. And there's maybe a few others besides the

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<v Speaker 1>Sheer amount and variety of Roses music. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>you should know about their project is that almost everything

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<v Speaker 1>rosemakes has been released for free without restrictions. The majority

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<v Speaker 1>of this music is available to everyone to adapt, remix,

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<v Speaker 1>and we use howeveryone wants. With such a staggering output,

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<v Speaker 1>you might wonder where Rose caught the musical bog that

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<v Speaker 1>would develop into this obsession. I feel like music was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of my scene. When I discover Dirty Album from

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<v Speaker 1>Sonic Hues and Lasting Stock from Talk Talk, I had

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<v Speaker 1>like really crazy moment with Affics Twin come to d

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<v Speaker 1>D e P And the Greatest Hit from Placebo. There

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<v Speaker 1>were a moment where I was like, okay, music is

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<v Speaker 1>haunting me. When I found the website radio blog dot Club,

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<v Speaker 1>there was users creating playlist with a lot of not

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<v Speaker 1>really legal music at this moment, but there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a laylists just blowing my mind with Jane Doe from

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<v Speaker 1>Converge like a really harsh metal core song. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to something so violent at this moment. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, something like this exists. And I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>my first moment of noise music with a remix of

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<v Speaker 1>Mogway Fast Saton by my Blude Valentine. It was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the stuff I want to live for creating music.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in high school. I was seventeen learning to

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<v Speaker 1>play drum for a band with my friends. I took

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<v Speaker 1>a guitar and tried to improvise with another friend, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the moment I knew guitar was the instrument

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to work on, and improvisation was I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that for the rest of my borrowing days.

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<v Speaker 1>What instruments have you picked up since then? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I see a bunch of instruments behind you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know your music is very collectic intranstence mutation. Right here,

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<v Speaker 1>you have several types of guitar, fretless, bass, tenor saxophone.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to play guitar, but I play bassed

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<v Speaker 1>like a guitarist play bass, and I play saxophone like

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<v Speaker 1>a guitarist play saxophone. I have like a keyboard, toy

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<v Speaker 1>keyboards too. I've done a lot of music with this

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<v Speaker 1>keyboard right here. I've solder output check so I can

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<v Speaker 1>put ethics change with it, and it's like tasty. I

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<v Speaker 1>have like little percussions, a lot of flutes, recorder with

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<v Speaker 1>the big. I have a mixed table to do ash

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<v Speaker 1>noise and stuff like that, a lot of efex petals.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all my gear and I record everything on

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<v Speaker 1>a little table in the corner of my room. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>is done here between pokemon figurines and dust. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not really a good studio to record, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the time on the money to wait for a

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<v Speaker 1>real studio to work on my music. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to create stuff. The first time I recorded with the

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<v Speaker 1>mic of the laptop, we like to press the record

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<v Speaker 1>button and have no idea what to play, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was awful but so fun. I was like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can do other stuff. I had a new electric

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<v Speaker 1>guitar to a multi expertal I vote a fast track

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<v Speaker 1>Pro emodio fast track Pro, and I learned how to

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<v Speaker 1>use it. I think the first album I recorded it

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<v Speaker 1>in a month. I was really obsessed by this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't understand what I was doing. To mix

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<v Speaker 1>music is a job. You need to learn everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>there is a science behind all this stuff, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>how to improvise this. There is a huge gap between

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<v Speaker 1>my first album and the last one in terms of mixing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that it's not the same person doing this music.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like urge to produce this stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to waste my time on the same idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the end, I need to produce more stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and be confronted to more music and more mixing, and

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<v Speaker 1>with multiple confrontation, I will learn more than putting three

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<v Speaker 1>or four more hours on the past music. We'll dive

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<v Speaker 1>deeper into this body of work after the break. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some aliases, and I'll apologize again that

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<v Speaker 1>I will probably butcher every name. No problem, it's most

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<v Speaker 1>stylish when you say it with your accent. Outside today

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<v Speaker 1>album Alfredrai. In the first album, it's chaotic as he

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<v Speaker 1>The first tune is strict distorted over driven guitar playing

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<v Speaker 1>our pages. The second one is like a folk song.

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<v Speaker 1>The third one is like an ambient song. The fourth

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<v Speaker 1>one is the Battle Team, the fifth is the funk song.

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<v Speaker 1>After that there is a cheap hip hop instrumental, and

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<v Speaker 1>another chipipop instrumental and a folk song. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff. There is like one link. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>bad recording and the guitar no real artistic direction. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about this a lot, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>good to have albums with so many type of music.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not user friendly music. It's hard to use this

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<v Speaker 1>music to reuse and remix years past. Um. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a role playing game for UM, writing stories and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with people, and I was like, Okay, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>do a soundtrack of this forum because I love the place.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was the first album from Comic Wo. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for Adventure Colko twenty four albums. I use this

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<v Speaker 1>alias for the soundtrack and I continue to use because

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like it was another direction, another way to

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<v Speaker 1>produce music. It was more about imagining a place soundtrack

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<v Speaker 1>for a video game, tabletop or PG. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Comic Wo is for music you can use. Obviously. The

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<v Speaker 1>five first album of Comic Who is for one unique universe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's parodic music of role playing game situation with acoustic

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<v Speaker 1>instruments and there is like a loofy vibe on the recording.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, it's the next album of Comic Who. It's yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ultraped person. After that it's like for a video game,

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<v Speaker 1>a wacky Mega Man like video game where you destroy

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<v Speaker 1>capitalist standfascist with stones and slink shot. And after that,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done the Girl with the Baseball Bat. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>so many so bad, they're so good type of movies

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<v Speaker 1>like The Room or Samurai Cup. Okay, let's do a

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<v Speaker 1>soundtrack with that in mind. After that, I've done the

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<v Speaker 1>first Incredible Adventures volume, inspired by my plushes like Puppies.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible Adventures. It's like a little plush of a little dog.

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<v Speaker 1>It was my inspiration to do a seventy tracks in

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks. I think I was unemployed at this moment

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a lot of free time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was super inspired. Let's go do ten tracks a day.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, I have the Captain Gluglue Incredible Week soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an actual game that exists. There is Alie Saw

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<v Speaker 1>Some Dance Adventure. It's not incredible, but it's at least awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>There is the Animal Summer Music Camp, a tape is

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<v Speaker 1>never forgotten. It's like the music I've done for a

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<v Speaker 1>video game that doesn't exist. The Adventure Goes On Volume

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<v Speaker 1>one and two. And The Fuzzy Trip in Drama exan

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<v Speaker 1>volume completely made with old time recordings and public domain

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<v Speaker 1>recordings Cluzy albums one Pleasy. It was more a de

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<v Speaker 1>facto name for a lot of type of project, guitar improvisations,

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<v Speaker 1>rock music, industrial songs, shoegaze songs, live music, soundtracks for

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<v Speaker 1>real games, soundtrack for movies. So yeah, at some point

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<v Speaker 1>I use it for a lot of stuff. Certain Furious

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen albums. Soft and Furious is born from the acquisition

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<v Speaker 1>of a Cold Cross synth keyboard. I had this keyboard

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<v Speaker 1>and I was, oh, nice, I can do like form

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<v Speaker 1>of synth wave or electronic music. The first album were

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<v Speaker 1>created with this keyboard, not the drums, but all the

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<v Speaker 1>other sounds. At this moment, I was really questioning my

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<v Speaker 1>gender identity. I'm a gender fred person, and this music

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<v Speaker 1>expressed it. I see my gender like a notion. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't really say what gender I was yesterday and what

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<v Speaker 1>I would be tomorrow. My identity is not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in front of those questions and it d

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot to understand what I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>in these periods. I was like dopting of myself and

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<v Speaker 1>not in a good place. The stuff I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do is dive in in sound, and that was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Soft and Furious is what I see for my gender.

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<v Speaker 1>The expression of this need to be in a notion

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<v Speaker 1>of sound, but it's mostly like am Beyond and sent

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<v Speaker 1>wave like music, but not aggressive cent wave. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>like soft than curious. Froteen happens both false really really

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<v Speaker 1>weird stuff. The first stuff I produced with this nickname

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<v Speaker 1>is dog Wave super called electro Technoe with dog screaming,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went, okay, the mother donor will be weird

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and mostly noisy stuff, and I don't like dog

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<v Speaker 1>wave too, and cut wave. After that, I'm Pigeon Wave. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the next one will be print a Wave. Already a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people told me this was like a nightmarish ivy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, I will do that. Peepout apples. Frederic

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<v Speaker 1>Clardon is a playworld with Frederic lrdon socialist French economists

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<v Speaker 1>and Lardon. It's bacon. It's for French city song I've

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<v Speaker 1>done with my friend La held me obviously play well

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<v Speaker 1>with low a Palmer from Twin Peaks. We gathered around

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<v Speaker 1>a keyboard and just press records and play stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really bad music, but it's super fun. The first time

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick Clardon appeared is was for a website called Lomasument

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<v Speaker 1>The Weekly Maratton. You have to produce one song. Every

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<v Speaker 1>week for a period of time. You have to have

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<v Speaker 1>like a balance between makes something quick and make something good.

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<v Speaker 1>Also you have to make a banger. I've done an

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<v Speaker 1>album called music Music to make People Leave Your Place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of really really hard and allowed noises.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't recommend to listen to it, but it exists

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<v Speaker 1>if you need to make people leave your place. Contrast

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<v Speaker 1>sad apples. Rosin is a French politician and Come Jospine

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<v Speaker 1>is like a really weird joke I can't explain even

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<v Speaker 1>in French. It's a project I've done with my friend

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<v Speaker 1>Laura palm Me also, but it's a band. Come Jospin

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<v Speaker 1>is the band. The first album is called fair Music.

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<v Speaker 1>You can translate it do the music and the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing we've done is a cover of the Shags the

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<v Speaker 1>song Mapile Foot Foot. The next album from comp is

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<v Speaker 1>Champon Noel So Sing Christmas and it's a collection of

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<v Speaker 1>my friend and I singing French Christmas song with a

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<v Speaker 1>really really bad vibe like you lost everything but you

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<v Speaker 1>have a job and it's too sing Christmas song. There

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<v Speaker 1>is another one called Low Region. I have a guitar

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<v Speaker 1>with big Bill vibrato and I play like Stairwards Eaven

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<v Speaker 1>on the guitar and my friend plays the vibratto. So

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<v Speaker 1>I played the music and she just turned the cord

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<v Speaker 1>whenever she wants, and it's horrible. I love those bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so full of energy, but it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>use as a free music analyst for twenty I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you are familiar with trump wave, so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do Macron wave. The problem is that trump wave is

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<v Speaker 1>music made to create propaganda around Trump, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want it to do that. With mac Own. The motto

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<v Speaker 1>of Macron was the startup Nation. When it became president,

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<v Speaker 1>he ted to change France into a startup nation. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, okay, this dude is the spokesperson of

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<v Speaker 1>the new wave of capitalists. I wanted to use the

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<v Speaker 1>esthetic of the so called capitalist music, the one used

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<v Speaker 1>in branded industries. It's a music you will remix for

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<v Speaker 1>a video presentation, a power point, but you will not

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<v Speaker 1>listen to it as music. You don't go to shutter

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<v Speaker 1>Stock Music to listen to the playlist, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>an issue with them. I wanted to take this music

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<v Speaker 1>and to rebrand it, to remix it, to make it

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<v Speaker 1>music again. In particularly the first Anonymous for twenty Upstart

0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Nation was a favorite of one when we began this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all over the ephemeral trailer, including the track You're

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing Now. And I've done another album called Startup Kids,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a remix of the demo of this keyboard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh sorry, I don't want you to be d m

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<v Speaker 1>C eight for visually you said do. It's a nickname

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<v Speaker 1>I use for my French songs about being queer. If

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<v Speaker 1>Anonymous for twenties like a soft and round over driven music,

0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this one is like poetic ash and really really loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I love our stuff. I don't know if you noticed that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do a feedback look into my mixed table on

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<v Speaker 1>the verge of feedback, and I've done a couples of

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<v Speaker 1>gigs of this project. It's always super hard to do

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<v Speaker 1>because I need four or five effects s pedal, the

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<v Speaker 1>mixed table, keyboard, a little drum, and I need to

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<v Speaker 1>like sing and scream. Loyalty Freak Music seventeen albums Loyalty

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<v Speaker 1>Freak Music, The World Player obviously on Loyalty Free Music.

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<v Speaker 1>When I have the idea like okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a library of groovy music of loffy music of

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<v Speaker 1>metal music. I will do like seven or eight try

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<v Speaker 1>of this type of music, and I will release the

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<v Speaker 1>album I didn't know at this time. It will become

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<v Speaker 1>the name of my website, Loyalty Freak music dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess for me, this is a good name brand to have.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one is positive attitude to try to do

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<v Speaker 1>some happy stuff, and it's awfully hard to do positive

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<v Speaker 1>music not sounding like the other positive music existing. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like music to chill and stay awake, low fi

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff, electro music like robot, dance, instrumental R and D,

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>beats to sing or wrap on. I've done Halloween music.

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<v Speaker 1>It was used a lot the podcast You're Wrong About

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<v Speaker 1>use one of the songs in this album. That's fun

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<v Speaker 1>when you listen to something and it's you dance for

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<v Speaker 1>data four albums. Lava is a project I really love

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but don't find a lot of idea to work on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really inspired by a song called Noise Girl

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<v Speaker 1>Discoopatology dance Floy's. Lava was created to try to do

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff like that. It's noise disco, industrial dance music

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and catchy sensible at any teenage riot both as a

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<v Speaker 1>teen albums was a theft at first, was a gay

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 1>album about feelings. That's why I've written in the description

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<v Speaker 1>of the album it's mostly true. At first. It's French

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<v Speaker 1>song with a soft approach to rock music. I really

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea of using low quality software to record

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<v Speaker 1>music computer folk music. Rose Arty was born with this id.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mostly stuff I have the urge to create and

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a nickname in mind. A tape of mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Two albums, A tape full of mistakes. It's a band

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<v Speaker 1>with mon Plasier and the Ataway family plot. We sent

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<v Speaker 1>to each other piece of music and we remixed it,

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<v Speaker 1>put some more music into it and recreate an album.

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<v Speaker 1>It's avant garde noise music. Three albums, Wandering Dog, you

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<v Speaker 1>can call it. It's more about improvisation with the guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>like what I've done mostly with mont Plasier Press Records

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<v Speaker 1>and try something Clad Woman three albums CCLA Woman is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do some experimentations written by the Fluxus movement,

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by Lamontition, Yoko no terr Tony, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was in this a roach. Okay, I got

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<v Speaker 1>at least two that you didn't say, oh what this

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<v Speaker 1>one's got about you? Because this seems like you to

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<v Speaker 1>quill a moon rise? Oh yes, I forgot to kill

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<v Speaker 1>a moon right, killing the nice one album. I have

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<v Speaker 1>this fake music genre called tropical good. This is fortunes

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<v Speaker 1>I've done with the keyboard of my rand mother, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I didn't found a better album titles than

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<v Speaker 1>the one. I don't particular moon rise, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>hate myself and I want to tie and die. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is your either, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was you Standifer, Yes, this is me too. For albums.

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<v Speaker 1>The first album is for the FOLM Challenge, the February

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<v Speaker 1>album writing months. While you have to liquored fourteen track

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<v Speaker 1>in one month, my challenge is to do it in

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<v Speaker 1>one day. But still I her became bound after that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's small like Beastie Boys ash industrial like music.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one is domind and tomorrow is Canceled. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like rhythm box with guitar, bass and vocals with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of feedback loops. An artist, anti capitalist, anti fascist

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<v Speaker 1>songs recorded in a studio. The only other one that

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<v Speaker 1>I've got on here that you didn't say. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna better say that Captain Glues glue Glow and Captain

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Captain glue Glue is usually cla Maybe Captain Glue Creux

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a socially clavier one album. So this is Captain glu

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<v Speaker 1>Glue the Little Alpaca. There are like a playlist of

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<v Speaker 1>videos of Captain glue Glue playing the keyboard. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just for fun. I don't think Captain Blue Blue will

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<v Speaker 1>play another album because the plush was like really really

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<v Speaker 1>sparkly and beautiful at the moment where I recorded the videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Now time passed by Captain Glue is grayer or now

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<v Speaker 1>how do you regiment your music production, your creativity? What's

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>your regiment like to get all this stuff done? Big

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<v Speaker 1>part of my discography was made during the PAIRD I

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<v Speaker 1>was unemployed like for two years. Now I have a

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<v Speaker 1>day job at the administration of a music school in

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<v Speaker 1>the evening, so I use the morning mostly to do

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<v Speaker 1>my music. I'm not a night bird. I was, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not now. I'm are a morning buld. I love morning.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do everything in the morning. Do you record

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<v Speaker 1>like every day? When I was un employed, I recorded

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Now I record like one or two times

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<v Speaker 1>a week. I'm so stressed by my day job and

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<v Speaker 1>the situation globally that I didn't add the space in

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<v Speaker 1>my head to think about music, to create a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of music. But also, this last ten years, I've produced

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<v Speaker 1>more than two Android album I'm a bit tired. How

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<v Speaker 1>much did you do in this last two years? A

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one album in this last two years. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like you had too much of a creative block.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry your jay job is not like no stress

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<v Speaker 1>and the pandemic, but it does so. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of artists that are working hard, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anybody that's producing work like you. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I get I get where you say that too. And yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying in a nutshell, don't be so hard on yourself. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a problem. I know this is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a producing problem. Shouto. I wouldn't call it

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. I would call it a gift. You've tapped

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<v Speaker 1>into something in yourself that a lot of people dream of.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of times when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of something like that, like you apparently have

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<v Speaker 1>been for these ten years or whatever, and probably longer,

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of hard to see the forest for the trees.

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<v Speaker 1>If if that expression translates, it can be hard to

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate when you're inside out of it. But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the muse, right, I mean, that's you've got. You've

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>got the mused by the collar. So whatever you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>just like, don't mess it up, just you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it will keep changing and maybe it make less albums,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe make one. You know, I'm sure it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you have no shortage of ideas, but it is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of baffling amount of creativity located in an individual. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's maybe part of why you have to

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<v Speaker 1>split into so many personalities. Yes, I need to have

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<v Speaker 1>some place where I can fit these ideas and processed

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<v Speaker 1>it because there's so many a way to produce music,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel that I have a producing issue because

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm not producing, I'm hating myself. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I have internalized capitalist pressure in me and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. Some people struggled to just release

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<v Speaker 1>one song because they are like in a perfectionist way,

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't care myself. I don't care to make the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect things. I just want to put it out of

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<v Speaker 1>my head and just okay, the idea is here, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't clip. Okay, let's release it if I wanted to clip.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no problem that the last two years I

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<v Speaker 1>struggled to find this producing muse. I'm still having like

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<v Speaker 1>a more productive way to work and other people. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I've lost the momentum. I've lost the flu.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I gotta be in your own head that

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<v Speaker 1>just like the evidence does not suggest that. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to be unsympathetic. But that's that's a hard

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>pill to swallow. Or maybe it's not the momentum, but

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I've lost something this last two years. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I produced less album this last year. Also, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not as happy as before with my music. I'm less

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>in peace. But it's like my music as its own quality.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I think there is like good albums, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even Bee. I'm too hard on myself and this is

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<v Speaker 1>just the problem. A lot of the time, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm doing. I'm on the computer and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm singing, and after that I'm tall Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this will be the note. I is that trade that

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? Like singing out like the parts of song. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>This is a really good way to improvise stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>have like tons of memo on my cell phone and

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<v Speaker 1>of me singing between the line of cars. This is

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<v Speaker 1>super how to listen. See, I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us have that, myself included. The difference is the

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<v Speaker 1>huge hay here and then you you so so much

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<v Speaker 1>of it gets through that it becomes a thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>and then not even that you just make it, but

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<v Speaker 1>that you actually put it out there and that you

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get it into people's ears and hands

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and you let people do things with that, which I

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you more about two. But like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference. Yeah, it's differing difference. I mean those

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>things are almost opposite, right. And you know, when at

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<v Speaker 1>first I've produced like an album a year, it's bet

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<v Speaker 1>up with time. At some point a friend gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge to produce like four Try in the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first form February album writing months where

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<v Speaker 1>I've recorded the album Busy So Noa by mon Plasia

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<v Speaker 1>and I recorded this album in one day, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight hour. And after that I kept this way

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<v Speaker 1>of producing music because I was at this period unemployed

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and I had a lot of instruments and space to

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<v Speaker 1>create music. It became my routine after that. I used

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Ripper to record my music, and it's like an extension

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<v Speaker 1>of me. I finished a track, I rendered it, and

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<v Speaker 1>after that I create a new project. Maybe I go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom or something. Oh, I take a break

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>because my fingers are like a bit hurt because I've

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>played like five hours of guitar. But after that, I

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<v Speaker 1>just continue, even though I have no idea what I'm

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>going to do. I will finish the day with something.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of when you start earning a project, do

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<v Speaker 1>you usually start with a a genre utility in mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you sort of work in assignment? After the fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm more copy cards than anything. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to copy things most of the time. If I found

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<v Speaker 1>something I really like, I tried to do it myself.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>At some point, I was really into a male banana

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese artcore band, and I wanted to do art cores,

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<v Speaker 1>so I tried to do a noisy artcore stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like in my early work. After that, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>fluxus period where I tried to reproduce the vibe of

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<v Speaker 1>the eternal theater of music. Are there any genres that

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<v Speaker 1>you have in mind that you would like to work in?

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<v Speaker 1>Genres or utilities uses that you haven't yet that you

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<v Speaker 1>that are like on your wish list? The printer wave

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do as a soundtrack of video games.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to work on this type of utilitarian music.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm doing some live on Twitch where I

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<v Speaker 1>compose music live for games that doesn't exist. But now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more into thinking about not working on producing music,

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<v Speaker 1>but writing about music and mostly about philosophy of music.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can talk about it more later because this

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<v Speaker 1>can be a big subject. So working in video games, film,

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<v Speaker 1>video stuff like that, do you do a fair amount

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<v Speaker 1>of composing specifically for other people's projects. Yes. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and I want to do it more.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done couples of movie projects. The biggest one I've

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<v Speaker 1>done is American Dreams. I really is the soundtrack. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen. After that, I had a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>commissions for student projects. I had some soundtrack to do

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<v Speaker 1>for games. It's super fun to do. I really like

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<v Speaker 1>working on real game It's not the same, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine by myself all the situations you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be prepared and to understand how it works video game

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<v Speaker 1>and gint and it's like super interesting and give a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of opportunities with all this music. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>give so much bet away from free? Because I can First,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a better world with a lot of public

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<v Speaker 1>domain stuff, and I want to contribute. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like the only reason the biggest argument for me to

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<v Speaker 1>put music into creative comments and for free is because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really bad at communicating with people and advertise my music.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to do this and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this because I see what happens when people

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<v Speaker 1>do it most of the time. I don't like when

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<v Speaker 1>labels are bands are like really out publicly like yeah

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<v Speaker 1>this new album album. I'm just I don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Maybe people like to do it, but me

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it. But if I can put my

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<v Speaker 1>music like remixable for everyone and share double and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, maybe people will do this for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Freeing the music allows you to have access

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<v Speaker 1>to spaces where people want music, like from the archive

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<v Speaker 1>or jamindo. People here sometimes for listening to the music

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<v Speaker 1>because there is like a ton of excellent music and

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<v Speaker 1>from music Archaive, But a lot of people come because

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<v Speaker 1>they work music for a placeholder for video games, movies,

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<v Speaker 1>podcast This is the place to be if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have people wanting to listen to you. The way

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about it, it was like, Okay, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to share my music with people. I don't mind having

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<v Speaker 1>remixes of my music. It's like fun. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>to see when and where people can use my music.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be the closest to the public domain

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<v Speaker 1>I can be, so you can use my music in

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<v Speaker 1>a non commercial way and in a commercial way too,

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<v Speaker 1>without attribution. Now I appear in all the layers of

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<v Speaker 1>the search engine in free music. You can't miss me

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm everywhere. What do you What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about commercial use of your work? No problem with that.

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<v Speaker 1>People need music and want to commercialize their project. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we live in a capitalist society. We need to make money.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't mind this use of my music. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can send me ten books at some point, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind too. But I don't mind if you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like people using my music because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they love it and I'm happy. What's your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with this music? Once you put it out there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a bit egotistick. I like to listen to my music,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly because the music I created the music I want

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to. Some albums I prefer another. But most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time I listened to an album I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to and was thinking, Okay, this is not my

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<v Speaker 1>best day and the album is good. I'm not crying

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<v Speaker 1>over it, or I'm not like submerged by emotion, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, you did the best you could at

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<v Speaker 1>this moment, and I hear it. Sometimes I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>my music and I'm not thinking that it's my music.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot, so I don't remember everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is why I have so many nicknames too.

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<v Speaker 1>When I listened to these old albums, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a part of me, but now it's not mine anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Ephemeral was written and assembled by Alex Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>with producers Max Williams and Trevor Young, and additional editing

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<v Speaker 1>from Jesse Funk. Special thanks to Andy Reese for pronouncing

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<v Speaker 1>all those artists names for me. The work of Roses

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<v Speaker 1>are two and all their various pseudonyms can be found

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<v Speaker 1>at loyalty freak news dot com, including information about reusing

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<v Speaker 1>this music in your own projects or commissioning Rose for

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<v Speaker 1>original works. Our next episode will be out July four.

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