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Speaker 1: It's a tough sports not for everybody.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be a little sick to love this game,

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Speaker 2: and we got some sickos. Welcome to NFL Daily, where

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Speaker 2: we're going to see if Ali Connolly is a tough grader.

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Speaker 2: Today we are going through each NFC TV like we

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Speaker 2: thus far. Ali, how are you as a student in Manchester? Oh?

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Speaker 1: As a student? Was probably best not to go into

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Speaker 1: the track record of studentness. I consider myself a very

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Speaker 1: fag grade. I like to give people to benefit the doubt.

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Speaker 1: I like to try and see the vision. I like

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Speaker 1: to grade on how they view themselves more so than

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Speaker 1: just me crushing them for what I would have done instead.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's it's wide open. You can give

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Speaker 2: multiple grades if you really want. And look, you you

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Speaker 2: have been a professional grader in the past scouting these

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Speaker 2: NFL prospects, but this is more of a big picture look.

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Speaker 2: And this has been a big, a big build up

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Speaker 2: to this. Ali's done a lot of shows for NFL Daily.

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Speaker 2: It's all leading to this. He sent me a document

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Speaker 2: with four thousand words in it preparing for this show.

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Speaker 2: So let's go deep on each one of these teams.

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Speaker 2: We have the Cowboys and the NFC East. We're going

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Speaker 2: to start with them. Each team, I will just introduce

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Speaker 2: what they've done this offseason. Then we'll kick it around

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Speaker 2: and then we'll give some grades. So probably the biggest

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Speaker 2: move they made was they sent a fourth round pick

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Speaker 2: for Rashwan Gary. News came out after the fact that

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Speaker 2: he accepted a pretty big pay cut over the last

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Speaker 2: two years of his contract, taking ten million dollars less

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Speaker 2: thirty two million dollars over the next two years. For

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Speaker 2: was making even more money than that. They got a

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Speaker 2: still hanging out there. They gave Brandon Aubrey They're great kicker,

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Speaker 2: a second round tender, which means he is due five

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Speaker 2: point seven million dollars. Unless someone wants to try to

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Speaker 2: sign them away for a second round pick, that's probably

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Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Jalen Thompson was their biggest really their

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Speaker 2: only big free agent signing. They gave the former Cardinals

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Speaker 2: thirty three million dollar contract, So many of the free

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Speaker 2: agency contracts looked exactly like that. This offseason. They brought

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Speaker 2: back Sam Williams. They gave PJ. Lock, a safety with

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Speaker 2: the Broncos, a small deal for five million. Sam Howells

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Speaker 2: on this team, were you aware of that? And there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of free agents that they had from their

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Speaker 2: you know, Jenevian Clowney, Kenneth Murray, Donovan Wilson, Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Not sure many of those guys are coming back, but

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Speaker 2: So I think that informs maybe if you're expecting any

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Speaker 2: first thing that stands out to you from the Cowboys offseason.

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Speaker 1: It's what stands out to me is they're still feeling

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Speaker 1: the pain of the Micah Parsons deal. I know it

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Speaker 1: upset Stallas fans to hear that right off the top,

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Speaker 1: but having to let go of Odigizu at that price

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Speaker 1: team building. That skill set, speed off the ball in

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Speaker 1: Getting those guys as always the best players in the

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Speaker 1: So I really liked overhaul on the secondary. I like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my grade is not going to be that high

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Speaker 2: because Rashon Gary is just a clearly declining player that

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Speaker 2: Clark's not going to get you anything in a trade,

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Speaker 1: It felt like everything was around this idea, we can't

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Speaker 1: pass us juice? I get quinnin if as a Rocky

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Speaker 2: I saw a fascinating clip from Bob sterm who's covered

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Speaker 2: And it's like those don't exist in free agency. You

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Speaker 2: real free agent like that one. Are you looking forward

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Speaker 2: to the Sam Howell Joe Milton preseason game? What about it?

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Speaker 1: No? No, No, I'm not I will be out those evenings.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know how yes, I accept

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Speaker 1: all that about the family business. And the speech in Lanman,

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Speaker 1: Where's where's the family value in trading a really good

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Speaker 2: Right? And uh, I don't know. It's about yes science,

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Speaker 2: sign the guys quickly. Let's give them a grade. I'll

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Speaker 1: I'll give them a C because I do like the

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Speaker 2: We got to put a number on it. I will

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Speaker 2: go seventy six as well. Okay, this is out of

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Speaker 2: one hundred. Yes, yes, that's a C.

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Speaker 2: Anybody see is seventy three to seventy seven at least?

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Speaker 2: In Wilbraham, Massachusetts, we're keeping track of this. Eric was like,

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Speaker 2: this show is going to go faster, not at this base.

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Speaker 2: Let's go with the Giants. They signed Calvin Austen, a

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Speaker 2: move we haven't mentioned. Haven't heard the contract terms, which

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Speaker 2: usually means it's not much money. But the former Steelers receiver,

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Speaker 2: they have a Darnell Mooney contract that is up to

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Speaker 2: on those. I suspect they're both quite low. They also

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Speaker 2: re signed Isaiah Hodgkins Hodgens and Gunner Olshewski and said

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Speaker 2: That was a lot. They re signed Jermaine Iluminor for

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Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars garanteed three years thirty nine million.

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Speaker 2: They brought back Evan Neil, their former top ten pick,

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Speaker 2: which was surprising. They lost four players to the Titans,

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Speaker 2: and Brian Dable, Daniel Bellinger, Cordell Flatt, Austin Schlottman, Wandel Robinson.

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Speaker 2: They cut Bobby Okaike and then they did make some

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Speaker 2: good signings. Isaiah likely got forty million dollars over three

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Speaker 2: Jason Sanders is their new kicker. I like that after

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Speaker 2: watching Graham Gano play hurt way too often. And then

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Speaker 2: they signed Tremaine Edmunds twenty three million dollars guaranteed way

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Speaker 2: more money than I expected for him, three for thirty six,

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Speaker 2: only three million dollars guaranteed. After a pretty rough year,

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Speaker 2: probably a one for eight deal. That's a lot there

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Speaker 1: I like the high upside swing on Isaiah Likely. I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of the best for agent deals of

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Speaker 1: the offseason. I do like I'm not a Gregg n

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Speaker 1: you some fan, but at that price for a twenty

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Speaker 1: just go in fluego for one year, I think that's

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Speaker 1: I like that. And then retaining your Maine illuminoil probably

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Speaker 1: that fits well. The bad to me is just I

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Speaker 1: think the linebacking core is still a real problem. It's

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Speaker 1: a linebacker based defense. I don't think Tremaine Edmonds. I

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Speaker 1: have to overpaid to get the guy in. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's a clean scheme fit. I just don't see

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Speaker 1: him the way they clearly value him. So I'm worried

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Speaker 1: about the like cosmetic surgery they've done defensively when it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of my least favorite contracts in

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Speaker 2: and just seem like, why I didn't I didn't get

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Speaker 2: with you, though, I really like the likely deal. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a team that relies on one on one

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Speaker 2: Riquel In for on a one year prove it deal

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Speaker 2: for how they were going to do that didn't cost

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00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,120
Speaker 2: them that much money to bring on and then become

431
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 2: real deal players. And I think that's how some of

432
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 2: these signings could end up looking in a few years.

433
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 2: I also like the Oconquo move. I think Ali Gretti's

434
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 2: gonna be their center for Tyler Biattish was he the

435
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,719
Speaker 2: one who started a couple games late and they extend Tunsel.

436
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 2: I like their Shad White move. I'm kind of in

437
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 2: on the Commander's offseason, like it's not one hundred for

438
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: one hundred, but I think I'm gonna give him an

439
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: A ninety three. Why not we got to give someone

440
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 2: an ah.

441
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: I went B plus because there's a little bit of

442
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: overpaying for the lack of their internal development, having so

443
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: many misfires. Now you got to go pay for it

444
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 1: in frazy and I just really hated the loss of Badish.

445
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 1: That made zero sense to me. They're changing the whole

446
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 1: foundation of their offense to trying to be this undecenter

447
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 1: move based team. So they say he is the one

448
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 1: of the number one picks you would have if you

449
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: were building out a move based under center kind of

450
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: kick and go center type offense, and they just kind

451
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: of jettisoned him from the building for Nick alagready a

452
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: guy I like, but fit more of the Cliff Kingsbury

453
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: style than he fits this one, So that one was

454
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 1: just so puzzling to me from what they've messaged they

455
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: want the offense to look like and that they were

456
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: just throwing cash all over the place, that that was

457
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 1: the guy they decided to be the casualty.

458
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 2: I agree, and I just assumed there were some injury

459
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 2: stuff I didn't know about, because he did have injuries

460
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: late in the year, but then he got quickly signed.

461
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: They do have the most cap space in the league.

462
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: So we taped on Monday the AFC and I said

463
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: the Titans did. Since then, you know, this is a

464
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: movie target. Some of the Titans have gotten entered. The

465
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 2: Commanders now have the most cap space in the entire

466
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 2: league and a ton of guys who are still free agents,

467
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 2: all those old guys from last year like Von Miller

468
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: and Deebo Samuel and Bobby Wagner for instance. They also

469
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 2: had all these low cost deals from Mariota, Treylan Burks,

470
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: Diami Brown. They've just been active. I think they needed

471
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: to be. And so I'm going to lower my score

472
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: to on ninety one. You tucked me down off of

473
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: it a little bit. That's the nfcas Let's take a

474
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 2: quick break and we'll come back. It's going to turn

475
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: into one of my favorite annual exercises. The grades after

476
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: free agency. Back on NFL Daily, we are rolling through

477
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: the NFC free agency grades with the Chicago Bears and

478
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 2: the NFC North up Neck. Really the highlights. The big

479
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: news is how their secondary looks so different. They signed

480
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, the Seahawks safety, for three years, forty million dollars.

481
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: Fun deal, so imagine him with Dennis Allen. But they

482
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: let Kevin Bayer, Jawon Brisker, Nayshn Wright, Chauncey Gardner, Johnson,

483
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: and Jonathan Owens all leave from the secondary, which which

484
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: I found interesting. I don't think they were really in

485
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: on keeping those players. They re signed Braxton Jones at

486
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: left tackle, and they signed Jedrick Wills. This is a

487
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: movie we had mentioned on the show, the former of

488
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: Brown's first round pick that was out of football last

489
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 2: year trying to get healthy. So that's a flyer where

490
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: they need a left tackle early this season or maybe

491
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: the whole season. They traded for Garrett Bradbury after Drew

492
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: Dollman surprisingly retired at center, and other than that, it's

493
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: been quiet. Devin Bush was the biggest other signing at

494
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: linebacker three years, thirty million dollars seat who replaces Tremaine Edmonds,

495
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: Neville Gallimore and Khaliff Raymond Gallimore as a defensive tackle

496
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: Kalif Raymond kind of a fourth receiver return guy. They

497
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: both get around five million dollars. They had a ton

498
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: of players signed with other teams. For what it's whereth

499
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: thirteen different players from their team have signed with other teams,

500
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: which I found interesting. One of the highest, maybe the

501
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 2: highest number in the in the league. And they're out

502
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: of cap space and they're in the middle of the

503
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: pack of cash spent. So I know we've been feeling

504
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: better about Ryan Poles, but I do think that kind

505
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: of points to maybe some of the misdeeds of previous

506
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: years hurt them in this off season.

507
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've thought Ryan Poles is a clown for a while.

508
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: I do have to say I hadn't considered that about

509
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: the cash and the cap. That kind of points to

510
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: the fact that maybe he was clownish throughout the early

511
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: parts of the ten uere. I love this. I thought

512
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: he did a great job. I understand there were some

513
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: cap restrictions, but it wasn't too high on their own

514
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: supply of last season, kind of lying to themselves about

515
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: who they could be going to the next year. I

516
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: just thought it was smart move, smart move, smart move

517
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: all across the board. I thought the Garrett Bradbury deal,

518
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: when Drew Dolman reties on you so suddenly and you

519
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: don't want to make it so you've got to go

520
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: into the draft and there's only really Jake slaw Toho's

521
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: worthy of maybe a first or second round pick, and

522
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: you're kind of booked it. Well, you kind of have

523
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: to get that guy earlier. Just going at Garrett Bradbury

524
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: as a serviceable player who played much better last season

525
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: than he has for much of his career. Just locking

526
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: that down on a really cheap deal, doing it immediately,

527
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: I thought was really sensible work. Getting a second round

528
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: pick for DJ Moore's absolute robbery, unbelievable deal once again

529
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: from Ryan Paul's in the trademarket, and I really do

530
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: like that. For as much as I love the names

531
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: they had in the secondary and I like a lot

532
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: of those players, that it was a pretty clear signal

533
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: that what they did last year with Dennis Allen where

534
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: he could apart from the structure he had with the

535
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: Saints and said we are an all out attack. Let's

536
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: get after it based blitzing defense. All the signings aligned

537
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: with that's who we want to be now. That was

538
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: not a kind of figure it out on the fly,

539
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: break glass emergency our past rush. Thinks I think they

540
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: tapped into something in where the game is at right now.

541
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: Alan has kind of embraced it, and so the signing

542
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: of someone like Kobe Bryant, the signing of Devin Bush

543
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: indicate that that's the style they want to go to.

544
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: But there's a little bit more versatility than they have

545
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: with the previous group. Wherever they want to kind of

546
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: back off and return to how Allen used to play.

547
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Those guys were played in that style too. You really

548
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: need Kyler Gordon to stay healthy.

549
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, the group now still looks good Jalen Johnson,

550
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Tyreek Stevenson, Kobe Bryant, Kyler Gordon, and then I forgot.

551
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: They brought in Cam Lewis, who's a solid player from

552
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: from the Bills, who will be an option at safety.

553
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: You figure they'll add more there. You make me want

554
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: to give them a higher grade. The thing is they

555
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: had no pass rush last year and I know they

556
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: have cap space restrictions, they still have no cap space,

557
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean no pass rush this year, and I get

558
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: what you mean. On Bradbury that was just bad luck

559
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: for Drew Donmends. So I can't punish them in the grades.

560
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: So they did well considering, but you have questions I

561
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: think at left tackle, in a little bit at center

562
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: just because of injuries and retirement there.

563
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: So over all, I agree that the russ is nowhere

564
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: near perfect and they paying for the previous polls misfires.

565
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: But I think it would have been so much worse

566
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: to take what ever cap room they did have and

567
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: tried to get in the sweepstakes for just be to

568
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: be plus shade pass Russia and just say well, that's

569
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: why I'm putting all the cash. I think that would

570
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: have been fooling themselves that they only issue was we

571
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: didn't have enough sizzle in the past rush, and I

572
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: just don't think that's true. I think the team still

573
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: has like it has pretty poor roster construction of multiple spots,

574
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: and so they kind of put the cash around and

575
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: tried to just build a more stable team for multiple seasons.

576
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: And now they've got those second round picks, which is

577
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: right in the meat of the ed rushing market in

578
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: the draft class, and they could maybe dangle one of

579
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: those if they want to to try and get a

580
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: veteran down the line. So I think the move by

581
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: move they've they've played it really well.

582
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: And the DJ Moore trade, as you mentioned, is not

583
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: to be overlooked when when making this grade. And you're right,

584
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: we would have hammered them if they made the Bradley

585
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: Chubb contract or even the Adafioway contract. I don't think

586
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: made sense for this team, even if I'm not gonna

587
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: kill it for the commanders didn't love it. I'll give

588
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: them a eighty six. Not that is that in the

589
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: B plus rowl I mean, do you not have the

590
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: Do we not have the same scoring process in London?

591
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't.

592
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: All I had was the letter grade, so I would

593
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: say I would say a B plus. I I could

594
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: tolk myself into an A for getting out of DJ

595
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: more alone and then getting out of DJ Mole for

596
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: a really valuable asset.

597
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds like you want like an eighty nine

598
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: as close to a minus as possible. So how we

599
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: did it? So the listeners, you know, it's like eighty

600
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: three to eighty seven would have been a bee. Eighty

601
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: to eighty two would be minus eighty eight to I guess,

602
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if B plus is eighty seven or not.

603
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: Eighty eight eighty nine is B plus something like that,

604
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: and then you do that with each grade. Let's keep

605
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: going the Lions. This one's a quick one, nice deal

606
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: for Katee Bays the center from the Panthers. Not too

607
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: much money filled the big need after that, other than

608
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: trading David Montgomery, it's just about a bunch of cheapy moves.

609
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: And I'll just list off some of these players. They

610
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: all are making very little money. Teddy Bridgewater, Isaiah Pacheco,

611
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: Larry Borham is an option at to be like a

612
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: fourth tackle, third tackle, Roger McCreery, who's bounced around now

613
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: at cornerback, Christian Izzian who's okay at a defensive back

614
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: for the Bucks, like Tyler Konklin at safety. They traded

615
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: for Juice Scrugs. I don't even know if he'll make

616
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: the Lions. But those are the types of moves. They've

617
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: been very quiet. They have thirty million dollars in cap space.

618
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: They lost Cleef Framan the to the Bears. I actually

619
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: think that might hurt them a little bit. It was

620
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: a good role player. Dan Skipper retired. They don't have

621
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: a left tackle, they have no edge after Aiden Hutchinson.

622
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: It's really crazy. They're pretty thin right now at linebacker, cornerback, interior,

623
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: offensive line. They have some interesting free agents from their

624
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: own team that are still out there that I'm starting

625
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: to think are gonna come back. But as we stand

626
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: right now, what do you think of what the Lions

627
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: are doing? I love the two editions of Cave Mays

628
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: and Roger McCreary. I really like Roger mccrey. I don't

629
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: know the league agrees with me.

630
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: I thought he had really good flashes in Tennessee, particularly

631
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: as a blitzer, so I like buying low on him.

632
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: A Maze one we talked about going into it. That

633
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: is the ideal scheme fit for Maze. What the Lions

634
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: are looking photos at, big, lumbering, powerful presence middle of

635
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: the line of scrimage. They will hide him and protect

636
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: him in pass pro, and I think he's gonna play

637
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: his best ball the next couple of seasons. I am

638
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: still just puzzled by the lack of juice they have

639
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: all over the field for a team that's trying to

640
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: compete the top end defensively, not bringing AQM back for

641
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: the money he got from the books is really puzzling

642
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: to me. I accept letting Azeloni some of the kind

643
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: of the Alder guys go that once, to me after

644
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: the breakout was just a little bit jarring given that

645
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: they didn't really.

646
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Do it alcohed Muhammad AQM. Yeah, you're expecting the audience

647
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: to get on just as no oh yeah AQM. Yeah.

648
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: To not shop in that market at least so far

649
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: when all those guys are flowing off the board is

650
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: just pretty puzzling to me.

651
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: And I'm waiting to see the money on Muhammad. I

652
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be much. Actually, it's it's

653
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: coming up in a bit. I did. I did look

654
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: it up. Yeah, it's it's very little money. That that

655
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: one was curious because they do have cap space, so

656
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: I hinted at the free agents that are on the

657
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: team that are still out there. They don't have a

658
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: left tackle really, so isn't Taylor Decker just going to

659
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: come back? I think there was some hurt feelings that

660
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: he couldn't agree on negotiation in the end, I'm guessing

661
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: they're offering more than any other team, or he'd probably

662
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: have signed with another team by now. So I think

663
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: they'll look different if Taylor Decker comes back for one

664
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: more season as expected and it's with them. Also, Graham

665
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: Glasgow hasn't been signed. DJ Reader hasn't been signed. Some

666
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: of these guys could come back, and I think they

667
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: kind of need it, because this is the thinnest Lions

668
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: roster since the first year they've been there. It really is.

669
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: It's great at the top, but it's the thinnest, like

670
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: in terms of depth it.

671
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: Is, and the depth is slow. So I would get

672
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: worried if they just bring all the boys back because

673
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: they understand the system. They like dun Kempbell. I think

674
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: they've got to get so much more explosive and take

675
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: some flyers on young guys who flamed out elsewhere and

676
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: bind to your own culture and we can coach up

677
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: on all that stuff, which I think is what they

678
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: did with McCreary. I think that's the angle they have

679
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: to look at. I think if we get a couple

680
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: months down the line they just keep bringing everyone back,

681
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: that would worry me.

682
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: It's a fair point. There's definitely not offensive linemen or

683
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: tackles that are just going to be sitting out there.

684
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: But you can find some defensive backs, you can find

685
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: some defensive backups, but you really need to find some

686
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: edge talent somewhere and figure out a way to develop them.

687
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: It's really been a problem. They've put a ton of

688
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: resources into their defensive line with pretty mixed results other

689
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: than taking a pick everyone could have made with with

690
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson. All right, I will give them. I think

691
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: they were working with limited space here, and I just

692
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: have a bias when it comes to the Lions, So

693
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: I'll give them an eighty one. Eighty one. That's too high,

694
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: too low.

695
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: Too high? What have they made any degree of needle

696
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: moving move I look, but cave Mays, that's still exposed

697
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 1: a left tackle and an edge Russia. I don't think

698
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: having a solid pivot is going to change the full

699
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: tunes of a team who believes they are a contender.

700
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: All right, give me give me a number.

701
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a C.

702
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: I think it's on the low end going towards C minus. Okay,

703
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: that's a seventy three, and you've you've convinced me. I'm

704
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: I like it when Bill Simmons gets easily convinced if

705
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: his guest has a good argument, because I'll listen to that.

706
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: Let's go seventy nine. I just am kind of considering

707
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: that it's incomplete right now, but it's it's not great

708
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: right now. For the lines, we've actually been nicer graders.

709
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: We had more d's on our AFC. Let's see what

710
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: we have for the Packers. The Packers, just when you

711
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: think you know what they're gonna do, they trade for

712
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: two players who or they get two players that are aging,

713
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Zire Franklin from the Colts, the linebacker they traded for,

714
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: and Javon Hargrave. They signed to pretty good money. Otherwise

715
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: it's been quiet. They re signed their own lineman, Sean

716
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: Ryan for three years, thirty three million dollars, eleven million

717
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed, kind of that mic contract that's been going around.

718
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Benjamin Saint Juice, who played pretty well for the Chargers

719
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: last year, gets ten million dollars over two years. Kind

720
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: of replaces Nate Hobbs. Some teams have like a ton

721
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: of free agents just sitting out there. I've mentioned those.

722
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: The Packers are not one of those teams, like all

723
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: of their guys have landed elsewhere. Malik Willis, Emanuel Wilson,

724
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs, Rashid Walker, Elton Jenkins who they cut, an Igbari,

725
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: Nate Hobbs, who I mentioned they tried to cut. They

726
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: traded away, Kolbe Wood and Rashan Gary, So a lot

727
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: of people out the door. They have twenty eight million dollars.

728
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: Pretty average in terms of cap space. What do you think?

729
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty putrid given the timeline that

730
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: they're on, and I understand some of that rush now.

731
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: I think, if I had to guess, is we were

732
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: really young and explosive, but we're a little bit frenetic

733
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: in Haywi, and so we're going to try and get

734
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: more savvy vettes in the room. But I just look

735
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: at it in the round once they complete everything, and

736
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: it's just so uninspiring to stick with the offensive line

737
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: and bett an internal development, to not try and bring

738
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: someone into the mix, to try and shake things up

739
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: and maybe displace one of the tackles all the gods.

740
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty concerning. I thought the Zaia Franklin

741
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: deal was just kind of bizarre. I don't know how

742
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: it was so weird the system at all. I don't

743
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: know why getting that guy this phaseous griffits them in

744
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: any way, having let a really explosive linebacker go for

745
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: all the faults of quay Walka, I just don't know why,

746
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: one to one you would not just pay that contract

747
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: over bringing Zaire Franklin in. So just across the ball,

748
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: I's found him very strange.

749
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: He's making Zire Franklin seven or eight million dollars, so

750
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: I guess they could have thought that's a good deal

751
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: for him, but it's really not. It's probably about what

752
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: he would get in free agency if that. I saw

753
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: an interesting comment from one of the Packers beat writers.

754
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: I wish I could credit him right now that maybe

755
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: some of the guys that they let go were a

756
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: little bit more about behind the scenes culture fit ish,

757
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: injury ish, but maybe more culture fit. Because the writer

758
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: made sure to say, well, that's not talking about in

759
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 2: a Bari Moliquillis, Romeo Dobbs. So it's basically the rest

760
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: of them. You can just fill in the gaps who

761
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: the rest of them was. So I was like, okay,

762
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: interesting if that's part of the calculus, but it's it's

763
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: hard to put that into my grade. There's not a

764
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: lot to talk about here. I'm gonna go I just

765
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: they're getting punished because it's like, I'm sure this happens

766
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: with English teachers. If you're just going, if you just

767
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: have a bunch of great students in a row and

768
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: you're giving solid grades and then you get a clunker,

769
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, finally I give someone a D.

770
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give them a D. Let's give

771
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: them a sixty eight. I don't get it.

772
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm giving them a D. Yeah. A team that's on

773
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: the coastfy that. And I know they've had the youngest

774
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 1: rush in the league for two years, but them getting

775
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: older and slower at specific positions I just find completely puzzling.

776
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: And the Packers fans will be like, well, this is

777
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: what we do. We don't we don't do it in

778
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: free agency, and for the most part, I think they

779
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: wish they did do more things in free agency. It

780
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 2: went poorly when they tried last year with Aaron Banks

781
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: and Nate Hobbs, and maybe they were afraid. But is

782
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: that working, like not doing it in free agency, like

783
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: is it really working? I don't. I kind of don't

784
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: think it is. I think they want more considering the

785
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: quarterback on the coach that they have, they could be better.

786
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Vikings. They signed Kyler Murray and

787
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: they only have to pay him one point three million dollars.

788
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 2: What a nifty trick by this Vikings team to make

789
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: me look at their season coming up so differently. When

790
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: they went into this offseason in the biggest cap hell

791
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: of any team in the league. They got Aaron Jones

792
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: to take a pay cut down to five and a

793
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: half million dollars so he stayed. They re signed Eric Wilson.

794
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: This was easily the biggest contract they signed this offseason,

795
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: which is crazy. The rush linebacker. He gets twelve and

796
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: a half million dollars guaranteed. It's not that big of

797
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: a contract. It's three years, twenty two million dollars. But

798
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: they just haven't made any other moves a move around

799
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: the edge that I like. You know, Brian Flores pointed

800
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: at James Pierre from the Steelers and said, I want

801
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: that guy, and he got them for only three point

802
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: seven million dollars guaranteed on a two year deal. They

803
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: had some players retire c J. Hamm, Ryan Kelly, Their

804
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: center retired. They cut Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen who

805
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: were making big money and got deals elsewhere. Harrison Smith

806
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: may or may not retire. We don't really know that

807
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: right now. It's definitely been a step back off season

808
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: for the Vikings and yet making Kyler happen in the

809
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: couple little moves that they have to me have all

810
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: been like doubles to better and so I really like

811
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: their offseason so far.

812
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's disappointing. I think

813
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: to lose the solid competent players. I think Jalen Nayla

814
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: can be a really good player down the lines. Of

815
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: losing him, I think is disappointing. The hard Graven Allen ones.

816
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: They just didn't work in Kelly. There's not much you

817
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: can do with the injury history there. But when you

818
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: go from incompetent quarterback to competent quarterback. I know Kyler

819
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Murray has his faults and I pointed out many of

820
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: them before, but it's a massive bar rais I believe

821
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: over JJ McCarthy. So if you do that at that price,

822
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: how is that not a great offseason? That's what it

823
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: comes out to me. And you can talk about all

824
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: the stuff on the margins. I think the James Pierre

825
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: deal is an unbelievable pickup for them. It's just a

826
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: way cheap than I thought. Flyer on a guy you'll

827
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: probably just be better being in the orbit Brian Flores.

828
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: So to go from bad quoter back to I think

829
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: above average starting quale back at that cost is as

830
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: good as anyone can do it enough season.

831
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have a ton of juice on offense

832
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: outside of Jefferson and Addison, which is quite a big

833
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: except for but it's it's thin at wide receiver. Aaron

834
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: Jones and Jordan Mason will get you buy at running back,

835
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: but you would like a little more juice there. Hockinson

836
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: also came back I should have mentioned on a reduced

837
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: deal that hadn't got all the details there, but it

838
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: sounds like he's taking less money in exchange for hitting

839
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: free agency sooner. So you really look through their roster,

840
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't see crazy holes. Even the competent veterans you

841
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: mentioned like cutting Hardgrave and Jonathan Allen and those were

842
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: cat moves. But they have some young guys that are

843
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: pretty solid on the defensive line, and I see a contender.

844
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: I think Kyler saved this entire idea of this Vikings

845
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: build that they can just stay right there and contend.

846
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I agree that I do worry about another year of

847
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: Flores going to all with that system. It's just the

848
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: sustainability of defense. Yet it doesn't work that way. Does

849
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: he have another trick up his sleeve. I'm not so sure.

850
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: He's kind of pushed his chips all the way in

851
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: for a very unique style, and at some point I

852
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: think he could crack or get found out, and I

853
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of that

854
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: season which could be coming up. But the defensive line

855
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: point you mentioned is a good one because Jalen Redmond

856
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: is the most viable piece they have in the middle

857
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: of that defense, and so keeping him a really cheap

858
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: deal to let the expensive big names go makes a

859
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: ton of sense to me. It would just be nice

860
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: to have a few more guys in the rotation, but

861
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: I think you can just find those guys all the

862
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: way up through training camp. That's just always an older

863
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman out there who can give you serviceable

864
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: rotation snaps.

865
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: Right, they had these other young late picks Tyron Ingram

866
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: Dawkins and Levi Drake Rodriguez who played like serviceable snaps,

867
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: and they'll they'll be in the mix. Jonathan Gernard is

868
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: on this roster still. There were reports that Eagles were

869
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: interested in trading him, that he was available for a

870
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Day two pick. So watch this space. But they've they've

871
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: gotten through the cap issues in a way, because you

872
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: had to be cap compliant when the new league year starts.

873
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: They have six million dollars in cap space, which is

874
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: basically nothing you have to sign a rookie class. They

875
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: don't really have it now. Maybe they'll trade Grenard, which

876
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: which would hurt. We'll see, but right now I'm gonna

877
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: give them considering the limitations. I consider the limitations, so

878
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: I am grading on a curve. They were second by

879
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: the way last year in cash spending, so sometimes when

880
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: you spend a ton of cash one year, it comes

881
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: back to the pack the next year. And that is

882
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: where they're at. They're towards the bottom of the league.

883
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: This year. They fired QUESSI I don't know if that

884
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: counts in.

885
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a couple of great bump.

886
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'll just go eighty that's

887
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: kind of a eh, it's fine.

888
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I gave a bee having eighty is fat.

889
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: I was worried you're going to try and talk me

890
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: into something high, as though.

891
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: Eighty one eighty two if a B would be an

892
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: eighty four eighty five from you. But we're just throwing

893
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: in We're throwing out numbers NFC South Tua, tongue of

894
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: Ilo is on the falcons. There's there's some moves that

895
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: just I haven't like taken enough time to. I will

896
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: go through like I will go through the whole, you know, spiel.

897
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: But do you sometimes read books or movies that like

898
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: while you were reading or watching them, they were like

899
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: okay to good, but they stick with you. Oh yeah,

900
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: it's like takes a while to really understand almost to

901
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: like I feel like to a tongue of iload to

902
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: the falcons, I haven't fully grasped what that's gonna mean

903
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: for all of our lives.

904
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: Ali Now, I don't buy that it's the good scheme

905
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: fit that people are talking about. I think that I

906
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: accept people view tours kind of like point god type

907
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: player and gets the ball out quickly, and that could

908
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: what with Kevin Stefenski. But Stefenski's offense is way more

909
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: about quote about movement, about true stretch when it's rolling

910
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: the way he wanted to roll. And the only season

911
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: it's not really run like that was when Joe Flacco

912
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: got off the couch when absolutely maniacal. I was just

913
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: dicing people up down the field, which is not too

914
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: a skill set, and anyway, that was not designed up

915
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: by chemist. He had a guy just go in fuego

916
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: off the couch. But it mostly requires a true stretch

917
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: element with real backside conflict on defenders where the quarterback

918
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: has a real ability to roll out and throw on

919
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: the move and be a real running threat themselves. And

920
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: that's just not to us game. So it's going to

921
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: be from the gun trying to pick people apart. And

922
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: I can see that vision with the pieces they have

923
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: with Pits, with Drake London, with Bijon that I can

924
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: kind of get myself there. But I just don't think

925
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: it's a one to one skill set thing, and I

926
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: don't think it's at all if you're building any kind

927
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: of infrastructure, which they may not be for Michael Pennix,

928
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: the skill sets are in no way similar and just

929
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: because they both throw left, which does help in terms

930
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: of like designing the playbook and building things out. There's

931
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: just no oval ap there in the skills of the

932
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: two guys, and I just don't think Tour is a

933
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: natural fit for stefanskis done at his best, he may

934
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: evolve and that would be I think a benefit for

935
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. But it felt like a tired off season

936
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: to me. And that's been my complaint about Sefanski throughout

937
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: the off seasons that I worry he's going to come

938
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: in tired, out of ideas, and this whole thing felt

939
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: tired and out of ideas to me.

940
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: Fair I don't think he's gonna have that much juice,

941
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: but I'm in terms of personnel, say you have Matt Ryan,

942
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: you have Ian Cunningham. But in terms of choosing a quarterback,

943
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: obviously he's gonna have a big voice, and they had

944
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: a choice. If you really think about there was three quarterbacks.

945
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: It's very unique this year that essentially could start for

946
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: you that were coming for free because their old teams

947
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: are paying them. Actually four if you include Kirk Cousins

948
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: in that mix. But obviously they weren't gonna be that team,

949
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: and it was Gino as Kyler Murray and it was

950
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: Tua and they went really early on just jumping on

951
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: the Tua train before Kyler was even really available. I

952
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: don't know. Here's one thing I know, before I get

953
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: into all the moves Ali that you threw out there,

954
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: I can promise you they are not building in infrastructure

955
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: for Michael Pennix.

956
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, which is reasonable. And I would prefer to

957
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: watch Week one with Tour at quarterback. Then I wipe

958
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: Michael Pennox. I know he's got the injury, but ib

959
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: he just asked me to who do you want to

960
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: watch run the offense in week one? I do like

961
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: the idea of Tua just accuracy, spread it around to

962
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: the weapons. I'm into that, but anything beyond that, I

963
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: just really don't think he fits. While Kem Szefanski's offense

964
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: has looked when it's at its best, Kyler is a

965
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: tricky one anyway, because Kyler hates going un to center

966
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: and rolling out. That's just not how he wants to play,

967
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: even though the skills of that to be really effective

968
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: about it. So I can understand why they say what

969
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: it's not interested in that style of player. But tours

970
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: in that guy either right.

971
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: And there was a moment into us career where we

972
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: might have been looking a little too hard, but it

973
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: was like, oh, he is making a few improvived plays.

974
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: There are a few off schedule plays there. If he

975
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: can just sprinkle those in, you got something. But those

976
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: have gone away. I think he's less mobile, whether it's

977
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: the concussion issues or just his athleticism. As he remains

978
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: in the league and the hits that he's taking, he

979
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: just hasn't looked like that guy. I think a fun

980
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: idea for a show I just thought about it when

981
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: we were talking about Penix would be like the disrespect rankings,

982
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: because I might rank how the Falcons have publicly spoken

983
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: about Michael PENNOCKX as more disrespectful than the Vikings in

984
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: terms of they were talking about JJ McCarthy. It's like,

985
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: could not be more clear that they don't really count

986
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: on Michael Pennox at all. It's just like, Wow, okay, I.

987
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: Think the mccafee one is an all time I've seen

988
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: an organization so pulpfully say we think this guy stings.

989
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Some of you guys keep re pulleting. We actually think

990
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: he might be okay, and we're telling you week after

991
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: week he's terrible.

992
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: It's fair. It's close, though. The Pennocks stuff is not cool.

993
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: Here's what else they did. It's been a quiet off season.

994
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: We'll keep this one quick. They signed a handful of

995
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: pass catchers for cheap money. Johan Dotson who actually got

996
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: kind of like a mid tier, low number three receiver

997
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: type of contract, which is a worthy bet. I don't

998
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: hate that. Alamidae as Akias is back for cheap money.

999
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: Austin Hooper, the former Patriots tight end, is back as

1000
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: like a backup to Kyle Pitts, who they tagged. They

1001
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: signed some volume in terms of defense of players. Aziz

1002
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: Ojulari is going to be there, Ebacom is there, Deshaun

1003
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: hand from the Chargers is here. Christian Harris, the linebacker

1004
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: from the Texans this year. Nick Fok is on this team. Overall,

1005
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: they kind of took a step back, though, if you

1006
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 2: kind of look at the players that they lost, Tyler Algier,

1007
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: Darneld Mooney, Arnold Abaukehetti, David Onyamada, Caden LSD offered not

1008
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: amazing players, but I think more has left the building

1009
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: than has really come into the building. They have twenty

1010
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: two million dollars, not a ton in cap space, but

1011
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: some And one thing I've noticed should be on the

1012
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: Falcons fans raidar like not spending a lot of money

1013
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: the last two years, two years in a row. Just

1014
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: wanting your team to be spending money. That's what I want.

1015
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: If like, they're pretty low in cash and in both

1016
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: of those years, so that maybe speaks to the poor

1017
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: cap management overall. I'm going to give this off season

1018
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: a C, like a low C seventy three.

1019
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a D. Didn't look the

1020
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: highest anyway going into it, and the plays you just

1021
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: listed out. They signed very similar archetype of players who

1022
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: are worse than the players they let leave the building.

1023
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: I think kid Nellis is really good they let him go.

1024
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: I really like Donald Mooney Alja fits a pretty valuable

1025
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: role on Yamada. Similar where it's like, I know, you

1026
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: can get those guys pretty cheap, but he's good at

1027
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: what he does, and the guys they brought in to

1028
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: replace them just on at the same level.

1029
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: To me, not yet, not allowed to believe in right now,

1030
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: that's not true of our next team, and it's why

1031
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: it is time for charging into the offseason, presented by

1032
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1035
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1036
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: We had to give the Panthers the honor of charging

1037
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: into the offseason because they spent that money, sixty million

1038
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: dollars in real guaranteed money to Jalen Phillips on a

1039
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: four year, one hundred and twenty million dollar contract. They

1040
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: got Devin Lloyd in the building for only fifteen million

1041
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: dollar a year, twenty five million dollars guaranteed. That's very

1042
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: similar to these other linebacker contracts that were out there

1043
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: this offseason, especially to Kobe Dean and Koay Walker, but

1044
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: not even that much more than the other ones like

1045
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: tre Tremaine Edmonds, for instance. They signed Rashid Walker to

1046
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: a deal. We're still waiting to see the terms. I

1047
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: heard some whispers that his lack of a market might

1048
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: have been because of his health and because of some

1049
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: physical concerns with Rashid Walker. They also made a lot

1050
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: of small moves John Metchi. They added for depth Luke Fortner,

1051
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: who was okay for the Saints at center last year,

1052
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: might be the starting center here. They brought back sometime

1053
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: host of the show, JJ Jansen to be their long

1054
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: snapper once again, one of the longest tenured players in

1055
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: the history of the Panthers, and at this point in

1056
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, who knows. And then this show is primarily

1057
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: a show ali for me to like catch all the

1058
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: things that fell through the cracks, and it is partly

1059
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: to remember that Kenny Pickett has got four million dollars

1060
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: from the Panthers, way more than I would expect it,

1061
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: and it's on this roster. So is Andy Dalton for now.

1062
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: But they keep saying they're gonna cut him, but they

1063
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: haven't actually cut him yet. Let's let's start at the top.

1064
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: What do you think of the Phillips Lloyd moves.

1065
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: I love getting the blue chip players. I love giving

1066
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: Eero everro some actual human players who can play in

1067
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: the NFL on defense, giving him a chance starts. They

1068
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Speaker 1: do something with good players. I thought the Lloyd contract

1069
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: was wild, as you mentioned that, it's how comparative it

1070
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: is to other players. I just think he is in

1071
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: a tier above all the of the guys who are

1072
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: available in framesy. So I thought he'd go for significantly more,

1073
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised he didn't just go back to Jacksonville

1074
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: given that that was the market. The Phillips one, I

1075
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: do think is a pretty heavy overpay, given the health concerns,

1076
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: the injury history, how he just wins as a one

1077
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: on one Russia compared to paying elite money for the

1078
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: guys who can just beat up on any kind of

1079
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: tackle in the NFL. I think he's a little bit

1080
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: more slippery than it is like true straight juice and power,

1081
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: which is how usually the best guys in the league

1082
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: win year after year. But if you wanted to go

1083
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: and get pass rushing juice, you would eat a shopping

1084
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: in the defaoway market and hoping for the best. Or

1085
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: you can get a guy who truly does have kind

1086
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: of top five in the league type production within him,

1087
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: I think if he plays every snap in a season.

1088
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: So I understand why they went for Phillips. They went

1089
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: for the best thing they could on the market. I

1090
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: think a little bit of them getting burned by Milton

1091
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: Williams last season and just deciding we are gonna pay

1092
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to get this one over the line,

1093
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: and so I don't love that from a team billing perspective,

1094
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: maybe adding an extra couple of dollars on there, just

1095
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: to make sure you get it done having been burned

1096
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: in the past. But all that made sense to me.

1097
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: That part of it made sense that and I did

1098
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: think Milton Williams was absolutely a factor. I also think

1099
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: they had to go way over the top of what

1100
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: the Eagles were offering. In the end, I have a

1101
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: feeling Phillips would have taken less money to play with

1102
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Eagles were offering definitely in the twenties, whether

1103
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: that was twenty two, twenty four to twenty five, who knows.

1104
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I think the Panthers had to

1105
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: pay a little bit of a okay, we're the Panthers

1106
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: tax on that and really give them the guarantees, and

1107
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: they got it, and it's just the right time in

1108
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: their team build to do it. I do hate the

1109
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: risk because of his injuries in the past. Where like

1110
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: in a best case scenario, you know he lives up

1111
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: or gets close to this value and stays healthy. There

1112
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: are plenty of other scenarios, whether it's performance or injury

1113
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: where he doesn't. But I think if they were gonna

1114
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: make a risk, he moved like that this this was

1115
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: the time to do it. I don't hate it.

1116
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: I agree with that. And I think if you just

1117
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: package the contracts together, were Phillips and Lloyd, and he

1118
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: said they got these two plays full of this combined value,

1119
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, that's great. That's solid value for

1120
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: two I think potential game changing plays. They just haven't

1121
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: had anything like that on defense for years now.

1122
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Well, they could also say we got Jalen Phillips for

1123
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: I believe about the same guaranteed money as the Bills

1124
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: got DJ Moore. So you feel good about that. Good

1125
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: with that. It's probably nothing, but I noticed it both

1126
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: Rico Dawdle and Ashawn Robinson left the Panthers, and they

1127
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: were both kind of salty about it and made negative

1128
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 2: comments about the Panthers. Just something I noticed. Maybe Rico

1129
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: Dado was simply that like they didn't value me, but

1130
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Ashawn Robinson in his press conference for the Bucks kind

1131
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: of like called into question how things were running. Care

1132
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: Just just something I noticed from these two guys.

1133
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: Something to know. I love Rico Dadda because he does

1134
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: seem to believe he's Eric Dickerson and being held back

1135
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: by the organization. I admired that level of confidence.

1136
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it was anything more than that.

1137
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: I don't really think this is the thing, but it

1138
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: just it was interesting. And Ashawn is in the division.

1139
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna get to him in just a second. Also,

1140
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Yosh Ninemann retired. I hadn't mentioned that offensive lineman who

1141
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: had a pretty good career as a late rounder, undrafted guy.

1142
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: And yeah, they lost Kaid Mays, who they get out

1143
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: spent for not a ton of cap space here for

1144
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: the Panthers. Did we give them a grade? No, we didn't.

1145
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: Wasn't everything I wanted, but the Devin Lloyd really makes

1146
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: me enjoy it more so I'm gonna give them a

1147
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: B eighty five.

1148
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: I'll go a minus. What does that guessnum as why

1149
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: nine nineties? I think a minus said it would have

1150
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: been a n A if not for just the I

1151
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: know they had to have paid for Phillis, but it's

1152
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: to me a pretty dramatic overpay with the injury concerns

1153
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: they did.

1154
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: They did take two of my top ten players and

1155
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: then Walker ended up in my top thirty somewhere. They

1156
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: got them for cheap. There might be an injury situation there,

1157
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: but that really meets I love that move considering where

1158
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: they were at. Just they needed something respectable. All right,

1159
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: I'm bumping it up to an eighty eight eighty nine.

1160
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: All right. That was charging into the offseason, presented by

1161
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,839
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1162
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,160
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1163
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1164
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: subject to credit approval. All right, Let's get to the Bucks.

1165
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: The most money they spent per year, it was a

1166
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: tie between kate A and our guy and Ashan Robinson.

1167
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: I was really surprised. Ashan Robinson, who's been just a

1168
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: workmanlike rotational defensive lineman, got ten million dollars. It's really

1169
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: just a one year contract, so nothing in the future.

1170
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: But Kate Atten also got ten million a year on

1171
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: a three year deal. It's fully guaranteed twenty million dollars

1172
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: to the first two years, essentially guaranteed. They signed two

1173
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: ex lions the Bucks. In al Kahed Mohammad, we mentioned

1174
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: that's a contract that's up to six, so a lot

1175
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: of times that's like a four million dollar contract. Alex

1176
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: Adzeloni got twelve million dollars the linebacker from the Lions

1177
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: two years seventeen million dollars. Similar deal for Kenneth Gainwell,

1178
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: who got two years, fourteen million dollars. The Steelers' MVP

1179
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: adds to the backfield with Bucky Irving. I liked bringing

1180
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: back and you couldn't bring back everyone, but they lost

1181
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: Mike Evans. I think they wanted to keep Mike Evans,

1182
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: didn't they Maybe not that much, you would think so,

1183
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 2: But his contract is so low it makes me wonder.

1184
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 2: Rashad White is gone, Jamel Dean is gone. Son Reddick

1185
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: and Levonte David are both out there. I think Levante

1186
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: David is retiring, and Jake Browning is on the Buccaneers.

1187
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: Do you know that I didn't know that.

1188
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because not inspiring that that's not overly exciting. It's

1189
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: a downgrade I think from Teddy. Middle of the pack

1190
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: in terms of cap space in cash. Not really a

1191
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: lot to talk about there, A little curious. I think

1192
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: the Evans move through them for a loop to start

1193
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: their offseason because or they just didn't want him. Because

1194
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: he only got he basically got a one year, fourteen

1195
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: million dollar contract. Mike freaking Evans.

1196
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: I think they knew he was gone and they tried

1197
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: to do a face saving golf. I thought this was

1198
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: almost an apocalypse of an offseason. Frankly, wo I really

1199
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: respect Jason light He sees football the way I see football.

1200
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: I like guys who see football the way I see football.

1201
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: As an assist. This is, I think, as bad as

1202
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: it can go. When the everything you've built towards was

1203
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: we all going to at some point, but the chips

1204
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: in to try and have a second run of this thing.

1205
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: We're going to try and win it. The back end

1206
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 1: this Baker Mayfield contract, we are searching the market French defenders.

1207
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Can we get Max Crosby. We don't have the goods

1208
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: to quite do the deal before the Ravens do it

1209
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: and it falls through. Can we go and get Trey

1210
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: Hendrickson we get beat by the raven shnannigans for Trey Hendrickson?

1211
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: Where else can we go? In the meantime, as we

1212
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: are kind of signaling to the veteran on our roster,

1213
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: our future, all of fame, I promise you this is

1214
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: the year we're going in, We're going for it. You

1215
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: can't get the deals done, and then he decides I'm

1216
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: out of it. The culture doesn't fit for me anymore.

1217
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: It's not a winning culture. You're bringing top balls back again.

1218
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: When I was expecting him to move on, I'm out.

1219
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I think all around what their goals were, which was

1220
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: to go and get a premiere a one pass rusher

1221
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: that they've been chasing for so long, had the ammunition

1222
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: to do it, had the will to do it. They

1223
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: lose out on that, and it costs them the most

1224
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: important player in their franchise.

1225
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: It's a convincing argument. I could even think, like, you're

1226
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: absolutely right in terms of where they are in the

1227
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: team build, like this is the time to go. But

1228
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: that was also their year last year, and they didn't

1229
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: even make the playoffs in one of the worst divisions

1230
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: in football. It really didn't get enough national attention. A

1231
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: because they're the Bucks, and then B because the Bengals

1232
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: and the Bills and the Ravens were happening to various degrees.

1233
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: I shouldn't kill the Bills too much. They were very

1234
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: close to making the Super Bowl, but the Bucks, it

1235
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: was kind of a catastrophic season and they decided not

1236
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: to get off everything, And yeah, this offseason feels like

1237
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: treading water. And some of the comments from Mike Evans

1238
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: and he's tried to play both sides of the fence

1239
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: and be appreciative of the fans, did indicate to me

1240
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: a little bit that he felt like the culture was stale.

1241
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: When he talked about what he was looking for for

1242
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: San Francisco, maybe what he wasn't getting. And yeah, it's

1243
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: disappointing because this team should be more fun than it is.

1244
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: But really nothing you can hang your hat on in

1245
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: terms of this offseason other than Kenny g It's fine.

1246
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: Kenny, It's a very good pick up. I love them

1247
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: resigning Kadarton. I thought the Angeloni contract and signing was

1248
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: a big giveaway. They've been crying out for a really

1249
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: explosive kind of one step pop and drop mugg dub

1250
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: linebacker for three seasons. They should have gone and got

1251
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. He was available. To the mind of trade.

1252
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: They said no, thank you missed out on that one. Dramatically.

1253
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: Levontay thinks retiring every season they decide not to replace that.

1254
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: They going to get Alex Andeloni, which is a carbon

1255
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: copy of what Levonte David gives them and is not

1256
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: a player who plays as an explosive pop and drop

1257
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: mugg dub linebacker. He's a running, chase, running rally, high

1258
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: five everyone type player. So they just go one to

1259
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: one across the board on players that weren't good enough

1260
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: to get them over the top. Anyway, they're telling everyone

1261
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: who will listen, this is the year we're making the

1262
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: big moves. We tried last offseason. We got a little

1263
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: bit of cold feet at the asking prices. It's gonna

1264
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: be this year. We're running it back with Todd. The

1265
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: only way we can improve the team is to take

1266
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: the assets we have and try and go and get

1267
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: a premier pass rusher. And I don't quite agree with that.

1268
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're quite where they believe they

1269
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: are in terms of like competitiveness to win the whole,

1270
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: But they think they are. And then I just thought

1271
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: they got cold feet on every major move.

1272
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: Also, haven't really heard about a Baker contract extension that

1273
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: that's kind of looming over is he got to be

1274
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: their guy long term? They need a better season out

1275
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: of him. Overall, give me your your bucks grade.

1276
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: It's a D. I would have it as an F.

1277
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: But because the Crosby deal fell through and that's still

1278
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: hanging out that I'm not ruling out that they could

1279
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: maybe get back in Boltimore.

1280
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so a D A sixty five for Ali, I'm

1281
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm definitely factoring in the fact that Jason Light like

1282
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: confronted Connor Or for his takedown of the Bucks right

1283
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: before they had a great season. We've had Jason light

1284
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: on the show. He always like calls calls back to

1285
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: things that people say about him, So you know that's

1286
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: that's a factor here. And yet I feel like I

1287
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: got to give him a sixty nine. He's still in

1288
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: the D range here. If if they want to clip

1289
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: this and bring back to me after all these moves

1290
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: work out well al Kaheed Muhammad actually ups his sack total,

1291
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: then I'll be happy to take it because I want

1292
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: the Bucks to do well. All right, let's take a

1293
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: break and we will wrap up our NFC grades with

1294
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: the NFC West right after this. Back on NFL Daily.

1295
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 2: I always feel like Ali that we were the kids

1296
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: that are letting down our parent, Eric Roberts when we

1297
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: go like a little too long on the show. He

1298
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: just likes a nice, tight off season show, but this

1299
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: is these are gonna be unique shows in terms of

1300
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: really recapping it all, gonna we're gonna sprint home here

1301
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: or not. The Cardinals had a quiet offseason. I would say.

1302
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: They signed Isaac Seabalu to a three year, thirty one

1303
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: million dollar contract. Now they're one of those fifteen of

1304
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: that is guaranteed, so really like a year and a

1305
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: half is guaranteed. Kendrick Bourne and Tyler Alzier are both

1306
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: on this team for two year contracts around five to

1307
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: six million dollars each. That's about what Gardner Minshew is

1308
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: making five point seventy five which sounds like a backup

1309
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: but it's actually more than Jacoby Brissett is making, so

1310
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: that's interesting. They got James Connor to take a big

1311
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: pay cut to come back. He is only making two

1312
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: million dollars this year, which is real backup money. That's interesting.

1313
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: And then just a ton of micro moves. Roy Lopez,

1314
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: who they've had before, comes back. Andrew Billings defensive lineman,

1315
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: a couple offensive linemen Matt pryor Elijah Wilkinson. Really small stuff.

1316
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: They are fourth in the league in terms of cap

1317
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: space and twenty seventh. In terms of cash spending. They

1318
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: also did not spend a lot of cash last year.

1319
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: This is the team that was asking their players to

1320
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: pay for their lunches. Someone was saying Kyler Murray was

1321
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: like getting extra meals on that visit to Minnesota. That's

1322
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: why he's signed there. He's just like, Wow, the salad

1323
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: bar is incredible. So it'd be nice to see the

1324
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: Cards spend a little more money, even if their fans

1325
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: would would I think push back to me Ali and

1326
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: say no, this year is about the reset, and we're

1327
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: thinking about twenty twenty seven. What do you think it's.

1328
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: About the reset? With a GM who's been here this

1329
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: long and promises us the roster is more talented than

1330
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: it was allowed to be shown last season. I just

1331
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't see any kind of vision. They're in a

1332
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: division with three freight trains and there's not even a

1333
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: let's just tear the thing completely down. Let's go and

1334
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: trade Buddha the most viable thing we have. Let's go

1335
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: and trade Marvin Harrison Junior. See there's a market there.

1336
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: There's not taking one of the tracks of either semi

1337
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: competitive rebuild or just saying we're ripping it down to

1338
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: the studs. This is just so met and bland and

1339
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: in the middle and cheat bets on players I'm not

1340
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: sure are that great or are gonna do anything for

1341
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: you by the time you may even consider being competitive again.

1342
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: I just find it completely puzzling, even down to you

1343
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong on this. But wasn't there

1344
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: option to try and get Jimmy Garoppolo in the building.

1345
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna let Kyler Murriy go and then call Jimmy

1346
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: Garoppolo and see if they can get him in the building.

1347
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: It's like, I just don't understand what the moves all

1348
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: for a GM who is supposedly at the very very

1349
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: end of this thing because he's got the second crack.

1350
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: Now with another head coach, they retain the defensive cord nata,

1351
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: the signaling that they think the roster was better than

1352
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: it was proven under less coaching staff it was not

1353
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: as good as they believe it was, and they make

1354
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: moves all on the margins.

1355
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't sell a rebuild a restart with the

1356
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: team with the GM that's been there this long. You

1357
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: just can't do it. And you can't sell it when

1358
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: you're saying we like his draft picks, and yes, if

1359
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: you look at Monte austin Forts draft, he's hit plenty

1360
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: of singles and he hasn't had a lot of strike up.

1361
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: Like They've been solid singles, some doubles, some misses, but

1362
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: overall it's been okay. Like they have a lot of

1363
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: NFL players, but it's just not enough. And Jimmy Garoppolo,

1364
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: I believe, turned them down. According to the report, Jordan

1365
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: kind of mentioned, you know, Micha Lfler has this connection,

1366
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: but you get knocked in the grates for that too.

1367
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: You weren't even good enough for Jimmy g who might

1368
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: be retiring and maybe just his heart is in it anymore,

1369
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: or just likes being Matthew Stafford's backup and it's good

1370
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: luck kind of into that and if like no, if

1371
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: like they don't, if the Rams though on, it might

1372
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: be just like, yeah, well I've made a lot of money.

1373
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: I really like LA It's it's been a good it's

1374
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: been a good run. I don't know what to say

1375
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: about this team. I don't know. I'm just gonna throw

1376
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: my grade on right right away because I'm not gonna

1377
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: break down the Roy Lopez move for that long D

1378
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: minus sixty two.

1379
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: I'll go with an F factoring in everything they've done

1380
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: over the whole off season. I just you got to

1381
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: pick a lane at some point, and I just feel

1382
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: like they are straggling through the middle to who knows what.

1383
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: Maybe they crush it in the draft, but even then,

1384
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: it still feels like they are so far away when

1385
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: you look at what's left in the division.

1386
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: Even Tyler out Gear for that money is fine. He's

1387
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: getting like six million dollars a year. But even him

1388
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: and Born for five six million dollars a year, it's

1389
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: like it even those signings are kind of like pick

1390
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: a lane. Gardner minshew Is is a pick alane signing.

1391
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: Why why not do the leak? Willis moved that the

1392
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: Dolphins did it. They did it despite totally resetting and

1393
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: having very little cap space and having to figure it out.

1394
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: The Cardinals are swimming in cap space. They have no

1395
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: use for it. What are they doing? I don't know.

1396
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: When you when you see like Devin Lloyd out there

1397
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: for that kind of contract and you have oodles of

1398
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: cap space, it just makes no sense and not just

1399
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: try and make a deal the young players. Yeah, that

1400
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: was also maybe two or three wins better than it

1401
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: was last year. You just particularly on the defensive side,

1402
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: with all the injuries they had. This move, these moves

1403
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: do well, maybe an extra game if you're looky. So

1404
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: it's still leading to now.

1405
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: Of me, right, I agree with the idea that they

1406
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 2: were better than their record show last year, that they

1407
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: were maybe more of a six to seven win team.

1408
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: But they're in the hardest division in football, and they're

1409
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: getting worse, like they're not getting they're not getting better

1410
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: because everyone else is getting better, including the Rams. Fascinating offseason,

1411
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: they trade a first, the twenty seventh pick, a third,

1412
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 2: a fifth, and a sixth for Trent McDuff and they

1413
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: pay him fifty million dollars fully guaranteed, although the second

1414
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: year of the contract they'd have to cut him after

1415
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: one year. Basically they're guaranteed about I think it was

1416
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: seventy eight million dollars practically, so it's not really one

1417
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: hundred like they said, but it's pretty close seventy eight.

1418
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: It's really more of a two year deal than they

1419
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: could get out of if it went really poorly, and

1420
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: so he's a little closer because it's an extension to

1421
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars a year, not thirty one, but

1422
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: that's not crazy inflation. That's still the tippity top of

1423
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: the market for Trent McDuffie all those picks. They also

1424
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: give his teammate Jalen Watson the cornerback, twenty six point

1425
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: five million dollars guaranteed on a three year, fifty one

1426
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: million dollar deal. They resigned Cam Curle to a deal

1427
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: that I think was quietly influential because Cam Curl, I

1428
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: think set the market for all these safeties. The safety's

1429
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 2: finally got paid, and I really think it's because, well,

1430
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: Cam Curll got like twelve a year, and we're all

1431
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 2: about the same range as click Cam Crow, and I

1432
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: think they're right, and finally safeties got paid. So they

1433
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: resigned Curl and Quintin Lake. They really haven't los much

1434
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: at all, which is the feather in their cap of

1435
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: this offseason. Kobe Durant is the best player that they've lost.

1436
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: The cornerback Rob Hanstein retired, Jimmy g is a question

1437
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: mark if he's going to play or not again, and

1438
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: they have about twenty two million dollars in cap space.

1439
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: If I'm going to bang on some of the other

1440
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: teams for not spending cash. They are in the bottom

1441
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: five six teams and cash spending in back to back years.

1442
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: You couple that with the awful food selections at SOFI Stadium.

1443
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: Let's let's break out the checkbook. Heres s Dan Cronkey, like,

1444
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: how are we still eating nineteen eighties food? The Rams

1445
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: hate this whenever I bring this up. Yeah, I like

1446
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: it though. I like that they aggressively went after their

1447
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: biggest weakness. What do you think.

1448
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I apologize to the audience for continuing the Rams

1449
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: glazing of NFL daily through everything they do except for

1450
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: the food. But this was this was everything I contend

1451
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: to should do. I think they just are operating on

1452
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: a different timeline to effectively everyone else. Given the staff

1453
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: it could retire in the next season, maybe the year after,

1454
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: and so just deciding we're going to overawe the secondary.

1455
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: We're not gonna lie to ourselves and talk about player development.

1456
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: And hey, those guys held steadier for portions of the season,

1457
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: and we thought they should do based on their collective talent.

1458
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: It just was not good enough. And I also think

1459
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: it made them way more versatile that on third down. Now,

1460
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: if they just go straight man coverage with McDuffie and Watson.

1461
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: They're set there in a way they just weren't last season.

1462
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: I think they can do a bit more in the

1463
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: blitz and pressure game because of the corner group they've

1464
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: got now. So they made themselves more talented overall, they

1465
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: made themselves more dynamic and versatile as a defense, and

1466
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: they just went all in on fixing the core problem

1467
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: of the roster. And if you look at it now

1468
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: heading into the draft, they effectively have no holes and

1469
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 1: they have the thirteenth overall pick to go and have

1470
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: fun with. They can even just go and chase offensive firepower.

1471
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: They could move up in the draft. They've tried every

1472
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: year for like three years to try and move up

1473
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: in the draft. They could look at doing that. So

1474
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: that isn't I think a more complete roster in the

1475
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: league right now.

1476
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I think they need to be careful.

1477
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: They traded the pick, and I think they will be careful.

1478
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: I think they will try to keep nailing these picks

1479
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: because they are going to need the nucleus after everyone leaves.

1480
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is, it feels like it's this

1481
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: window because of DeVante and Stafford specifically, and yet if

1482
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: they can just replace the quarterback, which is a big

1483
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 2: difficult challenge that will be in front of them. I

1484
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be in bad position long

1485
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: term at all in terms of the assets that they have,

1486
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: obviously Puka and the coach and the management, and you're

1487
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: investing in players on defense Jalen Watson and Trent McDuffie specifically,

1488
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: but also Quintin Lake, like young players that should be productive,

1489
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: good players for you for the rest of this decade.

1490
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: So you know, they've been on a heater in terms

1491
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: of just slowly getting better every year. They definitely feel

1492
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: like this was a Super Bowl that got away from them.

1493
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: What did you think about the news after the fact

1494
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: that DeVante Adams could have been available in a trade

1495
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: if they got AJ Brown, which now they're getting out

1496
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: there that they're no longer in the AJ Brown market,

1497
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: so maybe trying to calm the waters there with DeVante Adams.

1498
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: I thought Davante was exceptional last season. There was some

1499
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: strange chemistry stuff with him and Stafford throughout the season,

1500
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: just not always being on the same page. I still

1501
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: thought he looked phenomenal and was like an absolute killer

1502
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: on third downs. He's obviously crushed people in the red

1503
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: zone all season long, so I would still be heavily

1504
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: in the Davonte Adams market. But aj Brown just with

1505
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: the body type, the physicality is I think just a

1506
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: level above it where Devanta Adams is at the stage

1507
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: of his career. So if you could do a deal

1508
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: to go and get one of the six seven best

1509
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL, if the medical checks out, you

1510
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: put anything on the table.

1511
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: This isn't the quarterback, right, It would have been a

1512
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: little tricky, but they do have twenty two million dollars

1513
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: in cap space to like make that all work. It

1514
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: smelled to me like another team just trying to throw

1515
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: a little stink bomb into the Rams building. I'm not

1516
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 2: even kidding, just like, oh you know that they Yeah,

1517
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: It's like, well, we talked about a lot of like

1518
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: different scenarios. Was there a scenario with one team out

1519
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 2: there that DeVante could have been failed? Like maybe, but

1520
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that ended up being too serious. All right,

1521
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: I'll give a I'll give an a minus here for

1522
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: the Rams, A high a minus ninety two, whatever that is.

1523
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a plus. I only I don't care

1524
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,879
Speaker 1: about Hey, the timeline can push beyond this. It's about parades.

1525
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: You want to have a parade. I think they put

1526
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: themselves in the best position possible to have a parade

1527
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: next off season and three is down the line. Hey,

1528
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: the timeline you can extend it. What I Ashean mcvail

1529
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: will be on NBC around a beach probably in five seasons.

1530
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: Just go and try and get as many parades as

1531
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: possible while stoff it is healthy.

1532
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: It's it's tough because it's just such a high bar.

1533
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 2: But that is that is the whole point. Like last year,

1534
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 2: they had that team. Even the year before, I feel

1535
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: like they the Eagles were a better team, but they

1536
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: felt like they have been in the mix four or

1537
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: five times now on er McVeagh, where you could say

1538
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: at the end of the year and it's probably one

1539
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: of the best five teams and they've gotten one title

1540
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: out of it. That is sort of how things work.

1541
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,919
Speaker 2: But it's just it's just a brutal business. They absolutely

1542
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 2: should be right at the top of the mix. I'm

1543
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: curious if you think the forty nine ers are there

1544
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: as well. After they signed Mike Evans, basically a one

1545
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: for fourteen. I mean, the actual contract terms were shocking

1546
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: to me. They control his rights for two more seasons

1547
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: after that, with basically team options, no risk to the

1548
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: team either his agent didn't do well or he had

1549
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: no levere I would have just taken the one for

1550
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: fourteen if I was Evans, like he gave away his

1551
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 2: rights for the two years after that too. They also

1552
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: added Christian Kirk. I want to stop there before I

1553
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: get into all the other moves and just let's just

1554
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: talk Evans and what you think about his fit with

1555
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and the fact that he had

1556
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 2: to settle for a deal that that was that low.

1557
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think selling for the deal when he kind

1558
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: of said publicly he was doing his own research and

1559
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: he was down to basically betting on Kyle Shanna, Animperdial

1560
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: just Josh Allen, just no one else in the Buffalo building,

1561
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: but Josh Allen limits the market. I agree with you

1562
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: that it's interesting if he could have just done a

1563
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: one year by one year deal just kind of going

1564
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: around contend to con tend to would have loved to

1565
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: have seen him with the Chiefs. But this is a

1566
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: pretty good fallback plot. It brings them a different dimensional offense.

1567
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: I think they needed so desperately reliability, a big third

1568
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: down target who is just consistently open and is open

1569
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: when he's not open, and that's just not something that

1570
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: they've had throughout Kyle Shad's time there. I know they

1571
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: have fun with moving plays around and maximizing stuff out

1572
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: of kind of C plus B type receivers, but I

1573
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: still think Mike Evans is an absolute stud. I think

1574
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: he's still a one player at the position in the league,

1575
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: and so to drop him on top of that receiving call,

1576
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: I think his outstanding work.

1577
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: People got scared, understandably from the production three hundred and

1578
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: sixty eight yards eight games last year, but the tape

1579
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: looked good. The problem is the thirty three years old.

1580
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: But that's why he's basically year to year. And you

1581
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: mentioned getting a lot out of lesser receivers. I could

1582
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: absolutely see a situation where Christian Kirk is playing on

1583
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: Thursday night football has a relatively quiet season, but like

1584
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 2: lights up the rams for one hundred and seventy yards

1585
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: and you're just like, wow, Christian Kirk. They also traded

1586
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: a third round pick for Osa o'degiezooa a fascinating trade

1587
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: we hit from the cowboy side earlier. They brought back

1588
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: day Greenlaw. I don't want to kill them on the

1589
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: contract until I see the actual numbers. It was reported

1590
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: as seven point five, but maybe that was up to

1591
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 2: we'll see. I thought it was a great by low

1592
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: on Nate Hobbs, who was a very highly sought after

1593
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 2: free agent last year for the Packers. That's an up

1594
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: to four point five, So that might be a two

1595
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: to three million dollar contract for a guy who was

1596
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: getting ten million dollars a year and still relatively young

1597
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: a year ago. I think they could work him out.

1598
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: They gave ten million dollars guaranteed. It's hilarious that Eddie

1599
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 2: Pinero got more guaranteed than Drake Greenlaw or Nate Hobbs.

1600
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: Shout out to Verderian Lowe Landy as a backup left tackle.

1601
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: I always said with the Patriots, like he's a little

1602
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: better than people think. People just killing him. They lost

1603
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne, they lost Bryce Huff who retired. Juwan Jennings

1604
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: is still out there. The kind of takeaway there in general,

1605
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: they still have plenty of cap space thirty nine million dollars.

1606
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 2: They have spent the most in cash on their roster

1607
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, which is crazy because you look at

1608
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: this free agency hall, so that's that's older contract that

1609
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 2: they're spending a lot of money on. Still, my takeaway

1610
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: just big picture is like the Seahawks lost some key

1611
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: players the Rams and forty nine Ers, especially, like this

1612
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: offseason just feels very additive. They weren't assuming Trent Williams

1613
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: is back. They're just adding and they already had, you know,

1614
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: pretty good rosters to begin with. Great and when you're

1615
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: talking about the Rams, what do you think about the

1616
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: forty nine ers?

1617
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you completely. They just added on

1618
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: to the roster. I still in those major question marks

1619
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: about them. Defensively, I thought the Adiyizua pickup was unbelievable value.

1620
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: I could not believe they snagged him for a third

1621
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: round pick. It's everything they need. He's going to be

1622
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: at his best in their system. So I think that's

1623
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: a great signing for them. They do need that rookie

1624
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: class of last year to look like competent professional players

1625
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: of whils it's just gonna fall apart on them again.

1626
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: So they still have a lot of work through. I

1627
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: think just the spine. The defense needs to be thicker

1628
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 1: and stronger. They have kind of all the fun players

1629
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,560
Speaker 1: and the juice, they just don't have reliability down to

1630
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: down along the interior. Outside of Fred Wanna, It's like

1631
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: that's it. He covers all the holes and he's coming

1632
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: back from a serious injury and he just got to

1633
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: hope and pray that he's going to be the play

1634
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: he was before. And so still a little bit worried

1635
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: about that when you compat into like the rems in

1636
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: terms of the completion of the Rosta, but in terms

1637
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: of just the offseason and what they did, I don't

1638
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: know how they could do any better to get Mike

1639
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: Evans on that contract. Is use only a third round

1640
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: pick to get Odez up. They would never got to

1641
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: play that talented for this year in the third round

1642
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: of the draft. And the Nate Helps one you mentioned,

1643
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: loved that as a Bilo fly and.

1644
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: It sounded like they were in on some of the

1645
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 2: other free agents out there, like Romeo Dobbs initially and

1646
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: like they were I think just ready but also flexible,

1647
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 2: and I agree I'm going to give them, like I'll

1648
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 2: give them an ans A ninety one for whatever they did.

1649
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: If they didn't get their top picks, they pivoted very

1650
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: well and to guys that give them really good value,

1651
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 2: and I suspect they're not done yet. It's it's more

1652
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 2: of a different conversation that you're right, they're really counting

1653
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: on Nick Bosa coming off of an injury, Fred Warner

1654
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: coming off of an injury, and they don't even know

1655
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 2: if what they're gonna get for George Kittle and Trent

1656
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: Williams is up there. But that's just part of their

1657
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: team build. I think they need to keep getting younger,

1658
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: they need to do better in the draft in general.

1659
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: That's not part of the free agency grades. So yeah,

1660
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: even as I'm talking about it, might give him a

1661
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 2: little higher. I'll go ninety three for the forty nine ers.

1662
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: I would have gone a the Green Lull one. We'll

1663
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: see what the money is. I just think he's effectively

1664
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: cooked at this phase with grad Maybe he can rediscover

1665
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: some of the magic with the nine as if you

1666
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: can stay on the field. But it felt like just

1667
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: a team bringing one of that guys back at a

1668
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: price that didn't make much sense to me.

1669
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said seven point five and it didn't say

1670
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 2: up to but we've seen some of these reports have

1671
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 2: been pretty shaky in the past. All right, let's wrap

1672
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: up with the Seahawks. Very strange offseason in a way,

1673
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 2: and I had to recheck, like check my research, Like

1674
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 2: Mike Evans, you might have limited it. That's a good

1675
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: point that he was just like, I'm picking this team,

1676
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 2: which is badass. He's made so much money, had such

1677
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: a great career, he might have picked his team. And

1678
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan helped convince him to go. Let's go to

1679
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 2: the six though, who only had four free agents that left,

1680
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: like they re signed two of them, Josh Job and

1681
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed, and then they lost Kenneth Walker, Kobe Bryant,

1682
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: boy Mafe Riek Wollen who three of which were near

1683
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 2: the top of the market. In Riquollin had to settle

1684
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: for another deal. And that was all their free agents.

1685
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: There was no usually there's like a list of like

1686
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: seventeen twenty people and like nope. That was basically it

1687
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 2: with just these really good players. And so I give

1688
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: them a little boost because they did a good job

1689
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: re signing a lot of the players that would have

1690
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: been up for free agency previously. And Josh job only

1691
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: gets nine and a half guaranteed. That was not as

1692
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: big a contract as it initially sounded, eight million dollars

1693
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: overall per year, and then Rashid Shaheed I was surprised

1694
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: he did not get more money. He actually got less

1695
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 2: guaranteed money than Dobbs and Wandel Robbinson around the same

1696
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: per year on a three year deal. Those those moves

1697
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: makes sense. It hurts to lose those good players, but

1698
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: kind of just kicking kicking the canter this year and

1699
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 2: County on development and saving some money, I think for

1700
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba and Devin Wetherspoon, who are both

1701
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 2: up for big contracts.

1702
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that you can't retain everyone. It's just

1703
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: that simple. When the bad teams are going to overpay

1704
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: the champion to try and get the champion plays in

1705
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: the building. You just got and I liked what it

1706
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: felt like prioritizing she Heed over Kenneth Walker. I thought

1707
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: that was significantly the better short term a medium term play,

1708
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: and it could have been pretty easy to be somewhat sentimental.

1709
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: I just bet on one over the other and lets

1710
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: she he'd go to the market and maybe make even

1711
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: more money. Just out there in the open as a freight.

1712
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: Andy he did. That was what surprised me. He got

1713
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 2: out there, and then they ended up having the best

1714
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 2: best offer for him, I assume unless he gave them

1715
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: a discount.

1716
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: But would you agree that they bet on Hihead over Walker.

1717
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: They were just comfortable. I think that's just the, no doubt,

1718
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: the better path. And so to get Joe back at

1719
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: a cost effect that's usually the kind of play who

1720
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: does get overpaid to go away because he was on

1721
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: the championship team and he's like better than the league average,

1722
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: and thefoy gets a significant pay boost. So I just

1723
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: thought all around it was as good as they could

1724
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: do with the constraints there working in which is trying

1725
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: to keep this call together. And they won the thing early.

1726
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: They were early in the timeline of winning it, which

1727
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: is why they're not having to suffer with fifteen sixteen

1728
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 1: guys leaving.

1729
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 2: And they are gonna load up. I haven't checked on

1730
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: the compis. I mean it's gonna they're gonna have a

1731
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: dluge of compicts because it's it's about performance, but it's

1732
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: mostly about playing time and the amount of the contract

1733
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 2: that you signed elsewhere. So especially boy Mafe, Kobe Bryant,

1734
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: and even Kenneth Walker, you know, signed top of the

1735
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 2: market towards their position and so they'll get some compics.

1736
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: And they did sign Emmanuel Wilson who won't affect their

1737
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: COMPIC formula because he was non tendered by the packers.

1738
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: So that is the one outside guy. If I was

1739
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson, who had a nice playoff moment there, I

1740
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: would feel special as the only player that the Super

1741
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: Bowl champions have brought into the building. They believe in him, and.

1742
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: I do feel like I know a grading weather right now.

1743
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: But they are in line to be a place where

1744
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: they can hoover up the ring chasing guys later in

1745
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: the cycle, where it's like the one year deals, people

1746
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: will take the DeMarcus Lawrence path, some of these kind

1747
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: of aging passworkers who are like, I'm going to go

1748
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: sign a one year deal with someone. I do think

1749
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: they're in line to go and pick those plays up.

1750
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: All right, give me your grade last one of the day.

1751
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: Uh B.

1752
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: Plus, I guess I really loved that they kept Shaheed

1753
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: in the building and just that's about as well as

1754
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: they could have done. They had plays they did not

1755
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: probably want to say goodbye to you, but you can't

1756
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: keep everyone in house.

1757
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: I'd love to find out how far they went on

1758
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, who I think they just decided that's going

1759
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: to be too expensive for what we do and we

1760
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: have some possible replacements, even though he was great for us,

1761
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 2: I believe, and I think there was some reporting that

1762
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: they were in on Mafe like they would have happily

1763
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: I think accepted him back if the price didn't get

1764
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: quite as high like they did with Shaheed. But you

1765
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 2: had to say goodbye to to some guys. I'm gonna, yeah,

1766
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: give a little bit of great inflation because of the

1767
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 2: overall picture of what they've done has been really smart.

1768
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: Because they're defending champs, I'll give them an eighty nine

1769
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: as well. If it was an if it was another team,

1770
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: the Jets, well you can't even compare like some other

1771
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: team had this exact offseason, wouldn't they wouldn't be the

1772
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: Seahawks because they wouldn't have the roster that just won

1773
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: the freaking Super Bowl. Great job today, Ali, you know

1774
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: you doubleheader this week. A lot of Ali in the feed.

1775
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: I love it. With the Jalen Wattle breaking news and

1776
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: now the NFC grades, and I think next time we'll

1777
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 2: talk NFL Draft with you. And I'm working on I

1778
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: haven't told you this, I might as well just tell

1779
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 2: you on air a forties in free Agents episode if

1780
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 2: you're down with you and Daniel Jeremiah and I'm just

1781
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 2: gonna like throw red meat into the dream, into the

1782
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: middle of the ring and you fight. Will you do

1783
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: that for me?

1784
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: Fight DJ? I'm not sure if I would fight DJ.

1785
01:22:56,160 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: An intellectual sparring I'm interested in, but a fight. Let's see.

1786
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: Let's see he has some I just want to listen

1787
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: to that conversation. So it's just selfish.

1788
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: There are some takes I am ready to pick up

1789
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: with mister Jeremiah that he has.

1790
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. Let's hit that music and let's

1791
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: say goodbye. This is going to be an annual event,

1792
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: these free agency grades. So Eric and we apologize Dad

1793
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: for going so long. Not our last show of the week,

1794
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 2: though we will be back in the studio myself, Jordan

1795
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Rodrieg and Patrick Claybahd can't wait for that one until then. Yes,

1796
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: the regular season, I think when this show is over,