1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Vote counting is still going on, which is its own absurdity. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: As we sit here nearly a week after mid term 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: voting officially took place, we can tell you that the 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Senate is going to be in Democrat control. We can 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: also tell you that the House is almost certainly, almost 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: certainly going to be in Republican control with a three 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: four five seat margin ish. As all of these things 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: continue to work themselves out, and today is going to 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: be the beginning, I would say, of an overall analysis 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: of what happened. Where were the successes? Where were the failures? 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: We're going to open up phone lines. I was talking 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: to Buck off the air before we started today. I 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: come from the world of sports, and when there is 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: a big game on Monday, you typically open up the 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: phone lines after that big game and say, okay, react 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: and it can be man, our team played the best 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: game ever, or we played the worst game ever. You 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: gotta fire everybody, you gotta There's all sorts of reactions. 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: So eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: We only have one guest today. We will try to 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: work in a lot of your calls. We want intelligent, 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: reason passionate arguments about what you have seen and what 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: your analysis is for the election. I have spent way 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: too much time nerding out on the data, and I 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: know Buck has two and so I'm getting your text 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: messages at midnight, like, look at this breakdown by demographic 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: in Nevada. Anyway, keep going. I've got a bunch that. 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: So I kind of starred four things that I wanted 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: to slam home here from a day to perspective, and 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: we can discuss some of these in greater detail. But 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: I think there are several things that we need to discuss. First, 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: Republicans are going to win the overall nationwide vote by 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: millions of votes. Okay, So I think a lot of 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: people are missing this. When people say, oh, there wasn't 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: a red wave, there wasn't a red tsunami, that's not 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,279 Speaker 1: necessarily accurate. The problem is it was not evenly distributed 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: across the nation, and there are many reasons for that. 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: The one that I would say I believe is going 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: to become more and more readily apparent in elections going forward. 43 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: Is COVID created a great national resorting. Many people finally 44 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: said I can't stay in this blue city or this 45 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: blue state, and you relocated, and that makes the blue 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: states oftentimes bluer. It makes the Red states redder. That 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: would explain how Ronda Santis wins by twenty But let 48 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: me tell you this, buck, because you're a New Yorker. 49 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: In the Wall Street Journal this morning, they pointed out 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: that Kathy hokel one reelection in New York by around 51 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six thousand votes. They also pointed 52 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: out five hundred and fifty six thousand people left to 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: New York in the past couple of years. Many of 54 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: those voters I would submit are likely to have been 55 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: read voters who, instead of casting their ballots in New 56 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: York might well have been voting in Texas or Tennessee 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: or certainly Florida, where massive numbers of red state denizens 58 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: have relocated. The other couple of things that I thought 59 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: were significant independence broke for the Democrats. This is in 60 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal editorial this morning. Also, I've been 61 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: this is one of the things that I was sharing 62 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: with Buck over the weekend. Independence typically do not break 63 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: for the part in power. It wasn't a big break, 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: but it was around fifty one forty nine. That means 65 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: that Democrats for people who were deciding at the last moment, 66 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: for people who were not fundamentally committed to one party 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: or the other. And I've got some of the data 68 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: that will break down. It was even more significant in 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: many of the toss up states. And finally, Buck last 70 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: little bit here that I wanted to hit. All of 71 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: the election deniers effectively lost. Everybody who was focused on 72 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty they lost their elections. There you go. That's 73 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: my big takeaways. So a few things. I mean the 74 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: fact that Republicans won the country in this mid term. Now, 75 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: there is no such thing as the popular vote. Democrats 76 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: always say this when they lose, because they often do 77 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: better in presidential elections in the popular vote. That's not 78 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: the contest we're running, right. It doesn't matter who's up 79 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: in the second quarter of a football game. It matters 80 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: who's up at the end of the fourth quarter of 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: the football game. And so you know, your play the 82 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: game with the rules as they exist. But it is 83 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: noteworthy that Republican enthusiasm nation wide was pretty tremendous, but 84 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: we didn't win where we had to win, how we 85 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: had to win. Now, this is where we got. We 86 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: gotta get into some honest talk within the family, within 87 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: the team here. Okay, we gotta just look at the reality. 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: Clay brought up. People that made the twenty twenty election 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: a centerpiece of this campaign. Put aside whatever you think 90 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: about the twenty twenty election, whatever you think happened, put 91 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: that aside for just this conversation. It was very unhelpful 92 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two election. That is now beyond dispute. 93 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: That is not something that anybody who looks at the data, 94 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: the numbers and how this went down would argue with. 95 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: So we should going forward understand that focusing on the 96 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: previous election in this case, and I think in our 97 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: case in general, would be to our detriment. Beyond that, 98 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of this, and look I've made 99 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I've made some jokes about it too, and I want 100 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: to be very clear. I think that when it comes 101 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: to election cheating as a general rule, Democrats do it 102 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: a whole lot more than any Republicans do anywhere. That's 103 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: just that's my sense of it. That's how I feel. 104 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I'd look at history books to make that case. Okay, fine, 105 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: the reality of these these title elections. Clay Laxalt lost 106 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: over the weekend in Nevada, which was a heartbreaker. Blake 107 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Masters lost in Arizona for the weekend. This is why 108 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: we do not have Senate control. Will probably be okay 109 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: in the House, but we obviously should have had Senate control. 110 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: The reality of some of these in some of these 111 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: states is, while people are saying, oh, you know, the 112 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: late counting, the late counting, it's cheating, if you actually 113 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: look at what's going on, They've set up the rules 114 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: so of course there will be late counting. Now is 115 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: there are there shenanigans happening in the late counting tbd, 116 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: But they knew they were going to be votes counted late. 117 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: They have set up the election specifically so that that 118 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: would happen, right, So when people are I'm saying, these 119 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: people are tweeting out, oh well, this one was stolen, 120 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: just like the last one. The better framework for thinking 121 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: about why Democrats win in the same states they won 122 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty is the system is rigged, and to 123 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: your point, about COVID, Clay and the movements that happened 124 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: COVID of population movements. COVID was also the excuse used 125 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: to change the way elections are done in some of 126 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: these states. And now they have universal registration in some 127 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: states that means everybody gets a ballot sent to them, 128 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: and so Democrats spend a month saying, hey, hey, send 129 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: in your ballot as soon as you can, as soon 130 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: as you can, a lot of money. Republicans saying we 131 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: vote on election day. It was stolen narrative in this 132 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: election I'm talking about now in twenty twenty two, will 133 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: distract us from the central challenge of what has to 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: be done differently so we actually get the result we 135 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: want in twenty twenty four. If we find red hair 136 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: into cheating, absolutely that should be something that we focus 137 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: on a whole lot more. But in the meantime, if 138 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: we don't fix it from being rigged Clay, this will 139 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: play out again in twenty twenty four. Everybody that I 140 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: know who runs campaigns, and I've spoke to a bunch 141 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: of them of the weekend, I've been texting them, speaking them, 142 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: they all say the same thing. We didn't change what 143 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: had to be changed from twenty twenty A lot of 144 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: the same stuff I was told, Buck, And one of 145 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: the most intriguing conversations I had was with an elected 146 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: official who said Democrats are far better now at micro 147 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: targeting voters that are low propensity than we are, by 148 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: which they mean, hey, you usually don't vote, but we 149 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: know you care a great deal about abortion. We're gonna 150 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: get you to fill out a ballot that has been 151 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: sent to your house by micro targeting you only on 152 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: the issue of abortion. And you might not be willing, 153 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: and I think this is important. You might not be 154 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: willing to go stand in line for forty minutes or 155 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: actually go to a polling place, but you will if 156 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: you are sitting in your apartment or your home. You 157 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: will take four minutes to fill out a ballot if 158 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: you believe that there are existential issues at stake that 159 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: you care about a great deal, and you don't pay attention. 160 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Low propensity single issue voters are being targeted far better 161 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: by Democrats than by Republicans. I'll also point this Outbuck, 162 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time thinking about why did 163 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: independent voters, that is, people who are perquatable break forward Democrats? 164 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: Why did which nobody really anticipated in the data didn't 165 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: reflect that they would. I don't think Republicans gave a 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: good argument on the economy of how they could make 167 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: things better. We know it's bad, right. I think a 168 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: lot of voters out there looked at inflation, and they 169 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: looked at the price of gas, and they looked at 170 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: whatever they're having to pay in their day to day life, 171 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: and they said, Okay, this sucks, but why do I 172 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: believe that Republicans will make it better? And I think 173 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: we failed on that arguments. It's even a little worse 174 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: than that in some respects because there were a lot 175 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: of people in the exit polling for whom and this 176 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,239 Speaker 1: is what threw I think a lot of the expectations 177 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: offer this a lot everybody agreed universally the economy was 178 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: the biggest issue. It's the biggest issue, but too independent 179 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: swing voters and also college educated white voters. College educated 180 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: white voters as a demographic were a huge shortcoming of 181 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: a lot of these key huge problem in Arizona, huge 182 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: problem in Pennsylvania, huge problem in Georgia. And you can 183 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: tell because in places like Georgia, those voters went along 184 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: with Kemp. They didn't vote in the same numbers for 185 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: herschel Walker. Those voters went along. I mean, doctor Oz, 186 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: I think got two hundred and fifty thousand votes more 187 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: than Mastriano did. So the ticket splitting phenomenon in general 188 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: was very real, a lot bigger than people had anticipated. 189 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: This was not and those white college educated voters as 190 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: a demographic, as a voting piece, were a big part 191 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: of that. And I think that you have to look 192 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: at it. Oh sorry, in the exit polling, they didn't 193 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: blame Biden necessarily for the economy, So the economy being 194 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: the biggest issue doesn't necessarily mean that, oh, it's a 195 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: weak economy, so Democrats are going to get crushed. This 196 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: was a complicating factor. And I said it a few 197 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: times and people get mad at me. But I will 198 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: always tell right, Clay, We will will always tell the 199 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: audience the truth, even when some people are going to 200 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: get mad at me. Donald Trump agreed to not just 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: the initial shutdown, but to trillions of dollars of COVID 202 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: emergency spending. Now Joe Biden, in a fit of lunacy, 203 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: in my mind, did an additional two trillion when the 204 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: pandemic was effectively you know, something we all should have 205 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: known was over So that was egregious, but there was true. 206 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: There were trillions of dollars spent on Donald Trump's watch 207 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: in office, So I think that that that muddied the 208 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: issue a little bit. And then on abortion, because people 209 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: keep trying to oh, by the the the gen Z bulge, 210 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: that gen Z you know what was there. There's a 211 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: term they've been using for it, like them not a 212 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: way but something else. But young kids, they're saying voted 213 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: at a higher rate. Not actually true, It's not true. 214 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: So this was one of these memes that got out there. 215 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you know the anti gun activist hog 216 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, gen Z delivered this total totally nonsense. 217 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: The data does not support that at all. In fact, 218 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: younger people voted more Republican over all this time, but 219 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: on the abortion issue. And this is where you're noticing 220 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of layers here. There's a lot of 221 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: different pieces to this election, and there's there's a lot 222 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: of disappointment, but there's also, you know, some good stuff 223 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: that happened here. We don't talk about Florida that much, 224 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: but obviously Florida was an enormous victory. Lap for the GOP. 225 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: But Clay, you know, they say, oh, well, abortion cost 226 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: people with independence. Depends depends on what the candidates said. 227 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: To your point, the candidates who said, look, you know 228 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna have thing obviously didn't cost you know, Ron 229 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: de Santis and they've got a I think it's a 230 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: fourteen week ban in Florida didn't cost the governor of Texas, 231 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott, who won by over ten points, didn't cost 232 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: Mike Dewy in Tennessee won by exactly. So in some 233 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: places the abortion issue was a total non issue. It 234 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: depends on where and what the candidates said. So the 235 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: slogans that around a lot of this stuff need unpacking, 236 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: which is what we're doing here. And we also want 237 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: to open up phone lines again, allow you to react 238 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: its reaction Monday. We pretty much know the full scope 239 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: of what took place on Tuesday. We want to allow 240 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: you to react. We want you to be smart, intelligent, passionate, 241 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: bring arguments to us and to obviously the millions of 242 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: people who are out there listening to all of us today. 243 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you. We're trying to give you 244 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: actual hard data, not just random ideas, and so far, 245 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of data points. Another good one, 246 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: Buck is that Hispanic, Black and Asian voters continued to 247 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: move towards Republicans as we expected. Again, we're going to 248 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: be Hispanic is going to be a majority GOP party. 249 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I think by the next I think the next election 250 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: or two, it's doable. I think I think that's very accurate. 251 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and more in the meantime. I 252 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: got a great offer for you. 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And I 279 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: think it's important that everyone sees that. Whatever you think 280 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: about how it went and the messaging went in some 281 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: of these different states, the GOP does need a new 282 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: tactical playbook for how to operate in some of these places, 283 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: and that means new leadership play which brings me to 284 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: merch McConnell, who is going to have Senate leadership Senate 285 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: leadership election looks like they're going to rush it through 286 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: before we even know the outcome. Look Herschel's, it's every 287 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Senate seat is important. It's especially important when you think 288 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: about the context of Democrats having to play major defense 289 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: in the next cycle. They've got a lot of very 290 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: tough seats they're going to try to defend, so we 291 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: obviously want Herschel to win. Mitch McConnell wants to rush 292 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: this through. I still sit here. I have not seen, 293 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: even from the swampiest GOP establishment folks out there, I 294 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: have not seen one credible reasonable defense of what Mitch 295 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: McConnell decided to do with GOP Senate funds in this 296 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: last election with regard to Alaska and Arizona, among other places. 297 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: I think Alaska in particular is indefensible, and I think 298 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: it's a reason enough personally to replace Mitch McConnell because 299 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: spending almost ten million dollars to put your preferred person 300 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: in Alaska if Republican among Republicans, and I think Alaskans 301 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: who are listening to us right now, this ranked choice 302 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: voting scheme that you guys ended up supporting, it's anti democratic. 303 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Just pass it in Nevada too. Somewhere Beca's going. I 304 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: think I'm concerned that it's going to be put forward 305 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: in Nevada. I saw that headline. I'm not sure when 306 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: exactly it would be implemented or not, but yes, it's wrong. Look, 307 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: it's costing Republicans a House seat because right now, the 308 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: expectation is the Democrat is going to win even though 309 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: sixty percent of voters are voting for a Republican in 310 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: that House seat for Alaska, and it's going to cost 311 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: Republicans and actual Republican it appears may well be the case. 312 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: Kelly Shabaka is gonna lose to Lisa Murkowski. 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All you have to do grab your 330 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: cell phones now dial pound two fifty say Clay and Buck. 331 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: Fifty percent off your first month again dal pound two 332 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: five zero say Clay and Buck to make the switch 333 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: to Pure Talk today. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck 334 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: Sexton show. We ran through a lot of the data 335 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: and analytics on the vote so far for you to 336 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: open the program. Will continue to discuss much of that 337 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: as we progress. But I've been saying it. I told Buck, 338 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: like I come out of the world of sports, and 339 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: when you have a big game, you open up the 340 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: phone lines and let people react. What did they see? 341 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: What do they think going forward? What is the reaction? 342 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: We're going to do that reaction Monday. A lot of 343 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: you being able to weigh in. Let's go up to Pennsylvania, 344 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: Crystal in Pennsylvania. What you got for us? Hi? How 345 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: are you great. I heard Suderman talk the other day, 346 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: and I just heard the clip of Shapiro talking on 347 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: CNN trying to convince people that they got the red 348 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: the red vote, like they're turning the red areas blue, 349 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: and it's just not true. I didn't get a chance 350 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: to look at Shapiro's overall how it broke down with 351 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: the counties and everything that I did look at Suderman's 352 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: the other day after I heard him talking about it, 353 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: and unless I counted really poorly, I counted thirteen out 354 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: of sixty seven counties in Pennsylvania went blue. So he 355 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, they're out there throwing the story around and 356 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: that they turned the red blue. And you know, we're 357 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be this puzzle state, and if you look 358 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: at Pennsylvania in the voting map, this is a wedge. 359 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: Except thank you, thank you, Yeah, Philadelphia, thank you for 360 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: the call, Crystal. Look, the big story out of Pennsylvania 361 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: is they could basically elect a dead man in John Federick, 362 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: and they did actual dead man. They did elected actual 363 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: dead man. Yes, but Mastriano was a disaster, okay. And 364 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: the lesson that I would tell people in Pennsylvania and 365 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: also Purple States is over. I understand people being furious 366 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty. Elections are forward looking. Everyone who focused 367 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: on twenty twenty got beaten pretty much across the board 368 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: in any kind of toss up state. Can I just 369 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: say Kerry Lake, who we've had had it on many times, 370 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: a very compelling candidate in a lot of ways. If 371 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: she ends up losing, and we hope she pulls it out, 372 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: and I think she will, although you know what our 373 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: predictions about these things worth these days, Let's be honest, 374 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: if she pulls it out or if she doesn't. The 375 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: reason this was as close as it is is because 376 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: of a lot of talk about twenty twenty. And you 377 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: can say that that's what's needed, and it's the Republican 378 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: stake and all this stuff. Well, if you want to 379 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: win elections, you gotta get independent swing voters in Arizona 380 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: to think that you don't you're not so obsessed with 381 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty that it's going to be a problem in 382 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And that was this is just this 383 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: is what the numbers are showing. Everybody. You know, now 384 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: we're analyzing data before we were extrapolating the future from perception, 385 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: which is a very different thing. Now it's who did 386 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: people vote for and why do they say they voted 387 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: for them? It's a lot, it's a much more precise, 388 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: not still not not you know, exact, there's a lot 389 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: of factors that we get that, but we have hard 390 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: to work with now, not projections about the future. And 391 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: you make a good point. People have to decide do 392 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: you want to feel pride in believing that you're right 393 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: or do you want to win? Those are not always 394 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the same thing, right, because you can be furious about 395 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and you can run around and you can 396 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. And I would also 397 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: add with Mastriano, he said he didn't support any exemptions 398 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: for abortion. That works in Alabama, that can work in 399 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: my home state of Tennessee, I don't think it's gonna 400 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: work in Michigan or Pennsylvania or anywhere else. So candidates 401 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: and the stances that they take matter. I mean, that's 402 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: what elections are. And Mastriano got destroyed. Now, he might 403 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: have been pure in the sense of he told you 404 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: exactly what he believed, but if only forty two percent 405 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: of people believe what you believe, you're gonna get wrecked. 406 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: And that's what happened in Pennsylvania, and you have to 407 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: wise up to it, right. And Mastriano was a drag 408 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: We had him on the show. I wish he had won, 409 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: but he was a drag on doctor and did not help. 410 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: I think Baldock is, you know, a great American and 411 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate what he's done for the country with his service. 412 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: And he's, you know, legendary in military circles according to 413 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: people I've spoken to who know him from his time there. 414 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: But he got crushed in New Hampshire. Yes, why did 415 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: he get crushed in New him by a week? Candidates 416 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: like a really likable because New Hampshire Republican voters, I'm 417 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: sorry New Hampshire swing voters and some Republican voters or 418 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: and something to likely voters. They just feel like it's 419 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: a little too crazy with the twenty twenty stuff. And 420 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: this is people can get mad about this, feel free. 421 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: You could always vent at us, you know where this 422 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: is like all within the family. People can get frustrated 423 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: about the situation, say, oh, that's not true. We're just 424 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: relaying now what people who voted in these places said, 425 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: and what the what the data actually shows because I mean, 426 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: when you have tickets splitting, for example, that means somebody 427 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: who's in there, they're like, I'm gonna vote for this 428 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: guy who's a Republican, not gonna vote for that guy 429 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: who's a Republican. There's a reason for that. And butt 430 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: the other bit of data here is Democrats were far 431 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: more reliable to their candidates. Democrats didn't ticket split as 432 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: much as Republicans did, and in the most competitive districts 433 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: out there. I sent you this over the weekend. I'm 434 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: sitting around looking at the data, crunching the numbers at 435 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: six am or two in the morning. Stuff. It's crazy, 436 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: but I look at this, um, look at this stuff. 437 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: When you look at some of these states and the 438 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: degree to which people abandoned uh, just based on whether 439 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: they were committed or not, it's scary. It's scary how 440 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: many Republicans were willing to split tickets. I mean, look, 441 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: herschel Walker is in a runoff because tons of people 442 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: split tickets. Right, Bryan Kemp won by eight points. We 443 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: could have had a Republican who was much more within 444 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: the Kemp machine, if you will, who would have won easily. 445 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm just got Herschel seems like a great guy, and 446 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, I hope he wins. But wasn't the right 447 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: candidate to run in Georgia in this election based on 448 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: the fact that it's even in a runoff and how 449 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: many more votes went to what did Kemplin by eight points? Yes, 450 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: and let me just give you this book. We were 451 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: talking about the economy. Voters who said the economy is 452 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: not very good. In Pennsylvania, they voted plus thirty five 453 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: for Democrats. This is voters who are saying the economy 454 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: is not very good. New Hampshire they went went plus 455 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: thirty one to Democrats. North Carolina plus twenty four, Georgia 456 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: plus eleven, Wisconsin plus eighteen. This is crazy, Arizona plus 457 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: forty seven. People recognize the economy was awful and they 458 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: didn't pick the Republican candidate. Why is that? I mean, 459 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: this is something that I think everybody out there needs 460 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: to contemplate again. In many of these competitive places, what 461 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: did Laxalt end up losing by like five thousand votes? Yeah, 462 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: I will say this too, by the way, and people 463 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: who say, oh, but they I keep seeing this. Oh, 464 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: it took them a few days to cheat with all 465 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: the votes. Okay, if that's gonna be the position of Nevada, 466 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: because I want us to win. I don't want to 467 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: do the thing that gets There's a lot of clickbait 468 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: people on the right that are being very disingenuous right now. 469 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty was one thing. Twenty twenty two, we have 470 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: more data, more knowledge about what's going on right now. 471 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say it. So, they cheated with Laxalt, 472 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: but they didn't cheat with the like the state treasurer, 473 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: and they're these other statewide the governor in Nevada one, 474 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: so the governor wins, the treasurer wins. But they cheated 475 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: in Laxalt's race, but they didn't cheat in the other races. No, 476 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we have to stop doing this thing off 477 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: Oh but they cheated. I know that that can be. 478 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: This is what the Libs do. The Libs did this 479 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: with Russia collusion. They can't handle reality. We lost a 480 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Senate seat in Nevada because we lost it. We have 481 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: to deal with why did we lose it? Telling ourselves 482 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: we actually want it is not helped. I'm not saying 483 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: we do that, but there's a lot of that out there. 484 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people. I mean, it's the 485 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: same thing as being again. I come from the world 486 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: to sports. What did we say for months put it 487 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: outside the margin? We didn't do it right. Herschel Walker 488 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: had a chance to put it outside the margin and win. 489 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp did. Brian Kemp won by eight. Adam Laxolt 490 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: had a chance to put it outside the margin. Nevada 491 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: Republicans couldn't make it happen. Why is that? Go look 492 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: at the data now. One thing is only one incumbent lost, 493 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: basically statewide incumbent. Was that we flipped to the Nevada 494 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: governor's race. Otherwise, virtually every Republican and Democrat on the 495 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: ballot running for statewide office. I'm not talking about congressional seats. 496 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: Even those mostly incumbents won. But by and large, this 497 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: was an election where everybody just said, hey, let's keep 498 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: the same people in power, even though seventy five percent 499 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: of us think things are awful. And one problem that 500 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: we ran into, and I'll just admit it, with a 501 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: bad economy. I think there was an assumption banked into 502 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: this that the party in charge is going to suffer 503 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: because there's a bad economy. That was just the assumption. 504 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: It seemed reasonable to me. I think it seems reasonable anybody. 505 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: But it turned out a lot of people don't view 506 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: it that way. A lot of people say, yeah, it's 507 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: not really his fault. Now, you could say that's the 508 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: media propaganda. You could say they're propping up Biden, that 509 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: he's a marionette, that the puppeteers, you know, ron Klain's. 510 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: You could do all this all day, but at the 511 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: end of the day, one huge missed area here. By 512 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: the way, the crime issue, which we talked about a lot, 513 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: was enormously important. Was I mean, Christine Drainsen almost won 514 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: in Oregon, which is sort of like winning as a 515 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: Republican in North Korea. I mean it's really Elden almost 516 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: did in New York, and he almost did it in 517 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: New York, and Ries Eldon did really well under the 518 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: circumstances of what he faced in New York and deserves 519 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of credit for it. So again, 520 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: this is I know where it's there's a little bit 521 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: of a little bit you know, emotion whip last year, 522 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of wait, hold on, there's this, 523 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: and there's that. Well, yeah, it's a nationwide election. There's 524 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, right and this is 525 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: why we're trying to break it all down based on 526 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: what we've actually seen and so we can do a 527 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: better job or do a better job going forward, because 528 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, one thing we all agree on should have 529 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: been better than this should have been we got to 530 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: win in twenty four And if you get whipped and 531 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: your response is, oh, we actually won, then you don't 532 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: actually go back and put together a game plan that 533 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: allows you to win. We cannot. That is exactly that is. 534 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if anything else, how do we win the 535 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: next one? What do we do wrong in this one? 536 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Show me if there's cheating, show me cheating. But I'm 537 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: not saying there isn't. But we either show the cheating 538 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: or we just focus on the ending of the rigging 539 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: of these elections and going forward and winning the next election, 540 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: because unless everybody just wants to get ready to have 541 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: a president Biden for four more years and a Democrat 542 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: control House and Senate again, because that's what'll happen if 543 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: we seen around and play that we won game. We 544 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: didn't win. We obviously, well we won the House, yeah, 545 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: but we should have won by a lot more, rising inflation, 546 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: a vital stock market, wreaking havoc on retirement accounts. 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Oh yes I do. 568 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: President Biden has been a great president for our country. 569 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: He has accomplished so much ten million jobs, over ten 570 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: million jobs under his leadership, working with the private sector. 571 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: Of course, he has just done so many things that 572 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: are so great. We knew a lot more to show 573 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: to to I gotta say, Clay, now, it is to 574 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: be fair. Nobody expected, and I think that's all seems 575 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: to be said. Democrats were terrified of what this midterm 576 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: election was going to look like, and there was a 577 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: hunter Republican votes out there. So this wasn't like we 578 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: were saying, that's why there's not a lot of haha, 579 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: we told you so, because they were having crying pity 580 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: parties days before the election even happened. But with this 581 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: election outcome, holding the Senate and a super narrow house 582 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: majority for Republicans, I just don't even see how it's 583 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: feasible for Biden to give up the incumbency you would 584 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: have you and then I guess, I guess the argument 585 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: would be, then it's going to be Kamala and I 586 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: will say that even Democrats, no, Kamala not gonna get 587 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: it done in twenty twenty four for voters. Right, So Biden, 588 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: it's like a brand, right, I mean for Biden, Biden 589 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: running for re election. For Democrats, it's like Coca Cola. 590 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: They're just saying, yeah, Biden. The fact that he gets 591 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: confused and practically falls off the stage, and even when 592 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: he was in his prime, he never really had a fastball. 593 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: I just don't say, did you think that's fair enough? 594 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't see short of I mean, God forbid, but 595 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: short of like an actual unforeseen health issue, I don't 596 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: see how he cannot run at this point. That's my 597 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway is I think there were a lot of 598 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: people prepared. And this was my theory. I thought that 599 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: Republicans would take the House comfortably, and I thought Republicans 600 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: would take the Senate and Biden would be the sort 601 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: of guy who was trotted out to take the fall 602 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: that he would be ultimately forced out. Fuck when again, 603 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: the most devastating result to me of the entire twenty 604 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: twenty two race was John Fetterman winning by four points 605 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Because the lesson that Democrats took there again. 606 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: We have to re engineer that John Fetterman vote and 607 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: figure out what they're doing to harvest ballots and get 608 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: big wins in a state like Pennsylvania. Okay, the lesson 609 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: to me there is, if they'll vote for a guy 610 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: who can't speak and truly cannot do the job to 611 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: be the Pennsylvania Senator, why in the world would the 612 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: Biden people not look at those results and say, we're 613 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: gonna win Pennsylvania. Look, Michigan, Buck Michigan, we got our 614 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: asses kicked up and down the ballot. Republicans got wrecked 615 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: in Michigan. They're looking at those results and they're saying, 616 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: we got Pennsylvania, we got Michigan, Arizona. It doesn't look 617 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: like we're gonna break through with any of those candidates. 618 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: I still hope Carrie Lake's gonna win, but she hasn't 619 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: broken through yet, and they're looking and saying we're gonna 620 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: win Arizona. Maybe in Georgia they're nervous because of what 621 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp did. But in these toss up states, there 622 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: isn't a lot of reason if you're a Joe Biden 623 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: person to think that you're not going to be able 624 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: to drag him weekend in Bernie's two style across the 625 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: finish line. And if I'm sitting there, if I'm gonna 626 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: be in the you know, White House Rasputin role here, right, 627 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: the guy whispering things into Biden's ears. Apparently actually Rasputin 628 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: gets a tough he gets a bad rat for it. Hey, 629 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: we can talk about that another time. But if I'm 630 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna be in the Resputen role here, if I'm gonna 631 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: be the guy whispering in Biden's ear, I think it's 632 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: very clear that the move is for them to have 633 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: Biden run again. Keep everything where it is. He's the president, 634 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: everything's fine, incumbent, see all that stuff, and then you 635 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: have him stepped down, maybe even before them in terms, 636 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: and then it's and then you say, oh, but it'll 637 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: be president Kamala. But yeah, but at that point they'll 638 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: already have secured you know, it'll be president. Get to 639 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: run as an incumbent, then even better for twenty twenty eight, correct, right, 640 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: because then she has the presidential powers. And to the 641 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: extent she's an awful candidate. Maybe if you're a Democrat 642 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: and you're thinking ahead, maybe you'd think if she does 643 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: just not an awful job as president. She strengthened in 644 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, having her run again after being president 645 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Let's just say, is a 646 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: whole different ball game than she's just up now. Now 647 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: it's Biden's done, She's the one, you know, she's the 648 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: one who's going to be, you know, taking over in 649 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: a general election center. I just don't I don't see that. 650 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. But look, future is very 651 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: hard to predict. Clay, I want to can I take 652 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: us into a direction that I don't think was anticipate. 653 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: We don't have our guests in the next second, dude, 654 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: we have him a third thirty because we're gonna talk 655 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: about Ukraine and the Russian pullback from Croisans. It's a 656 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: big deal militarily, but not not right away. I want 657 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: to tell everybody about what could be one of the 658 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: biggest bankruptcies of all time, looking at possibly fifty billion 659 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: dollars in liability from this FTX crypto exchange. Now know 660 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: a lot of you aren't into cryptocurrency, some of you are. 661 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: This guy also was the second biggest individual donor two 662 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: Democrats in this last election cycle, and when you hear 663 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: what a mess this thing is, could be a harbinger 664 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: or rough things ahead for the economy, certainly for the 665 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: crypto markets. And he's a big Democrat. We'll talk about it.